This is bull, Zeppelin gave Willie Dixon a credit on Zep 1. Zeppelin's music was influenced by artists like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Willie Dixon, and they alluded to their songs self-consciously. You could make an equal claim for those Chicago blues giants ripping off early country blues artists like Charley Patton, Robert Johnson, Son House.
This is complete crap, if you had told me that Zeppelin was ONLY known for songs written by somebody else you would have an argument. Less then 3% of Zeppelin songs have other author claims with only 10% of that 3% being played on the radio when those albums were put out. That means 97% of Zeppelin songs are their brains to your ears. If you think Stairway and Whole Lotta Love sound anything like the songs compared here you have no ability to compare and contrast.
You mean a bunch of English white guys ripped off a bunch of American black guys???? SHOCKING ( think Stones, Animals, early Beatles, whole Brit Invasion)
love howard stern and im a huuuuge zepp fan but zepp didnt rip off dazed and confused....it was the yardbirds (page's old band) and was later done by zeppelin so really zeppelin covered a yardbirds song which was ripped off
there are three kinds of zeppelin fans that will comment on this video:
1.loved the band to death-after watching this video they hate them.
2.led zeppelin fanboys that deny anything that's against zeppelin-after watching this video they still don't care if they ripped off artists and made money for it, even if it's really easy to see they did.
3.Love Zeppelin-after watching this video loss respect for zeppelin , but still listen to zeppelin, because when you like a song nobody can stop you.
@diego59x Yup, you summed it up. The fanboys are particularly annoying if they think not crediting doesn't matter. Im sure if they wrote a song that someone took and presented it as their own and made a lot of money on it, they'd be singing a different tune (no pun intended)
Ichiboy, ClockworkOrange and other Zeppelin defenders are using BS arguments. Either they're getting their facts wrong, or they're trying to justify theft w/o acknowledging the original artists or they're saying, "Well, the Zeppelin version is so much better it somehow doesn't matter." First, that's your opinion, not fact. Second, whether it's better or not doesn't justify what they did.
BTW, I still consider myself a Zeppelin fan, but I also acknowledge FACT.
The Led Zeppelin version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is ridiculously better.. along with about any other song they "covered". It's theirs because they put art into it that the originals could never have even thought to poses.
FUCK THIS VIDEO FOR TRYING TO TAINT MY LOVE OF ZEPPELIN. FUCK YOU IF YOU DISAGREE. FUCK THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
@peregrinwadevathfrak - at least moderate success? By whose standard? I've been listening to the blues since the early '70's and many I'd never heard, including "Nobody's Fault". The numbers I'd heard - mostly Willie Dixon's stuff, we're not moderately popular. I grew up in Chicago and AOR wasn't playing ANY of it. Only blues aficionados were hearing it on vinyl. That's why nobody caught most of it for so long. And what it DID do, and what Stern and these other hacks fail to acknowledge,
"Most had at least moderate successes, for their originators. Those old blues tunes were all covered by most of the 'Trad Jazz' British groups." Where do you think Mayall, Clapton, Korner, or Jones heard these--on American AOR radio? British and European radio--pirate, and otherwise.
I also grew up in Chicago, and listened to stations that mounted lots of jazz, blues, and Western classical radio programmes. I heard 'em all.
In the USA, race records rarely gained any foot-hold in mainstream culture. Across the pond, however, they gained great currency. However, the situations with writing and arranging credits were more fluid, in those days. Still, those Brits who respected the art, first, paid up, and tried to gain exposure for their idols.
You mention that Dixon--and everyone else--got paid. By whom--by Page? This would seem doubtful, what with the credits most often being fudged.
Viva, bramachari. Lets all not like Led Zeppelin coz they nicked a few songs. Did they nick Stairway to Heaven, Battle of Evermore, Misty Mountain.....etc, etc.... No, they just played their own versions of a few tracks, in the early days.
Oh yeh. The Beatles, The Stones, who else...? How about Pink Floyd? Anyone else people want to comment on about "stealing songs and stuff".
Oh, "that's what we do in the UK"!!!
Is that true then! Like you don't steal anything eh?
It's often not the person who comes up with an idea but the one who does the most with it. The orchestration, performance and production of Led Zep's music is impeccable. It's superior to the rough cut gems that inspired it.
It would inexcusable if Jimmy Page stole a completed manuscript of a novel and just put his name on it and sold it. That's not the case. Led Zeppelin is like a tree that survived the dinosaurs.
Picasso said it best: Good artists borrow, great artists steal.
When an artist uses integral elements of another artist's song and "re-imagines" it, then the artist is legally and artistically bound to note it, in the credits. For example, "Dazed and Confused (J. Holmes, arr. Led Zeppelin)."
To do otherwise is dishonest, and cheats other artists of their due--both financially and artistically. Plus, it reduces Led Zeppelin's legacy to that of a group of talented thieves, who stole from those they claimed to respect.
@peregrinusnoctis do you consider Edward Van Halen's guitar piece "Eruption" to be totally original? or Mean Street? Both those song borrow HEAVILY from Edgar Winter's Frankenstein, but I seem to be the only one who hears it. What do you think of that?
I'd never before heard "Mean Streets," so I just had a listen to the studio version and a few live versions. The intro tapping (studio) and the crescendos (live) certainly channel some of the stuff that EW was doing throughout the 1970s. I don't recognise any distinct signature, however. Which is it? The rhythm section on some of the live versions is tight, like EW's.
Saw VH in 1980, but by VH III, I'd heard enough. Great technique, but too much tapping is too much tapping.
VH's "Eruption" is a blessedly brief showcase for EVH's fingers. It's fun, blows through lots of effects and settings, and gets over quickly.
I could always hear a bit of Blackmore in EVH, but that might well just be me. Other than the technical proficiency, and the tendency to sounds as though one's noodling around aimlessly at times, I don't catch much of EW's "Frankstein" in EVH's "Eruption."
@peregrinusnoctis I would have to be with you in person and play the parts for comparison. Mean Streets is a slight reworking of the basic driving riff of Frankenstein. And the first part of the lead break in Mean Streets ("Dance Baby!) is the sax break in Frankenstein.
And Nazereth's "Hair of the Dog" is just The Beatles "Day Tripper" with a harder tone and a slight rhythmic tweak.
And Robert Plants battle cry in The Immigrant Song is from the opening theme from Get Smart.
dobn't forget about the rolling stones and the beatles...there's a whole bunch of homeless, dead and/or drug black musicians who should be millionares. That's what UK musicians do best, from 'rock' to drum n'bass. thank you HOWard!!!!! (again)
It's one thing to steal bits and bobs from others, and sneak a riff into one's own work, as a sly nod--a respectful wink--to those whose work one admires, and to those whose work helped to inspire and form one's own work. It's quite another to appropriate another's work, and attribute it to oneself.
You cannot be any kind of an artist, and believe otherwise.
This shit went on all the time. Blues were traded back and forth along with riffs. None of these songs would've seen the light if day without Zep. Wille Dixon got paid and I'm sure so did the rest. Even Pagey couldn't have predicted the level of their success.
"None of these songs would've seen the light if day without Zep."
Huh? Most had at least moderate successes, for their originators. Those old blues tunes were all covered by most of the "Trad Jazz" British groups. However, most of the bands had the decency to credit the songs' writers, and only claim the arrangements as their own. Page/Plant, apparently, thought enough of the tunes to use them, but not enough of the artists to give them the accepted cut of the royalties.
I`m surprised that so many people dont realize this. Everyone does this, even today, ever hear the word "sampling"? . All rock and roll is copied! Especially from the old delta blues. They have given us their interpretation of these songs. Let me ask you this question, How much say do you think an unknown group get about what`s printed on their first album? who do you think controls that? ----Atlantic records.
@fucker661 No. You know what? I'm not gonna troll. I am going to end all this on here with facts. 1. They started as a cover band. They ended up rock gods.
2. They didn't give due credit. So yes they fucked up.
3. It is not considered Plagiarism in that time period. Back then bands fed off each other. Nowadays that is Plagiarism.
4. They still should have given due credit.
5. Their music is still good. So count out the covers and they still are on top with their unique playing style and sounds
Led Zeppelin was an overrated band for sure. There were lots of bands around at that time that were just as good that never got enough credit. I dont think the problem is Zeppelin having similar songs to the originals the problem is there were way to many. I realize the blues is fairly repetitive however Zeppelin more so than any other band has ripped off and copied way to many of other artists songs. I still like the Zep but overrated they are
All these songs are from their debut album, which was recorded in 36 hrs. Zep had just formed, so they didn't have many original songs nor hardly any time in the studio. These were songs they had been performing live, which included a mix of original songs with reworkings of old blues songs. On "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You", Page thought this was a traditional folk song. Subsequent album rereleases properly credited Bredon. Dixon was properly credited on 2 songs. Everyone needs to seriously relax!
@ClockworkOrangeABC watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL Watch these 3 part videos. They took way too much. About half of their 2nd album. And also some songs off Zeppelin 3 and 4 including their most famous song Stairway To Heaven.
@ClockworkOrangeABC So you're making excuses for theft now? Do you say the same thing when a poor kid in the ghetto had no food, so he just grabbed some oranges from the corner store?
@ClockworkOrangeABC so you think just because you said that it somehow all of a sudden makes it ok? NO - IT DOESN'T and shame on you for thinking that you admitting they stole the songs somehow makes it ok. 36 hours? so what - so you're saying they knew they were making an album - and didn't bother to come up with any of their own songs and decided to rob other people's songs somehow makes it ok? HELLL NO THEY ROBBED THE SONGS!
@ClockworkOrangeABC fucking asshole - telling everyone to relax but it wasn't his livilihood that got stolen. he'd be whining like a little bitch if it happened to him - it's ok wiht himi though - cause its not him. ASSHOLE!
I am really surprised at how many people are saying they don't like Led Zeppelin anymore after watching this. Who cares, so they lifted a few lyrics and that one riff from Dazed and Confused, they still sound 10 times better than the originals, and plus it's not like Led Zeppelin can't right their own songs, Ten Years Gone, The Rain Song, No Quarter, and plenty of other songs disprove that.
@Ichiboy900 Who cares? Like the caller said any mediocre band can take a great idea and put a good spin on it. Why couldn' they just be original? Or at least give credit that they're covering another artist. Look at VH their version of "you really got me now" blows away the kinks (imo) but still they admitted it was a cover and no one would have respected them if all their hits were stolen (which they weren't).
@PabloDPena Most of Led Zeppelin's most well known songs aren't stolen. The songs here are from their 1st album, made up of mostly blues covers redid with a hard rock edge. I could list a dozen more 100% original Led Zeppelin songs, the guys obviously have writing talent. With their 1st album they just had to record quickly and didn't have time for the writing process, it was just Led Zeppelin displaying their own sound.
@Ichiboy900 How would you feel if Soulja Boy lifted a few lyrics and riffs from your beloved rock songs. Would you feel the same way? NO. You're blinded by your bias and love for Led
Even if they stole songs they were still capable of writing amazing songs. look at kashmir that sounds like fucking beethoven wrote it so no i still have full respect for them.
Even if they stole songs they were still capable of writing amazing songs. look at kashmir that sounds like fucking beethoven wrote it so no i still have full respect for them.
@nirvanabeatle1 the riff sounds nothing like anything by Beethoven that I ever heard. Its a great riff, but its rock. I have a feeling you are saying that cause it has an orchestra on it, but that doesn't equal Beethoven.
You know what's funny if you listen to the compositions they are completely different. How hard would it have been to come up with different lyrics.....geez!
@MCRomg What's wrong with that statement? Zeppelin stole songs and credited themselves as the author. If that isn't piggish, then I don't know what is.
Traveling Riverside Blues was originally written by Robert Johnston,and dazed and confused was originally called "I'm Confused".I forget who wrote it,it could have been Willie Dixon,i'm not sure.Also when the levee breaks was originally done by Memphis Minnie.
Bottom line. If you completely steal a song, without giving credit, it is not a tribute. It does not mean a THING if they "made the song 100x better." They didn't MAKE the song, they stole it, shame on them.
you know i really really love howard stern. but this is moronic. its called the FUCKING BLUES. this is such bullshit. granted, they should credit other bands, but for fucks sake, its called a cover. if no one covered anything, theyre wouldnt be music in the first place. fucking moronic
the songs in their original versions just outright sucked and LZ made them 100 times or more better. also the best LZ songs were written by LZ themselves. who wrote Ten Years Gone and Achilles Last Stand? and howard stern has a tiny penis and is a closet homosexual.
OK, maybe many of the songs on led zeppelin one werent originally written by them, but EVERY SINGLE SONG led zeppelin released that was a "rip off" Zep made totally their own and you cant even recognize some of the originals compared to the the ones Zep released. Led Zeppelin is the best rock band of all time even if they did borrow some lyrics
ok lets be honest. im sick of everyone saying led zeppelin stole all their stuff. they did no such thing. What "original" blues song in the history of music is totally 100 percent original. NONE. they all have the same tune, same tempo, same chorus, verse chrous break down, and same repetitive lyrics. Led zeppelin has done nothing but what has been going on for decades. they simply made it their own!!! their OWN. shut up with this plagarism stuff. NO music is 100 percent original!!!
@sperogd There's a clear difference between paying tribute to your influences and simply passing them off as if they were your own. So i guess you wouldnt be the slightest bit peeved if you wrote a song and someone else ripped it off, became a success from it and you never saw a dime?
fu howard stern and those 2 fags that were with him, im sorry led zepplin did steal those songs but lets face it those original artist wouldnt even earn a nickle for the song they all led zepplin did was evolutinized those songs and made it worth hearing. i guarantee that everybody who hates led zepplin right now wouldnt even both listening to the songs they took, and wat does it matter if it sounds listen to it!
I think no one cared and continues not to care because they made songs that kind of sucked some of the best songs ever. No one wants to listen to that lady sing and play "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You", I want to hear Page, Plant, Bonzo and JPJ, waaaaaaaaaaaay better.
So did the beatles, but they credited the writers of Twist and Shout etc. If you improve a "Cover" or spice it up, you still have to credit the original writers.
This is what happens if You don't accept Howard Sterns invitation to be on his show. Everyone except Led Zeppelin has been on his show. Classy Move Howard, it's no wonder your ratings are dying. Note; Robin calling Led Zeppelin Pigs is going too far.
@Ace1Eclipse i hope you know jimmy page and his cock sucking 3 friends still don't give credit to any of these people. "Get The Led Out!" and use your brain that they always stole songs and never gave credit to any of them.
It would make me very proud if it were actually those four (Plant, Page, Bohnam, Jones),that came up with the idea of being the greatest rock and roll act in the history of mankind, and getting a jumpstart on that latdder by paying homage to their own idols, who literally had no names ...OR MONEY!!!!....before Zep
That's much more honorable than some FAT FUCK now who invents a shit group like "New kids on the block", and then ten lears later photocopies it and calls it the "Backstreet Boys"
In June 2010, Jake Holmes sued Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page for copyright infringement, claiming to have written and recorded “Dazed and Confused” two years before it appeared on Led Zeppelin's debut album. In court documents Holmes cited a 1967 copyright registration for “Dazed and Confused” which was renewed in 1995.[5]
5:56 that is in HAMMER OF THE GODS and "Shade and light" the credits read "Traditional arr by J. Page" (on original pressings of the album) , DAZED AND CONFISED WAS CREDITED TO JIMMY PAGE ONLY but also in the book it says that it was stolen from Jake Holmes, Also DAZED AND CONFUSED has a guitar solo segment from an old Yardbirds b-side. (Jake said 'what the hell, let him have it')
@brianpage100 Most people in the know about Zeppelin are fully aware of this, and don't care.. They made these songs sound so much better..does it matter???
Hahahaha what do you expect from a bunch of greasy drug addict Lucifer worshippers? These shit bags have never had an original idea in their lives. Look at their shitbag fanboys comments on this board defending blatant theft of other musicians material.
@mookixox I really don't give two shits. They made great music out of songs that would not have made it big without their revamping. I still love their music, even if it isn't completely theirs
@LZEP332 sorry to burst your bubble but they ripped songs off and claimed they were there own.thats a fuckin low thing to do.if bieber took a hendrix song and it exploded all over the radio and tv would you condone that ?
@louiscfc93 really it would be more like stealing a charlie parker tune with the kind of shit they lifted.. most of it was from dead blues musicians.. soo fucking low not to mention uncreative, lost a lot of respect for them when i found out about their hack song writing
@theredraven Well it is about enjoyment to a degree but when you create a mythology and reputation off of someone elses tracks its a bit of a slap in the face. And when you actively lie that is even worse.
holy shit who's the braud with the annoying voice? she's so fuckin unnecessary I don't even care about zeppelin stealing I just wanna kick her in the face.
led zep was just following the tradition of reworking blues songs. countless artists have done this. sure jimmy didnt write black mountainside, but do you think bert jansch wrote black waterside? ppl just got mad because zep was making shit loads of money
@SuperTrancend oh your right learning to play instruments in the first place even on a basic level is cake if forgot good point. I bet we could both play like Page or sing like Plant with a month of sitting on the internet.
@1010cervantes Quote..."Plant and Page got more pussy than you ever will." Gee, that'll get them on the stairway to Heaven. Fact remains the same...Zeppelin's been sued (& lost) more times than you THOUGHT of getting laid.
@DenimZero Go fuck myself? Thats actually your moms job. Their music sounds the same? You might be the most retarded person I've met. Zeppelin is best known for their diversity with their music. Their blends of hard rock, aucoustic, folk, country, middle eastern influences, and much more that they incorporated into their music. I literally have never heard someone say their music sounds the same, you are the first so congrats on being a complete dumbass son.
@GIOtheZIPPERHEAD ok Yoda stop projecting your own homosexuality on me bro. I dont want it, keep that shit in the closet if your not ready to face the external world with it.
All I have to say is listen to their fifth album "Houses of the Holy" and you will experience the true mastery of Led Zeppelin.
JackieRogerJr 4 days ago
Why is stern trashing zeppelin? Dude fuck off.
MsOzarka1 5 days ago
This is bull, Zeppelin gave Willie Dixon a credit on Zep 1. Zeppelin's music was influenced by artists like Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Willie Dixon, and they alluded to their songs self-consciously. You could make an equal claim for those Chicago blues giants ripping off early country blues artists like Charley Patton, Robert Johnson, Son House.
Danazawa 1 week ago
because zep has so much trouble writing original songs...
leppelinzed 4 weeks ago
Most overrated band ever
DFTLTV 1 month ago
The point is that you can't take credit for somebody else's work, not whether Zepplin was a great band or not. Most bands start off as cover bands.
Methrt3 1 month ago
This is complete crap, if you had told me that Zeppelin was ONLY known for songs written by somebody else you would have an argument. Less then 3% of Zeppelin songs have other author claims with only 10% of that 3% being played on the radio when those albums were put out. That means 97% of Zeppelin songs are their brains to your ears. If you think Stairway and Whole Lotta Love sound anything like the songs compared here you have no ability to compare and contrast.
666Grimmy666 1 month ago 2
it is one thing to do a cover and put the real songwriters name on the record -- it is another to put your own name on someone else's work
48dodea 1 month ago
You mean a bunch of English white guys ripped off a bunch of American black guys???? SHOCKING ( think Stones, Animals, early Beatles, whole Brit Invasion)
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@calebdengler1 Influence and plagiarism are two different things
AliceNchainz011 1 month ago
love howard stern and im a huuuuge zepp fan but zepp didnt rip off dazed and confused....it was the yardbirds (page's old band) and was later done by zeppelin so really zeppelin covered a yardbirds song which was ripped off
coreyorama 1 month ago
I've never seen so much pettiness exuded as in this interview and in the comments. Be thankful this band ever existed you twats.
knightnarles 1 month ago
there are three kinds of zeppelin fans that will comment on this video:
1.loved the band to death-after watching this video they hate them.
2.led zeppelin fanboys that deny anything that's against zeppelin-after watching this video they still don't care if they ripped off artists and made money for it, even if it's really easy to see they did.
3.Love Zeppelin-after watching this video loss respect for zeppelin , but still listen to zeppelin, because when you like a song nobody can stop you.
diego59x 1 month ago
@diego59x Yup, you summed it up. The fanboys are particularly annoying if they think not crediting doesn't matter. Im sure if they wrote a song that someone took and presented it as their own and made a lot of money on it, they'd be singing a different tune (no pun intended)
AliceNchainz011 1 month ago 2
@AliceNchainz011 yeah, we rock/metal fans complaint about the justin vieber fangirls and some of us are just as annoying.....
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Ichiboy, ClockworkOrange and other Zeppelin defenders are using BS arguments. Either they're getting their facts wrong, or they're trying to justify theft w/o acknowledging the original artists or they're saying, "Well, the Zeppelin version is so much better it somehow doesn't matter." First, that's your opinion, not fact. Second, whether it's better or not doesn't justify what they did.
BTW, I still consider myself a Zeppelin fan, but I also acknowledge FACT.
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26 Led Zeppelin fans in denial.
rusty1491 1 month ago 6
The Led Zeppelin version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave You is ridiculously better.. along with about any other song they "covered". It's theirs because they put art into it that the originals could never have even thought to poses.
FUCK THIS VIDEO FOR TRYING TO TAINT MY LOVE OF ZEPPELIN. FUCK YOU IF YOU DISAGREE. FUCK THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
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BABABOOEY HOWARDS STERN PENIS. But now I dont know if I have to hate Led Zep
Ceriam 2 months ago
is that it exposed these guys to the masses and their careers picked up.
ancientsymbol 2 months ago
@peregrinwadevathfrak - at least moderate success? By whose standard? I've been listening to the blues since the early '70's and many I'd never heard, including "Nobody's Fault". The numbers I'd heard - mostly Willie Dixon's stuff, we're not moderately popular. I grew up in Chicago and AOR wasn't playing ANY of it. Only blues aficionados were hearing it on vinyl. That's why nobody caught most of it for so long. And what it DID do, and what Stern and these other hacks fail to acknowledge,
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@ancientsymbol
You did read my comment--is that correct?
"Most had at least moderate successes, for their originators. Those old blues tunes were all covered by most of the 'Trad Jazz' British groups." Where do you think Mayall, Clapton, Korner, or Jones heard these--on American AOR radio? British and European radio--pirate, and otherwise.
I also grew up in Chicago, and listened to stations that mounted lots of jazz, blues, and Western classical radio programmes. I heard 'em all.
peregrinusnoctis 1 month ago
@ancientsymbol
(cont'd.)
In the USA, race records rarely gained any foot-hold in mainstream culture. Across the pond, however, they gained great currency. However, the situations with writing and arranging credits were more fluid, in those days. Still, those Brits who respected the art, first, paid up, and tried to gain exposure for their idols.
You mention that Dixon--and everyone else--got paid. By whom--by Page? This would seem doubtful, what with the credits most often being fudged.
peregrinusnoctis 1 month ago
Viva, bramachari. Lets all not like Led Zeppelin coz they nicked a few songs. Did they nick Stairway to Heaven, Battle of Evermore, Misty Mountain.....etc, etc.... No, they just played their own versions of a few tracks, in the early days.
Oh yeh. The Beatles, The Stones, who else...? How about Pink Floyd? Anyone else people want to comment on about "stealing songs and stuff".
Oh, "that's what we do in the UK"!!!
Is that true then! Like you don't steal anything eh?
DaveGilmourIsGod 2 months ago
Led Zeppelin is like a mighty tree that outlives the dinosaurs.
bramachari 2 months ago
It's often not the person who comes up with an idea but the one who does the most with it. The orchestration, performance and production of Led Zep's music is impeccable. It's superior to the rough cut gems that inspired it.
It would inexcusable if Jimmy Page stole a completed manuscript of a novel and just put his name on it and sold it. That's not the case. Led Zeppelin is like a tree that survived the dinosaurs.
Picasso said it best: Good artists borrow, great artists steal.
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@bramachari
Clearly, they plagiarised.
When an artist uses integral elements of another artist's song and "re-imagines" it, then the artist is legally and artistically bound to note it, in the credits. For example, "Dazed and Confused (J. Holmes, arr. Led Zeppelin)."
To do otherwise is dishonest, and cheats other artists of their due--both financially and artistically. Plus, it reduces Led Zeppelin's legacy to that of a group of talented thieves, who stole from those they claimed to respect.
peregrinusnoctis 2 months ago
@peregrinusnoctis do you consider Edward Van Halen's guitar piece "Eruption" to be totally original? or Mean Street? Both those song borrow HEAVILY from Edgar Winter's Frankenstein, but I seem to be the only one who hears it. What do you think of that?
bramachari 2 months ago
@bramachari
I'd never before heard "Mean Streets," so I just had a listen to the studio version and a few live versions. The intro tapping (studio) and the crescendos (live) certainly channel some of the stuff that EW was doing throughout the 1970s. I don't recognise any distinct signature, however. Which is it? The rhythm section on some of the live versions is tight, like EW's.
Saw VH in 1980, but by VH III, I'd heard enough. Great technique, but too much tapping is too much tapping.
peregrinusnoctis 2 months ago
@bramachari
VH's "Eruption" is a blessedly brief showcase for EVH's fingers. It's fun, blows through lots of effects and settings, and gets over quickly.
I could always hear a bit of Blackmore in EVH, but that might well just be me. Other than the technical proficiency, and the tendency to sounds as though one's noodling around aimlessly at times, I don't catch much of EW's "Frankstein" in EVH's "Eruption."
peregrinusnoctis 2 months ago
@peregrinusnoctis I would have to be with you in person and play the parts for comparison. Mean Streets is a slight reworking of the basic driving riff of Frankenstein. And the first part of the lead break in Mean Streets ("Dance Baby!) is the sax break in Frankenstein.
And Nazereth's "Hair of the Dog" is just The Beatles "Day Tripper" with a harder tone and a slight rhythmic tweak.
And Robert Plants battle cry in The Immigrant Song is from the opening theme from Get Smart.
bramachari 2 months ago
Give Jake Holmes credit?!?!?! how about 3 million fucking dollars! This was my fav Zeppelin tune....WAS being the oparative word.
mfurman6969 2 months ago
Led Zep were my fav rock band until about 45 seconds ago
mfurman6969 2 months ago
dobn't forget about the rolling stones and the beatles...there's a whole bunch of homeless, dead and/or drug black musicians who should be millionares. That's what UK musicians do best, from 'rock' to drum n'bass. thank you HOWard!!!!! (again)
mfurman6969 2 months ago
fuck you howard stern, for bashing not the greatest cover band but the greatest rock n roll band of all time
corpralkirsch 2 months ago
Who cares? You gotta give it up for Zeppelin, legendary, awesome, no one like them, so who cares? if you don't like 'em, who cares about that either.
You think Zeppelin care? Page, Plant, Jones (and Bonham, if he was around), couldn't give a toss.
"most successful cover band of all time"? What a prick.
DaveGilmourIsGod 2 months ago
@DaveGilmourIsGod
Musicians care about plagiarism.
Artists care about plagiarism.
It's one thing to steal bits and bobs from others, and sneak a riff into one's own work, as a sly nod--a respectful wink--to those whose work one admires, and to those whose work helped to inspire and form one's own work. It's quite another to appropriate another's work, and attribute it to oneself.
You cannot be any kind of an artist, and believe otherwise.
peregrinusnoctis 2 months ago
This shit went on all the time. Blues were traded back and forth along with riffs. None of these songs would've seen the light if day without Zep. Wille Dixon got paid and I'm sure so did the rest. Even Pagey couldn't have predicted the level of their success.
ancientsymbol 2 months ago
@ancientsymbol
"None of these songs would've seen the light if day without Zep."
Huh? Most had at least moderate successes, for their originators. Those old blues tunes were all covered by most of the "Trad Jazz" British groups. However, most of the bands had the decency to credit the songs' writers, and only claim the arrangements as their own. Page/Plant, apparently, thought enough of the tunes to use them, but not enough of the artists to give them the accepted cut of the royalties.
peregrinusnoctis 2 months ago
Led Zeppelin II is their best album anyway. People always say IV, but no, not at all.
JoeyBieg 2 months ago in playlist More videos from amjfanbeforehedied
I`m surprised that so many people dont realize this. Everyone does this, even today, ever hear the word "sampling"? . All rock and roll is copied! Especially from the old delta blues. They have given us their interpretation of these songs. Let me ask you this question, How much say do you think an unknown group get about what`s printed on their first album? who do you think controls that? ----Atlantic records.
ugleeamerican 2 months ago
Maybe they covered it better than the original
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mjk5174 2 months ago
@mjk5174 the didn't 'cover' anything. They stole music from other bands & artists and claimed they created it.
Rimbaud1531 2 months ago
LED RIP OFF
80s90ssports 3 months ago
WHO CARES?!!!! I LIKE THE 'ZEP' VERSION ANYWAY. I wouldn't have listened to Babe I'm going to Leave You any other way.
vintagesupermodified 3 months ago
1. Led Zeppelin played covers. Get over it.
2. Led Zeppelin did not give original artists credit. Piss on them for that.
3. They finally gave credit out of realizing they hadn't, and guilt set in.
4. They are the only band in history to have that distinct style and sound.
5. People have known their mistake, forgave them, and still love listening to them.
6. They are not a cover band. They started out that way.
7. Accept the truth and stop trolling.
Game Over. Everyone Wins.
JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
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JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
who even cares about this anyway?? its all in the past! led zeppelin to me will always be one of the greatest bands ever, no matter what!
saranicole12345 3 months ago
@saranicole12345 THANK YOU. Someone who actually still likes them lol
JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
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JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
All the fanboy comments make me laugh. justifying it wont make it go away or get rid of the fact that it is plagiarism. Overrated like the Beatles.
fucker661 4 months ago in playlist Random
@fucker661 OOrr overrated like today's music.
JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
@fucker661 No. You know what? I'm not gonna troll. I am going to end all this on here with facts. 1. They started as a cover band. They ended up rock gods.
2. They didn't give due credit. So yes they fucked up.
3. It is not considered Plagiarism in that time period. Back then bands fed off each other. Nowadays that is Plagiarism.
4. They still should have given due credit.
5. Their music is still good. So count out the covers and they still are on top with their unique playing style and sounds
JustinDavidPierce 3 months ago
@JustinDavidPierce AMEN!
bramachari 2 months ago
There's no better band than led zeppelin for sure
superfunksters 4 months ago
If Led Zeppelin is overrated, then the beatles downright suck ass
armatageshanks06 4 months ago
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fucker661 4 months ago in playlist Random
Led Zeppelin was an overrated band for sure. There were lots of bands around at that time that were just as good that never got enough credit. I dont think the problem is Zeppelin having similar songs to the originals the problem is there were way to many. I realize the blues is fairly repetitive however Zeppelin more so than any other band has ripped off and copied way to many of other artists songs. I still like the Zep but overrated they are
TheBeaugraham 4 months ago
All these songs are from their debut album, which was recorded in 36 hrs. Zep had just formed, so they didn't have many original songs nor hardly any time in the studio. These were songs they had been performing live, which included a mix of original songs with reworkings of old blues songs. On "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You", Page thought this was a traditional folk song. Subsequent album rereleases properly credited Bredon. Dixon was properly credited on 2 songs. Everyone needs to seriously relax!
ClockworkOrangeABC 4 months ago 3
@ClockworkOrangeABC watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL Watch these 3 part videos. They took way too much. About half of their 2nd album. And also some songs off Zeppelin 3 and 4 including their most famous song Stairway To Heaven.
LanceK17 3 months ago
@ClockworkOrangeABC I didn't know stairway to heaven was on the first album
jasperwoods 2 months ago
@ClockworkOrangeABC So you're making excuses for theft now? Do you say the same thing when a poor kid in the ghetto had no food, so he just grabbed some oranges from the corner store?
SenatorPhoenix 2 months ago in playlist More videos from amjfanbeforehedied
@ClockworkOrangeABC Sorry dude that's not the facts. They kept up steal'n for album after album...
Wallycrawler 1 month ago
@ClockworkOrangeABC so you think just because you said that it somehow all of a sudden makes it ok? NO - IT DOESN'T and shame on you for thinking that you admitting they stole the songs somehow makes it ok. 36 hours? so what - so you're saying they knew they were making an album - and didn't bother to come up with any of their own songs and decided to rob other people's songs somehow makes it ok? HELLL NO THEY ROBBED THE SONGS!
Youzentubo 1 month ago
@ClockworkOrangeABC what do YOU do for a living? I will take it , make it mine - sell it make loads of money and then tell YOU to relax - is that ok?
Youzentubo 1 month ago
@ClockworkOrangeABC fucking asshole - telling everyone to relax but it wasn't his livilihood that got stolen. he'd be whining like a little bitch if it happened to him - it's ok wiht himi though - cause its not him. ASSHOLE!
Youzentubo 1 month ago
I gotta admit this has been painful to listen to :-(
JudiTheWitch 4 months ago in playlist LedZep
I am really surprised at how many people are saying they don't like Led Zeppelin anymore after watching this. Who cares, so they lifted a few lyrics and that one riff from Dazed and Confused, they still sound 10 times better than the originals, and plus it's not like Led Zeppelin can't right their own songs, Ten Years Gone, The Rain Song, No Quarter, and plenty of other songs disprove that.
Ichiboy900 4 months ago 7
@Ichiboy900 Anyone saying they don't like Zeppelin after listening to this is probably lying.
theredraven 4 months ago 3
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@theredraven "Anyone saying they don't like Zeppelin after listening to this is probably lying."
And complete idiots.
ClockworkOrangeABC 1 month ago
@Ichiboy900 Who cares? Like the caller said any mediocre band can take a great idea and put a good spin on it. Why couldn' they just be original? Or at least give credit that they're covering another artist. Look at VH their version of "you really got me now" blows away the kinks (imo) but still they admitted it was a cover and no one would have respected them if all their hits were stolen (which they weren't).
PabloDPena 4 months ago
@PabloDPena Most of Led Zeppelin's most well known songs aren't stolen. The songs here are from their 1st album, made up of mostly blues covers redid with a hard rock edge. I could list a dozen more 100% original Led Zeppelin songs, the guys obviously have writing talent. With their 1st album they just had to record quickly and didn't have time for the writing process, it was just Led Zeppelin displaying their own sound.
Ichiboy900 4 months ago
@Ichiboy900 How would you feel if Soulja Boy lifted a few lyrics and riffs from your beloved rock songs. Would you feel the same way? NO. You're blinded by your bias and love for Led
SenatorPhoenix 2 months ago in playlist More videos from amjfanbeforehedied
@Ichiboy900 IT WASN'T JUST A FEW LICKS AND A FEW LYRICS ASSHOLE! THEYROBBED THEM ALL!
Youzentubo 1 month ago
Led Zep dropped 50 notches in my book, if it weren't for their performing skills they would have lost all credit.
bbutters2 4 months ago
jimmy page was playing dazed and confused with the yardbirds before zeppelin
ShinraExecutive 5 months ago
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Even if they stole songs they were still capable of writing amazing songs. look at kashmir that sounds like fucking beethoven wrote it so no i still have full respect for them.
nirvanabeatle1 5 months ago
Even if they stole songs they were still capable of writing amazing songs. look at kashmir that sounds like fucking beethoven wrote it so no i still have full respect for them.
nirvanabeatle1 5 months ago
@nirvanabeatle1 All Bands rip off each other nothing is original
andyman0231 4 months ago
@nirvanabeatle1 How the hell does it sound like "fucking beethoven" wrote it?
jrtlawful 4 months ago
@jrtlawful listen to the riff. as simple as that
nirvanabeatle1 4 months ago
@nirvanabeatle1 the riff sounds nothing like anything by Beethoven that I ever heard. Its a great riff, but its rock. I have a feeling you are saying that cause it has an orchestra on it, but that doesn't equal Beethoven.
jrtlawful 4 months ago
fuck am i sad man :(
MurderNun 5 months ago
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YanickBrew 5 months ago
They ripped off the shit part of the song, But the awesome part is still Zeppelin
YanickBrew 5 months ago
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All this info and much more is detailed in the book Sounds Like Teen Spirit by Tim English.
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t55english 5 months ago
You know what's funny if you listen to the compositions they are completely different. How hard would it have been to come up with different lyrics.....geez!
funlover2283 5 months ago
"Yeah but what kind of pigs are they?!" ....I'm going to punch that lady in the face.
MCRomg 5 months ago
@MCRomg What's wrong with that statement? Zeppelin stole songs and credited themselves as the author. If that isn't piggish, then I don't know what is.
ltmaniac 5 months ago
@ltmaniac I don't care- there are so many low things a person can do...and they choose to focus on the unimportant. It's really, very sad.
MCRomg 5 months ago
Traveling Riverside Blues was originally written by Robert Johnston,and dazed and confused was originally called "I'm Confused".I forget who wrote it,it could have been Willie Dixon,i'm not sure.Also when the levee breaks was originally done by Memphis Minnie.
STRATCAT101 6 months ago
Bottom line. If you completely steal a song, without giving credit, it is not a tribute. It does not mean a THING if they "made the song 100x better." They didn't MAKE the song, they stole it, shame on them.
Eekekey 6 months ago
howard stern sucks dick for dimes
acenslash 6 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK IM GOING TO THROW UP
frusciantenc 6 months ago
you know i really really love howard stern. but this is moronic. its called the FUCKING BLUES. this is such bullshit. granted, they should credit other bands, but for fucks sake, its called a cover. if no one covered anything, theyre wouldnt be music in the first place. fucking moronic
lzjpzoso 6 months ago
howars is just jealous because Robert Plant is hung like a horse and howard is hung like a hamster.
niteholler 6 months ago
@niteholler Zeppelin sucks for stealing not only 1 or 2 songs by albums of them!!!
Ioulum 5 months ago
the songs in their original versions just outright sucked and LZ made them 100 times or more better. also the best LZ songs were written by LZ themselves. who wrote Ten Years Gone and Achilles Last Stand? and howard stern has a tiny penis and is a closet homosexual.
niteholler 6 months ago
@niteholler Go drink a pint of Jimmy Page cum you fanboy. Led Zep are overrated
louiscfc93 5 months ago
@niteholler achilles last stand..lol..what over the top boring bullshit that song is.
45arther 5 months ago
OK, maybe many of the songs on led zeppelin one werent originally written by them, but EVERY SINGLE SONG led zeppelin released that was a "rip off" Zep made totally their own and you cant even recognize some of the originals compared to the the ones Zep released. Led Zeppelin is the best rock band of all time even if they did borrow some lyrics
cooladenyou1 6 months ago
The greatest cover band of all time lol
MindstormRecs 6 months ago
ok lets be honest. im sick of everyone saying led zeppelin stole all their stuff. they did no such thing. What "original" blues song in the history of music is totally 100 percent original. NONE. they all have the same tune, same tempo, same chorus, verse chrous break down, and same repetitive lyrics. Led zeppelin has done nothing but what has been going on for decades. they simply made it their own!!! their OWN. shut up with this plagarism stuff. NO music is 100 percent original!!!
sperogd 6 months ago
@sperogd There's a clear difference between paying tribute to your influences and simply passing them off as if they were your own. So i guess you wouldnt be the slightest bit peeved if you wrote a song and someone else ripped it off, became a success from it and you never saw a dime?
AliceNchainz011 5 months ago
fu howard stern and those 2 fags that were with him, im sorry led zepplin did steal those songs but lets face it those original artist wouldnt even earn a nickle for the song they all led zepplin did was evolutinized those songs and made it worth hearing. i guarantee that everybody who hates led zepplin right now wouldnt even both listening to the songs they took, and wat does it matter if it sounds listen to it!
littleman938 6 months ago
I think no one cared and continues not to care because they made songs that kind of sucked some of the best songs ever. No one wants to listen to that lady sing and play "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You", I want to hear Page, Plant, Bonzo and JPJ, waaaaaaaaaaaay better.
loki343 6 months ago
@loki343
So did the beatles, but they credited the writers of Twist and Shout etc. If you improve a "Cover" or spice it up, you still have to credit the original writers.
babystinky 6 months ago
LZ made it pretty damn clear that those songs were NOT theirs.
anyone who claims he started the "concept of classic rock" & is the leading classic rock "expert" is seriously ill
jeffersonairplaned 6 months ago
This is what happens if You don't accept Howard Sterns invitation to be on his show. Everyone except Led Zeppelin has been on his show. Classy Move Howard, it's no wonder your ratings are dying. Note; Robin calling Led Zeppelin Pigs is going too far.
rodd7 6 months ago
@rodd7 His ratings are as healthy as ever, Led Zeppelin fanboys won't convince me or the numbers otherwise
MindstormRecs 6 months ago
This is the tip of the ice berg. There are a number of songs that they ripped.
I always knew robert plant had no soul.
ryanb113n 6 months ago
this is just stupid if they credited them then its done stop bitching and let them rock!
Ace1Eclipse 6 months ago
@Ace1Eclipse i hope you know jimmy page and his cock sucking 3 friends still don't give credit to any of these people. "Get The Led Out!" and use your brain that they always stole songs and never gave credit to any of them.
StupidFuckingTrolls 6 months ago
led zeppelin sucks huge donkey dick.
zebula8 7 months ago
@zebula8 YOU SUCK HUGE DONKEY DICK!!!!! FUCKING MORON!!!
ckelley63 7 months ago
All the originals sucked and Led Zeppelin made it better
Cubbies1988 7 months ago
@Cubbies1988 Not the point though is it. Song writing credits should of been given immediately.
TheShepster80 6 months ago
It would make me very proud if it were actually those four (Plant, Page, Bohnam, Jones),that came up with the idea of being the greatest rock and roll act in the history of mankind, and getting a jumpstart on that latdder by paying homage to their own idols, who literally had no names ...OR MONEY!!!!....before Zep
That's much more honorable than some FAT FUCK now who invents a shit group like "New kids on the block", and then ten lears later photocopies it and calls it the "Backstreet Boys"
desperatleyseekingap 7 months ago
This is why anyone who says Zeppelin was better than the Beatles should be killed.
zeroeffects88 7 months ago
Dazed and Confused was a Yardbird song. It was called I am Confused
rossiscute35 8 months ago
@rossiscute35 No, Dazed and Confused was a Jake Holms song called Dazed and Confused.
TitaniousGrubbs 8 months ago
YOU SHOOK ME has a line from a robert johnson song
BLACK DOG resembles a fleetwood mac song
BOOGIE WITH STU was from a Richie Valens song.
THINK ABOUT IT by YARDBIRDS!!!
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
In June 2010, Jake Holmes sued Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page for copyright infringement, claiming to have written and recorded “Dazed and Confused” two years before it appeared on Led Zeppelin's debut album. In court documents Holmes cited a 1967 copyright registration for “Dazed and Confused” which was renewed in 1995.[5]
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
uh there is a guitar solo in dazed and confused from an old yardbirds song
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
@MichaelHansenFUN Jimmy Page was the guitarist for the Yardbirds.
SuperDoesitreallymat 8 months ago
@SuperDoesitreallymat they had 3 of them, clapton, beck, page ect...
check the song THINK ABOUT IT by the Yardbirds
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
@MichaelHansenFUN That's Jimmy Page playing the solo. It's his solo.
SuperDoesitreallymat 8 months ago
@SuperDoesitreallymat yes he played...
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
5:56 that is in HAMMER OF THE GODS and "Shade and light" the credits read "Traditional arr by J. Page" (on original pressings of the album) , DAZED AND CONFISED WAS CREDITED TO JIMMY PAGE ONLY but also in the book it says that it was stolen from Jake Holmes, Also DAZED AND CONFUSED has a guitar solo segment from an old Yardbirds b-side. (Jake said 'what the hell, let him have it')
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
who is he interviewing
MichaelHansenFUN 8 months ago
Excellent! Now someone needs to make a radio show like this dedicated to Deep Purple. They're the greatest cover band in the world!
brianpage100 9 months ago
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brianpage100 9 months ago
@brianpage100 Most people in the know about Zeppelin are fully aware of this, and don't care.. They made these songs sound so much better..does it matter???
FooManchuDingo 7 months ago
Hahahaha what do you expect from a bunch of greasy drug addict Lucifer worshippers? These shit bags have never had an original idea in their lives. Look at their shitbag fanboys comments on this board defending blatant theft of other musicians material.
mookixox 9 months ago
@mookixox
Amen to that! They make me sick.
aliciaanne 9 months ago
@mookixox Obvious troll is obvious
LZEP332 9 months ago
@LZEP332 <<< How does it feel to know your greatest heroes since you were a kid turns out to be a bunch of greasy shit head plagiarists?
mookixox 9 months ago
@mookixox I really don't give two shits. They made great music out of songs that would not have made it big without their revamping. I still love their music, even if it isn't completely theirs
LZEP332 9 months ago
@LZEP332 if it was jay z or 50 cent rippin off you would be havin fits of rage
louiscfc93 9 months ago
@LZEP332 sorry to burst your bubble but they ripped songs off and claimed they were there own.thats a fuckin low thing to do.if bieber took a hendrix song and it exploded all over the radio and tv would you condone that ?
louiscfc93 9 months ago 15
@louiscfc93 really it would be more like stealing a charlie parker tune with the kind of shit they lifted.. most of it was from dead blues musicians.. soo fucking low not to mention uncreative, lost a lot of respect for them when i found out about their hack song writing
wannabesedated00 6 months ago
@louiscfc93 i would, covering is part of music, imitation is the greatest flattery.
sk8er4ever0101 4 months ago
@louiscfc93 Surely the more important thing is if you enjoy, who gives a fuck if it was ripped off or not?
theredraven 4 months ago
@theredraven Well it is about enjoyment to a degree but when you create a mythology and reputation off of someone elses tracks its a bit of a slap in the face. And when you actively lie that is even worse.
louiscfc93 4 months ago
wow! shows how lazy they were. Drugs are bad. They were lazy
cellardoor199991 10 months ago
Stern you are a asshole,go jump in the Hudson. Degenerate Jew.
neilzep 10 months ago
holy shit who's the braud with the annoying voice? she's so fuckin unnecessary I don't even care about zeppelin stealing I just wanna kick her in the face.
lutz18692 10 months ago
led zep was just following the tradition of reworking blues songs. countless artists have done this. sure jimmy didnt write black mountainside, but do you think bert jansch wrote black waterside? ppl just got mad because zep was making shit loads of money
leppelinzed 10 months ago
@leppelinzed that and they're a bunch of hacks!
77Fortran 10 months ago
i recall something about them being satan worshipers. any confirmation?
rickbangkok 11 months ago
@rickbangkok they werent satan worshipers.
diperrimax 10 months ago
@rickbangkok How could they be worshiping a satan that doesnt exist?
interfan63 10 months ago
to bad led zeppelins versions own the others so hard they might as well have written them
SuperTrancend 11 months ago 2
@SuperTrancend its not that hard to look at a song,see how it can be improved and cover it better
louiscfc93 9 months ago
@SuperTrancend oh your right learning to play instruments in the first place even on a basic level is cake if forgot good point. I bet we could both play like Page or sing like Plant with a month of sitting on the internet.
SuperTrancend 9 months ago
Not only a group of plagiarists but also Paige was a paedophile.
They fell out in a big way from my top bands. Well looks like the Zombies are moving up in my estimation.
ImaginedWriter 11 months ago
Interesting. Some goes too far, though.
JustCamus 11 months ago
@DenimZero Plant and Page got more pussy than you ever will.
1010cervantes 11 months ago 2
@1010cervantes Quote..."Plant and Page got more pussy than you ever will." Gee, that'll get them on the stairway to Heaven. Fact remains the same...Zeppelin's been sued (& lost) more times than you THOUGHT of getting laid.
Kazyman 9 months ago
@1010cervantes What's that got to do with music?
finylvinyl66 4 months ago
@DenimZero Go fuck myself? Thats actually your moms job. Their music sounds the same? You might be the most retarded person I've met. Zeppelin is best known for their diversity with their music. Their blends of hard rock, aucoustic, folk, country, middle eastern influences, and much more that they incorporated into their music. I literally have never heard someone say their music sounds the same, you are the first so congrats on being a complete dumbass son.
dt089 11 months ago
who gives a fuck man led zeppelin is the shit fuck howard stern & joan biez
sexpistol455 11 months ago
Led Zeppelin: the world's greatest cover band.
fucker661 11 months ago
@GIOtheZIPPERHEAD ok Yoda stop projecting your own homosexuality on me bro. I dont want it, keep that shit in the closet if your not ready to face the external world with it.
dt089 11 months ago
@GIOtheZIPPERHEAD Stop giving your boyfriend oral when you reply to a comment.
dt089 11 months ago