Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead - Howard Roark Speech

[trustinstinct]

Can you see the collective thinkers posting here in anger !

[eenkmouse2311]

@trustinstinct Yes sir, they sure came out of the woodwork!

[whoo689]

Ayn Rand is a joke

May she always be forgotten so we can move on to a more humane society where things like affordable healthcare, social insurance for when the shit hits the fan, affordable education, etc. etc. are respected. Not her market-worshipping bs

[SouthParkBear]

Ayn Rand has an elitist mindset that rich people made it on their own merits, rather than corporate welfare and crony-capitalism-- just like from back home in Czarist Russia.

Like in her book "Atlas Shrugged" she has the Taggart family of railroad moguls-- which clearly shows she knows NOTHING of the American railroad, which was ONE BIG CORPORATE-WELFARE PROJECT!

In her Social-Darwinist mind, the smart should rule the dumb-- and she thinks she's the rulign elite, but she has produced ZERO!

[SouthParkBear]

Wssn't this all about that he didn't want to put a portico on his building as the city required?

Ayn Ran ignores that other people hold an interest in the appearance of a building, since they have to LOOK at it. She's a self-centered pseudo-intellectual who can't see her own limited intellect to the obvious flaws in her arguments, like a child who wants what they want, when they want it.

[Bolgernow]

The irony is IF you want your terms heard, you also WANT them accepted. If do not wish them to be accepted, WHY STATE THEM? You want to be a selfish, egoist, wealthy prick who hates poor people, do it. No artistic work ever needed to tell people to become MORE selfish. BUT THEY MORALLY FELT LIKE SHIT SO THEY TRIED TO JUSTIFY IT, & Rand tried to let them off the hook. You can't call selfishness "Great", or "Rich snobs mocking the poor" noble. It's IRONY...

[SouthParkBear]

@Bolgernow

That's Rand's problem: her entire philosophy is based on a false dichotomy between morality and immorality, and so she says self-interest is not immoral so it must be moral.

In reality it can be NEITHER; this was Jesus's point in saying to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you," vs. "that which you hate, do to no one."

In other words, morality is NOT an act of omission. According to Rand, the Good Samaritan is no better than the 2 priests who left the man to die.

[Bolgernow]

@SouthParkBear true. Objectivism fails the Prisoners Dilemma, the Volunteer's Dilemma, & many other logical concepts. In stating all Altruism is "evil" Rand unsuccessfully tried to change "selfish greedy pricks who mock the poor" into being the "height of human existence". See, even they don't LIKE being called a selfish asshole. But they must OWN it. In her world Daniel Planview from There Will Be Blood is a HERO. To rational folks, he's an irrational, evil, lying, soulless, looting cocksucker

[SouthParkBear]

@Bolgernow

You have to understand that Rand was an inverse-Marxist, i.e. she agrees with Marx that capitalism will lead to a few people holding all the property-- but she's an elitist bitch who says that's how it SHOULD be.

In reality that's absolute bullshit, since competition makes monopoly impossible; but she was a rich spoiled bitch when the Bolshevik revolution drove her family out of Russia, and so she has an elitist mentality.

"Objectivism" is simply pseudo-intellectualism.

[Bolgernow]

@SouthParkBear ha, excellent points. This really is logic pseudo-intellectualism light for greedy idiot morons. Supper good point about inverse Marxim. Well put!

[SouthParkBear]

@Bolgernow

The point is that EVERY pseudo-intellectual will claim to be "objective--" which is simply saying "I'm smart, you're dumb."

Her inverse-Marxism is clear from the fact that she took CREDIT for her social status and education, and NEVER had scientific evidence for her claims-- only ANECDOTAL, saying things like "Wall Street hippies and trust-fund babies--" never considering that these might be the EXCEPTION rather than the rule.

She was highly pseudo-intellectual, hardly "objective."

[Bolgernow]

@SouthParkBear other good points. I've noticed the "I'm smart you're dumb" in all Randroids I've come across. No person is an island. She claimed socially they were which is absurd. If that were the case, no one would be born, since they'd be labeled "parasites". She contended that selfishness mixed with the absence of altruism was the height of human achievement. It's the exact opposite in reality. Whatever she stated, you could almost count on the opposite to be statistically to be true

[SouthParkBear]

@Bolgernow

Another point: Rand's theories never stood the test of being taken to their logical conclusion; for her claim of "greed is good' doesn't stand up to her caveat of respecting others, except out of sociopathic pragmatism.

Rand also made logical errors, like saying "success always takes hard work, so if you work hard then you'll succeed--" an obvious fallacy between necessary and sufficient relationships.

This is why Rand led a cult-following, since they were dumber than she was.

[Bolgernow]

@SouthParkBear she modeled her main character Danny Renahan's "id" from a known sociopath murder named William Edward Hickman. The logical error you point out is right on the money! She tried to make hateful selfish people feel better out their shitty soulless existence. Alan Greenspan was in her cult. All & all she was one fry short of a happy meal

[SouthParkBear]

@Bolgernow

Well it's complicated, because Rand ENDORSED the same Social Darwinism, upon which Marx based his rejection of free-markets-- which in turn he blamed for elite oligarchy; he considered it "an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world."

So Marx and Rand were truly Tweedledum&Dumber.

[eclipce9]

unbelieveable that anyone insults something that they don't believe or can't find reason or use in that is truly sad and as Howard Roark said " we are aproaching a world in which i can not permit myself to live" the books/movie was not to spread the idea of selfishness but to know how man should to know that you are great to show that keeping your integrity is what man should truly do

[numberpuppet]

Its time to send the professor back to law school. We need true leadership not populist foolishness and wasteful decision making.

[swordguy27]

I suppose America is not one of those "great achievements" that come from "independent minds"

GG

[JCDentonCZ]

@swordguy27

Come back when you built a country and released it from the control of evil, powerful men and groups, corporations and banks.

America is a great achievement -- However, it's been taken over by said entities.

For America to continue to exist, there's a need for a second revolution. With the internet and free flow of information, the possibility of a true republic is now truly possible.

They gave us the basics; now we must be the architects to finish the work they started.

[pouyan242]

Rand was a stupid jewish cunt

[jayfromeire]

that vid by Ayn Rand... funny enough Ayn rand was the mistress of one of the Rothschild's

and instructed by him wrote a book called atlas shrug which has apparently got masonic

messages in it after the first 200 pages..

[mathiastheok]

Also did you know that if you burp, sneeze and fart at the same time you'll die!

[librarianeric]

Right wing libertarians like Ayn Rand, Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul and the rest of their ilk espouse a philosophy which, taken to its logical conclusion, results in a dictatorship of the business class. They want to vest all socio-economic and political power into the hands of the few, not the many. For them, personal freedom and individualism is reserved for those who can afford it. They despise anything resembling democracy. They know nothing of freedom except contempt for it.

[advancethinking]

You're absolutely right about democracy- because democracy is the enslavement of the minority- a constitutional republic does not (what the U.S. is). You're wrong with everything else. Those who cannot afford individualism and personal freedom do not understand their power as human beings- the fire of their minds. They may be incompetent too. Economic power is privilege and it is earned by the thinking person. It is open to anybody who will do this. Rand was not a libertarian, and loved freedom.

[Dodec84]

A man that enjoys sitting next to a river the whole of his life could be as smart as the world's richest person.

Don't confuse fortune with intelligence.

[urdaddy4321]

@Dodec84

And dont confuse fortune with happiness. Some of the poorest people I know are the happiest in life.

[duffer29]

you can have all the personal freedom you like, just don't think you deserve it at my expense. i doubt you've read anything by rand, you've mangled her ideas so badly, but from what you said i have to assume your idea of "freedom" means free stuff.

and you'll never be free as long as you're dependant.

[Jcolinsol]

You are speaking from a perspective within a specific model of the world.

Though I think that the values of liberalism, mutuality, humanitarianism, collectivism are creative values, essential to a stable society, the use of government to promote those values is a poor strategy.

So live those values if you value them, but do not force your values onto another individual through violence or coercion, that is to say, do not use the state to promote your values.

Recognize the truth of Anarchism.

[Fawksian21]

All hail the champion of deregulation, without whom none of these corporate bailouts would be necessary.

[eenkmouse2311]

Who, Bill Clinton?!

The bailouts are NOT "necessary", let those companies die. Now the airlines and the Big Three auto makers want help, too. Great, let's just nationalize ALL of them and call each other "comrade".

Heil der Fuhrer, Barack Obama! Heil Obama! Sieg Heil!

[Fawksian21]

Oooh, isn't that intelligent. Lets compare Obama to Hitler, something that hasn't been done with him or any other politician in recent memory. It's all so clear now! Obama's Hitler!

And as for your genius economic advice, large amounts of citizens losing vast amounts of money will just do wonders for the economy, now won't it? But to hell with all those people. They probably deserve what they get for picking the wrong company.

[eenkmouse2311]

Actually, the first ones to notice the similarities between Obama and Hitler were the ultra-liberal New York Times, and they're on his side!

I don't put my money in banks, and I don't buy stock. I don't gamble, and that's what playing the stock market is, is gambling. If you're not ready to lose what you got, then don't gamble or let anyone else gamble with it.

Bailouts are like asking the government for help because you lost your savings in a crap game.

[Fawksian21]

Oh I see. Since you were 'smart enough' to not mess around with banks, that makes everyone else suckers by comparison. Typical reasoning from someone enamored with Rand. Never mind that the vast majority of people do use banks and that they'll no doubt be affected by this current dilemma. As the Holy Ayn taught: me, me, me and everyone else can go to hell.

As for Obama being Hitler, it's a ludicrous argument. NY Times is nowhere's near a liberal bastion, except to demented neo-cons.

[eenkmouse2311]

"Typical reasoning from someone enamored with Rand."

Actually I know very little about her. I found this clip on the web and liked it, so I posted it. I've noticed since then that there seems to be some sort of "nerd war" going on between people that like her and people who don't. Leave me out of it.

I see you like to go straight to the ad hominem attacks and insults whenever someone disagrees with you. Typical Obamoron. Fuck off, douchebag.

[mareboy113]

I have to agree with you. I never read any of her work because the first I saw was Atlas Shrugged and by its thickness I thought someone tried to make a book bulletproof for whatever reason. However I really enjoyed this clip because it spoke to my own inclinations of what being free truly is.

[cookiesonsteve]

it is bulletproof!

[gottalivefree]

Ayn was a genius!

[XordLenu]

TIME FOR AYNARCHY

[kevindolan40]

horseshit heaped upon horseshit. Ayn Rand is not wise.

[ComputerSleuth2]

As a statement in its own right, this is truly powerful. I have not yet seen the movie, but after watching and hearing this speech, I will.

[Conza88]

Not exactly good acting..

The book destroys, Howard Roark deserves a better actor.. (its known he didn't have his heart in it)

[eenkmouse2311]

true enough,"High Noon" will always be his finest hour...i like it because of the content...so,who would've done better?Jimmy Stewart?Cary Grant?Spencer Tracy?

[lantzn]

Considering it's Objectivism I'd say. Bela Lugosi

[nonamist]

love what he says. excellent clip. thanks for putting it up!

[ClitCommander102488]

You all partificate and bicker with each other as if you've never even read the novel.

[ClitCommander102488]

You guys bicker and partificate to eachother as if you never even read the book.

[shovelcharge]

The libertarian Ron Paul rejects Ayn Rand's ideas of Objectivism. You should not pretend that they are allies. Ron Paul lost. Don't let Ayn Rand lose with him.

[eenkmouse2311]

Dr Paul named his firstborn son after Ayn Rand...thank you for blessing us with your intriguing commentary and profound insight,Professor!

[shovelcharge]

so, RP is an Objectivist because he supposedly named his son after Rand. That makes absolutely no sense and evades the issue.

A little bird told me that his name is Randal, with no connection to Ayn Rand.

[eenkmouse2311]

i have no idea whether he's an objectivist or not...i DO know three things,though:1)i've never heard him CLAIM to be an objectivist2)he's a great admirer of Rand's

3)his son's name is Rand,after Ayn Rand,and NOT Randal(if you're gonna try to start a rumor,at least SPELL IT RIGHT!!!idiot!)...

and yet a FOURTH thing i'm absolutely certain of,is that you are a troll who goes to Ron Paul pages and tries to instigate infighting amongst the followers

[drummergrl225]

You have successfully evading the issue again, as Shovelcharge stated.

This is an Ayn Rand page that is being leeched by a libertarian. That couldn't be anymore obvious.

[eenkmouse2311]

no,you idiot,this is MY page!!!...I AM THE ONE WHO POSTED THIS VIDEO!..."successfully evading the issue",WHAT issue?an issue some troll DICTATED to me?where on this page does it say"ron paul believes in objectivism"?

in fact,where on this page does it say that I myself am an objectivist?did it not ever occur to any of you douchebags that maybe,just MAYBE,i found the clip somewhere and posted it because i LIKE it?

in fact,until i the day i posted it i had never even heard of the fountainhead

[eenkmouse2311]

if your profile gave any indication that you were a "real" person,and you actually had a valid(though opposing) opinion,i would actually debate you...but as there's no doubt what you are(some stooge either with an agenda and/or on a payroll),consider yourself blocked...later,einstein

[dcgc34]

Drummergrl is correct in the fact that it is improper to praise Ron Paul on an Objectivist video, even if you created the video. Ron Paul is opposed to Objectivism, and Ayn Rand herself said that people like Ron Paul hurt her spreading of ideas most. Nice video though, i will ignore the Ron Paul garbage.

[eenkmouse2311]

maybe it would be improper if i knew what the hell you people were even talking about...as i explained,i put the ron paul stuff on ALL my videos,every single one...am i to take it off this one because a buncha fuckin' dorks got some kinda nerd-based ideological conflict with it?...i posted this because i like it and like what it says...AND i like ron paul...so fuck you people,get over yourselves

[infey]

Right on.

[thetenia]

This is the dutch intellect, taken from a direct unaltered quote from this fool :16 million devided by 100k is not 1600 YES IT IS! 16 times 160 is 1.6 million STUPID. and as I pointed out he can't even spell "divide" much less do it correctly.

[jpbalkenende]

But now I'm truly gone thanks for sharing with the world how much you suck at math and how pathetic you are in general.

[thetenia]

380 sorry, I win you're done. Can't spell, or add, and you say 16 100 thousand groups are the same as 380. Yet still you "tipe"

[thetenia]

Oh and for christ sake: 380 times 100000 is 38,000,000 million. Get a calculator for the love of humanity. million has 6 zeros 380,000,000.

[jpbalkenende]

Besides your pathetic teenage quality insults the USA does NOT HAVE 380 MILLION PEOPLE. It's 303 million at the moment look at the cencus FFS. And you are the one who says 6/100k is the same as 6/3800 never explained that one.

[jpbalkenende]

"Thought you'd see it my way. Oh yeah, what nation kills political rivals in public. The netherlands..that is right. Very tolerant. Anyone can start a business there right? right? oh yeah, wrong, they can't. Everyone can save money there right? oh yeah, wrong. Anyone who murders a girl is arrested there right? oh yeah, wrong, they aren't. Anyone who is assaulted can return fire with a legally pruchased weapon right? oh, wrong again. All done now? Good." That is what you typed idiot.

[thetenia]

HAHAHAHAHAH he went back and altered it....jesus christ this boy is done.

[jpbalkenende]

Secondly I've never seen so many mistakes made in a single attempt at math. The USA has 300 million people not 380 (not really a math mistake but still. 16 million devided by 100k is not 1600 but 160. And then you KEEP the 0,1 for some reason. NO this means we have a total of 160 * 0.9 murders. You fail at math.. Completely.

[jpbalkenende]

When I tiped 0,1 I meant 1 (which is supposed to be 0.9 but you made another mistake). And you DEVIDE instead of multiply at the end. Again you fail at math

[thetenia]

"devide" hahahahahahahaha

[jpbalkenende]

I can speak Dutch, English, Spanish and a bit of German and French. And you have the arrogance to laugh about a spelling mistake? You are worse at math than our 8 year olds here.

[thetenia]

I can speak ,mandarin, khmer, english, you can't speak any of the ones you do claim to well. Nor spell, nor add, nor round off(hint .9 is 1 in math) You claim to be done, you aren't. You claim to get alond and be tolerant, you aren't. You are a profane little man, hiding online. You are too frightened by immigrants to actually talk to one. I could see you in the United States confronted by black men. Crapping your pants. You're all done though, and have been. Watch him keep going.

[jpbalkenende]

Answer this one how can 1/100000 be the same as 1/1600 which your math has lead to. You are a complete idiot.

[thetenia]

You DO worse at math, not you are. I schooled you, since you don't know how to round, 5.9 is 6 .9 is 1 that elludes you. Can't spell, have no life or friends, and you are a coward. Say ONE thing like that to someone face to face. Hell you can't even get a girlfriend.

[jpbalkenende]

There is simply no way that you are more than 12 years old. Have fun working at Mickey D's for the rest of your life because you are a complete retard and you are NOT supposed to round in Math before you have a solution. You should only round the solution you fucktard.

[thetenia]

"I "tiped" hahahahahahahahaha.

[jpbalkenende]

Pathetic.

Internet spelling Nazi coming from someone who can't even do math. Against someone who doesn't even have English as his native language.

[thetenia]

see, STILL going, after he said he was done. Now he is still "tiping".

[jpbalkenende]

To be honest I'm just fascinated by how stupid somebody can be. It's like watching a train wreck. Guilty pleasure I suppose.

[thetenia]

see, still there. Says "fucktard" whatever than means, yet I work at mickey d's? whatever that is. In his world 16 million is to be compared to 380. In his world, where he never counted a profit versus a margin, everything is simple. Totally owned, by me. Stick to flowers boy. Now reply, like a good little slave. I'll make this kid dance like he is in the red light district. Watch him try to copy what I say.

[jpbalkenende]

It is PER 100K get that trough your head we are comparing 100k to 100k total populations have nothing to do with it if you want to compare total pop you have to use total homicides. My god you are stupid.

[thetenia]

and how many more groups of 100K DO WE HAVE THAN YOU. My god you are stupid. So if we say 100k that changes everything. If I say I give someone 5 percent of every hundred thousand and I make 16 of them versus 380 of them which is more? hmm? jesus you are truly that slow. Never ran a business have you? What am I saying, you're dutch. You kill little girls, then get killed by real men from other nations.

[jpbalkenende]

No you are a complete retard. You are the on that says 6/100k is the same as 6/3800. You are using math that if used correct would give you total murders but that would be 6 TIMES 3800. There are 3800 groups of 100k in the USA each of them have 6 murders so 6 times 3800 you fucking idiot.

[thetenia]

more cussing, more misspellings, no life, no girl, no guts. 380 million = 16 million hahahahahahahahahaha that is what they teach in the netherlands hahahahahahahahaha that and slip girls ruffies.

[thetenia]

see, you now deny that you said 16 times 100 thousand equals 16 million you are a complete idiot coward. I KNEW you wouldn't own up to it. Hear are your misspelled words :16 million devided by 100k is not 1600 read them closely YES IT IS as even you admit and I did say 6/3800 which is LESS than 1 /1600 you completely owned coward.

[thetenia]

jesus christ, you can't even spell "divide" And 16 million DIVIDED by 100k is 1600, 1.6 million is 160. You just showed complete stupidity. and argued just as I said like a loon. Showing me correct. Hell you can't even round off .9 to 1 which is what you do. Or seem to understand you have a fraction of our population. Like I said, stick to growing tulips. It's more your speed. DEVIDE hahahahahahahahaha

[jpbalkenende]

160*100,000 = 16,000,000.... You are the dumbest person I've ever seen on youtube... I'm done with you and your level of stupidity I simply do not have the patience to educate you. Please go back to school.

[jpbalkenende]

One free lesson: It is 0,9 per 100k not 0,9 per 1600 (or 160) which you try to prove with your fuzzy math. By your math 1/100k is the same as 1/1600. Please end yourself. Thank you.

[jpbalkenende]

Let me spell it out again for you since you obviously have a problem with numbers. For every hundred thousand people there is 1 murder (slightly less) in the Netherlands. For every hundred thousand people in the USA there are 6 murders (slightly less). Do you finally understand?

[thetenia]

Um NOOO let me spell it out, You have NO real minority groups with which to assimilate. The one minor one you allowed in to do the real work, you treat poorly. The murder rate for the united states varies wildly from urban to rural, you have no such rural places in that pitifully tiny places. To get around crime you legalize what you can't stop anyway. You, for your tiny populace still have more murders than the U.S. sorry they don't explain things that well there. Grow more flowers.

[jpbalkenende]

The reason we have trouble assimilating Muslims is because we are so tolerant to them. We basically have said to them that it is totally okay to hate the West if they want. And murder rates in Urban are HIGHER you idiot. So that gives you even less of an excuse to have a murder rate that is 6 times ours. But have you finally understood how stats work? You are truly incredibly dumb never seen something like it.

[thetenia]

see above math, ask ANY professor, if you can find one, which fraction is higher 1 /16 or 6/38. Sorry you fail to see we have hundreds of millions of people more. That would basically be like comparing our murder rate to China's or India's. Sorry you aren't too bright.

[jpbalkenende]

You are a complete idiot. The numbers 0,9 and 5,9 are already proportional. You are working with total numbers in which case you need total homicides which would be 147 for us and 18,000 (eighteen thousand) for you. Idiot

[thetenia]

Let me talk real slow for our government educated friend, U.S. Pop = 380 million divided by 100000 = 3800 Dutch pop equals 16 million divided by 100000 = 16000 if you average 1 per hundred thousand that gives you 1 /1600 that is a HIGHER number than 6/3800. Okay? Learn math.

[jpbalkenende]

I'm not a gun rights activist. And looking at the USA murder rate I'm really not jealous. Especially since we have a whole bungload of unhealthy stuff we can do that would land you in prison in the states so if I'm ever in a sadistic mood I'll do that.

[thetenia]

and another thing, lets name the country that has a political party that murdered a member of it's rival party in the last 100 years. Is it A: The Netherlands, or B: The United States. If you said the former, you win a free shot of heroin.

[jpbalkenende]

That's quite simply a lie. You have no idea what you're talking about. Tell me by which political party was Fortuyn murdered?

[thetenia]

green party

[jpbalkenende]

First of all BS. Secondly the VMO which he started was not a political party.

[thetenia]

first of all, it was, his supporters were elected. Period. secondly :the Dutch-Somali politician and writer, is different. Hirsi Ali has been under Dutch police protection since 2002, when her public comments about mistreatment of women in the Dutch Muslim community and references to herself as "secular" led to death threats in Holland.

[jpbalkenende]

His supporters were never elected you retard. And you Americans are so paranoid that you live in gated communities. Never mind the protection politicians have (how many hundreds of millions does a Bush visit security bill cost again?).

[thetenia]

Thought you'd see it my way. Oh yeah, what nation kills political rivals in public. The netherlands..that is right. Very tolerant. Anyone can start a business there right? right? oh yeah, wrong, they can't. Everyone can save money there right? oh yeah, wrong. Anyone who murders a girl is arrested there right? oh yeah, wrong, they aren't. Anyone who is assaulted can return fire with a legally pruchased weapon right? oh, wrong again. All done now? Good.

[eenkmouse2311]

you're arguing with a troll,but you're making some pretty good points!

[thetenia]

True, there is no reason for someone like that person to even BE looking at a video like this,save to cause trouble. I am always shocked that a country that sells flowers and heroin is proud of anything. They will talk about "free", but never mention they are taxed into oblivion. They talk about tolerance, when 81 percent of their population is Dutch, another 6 is German. They allow a few nonwhites to dig ditches I suppose. Or be prostitutes. Great country though...

[jpbalkenende]

You are crazy. The reason we now have problems with immigration is because we have pampered them. Told them not to integrate and gave them money if they didn't feel like working. Our drug usage isn't higher as in the states despite some of it being decriminalized. Tells you something about which of the two cultures is civil.

[jpbalkenende]

LOL we kill political rivals? It's an American tradition baby! Lincoln, Kennedys and MLK ring a bell? If not there's a list of 50 others on wikipedia. Since the founding of the USA our body count of political figures is a massive 2 if you look on the same list. As for the rest I know you are an ignoramus but we are not nor have ever been communist. As for guns we prefer the freedom to live and smoke some weed if you really want to but if you are really inclined you can get a license.

[jpbalkenende]

Oh and as for murdering girls that was Aruba doesn't fall under our police jurisdiction. But still since you like digging holes for yourself:

USA murder rate: 5.9 Netherlands: 0,9..

Thank you come again.

[thetenia]

Netherlands population, less than 1 percent of United States, 0.9 per 16 million, is GREATER ammount than 5.9 for 300 MILLION, get it? Good.

[jpbalkenende]

You fucking idiot... Do you have any idea what murder rates are? They are measured per 100.000 people. So in 2007 we had 147 murders IIRC and the USA with a murder rate of about 6 should have about 18.000.

[jpbalkenende]

'ammount' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[thetenia]

Mlk not a politician. Lincoln, tyrant. Of course that is history, in the netherlands it happened four years ago, period. You have LESS than 10 percent of nonwhites in your country, that equals no tolerance. You kill your ambition with drugs, and fairytales. You also trade in slaves, yes bulgarian, cambodian, laos, all end up in the russian ran sex districts. Period. You lose.

[jpbalkenende]

In that case we had 1 such murder since 1776. Again we do better in that respect. You have no idea what tolerance is it has nothing to do with the amount of non whites. The confederate South had more non whites than we do. Does that mean that they were tolerant? No you fucking idiot. If you want to talk liberty gay marriage, hookers and drugs fit into that picture and that's what your boy king Paultard is advocating. I don't do drugs btw and the red light district is full of American tourists.

[thetenia]

as is typical with the lower mind, you resort to profanity and name calling. You have no nonwhites, therefore you have nothing to be tolerant of. get it. Your murder rate, by your own admission is 3 times that of the U.S. You have sex slave trade in your country, your main export is flowers. You argue online, because you basically have nothing else going for you. Anything else? Oh yes, I win again.

[jpbalkenende]

Uh our murder rate is 3 times that of the US? Can you fucking read? 0.9 vs 5.9. We have 1/6th the murder rate. You Americans can't make up your mind either. First we are flooded by Muslims and now we are completely white. 20% of our population isn't Dutch but it all doesn't matter because those figures say nothing about tolerance. Wildly regarded as the most culturally/racially tolerant nations on the planet are the Netherlands and Scandinavia (and this has it's drawbacks as well).

[jpbalkenende]

Since you are Paulite with a reading problem I'll tell you another stat you might like. In 2008 our GDP per capita is also higher than the states. Guess we win again. To summarize 1/6th the murder rate, far less prisoners (per capita), more money, more equality (averages are useless if 1% of the people has 40% of the wealth as in the States) and only a single dead politician since the founding of the USA (compared to the dozens that you have).

[jpbalkenende]

I have to applaud you though for your ethical flexibility. Quite astounded how you come up with these things. The USA took loads of black slaves thus they are more tolerant. Genius.

[thetenia]

The DUTCH east india company founded the slave trade. Genius.

[jpbalkenende]

No they didn't. They did engage in it though. But the difference between them and the USA is that in the USA it was the average person who engaged in the immoral act of holding slaves a 100 years after we abolished slave trade no less. In the Netherlands the WIC was a ruling elite the Dutch people didn't have a grip on never mind that the Dutch people themselves didn't have any slaves.

[thetenia]

You have sex slaves now. sorry, still trading in them. Look up any statistic on it. And um buddy 1/16 is HIGHER than 6 /380 sorry bout that schooling you have over there.

[jpbalkenende]

It is 0.9 for every 100.000 you idiot. You really are the most stupid person I've ever seen post on youtube. America has 18 thousand murders per 300 million per year(no idea where you get that 380 number from).

[thetenia]

summarize, three times per capita the murder rate. Sex slave workers, 60 thousand march on the capital for workers rights they don't have. 4 percent unemployment, yes and vastly underpaid and underappreciated, hence the march

[jpbalkenende]

ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD? We have 1/6th the per capita murder rate stop lying.. Shit. And the USA has a 5% unemployment stop shooting yourself in the foot buddy (never mind that the USA only counts people who apply as unemployed).

[thetenia]

Uh read the stats, 81 percent dutch, 6 percent german 2 PERCENT NONWHITE 10 percent other meaning french, whomever else. all done now?

[jpbalkenende]

Has nothing to do with tolerance. Is the deep South the most tolerant part of your country? (no!). Done now?

[thetenia]

Dutch society became, and remains, bitterly divided in the wake of the Van Gogh murder. Some of Hirsi Ali's compatriots decided it was time to address the issues of women, Islam and integration head on. The Dutch writer Leon de Winter, a defender of Hirsi Ali, talks openly about his country's failure to integrate Muslim immigrants, attributing the problem to the Dutch "guilt complex" All done copying me? And american slang I might add, as you have no real cultural impact. Ever been to the south?

[jpbalkenende]

So make up your mind. Are we intolerant of Muslims or too tolerant? And Dutch society is nowhere near as divided as American society. Our political parties ultimately aren't that different.

[thetenia]

You make up YOUR MIND. You said you are the tolerant ones. Articles from around the world and the muslims themselves say otherwise. Sorry, facts are stubborn things. This guy is so easy to drive crazy eenk. "FUCCCCCK!" is his man reply. Like a child. Watch he CAN'T stop. This is his life. Think he would EVER talk this nonsense in person? Of course not. Watch him keep going now. His next post will basically say "Oh I am lol blah blah blah" his crazed responses say otherwise.

[jpbalkenende]

No you want us to address cultural problems in Islam. That by definition means being intolerant to their culture (I agree with you on that one though we can't let everything slide) so you are the on contradicting yourself now saying we are TOO tolerant.

[jpbalkenende]

'pruchased' HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[thetenia]

"pruchased" which I didn't type. Thanks I win again. See him copy me? I CALLED IT before he even did it. See how one dimensional the little brains are?

[jpbalkenende]

You typed that idiot. You are a complete retard at math and stats in general.

[thetenia]

sorry, never typed either. Show it. But then you are a liar. 'I'm done with this" still here. "We tolerate everyone" But then the muslims say way different. Of course they kill the dutch, everyone should.

[jpbalkenende]

You typed that six hours ago. You can look at all comments ctrl+f "pruchased" and you find it. Same of ammount. I was being sarcastic with these responses to highlight what a retard you are. Seriously if you can't argue people start doing petty shit like pointing out spelling mistakes.

[thetenia]

didn't type 6 hours ago, sorry. Try again, sad you would like that awfully though. "same OF ammount' hahahahahahaha jesus even your lies show you as an idiot.oh, wait "if you can't argue people start doing" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Kogerii]

Charismatic men are as brain cells forming a group mind for which other humans are other tissues. Pheromones, language, ect. are analogous to the signals that travel along axioms.

[Kogerii]

These creations are valued, in the speech, as the glories of mankind. A creation could meet all other stipulations posited -save seeming glorious to other men eventually- and be madness. Ayn Rand uses mankind, a collective, as the final arbiter of a work's worth.

[jpbalkenende]

The patriot act doesn't apply to me and no I don't like it, serves you idiots well for electing such a douche. However your fear mongering about collective this and socialist that is simply unfounded. By all standards we have a bigger gov than the USA and are more socialist. Yet we have less corruption less power for the executive and more civil liberties and a more informative and less biased press. We've had all these things for quite a while as well.

[notosneaks]

...A Tonic for the Troops!!  Thanks so much for sharing.. Our ancestors paid for our freedom with their blood-let's be worthy of their gift and sacrifice. LoL.

[jpbalkenende]

WOW Paultards, Randroids and loonbertopians are some of the most paranoid people this side of Jebus.

[matrixm777]

A terrorist can't take away your freedom. This can only be done from the inside.

Our freedom is at stake America... We should fight to defend it.

Elect Ron Paul and help protect our sovereignty...

[diamondman007]

Exposing the false left-right paradigm even then! Wonderful! That was when Hollywood had had at some patriotic feelings for America.

[RoninGutts]

Nice.

[itsmesunny]

a magnificant speech and is truly the essence of a magnificant man - dr. ron paul!

the fountainhead is a terrific movie.

get it and watch it.

dr. ron paul for president of the usa!

[itsmesunny]

rent the fountainhead or get it from your library through inter library loan.......it's old, it's black and white and it's terrific!

the message is timeless. and all i can do is relate this magnificant speech to a magnificant man- dr. ron paul!

[sandman4224]

Nice find :) - into my favorites!

[matrixm777]

Wow!! I wish I had the chance to memorize this and quote a version of it at the caucus.

Thanks for the video.

[matrixxx123456789]

Great vid... ty for sharing!

RP08!

[mircea104]

Learn the truth and the truth will make you free !