@iekukataka YES, THIS IS KARATE. All the punches and kicks in the video above are in all karate styles, not just shotokan. Eventhough the rules in modern shotokan might have evolved you can't simply say shotokan is not karate. You might hate shotokan and consider your own style is the best, but don't promote hatred of shotokan or other styles. Why we should hate each other? Shotokan respects all styles of karate and other martial arts. We are all brothers. Let's respect each other.
One thing that every martial art aught to teach that Shotokan teaches is a fundamental that will help a person bridge the gap is the constant moving. By doing that you essentially start the process of constant state of awareness if you stand still even for a moment u leave a gap. I.e. shotokans foot work look how they never stand still.
it was morio higaonna then, i thought so, using sai against a bo ive not seen that before and ive seen or have most of his work on video and dvd, frank brennan is fast as hell what a fighter
Wow, some realy good fighters here in the vid. Opend up my eyes on ways of finishing an oponent. I have 9 years of yo-shimon karate-do. From age ten to 19 years of age. Lookin to join another type of karate school. Maybe, kyokushin, maybe not. Shorin-ryu or Shotokan.
ehh, who cares if karate is just a fightin sport and has nothing to do with a martial art... its a sport, just as football. football is just as violent.
well tall this talk of real karate and false karate... i personally learn it because i want more self confidence and hopefully be able to protect myself against the other chav..ahem guy... i mean shotokan is a good art for that right?? my gradings are done by sensei sherry who is the best non japanese karateka .. forgot where im going with this but i think for my needs its a good and very underrated art or sport - maybe thats the arguement ... that its now more sport based.. dunno.. oss!
To all guys and gals viewing this, my advice on IEKUKATAKA is: ignore him. Now I'm an open-minded martial artist, and in that spirit invited this guy, who is on EVERY Shotokan clip, sounding off and calling it BS, to show us what he's got on Youtube, so we can judge his credentials and testimony for ourselves. He has totally bottled it. So whatever he says from now can't be taken seriously; he talks the talk, but the I'm afraid the walk's far beyond him. What a clown!
THIS IS NOT KARATE! A warning from a JKA life member: I spent decades training and teaching this activity. Because of many contradictions I saw and heard, I began a study of karate from it’s beginning; what it really is, why it was developed, how it was taught, what it’s general syllabus was. The JKA has eliminated much of original karate and invalidated it as a martial art. They teach a punching, kicking tournament sport, not karate. See comments my channnel, study the facts, it is obvious.
@IEKUKATAKA Machida said the same thing about it losing the marital side because of the rules. Regardless, shotokan is still deadly even when its limitations in JKA.
@IEKUKATAKA Many of the best Japanese and Okinawan Senseis died during the World Wars. When the remaining went to the UK and formed in to the ISKF and KUGB they were made to make things dead simple and make them according to the western teen lifestyle. You can learn some real Karate naowadays,it's not impossible but its not common. But overall yeah,unfortunately we don't study what real Karate is. :)
@IEKUKATAKA Yes what you are saying is very true, BUT when I was practicing karate I was getting my ass kicked. When I started with this I begin to kick ass not only in karate but in other stiles and arts. This is very score oriented.
@IEKUKATAKA Yes what you are saying is very true, BUT when I was practicing karate I was getting my ass kicked. When I started with this I begin to kick ass not only in karate but in other stiles and arts. This is very score oriented.
I agree, I train at a school were they dont give about the sport part, they care about the killing techniques. From both Shotokan and other styles. I agree much marterial arts gets to sporty, in stead as for it was ment. Protecting yourself by taking down the other.
@SuperiorSquid I am sure he did, and, the operative words are real which implies Okinawan karate, where it originated and where it is practiced as a martial art and not a kids game.
@IEKUKATAKA some of the best fighters are in the vid, many whom trained under enoeda. try to find others ways to entertain yourself than engaging with randoms on youtube on matters you obviously know very little about.
@jponsillo What makes you think Enoeda was a karate practitioner? Know very little, I was trained by them, taught for them, how about you? Read the info my channel, obvious you didn't, and think. The operative word is think. Think about why this is so short of the karate syllabus and think about whether the Okinawans of centuries ago thought about a damned tournament when they were defending their family and their life. Think!! It is a novel idea not used much by the deluded who are entrenched.
@IEKUKATAKA This IS karate; it's just not YOUR karate. Some people like tournament sports, and some people think tournament sport is a perfectly valid expression of a martial art. If you don't, then go train a more traditional style of karate. No one's stopping you.
@storyacoustic Delude: To deceive someone into believing something which is false. Some people believed the moon landings did not happen, some people believe in ghosts, some people, some people......... It is an Okinawan art, slick, and Shotokan, the JKA, ISKF, etc do not fit the model and, in fact, are hugely short of it. It is a corruption issue, an issue of deceit, truth and it is a moral issue in that selling fraudulent products is immoral and illegal. I see you support that?
@IEKUKATAKA Hello. You and I have spoken before. I respect your credentials, and I believe that you are sincere in your efforts to help fellow karateka. I respect that. In fact, I am quite interested in what you have to say. You are older than me, with more experience, but our paths are similar (traditional JKA etc). I note that you do not like sport, and I agree; but I argue that sport is only one aspect of Shotokan. If you can explain how chinte is sport, I'd like to hear. Respect. Osu.
If you post something do you use sepia ink on vellum sheets or a PC? While spending “decades training” you are obviously unable to recognize what Karate is today: 100% well represented by the modern Shotokan style under the patronage of JKA (DJKB in my case) anyway, it´s still MORE THAN A SPORT because a true Karateka knows about the roots; but this is the past. There´s truth in your comment but not enough for such a general statement. Best regards from a (well experienced) Karateka from Germany
I dont want to be mean against all those who praktis shotokan karate. But it dont work it´s no balance in the praktis of the stance and it just bad.... Train boxing or mma it works and it some freaking power!
@trion987 don't even dare compare both arts, shotokan & other oriental styles was developed out of honest sweats & bloody knuckles from centuries ago, when martial art was considered as the only way to survive life-&-death situations. unlike nowadays, their arts has been designed for purpose of mere entertainment. speaking of stances its the understanding of the kata that makes the huge difference!
@wonton00 MMA is a sport and the competitors train like atheletes. Many top martial artists tend to be humble and do not wish to show off or have anything to prove. fighting is a last resort.
@wonton00 it's bcoz in mma wht mattrs most s 2 entertain d audience. d more combo punches were barraged on d foe's face d more it excite d audience, d more dey profit in business. d reason why dey were required 2 wear gloves, s for d fighters 2 deliver as many punch as dey wnt. unlike n real no-gloves-no-rules combat in life-&-death situation your greater chance to survive is the attempt to take down th enemy in one strike at d same tym d endurance to take such injury. that's karate training!
@JDM867 Shotokan takes a LONG time to learn, but anyone that does not understand how deadly shotokan is, doesn't understand shhotokan. At any rate, I just do it as a mental and physical fitness regiment. The fighting is secondary. Osu
One thing I never undertand is..why shotokan take away Sanchin kata? I mean, the okinawan masters said that is like the heart of karate (purificacion of organs, stronger body etc)... I believe Shotokan failed at this
@YamanoRyuu I don't believe Shotokan had Sanchin Kata. Shotokan was developed by Gichin Funakoshi from Okinawan Shorin Ryu and Shorei Ryu. I believe it is Goju Ryu and Uechi Ryu that have the Sanchin kata. I'm pretty sure...
Shotokan in Liverpool is legendary! Trained at The Samurai and The Red Triangle- didn't get any better .... Not even in Tokyo! The championships held at St Georges Hall will always bring a smile to my face. Halewood,Kirkdale or The Red Triangle were always in the final. No coincidence. O'Neill and Cattle .....LEGENDS...simple!
I trained with Liverpools best in the 80s also graded right through, we seem to breed great karateka in this city, not just KUGB other styles have got world class practioners, must be something in the water. O'Neill and Cattle were my personal favourites, not taking anything away from the other legends who need no intro,Enoeda knew he was onto to something when he visited our city in the 60s! The rest.... They say is history!
No disrespect to practitioners of shotokan but personally i prefer kyokushinkai.....trained in both and though i believe that no style is greater than the other (depends on the applicant), there are still certain things that make a style work....just simple simple subtleties that may react well with a certain person/personality......I LOVE KYOKUSHIN ...OSU !!
Well as joe8314 pointed out, Shotokan is authentic kumite, bloody and raw. No disrespect to TKD but I think that's aimed more at sport than hard combat, more use of high kicks that you would ofetn prove difficult to apply in real combat. Just my opinion.
The free fighting developed by the WTF for the Olympics was purposely made less dangerous to appease the IOC. Original TKD free fighting (KTA and kwan originated) was hardcore and very dangerous. Fighters got hurt and killed.
@Sherry200643 Any technique can work in real combat. U just need to know right time to use it. For example hooks, uppercuts, crosses and overhand rights have the power to KO an opponent. However, these punches are not effective if u try to use them as first strikes. U have to set ur opponent up. Perhaps land some combos to put him back on his heals. Once you've done this u have a better chance of connecting cleanly with a power strikes! Kicks are the same way.
the founder of itf tkd gen choi before create tkd praticate shotokan karate ( he was 2nd dan) in japan. so itf tkd in the first time was very similar of shotokan karate, after that the tecnics was evolved. so itf tkd is discendent of shotokan......dont confuse itf with wtf tkd...because wtf is completely different.! greetings from italy
TKD shares many Kata with Shotokan, after Funakoshi Sensei took Karate to Japan from Okinawa many kata got renamed, so our Heian kata were originally called Pinan.
I'd bet that sounds familiar if you study traditional TKD. The Pinan/Heian kata were developed by Anko Itosu from older kata such as Kusanku into forms suitable for teaching karate to young students.
Anko Itosu is one of Sensei Funakoshi's instructors, and Funakoshi Sensei is widely thought of as the godfather of modern Karate.
look at the kata's they are very similar. tkd emphasis is on the kicks and has added more variations of kicks. also you create power differently, shotokan snaps the hip creating a whip like effect, whereas tkd swings the hip to create momentum
If there was any art harder it would have to be Kyokushinkai and that is even questionable. Gichin Funakoshi was a great man. So was Mas Oyama. This was a great post.
Aint nothin like this anywhere man. Style not as important as having a good teacher but shotokan aint just brutal, its because its so precise that the damage gets done.
my answer is take a style u would prefer every martial arts has its own strength and was mean't for the guy who made it so go around go through diffrent styles and pick one you like
There is 1) Technique or Curricula and 2) Training or Regimen. This is what it boils down to and then it is up to the individual. Shotokan is a very good basic martial art.
Differences in fighting styles and fighting methods don't make as much relevance in combat as you'd think.
In my experience, I think it's best to focus on what fighting and teaching method flows better with your nature, philosophy, tendencies and your body.
Shotokan Karate is one of the most effective Japanese fighting styles you'll find, you'll have a very solid, all-around balanced, precise & well controlled style with a method of merging snapping speeds with devastating blows.
thank you, now try explaining that to teenage guys thats think because they watch mma that makes them tough. and they dont protect their heads because you taught to defend before any contact to the head, its dealing with the attacker with one punch or combination and moving on the the next, unlike boxing and mma where you are taking many shots and trying to last longer then the other guy.
Many MMA guys that I have seen don't have very good standup. They stand right in range, trading and deflecting punches off the gloves, each one desperately trying to survive long enough to take the other guy down and have a BJJ match.
i hate how youth see karate like shotokan to be a joke, Even though the world champ "Machida" is all shotokan. Im 16 and i take both shotokan and BJJ but i enjoy shotokan so much more and find it more practical. Oss
what do you guys think of Shotokan vs Muay Thai? I mean, based on this video, it seems that Shotokan is more efficient than Thai! And second of all, what do you think of Kumite vs Bunkai??
If you look hard enough, you CAN find that skill, but it is few and far between. The problem is that people want everything NOW. They don't want to put the time in. Karate is hard work and repetition. Oss.
1:10 is my favourite part. But anyway, I heard that Shotokan differs from other kinds of Karate by being more linear, but when I see practitioners of different styles, I can't really sense much difference between them. Could anyone shed some light on this?
i cant belive i stopped shotokan after i got my black belt .. if id seen this i would have kept going ... im 18 now and i got it some years ago .. i felt it wasnt interesting .. however watching this has changed my mind. much respect to all belts .
Oh man... Go back NOW!!!!! Some of the best karateka I know left, and came back. Remember, a black belt is not the end, it is the beginning. By the way my Sensei would not give a black belt to anyone under 18. It would take 7 to 10 years to get, and you also needed to do 100 pushups on you knuckles non stop, and with good form. Otherwise, no black belt. His instructor made a person who earned a blackbelt, put a white belt back on. You may have to be a white belt again, but GO BACK!!!! Oss.
Mate, 100 pushups on your knuckles in one go is dangerous, that can ruin your hands. And it has nothing to do with karate. Your instructor sounds a bit of a psycho.
LOL. Oss. Thanks for the concern. It sounds worse than it actually is. You build it up over the years, at your own pace, and with a proper fist. It really wasn't as psycho as it may sound. As for hurting the knuckles, its actually safer than the makiware, because there is no impact involved. It is a very gradual building up of the knuckles.
I've practiced karate for over 12 years (since I was about 2) ... one of biggest mistakes I've made was giving it up to see whether basketball would do for me... or not... :) ruined my legs there :) knee problems, torn muscles and 60% loss of flexibility... all in all :) I gave that up and started Jeet Kune Do... I'm 18 now too :) try it... JKD is simply a new way of experiencing martial arts. What I love about it is the ability to personalize my own style.. Karate is a bit rigid if you ask me
Train along the 20 rulz of shotokan, and youll be a very respected and effective fighter!!!
Lyoto machida uses it as a complete life style, and look at the man, he is not extremly charismatic, but he respects others highly and he is highly disciplined as in not getting frustrated or angry. if u do so, u make even more mistakes...
the idea is to stun or critically strike your opponent. if you can strike the pressure points correctly, all the rest will follow. Bruce Lee probably knew this. What followed this training for Lee was increased speed.
I think the point to Shotokan karate is Ippon Kumite, i.e., in reality if the punch was followed through you would not need to repeatedly attack because the fight would be over. Shotokan is about strong powerful attacks as apposed to the lighter styles that would have to use several attacks in order to finish the fight.
I agree with you, but ippon kumite is also meant to help you recognize when your opponent is starting his attack. Look for different clues (movements, eyes, shoulder's etc.). I always train with that im mind. Once you can recognize when your opponent is attacking, pivotoing, and side and angle steps are much easier. Oss
In reality mate they wouldn't even think like they do in Kumite. There would be lots of follow up attacks to make sure the attacker doesn't get a chance to retaliate.
if techniques don't make proper contact or are poorly executed there would have to be continuous attacks. However I've seen the power of some of these attacks that can snap base ball bats.
Modern day karate seems to be orientated around competition sparring where you learn to pull your attacks and restrict the techniques used. karate can be brutal a properly executed technique will end the attack. several opponents may restrict time and therefore follow up attacks.
@kungfuman82 It is possible to practice every style in the martial arts. I know it would take a long time to do, but if you can dedicate yourself to do then go for it. That would be a huge challenge, but accomplishable.
shotokan needs to get onto tv.....cause i havnt really seen any shotokan kumite tournaments........and if it is on, please someone tell me what channel and when!
Yea, wish it did I always miss out during Nissie week here in SoCal, lots of Shotokan stuff going on, missed it again this year! Just sucks knowing there are some dojos out there giving shotokan a bad name and tons more of crap karate dojos and people not knowing the difference between a good Shotokan dojo and a crap karate studio.
As far as crap dojos are concerned, problems arise when instructors try to make Shotokan training more interesting than it actually is. The fact is, Shotokan is about repetition repetition repetition, until the technique comes out automatically , without thinking. That is what is taught at a good dojo. Unfortunately, this is boring to some students. They want to kick ass right away, but it takes years. Many students drop out because of this.They throw it all away and don't realize what they had
You're right. Some people don't have the discipline. But if you do something thousands of times, it becomes automatic. In a real situation, a technique may not come out perfectly (as practiced in the dojo), but, if you are mentally prepared for violence, it WILL come out. My instructor always said that there are only two rules. They are 1 "there are no rules," and 2"if anyone is going to the hospital, its him, not me." This of course is a LAST resort, and balanced with dojo kun training. Oss
Yeah dude, practice is the only way...kick kick kick kick and then kick some more.....eventually, ur muscles 'remember' the movement and it then becomes part of you..
I totally agree. I'm probably gonna catch hell for saying this, but it almost gets boring sometimes. This is why people lose interest. But, repetition is the ONLY way. Kihon , kata, and kumite over, and over, and over.... Do your thinking in the dojo, during drills this way in a fight, it is automatic. Oss.
Yea very true. I personally like kata the most since I can really really get into it. It also helps when everyone is into it. That's why I try to kia the loudest, lol. Keep up the energy in the dojo. It's only after you become a black belt when you start to learn more complicated things like torite (spelling) or other grappling like techniques.
@ngaiflex I'd like to add one more thing to what you said. First of all, I agree with you 100% Repetition is the key. But, I'll add that, yes you should kick kick kick to build muscle memory. But this muscle memory is enhanced when you practice the technique with absolutely perfect technique, no compromises, and perfect deeper stances. Than in a real situation, where its OK if your technique is sloppy, your reflexes/muscle memory are REALLY automatic. This is why training is so precise. Osu
What we think of as TMA is a method of learning how to fight. There may or may not be a moral code to go with it. I know people who became good fighters just by fighting a lot. That was their method. They were helped by being strong and explosive from training in other sports. Martial arts are all about hurting people. It's foolish to pretend otherwise. To stay fit and be a better person you can do aerobics and join a volunteer organization. I also agree with MAfanatic.
"Better" or "Best" are relative... I'll go with "Practical" or "Accessible" for the most part. You see, it doesn't really matter about the style, per se, it's the artist's ability to deploy it. Tai Chi can be just as effective as Muay Thai or Judo - it depends on what the wielder can do with it. I've practiced three styles (striking, grappling, mixed) and I believe there is no "better" style - just better fighters.
For fighting id say all styles are good, defending your self,there isent a right way to hurt someone theres no correct way to get someone off you as long as it works.But I do belive there are some styles that work better in the ring or MMA fights.I dont like that if a style dosent work well in a MMA fight that people belive it dosent work at all.The gloves and rules make it almost impossible for some styles,the rules basically cut out kung fu from any fighting sports.But no rules, they all work
The rules of MMA are made so people dont get hurt right? This is the very reason Kung fu exsists. No groin, eyes, knee joints, neck, back of head. These are things kung fu targets. Please explain your reasoning... The Chinese made Kung fu because they wanted to defend from, or hurt other people. The orgins of Kung fu are violence, people figuring out what hurts people, what kills people. Whats the areas that hurt the most on the body?Best way to hit with the hand?Why cant Chinese hurt people???
i understand where you are coming from but you should watch lyoto machida fight in the ufc. he's a shotokan master, and implements alot of traditional techniques in the octagon. he even looks like he's even using the kokutsu dachi stance in certain points in his fights. did i mention he's the light heavyweight champion. i believe that maybe not as a whole but alot of techniques could be taken an used and prove useful in full contact competition whether it be mma, or kickboxing.
Lyoto is awesome, hes one of my favorits. People keep saying crap like "Oh his Karate is just alittle of his style, he also does BJJ and Sumo" Yes... So what, he did them, but most the KOs iv seen from Lyoto were from Karate. One of his KOs were a front ball kick to the guys chin, the first move you learn in Karate lol
I know in that MMA game you have to be well rounded, ground and standing up, but Lyoto is a GREAT stand up fighter, I belive the credit goes to Karate from what iv seen. OSU!
I have the same feelings like you when I'm watching Lyoto. Seems we're not alone and mad! :-) And how many times I've seen a guy on our trainings, who was unable to learn how to punch properly. Such guys usually are to weak for trainings, are leaving dojos and then you can see them in the T-Shirt with the MMA slogans... And with a little too big stomach. They are just "weak philosophers", as we used to call them. And they used to say that "Karate is not effective in real" - but the stomachs are?
For sure, Lyoto did Karate sence he was like 3 years old... If anyone could use Karate effectivly it would be him... I honestly dont see where Sumo comes in unless your in a clinch and pushing or something. The beautiful part of MMA is you dont exclude anything, if it works for you, thats awesome! Dont exclude anything, Karate, boxing, bjj, sumo wrestling. There is a time and place for everything. Every style has flaws, but why not use what is great in each one and make a cool style of your own
martial art are not strong on its own, it all comes down to the skills and experience of the warrior who devoted much of his/ her time to perfect it.
Martial art was never meant to hurt ppl actively but only when provoked or for survival. To able to survive by using the techniques is already a good enoug proof that its effective and good.
@iekukataka YES, THIS IS KARATE. All the punches and kicks in the video above are in all karate styles, not just shotokan. Eventhough the rules in modern shotokan might have evolved you can't simply say shotokan is not karate. You might hate shotokan and consider your own style is the best, but don't promote hatred of shotokan or other styles. Why we should hate each other? Shotokan respects all styles of karate and other martial arts. We are all brothers. Let's respect each other.
Rintozone 3 weeks ago
One thing that every martial art aught to teach that Shotokan teaches is a fundamental that will help a person bridge the gap is the constant moving. By doing that you essentially start the process of constant state of awareness if you stand still even for a moment u leave a gap. I.e. shotokans foot work look how they never stand still.
lococavasa 5 months ago
Wow! Those guys are QUICK!
Roca15 5 months ago
@Roca15 If you fight, you fight .. not sleep.
Jozsef86330 4 months ago
Cool, please check out my Learn2Fight like Lyoto Machida Video Series
DanTheWolfman1 5 months ago
it was morio higaonna then, i thought so, using sai against a bo ive not seen that before and ive seen or have most of his work on video and dvd, frank brennan is fast as hell what a fighter
gojukanboyno1 5 months ago
Ippon shobu kimite is definately more fun back in the days. But hey! what's Morio Higaonna Sensei doing in a shotokan clip (@0.45)....?
gojustudy 6 months ago
I miss the "old style" kumite...
MegaNewbie100 6 months ago
Wow, some realy good fighters here in the vid. Opend up my eyes on ways of finishing an oponent. I have 9 years of yo-shimon karate-do. From age ten to 19 years of age. Lookin to join another type of karate school. Maybe, kyokushin, maybe not. Shorin-ryu or Shotokan.
93foxwcubes 7 months ago
ehh, who cares if karate is just a fightin sport and has nothing to do with a martial art... its a sport, just as football. football is just as violent.
TheDioces 8 months ago
well tall this talk of real karate and false karate... i personally learn it because i want more self confidence and hopefully be able to protect myself against the other chav..ahem guy... i mean shotokan is a good art for that right?? my gradings are done by sensei sherry who is the best non japanese karateka .. forgot where im going with this but i think for my needs its a good and very underrated art or sport - maybe thats the arguement ... that its now more sport based.. dunno.. oss!
BodomChildBreeder 9 months ago
To all guys and gals viewing this, my advice on IEKUKATAKA is: ignore him. Now I'm an open-minded martial artist, and in that spirit invited this guy, who is on EVERY Shotokan clip, sounding off and calling it BS, to show us what he's got on Youtube, so we can judge his credentials and testimony for ourselves. He has totally bottled it. So whatever he says from now can't be taken seriously; he talks the talk, but the I'm afraid the walk's far beyond him. What a clown!
masserby 11 months ago
THIS IS NOT KARATE! A warning from a JKA life member: I spent decades training and teaching this activity. Because of many contradictions I saw and heard, I began a study of karate from it’s beginning; what it really is, why it was developed, how it was taught, what it’s general syllabus was. The JKA has eliminated much of original karate and invalidated it as a martial art. They teach a punching, kicking tournament sport, not karate. See comments my channnel, study the facts, it is obvious.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA - Well although there are many who will no doubt disagree with you, I for one, completely agree with you.
200374 1 year ago
@200374 Then that tells me you have taken the time to study, read, observe and conclude the way karate history has unfolded. My regards!
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA yes, you are right, I agree with you.
It is becoming commercial as also entertainment and the ghost of Shotokan gets lost with that.
xReturnOfTheDeadx 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
youre right man but this one kata is sochin surely JKA im also a JKA member ... :)
Hendy2609 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Machida said the same thing about it losing the marital side because of the rules. Regardless, shotokan is still deadly even when its limitations in JKA.
aquin520 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Many of the best Japanese and Okinawan Senseis died during the World Wars. When the remaining went to the UK and formed in to the ISKF and KUGB they were made to make things dead simple and make them according to the western teen lifestyle. You can learn some real Karate naowadays,it's not impossible but its not common. But overall yeah,unfortunately we don't study what real Karate is. :)
ImperialPride7 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Yes what you are saying is very true, BUT when I was practicing karate I was getting my ass kicked. When I started with this I begin to kick ass not only in karate but in other stiles and arts. This is very score oriented.
gazamisaska 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Yes what you are saying is very true, BUT when I was practicing karate I was getting my ass kicked. When I started with this I begin to kick ass not only in karate but in other stiles and arts. This is very score oriented.
gazamisaska 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
I agree, I train at a school were they dont give about the sport part, they care about the killing techniques. From both Shotokan and other styles. I agree much marterial arts gets to sporty, in stead as for it was ment. Protecting yourself by taking down the other.
SuperiorSquid 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
I know someone at my school who has been on such sport school, but when he saw it sucked he went to a real school. And he saw the big difference.
SuperiorSquid 1 year ago
@SuperiorSquid I am sure he did, and, the operative words are real which implies Okinawan karate, where it originated and where it is practiced as a martial art and not a kids game.
IEKUKATAKA 8 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA cool story bro
SuperBluepurple 11 months ago
@SuperBluepurple Thanks, I get hell from the Shotokan bunch, but, the truth that is denied by millions is still, you guessed it, the truth.
IEKUKATAKA 8 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA haha you turd, some of the best fighters are in this vid, most of whom trained under enoeda.
jponsillo 10 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA some of the best fighters are in the vid, many whom trained under enoeda. try to find others ways to entertain yourself than engaging with randoms on youtube on matters you obviously know very little about.
jponsillo 10 months ago
@jponsillo What makes you think Enoeda was a karate practitioner? Know very little, I was trained by them, taught for them, how about you? Read the info my channel, obvious you didn't, and think. The operative word is think. Think about why this is so short of the karate syllabus and think about whether the Okinawans of centuries ago thought about a damned tournament when they were defending their family and their life. Think!! It is a novel idea not used much by the deluded who are entrenched.
IEKUKATAKA 8 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA This IS karate; it's just not YOUR karate. Some people like tournament sports, and some people think tournament sport is a perfectly valid expression of a martial art. If you don't, then go train a more traditional style of karate. No one's stopping you.
storyacoustic 9 months ago
@storyacoustic Delude: To deceive someone into believing something which is false. Some people believed the moon landings did not happen, some people believe in ghosts, some people, some people......... It is an Okinawan art, slick, and Shotokan, the JKA, ISKF, etc do not fit the model and, in fact, are hugely short of it. It is a corruption issue, an issue of deceit, truth and it is a moral issue in that selling fraudulent products is immoral and illegal. I see you support that?
IEKUKATAKA 8 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA Hello. You and I have spoken before. I respect your credentials, and I believe that you are sincere in your efforts to help fellow karateka. I respect that. In fact, I am quite interested in what you have to say. You are older than me, with more experience, but our paths are similar (traditional JKA etc). I note that you do not like sport, and I agree; but I argue that sport is only one aspect of Shotokan. If you can explain how chinte is sport, I'd like to hear. Respect. Osu.
njtr 7 months ago
If you post something do you use sepia ink on vellum sheets or a PC? While spending “decades training” you are obviously unable to recognize what Karate is today: 100% well represented by the modern Shotokan style under the patronage of JKA (DJKB in my case) anyway, it´s still MORE THAN A SPORT because a true Karateka knows about the roots; but this is the past. There´s truth in your comment but not enough for such a general statement. Best regards from a (well experienced) Karateka from Germany
Schatzomat 7 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA So it's still a martial art, even if you don't like it.
pastropmal 5 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA You're wrong.
BassaiDai123 4 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA unfortunately, I must agree. Karate was never Japanese. What we have is Japanese kickboxing.
elenchus 2 months ago
@IEKUKATAKA put cc on and listen the white range in the world >:D
gang1337grace 2 weeks ago
Best of the Best ..oss.
fredkarat 1 year ago
1:32 OMG what a wonderful de ashi barai....
FringeScience94 1 year ago
I'm a beginner in Shotokan. I am loving it very much. Although if I doget into a street fight I hope it would be effective.
SonicPAJ 1 year ago
I dont want to be mean against all those who praktis shotokan karate. But it dont work it´s no balance in the praktis of the stance and it just bad.... Train boxing or mma it works and it some freaking power!
trion987 1 year ago
@trion987 Everything about the stance in shotokan is about balance and power. How long did you do shotokan for?
bauer42 1 year ago
@bauer42 Obviously not much, Crescent moon stance is an excellent way to keep balance imo.
TheBlackB0X 1 year ago
@trion987 don't even dare compare both arts, shotokan & other oriental styles was developed out of honest sweats & bloody knuckles from centuries ago, when martial art was considered as the only way to survive life-&-death situations. unlike nowadays, their arts has been designed for purpose of mere entertainment. speaking of stances its the understanding of the kata that makes the huge difference!
shadowlancer45 11 months ago
These guys are incredible. Fast, solid, powerful. Why don't I see this type of style in MMA?
wonton00 1 year ago
@wonton00 MMA is a sport and the competitors train like atheletes. Many top martial artists tend to be humble and do not wish to show off or have anything to prove. fighting is a last resort.
shotokanbiker 1 year ago
@shotokanbiker Thats right. i alway wanted to learn shotokan ever since i was little boy. Ken and ryu from street fighter inspired me.
SuperPluto10 1 year ago
@wonton00 MMA is so regulated. ever fighter pretty much knows the same styles.
SuperPluto10 1 year ago
@wonton00 Lyoto the reason their isn't more is because of people forgetting the point of kata and mc dojos
SuperBluepurple 1 year ago
@wonton00 lyoto machida does this style and he was a mma and ufc champion.....
rozzabayor 1 year ago
@wonton00 it's bcoz in mma wht mattrs most s 2 entertain d audience. d more combo punches were barraged on d foe's face d more it excite d audience, d more dey profit in business. d reason why dey were required 2 wear gloves, s for d fighters 2 deliver as many punch as dey wnt. unlike n real no-gloves-no-rules combat in life-&-death situation your greater chance to survive is the attempt to take down th enemy in one strike at d same tym d endurance to take such injury. that's karate training!
shadowlancer45 11 months ago
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seantubular 1 year ago
@seantubular lol
wonton00 1 year ago
@seantubular that's funny
wonton00 1 year ago
Simply beautiful. I'm a hapkidoist, and this was beautiful
Swaa 1 year ago
@JDM867 Shotokan takes a LONG time to learn, but anyone that does not understand how deadly shotokan is, doesn't understand shhotokan. At any rate, I just do it as a mental and physical fitness regiment. The fighting is secondary. Osu
njtr 1 year ago
man is not easy to practice shotokan caus' every one can kick very hard but how manny people can atac with control
andumys 1 year ago
One thing I never undertand is..why shotokan take away Sanchin kata? I mean, the okinawan masters said that is like the heart of karate (purificacion of organs, stronger body etc)... I believe Shotokan failed at this
YamanoRyuu 1 year ago
@YamanoRyuu I don't believe Shotokan had Sanchin Kata. Shotokan was developed by Gichin Funakoshi from Okinawan Shorin Ryu and Shorei Ryu. I believe it is Goju Ryu and Uechi Ryu that have the Sanchin kata. I'm pretty sure...
44excalibur 1 year ago
Shotokan in Liverpool is legendary! Trained at The Samurai and The Red Triangle- didn't get any better .... Not even in Tokyo! The championships held at St Georges Hall will always bring a smile to my face. Halewood,Kirkdale or The Red Triangle were always in the final. No coincidence. O'Neill and Cattle .....LEGENDS...simple!
KeeganBrooks 1 year ago
I trained with Liverpools best in the 80s also graded right through, we seem to breed great karateka in this city, not just KUGB other styles have got world class practioners, must be something in the water. O'Neill and Cattle were my personal favourites, not taking anything away from the other legends who need no intro,Enoeda knew he was onto to something when he visited our city in the 60s! The rest.... They say is history!
KeeganBrooks 1 year ago
yup karate is meant to kill in life or death situations, mma is meant to do just what it does.....hug other guys nuts in the otagon ahaha
FLCL4EVER1 1 year ago
@FLCL4EVER1 Now how can you say that? Are you saying that it looks gay? Its not my cup of tea, but I guess some guys are drawn to it. LOL
njtr 1 year ago
whats the difference between Shotokan and usual karate???
Is it like the different "animal" Styles in Kung Fu?
DomHammer 1 year ago
@DomHammer sort of it's just a specific style of karate others include kyokushin, goju ryu, enshin ect
SuperBluepurple 1 year ago
@DomHammer there is no "usual" karate, shotokan is one of the great four styles and is significant for it's deep stanced and very fast fighting style
wakerofwind88 1 year ago
3:38 how old were those two any guesses? im wondering if they still have these sort of tournaments around
malziu 1 year ago
Osu!
CarlitoJohnson 1 year ago
This wasn't bad. Thank U 4 posting this. Good history behind it.
HalfCracker4life 1 year ago
Yeah'''''
TheShotokanryu 1 year ago
This was pretty cool. I likes it. (-;
HalfCracker4life 1 year ago
Shotokan is my style of fighting.Its awsome in street fights.
Darkshodow1029 1 year ago
Shotokan is my style of fighting.Its awsome in street fights.
Darkshodow1029 1 year ago
best of the best .years 80 90 .jka. shotokan trad. oss.
fredkarat 1 year ago
@incredimailboy
Shotokan is the best Karate for the streets. It keeps the traditions, but drops alot of the fancy stuff you don't need.
THEPECKONATOR 1 year ago
I train shotokan for 3 months now, and i am wondering how good shotokan is on street.
incredimailboy 1 year ago
shotokan is awesome.
womblewandering 1 year ago
Anche il mio stile è KARATE SHOTOKAN che dona controllo e rispetto per le altre
persone e non attacca mai.
Bel video.
Aurelio.
aurytube 1 year ago
shotokan is powerful
just look at lyoto machita
destrya4 1 year ago
shotokan is my karate style, i loved it it kicks ass
integra0guy 1 year ago
I LOVE SHOTOKAN!!!
kanneda123 1 year ago
indeed
Ballseye666 1 year ago
No disrespect to practitioners of shotokan but personally i prefer kyokushinkai.....trained in both and though i believe that no style is greater than the other (depends on the applicant), there are still certain things that make a style work....just simple simple subtleties that may react well with a certain person/personality......I LOVE KYOKUSHIN ...OSU !!
comrad1986 1 year ago
Just remember that Kyokushinkai is a hybrid of Shotokan and Goju Ryu, developed by Masutatsu Oyama. :)
44excalibur 1 year ago
Could someone please explain to me why modern Taekwondo is still thought to be descended from Shotokan? Taekwondo looks nothing like this.
TraditionalTKD 2 years ago
@TraditionalTKD
Well as joe8314 pointed out, Shotokan is authentic kumite, bloody and raw. No disrespect to TKD but I think that's aimed more at sport than hard combat, more use of high kicks that you would ofetn prove difficult to apply in real combat. Just my opinion.
Sherry200643 2 years ago 4
The free fighting developed by the WTF for the Olympics was purposely made less dangerous to appease the IOC. Original TKD free fighting (KTA and kwan originated) was hardcore and very dangerous. Fighters got hurt and killed.
TraditionalTKD 1 year ago
@Sherry200643 Any technique can work in real combat. U just need to know right time to use it. For example hooks, uppercuts, crosses and overhand rights have the power to KO an opponent. However, these punches are not effective if u try to use them as first strikes. U have to set ur opponent up. Perhaps land some combos to put him back on his heals. Once you've done this u have a better chance of connecting cleanly with a power strikes! Kicks are the same way.
osensei2987 7 months ago
ITF TKD is descended from Shotokan (and slightly from Tae Kyon), as General Choi studied it while in Japan (in his early years - achieving a 2nd dan).
WTF TKD (Olympics) is not, it's roots are from Tae Kyon only (no real use of punches).
jakekula 2 years ago
the founder of itf tkd gen choi before create tkd praticate shotokan karate ( he was 2nd dan) in japan. so itf tkd in the first time was very similar of shotokan karate, after that the tecnics was evolved. so itf tkd is discendent of shotokan......dont confuse itf with wtf tkd...because wtf is completely different.! greetings from italy
casafantosi 2 years ago
TKD shares many Kata with Shotokan, after Funakoshi Sensei took Karate to Japan from Okinawa many kata got renamed, so our Heian kata were originally called Pinan.
I'd bet that sounds familiar if you study traditional TKD. The Pinan/Heian kata were developed by Anko Itosu from older kata such as Kusanku into forms suitable for teaching karate to young students.
Anko Itosu is one of Sensei Funakoshi's instructors, and Funakoshi Sensei is widely thought of as the godfather of modern Karate.
shakkapanda 1 year ago
look at the kata's they are very similar. tkd emphasis is on the kicks and has added more variations of kicks. also you create power differently, shotokan snaps the hip creating a whip like effect, whereas tkd swings the hip to create momentum
shotokanbiker 1 year ago
@TraditionalTKD its not
DunxMeister 1 year ago
Because of the historical record?
ooogooman 1 year ago
this is the authentic kumite !!! full body sparing !!! bloody and raw !
joe8314 2 years ago
If there was any art harder it would have to be Kyokushinkai and that is even questionable. Gichin Funakoshi was a great man. So was Mas Oyama. This was a great post.
brotherminister1930 2 years ago
Shotokan moves so fast (unseen). Punching and kicking very accurately. Definitely the real art of war.
Rintozone 2 years ago 3
@Rintozone For example, I am certain that Bruce Lee here fast and acurate and he didn't did Shotokan ... I think you're wrong about this ...
Jozsef86330 4 months ago
Aint nothin like this anywhere man. Style not as important as having a good teacher but shotokan aint just brutal, its because its so precise that the damage gets done.
Sherry200643 2 years ago
my answer is take a style u would prefer every martial arts has its own strength and was mean't for the guy who made it so go around go through diffrent styles and pick one you like
tassadar61 2 years ago
Spartinez:
There is 1) Technique or Curricula and 2) Training or Regimen. This is what it boils down to and then it is up to the individual. Shotokan is a very good basic martial art.
Regards
thankful2one 2 years ago
Differences in fighting styles and fighting methods don't make as much relevance in combat as you'd think.
In my experience, I think it's best to focus on what fighting and teaching method flows better with your nature, philosophy, tendencies and your body.
Shotokan Karate is one of the most effective Japanese fighting styles you'll find, you'll have a very solid, all-around balanced, precise & well controlled style with a method of merging snapping speeds with devastating blows.
EyelessCatharsis 2 years ago
It'll all depend on how much the school/teacher plus yourself can max the real potential of Shotokan.
EyelessCatharsis 2 years ago
beautyfull
pontisexmaximus 2 years ago
for the people who didn't know that: wesley snipes has the 4th dan in shotokan :)
MMTwister 2 years ago
Really? Which association? Any evidence to back up what you said?
MikioOhta 2 years ago
i agree 100%, and thats what almost all mma fighters lack. but the ones that have that mentality separate them selves from the pack, like machida
60157788 2 years ago
OSSU!!!
Delmo67 2 years ago
thank you, now try explaining that to teenage guys thats think because they watch mma that makes them tough. and they dont protect their heads because you taught to defend before any contact to the head, its dealing with the attacker with one punch or combination and moving on the the next, unlike boxing and mma where you are taking many shots and trying to last longer then the other guy.
60157788 2 years ago 7
Many MMA guys that I have seen don't have very good standup. They stand right in range, trading and deflecting punches off the gloves, each one desperately trying to survive long enough to take the other guy down and have a BJJ match.
njtr 2 years ago 2
why dont they protect their heads, hikite seems pointless and obviously dangerous if the head is exposed and you are not grasping the opponent!
owagenko 2 years ago
i hate how youth see karate like shotokan to be a joke, Even though the world champ "Machida" is all shotokan. Im 16 and i take both shotokan and BJJ but i enjoy shotokan so much more and find it more practical. Oss
60157788 2 years ago 3
what do you guys think of Shotokan vs Muay Thai? I mean, based on this video, it seems that Shotokan is more efficient than Thai! And second of all, what do you think of Kumite vs Bunkai??
bunkai23 2 years ago
You don't see that kind of skill anymore.
Firewind451 2 years ago
If you look hard enough, you CAN find that skill, but it is few and far between. The problem is that people want everything NOW. They don't want to put the time in. Karate is hard work and repetition. Oss.
njtr 2 years ago 2
when i do kihon we tend to attck fast so we will react fast body over mind
GhostDotClear 2 years ago
1:10 is my favourite part. But anyway, I heard that Shotokan differs from other kinds of Karate by being more linear, but when I see practitioners of different styles, I can't really sense much difference between them. Could anyone shed some light on this?
YoshiroShin 2 years ago
@YoshiroShin
Wado-ryu you'll see shorter stances and more angular approaches because their focus is on sabaki (body positioning).
Goju-Ryu has deep stances and incorporates both linear and circular movements.
kamen25 2 years ago
You gotta love the 80's
TheCyberToad 2 years ago
i cant belive i stopped shotokan after i got my black belt .. if id seen this i would have kept going ... im 18 now and i got it some years ago .. i felt it wasnt interesting .. however watching this has changed my mind. much respect to all belts .
Synthasism 2 years ago
Oh man... Go back NOW!!!!! Some of the best karateka I know left, and came back. Remember, a black belt is not the end, it is the beginning. By the way my Sensei would not give a black belt to anyone under 18. It would take 7 to 10 years to get, and you also needed to do 100 pushups on you knuckles non stop, and with good form. Otherwise, no black belt. His instructor made a person who earned a blackbelt, put a white belt back on. You may have to be a white belt again, but GO BACK!!!! Oss.
njtr 2 years ago
I trained with some of them in that short clip, it was, Salford,
Some of them went to the Red Triangle in Liverpool, was hard, but true grit.
you had to love pain, no pain, no gain, thats what the saying was, absolute brill video. shows all the right stuff
Soxfudge 2 years ago
Very impressive. Some of those guys look awesome, an inspiration to us all. It seems like the KUGB is VERY good quality karate. Oss.
njtr 2 years ago
Mate, 100 pushups on your knuckles in one go is dangerous, that can ruin your hands. And it has nothing to do with karate. Your instructor sounds a bit of a psycho.
Mazten 2 years ago 2
LOL. Oss. Thanks for the concern. It sounds worse than it actually is. You build it up over the years, at your own pace, and with a proper fist. It really wasn't as psycho as it may sound. As for hurting the knuckles, its actually safer than the makiware, because there is no impact involved. It is a very gradual building up of the knuckles.
njtr 2 years ago
I've practiced karate for over 12 years (since I was about 2) ... one of biggest mistakes I've made was giving it up to see whether basketball would do for me... or not... :) ruined my legs there :) knee problems, torn muscles and 60% loss of flexibility... all in all :) I gave that up and started Jeet Kune Do... I'm 18 now too :) try it... JKD is simply a new way of experiencing martial arts. What I love about it is the ability to personalize my own style.. Karate is a bit rigid if you ask me
NRNproductions 2 years ago
Train along the 20 rulz of shotokan, and youll be a very respected and effective fighter!!!
Lyoto machida uses it as a complete life style, and look at the man, he is not extremly charismatic, but he respects others highly and he is highly disciplined as in not getting frustrated or angry. if u do so, u make even more mistakes...
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago
I am so happy to see that Machida seems to have kept his character intact. He has not turned into a loud mouth UFC punk. Oss.
njtr 2 years ago 2
the idea is to stun or critically strike your opponent. if you can strike the pressure points correctly, all the rest will follow. Bruce Lee probably knew this. What followed this training for Lee was increased speed.
aaronCapricorn 2 years ago
Bruce Lee was a wanker movie star! Wake up to yourself.
wskfqld 2 years ago
do you mean like mike tyson
Artbag1 2 years ago
Colour me impressed, this looks great
Shindai 2 years ago 3
why do all these shotokan fighters take part in point sparing and only on a rare occasion you c a karate fighter in continuos sparing
swarrior80 2 years ago
becaue they use control - muppet - if they really let rip someone is likely to end up badly hurt, not just holding a cup.
Sherry200643 2 years ago
I think the point to Shotokan karate is Ippon Kumite, i.e., in reality if the punch was followed through you would not need to repeatedly attack because the fight would be over. Shotokan is about strong powerful attacks as apposed to the lighter styles that would have to use several attacks in order to finish the fight.
Artbag1 2 years ago
I agree with you, but ippon kumite is also meant to help you recognize when your opponent is starting his attack. Look for different clues (movements, eyes, shoulder's etc.). I always train with that im mind. Once you can recognize when your opponent is attacking, pivotoing, and side and angle steps are much easier. Oss
njtr 2 years ago
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Artbag1 2 years ago
In reality mate they wouldn't even think like they do in Kumite. There would be lots of follow up attacks to make sure the attacker doesn't get a chance to retaliate.
Razamabaz 2 years ago
if techniques don't make proper contact or are poorly executed there would have to be continuous attacks. However I've seen the power of some of these attacks that can snap base ball bats.
Modern day karate seems to be orientated around competition sparring where you learn to pull your attacks and restrict the techniques used. karate can be brutal a properly executed technique will end the attack. several opponents may restrict time and therefore follow up attacks.
Artbag1 2 years ago
Lyotto Machida, the current UFC Champion is a Shotokan Karate-ka :o)
wskfqld 2 years ago
An interesting bit of information to throw at the UFC nut-huggers who dis on traditional styles, eh?
Videos like these make me wish I was immortal so I could train in every system.
kungfuman82 2 years ago 22
@kungfuman82 It is possible to practice every style in the martial arts. I know it would take a long time to do, but if you can dedicate yourself to do then go for it. That would be a huge challenge, but accomplishable.
shinbooks 1 year ago
@kungfuman82
I thought i was the only one lol
I wish i could train under the founders. I just love it
CobraVegeta 1 year ago
@kungfuman82 yep highlander all the way?
MrFreedomification 1 year ago
These vids are from legend productions - good shit man.
Sherry200643 2 years ago
where are these volumes???
dedalan 2 years ago
can't wait to get to my orange belt in shotokan karate, it is fast, its fun attacking my boyfriend when we spar
bradwluvr 2 years ago
shotokan needs to get onto tv.....cause i havnt really seen any shotokan kumite tournaments........and if it is on, please someone tell me what channel and when!
dodgingaces 2 years ago 6
Yea, wish it did I always miss out during Nissie week here in SoCal, lots of Shotokan stuff going on, missed it again this year! Just sucks knowing there are some dojos out there giving shotokan a bad name and tons more of crap karate dojos and people not knowing the difference between a good Shotokan dojo and a crap karate studio.
TrueStreets 2 years ago
As far as crap dojos are concerned, problems arise when instructors try to make Shotokan training more interesting than it actually is. The fact is, Shotokan is about repetition repetition repetition, until the technique comes out automatically , without thinking. That is what is taught at a good dojo. Unfortunately, this is boring to some students. They want to kick ass right away, but it takes years. Many students drop out because of this.They throw it all away and don't realize what they had
njtr 2 years ago 2
lol i think they had nothing until then
u notice yourself when u improve majorly
i also hated to do that for a time, but u gotta go through that.
but then again, only do it if youre motivated to do that. if not, get out, its better for all of us...nothing against the person
CarlitoJohnson 2 years ago
You're right. Some people don't have the discipline. But if you do something thousands of times, it becomes automatic. In a real situation, a technique may not come out perfectly (as practiced in the dojo), but, if you are mentally prepared for violence, it WILL come out. My instructor always said that there are only two rules. They are 1 "there are no rules," and 2"if anyone is going to the hospital, its him, not me." This of course is a LAST resort, and balanced with dojo kun training. Oss
njtr 2 years ago
Yeah dude, practice is the only way...kick kick kick kick and then kick some more.....eventually, ur muscles 'remember' the movement and it then becomes part of you..
ngaiflex 2 years ago 21
I totally agree. I'm probably gonna catch hell for saying this, but it almost gets boring sometimes. This is why people lose interest. But, repetition is the ONLY way. Kihon , kata, and kumite over, and over, and over.... Do your thinking in the dojo, during drills this way in a fight, it is automatic. Oss.
njtr 2 years ago 3
Yea very true. I personally like kata the most since I can really really get into it. It also helps when everyone is into it. That's why I try to kia the loudest, lol. Keep up the energy in the dojo. It's only after you become a black belt when you start to learn more complicated things like torite (spelling) or other grappling like techniques.
Where do you guys train? What Country/State?
TrueStreets 2 years ago
@ngaiflex I'd like to add one more thing to what you said. First of all, I agree with you 100% Repetition is the key. But, I'll add that, yes you should kick kick kick to build muscle memory. But this muscle memory is enhanced when you practice the technique with absolutely perfect technique, no compromises, and perfect deeper stances. Than in a real situation, where its OK if your technique is sloppy, your reflexes/muscle memory are REALLY automatic. This is why training is so precise. Osu
njtr 1 year ago
ShotoKan, the way of tiger.
Karate ni Sente Nashi
mehuejael 2 years ago
Awesome.
BuddhaViolations 2 years ago
i miss a lot this sport:(i was a champion 10 years ago..:(((
andypandy1781 2 years ago
No, you couldnt have been a champion at this 10 years ago. Don't lie in the presence of thousands of martial artists.
LordKitsune7 2 years ago
u r a champion, at lieing well done!!!!!!
shotokan1111111 2 years ago
extreme speed..
bibiman787 2 years ago
What we think of as TMA is a method of learning how to fight. There may or may not be a moral code to go with it. I know people who became good fighters just by fighting a lot. That was their method. They were helped by being strong and explosive from training in other sports. Martial arts are all about hurting people. It's foolish to pretend otherwise. To stay fit and be a better person you can do aerobics and join a volunteer organization. I also agree with MAfanatic.
Mavelette12 2 years ago 2
kyokishin is violence
yankesskillen 2 years ago
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madsno 2 years ago
"Better" or "Best" are relative... I'll go with "Practical" or "Accessible" for the most part. You see, it doesn't really matter about the style, per se, it's the artist's ability to deploy it. Tai Chi can be just as effective as Muay Thai or Judo - it depends on what the wielder can do with it. I've practiced three styles (striking, grappling, mixed) and I believe there is no "better" style - just better fighters.
kdonv 2 years ago 3
For fighting id say all styles are good, defending your self,there isent a right way to hurt someone theres no correct way to get someone off you as long as it works.But I do belive there are some styles that work better in the ring or MMA fights.I dont like that if a style dosent work well in a MMA fight that people belive it dosent work at all.The gloves and rules make it almost impossible for some styles,the rules basically cut out kung fu from any fighting sports.But no rules, they all work
GuamKomudo 2 years ago 6
Nah thats all wrong. which rules would u say cuts kung fu out of fighting sports?
ninjascroll6789 2 years ago
The rules of MMA are made so people dont get hurt right? This is the very reason Kung fu exsists. No groin, eyes, knee joints, neck, back of head. These are things kung fu targets. Please explain your reasoning... The Chinese made Kung fu because they wanted to defend from, or hurt other people. The orgins of Kung fu are violence, people figuring out what hurts people, what kills people. Whats the areas that hurt the most on the body?Best way to hit with the hand?Why cant Chinese hurt people???
GuamKomudo 2 years ago 3
i understand where you are coming from but you should watch lyoto machida fight in the ufc. he's a shotokan master, and implements alot of traditional techniques in the octagon. he even looks like he's even using the kokutsu dachi stance in certain points in his fights. did i mention he's the light heavyweight champion. i believe that maybe not as a whole but alot of techniques could be taken an used and prove useful in full contact competition whether it be mma, or kickboxing.
windowpain81 2 years ago
Lyoto is awesome, hes one of my favorits. People keep saying crap like "Oh his Karate is just alittle of his style, he also does BJJ and Sumo" Yes... So what, he did them, but most the KOs iv seen from Lyoto were from Karate. One of his KOs were a front ball kick to the guys chin, the first move you learn in Karate lol
I know in that MMA game you have to be well rounded, ground and standing up, but Lyoto is a GREAT stand up fighter, I belive the credit goes to Karate from what iv seen. OSU!
GuamKomudo 2 years ago 3
I have the same feelings like you when I'm watching Lyoto. Seems we're not alone and mad! :-) And how many times I've seen a guy on our trainings, who was unable to learn how to punch properly. Such guys usually are to weak for trainings, are leaving dojos and then you can see them in the T-Shirt with the MMA slogans... And with a little too big stomach. They are just "weak philosophers", as we used to call them. And they used to say that "Karate is not effective in real" - but the stomachs are?
trophy242 2 years ago
For sure, Lyoto did Karate sence he was like 3 years old... If anyone could use Karate effectivly it would be him... I honestly dont see where Sumo comes in unless your in a clinch and pushing or something. The beautiful part of MMA is you dont exclude anything, if it works for you, thats awesome! Dont exclude anything, Karate, boxing, bjj, sumo wrestling. There is a time and place for everything. Every style has flaws, but why not use what is great in each one and make a cool style of your own
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
I'm with you guys. Check out my channel for the MMA Karate playlist - a list of 35 successful Karate fighters in MMA.
War Lyoto!
Hotora86 2 years ago
martial art are not strong on its own, it all comes down to the skills and experience of the warrior who devoted much of his/ her time to perfect it.
Martial art was never meant to hurt ppl actively but only when provoked or for survival. To able to survive by using the techniques is already a good enoug proof that its effective and good.
solidevash 2 years ago 2