Stay the course and die!

[muffin1559]

If Obama and he are the only choices, I will pick McCain every time!

[haostrom]

So, let me get this strait you are going to vote for an old ling Maniacal sad excuse for a human being? Who doesn't care about anything or anyone but him self. One of the Keating five didn't want to give veterans more collage benefits and also breaks his on law (McCain/Fiengold bill) before ever becoming president. um gee what a great idea NOT!!!!

Obama all the way!!!

[muffin1559]

So let me get this straight you are voting and supporting a person who has associated with shady people, anti American people, racist people, terrorists, drug lords and his wife, being the racist person she is.... saying this is the 1st time she is proud to be an American.... GIVE ME A BREAK! You better think before you cast your vote for him!

[haostrom]

Have you ever heard of Rev. Hagee? Rev. Parsly? or Rev Falwell? One of them famously said that HITLER was sent by GOD. Not only that they all seem to agree on one thing that god is on there side. Rev. wright my have been critical he is not calling for wars like Hagee and Parsly. Wright also isn't saying god sent Hitler. When it comes right down to it I think the voters will see right through McCain's rough as well as the 28 to 30% who still think this war is just.

[muffin1559]

No Wright is just saying that the white people brought AIDS over to kill off black people and he is to busy God D*MNING America! Give me a break! Plus McCain did not spend 20 plus years in these guys church's! Obama did!

[haostrom]

Continue bring that up like through up! It is old and it never bothered me. What bothers me is old man McSame seeking an endorsement from Hagee who said we deserved 9/11 it was punishment and McSame new this and wanted his endorsement anyway. Why don't you move on your trying to fight a battle you can't win. Why don't you look up Charlie Black McSames right hand man. Talk about hypocrites you people are hilarious you voted Bush in and he ran this country strait into the ground. Not this time!!

[muffin1559]

I voted for Gore in 2000 and voted for Kerry in 2004, I also voted for Carter, Dukakis and Clinton, I have NEVER voted Republican and think that McCain is not a very good choice! Now having said that, I think that McCain is a better choice that Obama! Obama is not right for this country!

[haostrom]

It's to bad that you decided to turn away from your values and decided to go with McSame one of the Keating five who stole 100's of thousands of dollars from the elderly out here in AZ. Then went on to make the McCain/fiengold bill which he fail to live up to this year. He should of been thrown out of the senate for what he did to thoughs elderly folks that was their retirement. But who cares right? lets give him a higher job to do even worse things to people. No way!

[haostrom]

There are some more things I don't like about him he claims to be a moderate but he is far from that if you read is voting record he is against health care for children and women and also against giving more funding to our crumbling infrastructure and schools. This man is so far right of center and flip flops on issues like water falls. The war is the worsted we need to leave even the Iraqis want us out but is anyone listening NO! There is only one sect that wants us there the Kurds they want.

[haostrom]

There is only one sect that wants us there the Kurds they want more money for Oil! I want solutions to our problems not just patches which is what McCain proposes. I want Habeas Corpus to remain they didn't just take it away from Gitom detainees it applied to everyone even U.S citizens. This about more than experience it is about judgment and McCain has none just like Bush has none. McCain is a neo-con and gets all his money from corporations. Obama did get some money form Corp. most citizens.

[muffin1559]

And what about Obama, he don't flip flop? Seems he is flipping and flopping more than anyone I know! He is a liar, when things don't go his way, he makes speaches, that he steals from other people, like his JUST WORDS SPEACH! He is a fraud, the man should not be senator let alone president! NOBAMA!

[haostrom]

I am sorry that the media got to you and probably filled your mind full of crap but I don't watch that crap that is why I am for Obama. Because in the end after I was down researching the candidates and not listening to the media spin anymore McCain was far worse on rights of the people and also veterans rights which is sad to say but his voting record reflects the kind of man he is. McCain doesn't care about the country's needs just oil and the wealthy.

[muffin1559]

What the media has did was get me more pissed off at Obama, since they do not report anything that is bad that Obama has said or did! I will NOT vote for Obama. He is not worthy of anyone's vote and should not even be in the senate!

[haostrom]

Than I know that you are one of the many that as fallen right into republican snare that is exactly why I don't watch news. They are either to far to the right like FOX or to far to the left like MSNBC. News isn't news anymore! I made my decision based on McCain's deplorable record on womens rights and veterans issues as well as education issues that he has failed to care about at all.

[muffin1559]

And what record of NObama's are you making your decision on him? He has no record, maybe if you look hard enough, there will be a criminal record!

[haostrom]

One other reason I won't vote McCain he refuses to let his supporters just support him instead of taxpayer dollars which could be put to good use some where else.

I know that my Tax payer Dollars aren't being spent on the DNC campaign they are only excepting money from the every day citizen no lobbyist or special interest this time just we the people. Of course the media didn't cover that one either though. So, I wouldn't expect you to know it was like a five second clip in local news.

[muffin1559]

Well, I won't vote for NObama, CAN'T, I think to much of my country to do that to us!

[haostrom]

He may not have as long as a record as McSame but that doesn't make him a criminal or not good enough to run this country. I know you would like to paint him as a criminal but he isn't and has never been charged with anything. McSame has broken law and gotten away with a slap on the wrist the S&L scandal ever hear of that. You strike me as someone who really doesn't care about principles or character.

[muffin1559]

NObama has had his share of shady people surrounding him, and the thing with Rezko is not over, he still may be involved with that enough to bring charges against him! Yep heard of the S&L scandal, but no charges were brought up on McCain, either! McCain in my book is the lessor of evils!

[haostrom]

Oh, I see you think so little of our country you would rather see this country go right down the tubes be my guest vote for McSame as Bush. That is your idiotic decision McSame is senile and demented. He doesn't even know the difference between Suni and Shia in Iraq ya right and I am going to trust him to make the right decisions in Iraq like that lunatic Bush. Ha Ha Ha Ha!!! you are to funny you make no sense what so ever!

[muffin1559]

This country has been going down the tubes for the past almost 8 years. Didn't you see that long ago? Did you vote for Gore in 2000, I did. Did you vote for Kerry in 2004? I did! I saw what was going on, I voted democrat, but will not vote for Obama for anything in the world in this election!

[haostrom]

Oh yes I have seen it coming I never voted for that lunatic Bush either!! Yes I voted for Gore that election was rigged. I also voted for Kerry in 2004 as well. What is your problem with Obama honestly!

[muffin1559]

I never voted for a Re"puke"lican in my life! I have always voted straight Democrat. What I don't like about Obama is I DON'T Trust him! He will do or hurt anyone to get to be President! He is a liar, and he and the Democrat party are the ones that got him to be the presumptive nominee! The people in all 50 states did not have their voices heard! It was Dean and Co. that put Obama where he is right now! I will tell you I am for Hillary! She is the one that should be there now, not NObama!

[haostrom]

You are not the first Hillary supporter that I have come across there is another one that I have been talking to throughout the hole process. You have to admit Hillary would have need Dean to put her in as well she wouldn't have had enough delegates either. If Hillary thought that this was rigged she would have kept on fighting but she didn't. She decided to support Him. You are angry and voting McCain won't prove anything except your intolerance for the truth. Cont.

[muffin1559]

has she she conceded? has she dropped out? have her supporter stopped supporting her?, some have most haven't, I will give you that answer to that one! they have not had a vote and the convention has not happened as of yet! so don't be getting those poo poo panties in an uproar!

[haostrom]

The Man I Have been talking to is a die hard Hillary supporter but he would rather vote Obama than ever put a republican in office he also realizes their policy's aren't that different if there was no name on them you couldn't tell them apart. Not only that This man also realizes that Hillary will have a key role in Obama's administration. But if you want to sacrifice everything you believe in even though Hillary ask you not to be my guest. I wouldn't vote against my own interests. continue..

[muffin1559]

I have also been talking to die hard Hillary supporters that said they were going to have a stiff drink before they vote and another one after they all vote for McCain!

[haostrom]

I will tell you one last thing I was for Edwards in the beginning. Just because Edwards didn't win doesn't give me the right to punish a nation for the anger I was in at first so, I didn't. I would of voted for Hillary if Dean put her in which is what would have had to happen but you make your bed you lye in it. So, if you want to punish a nation vote McCain out of anger I am just trying to tell it isn't worth it. Peace!!!

[muffin1559]

If Dean would have givin it to Obama over Edwards you would have bitched to, Dean is nothing but a rat and his rat ass is about to get busted, we are not taking his shit along with the other shit ass people that gave the election to Obama!

[haostrom]

See you are even writing out of anger! Just so you know Hillary will be campaigning with Obama this weekend in Unity, Vermont. Hillary has just not completely dropped out yet because of the 20 million in debt she wants help to pay it down or off. Hillary has suspended her campaign. Hillary did endorse Obama!

[muffin1559]

ANGER, no not me, now revenge may be more like it, I will not ever vote for Obama, like I said before there are Hillary supporters around here that WILL vote for McCain because they can not support the democrat in the general election!

[haostrom]

Revenge is most defiantly ignorant. I am sorry there is no other way to put it you are blind to what you own candidate Hillary Clinton is asking you to do unite and all you can think about is your self. that is the epitome of selfishness.

[muffin1559]

Well that may be true, but I will not ever forgive the democrat party for doing what they did to Hillary, they need to be punished and until Howie, Pelosi, Reed and there are others are out of the democrat party, I along with others will not vote democrat! We will look else where, so call me what you like!

[haostrom]

I hope you have fun punishing your self because there is no way in hell McSame will win! You are not a true Dem and never were to take the bate of the Republicans. Even Hillary is smarter than that she new what the Republicans were up to. You are acting like the child in the candy store who is crying because they didn't get the kind of candy they wanted!

[muffin1559]

I know I don't like any Obama candy! And I will not vote for the racist pig, I LOVE my country! He don't know that there are 50 states, thinks there are 57, with one more to go and Alaska and Hawaii he did not visit! Stupid!

[haostrom]

So, I see he has to be perfect can make no mistakes. I bet you have made mistakes when you are tired. But he has to some how be super human. It seems to me all you know how to do is call people names when you are in the wrong that just goes to show your intelligence. Is(stupid) the only word in your vocabulary!

[muffin1559]

OK, then when Hillary talked about the Bosnia thing, she was forgivin by the media that played it over and over again for weeks, now she was real tired when she said that, and also when Obama said that his Uncle was one of the 1st people that arrived in Austowitz, (SPELLING, SORRY) and he don't even have an Uncle! I bet he was tired then too!

[haostrom]

Oh and by the way if the scenario was Edwards and Obama yes I would of been upset but not so extreme about it as to punish people for what happened. You are acting irrationally to the situation. It is not just your life here it is the whole country u would rather McCain be pres. the one who said another terrorist attack would be great for his campaign that is just cold. Shows how much he cares about Americans and it also reflect on u to if u are willing to vote for someone who thinks that way!

[muffin1559]

Yeah yeah yeah.... if your candidate was screwed out of the primaries by Howard Dean you would be pissed, I think so pissed that you would not vote for the cheating ass racist pig!

[haostrom]

Is that all you know what to say or spew out? You know I don't think she was screwed out of anything she was fine with the rules until it was clear she was loosing and then all the sudden it became a big issue. What is it you don't get? You are either a non-caring or just willfully ignorant to what your own candidate asked of you. You are not only disrespect Hillary you are disrespecting the rules. We are not Republicans we don't make rules to then brake them. That is why I am a Dem.

[muffin1559]

LOL, man you are killing me! LOL! Dean is not trying to break the rules when he won't allow a vote at the convention and he wants to just give it to Obama? Obama did not have enough pledged delegates, the Super delegates were forced, told to make up their minds after the primaries, they did it before the last vote was counted! Dean and his cronnies will pay for what they did to Hillary, they did not stick up for her one time! They are worse than any Republican I have ever known!

[haostrom]

I think you don't know anything about the situation The Republican state legislators were warned and moved up there primary's anyway along with those sate Governors they are the ones at fault. I f you want to punish anyone it is the state legislators and the Governors of Michigan and Florida. I is what the Republicans call divide and conquer and you are falling for it.

[muffin1559]

Then Dean as party chairman should hacve righted the wrong! He didn't and he and his cronnies will pay!

[haostrom]

No you will pay because you out right believe everything in the news obviously why don't you try reading a book! Or try actually looking at what happened. I bet you didn't you don't care you are just crying about it. The fact of the matter is they came to a compromise the states weren't willing to compromise till the very end but what do you care you believe every little thing you hear form the bias media.

[muffin1559]

Not bias for Hillary, big time bias for Obama, I read and watch TV, to get my info! I will comppromise in one way and that is to be fair about the votes but in Michigan and Florida! The democrat party is acting as if they were republicans only 100 times worse!

[haostrom]

Reading the paper and watching the new ya you are sure getting go info! Not really you are getting fed Republican Bull! I don't watch TV or read the News paper they are Bias all of them I look at voting record and other info on capital hill I also read books you know on Philosophy!! And other educational things not mind numbing media propaganda!

[muffin1559]

And what kind of record does Obama have? What has he did since he has been in the senate? I think he co sponcered a bill, that was it! And his voting record has been yes on supporting the troops but he wants out of this war! LIAR!

[haostrom]

Do you still not get it His record may be slim but you are trying to exploit what you don't understand. Obama dose support the troops he even voted on Giving the Veterans Free Collage McSame didn't even bother to show up! I have family in the military while they are there they need the appropriate equipment that has not been given to them under Bush. Obama will bring them Home. You have no reason to call him a Liar. I have come to the conclusion that all you know is name calling.

[muffin1559]

Obama has a hard time with the truth, it is like he does not know how to tell it, so therefore he will make things up or in other words lie about things that he knows nothing about! He is a disgrace to the American Way! I right now am so ashamed to be a democrat!

[haostrom]

Obama has openly admitted to making mistakes. So, that makes him a liar all the sudden? Gee I quite like the idea of someone owning up to their mistakes. You are just angry that Clinton isn't the nominee so you will resort to anything. You disgrace your own candidate of choice by not doing as Hillary asks of you. You are the disgrace to the democratic party the Dem. who says they are a Dem. and then whines when you don't get your way disgraceful.

[haostrom]

Why is it that you have to bring race into the issue? You clearly show you have a problem with him on racial terms now with that last comment. I sure hope that, that isn't true but there allot of people mad just because of his race and it wouldn't surprise me if you we mad for that reason with regards to your own language (racist Pig) comment.

[muffin1559]

no no no no, it's not God Bless America

It's God Damned America

Hillary don't know what it is to be called a n*gger!

Some quotes from his racist ass'd preacher, his old Uncle figure, his mentor, don't tell me he is not racist!

[haostrom]

You are still bring that up like trough up! At least he didn't say we deserved 9/11 it was punishment! OH an at least he didn't say it would be great if we had another terrorist attack it would help out McSames campaign. He may be critical but he isn't calling for the out right death of American citizens McSame and Hagee are for the own personal gain!!