thanks for contributing to an alert citizenary... not justifying, but the reality is that these soldiers are young & easily influenced... they're trained to kill & brainwashed to devalue the life of the "enemy" based on what I, and many others believe, is a lie... all indicators point to an economic benefit for the long reach of the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about ... It is time for an alert citizenry to begin to vote with dollars ... forgive & believe peace is now
@ilindah voting is mind game, nobody voted for anything ever in history, The common man doesnt vote for anything, he doesnt have a right to vote honestly. I love ron paul but I know unless he become a magical fairy and sprays magic pixy dust, the world will become a better place, all we need is ron pauls pixy dust, and his wand will wave away all evil amongst the corporations
@itsadeadmansparty he may not be able to wave a magic wand to eradicate the whole system overnight but he sure has inspired the american people (and the WORLD) to open their friggen eye sockets, do their own research and use their own brain...before they make a decision about their own well being plus he has highlighted the brilliance of the constitution and its basic meaning for the people which is a great start :)
@ilindah Im sorry I didnt properly explain what I was saying. Nobody actually votes for anything, That is what im trying to explain to you. There is no such thing as Voting, Im sorry you were raised to believe that it is real but it is not real. Do you understand now? If you use a digital voting machine you are 100% voting into thin air. there is no proof of any votes,at all,its all very much a mind game, Just wait 20 years, you will see earth has gone no where and humanity still asleep
@itsadeadmansparty lol you are right this "democracy" is a mockery. the voting process is more for "formality" sake but is manipulated PERIOD. IF ron paul gets in or not...his message is alive and gaining momentum. the people have had enough...and if you doubt that, thats ok too. how bout that?
Are you retarded? If snipe has served in iraq and never comitted a war crime then that proves that not everyone from the usa is a terrible monster. Yes its wrong to do the things that AFEW soldiers hav done but stop judging many on the few. Ur being just much of a dick catagorizing the whole american army calling them facist as a white skin head is saying all nigers steal and rape. Its people like u who ruin any possibility of an interlectual conversation about todays power governments!
Sooo... US soldiers went into a house, and for shits and giggles, shot 5 kids and an old person; and NOBODY had any objections? How gullible can you possibly be. Just because it's on wikileaks does not mean it is true.
My sister's husband told Me stories Abotu iraq And how he Killed Innocent Woman And children... It wasnt his Fault It hurts him deeply But What are you Supposed To do when The Man Tells You To Blow Something up.... Do say no... no you Take you Orders... Its fucked up... i know... Ive seen what happends To a person... Dont Blame The troops Its The Government that Has control Over Them....
@x4aperfecttool I wouldn't be so quick to remove all blame from the individual soldiers, they're still responsible for their decisions and actions, no matter what they've been ordered to do. That being said, mistakes are made in the stress of the moment. However, executing unarmed people, if that is in fact what happened, goes far beyond the level of a mistake made under stress.
Disgusted by this report, although not entirely surprised. There is always lingering doubt about the reports that come out of the media during times of war, and of course they are always leveraged towards a justification for the troops being there. However I have a question maybe someone can answer for me... If this house was in fact struck from the air, why would an autopsy have been conducted on these people? Does an autopsy get performed for every death in Iraq?
@390bullitt1968 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,HOW CAN THEY FIGHT AND DISTROY AN ENTIRE COUNTRY AND KILL EVEN PUPPIES AND GOATS?,IS THEIR WAY OF HAVING FUN?,AND OF COURSE THEY ARE ALL "HEROES" BULLSHIT! FOR ONE AMERICAN WHO DIES,100 IRAKIES DIE WOMEN,MAN AND CHILDREN,BABIES FOR GOD SAKE!.THIS WAR IS A JOKE,LIKE IF YOU HAVE A DOG FIGHT BETWEEN A POODLE AND A PIT BULL,I WOULD LIKE TO SEE USA FIGHTING WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY WITH THE SAME POWER IN ARMAMENT AND INTELLIGENCE,THEY WOULDNT LAST! USA =KILLERS!
These children they are talking about....the oldest child was 5 years old....shot point blank in the head. The youngest was 7 MONTHS. My aren't the Americans merciful.
The story you(TDC) stated was not complete. The US troops also raped a girl that was in the house. That was the reason they had to kill the other people in the house.
war is disgusting there is no honor in it anymore, if there ever was, I pray for a day that we as humankind can grow beyond war as a way of solving anything. It seems barbaric & not in a good or awesome way either. But what is more disgusting is that some people at the top are greatly profited by war... War is a means of having power over others, it incurs great debt & being in debt is to give up our own power. May we see the error of engaging ourselves in this lowly form of degradation,
I'm a former Marine and I was in Iraq for over a year and a half. I myself never killed anyone while I was there and I only saw 2 Iraqis killed. They were adult men and only one of them was killed by US forces. One was blown to smithereens by insurgents when he ran over an IED meant for my fellow Marines and I. The other was shot when he rammed the bus he was driving into my HMMWV, barely missing me. My experience in Iraq is typical. Child killers aren't US troops, they're psychotic murderers.
@Snipe4261 I believe you. Doesn't this incident sound premeditated, though? Handcuffs, executions, and an airstrike to cover up the evidence? I'm not saying it's American soldiers in general, but something systemic, at some level, involving leadership and a number of people. This had too many elements to be a few bad apples.
Semper fi, though, seriously. I know that a great many soldiers are the real deal: Killers, yes, but also intrinsically moral and loyal. Don't want you to think I'm hatin'
@sillygames Yes, regrettably I have to agree that there are systematic problems that could lend to the commission of crimes like this. It's not an inevitability but if herd mentality, poor leadership, and peer validation combine with the pain of combat loss, fear, and adrenaline it can create a perfect storm resulting in atrocities. I'm proud of my service to my country but I feel like my oath was violated and taken advantage of by government leadership when I was ordered to go to Iraq.
@sillygames Circumstances outside of their control may conspire against a group of soldiers but thats no excuse for them giving up their humanity. They all know how they're supposed to act and all it takes to prevent something like this is one level head and a sufficiently loud objection.
@Snipe4261 This is why, while I am in full support of anyone who takes the job of getting in the way of bullets and bombs meant for peaceful people, I also appreciate dissenters such as Oathkeepers and Wikileaks. It will be a sore day when you are ordered to take away my right to know what you are being ordered to do. I trust you will do the right thing.
@Snipe4261 totally agree, and to take it a step further, the culprits should be tried as war criminals, as the USA would be doing to someone from Iraq, Libya, etc for committing the same atrocities!
You're right. We should'nt paint all US troops with this color.
The problem is, the events were carried out by psychos, then systematically covered up by by the military. The psychos were given an opportunity to carry out these crimes, then supported by an official action, without much fear of retribution.
@itachiitachi1946 You don't know anything about me friend, nothing except the fact that I used to be a US Marine and that I deployed to Iraq when I was ordered to do so. If I admitted to being, for example, a former soldier in the Nazi SS then I think your jumping to conclusions about my character might ALMOST be justified, but the US Marines don't even begin to compare to the Nazi SS or the true believers of any other TRUE fascist organization, so you're not justified. Also, you're a troll.
@Snipe4261 u occupied another country.u took away the freedom from ppl.u destroyd the families& future of ppl of iraq,u helped the corporations to steal the oil of a foreign country,u violated human rights such as...FREEDOM&respect of others,ur a brainwashed tool of ur gov&ur job is killing ppl&following ordersUR A FUCKING FASCIST NAZI AND PPL LIKE U MAKE THE WORLD MISERABLE.AS I SAID BEFORE...DO HUMANITY A FAVOR AND GO KILL URSELF.and no im not urfriend.id never be friend with a criminal like u
@itachiitachi1946 You know nothing friend. You're attributing things to me that I have never done and don't support or believe in. Your accusations are broad, unsupported, and largely baseless. You are taking decisions and actions that you BELIEVE the FORMER leadership of the US government is guilty of and accusing me of having personally made those decisions and taken those actions when in reality I am far removed from all of that. You're trying to lay blame on me that I can't possibly accept.
@Snipe4261 (2)u served that cause(killing ppl destroying freedom occupying countrie etc)and thus ur responcible.GET LOST U NAZI I DONT LIKE FASCIST PPL LIKE U.
@Snipe4261 im not ur friend.u call me a troll cause i told u that ur a criminal.so when some1 says the truth to u that ur a criminal for killing pl and occupying countries then u automaticaly call him a troll.if u were smart ud be something else other than a mere tool doing attrocities.u fucking nazi criminal u have the nerve to justify ur crimes and ur so ok with that. ppl like u r the epitomy of evil and shit.
@itachiitachi1946 Stop throwing around the words fascist and Nazi, they have nothing to do with my actual political and ethical opinions and are, in fact, diametrically opposed to what I believe. You assume I joined the military voluntarily because I wanted to be a "tool" and "murder" people "for their oil". In actuality I joined to pay for my education (I'm an engineer) and I have always opposed the Invasion or Iraq. I call you a troll because you keep suggesting I should kill myself ...
@itachiitachi1946 ... calling me evil, a murderer, and a fascist Nazi. These are things you wouldn't accuse me of if you actually knew anything about my personal history. However, you have accused me of a great many vague and terrible crimes with absolutely nothing so substantiate these charges except your assumptions based on your own biases and what little you do know about me. You're an ignorant and base person who loves nothing more than to antagonize people for your own amusement - a troll.
@Snipe4261@Snipe4261 ur judged based on ur actions.u invaded in a foreign country u occupied it u enslaved ppl destroying their freedom and the future of young kids and their economy and u helped corps steal their resources protecting the propaganda of ur country and beeing a mere tool.if u were a good person then u wouldnt do all that stuff.but u did and ur ok about that.now..GET LOST U STUPID FUCKING NAZI FASCIST.TO HELL WITH ALL EVIL PPL LIKE U WHO OPRESS FREEDOM AND KILL OTHERS!
@itachiitachi1946 I may be judged based on my actions, and rightly so, but I haven't done any of the things you accuse me of. I enslaved and/or killed no one, Corporations can't be "stealing" Iraqi resources if they're paying for them (which I have nothing to do with anyway), I wasn't involved in the INVASION of Iraq in any way, the Iraqi economy will see long term benefits as a result of US involvement (which is not a justification), and installing an actual functioning democracy is not ...
@itachiitachi1946 ...nearly the same thing as "destroying freedoms" or "futures". The only thing you accuse me of that I HAVE done is occupy Iraq. However, occupation of Iraq was an unfortunate but necessary consequence of the invasion, which I never agreed with or supported anyway. If Iraq hadn't' been occupied after the invasion the country would have been absolutely fucked because of the dismantling of infrastructure and government that occurred during the invasion. Your're still a troll.
@Snipe4261 ur a hypocrite(u fucking nazi)u said u dont agree with occupation of iraq and yet u served that cause by occupating iraq.u dont respect freedom of others.ur so egotistical that ur willing to do w/e they order u to do in order to keep ur job.and what a job..! occupying ppl,killing them destroying their country&their future&bring sadness to the world.ppl like u should stop existingcause ur evil,nazis and fascists.save ur lame propaganda.its not working.whole world knows the shits u r
@itachiitachi1946 Don't put words in my mouth, troll. I said I didn't agree with or support the INVASION of Iraq but did support and agree with OCCUPATION after the invasion was over; however, I never said the occupation was a GOOD thing, just that it was necessary once the invasion had caused all that damage. I don't and have never suggested that the US invasion of Iraq was a good thing; quite the contrary, It was a very bad thing but that doesn't mean my military service was also a bad thing.
@Snipe4261 ur military service was and is a bad thing cause u served evil(and egotistical) purposes.u FUCKING SCUMBAG U DECLARE WARS ON COUNTRIES AND U DEFEND ALL THOSE ACTIONS THAT U DO AND ATTROCITIES U COMMIT.UR ONE OF THOSE MANY ENEMIES OF FREEDOM,ENEMY OF FREE WILL AND FREE SPIRIT.FULL OF PROPAGANDA AND EXCUSES TO JUSTIFY UR EGO AND UR FEELINGS AND UR ACTIONS.FUCKING FASCIST.GET LOST.DONT TALK TO ME I HATE PPL LIKE U WHO MAKE OTHERS LIVES A LIVING HELL.GET LOST U AMERICAN NAZI!
@itachiitachi1946 Fyi, America defeated the Nazis at the end of the Second World War and Nazis are greatly disliked by Americans, even today. Also, no matter which way you slice it you can't paint US actions in Iraq (the invasion or the occupation) as being motivated or in any way involving fascism or fascist ideals. No doubt there are fascists in America but seeing as how I consider nationalism a joke, racism repugnant, and clearly don't provide unconditional support to my gov, I am not one.
@itachiitachi1946 And what atrocities are you talking about? I believe my previous statements have made clear that I have never been personally involved in any military action that could be even remotely considered legitimately criminal in nature. You really need to calm down and give me a clear reason why you think that I'm such a bad person, because I don't think you have even begun to make your case.
@Snipe4261 -_- id slap u if u were in front of me.
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not to mention also the rapes...attrocities...killing parents...kids..and even sheeps and,dogs,animals. in iraq...SHUT THE FUCK UP U FASCIST AMERICAN NAZI! UR THE REAL TERORIST.STOP TALKING TO ME.I DONT WANT ANY KIND OF CONNECTION WITH CRIMINALS LIKE U!!
@itachiitachi1946 Those things may have happened but, again, I didn't do any of them; furthermore, most US Marines and soldiers have never and will never do anything like that. Lay blame where blame is due.
@itachiitachi1946 The man in that video is a criminal who knowingly committed murder. I don't care that he regrets his criminal actions or throws away his medals because he is still responsible for what he's done and what he has done is something that he knew, even then, and everyone else knows, American Soldiers and Marines included, is a repugnant and heinous crime. Thats all beside the point though because I'm not responsible for what he's done. I've never met him and I don't know him.
@itachiitachi1946 Stop sending me links to videos of idiots and cowards confessing to their crimes. Whatever they may have done is irrelevant to our discussion because they aren't things that I have done and they are not things that I have seen happen. You obviously read my first comment on this video so you know what the sum total of my experiences were in Iraq. During all of my deployments I worked with logistical units whose job was to drive all over the worst parts of Iraq ...
@Snipe4261 all those ppl r the same as u.they serve the same cause and the same inhuman attrocious interests of usa.they opress and kill ppl protecting usa's propaganda.ur same shit as them and theres no excuse for u.now leave me alone I DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH FASCIST NAZI CRIMINALS THAT HAVE OCCUPIED OTHER COUNTRIES
@itachiitachi1946 Your logic in undeniable, I'm clearly a "FASCIST NAZI CRIMINAL" who has "served" the "inhuman attrocious interests of usa" and "opress and kill ppl protecting usa's propaganda" and I am therefore the "same shit as them" and there's"no excuse" I can provide for my "crimes". You have gone to great lengths to prove fuck all. Were done here - peace out friend.
@itachiitachi1946 ... which gives me the broad perspective necessary to be able to say that the things these individuals did and experienced were relatively rare events and do not at all reflect on the average US Soldier or Marine. You can cherry pick war stories all you want but that doesn't make ME a bad person.
@Snipe4261 Sure thats what you saw in Iraq, Sure, I really honestly believe you haha man what is the keyword the higher ups say to you for you to enter kill mode? is it GO GO GO? because obviously LOTS and LOTS and LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of innocent civilians died at the hands of somebody, Thats a mathematical Fact man, how can you deny?
@itsadeadmansparty Innocent civilians die in war because they get caught in the CROSSFIRE. Civilians dont usually die because they were intentionally targeted, as you seem to be suggesting. When civilians are targeted, despite noncombatant status, that's a war crime. Of course a lot of people got killed, its war. You also have to factor in that the Sunnis and Shiite were actively killing one another in relatively large numbers for their own reasons and were just using the war as an opportunity.
@Snipe4261 Listen Brother, You and I both know your other soldiers who have never seen active combat, freak out and shoot children, and families, but Honestly man, I know deep down that you actively kill sand people, im sorry your afraid to face your fears and make admittance to this fact,I know because I myself spoke to a iraq soldier who told me he had to kill children.Brother I know what brainwashing your under, its not your fault, You were conditioned into living this way,no blame
@itsadeadmansparty What the hell are you talking about?!? You - are - insane. I don't even know were to start with you; experience suggests to me that someone who makes as many irrelevant and unsupported assertions as you have is unlikely to listen to reason, so I'm not sure I should even try.
FYI, I'm not a Marine anymore. I am a mechanical engineer. I am, quite literally, someone who solves problems for a living. I moved on, you should do the same.
@Snipe4261 but I will also say this, if you kill anybody, even in the line of duty, You cannot enter the Kingdom, at all, the bible doesnt say Thou Shall Not Kill on Tuesdays. No its plain and simple, Thou Shall not Kill, No matter what the circumstances are, its black and white, all your friends who did happen to slam a bullet into a childs brain, will never enter the kingdom, Ever! Its okay in a few more years, the middle east will return to what is sopossed to be,Arabs land forever
@itsadeadmansparty one more thing brother, in around 100 years from today, we wont have Businessmen, Military, Stock Brokers, Bankers, Police, Prisons, Lawyer and Judges, THose will all be phased out, Those jobs produce nothing, those people are middlemen who do absolutely nothing for the world, They literally just occupy space. Children will come to understand that the so called Democracy you are bringing is actually Tyranny under the cloak of Imperialism,Truth hurts dont it?
@itsadeadmansparty Out of curiosity, what makes you think I would care what the bible says about anything? Did you just assume I was christian? Why would you assume that?
@Snipe4261 What I said is not religious, When I say "The Kingdom" im not talking about the kingdom of god, I notice you aint got nothing more to say? so I guess my point is well made, Im just curious when your going to realize your masters treat you as cannon fodder, as pawns in chess, they make others go fight there battles, when they would never send there own children to die in wars, its a money scam, all soldier need to be returned to a class room to become Problem Solvers!!!
@Snipe4261 Dont worry when WW3 happens and the identical thing happens in usa like it did in Nazi germany and your commoner families are wheeled into execution dumps,then maybe you will someday understand, Swayin to the rhythm of the new world order,BTW dont misunderstand, some good has been done from the americans side, but no way out weighs the crimes against humanity,things unparalleled like hiroshima and nagasaki,did have u even been watching the news, ur marines peeing on corps's
@itsadeadmansparty You didn't even read what I wrote, did you. It doesn't matter, you're clearly not interested in having an honest conversation. I don't do this often but I think I might block you. It really depends on whether you respond with more insane crap or choose to actually address what I'm saying without going off on 7 different tangents and lying about all of them. It's up to you.
@Snipe4261 sorry im not trying to attack you, its just reality of the situation is seriously grim, im sure You did good for this world and still do, im just afraid the generals are gathered in black masses.
@Snipe4261 Snipe4261 Question to you? Have you seen the Wikileaks video footage of Iraq Helicopter shooting completely innocent people, who are completely innocent, of any crimes, and the Helicopter pilot just kills and wipes out many many many innocent children and parents, Snipe you and all your brother soldiers Need to Go Back To School and Learn to Become Problem Solvers not Killing Machines. You are the problem with Earth, You are the disease, U are the 666 And You KNow it Too!
Unfortunately, little can be done to stop this. The vast majority of Americans/westerners don't care, or want to know about what happens in these far off countries: As long as fuel is available to them and the lifestyle progams and sitcoms on primetime TV aren't interrupted.
The journalist Lizzie Phelan is a case in point: She has been ostracised by her fellow countrymen for attempting to report both sides of the story in Libya.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE EVILS BEING DONE IN THEIR NAME!
I. Am. Not. Surprised. I've seen multiple videos here on youtube taken by US soldier cell phones of them laughing while shooting civilians. Then there was the pig that threw the puppy off a cliff while laughing. Then we had the gang of rapists who killed a couple families and raped the daughters, then killed them too. Seems to be something that happens as often as it did in Vietnam. That's what happens when you turn humans into animals and turn them loose with guns.
@bamboo4tameshigiri They train good men and women and bring in a lot of sociopaths and mentally disabled people and teach em that Iraqis or Arabs aren't people.
@ZombieApocalyps Dude, that's standard OPS. It's not special at all. Its the same reason we've had the exact same shit happen in ever police action since WW2. Period.
theres been tons of reports of atrocities done by american soldiers there, they went so far as to strap dead bodies on their hoods and drive around terrorizing civilians....honestly, who are the real terrorists, since now its been shown that hussein had no links to al quaeda>
thanks for contributing to an alert citizenary... not justifying, but the reality is that these soldiers are young & easily influenced... they're trained to kill & brainwashed to devalue the life of the "enemy" based on what I, and many others believe, is a lie... all indicators point to an economic benefit for the long reach of the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about ... It is time for an alert citizenry to begin to vote with dollars ... forgive & believe peace is now
OfftoShambala 5 days ago
That's your US military, fuck a patriot baby killer.
SoundFX831 3 weeks ago
Well done guys for presenting the facts, subscribed!
amcd981 1 month ago
ONLY THE UNLOVED HATE
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
the people need to WAKE UP and elect ron paul to help you put things right otherwise you will continue to head for that cliff.
ilindah 1 month ago
@ilindah voting is mind game, nobody voted for anything ever in history, The common man doesnt vote for anything, he doesnt have a right to vote honestly. I love ron paul but I know unless he become a magical fairy and sprays magic pixy dust, the world will become a better place, all we need is ron pauls pixy dust, and his wand will wave away all evil amongst the corporations
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty he may not be able to wave a magic wand to eradicate the whole system overnight but he sure has inspired the american people (and the WORLD) to open their friggen eye sockets, do their own research and use their own brain...before they make a decision about their own well being plus he has highlighted the brilliance of the constitution and its basic meaning for the people which is a great start :)
ilindah 1 month ago
@ilindah Im sorry I didnt properly explain what I was saying. Nobody actually votes for anything, That is what im trying to explain to you. There is no such thing as Voting, Im sorry you were raised to believe that it is real but it is not real. Do you understand now? If you use a digital voting machine you are 100% voting into thin air. there is no proof of any votes,at all,its all very much a mind game, Just wait 20 years, you will see earth has gone no where and humanity still asleep
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty lol you are right this "democracy" is a mockery. the voting process is more for "formality" sake but is manipulated PERIOD. IF ron paul gets in or not...his message is alive and gaining momentum. the people have had enough...and if you doubt that, thats ok too. how bout that?
ilindah 1 month ago
BRINGING DEMOCRACY THE WAY HITLER INSTRUCTED
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
Are you retarded? If snipe has served in iraq and never comitted a war crime then that proves that not everyone from the usa is a terrible monster. Yes its wrong to do the things that AFEW soldiers hav done but stop judging many on the few. Ur being just much of a dick catagorizing the whole american army calling them facist as a white skin head is saying all nigers steal and rape. Its people like u who ruin any possibility of an interlectual conversation about todays power governments!
Smeghead1993 2 months ago
@Smeghead1993 Oh it was much more than a few buddy, much more.
xtrafranky 1 month ago
your a twat
Gettogaming 3 months ago
Sooo... US soldiers went into a house, and for shits and giggles, shot 5 kids and an old person; and NOBODY had any objections? How gullible can you possibly be. Just because it's on wikileaks does not mean it is true.
spazmataz1 3 months ago
My sister's husband told Me stories Abotu iraq And how he Killed Innocent Woman And children... It wasnt his Fault It hurts him deeply But What are you Supposed To do when The Man Tells You To Blow Something up.... Do say no... no you Take you Orders... Its fucked up... i know... Ive seen what happends To a person... Dont Blame The troops Its The Government that Has control Over Them....
x4aperfecttool 3 months ago
@x4aperfecttool I wouldn't be so quick to remove all blame from the individual soldiers, they're still responsible for their decisions and actions, no matter what they've been ordered to do. That being said, mistakes are made in the stress of the moment. However, executing unarmed people, if that is in fact what happened, goes far beyond the level of a mistake made under stress.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
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fuck the new world order, end the feds, ron paul 2012 fuck the police state they work for us not the 1%
d0ct0rd3ath 3 months ago
Disgusted by this report, although not entirely surprised. There is always lingering doubt about the reports that come out of the media during times of war, and of course they are always leveraged towards a justification for the troops being there. However I have a question maybe someone can answer for me... If this house was in fact struck from the air, why would an autopsy have been conducted on these people? Does an autopsy get performed for every death in Iraq?
trulykiwi 3 months ago
B. FUCKING S.
LADYGAGAISGODx 4 months ago
Fighting innocent people who cannot defend themselves is the sign of a sick society and a much sicker military.
390bullitt1968 4 months ago
@390bullitt1968 YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,HOW CAN THEY FIGHT AND DISTROY AN ENTIRE COUNTRY AND KILL EVEN PUPPIES AND GOATS?,IS THEIR WAY OF HAVING FUN?,AND OF COURSE THEY ARE ALL "HEROES" BULLSHIT! FOR ONE AMERICAN WHO DIES,100 IRAKIES DIE WOMEN,MAN AND CHILDREN,BABIES FOR GOD SAKE!.THIS WAR IS A JOKE,LIKE IF YOU HAVE A DOG FIGHT BETWEEN A POODLE AND A PIT BULL,I WOULD LIKE TO SEE USA FIGHTING WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY WITH THE SAME POWER IN ARMAMENT AND INTELLIGENCE,THEY WOULDNT LAST! USA =KILLERS!
sandra148fc1 4 months ago
THANK YOU FOR REPORTING THIS!
You both need to start a political blog...
others are aware of this... but little social commentary and no mainstream reporting.
justincgs 4 months ago
that's true, they did more and more. killing innocent people and children was a very normal thing to US army. they are nothing but criminals
1976mim 5 months ago
These children they are talking about....the oldest child was 5 years old....shot point blank in the head. The youngest was 7 MONTHS. My aren't the Americans merciful.
000deadcalm000 5 months ago
The story you(TDC) stated was not complete. The US troops also raped a girl that was in the house. That was the reason they had to kill the other people in the house.
MrGnarus 5 months ago
@MrGnarus where is your evidence of this?
trulykiwi 3 months ago
you guys deserve more subscribers and views
rageatm4life 5 months ago 5
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the first top comment is more important than the second
jackbrightside 5 months ago
@jackbrightside I agree.
Snipe4261 5 months ago
Speaking of disgusting.... oMOZvbYJMvU#!
rorschach775 5 months ago
People getting killed in most disturbing ways
and lots of lies and propaganda...
That's the definition of War.
What else did you expect ?
Sorry but War is always going to be ugly & nasty, no matter what !
i think its rather positive that it only took 5 years to come out
usually it takes about 30 years.
Kudos to Wikileaks for doing actual journalism.
unamaxify 5 months ago
war is disgusting there is no honor in it anymore, if there ever was, I pray for a day that we as humankind can grow beyond war as a way of solving anything. It seems barbaric & not in a good or awesome way either. But what is more disgusting is that some people at the top are greatly profited by war... War is a means of having power over others, it incurs great debt & being in debt is to give up our own power. May we see the error of engaging ourselves in this lowly form of degradation,
braithmorgan 5 months ago
I'm a former Marine and I was in Iraq for over a year and a half. I myself never killed anyone while I was there and I only saw 2 Iraqis killed. They were adult men and only one of them was killed by US forces. One was blown to smithereens by insurgents when he ran over an IED meant for my fellow Marines and I. The other was shot when he rammed the bus he was driving into my HMMWV, barely missing me. My experience in Iraq is typical. Child killers aren't US troops, they're psychotic murderers.
Snipe4261 5 months ago 10
@Snipe4261 I hope you're right.
lisalck 5 months ago 2
@Snipe4261 I believe you. Doesn't this incident sound premeditated, though? Handcuffs, executions, and an airstrike to cover up the evidence? I'm not saying it's American soldiers in general, but something systemic, at some level, involving leadership and a number of people. This had too many elements to be a few bad apples.
Semper fi, though, seriously. I know that a great many soldiers are the real deal: Killers, yes, but also intrinsically moral and loyal. Don't want you to think I'm hatin'
sillygames 5 months ago
@sillygames Yes, regrettably I have to agree that there are systematic problems that could lend to the commission of crimes like this. It's not an inevitability but if herd mentality, poor leadership, and peer validation combine with the pain of combat loss, fear, and adrenaline it can create a perfect storm resulting in atrocities. I'm proud of my service to my country but I feel like my oath was violated and taken advantage of by government leadership when I was ordered to go to Iraq.
Snipe4261 5 months ago
@sillygames Circumstances outside of their control may conspire against a group of soldiers but thats no excuse for them giving up their humanity. They all know how they're supposed to act and all it takes to prevent something like this is one level head and a sufficiently loud objection.
Snipe4261 5 months ago
@Snipe4261 This is why, while I am in full support of anyone who takes the job of getting in the way of bullets and bombs meant for peaceful people, I also appreciate dissenters such as Oathkeepers and Wikileaks. It will be a sore day when you are ordered to take away my right to know what you are being ordered to do. I trust you will do the right thing.
sillygames 5 months ago
@Snipe4261 totally agree, and to take it a step further, the culprits should be tried as war criminals, as the USA would be doing to someone from Iraq, Libya, etc for committing the same atrocities!
trulykiwi 3 months ago
@Snipe4261
You're right. We should'nt paint all US troops with this color.
The problem is, the events were carried out by psychos, then systematically covered up by by the military. The psychos were given an opportunity to carry out these crimes, then supported by an official action, without much fear of retribution.
Pernic10us 5 months ago
@Snipe4261 u should be in jail for occupying a foreing land and supporting the crimes of usa.
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 You should go fuck yourself for wasting my time and not contributing anything to the discussion.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 shut up u fascist nazi.do humanity a favor and go kill urself
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 You don't know anything about me friend, nothing except the fact that I used to be a US Marine and that I deployed to Iraq when I was ordered to do so. If I admitted to being, for example, a former soldier in the Nazi SS then I think your jumping to conclusions about my character might ALMOST be justified, but the US Marines don't even begin to compare to the Nazi SS or the true believers of any other TRUE fascist organization, so you're not justified. Also, you're a troll.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 u occupied another country.u took away the freedom from ppl.u destroyd the families& future of ppl of iraq,u helped the corporations to steal the oil of a foreign country,u violated human rights such as...FREEDOM&respect of others,ur a brainwashed tool of ur gov&ur job is killing ppl&following ordersUR A FUCKING FASCIST NAZI AND PPL LIKE U MAKE THE WORLD MISERABLE.AS I SAID BEFORE...DO HUMANITY A FAVOR AND GO KILL URSELF.and no im not urfriend.id never be friend with a criminal like u
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 You know nothing friend. You're attributing things to me that I have never done and don't support or believe in. Your accusations are broad, unsupported, and largely baseless. You are taking decisions and actions that you BELIEVE the FORMER leadership of the US government is guilty of and accusing me of having personally made those decisions and taken those actions when in reality I am far removed from all of that. You're trying to lay blame on me that I can't possibly accept.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 (2)u served that cause(killing ppl destroying freedom occupying countrie etc)and thus ur responcible.GET LOST U NAZI I DONT LIKE FASCIST PPL LIKE U.
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Also, you're still a troll.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 im not ur friend.u call me a troll cause i told u that ur a criminal.so when some1 says the truth to u that ur a criminal for killing pl and occupying countries then u automaticaly call him a troll.if u were smart ud be something else other than a mere tool doing attrocities.u fucking nazi criminal u have the nerve to justify ur crimes and ur so ok with that. ppl like u r the epitomy of evil and shit.
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Stop throwing around the words fascist and Nazi, they have nothing to do with my actual political and ethical opinions and are, in fact, diametrically opposed to what I believe. You assume I joined the military voluntarily because I wanted to be a "tool" and "murder" people "for their oil". In actuality I joined to pay for my education (I'm an engineer) and I have always opposed the Invasion or Iraq. I call you a troll because you keep suggesting I should kill myself ...
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 ... calling me evil, a murderer, and a fascist Nazi. These are things you wouldn't accuse me of if you actually knew anything about my personal history. However, you have accused me of a great many vague and terrible crimes with absolutely nothing so substantiate these charges except your assumptions based on your own biases and what little you do know about me. You're an ignorant and base person who loves nothing more than to antagonize people for your own amusement - a troll.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
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itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
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@Snipe4261 @Snipe4261 ur judged based on ur actions.u invaded in a foreign country u occupied it u enslaved ppl destroying their freedom and the future of young kids and their economy and u helped corps steal their resources protecting the propaganda of ur country and beeing a mere tool.if u were a good person then u wouldnt do all that stuff.but u did and ur ok about that.now..GET LOST U STUPID FUCKING NAZI FASCIST.TO HELL WITH ALL EVIL PPL LIKE U WHO OPRESS FREEDOM AND KILL OTHERS!
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 I may be judged based on my actions, and rightly so, but I haven't done any of the things you accuse me of. I enslaved and/or killed no one, Corporations can't be "stealing" Iraqi resources if they're paying for them (which I have nothing to do with anyway), I wasn't involved in the INVASION of Iraq in any way, the Iraqi economy will see long term benefits as a result of US involvement (which is not a justification), and installing an actual functioning democracy is not ...
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 ...nearly the same thing as "destroying freedoms" or "futures". The only thing you accuse me of that I HAVE done is occupy Iraq. However, occupation of Iraq was an unfortunate but necessary consequence of the invasion, which I never agreed with or supported anyway. If Iraq hadn't' been occupied after the invasion the country would have been absolutely fucked because of the dismantling of infrastructure and government that occurred during the invasion. Your're still a troll.
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itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 ur a hypocrite(u fucking nazi)u said u dont agree with occupation of iraq and yet u served that cause by occupating iraq.u dont respect freedom of others.ur so egotistical that ur willing to do w/e they order u to do in order to keep ur job.and what a job..! occupying ppl,killing them destroying their country&their future&bring sadness to the world.ppl like u should stop existingcause ur evil,nazis and fascists.save ur lame propaganda.its not working.whole world knows the shits u r
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Don't put words in my mouth, troll. I said I didn't agree with or support the INVASION of Iraq but did support and agree with OCCUPATION after the invasion was over; however, I never said the occupation was a GOOD thing, just that it was necessary once the invasion had caused all that damage. I don't and have never suggested that the US invasion of Iraq was a good thing; quite the contrary, It was a very bad thing but that doesn't mean my military service was also a bad thing.
Snipe4261 3 months ago 3
@Snipe4261 ur military service was and is a bad thing cause u served evil(and egotistical) purposes.u FUCKING SCUMBAG U DECLARE WARS ON COUNTRIES AND U DEFEND ALL THOSE ACTIONS THAT U DO AND ATTROCITIES U COMMIT.UR ONE OF THOSE MANY ENEMIES OF FREEDOM,ENEMY OF FREE WILL AND FREE SPIRIT.FULL OF PROPAGANDA AND EXCUSES TO JUSTIFY UR EGO AND UR FEELINGS AND UR ACTIONS.FUCKING FASCIST.GET LOST.DONT TALK TO ME I HATE PPL LIKE U WHO MAKE OTHERS LIVES A LIVING HELL.GET LOST U AMERICAN NAZI!
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Fyi, America defeated the Nazis at the end of the Second World War and Nazis are greatly disliked by Americans, even today. Also, no matter which way you slice it you can't paint US actions in Iraq (the invasion or the occupation) as being motivated or in any way involving fascism or fascist ideals. No doubt there are fascists in America but seeing as how I consider nationalism a joke, racism repugnant, and clearly don't provide unconditional support to my gov, I am not one.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 And what atrocities are you talking about? I believe my previous statements have made clear that I have never been personally involved in any military action that could be even remotely considered legitimately criminal in nature. You really need to calm down and give me a clear reason why you think that I'm such a bad person, because I don't think you have even begun to make your case.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 -_- id slap u if u were in front of me.
/watch?v=NktsxucDvNI
/watch?v=mFpzPKxIe0g&feature=related
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not to mention also the rapes...attrocities...killing parents...kids..and even sheeps and,dogs,animals. in iraq...SHUT THE FUCK UP U FASCIST AMERICAN NAZI! UR THE REAL TERORIST.STOP TALKING TO ME.I DONT WANT ANY KIND OF CONNECTION WITH CRIMINALS LIKE U!!
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Those things may have happened but, again, I didn't do any of them; furthermore, most US Marines and soldiers have never and will never do anything like that. Lay blame where blame is due.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261
/watch?v=B6hp8HMstkE&feature=related
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 The man in that video is a criminal who knowingly committed murder. I don't care that he regrets his criminal actions or throws away his medals because he is still responsible for what he's done and what he has done is something that he knew, even then, and everyone else knows, American Soldiers and Marines included, is a repugnant and heinous crime. Thats all beside the point though because I'm not responsible for what he's done. I've never met him and I don't know him.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261
/watch?v=q5DfCS11hy4&feature=related
/watch?v=H0QYoGynjjc&feature=related
/watch?v=b3ZjsC3BOBE&feature=related
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Stop sending me links to videos of idiots and cowards confessing to their crimes. Whatever they may have done is irrelevant to our discussion because they aren't things that I have done and they are not things that I have seen happen. You obviously read my first comment on this video so you know what the sum total of my experiences were in Iraq. During all of my deployments I worked with logistical units whose job was to drive all over the worst parts of Iraq ...
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 all those ppl r the same as u.they serve the same cause and the same inhuman attrocious interests of usa.they opress and kill ppl protecting usa's propaganda.ur same shit as them and theres no excuse for u.now leave me alone I DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH FASCIST NAZI CRIMINALS THAT HAVE OCCUPIED OTHER COUNTRIES
itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 Your logic in undeniable, I'm clearly a "FASCIST NAZI CRIMINAL" who has "served" the "inhuman attrocious interests of usa" and "opress and kill ppl protecting usa's propaganda" and I am therefore the "same shit as them" and there's"no excuse" I can provide for my "crimes". You have gone to great lengths to prove fuck all. Were done here - peace out friend.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@itachiitachi1946 ... which gives me the broad perspective necessary to be able to say that the things these individuals did and experienced were relatively rare events and do not at all reflect on the average US Soldier or Marine. You can cherry pick war stories all you want but that doesn't make ME a bad person.
Snipe4261 3 months ago
@Snipe4261 Sure thats what you saw in Iraq, Sure, I really honestly believe you haha man what is the keyword the higher ups say to you for you to enter kill mode? is it GO GO GO? because obviously LOTS and LOTS and LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of innocent civilians died at the hands of somebody, Thats a mathematical Fact man, how can you deny?
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty Innocent civilians die in war because they get caught in the CROSSFIRE. Civilians dont usually die because they were intentionally targeted, as you seem to be suggesting. When civilians are targeted, despite noncombatant status, that's a war crime. Of course a lot of people got killed, its war. You also have to factor in that the Sunnis and Shiite were actively killing one another in relatively large numbers for their own reasons and were just using the war as an opportunity.
Snipe4261 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 Listen Brother, You and I both know your other soldiers who have never seen active combat, freak out and shoot children, and families, but Honestly man, I know deep down that you actively kill sand people, im sorry your afraid to face your fears and make admittance to this fact,I know because I myself spoke to a iraq soldier who told me he had to kill children.Brother I know what brainwashing your under, its not your fault, You were conditioned into living this way,no blame
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty What the hell are you talking about?!? You - are - insane. I don't even know were to start with you; experience suggests to me that someone who makes as many irrelevant and unsupported assertions as you have is unlikely to listen to reason, so I'm not sure I should even try.
FYI, I'm not a Marine anymore. I am a mechanical engineer. I am, quite literally, someone who solves problems for a living. I moved on, you should do the same.
Snipe4261 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 but I will also say this, if you kill anybody, even in the line of duty, You cannot enter the Kingdom, at all, the bible doesnt say Thou Shall Not Kill on Tuesdays. No its plain and simple, Thou Shall not Kill, No matter what the circumstances are, its black and white, all your friends who did happen to slam a bullet into a childs brain, will never enter the kingdom, Ever! Its okay in a few more years, the middle east will return to what is sopossed to be,Arabs land forever
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty one more thing brother, in around 100 years from today, we wont have Businessmen, Military, Stock Brokers, Bankers, Police, Prisons, Lawyer and Judges, THose will all be phased out, Those jobs produce nothing, those people are middlemen who do absolutely nothing for the world, They literally just occupy space. Children will come to understand that the so called Democracy you are bringing is actually Tyranny under the cloak of Imperialism,Truth hurts dont it?
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty Out of curiosity, what makes you think I would care what the bible says about anything? Did you just assume I was christian? Why would you assume that?
Snipe4261 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 What I said is not religious, When I say "The Kingdom" im not talking about the kingdom of god, I notice you aint got nothing more to say? so I guess my point is well made, Im just curious when your going to realize your masters treat you as cannon fodder, as pawns in chess, they make others go fight there battles, when they would never send there own children to die in wars, its a money scam, all soldier need to be returned to a class room to become Problem Solvers!!!
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 Dont worry when WW3 happens and the identical thing happens in usa like it did in Nazi germany and your commoner families are wheeled into execution dumps,then maybe you will someday understand, Swayin to the rhythm of the new world order,BTW dont misunderstand, some good has been done from the americans side, but no way out weighs the crimes against humanity,things unparalleled like hiroshima and nagasaki,did have u even been watching the news, ur marines peeing on corps's
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty You didn't even read what I wrote, did you. It doesn't matter, you're clearly not interested in having an honest conversation. I don't do this often but I think I might block you. It really depends on whether you respond with more insane crap or choose to actually address what I'm saying without going off on 7 different tangents and lying about all of them. It's up to you.
Snipe4261 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 sorry im not trying to attack you, its just reality of the situation is seriously grim, im sure You did good for this world and still do, im just afraid the generals are gathered in black masses.
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
@itsadeadmansparty What does that have to do with me?
Snipe4261 1 month ago
@Snipe4261 Snipe4261 Question to you? Have you seen the Wikileaks video footage of Iraq Helicopter shooting completely innocent people, who are completely innocent, of any crimes, and the Helicopter pilot just kills and wipes out many many many innocent children and parents, Snipe you and all your brother soldiers Need to Go Back To School and Learn to Become Problem Solvers not Killing Machines. You are the problem with Earth, You are the disease, U are the 666 And You KNow it Too!
itsadeadmansparty 1 month ago
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UNITED STATES OF TERRORISM
WITH ALL RESPECT TO THE GREAT AMERICAN PEOPLE BUT YOUR GOVERNMENT MADE THE WORLD HATE ANY THING AMERICAN
IT IS YOUR TIME TO TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY FROM THE BANKERS AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX CRIMINALS !
THOSE MURDERERS NOT ONLY RUINED YOUR LIFE BUT ENTIRE NATIONS LIFE’S
longliveegypt1 5 months ago
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longliveegypt1 5 months ago
Unfortunately, little can be done to stop this. The vast majority of Americans/westerners don't care, or want to know about what happens in these far off countries: As long as fuel is available to them and the lifestyle progams and sitcoms on primetime TV aren't interrupted.
The journalist Lizzie Phelan is a case in point: She has been ostracised by her fellow countrymen for attempting to report both sides of the story in Libya.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE EVILS BEING DONE IN THEIR NAME!
crocfme 5 months ago
the mission is genocide
bluedobie4 5 months ago
I am Iraqi
USA did nothing to Iraq ((
they just removed Saddam and he was a Dictator !, but they create a thousand of corrupt , bad dictators !!!!!!
we have no democracy now ....they let Alqaida inter Iraq and killing us ((
they build nothing and even we have no enough electricity ((
too much explosion defect our environment and pollute everything ..too many diseases and cases happened after US military enter Iraq (((
iraqismartheart1 5 months ago 26
@iraqismartheart1 And they installed all those poppy fields.
cheats59 5 months ago
@iraqismartheart1 lol stfu your american propaganda.
canef3ar 5 months ago
@iraqismartheart1 I am so sorry :-(
I am American, and I never wanted any of this to happen at all!
sillygames 5 months ago
@iraqismartheart1
you fucking WHORE DIE BITCH !!!!!!
finalfrontier001 5 months ago
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itachiitachi1946 3 months ago
check out Democracy Now for good reporting
cruiscinlan 5 months ago
U.S.A is easily the biggest terrorist country in the history. Hope you guys start the revolution really soon.
pololopo23 5 months ago
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9/11 killed 3000 civilians. America has killed over 100k civilians in Iraq alone. I guess we all can see who the worse terrorists are.
Shadowlit001 5 months ago 15
@Shadowlit001 that's the stupidest fucking generalization i've ever seen.
rorschach775 5 months ago
I. Am. Not. Surprised. I've seen multiple videos here on youtube taken by US soldier cell phones of them laughing while shooting civilians. Then there was the pig that threw the puppy off a cliff while laughing. Then we had the gang of rapists who killed a couple families and raped the daughters, then killed them too. Seems to be something that happens as often as it did in Vietnam. That's what happens when you turn humans into animals and turn them loose with guns.
bamboo4tameshigiri 5 months ago
@bamboo4tameshigiri They train good men and women and bring in a lot of sociopaths and mentally disabled people and teach em that Iraqis or Arabs aren't people.
ZombieApocalyps 5 months ago
@ZombieApocalyps Dude, that's standard OPS. It's not special at all. Its the same reason we've had the exact same shit happen in ever police action since WW2. Period.
bamboo4tameshigiri 5 months ago
And I bet these people doing this shit claim to be Christians !!
justjulie37 5 months ago
theres been tons of reports of atrocities done by american soldiers there, they went so far as to strap dead bodies on their hoods and drive around terrorizing civilians....honestly, who are the real terrorists, since now its been shown that hussein had no links to al quaeda>
zythepsarian 5 months ago
And yet Americans rub their heads, why do they hate us , because you're a country in deep moral crisis that's why
TheNemoooz 5 months ago 2
I viewed a doco called "Mission Accomplished" about Iraq, Sad
muzzleray 5 months ago
isnt this from the unvetted cabels? its probably bullshit.
VirginiaTagz 5 months ago
i cant finish watching this... this is just so awful. good work wiki leaks
VCSandARM 5 months ago
If you want to steal what others have, and then murder them, you must do three things;
1. Love your government
2. Obey them
3. Go to work for them.
SuperNewf1 5 months ago