How to Install Diana+ 35mm Back

[MrBigNit]

hey i have a Diana + and was planning on converting it to 35mm. is it true that i will have to buy a wide angle lens in order to shoot on 35mm film, or will i be able to use the standard lens?

[kaituba]

@MrBigNit You don't have to, but just remember that you are using only the about 30% of the center portion of the lens, so don't frame your subject using the whole viewfinder frame, or you might be cutting off people's heads in the image. You will get a fuller image with the wide angle lens.

[beatnikdig]

@kaituba would the 55mm-wide-angle-and-close-up-l­enses work well with the 35mm back? thank you :)

[stefarrrnie]

I want to buy a Diana F+ but I acutally don't really get it yet. Do I really need this 35mm back in order to use 35mm films? Or is it possible to use 35mm films without the back?

[kaituba]

@stefarrrnie You can do 35mm films without the back, but it is VERY inconvenient, since there is no film counter. You need to count the number of turns as you advance the film and the number of turns varies as you advance thru the film roll. With the 35mm back, you are only using 30% of the negative area and so you lose the vignette and out of focus edges. I would recommend getting a 35mm lo-fi camera, if your intent is to shoot 35mm film. (Holga 135, Lomography La Sardina or the Diana Mini)

[stefarrrnie]

@kaituba thank you!

[masehealy]

Hi I noticed you said that if you were just scanning your negatives that you can use the panoramic with sprockets format, Would you be able to take a roll shot with that mask to walgreens and have them put it onto a CD instead of printing?

[kaituba]

@masehealy The panoramic with sprockets negatives are too wide for a 1-hour lab like Walgreens to work with. They are set up for standard format negatives, which is 24x36, no sprockets. When their equipment was designed, sprocket holes were considered non-image area. It's only recently that photographers became interested in using the entire negative. Check out thedarkroomDOTcom - replace the DOT with a . I haven't tried them yet, but they can process and scan your panorama negs .

[annmeow86]

thank you for posting this video! btw, I have a question. How does the film advance? Is it like the 35mm back of Holga 120N, something like we have to count the "click" everytime we want to advance to the new frame? Even though I really like the Holga, I'm kind of sick of counting clicks, so I purchased Diana to avoid it? I havent tried it with film yet because I doubt that its gonna ruin a roll if I dont make it properly...thanks again for doing such great videos. It helps seriously!

[kaituba]

@annmeow86 The back has a visual film counter. You watch a dot in a window, and wait for it to reappear. Check out my video, How to load film in a Diana+ 35mm film back. Another solution would be to buy a 35mm film camera, like the Holga 135, which has an somewhat automated film advance. As you wind, it will stop when it's at the next frame.

[KelsiDoesHair]

Thank you! I couldn't figure out how to remove the film plate just from reading the instructions that came with the camera back. Very helpful!

[BreadBowlBanana]

I get my photos developed at Kodak. Is that a regular one hour lab or..?

haha sorry im new to all this!

[kaituba]

@BreadBowlBanana I didn't know that Kodak still had any film labs open. Any one hour lab will do, such as those at your local drugstore, or sometimes at some stores like Walmart or Target.

[metallicafan114]

are you able to focus with these kind of camera's

[kaituba]

@metallicafan114 Sorry, missed this question from a few weeks ago. These cameras have simple zone focussing. That is, you guess how far you are from your subject and set the lens accordingly.

[MissSara]

will both the 33x34 mm and the 24x36 mm be able to be printed at a one hour?

[kaituba]

@MissSara The 24x36 can be processed and printed at the 1-hour lab. The 33x34 can be processed, but will need to have the negatives scanned to get the full image. Check with your lab, but most 1-hour labs will only be able to print the standard neg, 24x36. If you want to get your 33x34 printed, look for a custom lab, or look into getting a film scanner.

[MissSara]

oh my gosh, when I try to remove that film thing on the bottom, it pretty much removes my thumbnail. Awesome.

[mefusmelys20]

Hello, could you tell me how to take the masks back out again please? It's clicked into place but i can't get it back out again! Thanks

[kaituba]

@mefusmelys20 To remove the mask, just reach in with a finger, hook it on the inside edge of the mask that's closest to the lens and pull it out.

[Briansbickinit]

Hey Kai, I was wondering if you could tell me how to take out the 35mm back if I want to go back to using the 120mm film

[bagelbites10]

Hey Kai, i was wondering. if i got the diana with the 35mm back and shoot with sprocket holes. Would drugstores or one hour labs be able to scan them and put the on a cd and still have the sprocket holes? Because you mentioned that the labs would crop out some of the photo..

[kaituba]

@bagelbites10 The majority of 1-hour labs or drugstores won't be able to print the image with sprocket holes. The sprocket holes were never considered part of the image in tradition 35mm photography, and so none of the printing equipment is made to make images with sprockets. the labs can process the film fine, but to get the sprockets in your images, you will have to find a lab that can scan the whole negative, or buy a scanner that can scan medium format transparencies,

[TIARAAX]

hi Kai great video your very helpful. i'm thinking of getting the diana f+ and the 35 mm back but i saw some photo's with the 35 mm back and they have those (really dont know what they are called sorry. I'm new to photography) dots or square's at the top (and their small their in a line, a roll of film has it) what im trying to say is that do you have to have that their? cause if thats their i dont really want it :/

[kaituba]

@TIARAAX The sprocket holes are part of the film, but you won't need to worry about it if you take your film to a regular 1-hour lab.Their equipment can't print the sprocket holes, so you will only get a clean rectangular image. If you get the 35mm adapter, be aware that you are only using 32% of the image. This means you have to keep your subject centered in the viewfinder, since the image is being cropped by the adapter. You also won't get the darkened corners (cropped out).

[woopsxx]

could you please tell me if the 35mm back comes WITH the diana f+?

[kaituba]

@woopsxx The 35mm back does not come with the regular Diana F+ unless you purchased the Deluxe set, which has many add-ons included.

[alyssarose555]

when using the 35mm back does it effect the picture at all? do you loose anything by changing the mm?

[kaituba]

@alyssarose555 I think I've answered this already, but in case I didn't, when using the 35mm film back, you are only using about 32% of the total negative area of the 120 negative. You are cropping to the center of the image, which means no vignetted corners, and since the center of the lens is the sharpest, it may not have the interesting out of focus bits that you usually find in lo-fi 120 camera images.

[thatonepnay23]

I was putting in the 35mm backing and loading the film, but then I changed the format mask after putting the film in. When I was reloading the film back in I noticed that the exposure counter didn't change. It stayed at 1. Before when I loaded the film the first time it worked. Any suggestions to help fix this?

[ZachMoFoSho]

If i use the normal frame with srpokets, will my local 1 hour devoping place include the sprokets???

[TheFelix91]

I'ma total beginner and so i'm wodering why you can't make prints with the two panorama masks you mentioned in 0:55 . Do you just refer to a one hour lab??

I mean, it must be possible to make prints of a negative no matter wich format it has...

[kaituba]

@TheFelix91 You can't get 120 film processed and printed at most 1-hour labs. They are usually only set up to process 35mm and APS fllms. You need to find a custom lab to process and print 120 films.

[aben11]

nice~ so how to uninstall the 35mm back? is it just simply push the bottom knob to Open and pull it out??

[kaituba]

@aben11 Pretty much. Then reinstall the bottom plate with the film holder tabs and put the original camera back on.

[aben11]

nice~ so how to uninstall the 35mm back? is it just simply push the bottom knob to Open and pull it out??

[octoberhsu]

Thank you !!!

[palacefires1]

You have the most helpful videos on youtube for this sort of thing. Massively cuts down on time and helps save me breaking my camera! Thanks a million!

[LouderThanBombsss]

thank you so much, this was so helpful, love your videos can't wait to start shooting on my diana!! ^_^

[kaituba]

@iheartapes If you plan on shooting lots of 35mm with your Diana, then get the 35mm adapter. This is good for a few rolls of experimentation.

[Balamayran92]

it seems like a stupid question, but why would you install a 35mm Film Back? is it because its cheaper than the regular 120 Film used in the Diana +

[kaituba]

@Balamayran92 - I think most people use the 35mm film back to try and cut down the cost of the film. The trade off is that you are losing the vignette in the corners, and with a standard lens, you are also cropping into the frame quite a bit. I like the 35mm back with the Fisheye lens combination. You don't get a fisheye image. You are using only the center portion, so you get a slightly distorted image, but with an almost normal view. I plan to shoot a video of this combo.

[01theone02]

Where did you get this film back form?

[minnie9856]

what happens if you dont install an image format?

[kaituba]

I purchased mine directly from the online Lomography store.

[kaituba]

I'm not sure. It might be similar to shooting wide format with sprockets, but the film might be a little loose, causing extra out of focusness. Did you film come out?

[Antiqueisdead]

thank you so much, I needed help with this, especially with removing the medium format film plate :)

[71mmuussttaanngg]

how long do you hold the shutter open with the leans on a diana + and a diana f+ and how long do you hold the shutter open when using the pinhole effect. reply back if u can

[aznninjapenguin]

thank you so much!