The one problem that I find in his presentation is that he says that a person should apply the same standards to their religion as they do to others. The problem with that is that the standard of every religion is the their book. Every Christian knows that all other religions are wrong because their standard is their Bible. The same for the Koran and other holy books.
Put an end to all of the guilt that you hold inside from the choices that you have made. Start life over with the slate wiped clean. Moreover, ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
I hope they get that religious exemption from delusion out of the manual for mental disorders. A large group of delusional people is still delusional.
this is so excellent, you come across these and think same-old, same-old and too long, but I get sucked in and they are wonderful. Got to buy the books, more food for thought. Excellent question by the Dr. at the end.
@Gnomefro As an example,rewrite and present my statement through a statistic construct:....50% chance = Atheism or Deism is correct. 0% chance = a particular religion(on Earth) is correct.
@Gnomefro, Deism,Atheism and agnosticism is in the same area of skepticism. Deism is not a "religion". Deism is based on the start in causality(cause and effect). Your example of "Cthulhu" is based on the imagination just like Christianity and other "religions". Again,there is no concrete proof of a Creator. HOWEVER, we are very sure "Cthulhu" and others are false. That's the difference. No proof to approve or disprove versus..... concrete proof that something is false.
"There is no real empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of a CREATOR! Hence, I am a Deist."
There's no empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of Cthulhu. Hence, you believe in Cthulhu? o_O Something being unfalsifiable is not a reason to believe in it. In fact, unfalsifiability is one definition of something being meaningless.
@SuperSam424, These are the facts. However, you have the right to believe in Christianity. If you as a Christian demand help from me I will help you especially in helping feed the hungry as an example. I also have the right to be non-christian described in the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. There is no real empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of a CREATOR! However, there is plenty of evidence to show mistakes in the Bible. Hence, I am a Deist.
WOW. Typical atheist. Speaks with logic without reason. Arrives to the definition of Christianity and simply mocks it as his honest objective viewpoint?? Ha. Simply ASSUMING God, the only truism, does not exist? Don't you understand that IF God exists (small if), the reality of the univser is going to be very different then we "offically" believe. You assume we recieve honest facts and not facts that merely appear honest??? I STUDY the occult. MagicK is real. Demons are real. IGNORance.
@SuperSam424 "I STUDY the occult. MagicK is real. Demons are real. IGNORance."
The time to regard you as anything but a crazy person is after you can demonstrate your claims. So far in human history, your tradition has been able to produce exactly zero demonstrations. Despite demonology being a far older tradition than science. A clear sign that it's nonsense.
The absurdity of the religion of Christianity( cult from a Jewish sect) : Look at the Preacher Eddie Long video! This video and action summarizes the inherit ABSURDITY within Christianity. The government of David( classical conservatism ) versus the government of the United States ( classical liberalism )! Any christian government is no better from the Taliban in Afghanistan! Anyone who wants a Christian government would be violating the Constitution of the United States of America!
To answer the question: YES! I have empirical evidence first hand. Example: Looking for an anti-chist which does no exist. Anti-Christ:The Roman Emperor Nero! read through my channel.
"Theology: The field of study and analysis of make believe; for the purpose of spinning reality to conform to the human imagination so the control of others can be achieved." -Scott Tebben
@JoeLaTurkeyIII *sigh* there's always a gigantic group of retards that got suckered into a pyramid scheme and they may take a loss in money, they don't lose it all. There are also a bunch of people that have imaginary friends. most have to see a psychiatrist. There are also people that believe everything they read in books. Even a further step, there are people that also stand on the corner yelling crazy things :usually bums:. But once they say "I'm christian" all their delusions gain validity?
Matthew 6:13,14 says - Heaven can be entered only through the narrow gate! The highway to hell is broad and its gate is wide enough for all the multitutes who choose its easy way. But the Gateway to life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few people find it. Please people, I encourage you to read your bibles and don't listen to these athiests. Jesus is alive and I am a witness. No matter what you have done, Jesus is ready to forgive you.
@01269832268 borderline christians should read the bible.. but interpret it for themselves.. they should find the contradictions, the violence and the bronze age misogyny .. the idiocy.. the first step to becoming an atheist; read the bible.
Here is the Good News. Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe He was raised on the 3rd day, then you have eternal life. Jesus was God in the flesh, He walked the earth was sinless, fufiled the 10 commandments and died on a cross for our sins to save us from His wrath! John 14:6 says - Jesus said He is the Way the Truth and the Life and no-one comes to the Father in heaven but through Him.
@01269832268 Here is the real news. Anyone that calls on god will be led to believe that they will be saved. They want you to yell it from the mountain tops so that you will give them your money, and your time, once you do that, they feel inclined to say "oh yeah, like ull totally go to some invisible place that doesn't exist at all, but like totally does" But then they say here, let me tell you this because when i say this, you HAVE to believe. "he like walked the earth because i was there"
You people need to be saved from your sins, for the Bible says that there is no-one who is good not one! For all people have turned from God and broken His Laws. Ever lied, stolen, murdered, commited adultry? Jesus said if you called your brother a fool you have commited murder in your heart. If you have looked at a person with lust you have commited adultry in your hearts! Your conscience bears witness to God's Laws. No Good people will go to heaven, for the Bible says that all have sinned!
2 Timothy 4:3:4 says - For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the Truth, but will go around looking for people (teachers) who will tell them just what they want to hear. They won't listen to what the Bible says, but will blithely follow their own misguided ideas!
Do not be taken in by people like that (continued)! 2 Timothy 3:12-13 says "Yes and those who decide to please Christ Jesus by living godly lives will suffer at the hands who hate Him. In fact, evil men and false teachers will get worse and worse deciving "MANY" having been decieved by satan! 2 Timothy 16:17 says "THE WHOLE BIBLE WAS GIVEN TO US BY INSPIRATION FROM GOD AND IS USEFUL TO TEACH US WHAT IS TRUE AND TO MAKE US REALIZE WHAT IS WRONG IN OUR LIVES. IT STRAIGHTENS US OUT TO DO GOOD.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 says "You may as well know in the last days it is going to be very difficult to be a christian. For people will be lovers of themselves and money, they will be proud and boastful, sneering at God, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful to them, and thoroughly bad. They will be consistant liars and troublemakers and will think nothing of immorality. They will be rough and cruel, and sneer at those who try to do good. They will betray their friends, the, hotheaded .....
1 Timothy 4 says - But the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some in the church will turn away from Christ and become eager followers of teachers with devil inspired ideas. These teachers will tell "LIES" with straight faces and do it so often that their consciences wont even bother them! 1 Timothy 4:7 says - Don't waste time arguing over foolish ideas and silly myths and legends.
In the last days 2 Thessalonians 10:12 - The antichrist will "COMPLETELY" fool those who are on the way to hell because they have said no to the Truth, they have refused to believe it and love it, and let it save them. So God will allow them to believe lies with all their hearts, and all of them will be justly judged for beliving falsehood, refusing the Truth and enjoying their sins.
This guy in the video simply doesn't understand, may God have mercy on him. I encourage you people to read the Holy Bible (KJVB) and see for yourself. Jesus is coming back very soon. Don't be decieved by this young kid who is leading many to hell. I must say, what this person is saying is 100% not Biblical, he has made a fool of christianity! What does the Bible say? Let God be True and every man a liar! Ok let the Bible speak for itself ......
OOPS! ''DELUSIONAL'' Christians pioneered disciplines ranging from oceanography to astronomy, geology to biology, rocket science to genetics.Any list of the giants of physical science would include Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Boyle, Pascal, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, all of whom, despite denominational and doctrinal differences among them & opposition from church authorities, were deeply committed to Jesus Christ. Einstein said- "I want to know how God created this world."
@MegaFloyd100 no oops can be implied, in their day anything but to toe the line for christian dogma was tantamount to treason.. and your Einstein quote mining is stupid and insulting... (I guess you missed the message..well that is a part of being delusional...goes to show..)
@daNDayati '' in their day anything but to toe the line for christian dogma was tantamount to treason.''
Wow,you win either way! Ffollowing your impeccable logic can i assert that all scientists are really secret christians ''pretending'' to be athiests is to ensure NAS approval & secure funding.!
The fact that doesn't even take Christianity seriously totally takes away his credibility. I am for Jesus and I was very intrigued by what this man had to say until he put those descriptions of "Christianity" up. What is he, 12 years old? You would think he would be more scholarly, as he claims he is in his rewriting of his book...an atheist who can go without making a critical comment on the "stupidity" of Christianity is a rare sight in any debate. I apologize if my comment disturbs you in an
@Triggerblame Did you by any chance miss the part where he - for almost an hour - talks about why he does not take it seriously, or why no one should for that matter?
@Gaybashingfudgepackr yea I guess I did miss that part. But coming from somebody who should have experience in debate and controversy, you would think that he would know to at least have some respect for the opposing view
Religion itself is based upon revealed knowledge. Perception is a kind of delusion and how could you explain delusion without perception of religion? Don't make people confusing with various concepts and terminology. Study revealed knowledge of Christianity and Islam in particular. You will find that there are similarities between the two. What make the two sources of reference different? Dare to do that?
@bangkitasal cognitive neuroscience and psychology provide the best explanation of why humans belief in agency when there is none.. or where "revealed" knowledge comes from.. the narrator also mentioned the negative correlation between religious belief and education.. take heart...yours has a cure... get educated..
@daNDayati, Knowledge based upon observation, experimentation are limited to give answers of the unseen. How do you perceive facts as truth as facts are related to changes, mutation, distortion , etc. All the key points mentioned in the revealed knowledge will help you in searching for truth despite human limitations in getting the answer. Many so called 'truth' in branches of science are no longer true and so truth are in fact false statements issued by scholars.
@bangkitasal wow, absolute gobble gook; you mangled the logic on that argument. are you trying to address divinely or supernaturally revealed truth? you are way off the deep end on this one.
@daNDayati , Human beings have to admit that they have limitation in doing experiments and making judgments. Holding concepts and principles made through thinking power per se will be stumbled into holes of falsehood. Every one needs to have revealed knowledge in finding truth otherwise deviated.
@bangkitasal "Every one needs to have revealed knowledge in finding truth otherwise deviated." Bullshit. Everyone needs evidence and careful evaluation of said evidence in cooperation with others. Revealed as in "Because God (read: the voices in my head) told me" is not needed. Ever.
@TomFynn , Not even a single word revealed in the holy al-Qur'an is false, contradictions occur when formulation, conclusions are limited to time, locations and many more. However, indication of truth as revealed in the holy al-Qur'an is clear and is from Allah swt. Anyway, you're to make conclusions of your researches but one day, next generation will put your research findings in baskets, useless.
@Thoughtitorium They cling to this nonsense because nothing beats the heady feeling of being absolutely on the right side and absolutely free of of all doubt. As Eric Hoffer put it: "A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves."
@TomFynn , You will never agree with things to happen because it is mentioned by al-Qur'an. I am absolutely certain that you will agree with the al-Qur'an when what have mentioned will become realities.
@Thoughtitorium , Cling to nonsense? Allah gives you air to breathe in, could you hold your breathe for 1 hour or a bit longer? man is unable to sustain life by himself, it is provided by your Creator, Allah. Don't be so ignorant.
@Thoughtitorium , Can you prove that you won't die? Allah says that every living thing will taste death. Whatever reasons to put forth, no one has denied it.
@bangkitasal I suppose your response means that you can't prove the contents of your holy book. The fact that every living thing tastes death is obvious from the fact that so far, every living thing has tasted death. No revelation from Allah required, just observation and a dash of reasoning.
@TomFynn, Yes, al-Qur'an is absolutely true. The problems are related to people who are so ignorant to explore truth as revealed and thus strayed. We may believe in what we think as true but anything experiences changes and thus discovered truths are limited and without strengths. al_Qur'an gives you direction - Human life in future. No one is able to tell you about life afterward except al-Qur'an. However, decision is up to you to make!
@bangkitasal granted, homo sapiens as a race has limitations regarding knowledge, but those limitations have yet to be fathomed. Your "revealed" knowledge smacks of the kind of imaginations that ancient desert dwellers had about the nature of the universe.. man and knowledge has come a long way since then... hallucinations and "visions" are not a good way to gain knowledge..
@daNDayati, Christians used to believe that the earth were the center of universe but al-Qur'an rejected it. What is your point to highlight 'truth'? Muslims aren't the ones who believe in hallucination , dare to study the truth in the al-Qur'an?
@bangkitasal and the koran 86:6-7 says that Fluid comes from between a man's backbone and ribs.. btw who cares what christians believed? most islamic scholars still believe that evolution is not the best explanation for the origin of species... ignorance abounds.. islam owns (and maintains) a good part of it..
@daNDayati , Check your source of reference, al_Qur'an not Koran which is written in arabic, translated into various languages. Translated versions aren't the original and the purpose is to give general understanding about the words of Allah. Unlike Christianity, they believe in words of priests and the bibles, subject to changes. al_Qur'an is kept safe in mind of Muslims and will never be jeopardized by any. Unless the reference is correct, I will answer your question about Fluid.
@bangkitasal I have read more that 6 explanations about the fluid (islamic scholars) so why does this perfect book (koran/quran) require "correct" interpretations and why so many? Elasticity (interpret as needed) is convenient.. not perfect. (correct interpretation should be exclusive.. no?) Is safe.. but had evolved.. the dogma then dictated the eradication of errant versions.. I am free to examine and criticize this book of yours, you are not.. no discussion needed.
@daNDayati, Refer to the original texts of al-Qur'an, do it yourself and ask well-known Islamic scholars to explain the versus. Since you're having problems of getting to know arabic language and the matter will be more complicated when dealing with revealed knowledge and Islamic faith as well, you need to have friends or Muslims families and stay with them for months or years. Getting knowledge isn't as easy as to fill up your stomach with burgers and hot dogs.
@bangkitasal Why is your "god" so inept that it can't deliver its message in a form capable of being understood by everyone without resorting to a langauge which needs to be interpreted by "scholars"?
Why , for instance can't it appear itself and speak to us?
@bangkitasal processed foods as an insult (must wrongly assume that I am an american..) no.. where I live we had the pleasure of politely asking the moors to leave (with the tip of a sword). Revealed knowledge in arabic.. that culture is understood.. but how petty and small your deity.. how limited.. arabic as divine and universal. How presumptuous. obviously gaining useful universal knowledge is not your strength.
@bangkitasal OK, so processed foods as an insult (must wrongly assume that I am an american). No,where I live we had the pleasure of politely asking the moors to leave (at the tip of a sword). You speak of revealed knowledge in arabic. How petty and small your deity, how limited having to use arabic as divine and universal. Obviously gaining useful universal knowledge is not your strength.
@bangkitasal now that we got the insults out of the way.. the fact that your koran is elastic enough to allow for multiple interpretations (and it is irrelevant that I should participate in those, I just observe the fact that it has been) demonstrates that it is elastic. The perfect word is elastic and malleable.
@bangkitasal then you have little knowledge of human behavior.. all written governance assumes an interpretation that is elastic.. and that (btw) is how islam looks from the outside.. a single book.. a myriad of interpretations and behavior. Now of course some will claim authority on the "right" interpretation and application of the principle described in your sacred text. Is this where you come in?
@daNDayati, How do you know that I know a little about human behaviors? How do you explain human souls as discovered through experiments? Be responsible in giving answers, and don't be silly and misguided by human thinking per se.
@bangkitasal I am glad that you brought up how silly and misguided by human thinking religion and islam is. Cognitive neuroscience provides the tools for understanding why homo sapiens sees agency and purpose.. the rest is cultural.. a misogynic deity is the product of an iron age desert culture.
@Thoughtitorium, al-Qur'an doesn't mention the figures which are subjected to error.Nobody knows exactly the age but it is very 'old' . Only Allah knows its age and how it was created. In our opinions, evolution? big bang? what else?You may find many answers to this. As far as relative truth is put forth, there are others to put ideas opposed to it. Ignorance of revealed knowledge will cause you to move in a circle without direction by using your last vehicle namely coffin.
@bangkitasal "Very old" sounds older than 6,000 years, like the young earth creationists believe. Do you think the number is in the billions like science teaches? And concerning revealed knowledge -- it's unreliable. There's no way to sort out which revelations are real. Even within a group of believers there are a divergence of revelations, and the prophets in scripture suffer the same problem. How do you know they had a revelation?
@Thoughtitorium, Was 'light year' appropriate enough to be used 6,000 years ago? Western world was in the dark age, people would have rejected it due to their ignorance.
@bangkitasal "All the key points mentioned in the revealed knowledge will help you in searching for truth despite human limitations in getting the answer."
It will not. If there is no observation I could make that can distinguish between a piece of hearsay("revealed knowledge") being true or false is is meaningless. It irrelevant to my existence due to lack of manifestation and believing it would be a blind guess that's almost certain to be false due to the infinity of possible realities.
@bangkitasal You'll also note that you can't even distinguish between "revealed knowledge" actually being revealed or invented by some guy who has interests in controlling you. Say, for example, extracting 10% tithe. The only reasonable approach to such nonsense is skepticism. Both to make sure you're not being overly gullible and because believing all kinds of hearsay claiming to be revealed knowledge instantly leads to a contradictory worldview.
@Gnomefro, Justify the truth in revelation by yourself. You will find so called 'revealed' is fake except al-Qur'an because it is bestowed to all people.
@AmethystForest While I appreciate this video, I am not an atheist. Your comment is closer to the heart of the truth than you may realize, with deceit being that spirit's chief tactic.
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For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and Godhead.
For the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteoussness of men who hold the truth in unrighteoussness because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God has showed it unto them.
the what if your wrong silly question is a scare for stupid ppl the fake hell heaven bullshit has no validity for those who are living in the here an now and are not STUPID sheeple !
the choice of religious beliefs are that of weak minded ppl who believe in things that make them feel good , only wishful thinking ! those who dont look for truths are IDIOTS !
ah well guess god needs us more than we need god lol seems this god really needs praise alot but doesnt perform much of nothing ! guess this gods powers have been tied by the hands of REALITY !
When it comes to sex slavery, it's not Christianity but ISLAM whose holy book permits it explicitly. Study Islam's history this year with moi free in your browser and understand current events better, see my profile for url.
You could repent. Moreover, you could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
You could repent. Moreover, you could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
I want to believe skeptics are fair. But (for instance) at 16:24 are three Bible references, supposedly to sex slavery. The first addresses slavery but says nothing about sex. The second addresses taking captive women as wives but specifically (in the next verse) says NOT to make slaves of them. The third addresses killing everyone but the virgins among a defeated people. Disturbing stuff, but not ONE WORD about sexual slavery. I would feel better if skeptics played fair.
@gmsherry1953 Point taken.. Lets not discard everything he said however, because the passage instructs killing the men and taking the virgins as opposed to sex slaves per say.
@gmsherry1953 : Slave women were in fact used for sex; there is no need to see the word sex in the verse if you understand what at slave is and what men do with female and/or male slaves. In the proper historical content it is redundant to say that a female slave is not necessarily a sex slave; they were not only all sex slaves but provided free labor because they were SLAVES! Which part of slavery do you feel protected them from sexual abuse? Was it the slave part or the slave?
@Naked4Jesus It's possible to own a slave without having sex with her. All slavery entails sexual ACCESS, but it needn't be used. That doesn't lessen the horror of slavery; it doesn't mean that slavery does not usually entail other forms of sexual abuse (like forced breeding). But most people would use the phrase "sex slavery" to mean slavery for the PRIMARY purpose of sex, and that's not in the Bible. As for what might protect them? Same as today -- a jealous wife with a knife.
@gmsherry1953 : Oh you're kidding me?! LOL! Yeah, and I bet there's a lot of things you can do with water but when your thirsty, you're going to drink! Don't tell me that every single master didn't "typically" get thirsty for some sex with a slave girl every now and again; ergo every slavegirl was also a sex slave by actual real world standards. PRIMARY use? If I ask my slave girl to make a sandwich even more often than we have sex, is she no longer my slavegirl?
@gmsherry1953 really, a general statement that skeptics don't play fair when you support this claim by giving only specific points from one speaker is a demonstration that you play fair?
the psychiatric definition is not to be politically correct. It excludes cultural beliefs and religion because they dont work in the same mechanism. There's a difference between psychiatric delusions and indoctrination/brain washing. Simple evidence for this would be the effects of anti psychotics. While they may curb psychiatric delusions you cannot alter someones religious beliefs with halidol. Therefore calling Christianity a delusion is a misnomer. Brainwashing would be a more accurate term.
There is way to test what you cannot see. It is called brain entrainment with binaural beats or isochronal tones. Meditate on your third eye. Astral projection is to be born again in the spirit. Test everything and hold on to what is true. Your brain is the machine that will let you access other frequencies that manmade machines can't.
@Beesnchickens "The Religious" is not saying "because I can't see it, it IS real" he is saying "just because I can't see it, doesn't mean it is not real." I think it is more insane to claim you know something for certain (denier) which you cannot empirically know for certain, than to admit that you don't and can't KNOW for certain but that you CAN believe (religious) See the difference? The "denier" is the one out to "prove" something, "religious" admit they can't know, but they can believe.
@Beesnchickens "The Religious" is not saying "because I can't see it, it IS real" he is saying "just because I can't see it, doesn't mean it is not real." I think it is more insane to claim you know something for certain (denier) which you cannot empirically know for certain, than to admit that you don't and can't KNOW for certain but that you CAN believe (religious) See the difference? The "denier" is the one out to "prove" something, "religious" admit they can't know, but they can believe.
Richard reminds me the speaker in the poem "The Owl Critic", and all the other "experts". It would seeem just as delusional to pretend to know what's not there as it is to pretend to know what is there.
From the film, Lillies of the Field: "To me, life is here on this earth. I cannot see further, so I cannot believe further. But, if they are right about the hereafter, I have paid my insurance, Senor."
The Christian mythology is, IMHO, quite fascinating -- especially the Greek variant. What the Protestants have changed it into, however, is nothing but a really bad parody of what it is supposed to be.
Can I ask a question - why do Atheists in general feel so strongly about this that they need to come up with five part arguments as to why Christians are headcases, hold lectures in front of thousands and call God 'a dickhead'? Surely if its so pathetically outlandish and nonsensical, why even bother? Why not just leave Christians to writhe around in their own foolishness and self-inflicted sorrow?
@Scamilton89 Because this "pathetically outlandish and nonsensical" idea is believed by 80% of Americans, and some of us care about truth. (The same reasons scientists once argued about the shape of the Earth, or currently argue about the nature of dark matter, etc.) People also base their decisions on this "pathetically outlandish and nonsensical" belief, along with political and social policies which effect everyone. ("Silly" beliefs are less comical when they affect the real world.)
@Flyborg Interesting. Cheers for answering bro. I guess it's difficult for me to imagine because I don't live in America and the Christians I know aren't chest-thumping rednecks who believe in a Jesus that votes for the Republicans, believes we should have gone to war with Iraq and hates gay people. I think that you guys who are Atheists are perfectly entitled to believe what you do, but sometimes I fear that the venom you spit at Christianity is because you see that "American Christianity".
@Scamilton89 Actually I'm not in America, but I figured it was a simple statistic that matched the location of most prominent atheists. (Worldwide it gets more complex)
I think I've heard many prominent atheists say they likely wouldn't care so much or argue so intently if religion was completely benign and had no effect on the world. (Not that argument would completely go away - as I say, some people just care about honest searches for truth, and find bad arguments annoying.)
@Flyborg Apologies mate. My point still stands about things that "Christians" get up to worldwide and I shudder. See the video of the lesbian lady that allegedly was pulled off her wheelchair during a Gay & Lesbian Pride rally by a "Christian"?
So often the actions of those who would call themselves believers in Christ make me shudder. I often wonder if Atheists really do hate Christianity, or if it's Christians they hate. So often Jesus is twisted into a political/social agenda and I hate it.
@Scamilton89 I don't know of any prominent atheists who "hate" Christians (and many are ex-Christians). Technically atheism just means "without belief in gods", not "without belief in the Christian God Yahweh", but Christianity is the focus because it's the big dog in the areas/languages that prominent atheists are/speak. The issue is usually with religion itself, as a non-self-correcting authority-based and faith-based system which can be "twisted" to support almost anything.
@Flyborg See, it's interesting, becasue you say "the issue is with religion itself" rather than political agenda based on religion, but then you say that "most Atheists would leave religion alone if it were docile and benign". Do you tar all "branches" of Christianity with the same brush as being pompous, judgemental and false, or do you believe that it could well have fallen into the hands of men who have done terrible things with it?
@Scamilton89 I definitely don't think all religions or all versions of Christianity are pompous or judgmental, but of course I think they're all false, and I think the system (having faith in the words of men who claim to speak for gods) is a bad system which doesn't lead to truth, and can be easily abused to support any opinion and shut down dialogue ("Don't question God!"). Yes, men have done terrible things with religion - but religion makes it so much easier. ("God says so!")
@Flyborg Sure. Case in point of that being your George Bush figures etc. Cheers bud, I appreciate that we've had a level-headed Youtube conversation without calling each other a wanker. You get some strange people out there..
How could atheism possibly be the cause of the holocaust? There really weren't that many atheists back in the 1940's, not nearly as many as today. Science hadn't advanced far enough, most people didn't know anthing about evolution, so that's a stupid argument.
You mean scientific atheists. There were still atheists before modern science. You should point out that the lack of moral conclusions drawn from being atheist wouldn't make for a holocaust. Unstoppable murderous discrimination makes a holocaust.
The obvious reason that the christian god has exactly the same failings as humans do, (jealousy, deceit, etc.), is quite simply because the concept of a god was created by humans. Notice how the god of the bible doesn't know any more about modern science than the people of the time it was written in do? Figure it out.
Creationists, if you don't like this video, don't watch it. Don't keep spouting these completely ridiculous arguments. Evolution is a fact. Nothing happens after you die. Grow up and stop being such a fucking child.
I agree that atheists in general have higher moral standards than christians. Mainly because we don't rely on ancient myths to tell us what is right and wrong. I've heard christians say, "if it weren't for religion we'd all be raping and killing." I suspect people who say this are secretly struggling with their own homicidal urges, and therefore think everyone has those urges, when in fact almost nobody does, atheist and christian alike.
I find it fucking amazing in the 21st century that people try so hard to disprove a science that has more evidence then gravity, but they are so intellectually dishonest that they do not apply it to their claims of invisible beings with super powers. Denying evolution does not default to God did it, it just leaves you at sqauare one with no knowledge. America is getting stupid!
"animals suffering in the wild for 4 billion years"
Animals "in the wild" according to science did not exist until 600-500ma at the start of Cambrian.
Not only is Carrier intellectual dishonest his logic fails miserably (as does most liberals) Carrier does not even know everything that exists in our own solar system let alone the entire universe. Complete arrogance
Its going to be fun to watch all the atheists scramble for excuses when Darwinian evolution is falsified in 10yrs
@toobsucker "animals in the wild...didn't exist until...the start of the Cambrian"
Baby, you're just embarrassing yourself now.
Of COURSE animals existed before the Cambrian. There were bacteria and soft-bodied creatures long before skeletons or shells developed. Life goes back 3.7 billion years.
In trying to ridicule people and ideas much smarter than yourself, you only display your astounding ignorance.
@PotterMarauder You're so funny! You call him wacko because he calls Christians delusional? That SO falls right in line with how a delusional person's defensive hackles will rise up.
But I will be fair. Pick ONE thing he says that you can refute, and we'll talk about that. You can pm me if you think the message will be too long.
Morals are a red herring to Atheism. Not believing in big foot has nothing to do with being moral. Same goes with not believing in gods. This is a typical tactic of relig-o-tards trying to defend their ridiculous beliefs. I really wish I was born at a time that people did not need delusions to cope with life and justify their actions. I really think the human race is slipping back in to another dark age mindset that will be the end of America as we know it.The world is laughing at us.
@nhbiker1961 God establishes morals. The morality of humanity is the might makes right. The robber is right because he has the gun over the unarmed. The Gangs consider it immoral not to do a drive by when ordered, to get off of drugs, and to avoid sexual immorality in order so that one does not use the service of their protitutes.
The one problem that I find in his presentation is that he says that a person should apply the same standards to their religion as they do to others. The problem with that is that the standard of every religion is the their book. Every Christian knows that all other religions are wrong because their standard is their Bible. The same for the Koran and other holy books.
Seeker64 22 hours ago
this guy is brilliant, and hilarious
TonyEvans96 2 days ago
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Put an end to all of the guilt that you hold inside from the choices that you have made. Start life over with the slate wiped clean. Moreover, ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
paularenas26 2 days ago
I hope they get that religious exemption from delusion out of the manual for mental disorders. A large group of delusional people is still delusional.
Thoughtitorium 5 days ago
this is so excellent, you come across these and think same-old, same-old and too long, but I get sucked in and they are wonderful. Got to buy the books, more food for thought. Excellent question by the Dr. at the end.
cjeffers101 6 days ago
Got to admit if I wanted a god I would have Zalmoxis! That's a Heavy Metal name if ever there was one.
lewisner 1 week ago
The Qur'an and the Bible are both false. Look at the Preterist Christians on Youtube.
cris750 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Gnomefro As an example,rewrite and present my statement through a statistic construct:....50% chance = Atheism or Deism is correct. 0% chance = a particular religion(on Earth) is correct.
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@Gnomefro, Deism,Atheism and agnosticism is in the same area of skepticism. Deism is not a "religion". Deism is based on the start in causality(cause and effect). Your example of "Cthulhu" is based on the imagination just like Christianity and other "religions". Again,there is no concrete proof of a Creator. HOWEVER, we are very sure "Cthulhu" and others are false. That's the difference. No proof to approve or disprove versus..... concrete proof that something is false.
cris750 2 weeks ago
"There is no real empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of a CREATOR! Hence, I am a Deist."
There's no empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of Cthulhu. Hence, you believe in Cthulhu? o_O Something being unfalsifiable is not a reason to believe in it. In fact, unfalsifiability is one definition of something being meaningless.
Gnomefro 2 weeks ago
@SuperSam424, These are the facts. However, you have the right to believe in Christianity. If you as a Christian demand help from me I will help you especially in helping feed the hungry as an example. I also have the right to be non-christian described in the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. There is no real empirical evidence to disprove or prove the existence of a CREATOR! However, there is plenty of evidence to show mistakes in the Bible. Hence, I am a Deist.
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WOW. Typical atheist. Speaks with logic without reason. Arrives to the definition of Christianity and simply mocks it as his honest objective viewpoint?? Ha. Simply ASSUMING God, the only truism, does not exist? Don't you understand that IF God exists (small if), the reality of the univser is going to be very different then we "offically" believe. You assume we recieve honest facts and not facts that merely appear honest??? I STUDY the occult. MagicK is real. Demons are real. IGNORance.
SuperSam424 2 weeks ago
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@SuperSam424 "I STUDY the occult. MagicK is real. Demons are real. IGNORance."
The time to regard you as anything but a crazy person is after you can demonstrate your claims. So far in human history, your tradition has been able to produce exactly zero demonstrations. Despite demonology being a far older tradition than science. A clear sign that it's nonsense.
Gnomefro 2 weeks ago
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The absurdity of the religion of Christianity( cult from a Jewish sect) : Look at the Preacher Eddie Long video! This video and action summarizes the inherit ABSURDITY within Christianity. The government of David( classical conservatism ) versus the government of the United States ( classical liberalism )! Any christian government is no better from the Taliban in Afghanistan! Anyone who wants a Christian government would be violating the Constitution of the United States of America!
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To answer the question: YES! I have empirical evidence first hand. Example: Looking for an anti-chist which does no exist. Anti-Christ:The Roman Emperor Nero! read through my channel.
cris750 2 weeks ago
"Theology: The field of study and analysis of make believe; for the purpose of spinning reality to conform to the human imagination so the control of others can be achieved." -Scott Tebben
scotttebben 2 weeks ago
This vid makes good points!!!
BlackSoulKriss 2 weeks ago
I hate other atheists. If we ask to not be persecuted for our beliefs why do we do it to others? Some people are such fucking hypocrites
RCR3395 2 weeks ago
*sigh* there's always a theist twat spamming comments
JoeLaTurkeyIII 2 weeks ago 9
@JoeLaTurkeyIII *sigh* there's always a gigantic group of retards that got suckered into a pyramid scheme and they may take a loss in money, they don't lose it all. There are also a bunch of people that have imaginary friends. most have to see a psychiatrist. There are also people that believe everything they read in books. Even a further step, there are people that also stand on the corner yelling crazy things :usually bums:. But once they say "I'm christian" all their delusions gain validity?
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Matthew 6:13,14 says - Heaven can be entered only through the narrow gate! The highway to hell is broad and its gate is wide enough for all the multitutes who choose its easy way. But the Gateway to life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few people find it. Please people, I encourage you to read your bibles and don't listen to these athiests. Jesus is alive and I am a witness. No matter what you have done, Jesus is ready to forgive you.
01269832268 3 weeks ago
@01269832268 borderline christians should read the bible.. but interpret it for themselves.. they should find the contradictions, the violence and the bronze age misogyny .. the idiocy.. the first step to becoming an atheist; read the bible.
daNDayati 5 days ago
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Here is the Good News. Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe He was raised on the 3rd day, then you have eternal life. Jesus was God in the flesh, He walked the earth was sinless, fufiled the 10 commandments and died on a cross for our sins to save us from His wrath! John 14:6 says - Jesus said He is the Way the Truth and the Life and no-one comes to the Father in heaven but through Him.
01269832268 3 weeks ago
@01269832268 Here is the real news. Anyone that calls on god will be led to believe that they will be saved. They want you to yell it from the mountain tops so that you will give them your money, and your time, once you do that, they feel inclined to say "oh yeah, like ull totally go to some invisible place that doesn't exist at all, but like totally does" But then they say here, let me tell you this because when i say this, you HAVE to believe. "he like walked the earth because i was there"
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You people need to be saved from your sins, for the Bible says that there is no-one who is good not one! For all people have turned from God and broken His Laws. Ever lied, stolen, murdered, commited adultry? Jesus said if you called your brother a fool you have commited murder in your heart. If you have looked at a person with lust you have commited adultry in your hearts! Your conscience bears witness to God's Laws. No Good people will go to heaven, for the Bible says that all have sinned!
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2 Timothy 4:3:4 says - For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the Truth, but will go around looking for people (teachers) who will tell them just what they want to hear. They won't listen to what the Bible says, but will blithely follow their own misguided ideas!
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Do not be taken in by people like that (continued)! 2 Timothy 3:12-13 says "Yes and those who decide to please Christ Jesus by living godly lives will suffer at the hands who hate Him. In fact, evil men and false teachers will get worse and worse deciving "MANY" having been decieved by satan! 2 Timothy 16:17 says "THE WHOLE BIBLE WAS GIVEN TO US BY INSPIRATION FROM GOD AND IS USEFUL TO TEACH US WHAT IS TRUE AND TO MAKE US REALIZE WHAT IS WRONG IN OUR LIVES. IT STRAIGHTENS US OUT TO DO GOOD.
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2 Timothy 3:1-5 says "You may as well know in the last days it is going to be very difficult to be a christian. For people will be lovers of themselves and money, they will be proud and boastful, sneering at God, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful to them, and thoroughly bad. They will be consistant liars and troublemakers and will think nothing of immorality. They will be rough and cruel, and sneer at those who try to do good. They will betray their friends, the, hotheaded .....
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1 Timothy 4 says - But the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some in the church will turn away from Christ and become eager followers of teachers with devil inspired ideas. These teachers will tell "LIES" with straight faces and do it so often that their consciences wont even bother them! 1 Timothy 4:7 says - Don't waste time arguing over foolish ideas and silly myths and legends.
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In the last days 2 Thessalonians 10:12 - The antichrist will "COMPLETELY" fool those who are on the way to hell because they have said no to the Truth, they have refused to believe it and love it, and let it save them. So God will allow them to believe lies with all their hearts, and all of them will be justly judged for beliving falsehood, refusing the Truth and enjoying their sins.
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This guy in the video simply doesn't understand, may God have mercy on him. I encourage you people to read the Holy Bible (KJVB) and see for yourself. Jesus is coming back very soon. Don't be decieved by this young kid who is leading many to hell. I must say, what this person is saying is 100% not Biblical, he has made a fool of christianity! What does the Bible say? Let God be True and every man a liar! Ok let the Bible speak for itself ......
01269832268 3 weeks ago
@01269832268 - "what this person is saying is 100% not Biblical"
So? The Bible is fiction.
LesignerGirl 2 weeks ago
OOPS! ''DELUSIONAL'' Christians pioneered disciplines ranging from oceanography to astronomy, geology to biology, rocket science to genetics.Any list of the giants of physical science would include Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Boyle, Pascal, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, all of whom, despite denominational and doctrinal differences among them & opposition from church authorities, were deeply committed to Jesus Christ. Einstein said- "I want to know how God created this world."
MegaFloyd100 3 weeks ago
@MegaFloyd100 no oops can be implied, in their day anything but to toe the line for christian dogma was tantamount to treason.. and your Einstein quote mining is stupid and insulting... (I guess you missed the message..well that is a part of being delusional...goes to show..)
daNDayati 3 weeks ago
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@daNDayati '' in their day anything but to toe the line for christian dogma was tantamount to treason.''
Wow,you win either way! Ffollowing your impeccable logic can i assert that all scientists are really secret christians ''pretending'' to be athiests is to ensure NAS approval & secure funding.!
MegaFloyd100 3 weeks ago
The fact that doesn't even take Christianity seriously totally takes away his credibility. I am for Jesus and I was very intrigued by what this man had to say until he put those descriptions of "Christianity" up. What is he, 12 years old? You would think he would be more scholarly, as he claims he is in his rewriting of his book...an atheist who can go without making a critical comment on the "stupidity" of Christianity is a rare sight in any debate. I apologize if my comment disturbs you in an
Triggerblame 3 weeks ago
@Triggerblame Did you by any chance miss the part where he - for almost an hour - talks about why he does not take it seriously, or why no one should for that matter?
Gaybashingfudgepackr 3 weeks ago
@Gaybashingfudgepackr yea I guess I did miss that part. But coming from somebody who should have experience in debate and controversy, you would think that he would know to at least have some respect for the opposing view
Triggerblame 3 weeks ago
Religion itself is based upon revealed knowledge. Perception is a kind of delusion and how could you explain delusion without perception of religion? Don't make people confusing with various concepts and terminology. Study revealed knowledge of Christianity and Islam in particular. You will find that there are similarities between the two. What make the two sources of reference different? Dare to do that?
bangkitasal 1 month ago
@bangkitasal cognitive neuroscience and psychology provide the best explanation of why humans belief in agency when there is none.. or where "revealed" knowledge comes from.. the narrator also mentioned the negative correlation between religious belief and education.. take heart...yours has a cure... get educated..
daNDayati 3 weeks ago
@daNDayati, Knowledge based upon observation, experimentation are limited to give answers of the unseen. How do you perceive facts as truth as facts are related to changes, mutation, distortion , etc. All the key points mentioned in the revealed knowledge will help you in searching for truth despite human limitations in getting the answer. Many so called 'truth' in branches of science are no longer true and so truth are in fact false statements issued by scholars.
bangkitasal 2 weeks ago
@bangkitasal wow, absolute gobble gook; you mangled the logic on that argument. are you trying to address divinely or supernaturally revealed truth? you are way off the deep end on this one.
daNDayati 2 weeks ago
@daNDayati , Human beings have to admit that they have limitation in doing experiments and making judgments. Holding concepts and principles made through thinking power per se will be stumbled into holes of falsehood. Every one needs to have revealed knowledge in finding truth otherwise deviated.
bangkitasal 2 weeks ago
@bangkitasal "Every one needs to have revealed knowledge in finding truth otherwise deviated." Bullshit. Everyone needs evidence and careful evaluation of said evidence in cooperation with others. Revealed as in "Because God (read: the voices in my head) told me" is not needed. Ever.
TomFynn 2 weeks ago
@TomFynn , Not even a single word revealed in the holy al-Qur'an is false, contradictions occur when formulation, conclusions are limited to time, locations and many more. However, indication of truth as revealed in the holy al-Qur'an is clear and is from Allah swt. Anyway, you're to make conclusions of your researches but one day, next generation will put your research findings in baskets, useless.
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@bangkitasal "Not even a single word revealed in the holy al-Qur'an is false," Hop over to Walmart they have tinfoil hats on offer.
Seriously, this is the 21st century. Iron age fairy tales don't cut it anymore.
TomFynn 1 week ago 4
@TomFynn Why do they cling to this nonsense?
Thoughtitorium 1 week ago
@Thoughtitorium They cling to this nonsense because nothing beats the heady feeling of being absolutely on the right side and absolutely free of of all doubt. As Eric Hoffer put it: "A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves."
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn , You will never agree with things to happen because it is mentioned by al-Qur'an. I am absolutely certain that you will agree with the al-Qur'an when what have mentioned will become realities.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@Thoughtitorium , Cling to nonsense? Allah gives you air to breathe in, could you hold your breathe for 1 hour or a bit longer? man is unable to sustain life by himself, it is provided by your Creator, Allah. Don't be so ignorant.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal Prove that the Koran is true.
Thoughtitorium 6 days ago
@Thoughtitorium , Can you prove that you won't die? Allah says that every living thing will taste death. Whatever reasons to put forth, no one has denied it.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal I suppose your response means that you can't prove the contents of your holy book. The fact that every living thing tastes death is obvious from the fact that so far, every living thing has tasted death. No revelation from Allah required, just observation and a dash of reasoning.
Thoughtitorium 6 days ago
@TomFynn, Yes, al-Qur'an is absolutely true. The problems are related to people who are so ignorant to explore truth as revealed and thus strayed. We may believe in what we think as true but anything experiences changes and thus discovered truths are limited and without strengths. al_Qur'an gives you direction - Human life in future. No one is able to tell you about life afterward except al-Qur'an. However, decision is up to you to make!
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal granted, homo sapiens as a race has limitations regarding knowledge, but those limitations have yet to be fathomed. Your "revealed" knowledge smacks of the kind of imaginations that ancient desert dwellers had about the nature of the universe.. man and knowledge has come a long way since then... hallucinations and "visions" are not a good way to gain knowledge..
daNDayati 1 week ago
@daNDayati, Christians used to believe that the earth were the center of universe but al-Qur'an rejected it. What is your point to highlight 'truth'? Muslims aren't the ones who believe in hallucination , dare to study the truth in the al-Qur'an?
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@bangkitasal and the koran 86:6-7 says that Fluid comes from between a man's backbone and ribs.. btw who cares what christians believed? most islamic scholars still believe that evolution is not the best explanation for the origin of species... ignorance abounds.. islam owns (and maintains) a good part of it..
daNDayati 1 week ago
@daNDayati , Check your source of reference, al_Qur'an not Koran which is written in arabic, translated into various languages. Translated versions aren't the original and the purpose is to give general understanding about the words of Allah. Unlike Christianity, they believe in words of priests and the bibles, subject to changes. al_Qur'an is kept safe in mind of Muslims and will never be jeopardized by any. Unless the reference is correct, I will answer your question about Fluid.
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@bangkitasal I have read more that 6 explanations about the fluid (islamic scholars) so why does this perfect book (koran/quran) require "correct" interpretations and why so many? Elasticity (interpret as needed) is convenient.. not perfect. (correct interpretation should be exclusive.. no?) Is safe.. but had evolved.. the dogma then dictated the eradication of errant versions.. I am free to examine and criticize this book of yours, you are not.. no discussion needed.
daNDayati 1 week ago
@daNDayati, Refer to the original texts of al-Qur'an, do it yourself and ask well-known Islamic scholars to explain the versus. Since you're having problems of getting to know arabic language and the matter will be more complicated when dealing with revealed knowledge and Islamic faith as well, you need to have friends or Muslims families and stay with them for months or years. Getting knowledge isn't as easy as to fill up your stomach with burgers and hot dogs.
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@bangkitasal Why is your "god" so inept that it can't deliver its message in a form capable of being understood by everyone without resorting to a langauge which needs to be interpreted by "scholars"?
Why , for instance can't it appear itself and speak to us?
lewisner 1 week ago
@lewisner , The best language is for the best which is revelation.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal Nobel Prize Winners by Religion (from a total of 654) between 1901 and 2000 (*):
Christian: 133
Jewish: 138
Ath&Agnost: 43
Muslim: 9
Bottom line: You do not get to lecture others on how to acquire knowledge.
(*): "100 Years of Nobel Prizes" by Baruch A. Shalev
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn But very few can evaluate truth of faith.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal Bullshit. There is no truth in faith. Faith is a delusion.
TomFynn 6 days ago
@TomFynn , Yes, faith is delusion as 'revealed' by Christianity but a truth as mentioned in the holy al-Qur'an.
bangkitasal 5 days ago
@bangkitasal LOL, ROFL LMAO. I suggest you see a shrink. You are clearly a case for the loony bin.
TomFynn 5 days ago
@bangkitasal processed foods as an insult (must wrongly assume that I am an american..) no.. where I live we had the pleasure of politely asking the moors to leave (with the tip of a sword). Revealed knowledge in arabic.. that culture is understood.. but how petty and small your deity.. how limited.. arabic as divine and universal. How presumptuous. obviously gaining useful universal knowledge is not your strength.
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daNDayati 1 week ago
@bangkitasal OK, so processed foods as an insult (must wrongly assume that I am an american). No,where I live we had the pleasure of politely asking the moors to leave (at the tip of a sword). You speak of revealed knowledge in arabic. How petty and small your deity, how limited having to use arabic as divine and universal. Obviously gaining useful universal knowledge is not your strength.
daNDayati 1 week ago
@bangkitasal now that we got the insults out of the way.. the fact that your koran is elastic enough to allow for multiple interpretations (and it is irrelevant that I should participate in those, I just observe the fact that it has been) demonstrates that it is elastic. The perfect word is elastic and malleable.
daNDayati 1 week ago
@daNDayati , elastic and malleable are for materials, not for guidance.
bangkitasal 6 days ago
@bangkitasal then you have little knowledge of human behavior.. all written governance assumes an interpretation that is elastic.. and that (btw) is how islam looks from the outside.. a single book.. a myriad of interpretations and behavior. Now of course some will claim authority on the "right" interpretation and application of the principle described in your sacred text. Is this where you come in?
daNDayati 6 days ago
@daNDayati, How do you know that I know a little about human behaviors? How do you explain human souls as discovered through experiments? Be responsible in giving answers, and don't be silly and misguided by human thinking per se.
bangkitasal 5 days ago
@bangkitasal I am glad that you brought up how silly and misguided by human thinking religion and islam is. Cognitive neuroscience provides the tools for understanding why homo sapiens sees agency and purpose.. the rest is cultural.. a misogynic deity is the product of an iron age desert culture.
daNDayati 5 days ago
@bangkitasal Does the Koran prove evolution, the 4.5 billion year old earth, and the big bang 14.7 billion years ago? I didn't think so.
Thoughtitorium 1 week ago
@Thoughtitorium, al-Qur'an doesn't mention the figures which are subjected to error.Nobody knows exactly the age but it is very 'old' . Only Allah knows its age and how it was created. In our opinions, evolution? big bang? what else?You may find many answers to this. As far as relative truth is put forth, there are others to put ideas opposed to it. Ignorance of revealed knowledge will cause you to move in a circle without direction by using your last vehicle namely coffin.
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@bangkitasal "Very old" sounds older than 6,000 years, like the young earth creationists believe. Do you think the number is in the billions like science teaches? And concerning revealed knowledge -- it's unreliable. There's no way to sort out which revelations are real. Even within a group of believers there are a divergence of revelations, and the prophets in scripture suffer the same problem. How do you know they had a revelation?
Thoughtitorium 1 week ago
@Thoughtitorium, Was 'light year' appropriate enough to be used 6,000 years ago? Western world was in the dark age, people would have rejected it due to their ignorance.
bangkitasal 5 days ago
@bangkitasal Then Allah should have made them smarter; or, he could have just revealed the true nature of the cosmos to them. Why didn't he do that?
Thoughtitorium 5 days ago
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@bangkitasal "All the key points mentioned in the revealed knowledge will help you in searching for truth despite human limitations in getting the answer."
It will not. If there is no observation I could make that can distinguish between a piece of hearsay("revealed knowledge") being true or false is is meaningless. It irrelevant to my existence due to lack of manifestation and believing it would be a blind guess that's almost certain to be false due to the infinity of possible realities.
Gnomefro 2 weeks ago
@bangkitasal You'll also note that you can't even distinguish between "revealed knowledge" actually being revealed or invented by some guy who has interests in controlling you. Say, for example, extracting 10% tithe. The only reasonable approach to such nonsense is skepticism. Both to make sure you're not being overly gullible and because believing all kinds of hearsay claiming to be revealed knowledge instantly leads to a contradictory worldview.
Gnomefro 2 weeks ago
@Gnomefro , Don't be stupid to explore truth from any reliable sources. Ignorance is the enemy of all races regardless of faith in religions.
bangkitasal 1 week ago
@Gnomefro, Justify the truth in revelation by yourself. You will find so called 'revealed' is fake except al-Qur'an because it is bestowed to all people.
bangkitasal 5 days ago
@AmethystForest While I appreciate this video, I am not an atheist. Your comment is closer to the heart of the truth than you may realize, with deceit being that spirit's chief tactic.
otochari1 1 month ago
I love this man. He has just spent 1 hour summing up everything I have ever thought on this issue.
MortuusBene 1 month ago
@thespiritofEzraPound : As an atheist, the burden of proof is not to DISPROVE; the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
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polterguy2 1 month ago
nice to see a speech where i don't have to skip through a ten minute long introduction. Thanks.
YourDogIsDeadHAHA 1 month ago
woohoo!!! ROGER carrier! seriously, this guy is pretty cool, but must have been a bit sad when an atheist announcer didn't even know who he was :-(
BozoTheBear 1 month ago
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and Godhead.
MrJcenter7 1 month ago
For the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteoussness of men who hold the truth in unrighteoussness because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God has showed it unto them.
MrJcenter7 1 month ago
the what if your wrong silly question is a scare for stupid ppl the fake hell heaven bullshit has no validity for those who are living in the here an now and are not STUPID sheeple !
flexbrat 1 month ago
the choice of religious beliefs are that of weak minded ppl who believe in things that make them feel good , only wishful thinking ! those who dont look for truths are IDIOTS !
flexbrat 1 month ago
ah well guess god needs us more than we need god lol seems this god really needs praise alot but doesnt perform much of nothing ! guess this gods powers have been tied by the hands of REALITY !
flexbrat 1 month ago
What a monumental crock of lukewarm cat shit!
tonestar100 1 month ago
@tonestar100 peace but.
bibleresponse 1 month ago
@tonestar100 christianity? absolutely!!!! good call!
daNDayati 3 weeks ago
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paularenas26 1 month ago
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You could repent. Moreover, you could ask God for eternal forgiveness through applying the death and resurrection of Jesus to your life of sin within the quietness of your bedroom tonight. As an unrepentant sinner myself, I made this decision around 15 years ago. This is the most important decision that you could ever make. - Romans 10:9-10
paularenas26 1 month ago
I want to believe skeptics are fair. But (for instance) at 16:24 are three Bible references, supposedly to sex slavery. The first addresses slavery but says nothing about sex. The second addresses taking captive women as wives but specifically (in the next verse) says NOT to make slaves of them. The third addresses killing everyone but the virgins among a defeated people. Disturbing stuff, but not ONE WORD about sexual slavery. I would feel better if skeptics played fair.
gmsherry1953 1 month ago
@gmsherry1953 Point taken.. Lets not discard everything he said however, because the passage instructs killing the men and taking the virgins as opposed to sex slaves per say.
Johnf85 1 month ago
@gmsherry1953 : Slave women were in fact used for sex; there is no need to see the word sex in the verse if you understand what at slave is and what men do with female and/or male slaves. In the proper historical content it is redundant to say that a female slave is not necessarily a sex slave; they were not only all sex slaves but provided free labor because they were SLAVES! Which part of slavery do you feel protected them from sexual abuse? Was it the slave part or the slave?
Naked4Jesus 1 month ago
@Naked4Jesus It's possible to own a slave without having sex with her. All slavery entails sexual ACCESS, but it needn't be used. That doesn't lessen the horror of slavery; it doesn't mean that slavery does not usually entail other forms of sexual abuse (like forced breeding). But most people would use the phrase "sex slavery" to mean slavery for the PRIMARY purpose of sex, and that's not in the Bible. As for what might protect them? Same as today -- a jealous wife with a knife.
gmsherry1953 1 month ago
@gmsherry1953 : Oh you're kidding me?! LOL! Yeah, and I bet there's a lot of things you can do with water but when your thirsty, you're going to drink! Don't tell me that every single master didn't "typically" get thirsty for some sex with a slave girl every now and again; ergo every slavegirl was also a sex slave by actual real world standards. PRIMARY use? If I ask my slave girl to make a sandwich even more often than we have sex, is she no longer my slavegirl?
Naked4Jesus 1 month ago
@Naked4Jesus : correction, last word was sexslave.
Naked4Jesus 1 month ago
@gmsherry1953 really, a general statement that skeptics don't play fair when you support this claim by giving only specific points from one speaker is a demonstration that you play fair?
crudbts1 1 month ago
the psychiatric definition is not to be politically correct. It excludes cultural beliefs and religion because they dont work in the same mechanism. There's a difference between psychiatric delusions and indoctrination/brain washing. Simple evidence for this would be the effects of anti psychotics. While they may curb psychiatric delusions you cannot alter someones religious beliefs with halidol. Therefore calling Christianity a delusion is a misnomer. Brainwashing would be a more accurate term.
rjesin 1 month ago
this is where a little soft shoe comes in handy. little dance, little comedy... suddenly VIDEO!
TruthSurge 2 months ago
There is way to test what you cannot see. It is called brain entrainment with binaural beats or isochronal tones. Meditate on your third eye. Astral projection is to be born again in the spirit. Test everything and hold on to what is true. Your brain is the machine that will let you access other frequencies that manmade machines can't.
TheWormzerjr 2 months ago
@TheWormzerjr LOL your incredulity is hilarious.
adwarakanath 1 month ago
@thespiritofEzraPound
"if you can't see it or measure it, it's not real." - the sceptic
"if you can't see it or measure it, it is real." - the religious Which is more insane?
Beesnchickens 2 months ago
@Beesnchickens "The Religious" is not saying "because I can't see it, it IS real" he is saying "just because I can't see it, doesn't mean it is not real." I think it is more insane to claim you know something for certain (denier) which you cannot empirically know for certain, than to admit that you don't and can't KNOW for certain but that you CAN believe (religious) See the difference? The "denier" is the one out to "prove" something, "religious" admit they can't know, but they can believe.
thespiritofEzraPound 2 months ago
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@Beesnchickens "The Religious" is not saying "because I can't see it, it IS real" he is saying "just because I can't see it, doesn't mean it is not real." I think it is more insane to claim you know something for certain (denier) which you cannot empirically know for certain, than to admit that you don't and can't KNOW for certain but that you CAN believe (religious) See the difference? The "denier" is the one out to "prove" something, "religious" admit they can't know, but they can believe.
thespiritofEzraPound 2 months ago
Richard reminds me the speaker in the poem "The Owl Critic", and all the other "experts". It would seeem just as delusional to pretend to know what's not there as it is to pretend to know what is there.
From the film, Lillies of the Field: "To me, life is here on this earth. I cannot see further, so I cannot believe further. But, if they are right about the hereafter, I have paid my insurance, Senor."
dgkcpa1 2 months ago
i notice, there is no mention of deism. :)
kikzit 2 months ago
Judaism and Islam should be deconstructed as well
TheLoyalhuman 2 months ago 2
The Christian mythology is, IMHO, quite fascinating -- especially the Greek variant. What the Protestants have changed it into, however, is nothing but a really bad parody of what it is supposed to be.
EnnoiaBlog 2 months ago
Cool. The Christian Delusion is now forward on my list.
daemonowner 2 months ago
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michaelsmith2911 2 months ago
Can I ask a question - why do Atheists in general feel so strongly about this that they need to come up with five part arguments as to why Christians are headcases, hold lectures in front of thousands and call God 'a dickhead'? Surely if its so pathetically outlandish and nonsensical, why even bother? Why not just leave Christians to writhe around in their own foolishness and self-inflicted sorrow?
Scamilton89 2 months ago
@Scamilton89 Because this "pathetically outlandish and nonsensical" idea is believed by 80% of Americans, and some of us care about truth. (The same reasons scientists once argued about the shape of the Earth, or currently argue about the nature of dark matter, etc.) People also base their decisions on this "pathetically outlandish and nonsensical" belief, along with political and social policies which effect everyone. ("Silly" beliefs are less comical when they affect the real world.)
Flyborg 2 months ago
@Flyborg Interesting. Cheers for answering bro. I guess it's difficult for me to imagine because I don't live in America and the Christians I know aren't chest-thumping rednecks who believe in a Jesus that votes for the Republicans, believes we should have gone to war with Iraq and hates gay people. I think that you guys who are Atheists are perfectly entitled to believe what you do, but sometimes I fear that the venom you spit at Christianity is because you see that "American Christianity".
Scamilton89 2 months ago
@Scamilton89 Actually I'm not in America, but I figured it was a simple statistic that matched the location of most prominent atheists. (Worldwide it gets more complex)
I think I've heard many prominent atheists say they likely wouldn't care so much or argue so intently if religion was completely benign and had no effect on the world. (Not that argument would completely go away - as I say, some people just care about honest searches for truth, and find bad arguments annoying.)
Flyborg 2 months ago
@Flyborg Apologies mate. My point still stands about things that "Christians" get up to worldwide and I shudder. See the video of the lesbian lady that allegedly was pulled off her wheelchair during a Gay & Lesbian Pride rally by a "Christian"?
So often the actions of those who would call themselves believers in Christ make me shudder. I often wonder if Atheists really do hate Christianity, or if it's Christians they hate. So often Jesus is twisted into a political/social agenda and I hate it.
Scamilton89 2 months ago
@Scamilton89 I don't know of any prominent atheists who "hate" Christians (and many are ex-Christians). Technically atheism just means "without belief in gods", not "without belief in the Christian God Yahweh", but Christianity is the focus because it's the big dog in the areas/languages that prominent atheists are/speak. The issue is usually with religion itself, as a non-self-correcting authority-based and faith-based system which can be "twisted" to support almost anything.
Flyborg 2 months ago
@Flyborg See, it's interesting, becasue you say "the issue is with religion itself" rather than political agenda based on religion, but then you say that "most Atheists would leave religion alone if it were docile and benign". Do you tar all "branches" of Christianity with the same brush as being pompous, judgemental and false, or do you believe that it could well have fallen into the hands of men who have done terrible things with it?
Scamilton89 2 months ago
@Scamilton89 I definitely don't think all religions or all versions of Christianity are pompous or judgmental, but of course I think they're all false, and I think the system (having faith in the words of men who claim to speak for gods) is a bad system which doesn't lead to truth, and can be easily abused to support any opinion and shut down dialogue ("Don't question God!"). Yes, men have done terrible things with religion - but religion makes it so much easier. ("God says so!")
Flyborg 2 months ago
@Flyborg Sure. Case in point of that being your George Bush figures etc. Cheers bud, I appreciate that we've had a level-headed Youtube conversation without calling each other a wanker. You get some strange people out there..
Scamilton89 2 months ago
he doesnt mention that all Christianity is based on faith and i do not find faith delusional
the bible is God breathed truth
sheryleann 2 months ago
So this is what atheists jerk off to?
ingaman 2 months ago
@ingaman At Least we can jack off with out a god worry about it ,,,,,so lame !!!!
npf2135 2 months ago
@npf2135 Haha! Good point.
ingaman 2 months ago
Fantastic talk, thanks for having this video available. I definitely added some books to my reading list.
Grungydan 2 months ago
i'm a christian but i want that book he mentioned so i can take it to church; that'll be fun xD
yoruichisempai 3 months ago
@yoruichisempai
I support your cause.
BeBoBli 3 months ago
@BeBoBli xD lol!
yoruichisempai 2 months ago
His nervous chin scratch is so distracting!
surfinshredder 3 months ago
Richard Carrier! This is a great talk. This guy is one of my favs.
pastafarianprophet 3 months ago
I like this talk even better than the book itself. This makes so much sense out of why we believe crazy stuff.
mjt532 3 months ago
How could atheism possibly be the cause of the holocaust? There really weren't that many atheists back in the 1940's, not nearly as many as today. Science hadn't advanced far enough, most people didn't know anthing about evolution, so that's a stupid argument.
8698gil 3 months ago
@8698gil
You mean scientific atheists. There were still atheists before modern science. You should point out that the lack of moral conclusions drawn from being atheist wouldn't make for a holocaust. Unstoppable murderous discrimination makes a holocaust.
BeBoBli 3 months ago 2
@BeBoBli
Exactly, that is why Islam is an appealing alternative to atheism..
kosiasko 2 months ago
@kosiasko Maybe so if you fail to read as well as have a lack of morals.
BeBoBli 2 months ago
The obvious reason that the christian god has exactly the same failings as humans do, (jealousy, deceit, etc.), is quite simply because the concept of a god was created by humans. Notice how the god of the bible doesn't know any more about modern science than the people of the time it was written in do? Figure it out.
8698gil 3 months ago
Creationists, if you don't like this video, don't watch it. Don't keep spouting these completely ridiculous arguments. Evolution is a fact. Nothing happens after you die. Grow up and stop being such a fucking child.
8698gil 3 months ago
I agree that atheists in general have higher moral standards than christians. Mainly because we don't rely on ancient myths to tell us what is right and wrong. I've heard christians say, "if it weren't for religion we'd all be raping and killing." I suspect people who say this are secretly struggling with their own homicidal urges, and therefore think everyone has those urges, when in fact almost nobody does, atheist and christian alike.
8698gil 3 months ago
Good stuff. watched it all.
yootesa1515 3 months ago
I find it fucking amazing in the 21st century that people try so hard to disprove a science that has more evidence then gravity, but they are so intellectually dishonest that they do not apply it to their claims of invisible beings with super powers. Denying evolution does not default to God did it, it just leaves you at sqauare one with no knowledge. America is getting stupid!
nhbiker1961 4 months ago
LOL@Carrier.
"animals suffering in the wild for 4 billion years"
Animals "in the wild" according to science did not exist until 600-500ma at the start of Cambrian.
Not only is Carrier intellectual dishonest his logic fails miserably (as does most liberals) Carrier does not even know everything that exists in our own solar system let alone the entire universe. Complete arrogance
Its going to be fun to watch all the atheists scramble for excuses when Darwinian evolution is falsified in 10yrs
toobsucker 4 months ago
@toobsucker "animals in the wild...didn't exist until...the start of the Cambrian"
Baby, you're just embarrassing yourself now.
Of COURSE animals existed before the Cambrian. There were bacteria and soft-bodied creatures long before skeletons or shells developed. Life goes back 3.7 billion years.
In trying to ridicule people and ideas much smarter than yourself, you only display your astounding ignorance.
Crunchy68 4 months ago
Wow. There are so many things I could say about this video, but it would be too much to type. This guy is a complete wacko.
PotterMarauder 4 months ago
@PotterMarauder You're so funny! You call him wacko because he calls Christians delusional? That SO falls right in line with how a delusional person's defensive hackles will rise up.
But I will be fair. Pick ONE thing he says that you can refute, and we'll talk about that. You can pm me if you think the message will be too long.
Crunchy68 4 months ago
@PotterMarauder Why do you think he's a complete wacko? You don't have to write an essay about it. Just give one or two reasons.
Smithpolly 2 months ago
What is the difference between a Christian and a terrorist? You can negotiate with a terrorist!
nhbiker1961 4 months ago 22
Anybody know any good Jesus jokes?
nhbiker1961 4 months ago
Morals are a red herring to Atheism. Not believing in big foot has nothing to do with being moral. Same goes with not believing in gods. This is a typical tactic of relig-o-tards trying to defend their ridiculous beliefs. I really wish I was born at a time that people did not need delusions to cope with life and justify their actions. I really think the human race is slipping back in to another dark age mindset that will be the end of America as we know it.The world is laughing at us.
nhbiker1961 4 months ago
@nhbiker1961 God establishes morals. The morality of humanity is the might makes right. The robber is right because he has the gun over the unarmed. The Gangs consider it immoral not to do a drive by when ordered, to get off of drugs, and to avoid sexual immorality in order so that one does not use the service of their protitutes.
BernieEOD 4 months ago