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  • nicely done

  • As far as i know, you can play rimshots on any roland kit, but what about sidesticks ?

  • great ,great great great :))

  • i wish i could have that drum hey guys by the way check out my channel

  • do you need an external amp to get the sound for the video or can you record it straight to the computer and the only thing you hear outside headphones is the tapping of the sticks? ..hope that made sense lol

  • Anybody who slags off a TD20KX firstly is an ignoramous, secondly can't afford one.

    It IS the ultimate kit bar none. The difference is the same as an acoustic guitar and a top quality electric guitar. The flexibility alone wipes out all arguments. I have had world class players on mine determined not to like it and they go way changed men....

  • @Parstudios - Thanks man. I obviously agree. I continue to look at other products, other videos, etc and I'm still not that convinced with most of them. If you haven't already - please check out the NEWER video of the Big/Vintage kits with the new TDW-20 update card in the brain.

  • The 2box Drumit 5 beats the shit out of TD-20. Roland doesn´t even have alternating samples!!! Check this out to see what I mean....watch?v=YpjZWujoTDY

  • why waste money on a td20 just get a trigger to midi converter with no sounds and use software drum sounds... they are far superior in sound quality and realism than any hardware drum sound source, and for a fraction of the cost. BFD is my favorite by far.

  • Sound in roland modules is horrible even with vexpressions. Sound very synthetic

  • is the drum module easy to use or hard to use?

    plz answer

  • how can u have more than 2 extra pads?

    i can only have 2..

  • Nice video and good samples. That ludwig bass drum annoys the hell out of me though, dull futt futt futt sound.

  • how can u plug in that many extra drums when theres only space for 12 .. in it.. 2 aux ( extra..)

  • OK as a long time drummer with a number of kits id like to say 1 the playing was cool. do your stuff ignore the negative people 2 i still love my pearl custom masters but my td20w well what can i say if i want to practice at 3 am nps if i want to record at almost any level you cant beat it ( the 12 doesnt have enough outputs ) live and low volume its amazing you cant beat the crap out of it and it dont die and now even live with my accoustic kit triggering the kick and toms rock

  • i would have love to get the td-20 but the price

  • you shit.

  • I want one! =D

  • geez that kit is too expensive for that skill level

  • we use this model in our band, its a dream when it comes to live performances. way easier to mix in the PA system

  • I disagree with the the person that says this sounds very 'electronic'. Some of the kits are made to sound that way, but those that are made to sound like real drums...sound like real drums. The most important thing is your amplification when it comes to sounding realistic. People often spend thousands on these kits and buy a rat-ass amp for it because they went broke buying the kit...

    Good job, by the way!

  • @dltodd1966 the only reason this kit sounds good is because the audio is recorded directly into a computer or a mixer. the video is then synced. if u recorded the live audio of an electronic drumkit with a camera it would sound quite awful

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  • sound are not realistic.

    very electronic.

  • i would just get a roland td12kv the kits are near identical

  • jellyboy - not "near identical" at all. there are a lot of things under the hood, but a few obvious ones right on the surface such as the number of individual outputs, which is important for good seperation when recording or for a live show where the FOH guy has a lot of space on the mixer. Also, the expansion card only works on a TD20. check my "tdw20 big/vintage" video for examples.

  • @slavelle85 ive had electric kits. They suck compared to a rearlly good acoustic kit.

  • me jealous...

  • nice one bro.

  • the bas really need to be sorted out on the rolands

  • dude your a badass, can you really beat the shit outta those mesh heads? im definitely getting one of those no challenge, i have to, im just not too sure about the mesh heads...ive played em in guitar center and they feel like if someone played em like an acoustic set they would break in 2 seconds.

  • They are really durable! I am a heavy hitter, and so far, they've been able to take my beating. And i've had my TD-9 for half a year now

  • Nah they're strong as hell

  • @TTLBkodyshred believe me those mesh heads can take beating... shit i think they can take even more beating than acoustics. no lies

  • lookin to upgrade my kit,prolly gonna bite the money bullet and get the td-20..go big or go home right? :D..what's the going rate for one of these at the moment?

  • As someone who likes metal it would be nice if some of these kits come with actual known drummers kits preset in them, say such as joey jords kit..dont flame im just sayin be nice to dial up some known drummers kits so ya could jam and then adjust the sounds from there until you get your own sound happening..

  • the black album from metallica would be a sexy tone to have

  • Looks like he's having a lot of fun!!!! I see tons of people playing the v drums on here but I never see anyone use all of the extra sounds that the machine has! Show us what it can do...that thing is just like a keyboard!!!!

  • KEEP YOUR PINKIES IN!!!!............ lol im sure this isnt a problem anymore, but it looks so amateurish to have that..... blah, what ever all in all good playing and i wish i had to cash to upgrade my roland kit....

  • what snare did you use on the TD20.nice sound

  • what i would do to get one of those!

  • Dude, your drumming is awesome! And yeah, you sound very seasoned and well rounded. I loved it!!

    I'm sure Paintball is ready to take on Dave Weckl! ha ha ha I have an acoustic and electric kit. Love 'em both. Electrics are great for low volume gigs.

  • Thanks man, I appreciate it. did you take a look at my other video? The Big/Vintage kits from the TDW20...it's about 3 years newer with the new expansion card.

  • Sorry dude, haven't been on tube in a while. I listened to your newer video. Got to say, in all honesty, I loved that one too. You really are fantastic. Loved the timing and feel, you sound great! Keep it going and please keep posting. I will surely keep checking in.

  • lol. dont worry about what other people say. surely drummers hold sticks in different ways? i dont think it would improve your playing if you were to do it anyway. your great anyway, great vid :D

  • Thank you. I'm not worried by them, as I'm confident in where I am and I know my strengths and weaknesses. But I appreciate you coming to bat! :)

  • dude, don't let your wrists hit your legs, correct that in your playing

    and if you've been playing for 25 years i would have expected a hell of a lot more even in just a 'basic practiced vid'

  • Gee. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Post up your drumming videos and show us how it's done. I'm not here for some competition or to say I'm a great drummer. I said 25 years to show that if I were going to have wrist probs from holding my sticks a certain way it would have been by now.

  • sure okay but i dont have a video camera damn, sorry but thats the way it is, you should develop better sticking if your such a 'veteran'

    although maybe its not your fault, some people drive cars for 40+ years and still suck at it

    :)

  • k. Whatever.

    Just to let others here know: I am a musician, not a showboating drummer. If you need a tight part recorded on a tune with a groove from someone able to play with a click track, who understands recording and musicianship, I'm your guy.

    If you want the fastest, glory-showing, proper stick holding, rudiment monster, I'm not.

  • its funny how ppl on youtube need to tell you what ur doing wrong all the time tbh :P

    good drumming m8, keep it up :P

  • well you are oficialy a drumming noob if u think that

  • He doesn't have to follow your style, every drummer has there own style and way of playing, i am similar to him, I am putting vids up on my other account, but paintball where are your videos? he is an amazing drummer, you are just some kid who gets to play on a friends set once a month.

  • 5*!!!

  • the kit is awesome, but it's also sooo fuckin' expensive.....

  • ahh i know its like 6,000 dollars you could get a good DW set with cymbals for hella cheaper.

  • Yeah - and you can try to haul that around to gigs (and mess up the finish) and you could TRY to get a good sound out of it with other equipment (which will add a LOT to the total purchase price - compressor/eq/reverb/preamps/m­ics), assume that all venues will allow for the volume of an acoustic kit, etc. Not to mention the stuff you need to record it (knowledge, the above equipment, good room). I play A drums as well. There's a reason for everything.

  • dont bring an electric set to a gig...... please

  • "just" 6,000 dollars? in europe, or at least here in germany, it costs 6,000 euros, which is about 8,500 - 9,000 dollars Oo. but....everything is more expensive here, even our german cars. a BMW that costs like 40,000 dollars in the usa, costs about 40,000 to 45,000 euros (ca. 60,000 dollars) here -.- even though we fuckin' build them here...just nuts!

  • wow that is nuts lol

  • there's a reason for it, i've read an article about that once, but obviously i didn't read it properly, cause i forgot, why it is like that :D

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  • Dude, to love an inanimate object as much as your kids is just sad.

  • Dude, learn how to hold your sticks better. Keep ALL fingers on them, and don't let your wrist(s) bow down as much, keep them mostly parallel to your radial axis of your arm.

    Other than that, good playing :]

  • dude,that's his style. every drummer has its own grip

  • I do believe it's bad for your wrists to bend them like that.

  • No lessons to speak of. I've been playing about 25 years. No wrist issues. I play pretty relaxed. You'll likely do more wrist damage with your mouse and keyboard than playing like this. Just saying.

  • And - my playing probably has a lot more to answer to than the way I hold my sticks! Rudiments, speed, practice time, etc. None of these are my strong suits, but I "play well with others" and I don't think "I'm the best". FWIW

  • Great man :]

    Do try and work on your rudiments, timing, independence, speed, endurance, and comfort of playing, too!

  • Cool man :]

    It looks really awkward the way your holding your sticks, but then again you maybe hold them that way more than other drummers (for a longer period of time), as in perhaps MANY other drummers hold them that way too, or similar to, but simply not as long or to the degree that you do.

    Either way, glad it's working out :]

  • y pretty nice but... yeah but XD

  • nice work ! Keep it up ! :-)

  • 4 words.... fail xD

  • :-) - I'm guessing that means "not good". Oh well - can't please everyone!

    I'll put the quality of my playing up against your ability to write a useful comment any time, however! :-)

  • Do you mean 4 letters? If anyones a fail its you.

  • wtf u meen letters and he is so good ur juss def cleen ur ears out

  • I have a TD-10 Pro kit and play live with it - Sound guys are skeptical at first - then I pull out my 8-channel snake and give them a kit that is all separated - kick, snare, hat, toms 1-2, toms 3-4, and cymbals, then ride - no effects, that way the house guy can tune it to his speaker setup as all are different. no mics to dick with and you get all the "punch" you can handle.

  • Well...I suppose we all have our opinions. I'm sure many touring professionals would love to step in and correct you on this, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

  • Not for small venues. V-drums let you get a full sound at a lower volume

  • Not if you throw it through a proper digital mixer. Spend the money.

  • drums are not digital

    A cheap 100 pound drum kit set up right would blow this over priced shit out of the water they just rich boys toys and DO NOT SOUND ANYTHING LIKE THE VIBRATION OF A REAL DRUM.

  • I guess you only play small venues? On a bigger stage the acoustic drums don't sound unless they are miked. Thats where V-drums take over.

  • after I played some cheap e-drums, I fully understood why rolands are so expensive. they definetly wouldnt outplay a real set, but they do sound amazing on record... they do have like 10 total sets that you can put from the samples, and have an almost life like sound to it... but yeah, acoustic drums dominate... Always

  • the snare sounds fucking amazing

  • hy nice video check out my td 20 sound :D

    give you 5 *

  • No delays in the hits. They are faster than youll ever be. Roland has set this up very well, but for the cost it better be. The best sounding kits aren't provided by Roland. You can purchase amazing sounding kits (DW, Yamaha, Tama, Sonor, Pearl and others from all years (CHEAP) from the Vdrum forum to be downloaded and pulled into the TD20 head. I assume that's why this title show's "Master Picks". The kits are amazing and you'll never go back to the factory kits that ship with the Vdrums.

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  • Is there ever any delay in sound? for example i hit a drum and it responds back like a second later?

  • I'm sure there is some amount of measurable latency, bu I don't feel it. It's certainly no worse than the amount of time it takes to get the sound of you hitting a bassdrum to yor ears a few feet away! Not like VST drums feel, IOW. It's not soft or wierd - it's effectively instantanious.

  • Gotta admit the td 20 is a beast, i had a go at music live at the NEC in Birmingham UK and its immense i played it for an hour straight. But its just way to costly when you coul get a TD3 for quarter the price and still give good feedback.

  • You remember me the old John Bonham school . Well done !

  • on the td 20 how big are the pads because im getting a td 12 soon were the snare is 10 in. and the 3 toms are 8in. but these all look 10in. can you plz confirm?

  • looks like 10" for toms in front and 12" for snare and floor toms...but i can be wrong

  • The snare and two "floor toms" are 12" pads, the two rack toms are 10" pads.  The highest rubber tom is a pd-7 (which I've since replaced with a pdx8 mesh)

  • toms 10 inch, snare 12 inch, i believe

  • I don't know anything about drums but it felt like a Dave Matthews Band feel to me in the beginning. Very cool

  • What a compliment that is! I only wish I could do 1/10 of what he does, but Thank you! :)

  • It's so amazing how technology has evolved from the first drum set. 5/5 and you have my subscription.

  • Does Td20 have Choking options?

  • Yes - all of the cymbals (and the rubber pads) are chokable. I choked a crash in this video somewhere...

  • 1:20 :)

  • I love, now where i can i get it for..... uhhhh.... free?!

    hahaha

  • damm man good stuff keep it up

  • perfect drum set

  • the Roland TD-20K or S is the best basic electric drumset EVER. nuff said. I might buy an acoustic cowbell onto it lol

  • you're really good! nice drum set too

  • How much is this drum set ???

  • About 6.500€ new...

  • I myself am a bfd2 user,I dont know why people say the roland sounds suck...These drums here sound great.

  • He is using VEX kits that are put on a SD card and loaded onto the TD-20 module. So basically these are not the default Roland kit sounds....which is the point of the video.

  • u r wrong ! the sounds are the own roland sounds. BUT a few guys which know a lot about sounds and tuning etc. Made kits which are hard to make.

  • No im not...look at the title of the video lol. V Expression Master picks is a VEX kit which are sounds that were professionally recorded in a studio. They are NOT the default sounds from the Roland TD-20 module. They have to be loaded via SD card on the TD-20 or a Midi cable if you have a TD-12 or lower.

  • ok :O

    ty for info

  • No problem. Hope i didnt come off as sounding rude. The VEX kits are amazing to say the least. :D

  • but em...1 question

    what is a SD card?

    and to load it via midi ... you need a TMC-6 of sumthin first ?

  • A SD card is a memory card. You can google it. Mostly used in phones and digital cameras etc. Only the TD-20 has a SD card slot on the module. For the TD-12 and other modules you have to connect a midi cable from the module to your PC to load VEX kits onto your module. Most people use a midi to USB cable to do this. Im not sure what a TMC-6 is however.

  • ur as clear as crystal xD

    lol

    nice

    i thought u could save the Vex stuff on a usb ,,,, but appearantly im wrong :p

  • for ALL - the td-20 actually uses Compact Flash, not SD, but effectively the same thing. The VEX kits are NOT new samples that load into the brain - they are the settings for the kits to use the built-in samples that are already there. The fact that people think they sound so good is a testament to the fact that the Roland brains CAN sound good if programmed and played right.

  • Thanks for the correction on compact flash cards instead of SD. I could of sworn the sounds were 3rd party recordings in studios but perhaps you are correct. If so Roland needs to hire new people for the programming of sounds on their modules.

  • wow thats awsome! the great thing about V-Drums or any e-drums is you don't need to buy 5-6 mics to mic up the drums :-D

  • you can play em all night too..ideal practice and real sound

  • Hi there,

    Some questions for you mate.

    What camera (specific model & year) do you use? and what jack do you use on the camera to plug the td20? reason is that I'm getting several answers here from the camera shop guys and I am trying to plug my td12 directly to a camera to get the best possible sound Thank you

  • According to guitar center this drum set would cost about $5,859.99.

  • good  snare

  • Then it costs WAY more then just getting the E-Drums, Not logical. -.-

  • how much is this drumset?

  • but real drums don't have a volume knob or headphone jack so that you don't wake up a newborn while you practice

  • is that really how much you pay for a drum set

  • boooo

  • very sloppy

  • they sound nice

  • damn pretty nice

  • people says if you have electroinc drums you are not getting better are that right``???

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  • that are wrong``...

  • its just like getting a modelling guitar amp instead of a valve one.well,depending on the E-drums,they mayt\ not ha ve the same feeling and response like a real drumset,but you can buy one with real drumcovers,and its the same thing,you won't really make the difference untill you become really good and if you NEED to have a real drumset then...but for now and the following few years,it's no difference.YES you will get better:P

  • Not really... with a guitar AMP the feel of your guitar doesn't change... just the sound... with electric drums compared to acoustic, they FEEL different.

  • i said that "hey may not have the same feeling and response like a real drumset,but you can buy one with real drumcovers".the feeling is given by the response in the stick,which is the same cause' you've got drumcovers not a rubber pad

  • Yeah i don't care about that i care about you comparing different guitar amps to an electric and acoustic drumset which is a horrible comparison.

  • it is a comparison looking at the capacity of the drummer to see the differences,and the need of an acoustic set,which is not imperative for a begiiner(just like a valve amp is not imperative for a beggine guitarist).

  • You're all just stupid, E drums can be real!!!!

  • llamedica None of the Yamaha stuff works with Roland stuff sad to say :(.

  • yamaha pads will work with a roland module, and roland cymbal and drum pads will work with yamaha modules., but roland V-DRUM MESH HEAD pads wont work with anything else other than roland.

  • Check RHYTHMTANDEM.

  • awesome

  • How are you recording that ??

  • yikes, little messy starting at 1:52,

    but overall SWEET!

  • The ludwig bass drum may not sound great but man its accurate! That's exactly how the old lugwig bass drums sound.

  • wow! Those drums sound so bad ass man! Your playing is really sweet too! Man, those drum sounds are fantastic! Are all your aux cymbals Roland? I have some Yamaha DTX pads that I would like to use with that TD-20 when I buy it. Would that work?

  • that ludwig bass drums doesn't sound that great. but your drumming is fuckin redic kid.(thats a good thing)

  • also... how quiet are these things, cuz my neighbors are getting sick of hearing drums at midnight.... so i need them to be pretty darn quiet

  • i'm not gonna get pissed at you and call you a retard, but in case you haven't noticed, they are electric. thus meaning that you can change the amp volume or use headphones

  • i meant if they were next to a window, and my neighbors were out side would they hear anything... dipshit

  • no, they wouldn't hear anything if you were using headphones

  • I dont know, I think he meant how loud would it be if he was hitting on them, accoustically. Not the sound from the speakers.

  • And HE meant that your neighbors could hear something, or perhaps they couldn't...depending on the volume YOU can set. It's miraculous really.

  • if you dont mind me asking... what are vexpression master picks?

  • Nice groove -> 1:06. This sounds so unreal nice that i'm peeing myself atm

  • wow Awsome man! :) keep it up!

  • i got my real nascar drums

  • Not to be a complete prick but I just got my kit for 4000 CAD with stands and kick I thought it was a killer deal... look around.

  • how much room does this kit take up?? im thinking of getting one

  • i would take my bed out of my room for one of those

  • About 2x2 meters

  • How much did you pay for your Vexpressions?

  • they usually cost like $50

  • Have you tried hooking this up with BFD ?

  • exactly what snare did you use on the td 20?? love the sound

  • Ive thinking about buying a electronic drumset, but i cant afford a TD 20, so i wanna know ig i can get a real drum sound out a cheaper one like a td 7 can I??

  • if you buy the td20 module that is $1200 and you use it on the td 7 you will have the same sounds of the td 20

  • Where can U find it for $1200 ??