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  • over sized engines suck.. thats why lol 3.0L is more than enough.. german engineering ftw!

  • Ever find out the problem?

  • @Darrfarm I'm a Chevy guy and I don't like Ford your probably the other way around but it all depends on how you treat them theres thousands of videos of Fords in this condition to you know.

  • That logo on the grille is whats wrong with it

  • By then way, my 6.2L diesel Suburban gets 27 MPG highway, and is stone reliable. It was also affordable. Sure I'd have loved to drop a Cummins in there instead, but for my budget, the 6.2L worked. I used to work for a fleet that had GMC trucks with the 6.2L and the engines typically made 300K before they were unloaded, and even then, they ran fine, but the trucks were falling apart around the drivetrain. They are not as tough as a Cummins, but they are still plenty reliable.

  • I am a fan of both GM and Ford. Let me say this: several comments were made about this engine being based on a gas engine. That statement is false. You are mistaking the Detroit Diesel designed 6.2L / 6.5L diesel V8 (the one shown in this video) with the Oldsmobile 5.7L V8 Diesel, which was in fact based on a gasoline engine design. This engine is designed to substitute for a small block, and was designed for 1 ton and under use and maximum fuel economy.

  • timing

    

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  • wow so defensive about gm diesels, well to be honest any diesel based on a gasoline block will be crap, I am by no means persuaded to move my thoughts based on manufacturer, however international and cummins have based their engines on purpose built block, detroit/gm used redily available parts, main seals usually puke at 100,000 max! Their issues are mainly caused by a weak lower end! Internationals are equally cheap to repair and fuel economy is close, but power is superior!

  • timing

    

  • 1982 to 2000... That counts for something. And our transmissions are worth a damn to.

  • cummins swappin time

  • That's baaaddd.

  • sure you havent filled it up with petrol?

  • inj pump? injectors? lift pump? go to dieselplacecom make an account post this vid and ask for help, if i know anything about that place its that they will know whats wrong

  • FUBAR

  • 6.5 is a piece of shit. Likely IP is junk or out of time, and more than 1 bad injector. Cliff it.

  • @JBURNJROLL1 any engine is a peice of shit if you dont take care of it or know how to preform maintenece i guess a engine that on average gets over 350k miles is just a peice huh.....

  • Thats normal for a 6.5L..lol

  • @speedy02 lol

  • @speedy02 you mean one that dies at 450k miles and needs an overhaul? yea thats the typical 6.5 then....

  • @MrExtremepaintballr 450K miles... Minus 400k, and that's the average life of a 6.5 diesel. I owned a truck with a 6.5.... Keyword owned. Total pos.

  • @fordguy1991 Perhaps it was your poor knowledge of the engine? Perhaps it was your lack of proper maintenence? Sir I have met very few people that their 6.5 has not lasted 300k miles and ive met many more that have gone over 400k miles, with proper care these engines dont fail.

  • @MrExtremepaintballr Poor knowledge of the motor? I work for a Chevy dealership, bro. If these motors are so great, tell me why there are so many like this one of broken 6.5s all over youtube? I literally don't have enough room in this comment box to list all the stuff that broke on my truck and on the motor, and I don't want to argue, so here's whats what. 6.5s are, in most all cases, crap. If you're looking for a motor that'll last, get a 5.9 Cummins 12v or a 7.3 Powerstroke.

  • @fordguy1991 I shall not comment about how dealership people often cant fix a damn thing, but I will state they only see the problem vehicles.

  • @MrExtremepaintballr Yes we see lots of problem vehicles. Aka 6.5 diesels.

  • @fordguy1991 I wish you were correct.

  • @fordguy1991 If there were any prize for arguing with someone who truly believes incorrect opinions I would win that prize for this argument.

  • @MrExtremepaintballr They're not opinions, just facts. Lets just end this, yes? To each their own!

  • @fordguy1991 lol even with all the short commings on the 6L it's still better than the duramax. 7.3 = BEST engine

  • @batchnerd Hell yea man, Ford all the way! 7.3s are the best. Can't wait til I can afford one...

  • @fordguy1991  ur fukkin gay stfu

  • @jeffsalome Okay mr. jeffsalome, look who's talkin. You must be one of them Chevy lovin' queers. Dousche.

  • @fordguy1991 Your comment is crap and if you really work for a GM dealership:get the hell out of there!Go to your Ford shit and cuss all the time when you have to work on those pieces of crap...as far as the 6.5 goes:it´s the best compromise in reliability,fuel mileage (Fords 7.3 gets none) and repair cost and yes,they do last for several hundred thousand miles

  • @00G000 Calm down, turbo. Not going to argue with you, we all have our opinions, and I have mine from owning a 6.5 junker first hand, just stating the facts from what I've seen. If you like Chevy, fine. I'll stick to Ford. Case closed.

  • @fordguy1991 I don´t have a problem to calm down and I definitely won´t tell you what to drive but don´t bad mouth the Chevy Diesel the way you did!

  • Don't crank so much

  • sounds like the damn fuel pump is turned up all the way

  • hahahaahha headlight fluid muffler bearings

  • Did you do a powerstroke swap? Cause this is what they sound like directly from ford.

  • @JusNov16 Yep! Best diesels are Cummins and Duramax!

  • Bent rod?

  • If it doesn't have bearing/crank problems, I'd say definitely injector issues....

  • Have you seen any niggers around your truck? A nigger can fuck up anything... even a diesel engine!

  • broken rings and injectors overfueling

  • and if you woulda just maintained it properly none of that would have happened my dads buddy has one with over 400K miles and it still pulls his 4 horse trailer loaded around no problem

  • lol love the comments above,good stuff.Could be a host of things my friend and sounds like your ring gear is fryed from turning it over so much. Id start with checking your OPS and LP,they rake havok in these old bombs.If your ops is out it will cause the lp not to work and starve the IP for fuel,injectors are fryed on it too looks like,possibly the IP .I own a 93 and a 94 and its a full time job keeping these pieces of shit running but i love it,lol.

  • I did replace one 6.5 because the the turbocharger was messed with,was a Jasper reman that was put in.Nothing but a horrible PITA to and I will not do another one.Most places hauling trailers for a living won't use Fords with the Powerstroke,Mostly leased Dodge and Chevy/GMC duallys with the duramax and cummins engines

  • Just like the 6.0 powerstroke,the 6.5 blows up with no warning at all.

  • @wafrederick Unlike the 6.5 as only the early 6.0 PSD blew up, the later versions ran fine. GM fixed the problems with the 6.5 by replacing that engine with a 6.6 diesel engine and called it the duramax

  • @wafrederick Unlike the 6.5 as only the early 6.0 PSD blew up, the later versions ran fine. GM fixed the problems with the 6.5 by replacing that engine with a 6.6 diesel engine and called it the duramax possibly to get customers who left GM to come back and buy their diesel product again. But i don't know, just a theory. JK

    The 6.5 diesel can't take a lot of abuse though unlike the cummins and powerstrokes

  • @wafrederick Unlike the 6.5 as only the early 6.0 PSD blew up, the later versions ran fine. GM fixed the problems with the 6.5 by replacing that engine with a 6.6 diesel engine and called it the duramax possibly to get customers who left GM to come back and buy their diesel product again. But i don't know, just a theory. JK

    The 6.5 diesel can't take a lot of abuse though unlike the cummins and powerstrokes

  • bad carburetor pulley

  • @BetoG34 it dont have a carburetor pully.

  • @TheDillonwadej head light fluid?

  • i would say injection timeing. ive been workin on a 6.2 detriot in my tech class that was locked up for 6 years. but thats another story we thought of the timeing being off because of the way it started funny and ideled rough. but its alright now in this case i think it would be the injection timing. but i wouldnt say that 100% im jus a ford guy myself an the only reason they got me on the engine at school was because it was the only diesel we got in the shop till we got a cummins donated to us

  • plugged cat?

  • This is the poster child for the 6.5 gm diesel. I don't know why the engine even exists anywhere anymore. I'm not being prejudice as i'm for all makes, but it just goes to show why gm should never design their own diesels. And no it ISN'T a detroit diesel, just manufactured in their plant by GM specs. The worse part is that they are used in military hummers, our troops need a more reliable engine than that.... But it's cheap to use.

  • Broken crankshaft.  100% Guaranteed!

  • If its not the PMD then its prolly gonna need a harmonic balancer, crank, pistons, cam, or just a new engine :P

  • my hummer h1s old engine sounded just like that had to remove it at install a new one that engine in that car is dying

  • did you break EVERYTHING or just half of everything in that engine?

  • injector pump driver module, garunteed...

  • hornet spray in the engine that'l do it ;)

  • no your all wrong. its definitely the torque-abreviator-sphincter-re­mover

  • soryy the 6.5 just isnt that great of a power plant

  • typical 6.5 they throw temper tantrums

  • You forgot , Check the canewton valve

  • in technical terms its fucked

  • sounds fine to me... stop worrying

  • low on blinker fluid and maybe the muffler bearing is spun.

    If all that is ok....check the flux capacitor

  • REALLY BAD INJECTOR TIMING!

  • sounds like it needs a rebuild especaily with the blowby

  • I think the POS light should be on by now.

  • mine broke the crank into between #3rod and #2 main and was still runnin took the crank out in 2 pcs and timing chain cover two and had 1 hell of a time getting it started when i got it back together. crazy shit

  • I think a gernade would solve all your problems, I personally got a rebuilt 6.5 from NAPA and it is a strong motor.

  • ok i have the same truck but what it sounds like is bad fuel or a bad piston its maybe a piston cause look how it smokes its burning oil

  • That lump is FINISHED.

  • Well is there any oil in the engine , are you shore if something mechanical is broke, a pistol of a valve ??

  • um.... you got a problem

  • holy shit!

  • thats what my 350 sounded like after it snapped the number one and two rods, until they got jammed between the crank counter weights and the block, they got flattened into less than a quarter of an inch

  • ouch shut the damn thing off its fucked up. shes bangin like a 2 cent whore

  • im willing to bet money that it has a broken valve spring

  • Sounds like a normal 6.5 to me...

  • @mtrbikin

    well then it would appear you dont know what a normal 6.5 sounds like

  • this engine is done. might want to shut the engine off. It will start shoting parts out and lock sooner then later.

  • man thats some nasty smoke and blow-by. sorry to say this dude. but that engine is trashed.

  • deff a rod let loose......you hear er slappin around.....

  • skip in the engine. lack of lubrication

  • broken crank, usually break between cylinder 1 and 5 (front) taken out alot of em thats why i'm die hard 7.3 powerstroke

  • you need a new PMD or worse a new injection pump

    good luck

  • I hope your joking.

  • Sounds like your most likely causing a shit ton of damage by running it still just tear the fucking thing apart

  • check the headlight fluid

    then check the muffler bearings

    make sure the 710 cap is tight

    could possibly be a broken pisten return spring

    all else fails try a new flux capictor

  • ROFLMAO

  • @matj1990 or the spark plugs..

  • @xXFmxKingXx

    diesels dont have spark plugs they run on compression

  • @XXXcrazygirlzluhvXXX you cant see sarcasticness can youu

  • @matj1990 just last week i ran outta headlight fluid in my 4 cylinder turbo v-8 and it caused all sorts of problems

  • @matj1990 LMFAO!!!!!! i seriously think im gonna cry lol!!!!

  • @matj1990 are you a kwik fit fitter

  • @matj1990 some asian lady actually came up to me and told me her 710 cap was missing...

  • @matj1990 Mmhm, headlight fluid's probably where it is.

  • @matj1990 u went to wyotech didnt u

  • @matj1990 u went to wyotech didnt u

  • SLACK TIMING CHAIN HITTING COVER AND MESSING WITH CAM TIMING I BET

  • did u check the fly wheel bolts or the pressure plate and clutch assebly? or if its an auto how bout the torqconverter bolts and the flex plate bolts?

  • you might need to figure out if thats an injector problem or not, id start there, then a fuel filter, probably got water in it too, thats just a shakin clankin diesel engine thats missing

  • Ai... sounds bad, check timing... and those rubbers to hold that thing in place DAMN... and are you sure theres some oil in there...

  • THINK ITS COME UNGLUED

  • I don't know why you have all these guy's crying about it being a 6.5? That engine is a champion of design. With GM's only major change being the stroke and turbo for almost 20 years.

    Try saying that about Ford (not that I have anything against the F-series)

    I had an 85 4x4 6.2 suburban and the thing was a tried and true truck with 20+ MPG. Sure it was no street rod but off road the thing could put an FX4 or Z71 to shame!

  • its your muffler bearings

  • lmao thats a good one havent herd that one in a long time im going to have to start useing that one again

  • Well in the first place, it is a 6.5 so you're doomed to be hit by shrapnel if go over 2000 RPMS.

    Secondly, the engines were made out of recycled chew can lids. So that can be a problem.

    Lastly, the best thing you could do is shoot at it numerous times with a large caliber gun but the bullets are worth more than the motor so I dunno if it's worth it.

  • @gunther482 Dude ur badass

  • that must be why the military still puts them in hummers... and why its notorious for having an indestructible block.

  • piss poor timing

  • Your fine it's just the diesel knock lol

  • you got bad fuel timing buddy lol

  • service is needed

  • best thing u prolly could do is take it to the shop

  • i think he needs headlight fluid, seriously! I've heard it makes a WORLD of difference. Engine sounds fine to me!

    HAHAHAHA

  • How the engine working today?

    What did you do?

  • sounds like a bad rod knock

  • o fuck ;p

  • looks like you have a leaky injector or the pump is doing something funkey or the bottom end is just toast run a compression test

    i had an old 6.2 put over 100k on it i know it had over 200k before i got it. i over heated it several times and it ran like a champ.. for some reason old ford diesels (that i've seen cloud never make it 250k (any thing from cracked blocks to thrown roads to cracked heads

  • Sounds fine to me

  • Sounds alright for a 6.5

  • Did you get that truck going?

  • The engine just wants to hop out and go for a walk. You restrictive bastard. No wonder your engine hates you.

  • hahahhahahaahha !!!!!

  • yeah its fucked... mine had a run away on me i had to kill by putting the tran in od and steping on the brake...it need heads now...

  • drive it...shes purring like a kitten lol

  • @kalen01 HAHA!!!!!!!!

  • my dear god, that diesel is shot. thanks for the vid though

  • Those GM 6.2 and 6.5 liters are not very good in terms of quality.

  • the only major problem with them is the injector pump driver. They tend to over heat because they are placed in a high heat area. Otherwise, I've heard that these motors are better than the Duramaxes.

  • whoa really? I heard the D-maxes are pretty good. The 6.2 and 6.5 liters are also very low on power pro. They can't tow for shit.

  • they really don't have much power. But with the right gears, they can haul.

    As for the D-max, it seems like from what I've seen, they have a lot of minor problems.  Eventually it becomes a big pain in the ass.

  • GM should have used Detroit 453's in their pickups instead of the the 6.2 and 6.5 liters. I'm sorry but the fiasco with the 6.2,6.5, and olds diesels turned alot of people in this country against diesel. As for the D-max, screw it, I'll get a cummins or a 7.3 liter 'stroke when the time comes.

  • If you must get a ford, I'd wait for their new scorpion diesel that THEY built and skip the powercroak. If you go cummins, 12 valve. We have one at school. Rebuilt by tons of inexperienced students, missing all kinds of parts, smokes like hell, smells like shit, runs like new. The best running motor in that class, aside from the Yanmar maybe.

  • The new Ford diesel doesn't have a rep yet. And Navistar has tons of experience building diesel engines unlike Ford. somehow I doubt this new Ford diesel engine is going to be good. What is this Yanmar u speak of? I'm not familiar with it.

  • I thought I'd commented back on this... Must've gotten distracted. Anyway, Ford has been sourcing their motors from international for quite a while now, so I don't think they built this one alone, or at least without tearing into one of the powerstrokes and figuring out every little thing about it. And they've been the only one of the big three that hasn't tanked thus far, so I don't see any reason not to stand behind it, even though I'm a Chevy guy, and thats borderline blasphemous...

  • As for your inquiry, Yanmar is a manufacturer of diesel motors, which are used in a wide variety of applications, from alternatives to B&S generator motors, to offshore powerboat racing motors. They are a reputable brand in the Marine industry, as well as the construction industry. I plan to use their 6hp L70 to power my go kart, seeing as it has the same torque output as a 9 hp gas motor, and can turn the same RPM's (3600) as a standard go kart motor, but has a much longer run time.

  • That's a good point but we don't know that for sure. I wouldn't by a new diesel blue oval pickup until the new engine has a reputation. If it gets a good rep then I'd consider buying one. It's not like the cummins engines which have been around for forever and have a great reputation.

  • Any kind of reputation is gonna start with the first people who line up to buy one.

  • and I wouldn't want to be one of those people.

  • I'd be fighting my way up to be first in line.  It'd be like getting that brand new Tonka truck all over again. Indestructible little bastards...

  • woow sounds a like a broken rod ! no??

  • Check for marbles in the oil.

  • mine did that but not that bad, it was the stupid vacuum pump for the waste gate. thought i was going to die standing in front of the motor when it was making that noise!

  • dodge.........................­........

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  • Gm....

  • totally fucked the cylinders are fucked

  • No problem. Just low on wiper fluid.

  • I had a used mid-80's 6.5 diesel from a friend who had taken it out of his Suburban, because the crank journals were destroyed because they were too thin. It ran for 4 minutes after 3 hours of working with the bad TBI setup, than the old fart gave up!

  • I worked on various diesels in the army, including a precious few that were turbocharged. If I were to guess at the problem I would say that the turbo has tied up, because they are quite delicate, or that the injection pump is either bad or out of timing.

  • are you kidding? i dont work on diesels really, never have. but that sounds like a rod knock or something like that, it sounds serious.

  • If it was a bad rod it should have just died. The high compression is very unforgiving. Might be a valve but my gut says otherwise.

  • turbo tied up????? WTF does that mean?

  • The turbocharger bearing has failed. When this happens it is called tying up or seizing.

  • but the exhaust still flows.we have trucks in our shop that have dropped bearings and they run fine till you get a load.

  • larger diesels they will run with a failed turbo except for 2 strokes. In smaller engines like the 6.5 a failed turbocharger will cause excessive intake restriction and cause the engine to be starved for air just like you stuffed a rag into the intake. It might also be an injection pump as well, either out of timing or worn.

  • hmmmmmm our one detroit ran for 3 months with a dropped impeller.ran fine untill it blew oil out the stack.

  • A 2 stroke or 4 stroke?