Riz Khan - Tariq Ramadan and Slavoj Zizek on the future of Egyptian politics

[JagjeetMann]

slavoj looks stoned lol

[ZobaK1]

Zizek... what a freak!

[12TabulaRasa12]

interesting

[ehemwe]

Zizek loves Islam (although he's an atheist himself) and hates Buddhism and the Dalai Lama. Actually Zizek considers the Dalai Lama to be the "real danger" for the west, not Islam. So he has no problem with China step by step destroying the Tibetan culture.

[elevencyan]

@ehemwe Where does he say this ?

[timetochilli]

thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu at lastt fuck sake america supports radical islamist and then they try and scare us with one slike muslim brotherhood who are a bit extreme never would vote for them im atheist but i would sit down and have a convo with someone frm the muslim brotherhood butnot with saudia clerics they will cut my head off!

[TheFritze67]

The U.S. has a free society with a culture based on human rights and civil liberties.

ALL muslim-majority countries do NOT have a society with a culture that is based on human rights and civil liberties.

F.I.: In the U.S. it is possible to convert from Christianity to Islam. In any muslim-majority country it is NOT possible to convert from Islam to Christianity without facing to be lynched by a mob.

So it doesn't matter if "30 %" or whatever of all Americans believe in "ghosts".

[timetochilli]

@TheFritze67 its because they ar epoor one.. two america has supported extremism against the left and they still do two and for this reason people are not educated about things to defend themselves

[Pepar1000]

Politically Correct Bullshit: As long as christians in the middle east, for instance in Egypt, do not enjoy exactly the same rights as muslims in the U.S. or in Canada, there is no "democracy" and "human rights". BTW: Zizek hates the Dalai Lama and considers the Chinese occupation of Tibet to be justified.

[MrBrianlowdown]

some dipshts in the us, think free democracy will be the same in arab countrys ...sory left ...im not right but this pc crap is destroying us democracy will not be what it is here ..woman still get stoned ..not with a bong ..dead rocks ..they hate the jews ..by the way look up sheria law in the uk

[emmic87]

@MrBrianlowdown yeah, because its the suit that makes the scholar right.....?????

[TheVideoRepo]

The juxtaposition of Zizek and Ramadan's faces made me giggle. A groomed, thin, handsomely dressed Egyptian next to a pasty, unshaved 250lb Slav in a T Shirt.

It looks like a scholar debating a hobo.

[afiqdeist]

@TheVideoRepo you're still trapped in appearance.

[49fiori]

Small European democracy like Denmark whose freedom was threatened because of cartoons, their freedom and way of life as threatened by Muslim majority countries. The freedom is the choice like Zizek says, the choice, which in Arab world is forbidden on family level, not to mention the state level, and ideology level.... You have to live in Arab world (I lived in Syria 5 yrs) to understand their backwardness and the backwardness of their ideology.

[dionisio454]

what do you mean by "hair cut", "dress normally" and "shave"?..what's the point between his appearance and the things he said?!

[Bladex93]

Honest question: does this Zizek guy ever dress normally, shave and get a haircut?? Just wondering, cause he kinda looks like a scumbag...

[bmkwatch22]

@Bladex93 I know how you feel !

[sansewai]

@Bladex93 No. And nobody gives a f***, honestly.

[ahmedabdou]

@yutuboslaven dude, do you even know us? lol .. Egyptians don't measure by color at all ... I am white, tanned though (lots of sun here) ... most of us are like that :)

plus, that was pro-mubarak thugs trapping a demonstrator, so?

@monsey3262 laughing, a fine convincing argument, any more brilliantly compelling thoughts?

[yutuboslaven]

05:33 Yeah, Egyptians are living democracy! Look how they're attacking a white man without any reason.

[kasparhelfrich]

giving zizek a time limit is like bringing an armada to a rowing race.

[monsey3262]

Islam and democracy!!!

HA HA HA !! is a JOKE

[UTubeisSHIT523441]

this man really knows what he is saying. 'The more you change, the more it stays the same', this is so true about todays world, with all this '"change".

[PersianSocialist777]

Tariq is a right-wing Islamist, however Zizek is brilliant.

[shazdecortez]

There are top 10 Public Intellectuals of the world..So thought provoking, It was so funny when Zizek talked about Tom n Jerry's idea. Anyway he is really good. Am a really great fan of Tariq. Perhaps we should listen more on him arguing with French politicians at youtube. He reason things beyond expectation.

[peacefullovingbitch]

God I hate being American.

[nofollow]

The dictator is dead. Long live the dictator!

[herash1]

The revolution continues # 2 it is now beginning another revolution that of the great vigilance having regard to the fear of the leaders of the army vis-à-vis the zionists. Can there be trusted to this officer and his similar? He has read the press release with a hatred incredible that we wonder if he really was go to the people, to its people. Forcing it has both welcomed the corruption which it does not know

[herash1]

more if it must speak, welcome or this silence. Brothers and sisters of Egypt on revolutionary struggle is not completed, it was only won a battle. You seems to say this officer by these statements "the government will remain engaged vis-à-vis the agreements reached…… » A you to analyze although these about are clear

[herash1]

ولا تزال الثورة # 2 هو الان ان تبدا اخر ثورة مسالة اليقظة بالنظر الى الخوف من قادة الجيش تجاه - ازاء الصهيونى. هل يمكن للمرء ان الثقة فى هذا الضابط عن مماثلة? وقد قرا البيان مع الكراهية لم انه يتساءل عما اذا كان حقا ان ترسل الى الشعب, وشعبها. تدعيم فقد رحب الفساد على انه لا يعرف ما اذا كان ينبغى الاشارة, ارحب او السكوت عنها

[herash1]

الاخوة والاخوات الثورية من مصر فى المعركة لم ينته, هناك مجرد كسب معركة. ويبدو ان اقول لكم هذا الضابط هذه القصص "ستظل بدات الحكومة فى مواجهة ازاء اتفاقات ابرمت……" لكم على تحليل وعلى الرغم من ان هذه الصدد واضحة

[herash1]

La révolution continue # 2

C’est maintenant que commence une autre révolution celle de la grande vigilance vu la crainte des dirigeants de l’armée vis-à-vis des sionistes. Peut-t-on faire confiance à cet officier et ses semblables ? Il a lu le communiqué avec une haine inouïe que l’on se demande si vraiment il s’adresser au peuple, à son peuple. Forcement il a tant salué la corruption qu’il ne sait plus si il doit parler, saluer ou ce taire.

[herash1]

Frères et sœurs révolutionnaires d’Egypte le combat n’est pas terminé, on a seulement gagné une bataille. Que vous semble dire cet officier par ces dires « le gouvernement restera engagé vis-à-vis des accords conclu…… » A vous d’analyser bien que ces propos sont claires

[Feeder71]

Hi!

Why there's no intervention like that on USA channels?

@Faralite Muslims hater or just Idiot needing an update in u're brainwashed??

[arazzeyniyev]

Zizek: Classical western imperialist/racist trash that arab/eastern cultures are basically patriarchal and cannot afford democracy is BULLSHIT. Egyptians taught us a lesson which nobody can ever did"

[nem700]

@arazzeyniyev

he said no such thing. he actually said the opposite!

[jonahfox]

@arazzeyniyev lol you have no idea what you are talking about.

[karlsmith00]

@arazzeyniyev what a load of bullshit.

and zizek is a fucking moronic bitch.

[AndrewHartman1871]

Can you imagine this interview on CNN? Hah!

[Sirrom0206]

@AndrewHartman1871 Yes I can but not on fox.

[49fiori]

@AndrewHartman1871 three guys all on the same side, I could imagine it on Fox News, yes.

[MrBrianlowdown]

@49fiori hey i was a hardcore lefty i went to protest both wars iraq ..but our country canr bend over another inch . ive never saw so many arabs in my life .listen to this guy talking about how many americans beleive in ghost..guess what when there koran comes to be true they will kill you .unless you are muslim...o u think thats a joke get to kn ow the koran u infidel

[ymd012]

Zizeks open statement was perfect

[Faralite]

Yes Tarik and you'd probably still be wiping your ass with your hand if it wasn't for our philosophical advancements.

Muslims can't have democracy, just as Christians can't and so forth. If you mean people from the middle east or central asia, then yes. A liberal muslim is an oxymoron. A liberal turk or saudi yes.

Face it, if you want to embrace democracy and development you have to ditch religion, especially the monotheistic ones, they are inherently dictatorial (one almighty god remember).

[MrMsatash]

@Faralite Islam taught the Muslims to wash their asses 1400 years ago and they are doing so from that time. But you still wipe out your asses with a piece of paper. I am so sorry for you shit ass. Wash your ass like Muslims! Wash your minds like Western philosophers. Frank, a student of philosophy in Germany

[Faralite]

@MrMsatash You kinda missed the real meaning, but i might have a laugh from you so i'll reply.

Islam told you to wash your ass 1400 years ago? Interesting, so other civilizations didn't clean their asses before that time? Is wiping with a piece of paper less effective, more resource intensive and less hygienic? Wash with what exactly, water? We all know how plentiful that is in the desert. Does hydraulic ass washing origin from Islam anyway?

In what way is Islamic ass cleaning superior?

[ytytytov]

I am a student from Hong Kong and my Enlgish is "not that good", so I am under pressure when I listen to Zizek. Of course if you do not know terms like Mendelism(just like me), you can't get his meaning well. I regret that I did not learn English seriously when I was young. I am interested in politics, philosophy and so on, but it is hard to build to absorb knowledge and opinions about these as my English is not good. If oneday I can listen to Zizek well, I will die with no regrets.

[Roxas6KingdomHearts]

Slavoj Zizek is so worked up compared to Tariq Ramadam's calm mood. Great video @AlJazeeraEnglish

[Roxas6KingdomHearts]

Slovaj Zizek is so funny! His shoulders go up and down and he is so worked up in his speech. He makes me laugh.

[nofollow]

18:47 Idk how it seems outside but in Turkey from 1950's to now, Erbakan, Erdoğan or any other islamist person is the same. They never change. They say now, we are supporting the people of Egypt but sending police to any protest against them, keeping journalists in prison, suppress media, doing islamisation of everything. Egyptian people should take step carefully. Will it be people's revolution or another islamo-fascist dictatorship. Never trust a religious man, especially a muslim one.

[RadMejri]

"Only a strong left will save us, in Arab countries, and in the west !"

Slavoj Zizek: you're my hero <3

[sextusloverlord]

Slajov Zizek <3

[akj375]

I spent many unfortunate years of terror in a middle-east country prior to narrowly escaping with my life... simply for having different views than the status quo. Bottom line is... if you were watching something like this in a country run by fundamentalist Islamic principles, you would likely loose your life just for watching it. I'll take a shitty democracy over an Islamic government any day . If you don't agree... feel free to move to Iran or Saudi. They'd love to have ya.

[rencrow]

@akj375

You're making the mistake of assuming that muslims prefer extremist theocracies instead of secular (or islamic) liberal goverments.

[akj375]

@rencrow - That's not what I meant at all my friend. My intent is not to speculate on what type of governments Muslims prefer, but simply to state a fact regarding regimes like Iran where I formerly lived. Regimes that operate on principles of a perverted, twisted form of Islam which preaches violence and world domination... those regimes are the equivalent of cancer for human rights and progress. We could do with less, not more of them on this planet.

[lisia9]

"How cheap and irrelevant all this multicultural talk becomes, there when we are fighting a tyrant we all universalists, that's how you build universal solidarity, "not with some stupid UNESCO!" ♥ Żiżek revolutionary looks like he is an Arab inside, gets more emotional than Tariq Ramadan :)

[heinrich66priapism]

What could be more hilarious? The fact that the revolution has been quietly scripted by Western powers, or that Zizek proves the utter fatuousness of theory? Maybe that Zizek sublates the occasional idiocies of theory into theory-as-idiocy?

[cait39]

"the choice is not Islam [vs] liberal democracy" -Slavoj Zizek

I hope that he and his ilk remember that the next time they proclaim Israel to be a "theocracy" simply because it's Jewish and a state *cannot* be Jewish and democratic...

[arbeitsscheuer]

I love that Tom & Jerry metaphor, absolutely brilliant and hilarious at the same time... Zizek is such a fascinating and enthusing theorist, I find him and his arguments utterly compelling. But then, I am a Marxist too...

[albertcorn]

zizek is a mad freak, just like foucould supporting radical islam in Iran during the revolution, completely insane

zizek should know better, he's from east-europe that suffered a lot under islamic imperialism/conquest

but hey, he's a marxist! marxists are always against th west, they hate their own society, he's a mad liar

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[Ryzler13]

@albertcorn He is not debating what happened years ago, I dont know if he is marxist, maxist, nazi, communist or chinese...wait no he isnt chinese. People who open their view to allow others societies methods and learn more about the world often do hate their own society.

I have not been too happy with some things I see in my society but that was after learning about other societies.

[TheEphos]

Slavoj Zizek is very good in this debate, with his reference to how the Western powers cynically view the situation and emphasising the issue of universalism in comparison to multiculturalism and how irrelevant this is. How the Egyptians, Arabs generally, understand democracy better than we do.

[sizaples]

Well, Žižek doesn't care about real thing in Egypt because everything for him is merely an opportunity for a debate, in this case about 'universalism' on one hand vs. 'relativism' or/and 'multiculturalism', on the other hand.

Whereas Tariq says "(...) we are supporting democratic values only when it suits us in the west (...)" and he refers to the real thing.

[Ryzler13]

@sizaples What qoute that he mentioned exactly do you "debate" or disagree with rather than give an opinion regarding what you think he is about. Im just wanting to get some insight as to what you think he might be wrong about.

[MrArthasH]

Żiżek is the best!

[imperialnq]

@Uebng hitler use to kill 10 enemy for 1 german killed by them. Israelis kill 100 palestinians for 1 of them killed yet the main stream media shows them as victim. If that keeps going on you should be expecting worse from Moslem nations cos the more you kill from them the more aware they become you apply more pressure and you will have a complete unity look at the history it has happened over and over again.

[imperialnq]

@ Uenbg

All we need is unity between all Moslems doesn't matter what replaces Mobark what people want is not democracy what they are missing is dignity, independence, justice in the global level hitler use to kill 10 enemy for 1 german killed by them. Israelis kill 100 palestinians for 1 of them killed yet the main stream media shows them as victim. If that keeps going on you should be expecting worse from Moslem nations cos the more you kill from them the more aware they become you apply more

[panthera50]

I totally agree with these 2 men: and Mubarak should be arrested and shipped to The Hague. !!

[ersenimtrak]

This was a great and enlighting conversation.. But the real emphasis should be the fact that all the Egyptians should be able to choose whatever they want, even if it is 'Radical Islam'. Nobody has the right to impose anything upon the others, including secular liberal democracy. Selams from Turkey.

[QueensBey]

@ersenimtrak Absolutely agreed, from an Egyptian brother. Wa Salam

[Makielong]

@ersenimtrak

Exactly. I'm fed up with those major Western media's rhetoric about the regional stability or the Muslim Brotherhood this and that... Whatever the political body will Egyptian people elect, it's not their(read: America, Israel, etc etc) business to interfere. Like Mr.Ramadan put it here, "let people decide by themselves".

[egderegor]

America has long been taken over by global bankers. We are a police state and the media is all corp/government controlled and manipulated.

[norb1937]

More bullshit. How come they did not protest when Sadat was killed by the army and they put this guy in?

[1mule12]

Thank you so much for posting this enlightning video!

[brothamouzoune]

slavoj makes me believe that being intellectual will someday again be seen as cool and wonderful.

[imperialnq]

people can't stand there and let their governments help the wast to kill their Moslem brothers

[imperialnq]

Between scholar islam in Turkey and extreme vahabisem version of Islam in Saudi arabia what we have got is a moderate Islam which you see in Iran but let's not forget the facts that because of atrocities committed by Israel and US to the people of the Region mainly Palestinians Iraqis and afghans the hate towards the wast and their supporting government is felt by all the people across the Region and that's what the west and Israel is scared of and doing their best to manipulate the situation "

[Uenbg]

@imperialnq Now if the hatred of the Egyptians for the west corporate imperialistic system could only be translated into:

Democracy will only make the situation worse and more corrupt

Than we're getting somewhere.

Than instead of asking: What else?

People should be asking why has every form of human government failed to bring true justice and fairness to a country in the ENTIRE history of humankind and is it worth trying to make up something new again?

Answers to these questions, see my ch.

[LazarusCato]

Its good to see Al Jazeera opened its comment sections also

[rollingklouds]

A piece about a great westerner, modern man and his ultra sophisticated and cultured wife; both highly qualified to teach the backward:

Cherie, the guru and Tony's toenail clippings

...Prime Minister's wife sent his toenail and hair clippings to a New Age guru to run his pendulum over them for guidance...

...Mrs Blair has borrowed a practice from white witchcraft and on a regular basis she casts a circle, a deeply symbolic act in magic, to create "sacred space"..

telegraph dot co dot uk

[4realhop]

great discussion. great to hear genuine opinions.

[favorited1]

Loved this Zizek quote What affected me tremendously when I was not only looking at the general picture of Cairo but listening to interviews with participants/protesters there, is how cheap/irrelevant all this multicultural talk becomes. There where we are fighting a tyrant, we are all universalists, we are immediately solitary with each other. That's how you build universal solidarity, not with some stupid UNESCO multicultural respect we respect your culture, you ours. the struggle for freedom.

[Filmmaker0098]

احمق است کسی که برای حفظ ایمانش از تغییر اجتناب کند

Person who avoid the change to keep the faith is stupid...Persian philosophy

long live Egypt!! ...

[Spunkette87]

@Filmmaker0098 hi, what is the name of the philosopher who said this quote? I love it.

[samotako1prvi]

@cafecitoforme well, i know he represents views of majority of slovenians ;)

[dexterfox]

In the description at the beginning you have again this story that he ran for President of Slovenia in 1990. No, he didn't! At least read properly his biography in wikipedia.

[dexterfox]

Žižek, I mean, not Ramadan :)

[samotako1prvi]

@dexterfox I'm a slovenian, and he did ran for president.. back then it was called ''presidentship commitee'', that elected its own president ;)

[dexterfox]

@samotako1prvi I'm Slovenian, too. He ran, as you say, for the Presidency, which is not the same. The Presidency (or "presidential committee") was a rather unimportant advisory body to the President of the Republic. The President was elected separately, in direct elections. There were four candidates: Milan Kučan for the post-Communists, Jože Pučnik for the Democratic opposition, Ivan Kramberger as independent and Marko Demšar (not Žižek!) as the candidate of the Liberal Democrats (ZSMS).

[naiemk]

The danger with Islamists is that they are so good at stealing revolutions with the support of poor people. This is exactly what happened in Iran 79. It was not an Islamic rev, Khomeini talks were truly democratic before he got the power. But the next year he started mass execution and suppression which is still going on after 30 years.

[ffffilm]

@naiemk

like the christians do in the US south? right.

[naiemk]

@ffffilm I'm an Iranian, I don't know much about U.S.

[zarkoasenov]

hey sloven you talk too much go back to the stable

[Eyezmelter]

@zarkoasenov

How about you tell us something smart? Fucking dickheads only know how to criticise other but can say anything smart themselves.

[zarkoasenov]

@Eyezmelter reminder of western style democracy Slavoj is reffering to. sloven means dirty in midenglish look it up. another note on that -- franks were cannibalizing arabs during the crusades now one is judging their democracy? and not much has changed today thru eastern europe, i meant concerning the eating each other issue

[Eyezmelter]

@zarkoasenov Urm you're kidding? right? I don't know what you've heard or you're just trolling about the eastern europe and canibals. Even tho franks basically had nothing to do with todays eastern europe.

[zarkoasenov]

@Eyezmelter cannibalism is quite prevalent in continental eastern europe and caucasus do a google on it, there is plenty of cases even today and it is part of the culture. on the other hand slovenia was part of the holy empire as, i think part of czech republic.

[triariuss]

@zarkoasenov

Seriously what? Canibalism part of the culture? You insane? Do you think eastern europe is still in medieval era or something? And only case of canibalism in europe that i remember was in germany (oh holy empire, right..)

Yes, Slovenia was part of holy empire as it was always part of austrian (or later austrohungarian empire) We were always part of some bigger country since we are small nation. But where is the connection from holy empire to slovenia and canibalism?

[zarkoasenov]

@triariuss this is not an issue of democracy or not, countries function as they do. can you call u.s of america a democracy? belarus dictatorship has higher gdp than democratic republic of albania.

[Ryzler13]

@zarkoasenov Sheep shipped from Australia at one time were rejected by muslims because the feed that was given to the sheep contained pork.

If you eat shark and it has eaten a human is it cannibalism?

[zarkoasenov]

@Eyezmelter one more thing kid, read Amin Maalouf before posting. budi dober

[HelloRedditt]

Hello Reddit!

[renumeratedfrog]

Zizek is a tremendously entertaining performer, but I get the impression that he relies too much on soundbites and over-digested ideas to convey his points. In this entire interview, he didn't say a single original or illuminating thing.

[ffffilm]

@renumeratedfrog

and neither did you. say something!

[gizzlw]

Ramadan & Zizek.. Two trully inspiring men.

[timetochilli]

@gizzlw ramadan isnt all that special

[CWAhmed]

"Guard yourselves against oppression and so protect your souls from the cry of the oppressed; for surely no barrier exists between the cry of the oppressed and God--even if that cry should come from an atheist."- The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.

[Marenqo]

Recently report have come up that alcohol serving bars in central Turkey were closed down by the AKP. No state, no religion, no communism, no capitalism!

[danfromabove]

Yeah buddy! Zizek knocks it out of the park once again.

[southsydney]

WOO! Slavoj Zizek!

[zomailver1]

Would the US will allow this in Saudi Arabia or any of the oil rich countries? Seems like Egypt is in the sphere of US interests only because of the Suez Canal and, peripherally, Israel. I remember US foreign policy on Iraq was that it was supposed to be the beacon of democracy in the Middle East after the war. Considering the hesitancy of the State Department to support a real organic democratic movement in Egypt makes you wonder. One word from Obama and it is over: "Mubarak should step down"

[sonOfMoses]

@zomailver1 China has more interests in Saudi Arabia than the US. As a matter of fact, most of the oil production goes to China, India, and Japan. Americans get less than 20%.

[seanankerr]

@20:20 Brilliant and beautiful metaphor in Zizek's answer

[ravenlord06]

SALUTE TO THE BRAVERY OF THE EGYPTIAN PEOPLE!!!

[TheVichina]

i am from georgia and all we have got for egypt....We will soon also free the nation from Tirana Saakashvili

[Rredwein]

Thanks for posting. This interview, aside from the live coverage coming out of Tahrir and Egypt more generally, has been for me the best moment of the past 10 days. Unadulterated wisdom which also made me laugh. Getting to watch and hear Slavoj Zizek, the Philosopher-Poet-Stand up Comic of the Universe, making completely poignant references to Tom and Jerry cartoons - even making a new verb out of it - and cracking up Tariq Ramadan in the process, what could be better. AND he mentioned Egypt!

[cchessmaster]

Why don't they go after the real dictator, the central Red Shield bank that is stealing their wealth? As long as they can keep them divided and arguing among themselves the banksters will win. I thought Islam was against loaning money for interest. Why do they have a central bank doing just that.

[strongfoot2009]

All Arab and all Muslim regimes must be changed as they are corrupt and tyrants . Presidents, kings, army generals are like " God " on earth : they kill, torture, jail people.....etc....etc and get away with these atrocities . Enough is enough . Arabs and Muslims are humans who need justice, freedom, liberty,equality and justice . Thanks folks .

[claraescher]

Right on Egyptians! You are inspiring the whole world!

[translationwiz]

The future of Egypt depends on what the protesters do and dont do right now. If they want better, they must continue with what works: peaceful, unified, demonstrations on what they want-namely that Mubarak step down. Not b/c ppl. hate Mubarak personally; rather the removal of his corrupt govt. which he is the symbol of. If the protesters become provoked/tricked into violence, their done with. If they compromise-their cause is lost. Patience,prayers,perseverance;­&they'll succeed.

peace/salam

[ibrahimsapien]

I've been watching the American news and reading their papers. MANY of their pundits actually argue that Obama should back Mubarak, that the US should increase "aid" to the Egyptian military now as they're the "king makers".

The central question you should be asking is whether the US stands for democracy at all, or are they actually an existential threat to the sovereignty of other countries. It's sad nobody catches that this "leader of the free world" crap is nothing but a marketing slogun.

[Obasiliasfilosofos]

@ibrahimsapien

All those papers and pundits are directed by Jewish and Zionist business moguls using their assets to "mold & misdirect the public or at-least significant portions of it into their train of thinking." The U.S is not fighting for its own interest its enthralled to serve the needs and self interest of the Israeli who holds strong sway over the press and major media not to mention they have a disproportionate representation in gov.

[strongfoot2009]

@ibrahimsapien : Look what the US and NATO did to Iraq, Afghanistan and palestine . The US and NATO actions speak for themselves !!!. Thanks .

[herbelizerbunny]

@ibrahimsapien

>implying that Obama's official policy isnt that Mubarak should step down.

[agentm83]

@ibrahimsapien The US gov't is totally two-faced about most of it's foreign affairs. It says one thing, but actually does another. Don't expect consistency from America.

[Julviano]

@ibrahimsapien the US pundits want Obama to back Mubarak because they know very well that once Mubarak goes down the first thing that the people of Egypt will do is to uplift the Gaza blockade. They also fear that Egypt will become a fundamentalist state under the Muslim Brotherhood. the question is though, for how long the US will keep funding armies to oppress people at the expense of democracy?

[Uenbg]

@ibrahimsapien in a Democracy you usually hear every viewpoint discussed on the corporate controlled media so every one has someone to vote for and lookup to (even to the point of complete hysterical worship, the videos from the Obama campaign has some nice examples). But it has no meaning, the decisions made by the elected governments will always be determined by the people who pay their bills (campaign funds, business interests, etc.). The opinion of the people will be steered by the media.

[heinrich66priapism]

@ibrahimsapien The U.S. government has been taken over by corrupt forces interested solely in power and wealth. Thus there is a natural harmony between it and the leaders of Arab world for whom money and power are the only real driving forces. The silliness of your comment is in its demogoguery: it isn't the U.S. that is the "existential" threat but the international power elite which merely uses the U.S. as its home base. When the U.S. falls, that elite will simply move elsewhere.

[freeofgluten]

@heinrich66priapism

Amen. Why can't more people see this? The last time I was in a cab, the driver said "There's no such thing as racism you know. As long as you're rich and other rich people can benefit from you, they don't give a shit what colour you are. All are the colour of money."

[hurgle]

@ibrahimsapien What's sad is how so many people think that the US does stand for democracy despite decades of blatant interference in dozens of countries. Just look at what has happened in South America for so long.

[VinciLit]

@ibrahimsapien

You may be right, but remember that Obama and the American leadership have supported from the beginning Egypt's rise to democracy. So don't be so quick to judge, ffs. Israel supported Mubarak, not America (or its Government).

[Codylangaugesblog]

Two of my favorite Philosophers!!!

[LH3301]

Slavoj Zizek looks like an angry young man. :-) I don't understand why there are so many hot debates upon Muslim Brotherhood. Isn't it a Muslim group? If it is truly welcomed by the Egyptian and intend to acquire certain political power, let it be. The only way to respect someone is to let him make his own decision, even if that decision doesn't seem so perfect.

[oranaise311318]

@LH3301 exactly!!!!!!!! and which is really more absurd, is ll things said about those brotherhood are completely false!! and egypyians really know that!! if they choose them, means that it's their choice, that their hapiness is in that side, why others shit should interfere if it's not only for their own interests! USA for example deal with the devill, if it's in their interests, no matter if this devil is harmfull to others, like the butcher Mubarak

[zybermarcus]

The riots are not about democracy or freedom! It is about starving and anger towards the corrupt government.

[one1armedscissor]

Tom and Jerry! 

[Thomasp671]

I am extremely proud of the Egyptians, and their courage to stand for freedom, and equal rights for all it's people. My only hope is that the Egyptian people get what they want and not just another dictatorship. The Egyptian people have been living under the Boot of Mubarak for 30 years and it is time for him to go. Here is a video I made for the Egyptian people and their stand and struggle for freedom. Here Is the name of it on Youtube

Egyptian Hope Say What You need To Say