Maybe the question to ask Hamilton or whomever is trying to defend the official story should be , why in the 9/11 report ,section 1.3 under the subheading Flight 93 and the shootdown order did you allow contradictory evidence? In fact please explain why contradictory evidence was chosen over Mineta's testimony and other corroborating evidence that Cheney allowed orders on an incoming aircraft towards the Pentagon prior to the Pentagon being hit.
Regardless of whether the orders were to shoot or to stand pat, neither fit the official version. The military, Arnold and others testified under oath that they only received the shoot down order AFTER all 4 planes have already crashed. So, that's after 10:03. Also, the official story has Cheney in the PEOC at 9:58, meaning he purportedly never heard or communicated with a young man at 9:20 like Minetta testified to. Obviously, the official story is corrupted.
Wow, great phone call! This clip ends with Hamilton saying, "Cheney was in the key position at the time." Oh really? Why did the final commission report on page 40 state that at 9:37 Cheney just entered the underground tunnel to the PEOC? In fact read page 40 & 41 a little further and you'll see that Cheney doesn't enter the PEOC until 9:58. So, how could Cheney be in the key position when the official report doesn't even have him in the PEOC yet?
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
I was the one that spoke with Hamilton on that call into C-SPAN and I really wanted to ask Hamilton how come they didn't interview the white house aide that was speaking to Cheney and who was the aid giving the orders to from Cheney?
Exactly! An action order i.e. "Shoot it down" would not require the subject to return to keep confirming the order, he would be busy carrying out that order, however a non-action order i.e. "Stand down" would leave the subject in a position where he would continually ask if the order still stands.
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
I find it shocking that CSPAN is so compromised that they would prostitute them selves when our country is in extreme jepardy. I no longer have any respect for them. These people have no shame and would eat their own children to preserve their cushy little lives. GOD DAMN THEM!
Hamilton leaves an opening for the possibility that they got it wrong. He says, "we on the 911 Commission took our best crack at it. We were ordered by statute to tell the story of 911. Put aside the recommendations, we did the very best we could, on that. BUT it's a dynamic situation, Information continually comes up and there is a lot of suspicion on what we found and what we didn't find."
Notice that he didn't discount or ridicule those who think there is a conspiracy.
He leaves a crack in the door with these statements..."We on the 911 Commission took our best crack at it"......."We were ordered by statute to tell the STORY of 911. We did the very best we could on that"...break......"But its a dynamic situation, information continually comes up."
Isn't he indirectly stating that there is a possibility that they may have gotten it wrong?
The aircraft (if it was an airliner) would have to have been carrying a millitary transponder in order to disable the ground based missile defence system that protects the Pentagon. Unless of course, the alarm had been raised and orders had been put into place to suppress the automated system.
This is of course, entirely based upon conjecture, but it fits with the events described.
As for Minneta to refer to the disparities and questions still being raised as mere stories, don't be fooled.
Hamilton is one of the key neocons. He appointed Zelikow, and was the only 'Democrat' to take Bush/Cheney's 'testimony' Brian leher is doing everything he can to get off the question. They start talking about why people are concerned about 9/11. What?? Has he drunk the koolaid?
However, he did say that "the Vice President was in the operation room" [...] "when the impact did occur (at the Pentagon)" [..] "Cheney was in the key position at the time".
Maybe the question to ask Hamilton or whomever is trying to defend the official story should be , why in the 9/11 report ,section 1.3 under the subheading Flight 93 and the shootdown order did you allow contradictory evidence? In fact please explain why contradictory evidence was chosen over Mineta's testimony and other corroborating evidence that Cheney allowed orders on an incoming aircraft towards the Pentagon prior to the Pentagon being hit.
I'm waiting for an answer....
charlesfloyb 2 years ago 8
Regardless of whether the orders were to shoot or to stand pat, neither fit the official version. The military, Arnold and others testified under oath that they only received the shoot down order AFTER all 4 planes have already crashed. So, that's after 10:03. Also, the official story has Cheney in the PEOC at 9:58, meaning he purportedly never heard or communicated with a young man at 9:20 like Minetta testified to. Obviously, the official story is corrupted.
charlesfloyb 3 years ago 8
Wow, great phone call! This clip ends with Hamilton saying, "Cheney was in the key position at the time." Oh really? Why did the final commission report on page 40 state that at 9:37 Cheney just entered the underground tunnel to the PEOC? In fact read page 40 & 41 a little further and you'll see that Cheney doesn't enter the PEOC until 9:58. So, how could Cheney be in the key position when the official report doesn't even have him in the PEOC yet?
charlesfloyb 3 years ago 6
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
whole27 3 years ago 3
Good point, where is the young man? He knows the orders. However I'm sure he would not be allowed to talk. Cheney knows where his family is.
chowbelly 3 years ago 2
I was the one that spoke with Hamilton on that call into C-SPAN and I really wanted to ask Hamilton how come they didn't interview the white house aide that was speaking to Cheney and who was the aid giving the orders to from Cheney?
claybone23 3 years ago 2
What was the order that Cheney gave and what happened to the order? Order was not carried out unless the order was to LET IT HAPPEN.
claybone23 3 years ago
Exactly! An action order i.e. "Shoot it down" would not require the subject to return to keep confirming the order, he would be busy carrying out that order, however a non-action order i.e. "Stand down" would leave the subject in a position where he would continually ask if the order still stands.
izzysykopth 3 years ago 2
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
whole27 3 years ago
But he's not asking the caller question at all?
Is he one the investigator 0f 911???
If he is it's extremely chocking????
sb1282000 3 years ago
the order was obviously to let it happen why would it be the other way around....mineta was wrong in thinking that it would be orders to shoot it down! It was orders to let it hit the pentagon! Think about it, why would the young man question it if it was to shoot down a unknown plane approaching the pentagon when 2 planes already hit the towers at that point! Again, the orders were to let the plane hit the pentagon. The plane hit the part that was being remodeled ironically:) no one was hurt.
whole27 3 years ago
I find it shocking that CSPAN is so compromised that they would prostitute them selves when our country is in extreme jepardy. I no longer have any respect for them. These people have no shame and would eat their own children to preserve their cushy little lives. GOD DAMN THEM!
ehswan 3 years ago
Hamilton leaves an opening for the possibility that they got it wrong. He says, "we on the 911 Commission took our best crack at it. We were ordered by statute to tell the story of 911. Put aside the recommendations, we did the very best we could, on that. BUT it's a dynamic situation, Information continually comes up and there is a lot of suspicion on what we found and what we didn't find."
Notice that he didn't discount or ridicule those who think there is a conspiracy.
911=insidejob
rotobeam 3 years ago
He leaves a crack in the door with these statements..."We on the 911 Commission took our best crack at it"......."We were ordered by statute to tell the STORY of 911. We did the very best we could on that"...break......"But its a dynamic situation, information continually comes up."
Isn't he indirectly stating that there is a possibility that they may have gotten it wrong?
That is how I am reading it.
rotobeam 3 years ago
The aircraft (if it was an airliner) would have to have been carrying a millitary transponder in order to disable the ground based missile defence system that protects the Pentagon. Unless of course, the alarm had been raised and orders had been put into place to suppress the automated system.
This is of course, entirely based upon conjecture, but it fits with the events described.
As for Minneta to refer to the disparities and questions still being raised as mere stories, don't be fooled.
pondman27 3 years ago
Hamilton is one of the key neocons. He appointed Zelikow, and was the only 'Democrat' to take Bush/Cheney's 'testimony' Brian leher is doing everything he can to get off the question. They start talking about why people are concerned about 9/11. What?? Has he drunk the koolaid?
3456ws 3 years ago
Lee Hamilton did a great job not answering the question.
JATCA69 3 years ago 5
However, he did say that "the Vice President was in the operation room" [...] "when the impact did occur (at the Pentagon)" [..] "Cheney was in the key position at the time".
Gold9472 3 years ago