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  • tf 30fps? PS3 runs on 60fps idiot. -______-

    You made ps3 look like trash.

  • ive play assassins creed 2 on my ps3 and it says it can be played on 1080 p and i have a tv on 1080 but still it dosent work also with brotherhood

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  • i got this for ps and i was so disappointed with all the frame rate drops it gets really annoying if your a playstation only owner pass on this shitty port

  • lol at all the ps fanboys shitstorm of butthurt.

  • The PS3 guy is just a FAIL player.

  • i have assassins creed 2 on the ps3 and the framerate drops as the video i alredy switched the disk and tested on the store and all drops sry guys but the truth is that ac 2 isnt a game for ps3 sorry if i look like a fanboy cause im not u can check my videos i have a ps3

  • I bet Microsoft pays you to do videos like this . You are fuckin' racist against Japs . That's all . I have played the game on XBOX as well as on PS3 and I swear to god that almost , nothing changes except for some details . You are trying to sabotage the PS3 , the 2 consoles have their + as their - . We don't give a shit for a couple of details !!!

  • @CNKryptonite27 ps3 won in bfbc 2 so no this is a shitty port lol

  • @CNKryptonite27 "You are fuckin' racist against Japs." I would just like to point out, how ironic in your statement is.

  • nice try with making it and experiment. but the way you did it made it an unreliable experiment. thank you science

  • XBOX BUGER IN 3:11...PS3 rocks dudes XD...

    Man it's almost the same thing...

  • mutch better picture on xbox

  • one more thing.. it is different times of the day in the game... how can you compare then?

  • One is clearly in HD (Looks like 1080p) and the other is in 480p. Can you guess which is which!

  • I loved assassins creed 2s quicktime events. It mattered what time you pressed it, instead of just pressing it before time ran out. GoTY 2009

  • 3:11 in ps3 they kiss, but in xbox they missed each others lips wth

  • i think the point of this is same tv different consoles different results. just because ur ps3 looks better on ur tv or w/e thats because it hasent traveled through two mediums to get there. ive seen both consoles on many different tvs and when it comes down to it u cant tell a difference unless they are side-by-side. just be happy the game is actuallly on both consoles.

  • stop playing your ps3 on sd

  • ezios high voice lol

  • Xbox looks way better, but has anyone noticed that xbox tends to be too dark sometimes? It just looks unnatural, and wouldn't be very easy to see when playing dark games like Dead Space and Amnesia the Dark Descent.

  • xbox will always win

  • almost 100 video made by this lens of truth. and most of video comparisson xbox is more good in graphics. i have both console. atleast my ps3 has bluray to watch stuning movies.

  • @klicket89 I Just played it on the ps3 you know with the playstation plus 1 hr trial and yes it looks exactly like that. yes i have my ps3 hdmi setting on full. trust me i'am a tech guy i know what i'am doing. assassin creed 1 was exatly the same thing between versions. don't take this the wrong way but your problem is you haven't played the 360 version. what you see in this video is the exact reasons 90% of the time i bought the 360 version of games over the ps3.

  • You should change your username to "Lens of skewing the truth to tilt in favor of your XBOX3SHITTY fanboy views."

  • @1gamer45 And WTF are you making things up? The PS3 was not released until November 11, 2006 yet you say you've been playing with a PS3 since 2004? What's next? You're playing with a Wii U right now?

  • @1gamer45 Wow, you had a PS3 way back in 2004? Amazing! I got mine when it was released on November 11, 2006. You have a Time Machine or something? Can you get me the Wii U now?

  • Haha , this must be an xbox fanboy for life bs . I played this on my 1080 32 inch tv and ps3 and it doesn't look like this . Plus there's settings that you have to change to make it look better . But I rlly dnt care . So all you nerds and 10 year olds can say w/e y'all want . I wnt rlly care cause I'm nt a game freak

  • @Ballplayer300th yea the settings to make the ps3 version look better aren't here in this video the xbox automatically does it all for you that's why the xbox looks so nice

  • @MDiGIaC too bad people dnt know . they're nt getting the best out of the ps3

  • They look the same,but then again I really don't care.

  • who cares what looks better...so long as it doesn't look like graphics from an NES or Gameboy xD

  • haha wtf i play ps3 on HD tv and its does not look like this it is 10 times better lol

  • I dont agree,ps3 is better :P for me graphics are on ps3, even better than on xbox. I think mos of u will agree that xbox and ps3 are the same psn-xbox live,almost every game is for both of consoles and the controls are the same

  • Looks the same to me then again i honestly dont care about graphics

  • hehehe it looks better n 360 :D

  • das bulshit PS3 is better it shud look better then this

  • I think Assassin's Creed was made for the 360

  • its all about the lighting

  • you can clearly tell this guys a fan boy look at his fucking logo,

    and the fact that birghtness is low ANNNNNND

    he probably changed the setting to LIMITED which is the default setting on ps3

  • But then again It does look different if u change the setting and mess with the brightness

  • Not based on this video but think that the xbox 360 show better graphics and more color than the ps3 and I have both

  • wtf? i played this on ps3 and it looked way better than that

    this dude just trying to make the ps3 look like nothing

  • @TheTebo1994 HAHA the truth is it really looks like this, THIS IS THE MUTHAFUCKING LENS OF TRUTH, he has plenty of comparisons ( like 100?) and let me tell you.. lens of truth doesn't tell false information mr IGNORANT, you must accept that xbox looks so much better here than ps3

  • @thetocotaco whatever you say man

    whatever you say

  • @TheTebo1994 now thats the way:)

  • bah la pc se las garcha a las 2

  • No PC :(

    Anyway PS3>Xbox360 :)

  • What exactly do they mean by frame tears? Can someone please tell me? Sorry for not knowing. I've heard about it a lot, I just never knew what it really meant...

    But to comment on the comparing, it's obvious they've changed graphics settings to make the PS3 look bad. I play on 360, and AC2 looks like that, but AC2 on the PS3 looks just as good, too. I've seen my cousin play it on her PS3, it doesn't look like that. Epic fail. *facepalm*

  • this is bullshit! they played with the saturation, brightness, sharpness, etc. im not saying that the ps3 is much better, but do something else with your life than make the ps3 look bad.

  • you people are completely fucking stupid if you really think the rest of the video gamers in the world who play PS3 are dumb enough to overlook the fact that you fucked with the color, brightness, and saturation of the PS3 side of this wanna be xbox showoff, to make it look like it has poor graphic quality get a life FAGS!!!

  • i also play this game on the ps3 on a 32 inch led tv and it looks 100 times better

  • @jonathanbosss xbox > ps

  • @1gamer45 I know I play it on my HD TV and it looks amazing this vid is totally wrong

  • gameplay, higher res, less latency and support for bigger multiplayer matches, they will find these things on PC. If they're looking for something else or don't care about those things then it would definitely not be worth shelling out for a good PC. Consoles do their jobs just fine and for much cheaper.

  • @Togiveandtotake The templars DID find the arch in jurseilim. And they built the REAL vault. Have you heard of the Moneypit in Nova Scotia Canada? Templar clues point to it and its 100% booby trapped...the more you try to enter, the further the vault sinks into the ocean. They did hide some thing there my friend. or at least a clue to the vault, should it be a mock vault, which could be true. We have to find it, we have 1 year.

  • @Togiveandtotake

    Thats sad tho...and scary at the same time its gonna be something when its over

  • @Togiveandtotake what do you mean ubisoft is owned by the templars?

  • i play my ps3 on a19in tv from 2004 and it looks 2o times better than it does here wtf ppl change the brightness!!!

  • i think ppl and lens of truth doesn't know were the brightness option is.....

  • It only looks brighter because its differnt hours of the day in game :L

  • i dont know man, i have both, they are both preety good,

  • Does all this channel do is make fanboys argue and argue? Every video i've watched and seen the comments and there's always fanboy arguing over which is better.

  • On PC, Ati vs Nvidia solves with benchmarks.They test each gpu for performance, temperature levels, power consumption, fan noise, budle games value, etc.If i want now to buy a console witch one is best value?They don't know, this is funny.When can we see a console benchmark?

  • and we all wonder why gametraders went out of business lol

  • lol...

    PC > any console

    No point argueing over PS3 vs Xbox

  • Fuck this analysis, I would still play this game even if it had only 3 pixels.

  • @IRewweIR Then it would just be ac sound effects with 3 big squares on screen that change color.

  • this is such bullshit. u need a strong processor to run a game like this the ps3's cpu takes a shit on the 360's so i dont understand how this game could run better on the 360. lighting can easily be changed in the start menu sooooo

  • @05candyman

    Most games run a little better on the 360.

    The PS3's processor doesn't exactly destroy the 360s........they're very different, but the SPEs on the PS3 aren't like cores. The GPU and memory setup are very different too.

  • @Usul573 The PS3 has much more powerful hardware. Killzone 2 easily rivals PC games on their highest settings. Xbox 360 has only 77 GFLOPS, While PS3 is north of 300 GFLOPS.

  • @Ringtail23

    In the CPU or GPU?

    Even I'm not too sure what the actual GLOPs for both consoles are.

    GFLOPs are theoretical performance running certain types of code, they don't give any kind of actual indication of what games would run like. It also depends on the developer for how the system is used.

  • @Usul573 Thats in total processing power in the entire console. Not being a fanboy, PS3 exclusives have some of the best graphics I've ever seen, and the Xbox is seriously holding back the development of gaming graphics. Microsoft made a bad decision rushing the Xbox out like that.

  • @Ringtail23

    I think it might be about

    PS3 GPU=400 GFLOPS

    PS3 CPU=200 GFLOPS

    360 GPU=240 GFLOPS

    360 CPU=95 GFLOPS

    It's all theoretical for certain conditions though.

    More than ever before the developers have to work to do the best they can with the processing power for 360/PS3 games. They are both very programmable and everything.

  • @Usul573 Both are very programmable but the PS3 is much more future-proof thanks to Blu-ray, and the PS3 really shows off what current gen consoles can really do.

    Microsoft though, tried to rush the 360 to get it in business before the PS3, and now they face the consequences. Bad hardware design, relatively weak CPU & GPU compared to PS3, and the console itself is really unstable. They semi-fixed with the newest revision of the Xbox, but it still suffers from heat issues and still uses DVDs.

  • @Ringtail23

    It's.....eh.

    The PS3's GPU can do more calculations and has higher fillrates, but the 360's GPU has more pipelines, has unified shaders, uses DirectX, and has a daughter die. The PS3's CPU can do more calcuations but the 360's CPU is a more simple triple core processor that's easy to use.

    Coming out earlier has advantages. I'm a big PS3 fan and I don't even have a 360 yet but I'll defend the 360 if people start yelling about it. I think it's in a bit better position.

  • @Usul573 I don't think DirectX is much better than OpenGL. As for position, the PS3 is actually in the better position because developers have begun to realize the PS3 is the better development platform. Bioware said it was better, Valve is now making games and said Portal 2 would be the definitive version on PS3, Visceral making Dead Space 2 better on PS3, etc.

    As for ease of use, Crytek said they had no trouble working with PS3, so I don't think it's any less troubling than the Xbox.

  • @Ringtail23

    It's not like the PS3 is troubling or anything, but it's difficult to use all of it well.

    Both have sold 51 million? I thought it was 47m for the PS3 and 51m for the 360.

    A lot of people do buy PS3 for blu-ray, but whatever. I love mine personally.

  • @Usul573 The Wikipedia page for both consoles is outdated. Charts show they are both almost equal in sales. And TBH, I've worked with the Cell before, it's really not that difficult, it's just either lazy porting or lazy developers. I'm glad to see though that the PS3 is starting to become the multiplatform console of choice, because it's the more powerful machine.

    What annoys me though is PC fanboys saying the PC's graphics rapes consoles, but as a developer, only difference is the resolution

  • @Ringtail23

    I checked around a bit, is vgchartz up to date?

    Maybe not difficult but just takes work and time, which sometimes the developers can't do as much of.

    Does best for exclusives of course.

    PC graphics.....it's not just resolution and other image quality advantages, they can do better effects with DX11 and other stuff.

    One thing that will be interesting is when IGPs eventually destroy what the PS3 and 360 have.

    Have to wonder what's next.

  • @Ringtail23 The PC fanboys are right. Many games on consoles still aren't even native 720p. A good PC port or an exclusive will have better textures, more AA and AF, etc. Combine these things with 1080p+ native resolutions and the ability to play at 60+ fps instead of 30 and it's not even close, sorry to say. I truly doubt you've worked on the cell, as what you've said is just plain stupid.

    And I love consoles, I grew up on them. But PC>consoles. Check my RE5 benchmark if you need proof.

  • @KugelSchwindler25 Slightly better graphics does not constitute the amount of money your paying for PC gaming. Add up the cost of the GPU, the CPU, the case, the fancy mice and keyboards, and your paying a bit too much. People like consoles because thy output comparable graphics to the PC, and are MUCH cheapeer.

    And realize it's a matter of preference. This goes to everyone. No platform is "better" than the other because some will agree, but some will not. This something you fail to realize.

  • @Ringtail23 It's not even "slightly." I was playing Fallout 3 in native 1080p on high settings at 60 fps on a desktop I put together for $600. Weren't PS3's more expensive when they were first released? Hell people shelled out $700-$800 for the first PS3's.

  • @KugelSchwindler25 That seals the deal that you are a condescending dickhole. "OH MY CUSTOM BUILD AT 1080P HIGH SETTINGS BLAH BLAH". Did you not read what I said. It comes to down to PREFERENCE. The graphics on PC's are obviously going to be better but they're not so much better that you should trash what you currently like to play on.

    I understand where you come from though. When you build a PC, it becomes your pride and joy, sort of like a car. But honestly, you guys need to STFU sometimes.

  • @Ringtail23 Dude what are you talking about? I'm not trashing consoles at all, I was just pointing out that you can enjoy a much better gaming experience shelling out LESS money than what people shelled out for PS3's originally. But a lot of people don't know how to build comps and save that money unfortunately. They just go buy Alienware and get ripped off.

  • @Ringtail23 Price points aside, I just find it pretty ignorant not to acknowledge that good PC's are much more powerful machines than consoles. You originally said "only difference is resolution." I explained that this is not the case and then you change your point to something completely different.

    I'm not a PC elitist, I play Black Ops on 360 everyday because that's what my friends play on. I just know when to call people out on bullshit, that's all.

  • @KugelSchwindler25 PC's are certainly more powerful, but realize console's aren't running windows. Computer hardware has to deal with Windows, and the API's and the game itself. Consoles are running a much lighter operating system, so their hardware doesn't need to be as powerful.

    And yes there's a difference in graphic's, but it's not major. A few better textures, lighting, bloom here and there. It's nothing to cry or brag about. And the gaming experience is preference.

  • @Ringtail23 I guess I'm talking about performance, not just visuals. Take the CoD series which runs at 60 fps on consoles. Smooth as silk right? Now pop in Fallout NV or AC2 or any other console game and you'll find that the motion sucks compared to CoD. Who wouldn't prefer that their games ran at 60 fps like CoD does? PC does this.

    Why didn't Capcom release No Mercy mode on RE5 for consoles? Because they tried, and consoles just couldn't handle that many enemies on screen.

  • @KugelSchwindler25 Your a mindless fanboy. You obviously don't get it. Enjoy your PC.

  • @Ringtail23 I'm not a fanboy, I love my 360 as well. I just know that my games look much better and run twice as fast on my PC. As they should, I mean I paid $1,000 to build it. Why the hell can't you just admit that a console is way behind a good PC? You get what you pay for. You started this shit anyways.

    When I'm playing games at 60-120 fps instead of 30, with better visuals and more enemies on screen, I'll try to keep in mind that "the only difference is resolution." ;) 

  • @KugelSchwindler25 They're not necessarily "better". Most people will think 1920x1080 is a cheat code and FPS is a first person shooter. The difference in graphics is there, but most people will not notice it. Most people game on consoles because they're cheaper and you get the same games. In this economy not everyone is gonna pay 1000$ for the same games when you can get it for 200 or 300.

  • @Ringtail23 I'm not trying to say the PC is better. All I've been trying to say is that a well-equipped PC easily out-performs a console, as it should considering the cost. Although I do think 60 fps vs 30 is very noticeable, probably the first thing people notice, freaked my console friends out when they first tried it out.

    I just didn't want someone to get the wrong idea. Maybe someone who comes across this video is thinking about making a jump to PC. If they're looking for smoother

  • @KugelSchwindler25 in america, im sure 90% of people have pcs...id rather drop, say 900 bucks on a good PC, then sped 400 on a console, and another 400 on a pc.... 1 machine doing the job of 2....plus with the ability to also use it as a tv, dvd, and blueray player, and a means to play games at a much higher quality, and more multiplayer options...

  • @Pyromice I agree 100% man. Not to mention PC games are usually cheaper than consoles right off the bat at $50 instead of $60. And with Steam sales and such you can save a TON of money on games, as well as with cd key retailers. You can buy Crysis 2 right now for $30. Once you make the initial investment, you end up saving a LOT of money. Hook it up to a flat screen tv and you're all set. If only more people knew these things the PC community wouldn't be so small :(

  • @Usul573 Also although the PS3 came out a year later, both consoles have sold exactly 51m units.

  • just stop the ps3 is better xbox can sck my free online cok

    p.s. it is easier then heck to do a few brightness changes to make it look like one is

    better then the other

  • @29Mrbubbles

    What cok?

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  • I have an Xbox and an PS3. Both are fine systems. Shut up fanboys.

  • this vid is fucking retarded i dont care for quality view of game unless its completly fucked up where u cant see wats going on

  • shocking another multiplatform game that looks better on the 360

  • what the hack are tears?

  • xbox -> better live system, but paid

    PS3 -> werse live system, free

    Untill now, they're even. but in MY particular city, there is an other difference

    xbox -> games are waaay cheapier but with less quality in the case and on the game it self.

    PS3 -> games are expensive as hell and, although more organized and with better quality, not worth paying the price

    Thats the only reason i bought an Xbox. live in a city with the same price/quality difference? good for you. no? so they are as i said even

  • i prefer xbox but ps3 does have a few better things and slightly better graphics

  • just set RGB to Full on the ps3, and you're done, it will have far better contrast than the xbox version and it wont have a washed out look

  • gameboy?

  • havent the graphics of the ps3 been discussed already

  • PS3 better xbox sucks ass and balls

  • @PandaHenning Wii FTW.. joke

  • re-tard.....it's not based on the ps3 and xbox, it's on how you play it.....

  • Even though I prefer the Xbox I still believe this is bullshit.

  • XBOX RULES XBOX XBOX XBOX XBOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i like pc

    

  • ps3 ps3 ps3 ps3 ps3

  • mmmmmmm

    PC muajajajaj

  • xbox powns... -.-'

  • lol this is because the ps3 has better gear in it so that multi platform games have to made on the 360 and ported over to ps3.. hence all games like this will look better on the 360.. ya know because it was designed on the 360. if they did it on the ps3 first then ported it, the game wouldnt work on the 360. in terms of hardware the ps3 is better. this doesnt mean jack

  • U guys r all cranky because u know xbox is better

  • hei this isnt even played in the same light conitions you can see clearly that it is different hours of the day and that the light conditions are different so wat are you trying to proof wen they does not match

  • bullshit!on ps3 is just like on xbox and even better!i have played it in both consoles!you just have to have an hd tv and a HDMI cable!

  • 3:09 why do they kiss on ps3 and hug on xbox

  • @Anfieldb0y Thats a lagg cuz i have an xbox and they kiss.

  • Lens Of Truth.... Well this site is created by a bunch of idot fanboys having blind eyes in all occasions. They even judged that MASS Effect 2 looks better on xbox old version vs, PS3 new version !!!! :D

    Becouse of this idiotic attitude, I would not even believe this bitches even they say 2x2 = 4 !

    Loosers.

  • on the xbox side he put colour corretion you can tell hes just making xbox look better hes a xbox player

  • The difference between the two consoles is their hardware. Different performance, same graphics (unless it was a bad port.)

    Why would a developer make the graphics better for one system than for another?

    It's just normal maps, bump maps, textures, etc... In order for it to be different, the dev would have to change that.

    As for the colors being different, AC2 has random Time of days.

    Anyone who thinks graphics on one system is better than another is an idiot...Only the performance is different.

  • Hey wait a min.

    lensoftruth is a site , managed by xbox fanboys.

    They intend to pick the best visuals ( best light and angle) of xbox images, and worst of PS3's ( mainly motion artifacted and wrong angle of light) .

    There are some better ports for Xbox forsure. But the truth is not as the lensoftruth's point of view.

    They even said, xbox exclusives are better than PS3 !!! Can you believe that. This clearly shows how fanboys they are .. Dont read that site. It is for fanboys...

  • There might be some difference between ps3 and xbox graphics, but they don't matter by the time you're playing the game.

  • its the same shit all he did was changed the brightness and contrast . Another weak console bash from a xbox fanboy

  • Shadows on this game are a complete joke. Even on PC they are low res and appear right in front of you.

  • Woah. If you look too long the two screens start merging together.

    Guys! Guys! I think I've found the solution to the conflict! :D

  • Press y to kiss Press b to pull top off lol

  • PS3's picture is too overexposed

  • lol u just changed the ps3 colors u dumb ass xbox fan by the way bad editing :)

  • @deadpool7421 i hate xbox noobs

  • whats up with the ps3 colors?!

  • @ BirthBS xbox came before so it cant be à rippof

  • Color quality looks about the same and not to mention that Xbox is just a rip off of Ps3 it was mostly just made more around the function of gaming while Ps3 focuses on other things like blueray built in and all that other shit but either way im a hard time sony fan so Ps3 for me but it just comes down to if the game is good to play, not for which system makes it better

  • @BirthBS well said

    

  • i wonder if this person is a xbox fan.....

  • @AndriesAart yep

    

  • I a big ps3 person so one thing i have to say is that it looks like you guys want to make the xbox look better as you can see in 0:50 the time is completely the 360 looks better because florence is in day setting one more appealing then on the playstation side which is shady and less appealing but i do admit that xbox has points where it is better but the ps3 also has advantages over the xbox

  • @K00L9 the only reason y i don't have a ps3 is because wen it came out it was 600$. ps3 xbox 360 same shit to me

  • its a known fact ps3 is better.

  • you ps3ers need to face it..

    360 just owned on this game, you guys have ur games to own on...

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  • @Synyst3rg4t3

    Other way around really, this video shows that the 360 version's lighting is worse then the PS3. Take a look at the shadows and the night scene. The PS3's shadows are more realistically washed out where the 360's are more black and white.

    Also the 360 has no environmental lights during the night scene. It also does not have any of the dust or fog motes that you see in the ps3 version according to this video.

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  • All i have to say is...."F*CK THE POLICE" HA jk

  • This video is a load of shi*. Period. PS3! FTW!

  • @Technovor

    Well said ;D

  • PS3 Graphics are naturally darker. But still This is TOO Dark.

  • @mr5353 your an idiot if you actualy think thats how ps3 looks, i have it for my ps3 and it looks like the xbox side x10

  • DUDE THIS IS SO RIGGED the ps3 and xbox are the exact same...this is bull crap video editing

  • @Talhanator yer its just the brightness thats been changed

  • @Talhanator yeah i hate that everyones so ticked about the debate between ps3 and xbox 360. i mean, they're both great for the different stuff they have and i like them both.

  • @Talhanator to be honest, its the coding. xbox is easier to code, that means that sometimes. the xbox looks better, or they look excatly the same. for this game... i must say its not bull its the truth.

  • @Talhanator they aren't as much difference as everyone claims its all just for fanyboys

  • @Talhanator u mad?

  • i have this for ps3 and this looks fuzzy to me.

    on ps3 when someone farts you can see a cloud...

    yeah, its that clear

  • honestly, I read most comments here and all I can say is WHAT THE FUCK!?

    1st - when you play it you're not gonna have that comparison, you're only gonna have one console.

    2nd - besides brightness and a few small details here and there, it's the same damn game!

    3rd - honeslty, I'm not gonna buy a console because X game looks better on it. I'll buy one because I want the games on it

  • @ofnir123 though I get you on this, I think most people would like to know which one is best and believe me its the xbox... but I gave up the constant console one up battle and went for the far simpler unquestionable quality of an up to date PC.

  • @ofnir123 yeah

  • @ofnir123 Please children, let the grownups discuss this. Unless you know what a Shiraz is, then please get out. You simply aren't intelligent enough to look at the bottom of the screen and notice what a "framerate" is. The idea of percentages and frame tears must boggle your mind.

  • @CyborgNinja7 "children"? man you just made my day! you sir are my favorite clown!

    and BTW' how in the hell is knowing what something is related to intelligence? I mean, If you've never heard about something, it's not because you're dumb, it's because YOU NEVER FUCKING HEARD ABOUT IT!

    and I'm talking about the Shiraz, 'cause I know what the rest is.

    and besides, you still didn't get my first argument, which is: "IT'S THE SAME GAME WITH MINOR DIFFERENCES THAT YOU BARELY NOTICE ANYWAYS!"