Every statement made about railways at the beginning of this program should have a subtitled underneath "Not in the UK,the inventors of the railways and steam locomotion",While the world was updating their locos and expanding their networks the UK was busy ripping up all our track and cutting up the loco's and rolling stock.
Rails are this country. Highway don't make money RRs do Planes are just flying tin cans. RRs saved our asses many times and will save our asses next time we need then. When was the last time a RR needed a bailout.
Okay, SP 4449 is NOT the most beautiful steam loco in the world! it may be good-looking and it may be fast, but Flying Scotsman, Mallard and King George V trump it. Sorry, but they're more elegantly designed, FACT. The coolest steam engine, though, is Big Boy, gotta admit ;)
The Most Beautiful Steam Engine ever was the "UP Challenger'", the most beautiful Road Diesel ever was the UP & C&NW "Standard Cab C40 Dash 8"! The most beautiful Switcher ever was the C&NW "MP15 AC"! End of story Boys & Girls, haha! PS: I do not like UP Management, but their Train Crews are great!
I love the 4449, but I wouldn't say it's the most beautiful, in my eyes the N&W Js and the NKP Berks were the most beautiful steam locos in the world. At least in my opinion. No offense to the 4449, and it's not the only surviving streamlined locomotive the 611 is still here, it may not be operating but it's still here.
@AdmiralArcher@AdmiralArcher: Acela Express trains are the only true high-speed trainsets in North America; the highest speed they attain is 150 mph (240 km/h), though they average less than half of that. French TGV = 350mph top speed.
In Japan there is also a lot of really fast trains.
Boeing 747 top speed is 1040 km/h that is 185 km/h below the speed of sound (1235 km/h), I also heard that it's engine is capable of making it reach higher than that, but the wing shape would prevent it from breaking into the sound barrier since they are not delta shaped. I don't think that we are making a fair comparison here !!
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I wouldn't go quite as far as saying that the train is the most important invention in history, the aeroplane will take care of that job. And while a French train can go 320 mph, a Boeing 747 will go 587 mph. And I could even mention Concorde, which could reach a mere Mach 1.
I don't think anyone is talking about air transportation here, and I believe no one has actually been generalizing or implying that trains are the mankind history's most important inventions above everything else. Yet if you want to bring B747 and Concorde into the debate, then just anyone can bring rockets and space shuttles to debunk you.
The reason I brought up air transportation in this "debate" as you seem to think it is is because the video clearly states that the train is 'the most important invention in history', whereas I think otherwise (the plane is far more important)...so that's the reason I mentioned it beforehand.
Bull, the railroad has done far more for counties then any airline or airplane. Look at the Daylight 4449, one of the greatest locomotives ever built and try to explain how a B747 is better?
Actually the press was at Kings Cross and the locomotive stopped at Peterborough- and it wasn't exactly 'badly damaged'- it was back in service less than three weeks later. Documentaries should get their facts right before even starting on conjecture like what is the most beautiful locomotive ever.
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You kidding me? It looks like it has a tumour on the "face". And I don't like the odd livery either. The A4s and 7Ps are much more appealing to the eyes.
On the same sort of note, the programme is obvious bias to make big-headed Americans feel superior to everyone else. They only mention Mallard for under a minute, and then go "BUT LUK AT DA GR8 AMERIKKKAN ENGUNS DEY R TEH BIGUST AND MOST BUTIFUL CUZ WE SAY SO GOD BLESS MURIKKA AMIRITE?"
Actually the german ICE-Velaro is the fastest serial-train in the world. Without spectacle it is able to run (251mph/404 kmh) -- every day, every hour. This TGV ran under test-condition, special preparation, abnormal 30.000 V High-Voltage and special tracks. The test-train was outweared after 10-Min. and with 30 Mio. Euro a one-way-ticket is a little bit too expensive. Old technic boosted up for one time. Alstom needs years to follow Siemens-technology to compete with the brandnew ICE-Velaro.
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A normal TGV goes at 408KM/h in 1988 far before your ICE, and the lastest record is 574.8Km/h, so the ICE is just a shit, alstom is far more advanced than siemens that s all, you re jalous!
the max speed reached by a "normal" tgv (a tgv reseau) has been 366 km/h on the LGV Med in 2001. All the other records have been reached by modified tgv trainset... :)
If you apply the same modifies to the ICE, it can reach the same result :)
@Cre7tiv : Yeah, that's the reason why DB is hiring french TGVs to ensure their service between Frankfurt and Paris. ICE just burned their poor engines, running at 320 km/h under 25 kV in France. Sorry but, there's a record 574,8, and your conjectures. There is facts (DB hiring TGVs) and your conjecture. There is a crash with +110 dead with ICE in germany, no dead ever onboard a TGV. Now you talk, but TGV is the best.
wait a sec no one knew the mallard was going for 126mph run, the ppl's who knew was Sir nigel gresley, fireman and the driver, they where orgianly ment to be doing a brake test, U can tell this porgam was made by Yanks. LOAD OF CRAP!!!!!!! just becuse we built the fastest steam engine.
Speed wise, SP 4449 would eat Mallard if she were pushed hard enough!
Jemalacane 1 week ago
At least the Brits have a better railway system than America, Australia and Canada .
Sarov452 3 months ago
Thank you SO much for uploading this! I've been looking for this for years! :)
RobertMProductions 4 months ago
The mallards record was broken, Former Pennsy 4-4-2 7002 reached 127.2 mph.
TheMythfox 4 months ago
Every statement made about railways at the beginning of this program should have a subtitled underneath "Not in the UK,the inventors of the railways and steam locomotion",While the world was updating their locos and expanding their networks the UK was busy ripping up all our track and cutting up the loco's and rolling stock.
silver760 5 months ago
poor sound quality
homedad40 6 months ago
great documentary, bad audio and video quality.Thanks anyway
EduSanjuan777 6 months ago
@EduSanjuan777 dude its from a vhs tape what do you expect?
TheThefishmaster 5 months ago
Ther are no more SP daylight cars left are there?
trainguy3 6 months ago
Eh.. they only reason why I wouldnt watch this is if there where 8 kids and two parents named Jon and Kate riding it...
Nighthawk262 8 months ago
Does anyone know that the narrator for ""EXTREME MACHINES" is William Hootkins. He was RED 6 in Star Wars IV.
r2d2sue 9 months ago
I remember this. Back in the days when TLC was actually educational, instead of today's crap.
trinityct 10 months ago
Rails are this country. Highway don't make money RRs do Planes are just flying tin cans. RRs saved our asses many times and will save our asses next time we need then. When was the last time a RR needed a bailout.
LycoValleyRRFan 1 year ago
Okay, SP 4449 is NOT the most beautiful steam loco in the world! it may be good-looking and it may be fast, but Flying Scotsman, Mallard and King George V trump it. Sorry, but they're more elegantly designed, FACT. The coolest steam engine, though, is Big Boy, gotta admit ;)
59n1tr0n72 1 year ago
Also Beautiful was the SP "High Nose SD9's & GP9's"!!
48alfaone 1 year ago
The Most Beautiful Steam Engine ever was the "UP Challenger'", the most beautiful Road Diesel ever was the UP & C&NW "Standard Cab C40 Dash 8"! The most beautiful Switcher ever was the C&NW "MP15 AC"! End of story Boys & Girls, haha! PS: I do not like UP Management, but their Train Crews are great!
48alfaone 1 year ago
uhm, is else anyone shocked by how off the subtitles are???
sicilian12345 1 year ago
I love the 4449, but I wouldn't say it's the most beautiful, in my eyes the N&W Js and the NKP Berks were the most beautiful steam locos in the world. At least in my opinion. No offense to the 4449, and it's not the only surviving streamlined locomotive the 611 is still here, it may not be operating but it's still here.
765Genobreaker 1 year ago
"the speed of this engine is only held by the guts of the engineer" nope, fraid its health and saftey that's got yeh by the ropes there :P
trainlover658 1 year ago
Can New York's AMTRAK Acela go that fast like the TGV?
AdmiralArcher 1 year ago
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Firelife3 1 year ago
@AdmiralArcher @AdmiralArcher: Acela Express trains are the only true high-speed trainsets in North America; the highest speed they attain is 150 mph (240 km/h), though they average less than half of that. French TGV = 350mph top speed.
In Japan there is also a lot of really fast trains.
Firelife3 1 year ago
@Firelife3 Does Japan have a TGV. or InnerCity Express train? For the ones in China REALLY kicked some serious "S"/
AdmiralArcher 1 year ago
Imagine a train under the Atlantic traveling at a thousand miles an hour!!
bbanksy1 1 year ago
Imagine a train across the Atlantic ;D
Charles2337 1 year ago
Dude, whoever did the subtitles did a crappy job... TGV is not KGB, Mallard was July 3rd, not July 5th, and Doyle McCormicks name is NOT Dormitory!
ALS2001 1 year ago
Good video :X 5 stars
regionaltrans 1 year ago
About 4449: most beautiful currently in existance, yes. Most beautiful ever bult, no. I think that record has to go the streamlined NYC Hudson.
caddy59 1 year ago
Any1 seen the episode when the Titan was chasing the car?
Hotshotmech38 1 year ago
betamax?
wowiejunior 1 year ago
I remember watching these in the early 2000s. Cool!
Tuppoo94 1 year ago
its called MALLARD not "mallerd"
matanuialive2010 1 year ago
Never new Mallard crippled herself on the record run
Benjy5997 1 year ago
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binoyrakesh 1 year ago
I LOVE the 'porn film' quality!
newtongrace 2 years ago 7
It was a 126!!! mph. If u dont believe me go to the NRM
RPSI1718541864613BG 2 years ago
Most of that footage of the Mallard was taken in the 50s and 60s. Mallard broke the record back in the LNER era, before British Railways.
KingofTomedy 2 years ago
THE RISE OF THE MACHINE
SHINKANSEN vs TGVATOR
BRRUUUAAHHable 2 years ago
eh, i dunno i haven't topped out my car yet....
TheBlairSmithProject 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
NRM york
paking07 2 years ago
6:29 does anybody know that soundtrack??))))))
carb5551 2 years ago
TGV kinda creep me out!!! i wonder if your on the roof at full speed!lolXD
yujin04 2 years ago
@yujin04 : if your on the roof, you'll be fried by the 25kV power line ! Some tried, they're dead now. Want to play "hot dog" ?
CaptainDangeax 1 year ago
Gotta clean that VHS, man! :-)
JoshA1977 3 years ago
GO TGV
LyokoTravels 3 years ago
Oh my God, TLC when it actually had educational programming.
joshuapeg 3 years ago 39
@joshuapeg
Lmaoo I know right. Since when were shows about families with 12 children educational.
Charles2337 1 year ago
@joshuapeg Nothing can be farther from the truth!
TopThrillDan 1 year ago
Thats some crappy audio
VideoFreakAustinT 3 years ago
574.8 world record on rail for the tgv now or 357mph
benoit91220 3 years ago
Boeing 747 top speed is 1040 km/h that is 185 km/h below the speed of sound (1235 km/h), I also heard that it's engine is capable of making it reach higher than that, but the wing shape would prevent it from breaking into the sound barrier since they are not delta shaped. I don't think that we are making a fair comparison here !!
ripmas 3 years ago
yes but when did you last hear of a train falling out of the sky
elixaristhedragon 2 years ago 3
Most normal airliners can beat that easily. Plus, the TGV can't maintain that sort of speed on average, whereas a plane can.
keptnplanet 3 years ago
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I wouldn't go quite as far as saying that the train is the most important invention in history, the aeroplane will take care of that job. And while a French train can go 320 mph, a Boeing 747 will go 587 mph. And I could even mention Concorde, which could reach a mere Mach 1.
Carlovingjosh 3 years ago
True but its not easy to stop and start a boeing 747 along its route.
Where as a train is.
But i agree its not the most important invention, in history.
Adamw5433 3 years ago
Mach 2
travers114 3 years ago
@Carlovingjosh
I don't think anyone is talking about air transportation here, and I believe no one has actually been generalizing or implying that trains are the mankind history's most important inventions above everything else. Yet if you want to bring B747 and Concorde into the debate, then just anyone can bring rockets and space shuttles to debunk you.
kepundengz2003 3 years ago 3
The reason I brought up air transportation in this "debate" as you seem to think it is is because the video clearly states that the train is 'the most important invention in history', whereas I think otherwise (the plane is far more important)...so that's the reason I mentioned it beforehand.
Carlovingjosh 3 years ago
Bull, the railroad has done far more for counties then any airline or airplane. Look at the Daylight 4449, one of the greatest locomotives ever built and try to explain how a B747 is better?
trainlord11 2 years ago 21
@trainlord11 easy, the "Airplane" film
USAFSmiley87 1 year ago
@trainlord11 there is also the class A4 pacific of the London & North Eastern Railway known for Mallard and the class A3 Flying scotsman
matanuialive2010 11 months ago
@trainlord11 I'ts faster, can fly across continents with more people, but it's still not better than the SP 4449
trainguy3 6 months ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
Machines seen on this program are just made in superpowers for superpowers.
Pauninggio 3 years ago
the world speed record i think is 750Km per hour.
frodo3332 3 years ago
yes thats true but thats not on rails its on magnetiks(in japan )
apia13 3 years ago
oh, i thought the were talking about land speed record genraly.
frodo3332 3 years ago
Those bullet trains are really long
Torch48930125 4 years ago
Actually the press was at Kings Cross and the locomotive stopped at Peterborough- and it wasn't exactly 'badly damaged'- it was back in service less than three weeks later. Documentaries should get their facts right before even starting on conjecture like what is the most beautiful locomotive ever.
edwardianeccentric 4 years ago
actually it was 126 mph
tugsrule4 4 years ago
Fun Fact: This train was repainted Red, White, and Blue to commemorate the tragedy of 9/11.
ShellShock1967 4 years ago
"This has been called the most beautiful steam engine in the world" Pfft. It has nothing on the A4s and the 7P classes.
Typhoon6666 4 years ago
Then you have never seen the 4449 in person.
Polybun 4 years ago
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You kidding me? It looks like it has a tumour on the "face". And I don't like the odd livery either. The A4s and 7Ps are much more appealing to the eyes.
On the same sort of note, the programme is obvious bias to make big-headed Americans feel superior to everyone else. They only mention Mallard for under a minute, and then go "BUT LUK AT DA GR8 AMERIKKKAN ENGUNS DEY R TEH BIGUST AND MOST BUTIFUL CUZ WE SAY SO GOD BLESS MURIKKA AMIRITE?"
Typhoon6666 4 years ago
Yea well, which one is still on the mainline? :)
Polybun 4 years ago
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Doesn't stop it from being an eyesore like any other American engine.
Typhoon6666 4 years ago
haha, well, hey, what was the tractive effort on the mallard then huh? :)
Polybun 4 years ago
Not shit, that's for sure, now gb2/fchan/.
Typhoon6666 4 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
Actually the german ICE-Velaro is the fastest serial-train in the world. Without spectacle it is able to run (251mph/404 kmh) -- every day, every hour. This TGV ran under test-condition, special preparation, abnormal 30.000 V High-Voltage and special tracks. The test-train was outweared after 10-Min. and with 30 Mio. Euro a one-way-ticket is a little bit too expensive. Old technic boosted up for one time. Alstom needs years to follow Siemens-technology to compete with the brandnew ICE-Velaro.
Cre7tiv 4 years ago
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A normal TGV goes at 408KM/h in 1988 far before your ICE, and the lastest record is 574.8Km/h, so the ICE is just a shit, alstom is far more advanced than siemens that s all, you re jalous!
houlala16 4 years ago
lol, guy...that tgv in 1988 was modified too :)
the max speed reached by a "normal" tgv (a tgv reseau) has been 366 km/h on the LGV Med in 2001. All the other records have been reached by modified tgv trainset... :)
If you apply the same modifies to the ICE, it can reach the same result :)
alexrm82 3 years ago
@Cre7tiv : Yeah, that's the reason why DB is hiring french TGVs to ensure their service between Frankfurt and Paris. ICE just burned their poor engines, running at 320 km/h under 25 kV in France. Sorry but, there's a record 574,8, and your conjectures. There is facts (DB hiring TGVs) and your conjecture. There is a crash with +110 dead with ICE in germany, no dead ever onboard a TGV. Now you talk, but TGV is the best.
CaptainDangeax 1 year ago
wait a sec no one knew the mallard was going for 126mph run, the ppl's who knew was Sir nigel gresley, fireman and the driver, they where orgianly ment to be doing a brake test, U can tell this porgam was made by Yanks. LOAD OF CRAP!!!!!!! just becuse we built the fastest steam engine.
Owentheguitarist666 4 years ago
The TGV can now travel at 574.8 km/h
andrewx86 4 years ago
If it weren't for the video pictures,
I'd have guessed that they were talking
about the personal computer, the inventio
that truly changed the world!
LongIslandEddie 4 years ago
mallard rockz
megasz 4 years ago
comboios
putodoburacoobscuro 5 years ago
love the intro music. Where can I get it?
ronthecyborg 5 years ago
I´ve always love the intro music too, so I also wonder it.
TheSteamEngine 5 years ago
heheheh, yer thundered into our lives.
Look out the 'locomotive' must be coming... after all the guy with the red flag just walked past. lol
vectorm1299 5 years ago