I was raised a JW . I remember a friend of mine from another congregation had a molester there . He wasn't personaly molested but a friend of his was . I remember his parents making us stay away from him , and I wondered if the man really did these things why he wasn't in jail . I must have been around 12 . It can be a dangerous religion . I don't believe its healthy espically for children . Alot of mind control .
Yes Asfasds99 I do... Unlike the Taliban ("seekers of knowledge" - LOL!!!)I do not repress free expression and thought. This is the problem with the world today... We're all just talking but no one's really listening. We all seem to have our own secret agendas...
BTW do you like Phil Collins song "In the air tonight" Asfa? Listen to the lyrics...
All ya' proved lassie is that some stupid imperfect ex-JW bloke got HIS own fanny caught in the proverbial sling... Exactly now does the Watchtower Society or his local KH play a part in this man's sin against God and nature? Can you draw a direct corollary to an evil Catholic Priest child-molester and the empirically corrupt Vatican?
Well you got the angels taking notes part right. But if you think its blarney why wasnt panaroma, BBC Sued for slander and lies? What have the watchtower society deceived you that much have they?
What makes you think they aren't? I never saw the piece so I can't say one way or ta' udder' - still all blarney to me whens' ya' tink of it ya' know.
and the girls dad got 7 years in nick. Apparently the brothers and sisters when he got took away kept saying over and over "But he was a good worker, he was a good worker" Brainwashed.
The BBC exposed an elder for sexually abusing his daughter,the girls mother went to the elders which was swept under the carpet toot sweet fashion. The elders showed the family a few scriptures hoping it would quieten things down. It never the father kept the abuse up even thanking the poor kid for obeying him after. Luckily the girl went to childline and then the police. After months of coming up against shut ranks from the congregation and watchtower society the police got enough evidence
Its amazing how ppl "know" what transpired in a JW elders judicial committee meeting... LOL we have to take your word for it -eh? Oh no... that's right the BBC's word for it! "Swept it under the rug"? you got a wee bit of the blarney Highlander - don' ya' lass?
Don't worry about it bodydrop24 the angels are taking mental notes... They know who the liars and jokers really are... What's the old saying? "Wasn't I just having fun?"
Your incident was back in the 60's??? Are you kidding us? NO ORGANIZATION had sexual abuse policies just 20-30 years ago! This stuff is the devil's new 20-21st century machinations. Everyone is learning how to respond correctly! Check tinyurl dot com/q44y9 (jw-media dot org) - replace dot with a period and take out the spaces.
Errmm... Pastor Russell WAS a Freemason? So what? He WAS also a Lutheran too I think. He was wrong about a lot of things. What's your point? If your last wishes were to be buried with such a tombstone wouldn't you expect your followers to just do it? When he returns in the New System of Things it will be explained to him why he was wrong.
Theordag - I feel your pain. However, you must not tell lies and slander this organization. Your molester could not have been an ORDAINED elder. You only think he was. There is a DIRECT Watchtower policy for criminal prosecution of any JW who commits this particular type of crime and is also a ordained minister of the congregation. Lay people are another matter all together...
Lay people (laity or regular members) who are exposed for their sin are brought before a local judicial committee of elders. The outcome of the meeting is based upon the perceived repentant attitude of the person. However, this type of criminal behavior may also be reported to the local police too depending on the circumstances of the scenario.
JW only tell lies, there goal is : MONEY not God. They are leaded by men who write lies in there lecture to manipulate ther followers. The bible says : God don't lie, and that: satan is the father of the lie. So the Jw are a CULT and controled by satan.
All major religions want power over people,and they want money too,so as to spread their false truths. If you can find a religion that doesn't want power over your mind,and doesn't use threats,perhaps you are a little closer to what they all perport to offer.
Very true Einstein... However JWs are neither a MAJOR religion nor are they looking to 'get in your mind'... So your the real one that knows? Knows what? Certainly nothing about JWs... eh what?
I know TROK you really like Friedrich Nietzsche's nonsense don't you? "...in the beginning was nonsense, and the nonsense was with God, and the nonsense was God." Well then... Sieg Hiel TROK! When will you take over the world with your false truths? LOL
Haven't read anything of his. My words are all my own,and influenced by what I have seen,and heard from a friend that joined the JW's. He seemed to lose much of his former self after joining,with less enthusiasm for life. He also started quoting their silly ideas,instead of thinking logically. My name is a bit of humour,but if it fits,I'll be happy.
I wouldn't like to rule the world 707,as it seems more logical to rule the minds,then I will have them nailed (Sorry Son Of God) shouldn't have mentioned the nails there,cos you'll never come back,just in case. Got some fit for a king at B&Q too.
OK Einstein exactly HOW do JWs collect money? Oh you don't really know do ya'? That's because they DON'T! Maybe next time you should do your own research and kick these liars and slanders to the curb!
Please my poor confused and misinformed Dutch friend - go get an English dictionary and look up the word 'cult' and try to apply the defintion to JWs. Go ahead I'll wait...
Raised as a JW (no longer one), molestation is common place within the flock. I think it is due to its insular nature. It provides a family feel to those normally outside of society's norm. A lot of cults share this problem. The WTBS are certainly NOT immune.
i know of a black guy who is a molester so it must mean they are all molesters right? just because u were fondeld by a goof does not mean you need to take it out on the witneses. why not attack the muslims who kill inocent people you $*@% head!
Wow, I feel exactly the same way. I was raised in the organization as well but, I'm an agnostic now. I still respect the witnesses even though I DO NOT believe in what they teach. I'm also gay and that doesn't go over well in the organization.
Satan is mind washing your brains. Jehovah was always god. And im studying with them and plan to become babtized. Jehovahs witness are doing what all the other religions dont. Tell His Will.
This man has nothing to do with his life. Jesus already foretold that there are APOSTATES amongst the servants of Jehovah and you are just one. yuo proved to be ONE
whatever u want to say, say it but i tell u when Jehovah's wrath come in He will surely destroy the people who destroy his name especially the one who make this video
I dont remember jesus instructing anyone in the scriptures to create a watchtower society. But then like the pope the watchtower is very much man made.
And btw, if one witnesses a crime and they are with other people, are those people not also witneses to the crime? A Jehovah's Witness is nothing more than a witness to God. One to speak on his behalf. Did not Noah warn people about the flood? mat.24:36-39
Also, by your definition, ALL Christians are "Jehovah's Witnesses"...because all Christians witness for God and speak on His behalf...Yet there is a big concern over the JW's message NOT being the Word of God.
I am a Witness of Jehovah, and i believe what this man is saying. He Probably was abused. As for his abuser... Jehovah will punish him to the severity required. No-one should have to go through that. It is curious though that He wasn't put out of the organization. The question the comes to mind, though, is,Why is it that only this man speaks? Why not ask the congregation directly? It confuses me when anyone attacks the org., and leaves no room for an explaination.
arrestedspirit ~ You said you're a Witness of Jehovah. Are you Baptist, Pentecostal, Holiness, or what?..I mean, all Christians are witnesses of Jehovah, correct?
Well...no, not really. To be a witness one must testify to the things seen and heard, or present evidence. What other religion in the world goes from door to door? What other religion follows the Scriptural teaching set out at Mattthew 28: 19, 20, to go and make disciples? Is it really enough for a small group of people to go out for a limited amount of time? In fact when was the last time a Baptist,Pentecostal, or anyone other than a JW came to your door?
Arrested ~ Honestly, the only people who have come to my door were some Baptist people from the Church about a mile from my house..They dropped off a brochure about their Church, their beliefs, and invited us to attend service with them..My neighborhood is a bit more affluent, most of the JW's I see tend to focus on the less affluent areas and they seem to target the less educated...Btw, how could all the denominations grow in members if they weren't "making disciples"?
Not many of the apostles of Jesus were well educated. In fact many were common fishermen, without a formal education. Are you saying Jesus was targeting the less educated? The less affluent? Or was he simply educating those with a thirst for knowledge? btw The church attendance rates have dropped in the last 40 years not increased, Despite population growth.
Since people have been receiving God's salvation for thousands of years, long before there ever was a JW religion, why should any person believe that only JW's have access to God and God salvation?..Is it realistic or sensible to think that God's salvation left the world until the JW religion began?..That God had no "witnesses" in this world until a little over a hundred yrs ago...I see people on TV witnessing for God all the time.
Also, a person doesn't have to be a member of a local church to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. So church attendance in itself is not an accurate gauge of disciple growth.
So am I to understand then that the arm-chair Christian is the acceptable standard God sets? It's enough simply to believe and watch the tube on Sunday? Once saved, always saved I guess. So if your saved from the 1st oncoming car, the next ones not going to hit you, right?
arrested ~ An "arm chair" Christian is not "saved" from oncoming "cars", he is saved from his SINS by placing his faith/trust in the Savior Jesus Christ...Is it your belief that a person is only saved while he is sitting in Church, but then, if he is sitting at home he is no longer saved?...Does the building save a person, or does Jesus Christ?
YOU CANT LOOK AT THE CAMERA, BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU LIE!
I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVENT BEEN ABUSED, whoever abused you WAS NOT A TRUE WITNESS OF JEHOVAH!!!
Your Mom should really only have been wearing a HAT if it was A). SUNNY B), SAYING A PRAYER WHEN A BAPTISED BROTHER PRESENT or 3) SHE WAS A FASHION VICTIM!
ok MARTYNBIKER why is he an apostate??? cuz he's not keeping quiet about what a sick elder did? u guys are not perfect and u guys are not better than any other religion; u guys do make mistakes like this as well as the catholics or the protestants or am i wrong.....please tell me. or are you guys actually perfect?? dude let me know!
jehovah's witness is a cult and the government should do everything in it's power to stop it. It hates other beliefs,ideas,independent thoughts,anything. MIND CONTROL is their game.
hey rsvy91368, a lot og govt and even the Nazis had tried to stop the works of JWs, but were they ever successful??? never! bcuz Jehovah God is supporting his people and organization. you apostates will see Jehovah's wrath in due time. you people dont know what you are saying to badmouth the Most High, your Creator! you are such an Ingrate!!!!
i am a product of the sexual abuse in the organization......among many other things this issue is swept under the rug ....the elders in the congregations take the superior role and instead of reporting these horrible acts to proper authorities they give 'counsel' its wrong.....i feel for all that still are brainwashed including my own family
The jehovah´s witnesess is the most righteous religion (like organization, but no like individual people)know it. NO COLLECTS, NO TERRYFING HELL,NO DIEZMO, NO RACISM, NO GAYS, AND EXPULSION BY BAD MEMBERS.
I'm sorry about your ordeal. It is surely difficult to recover from something like that. You must just understand that this is a perfect society but run by imperfect humans. People make mistakes, and Jehovah will judge these people accordingly. I'm sure this evil person will be punished severely.
That Founder on the Tombstone was a 33 degree Mason.
So are all the prophets of the Mormon Church.
Why is it that the foundation of these religions are based on Masonary and infact satanic orders in the same. That all seeing eye to crown the brothers New World Order......Let the Pissing and Crying Begin.
JEHOVAH GOD is tired. thats all that you all are a bunch of maggots waiting for destruction. You think JEHOVAH GOD is going to show mercy to a bunch of maggots who is constantly and perpetually criticizing his organization. HELL NO!!! But don't you dare stop, keep on. Do not waiver on your hatred for gods true people because it keeps us strong, healthy, and happy.
It's ironic but the more you hate us the stronger we get.
Your young and naive. JEHOVAH GOD is a destroyer of people not serving him. There is No If's, And's Or But's about this. He created life he can destroy life. HIS love though is immense. He want nothing for us but happiness with no taint of sorrow. And he provides it through his KINGDOM in paradise earth where it is impossible to be unhappy.
hmm, I love how followers of almost any religion have a complete psychological profile of a being they've never seen or heard from. They know "it" is a he. They know his likes an dislikes. Very interesting..
i was molested by a member of my family at 5years old, but what does that have to do with the rest of my family?, you should focus on the perpetaor not his religion, unless his religion claims it is ok to abuse children, does jw's teach that is ok?, go ask them, do not judge others by one persons wrondoing
It's the fact that the governing body ignores certain rules that they instill, that brings the problem with the religion. They are supposed to be divine, but lie and manipulate their followers, and punish those who question. It's a sick and disturbing religion.
Sorry for your problems as a child with this bad elder There is good and bad people in every organization. If you believe in Jehovah then you know he and only he will make all things right. He can read your heart & all hearts. JW are good people overall, the world would be a better world if all of us acted like JW.
Yours is the best comment on here. None of you who are putting us down are mentioning the catholic preists or whatever who are molesting kids all over the place. I never heard in the news of any SIX MILLION dollar law suits for molestation by JW elders.
You haven't heard of a 6 million dollar law suit against the JW Pedophile Paradise YET! And if the JW cult is supposed to be God's chosen organization, why are you comparing it to the Catholics? At least they're addressing their pedophile problem, JW are still hididing theirs. When some of these pitiful children start castrating you pedophiles this will stop.
Ok, so if the Catholics do it too it makes it ok for JW's? Do some research on the subject. But don't tell the elders because real questions aren't allowed.
The problem is not Jehovah, and yes there are many good people in the witnesses, I myself was one, but when someone of authority hurts a child, you can't keep it in the church. You must call the authorities, and they don't. " Because you did it to the least of my brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, you did it to me!"
i'm not surprized your molesterer was a jehovahs witness,they give you all the stuff at the meetings about them not being perfect but then they think that they can't do anything wrong,i just dont get them
Generally I find JW's at my door an irritant. However a few years ago a couple of real cuties arrived at my door to tell me the good news of the world post Armagedon. Their names were Verity and Michelle and they were very charming. I hope they call again. I had absolutely no urge to shut the door on them.
I don't get so upset about the grief I had whilst I was with the J.W.s as I am absolutely confident that the day that governments across the world ban their preaching work and assembly is now very near. The complacent ones who think most people are on their side are in for a big shock when the new laws are introduced!
My message is simple. Do your homework. If you are a JW - do some honest research and you will come to the same conclusion I did.... it is NOT the truth. Far from it. If you are studying - do the same research. If you are not studying - do yourself a favor ... stay away from the JW organization!! It is not a good scene. Take it from me... I am an elder, and will be leaving soon.
Most will not. But there are many good people among the JWs. Many honest hearted people who have been completely duped and brainwashed. I am convinced that if they are shown the real truth, they will be able to shake free. It is certainly worth a try.
What I mean by shake free, is to be able to free themselves from the controling grip of the Watchtower Society, better known as Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a very controling group, so shaking free of the shackles that bind one to the JWs is often extremely difficult.
I will be leaving with my wife and family, and most of my friends. Anyone willing to listen to reason, and anyone who can be truly honest in their evaluation of our faith will accompany me in my exit. There is a major groundswell underway - "The Truth" is being exposed for what it really is. Thank GOD for the internet and for freedom of speach!
riight...u obviously dont have Jah's spirit in you. it's actually quite sad that you'd go into the world when you know that Jah has so many fantastic promises in store for his followers. but ofc, it's your own mistake to make.
I beg you to examine closely the organization we have been following. When I began researching in to our past it tore my heart out to discover how thoroughly we have been deceived by WT teachings. You will discover as I did, that it is not Jehovah or his spirit guiding the writers of the WT publications. It couldn't possibly be, given the horrible record of false predictions and downright foolishness in many articles written in the past.
I know the Jehovah's witnesses and they really try to be good people. If you want accuse that "minister" let the police placed him in the jail. Even the people who is very religious can do very big mistakes if they let it bad wishes growing. I know some ex-elders are in the jail becasuse bad behaviur about immoral, use of drugs, abuse of alcohol, bestialism and many other things. Go to the Judge or wait when God sizes him. Meanwhile, live your life better.
The magazines are currently given out for free, on a donation basis. But they were indeed sold until pretty recently. The donation basis started sometime in the mid-late 80's, I believe. The switch was made from sales to "donation" in order to evade tax laws. Everyone in the congregations knows full well that they are expected to "donate" money for whatever they recieve from behind the literature counter.
Also, I believe this former JW uses the term "ordained minister" in order to allow people outside the sect to understand what he is speaking of. Of course they are technically referred to as "elders" or "ministerial servants," within the congregation, but someone outside of the organization would not understand this. It is a good call on the behalf of the video maker to use these terms in order to facilitate understanding of obscure terminology not used by anyone other than JW's.
I do not condone any molestor first of all. But I must say, the Witnesses don't sell the magazines, which he said his mother was doing, nor do they call their members ordained ministers (although they are ordained, and ministers) ther are referred to as ministerial servants, elders, and overseers. This man does not seem to have ever been a witness. Perhaps he associated with them, and I don't doubt that someone mistreated him, but his story is shaky.
I am sorry, it does not seem like many who are posting here are educated on the practices of Jehovah's Witness congregations. These things when made known to elders are covered up to not bring reproach to God. This is a deceptive, scary, lie. Children are in danger becuase of the Watchtower policy and control over it's followers. You have a lot of strength and I hope that you have met the "real" Jesus and know that he loves you and your joy will be made complete in Christ.
I'm a JW here in Houston and I belive in Jehovah and his son Jesus,but I also belive theres a Satan thats going to do whatever it takes to Blame Jehovahs Witness for any accounts.Satan is talking,we know its one of his demons..We know the rules and principles and we know you have to qualify to be an elder.
"Caesars Law' applys here. The law authorities should always be notified. It's not good enough to just blame 'imperfection' or Satan. To the world, this excuse sounds cultish and flippant and makes this serious situation sound minor. Kids lives are at stake here!
Jehovah God did not fail here, but sinful man has dominated man to his injury.I am sadden by your hurt.I hope you heal and are able to forgive someday.
At a glance the Jehovah's Witnesses have a profound pedophile cover-up because they "Bible thump" an obscure scriptural passage at 2.Corn 13:1 "..every matter requires TWO witnesses..".
The Church leaders require that there be " two witnesses" to a criminal act.
How many rapist permit a 'witness'?
Don't forget that Jehovah's Witnesses outreach by going door to door in YOUR community. Could a pedophile be knocking at your door?
Since when did the Kingdom Hall become a police station? If your child is molested you call the police not a religious group. They are not detectives or police officers. Why expect somebody else to do your dirty work unless of course its a lie.
Spiritual Truth, like Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, gets better as time goes on. Before 1900 or so, nobody had any idea what made the sun hot. Theology that never learns from it's mistakes is doomed to cannibalistic warfare, elves that make toys, rabbits that lay eggs, reverence for the device that killed the one they supposedly serve, and October 31st celebrating Satan's Birthday Party ala Walt Disney. Christendom still amkes Jack-O-Lanterns.
Spiritual truth is not a science. To turn the old apple and orange cliche on it's head, you are comparing chimpanzees to supernovas. Science is empirical. Nothing religious or "spiritual" is empirical.
For the record, the previous comment is a direct reply to KermitdForg's comment, "Spiritual Truth, like Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, gets better as time goes on. "
I was there when the instructions were read one Sunday morning to all congregations everywhere in the world that all such accusations whether one or two witnesses were to be turned over to local police. The Catholics are still shuffling priests from place to place.
The Holy Spirit working on men dumb as sticks the best you can hope for is "due process". Justice you only get from God, except on occasion.
Yes, Kermit, it may be all good and nice and out in the open NOW but for decades children/families were hushed-up by the elders. That's the truth. I know for a fact, because I was a JW for 15 years. If you are currently a JW you must know you will be considered "spiritually sick" for even seeking-out, let alone watching, this video. Look to yourself dear.
i know for a fact that the exact opposite is true they encourage it to be reported to police and may do it themselves if those involved do not. And this list you go on about is a protection it means if someone who abused someone trys to get into a different congregation they can be informed of this to protect those there.
goodweed must have been on weed when he said that im no jehovahs wittnes but im also not a liar and i know for a fact that if something like that was to happen the watch tower society wouldnt be hush hush if you dont believe me go into a kingdom hall and ask a jehovahs wittness
Sorry Kermit but the Watchtower actually wants ones not to go to the police but rather they want it all kept internally hush hush. Gee I wonder why? Wouldn't want Gods so called only true religion to look just like the rest of the religions right? Haha typical hypocracy of religion.
If something happens like this It WILL be reported 2 the police Such person commiting the Sin will LOSE ALL privileges & in some cases disfellowshiped!
Get your Bible n read 1 Timothy 3:1-16
Thats the biblical scripture they base on to letting you "qualify" to be an Elder. Ive been in Jehovas witness congregation. They are extremely strict.If his family is not an example he should not be an elder So with MORE reason if the elder is the one comitting the SIN he WILL BE REMOVED.
Whatever makes you say that the WatchTower wants to keep it hidden rather than reporting it to the police? Did you informed yourself very well? If you did, tell me how .
Sometimes Justice takes a long time....I weep for this man who was abused, and hope the wolf in sheeps clothing that did this is in jail now...he should be charged and prosecuted. What makes this even more painful is that Jehovah's Witnesses are usually exceptionally exemplary people. Fortunately the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society today recommends all such accusations be reported to local police
Fortunately the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society today recommends all such accusations be reported to local police. Why is it under their recommendation and not the victims choice.
I know what it's like to be in a position like this.... only it didn't go so far. And I believe you're right about the ones in position of power or with connection to it.
Douche Bag! That is a Knight Templar symbol on that pyramid!
Bandito419 1 year ago
I was raised a JW . I remember a friend of mine from another congregation had a molester there . He wasn't personaly molested but a friend of his was . I remember his parents making us stay away from him , and I wondered if the man really did these things why he wasn't in jail . I must have been around 12 . It can be a dangerous religion . I don't believe its healthy espically for children . Alot of mind control .
Kllew1 4 years ago 5
JW is a pedophile's paradise....They rape and molest children. One day I'll go and pour urine on this demon's grave.
jadakaykay 4 years ago
lol
SmalltimR 3 years ago
Yes Asfasds99 I do... Unlike the Taliban ("seekers of knowledge" - LOL!!!)I do not repress free expression and thought. This is the problem with the world today... We're all just talking but no one's really listening. We all seem to have our own secret agendas...
BTW do you like Phil Collins song "In the air tonight" Asfa? Listen to the lyrics...
7boanerges7 4 years ago
No lets just face facts on this occasion got caught with posteria in a sling, to put it nicely.
Dementedhighlander 4 years ago
All ya' proved lassie is that some stupid imperfect ex-JW bloke got HIS own fanny caught in the proverbial sling... Exactly now does the Watchtower Society or his local KH play a part in this man's sin against God and nature? Can you draw a direct corollary to an evil Catholic Priest child-molester and the empirically corrupt Vatican?
Oh no I didn't tink' ya' could lassie...
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Well you got the angels taking notes part right. But if you think its blarney why wasnt panaroma, BBC Sued for slander and lies? What have the watchtower society deceived you that much have they?
Dementedhighlander 4 years ago
What makes you think they aren't? I never saw the piece so I can't say one way or ta' udder' - still all blarney to me whens' ya' tink of it ya' know.
7boanerges7 4 years ago
and the girls dad got 7 years in nick. Apparently the brothers and sisters when he got took away kept saying over and over "But he was a good worker, he was a good worker" Brainwashed.
Dementedhighlander 4 years ago
The BBC exposed an elder for sexually abusing his daughter,the girls mother went to the elders which was swept under the carpet toot sweet fashion. The elders showed the family a few scriptures hoping it would quieten things down. It never the father kept the abuse up even thanking the poor kid for obeying him after. Luckily the girl went to childline and then the police. After months of coming up against shut ranks from the congregation and watchtower society the police got enough evidence
Dementedhighlander 4 years ago
Its amazing how ppl "know" what transpired in a JW elders judicial committee meeting... LOL we have to take your word for it -eh? Oh no... that's right the BBC's word for it! "Swept it under the rug"? you got a wee bit of the blarney Highlander - don' ya' lass?
7boanerges7 4 years ago
i do not worship satan,i worship jehovah.
bodydrop24 4 years ago
Don't worry about it bodydrop24 the angels are taking mental notes... They know who the liars and jokers really are... What's the old saying? "Wasn't I just having fun?"
7boanerges7 4 years ago
as i am a witness i know this could not be true and i know this is a lie,there are many lie's to bring people away from god and near to satan.
bodydrop24 4 years ago
So why are you choosing to worship satan? Do you not understand that satanists are happy that you are doing their work for them?
hurt4ever1ms 4 years ago
Your incident was back in the 60's??? Are you kidding us? NO ORGANIZATION had sexual abuse policies just 20-30 years ago! This stuff is the devil's new 20-21st century machinations. Everyone is learning how to respond correctly! Check tinyurl dot com/q44y9 (jw-media dot org) - replace dot with a period and take out the spaces.
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Errmm... Pastor Russell WAS a Freemason? So what? He WAS also a Lutheran too I think. He was wrong about a lot of things. What's your point? If your last wishes were to be buried with such a tombstone wouldn't you expect your followers to just do it? When he returns in the New System of Things it will be explained to him why he was wrong.
Why are you wrong?
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Theordag - I feel your pain. However, you must not tell lies and slander this organization. Your molester could not have been an ORDAINED elder. You only think he was. There is a DIRECT Watchtower policy for criminal prosecution of any JW who commits this particular type of crime and is also a ordained minister of the congregation. Lay people are another matter all together...
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Lay people (laity or regular members) who are exposed for their sin are brought before a local judicial committee of elders. The outcome of the meeting is based upon the perceived repentant attitude of the person. However, this type of criminal behavior may also be reported to the local police too depending on the circumstances of the scenario.
7boanerges7 4 years ago
JW only tell lies, there goal is : MONEY not God. They are leaded by men who write lies in there lecture to manipulate ther followers. The bible says : God don't lie, and that: satan is the father of the lie. So the Jw are a CULT and controled by satan.
freexteam 4 years ago
All major religions want power over people,and they want money too,so as to spread their false truths. If you can find a religion that doesn't want power over your mind,and doesn't use threats,perhaps you are a little closer to what they all perport to offer.
TheRealOneKnows 4 years ago
Very true Einstein... However JWs are neither a MAJOR religion nor are they looking to 'get in your mind'... So your the real one that knows? Knows what? Certainly nothing about JWs... eh what?
I know TROK you really like Friedrich Nietzsche's nonsense don't you? "...in the beginning was nonsense, and the nonsense was with God, and the nonsense was God." Well then... Sieg Hiel TROK! When will you take over the world with your false truths? LOL
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Haven't read anything of his. My words are all my own,and influenced by what I have seen,and heard from a friend that joined the JW's. He seemed to lose much of his former self after joining,with less enthusiasm for life. He also started quoting their silly ideas,instead of thinking logically. My name is a bit of humour,but if it fits,I'll be happy.
TheRealOneKnows 4 years ago
I wouldn't like to rule the world 707,as it seems more logical to rule the minds,then I will have them nailed (Sorry Son Of God) shouldn't have mentioned the nails there,cos you'll never come back,just in case. Got some fit for a king at B&Q too.
TheRealOneKnows 4 years ago
OK Einstein exactly HOW do JWs collect money? Oh you don't really know do ya'? That's because they DON'T! Maybe next time you should do your own research and kick these liars and slanders to the curb!
Please my poor confused and misinformed Dutch friend - go get an English dictionary and look up the word 'cult' and try to apply the defintion to JWs. Go ahead I'll wait...
7boanerges7 4 years ago
Raised as a JW (no longer one), molestation is common place within the flock. I think it is due to its insular nature. It provides a family feel to those normally outside of society's norm. A lot of cults share this problem. The WTBS are certainly NOT immune.
ahuvahb 4 years ago
lol, I just had to come back here and laugh. sry...just too funny.
bobothemonk 4 years ago
i know of a black guy who is a molester so it must mean they are all molesters right? just because u were fondeld by a goof does not mean you need to take it out on the witneses. why not attack the muslims who kill inocent people you $*@% head!
godandaa 4 years ago
mete u were only sexually asaulted iv been a slave for 40 years check out true faith jehovahs witnesses
blackmork 4 years ago
Wow, I feel exactly the same way. I was raised in the organization as well but, I'm an agnostic now. I still respect the witnesses even though I DO NOT believe in what they teach. I'm also gay and that doesn't go over well in the organization.
dqwaszx 4 years ago
is not what they teach,is what the bible says,
fazelada 4 years ago
for real
53485349 4 years ago
lol,this guy is pathetic,what a joke,maybe he fell in love with his molestor lol..you need to make up a better story dude lol
fazelada 4 years ago
Satan is mind washing your brains. Jehovah was always god. And im studying with them and plan to become babtized. Jehovahs witness are doing what all the other religions dont. Tell His Will.
gamer2284 4 years ago
This man has nothing to do with his life. Jesus already foretold that there are APOSTATES amongst the servants of Jehovah and you are just one. yuo proved to be ONE
elielakates 4 years ago
Apostate, that's hilarious! You're stuck in the JW matrix.
aaherri 4 years ago
PSALM 83;18
That men my know that my name is JEHOVAH, THE MUST HIGH OVER ALL THE EARTH.
gamer2284 4 years ago
theodoraq I am sorry but I find you to be a pitiful
character. I was molested by two homosexuals I don't go around trying to blame all homosexuals for it. Are you trying to say all JWs are pedophiles
I think JWs are one of the few religions that will
remove such a person from their organization.Grow up
and stop playing the victim its demeaning.
centsense 4 years ago
whatever u want to say, say it but i tell u when Jehovah's wrath come in He will surely destroy the people who destroy his name especially the one who make this video
elielakates 4 years ago
John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God... and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us."
jojojosmart 4 years ago
I dont remember jesus instructing anyone in the scriptures to create a watchtower society. But then like the pope the watchtower is very much man made.
chigaloo2 4 years ago
Jehovah's Witnesses simply do as God's son instructed.
Mat. 28: 19,20
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
And btw, if one witnesses a crime and they are with other people, are those people not also witneses to the crime? A Jehovah's Witness is nothing more than a witness to God. One to speak on his behalf. Did not Noah warn people about the flood? mat.24:36-39
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
Also, by your definition, ALL Christians are "Jehovah's Witnesses"...because all Christians witness for God and speak on His behalf...Yet there is a big concern over the JW's message NOT being the Word of God.
GENE888 4 years ago
btw,..The JW message being cited as NOT being the Word of God is,.."Join the Watchtower Society or God will destroy you."
GENE888 4 years ago
You dont have to go to doors nowadays. I mean look at us now on the net, the work place, with your friends socialising, any where you can.
chigaloo2 4 years ago
I am a Witness of Jehovah, and i believe what this man is saying. He Probably was abused. As for his abuser... Jehovah will punish him to the severity required. No-one should have to go through that. It is curious though that He wasn't put out of the organization. The question the comes to mind, though, is,Why is it that only this man speaks? Why not ask the congregation directly? It confuses me when anyone attacks the org., and leaves no room for an explaination.
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
arrestedspirit ~ You said you're a Witness of Jehovah. Are you Baptist, Pentecostal, Holiness, or what?..I mean, all Christians are witnesses of Jehovah, correct?
GENE888 4 years ago
Well...no, not really. To be a witness one must testify to the things seen and heard, or present evidence. What other religion in the world goes from door to door? What other religion follows the Scriptural teaching set out at Mattthew 28: 19, 20, to go and make disciples? Is it really enough for a small group of people to go out for a limited amount of time? In fact when was the last time a Baptist,Pentecostal, or anyone other than a JW came to your door?
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
Arrested ~ Honestly, the only people who have come to my door were some Baptist people from the Church about a mile from my house..They dropped off a brochure about their Church, their beliefs, and invited us to attend service with them..My neighborhood is a bit more affluent, most of the JW's I see tend to focus on the less affluent areas and they seem to target the less educated...Btw, how could all the denominations grow in members if they weren't "making disciples"?
GENE888 4 years ago
Not many of the apostles of Jesus were well educated. In fact many were common fishermen, without a formal education. Are you saying Jesus was targeting the less educated? The less affluent? Or was he simply educating those with a thirst for knowledge? btw The church attendance rates have dropped in the last 40 years not increased, Despite population growth.
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
Since people have been receiving God's salvation for thousands of years, long before there ever was a JW religion, why should any person believe that only JW's have access to God and God salvation?..Is it realistic or sensible to think that God's salvation left the world until the JW religion began?..That God had no "witnesses" in this world until a little over a hundred yrs ago...I see people on TV witnessing for God all the time.
GENE888 4 years ago
Also, a person doesn't have to be a member of a local church to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. So church attendance in itself is not an accurate gauge of disciple growth.
GENE888 4 years ago
So am I to understand then that the arm-chair Christian is the acceptable standard God sets? It's enough simply to believe and watch the tube on Sunday? Once saved, always saved I guess. So if your saved from the 1st oncoming car, the next ones not going to hit you, right?
That seems a bit unrealistic as well.
arrestedspirit 4 years ago
arrested ~ An "arm chair" Christian is not "saved" from oncoming "cars", he is saved from his SINS by placing his faith/trust in the Savior Jesus Christ...Is it your belief that a person is only saved while he is sitting in Church, but then, if he is sitting at home he is no longer saved?...Does the building save a person, or does Jesus Christ?
GENE888 4 years ago
You should think up the story before you film next time...STUTTER STUTTER!
jumpit11 4 years ago
YOU CANT LOOK AT THE CAMERA, BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU LIE!
I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVENT BEEN ABUSED, whoever abused you WAS NOT A TRUE WITNESS OF JEHOVAH!!!
Your Mom should really only have been wearing a HAT if it was A). SUNNY B), SAYING A PRAYER WHEN A BAPTISED BROTHER PRESENT or 3) SHE WAS A FASHION VICTIM!
SAD BLOKE
BEHAVE
COME ON!
yeah, "a man known to be" YOU GOTTA REPORT HIM!
dont be an apostate,
martynbiker 4 years ago
ok MARTYNBIKER why is he an apostate??? cuz he's not keeping quiet about what a sick elder did? u guys are not perfect and u guys are not better than any other religion; u guys do make mistakes like this as well as the catholics or the protestants or am i wrong.....please tell me. or are you guys actually perfect?? dude let me know!
ganthonyvr 4 years ago
jehovah's witness is a cult and the government should do everything in it's power to stop it. It hates other beliefs,ideas,independent thoughts,anything. MIND CONTROL is their game.
rsvy91368 4 years ago
wow...how could you ever say that
daprchula27 4 years ago
hey rsvy91368, a lot og govt and even the Nazis had tried to stop the works of JWs, but were they ever successful??? never! bcuz Jehovah God is supporting his people and organization. you apostates will see Jehovah's wrath in due time. you people dont know what you are saying to badmouth the Most High, your Creator! you are such an Ingrate!!!!
miszee22 4 years ago
i am a product of the sexual abuse in the organization......among many other things this issue is swept under the rug ....the elders in the congregations take the superior role and instead of reporting these horrible acts to proper authorities they give 'counsel' its wrong.....i feel for all that still are brainwashed including my own family
gladtobefree 4 years ago
The jehovah´s witnesess is the most righteous religion (like organization, but no like individual people)know it. NO COLLECTS, NO TERRYFING HELL,NO DIEZMO, NO RACISM, NO GAYS, AND EXPULSION BY BAD MEMBERS.
funkberto 4 years ago
FUNKBERTO you really think that there are no fags in your so caled organization???? i met some of them and the elders or family had no idea dude!!
ganthonyvr 4 years ago
true - I was raised by two jehovah's witnesses and I'm homosexual. I also have four cousins and one uncle who were raised the same way and are gay.
dqwaszx 4 years ago
what
wellshii 4 years ago
I'm sorry about your ordeal. It is surely difficult to recover from something like that. You must just understand that this is a perfect society but run by imperfect humans. People make mistakes, and Jehovah will judge these people accordingly. I'm sure this evil person will be punished severely.
kenancoetzee 4 years ago
i feel for you!if they come near my door i will run them.
kingcock69 4 years ago
and jehovah will run you.
53485349 4 years ago
jehova will run me and take my soul with him and i'll gladly go with him
ganthonyvr 4 years ago
Jesus Crist in above all names...
filip.(2:8-11)
SORTDOGG 4 years ago
That Founder on the Tombstone was a 33 degree Mason.
So are all the prophets of the Mormon Church.
Why is it that the foundation of these religions are based on Masonary and infact satanic orders in the same. That all seeing eye to crown the brothers New World Order......Let the Pissing and Crying Begin.
grimbattalion 4 years ago
hmmm, you do know that catholic molested kids as well. it was all over the news!
CRISPIN175 4 years ago
yess..but can you provide any proof of this jehovah God person being the creator and ect
.....and please dont resort to the bible
why??
well, because the bible is set up so that you can't question it. for example i ask "Is the bible credible"
you answer"well the bible says it is"
see what i mean
ignorant bible freak=jehovah's winesses
555tortuga 4 years ago
Brother. If this molester was working for Microsoft, would you say that Microsoft employees are this or that?
PawelKolasa 4 years ago
JEHOVAH GOD is tired. thats all that you all are a bunch of maggots waiting for destruction. You think JEHOVAH GOD is going to show mercy to a bunch of maggots who is constantly and perpetually criticizing his organization. HELL NO!!! But don't you dare stop, keep on. Do not waiver on your hatred for gods true people because it keeps us strong, healthy, and happy.
It's ironic but the more you hate us the stronger we get.
infinitusone 4 years ago
Jehovah God never fails to love the human being whether they serve God or not..
hookergail 4 years ago
Your young and naive. JEHOVAH GOD is a destroyer of people not serving him. There is No If's, And's Or But's about this. He created life he can destroy life. HIS love though is immense. He want nothing for us but happiness with no taint of sorrow. And he provides it through his KINGDOM in paradise earth where it is impossible to be unhappy.
infinitusone 4 years ago
hmm, I love how followers of almost any religion have a complete psychological profile of a being they've never seen or heard from. They know "it" is a he. They know his likes an dislikes. Very interesting..
dqwaszx 4 years ago
Hey son, watch, your saying that, but we'll see what happens, you'll get yours. believe me.
53485349 4 years ago
i was molested by a member of my family at 5years old, but what does that have to do with the rest of my family?, you should focus on the perpetaor not his religion, unless his religion claims it is ok to abuse children, does jw's teach that is ok?, go ask them, do not judge others by one persons wrondoing
njgoldsmith 4 years ago
It's the fact that the governing body ignores certain rules that they instill, that brings the problem with the religion. They are supposed to be divine, but lie and manipulate their followers, and punish those who question. It's a sick and disturbing religion.
wilsonludolph 4 years ago
Wow. Most of us do not lie, and folloers of Jehovah certainly are not manipulated by thegoverning body, beacause we follow the bible and nobody else.
53485349 4 years ago
Who do you think interpreted the bible for all Jehovahs Witnesses since its inception?
wilsonludolph 4 years ago
shut up u av
goonerbryn 4 years ago
Sorry for your problems as a child with this bad elder There is good and bad people in every organization. If you believe in Jehovah then you know he and only he will make all things right. He can read your heart & all hearts. JW are good people overall, the world would be a better world if all of us acted like JW.
alamorob 4 years ago
Yours is the best comment on here. None of you who are putting us down are mentioning the catholic preists or whatever who are molesting kids all over the place. I never heard in the news of any SIX MILLION dollar law suits for molestation by JW elders.
53485349 4 years ago
You haven't heard of a 6 million dollar law suit against the JW Pedophile Paradise YET! And if the JW cult is supposed to be God's chosen organization, why are you comparing it to the Catholics? At least they're addressing their pedophile problem, JW are still hididing theirs. When some of these pitiful children start castrating you pedophiles this will stop.
jadakaykay 3 years ago 2
Ok, so if the Catholics do it too it makes it ok for JW's? Do some research on the subject. But don't tell the elders because real questions aren't allowed.
icandynetwork 2 years ago
The problem is not Jehovah, and yes there are many good people in the witnesses, I myself was one, but when someone of authority hurts a child, you can't keep it in the church. You must call the authorities, and they don't. " Because you did it to the least of my brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, you did it to me!"
GBluesMusician2 4 years ago
to you then what is the truth huh if your so right
aarmenta89 4 years ago
wackos JHW nuts
zaggg0n 4 years ago
Your an idiot.
53485349 4 years ago
i'm not surprized your molesterer was a jehovahs witness,they give you all the stuff at the meetings about them not being perfect but then they think that they can't do anything wrong,i just dont get them
McrxGerardxFrank 4 years ago
I'm sorry but, that statement does not make any sense.
dqwaszx 4 years ago
you are absolutely right,religions r like cults,ive been a jehovahs witness,theyre SO like a cult
McrxGerardxFrank 4 years ago
sir im very sorry if this is something that apped to you but not all Jehovah's Witness's are like that please dont slader Jehovah!
missurie28 4 years ago
Generally I find JW's at my door an irritant. However a few years ago a couple of real cuties arrived at my door to tell me the good news of the world post Armagedon. Their names were Verity and Michelle and they were very charming. I hope they call again. I had absolutely no urge to shut the door on them.
h1aa 5 years ago
he is not telling the truth, its odvious, I hate religion anyways
robbylovesanime 5 years ago
I don't get so upset about the grief I had whilst I was with the J.W.s as I am absolutely confident that the day that governments across the world ban their preaching work and assembly is now very near. The complacent ones who think most people are on their side are in for a big shock when the new laws are introduced!
HUG49 5 years ago
My message is simple. Do your homework. If you are a JW - do some honest research and you will come to the same conclusion I did.... it is NOT the truth. Far from it. If you are studying - do the same research. If you are not studying - do yourself a favor ... stay away from the JW organization!! It is not a good scene. Take it from me... I am an elder, and will be leaving soon.
freeyourmindnow 5 years ago
I don`t think these people will listen to you.
andreformiga 5 years ago
Most will not. But there are many good people among the JWs. Many honest hearted people who have been completely duped and brainwashed. I am convinced that if they are shown the real truth, they will be able to shake free. It is certainly worth a try.
freeyourmindnow 5 years ago
Excuse me, but...what do you mean "shake free"?
andreformiga 5 years ago
What I mean by shake free, is to be able to free themselves from the controling grip of the Watchtower Society, better known as Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a very controling group, so shaking free of the shackles that bind one to the JWs is often extremely difficult.
freeyourmindnow 5 years ago
The Jews?
andreformiga 5 years ago
who r u leaving with? Jah is the olny true god hahaha time will come to u in a wake of a night and then you will trip out hahah.
labamba24 5 years ago
I will be leaving with my wife and family, and most of my friends. Anyone willing to listen to reason, and anyone who can be truly honest in their evaluation of our faith will accompany me in my exit. There is a major groundswell underway - "The Truth" is being exposed for what it really is. Thank GOD for the internet and for freedom of speach!
- Free Your Mind Now
freeyourmindnow 5 years ago
riight...u obviously dont have Jah's spirit in you. it's actually quite sad that you'd go into the world when you know that Jah has so many fantastic promises in store for his followers. but ofc, it's your own mistake to make.
AniaKarolinka 5 years ago
AniaKarolinka,
I beg you to examine closely the organization we have been following. When I began researching in to our past it tore my heart out to discover how thoroughly we have been deceived by WT teachings. You will discover as I did, that it is not Jehovah or his spirit guiding the writers of the WT publications. It couldn't possibly be, given the horrible record of false predictions and downright foolishness in many articles written in the past.
freeyourmindnow 5 years ago
I know the Jehovah's witnesses and they really try to be good people. If you want accuse that "minister" let the police placed him in the jail. Even the people who is very religious can do very big mistakes if they let it bad wishes growing. I know some ex-elders are in the jail becasuse bad behaviur about immoral, use of drugs, abuse of alcohol, bestialism and many other things. Go to the Judge or wait when God sizes him. Meanwhile, live your life better.
timmhg 5 years ago
who is this guy called 'my molester' and why did they sack him from his job as an elder?
Finkpad 5 years ago
The magazines are currently given out for free, on a donation basis. But they were indeed sold until pretty recently. The donation basis started sometime in the mid-late 80's, I believe. The switch was made from sales to "donation" in order to evade tax laws. Everyone in the congregations knows full well that they are expected to "donate" money for whatever they recieve from behind the literature counter.
mafebbo 5 years ago
Also, I believe this former JW uses the term "ordained minister" in order to allow people outside the sect to understand what he is speaking of. Of course they are technically referred to as "elders" or "ministerial servants," within the congregation, but someone outside of the organization would not understand this. It is a good call on the behalf of the video maker to use these terms in order to facilitate understanding of obscure terminology not used by anyone other than JW's.
mafebbo 5 years ago
I do not condone any molestor first of all. But I must say, the Witnesses don't sell the magazines, which he said his mother was doing, nor do they call their members ordained ministers (although they are ordained, and ministers) ther are referred to as ministerial servants, elders, and overseers. This man does not seem to have ever been a witness. Perhaps he associated with them, and I don't doubt that someone mistreated him, but his story is shaky.
6900hotshiznit 5 years ago
wow
joplin05 5 years ago
I am sorry, it does not seem like many who are posting here are educated on the practices of Jehovah's Witness congregations. These things when made known to elders are covered up to not bring reproach to God. This is a deceptive, scary, lie. Children are in danger becuase of the Watchtower policy and control over it's followers. You have a lot of strength and I hope that you have met the "real" Jesus and know that he loves you and your joy will be made complete in Christ.
Meri
meriwold 5 years ago
Meriworld Deceptive scary lies are what almost all
so called Christians practiced during WW2 while Hitler was locking up Jehovahs Witnesses for telling
the truth. Instead so called christians on both sides slaughted each other.
centsense 4 years ago
he isnt a jehovahs witness. he may of studied a few things but he s not one. he is an apostate
jlei07 5 years ago
I'm a JW here in Houston and I belive in Jehovah and his son Jesus,but I also belive theres a Satan thats going to do whatever it takes to Blame Jehovahs Witness for any accounts.Satan is talking,we know its one of his demons..We know the rules and principles and we know you have to qualify to be an elder.
stupidvid 5 years ago
"Caesars Law' applys here. The law authorities should always be notified. It's not good enough to just blame 'imperfection' or Satan. To the world, this excuse sounds cultish and flippant and makes this serious situation sound minor. Kids lives are at stake here!
pjl50 5 years ago
cant accept the truth? obviously. i was like that when i was a jw. Youll start being realistic after you open up your brain a little bit
cobras408 5 years ago
It depends on what you consider to be the truth.
andreformiga 5 years ago
he is not a real worshipper of Jehovah..
coz it is against the bible laws..
he is just one of those who practice wickedness..
prokopyow0003 5 years ago
damm satan!he's realli giving it his all nw~since the end's coming.... JW out there...beware...
hidetosui 5 years ago
Jehovah God did not fail here, but sinful man has dominated man to his injury.I am sadden by your hurt.I hope you heal and are able to forgive someday.
bushuraloser 5 years ago
At a glance the Jehovah's Witnesses have a profound pedophile cover-up because they "Bible thump" an obscure scriptural passage at 2.Corn 13:1 "..every matter requires TWO witnesses..".
The Church leaders require that there be " two witnesses" to a criminal act.
How many rapist permit a 'witness'?
Don't forget that Jehovah's Witnesses outreach by going door to door in YOUR community. Could a pedophile be knocking at your door?
DannyHaszard 5 years ago
Since when did the Kingdom Hall become a police station? If your child is molested you call the police not a religious group. They are not detectives or police officers. Why expect somebody else to do your dirty work unless of course its a lie.
powerstation777 5 years ago
Spiritual Truth, like Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, gets better as time goes on. Before 1900 or so, nobody had any idea what made the sun hot. Theology that never learns from it's mistakes is doomed to cannibalistic warfare, elves that make toys, rabbits that lay eggs, reverence for the device that killed the one they supposedly serve, and October 31st celebrating Satan's Birthday Party ala Walt Disney. Christendom still amkes Jack-O-Lanterns.
KermitdForg 5 years ago
Spiritual truth is not a science. To turn the old apple and orange cliche on it's head, you are comparing chimpanzees to supernovas. Science is empirical. Nothing religious or "spiritual" is empirical.
mafebbo 5 years ago
For the record, the previous comment is a direct reply to KermitdForg's comment, "Spiritual Truth, like Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, gets better as time goes on. "
mafebbo 5 years ago
I was there when the instructions were read one Sunday morning to all congregations everywhere in the world that all such accusations whether one or two witnesses were to be turned over to local police. The Catholics are still shuffling priests from place to place.
The Holy Spirit working on men dumb as sticks the best you can hope for is "due process". Justice you only get from God, except on occasion.
KermitdForg 5 years ago
Yes, Kermit, it may be all good and nice and out in the open NOW but for decades children/families were hushed-up by the elders. That's the truth. I know for a fact, because I was a JW for 15 years. If you are currently a JW you must know you will be considered "spiritually sick" for even seeking-out, let alone watching, this video. Look to yourself dear.
dialer2006 5 years ago
i know for a fact that the exact opposite is true they encourage it to be reported to police and may do it themselves if those involved do not. And this list you go on about is a protection it means if someone who abused someone trys to get into a different congregation they can be informed of this to protect those there.
jordyboy27 5 years ago
Im not watching this
sairz1223 5 years ago
goodweed must have been on weed when he said that im no jehovahs wittnes but im also not a liar and i know for a fact that if something like that was to happen the watch tower society wouldnt be hush hush if you dont believe me go into a kingdom hall and ask a jehovahs wittness
kage024 5 years ago
Sorry Kermit but the Watchtower actually wants ones not to go to the police but rather they want it all kept internally hush hush. Gee I wonder why? Wouldn't want Gods so called only true religion to look just like the rest of the religions right? Haha typical hypocracy of religion.
goodweedindeed 5 years ago
tell us all where you have proof of this
brasoda 5 years ago
If something happens like this It WILL be reported 2 the police Such person commiting the Sin will LOSE ALL privileges & in some cases disfellowshiped!
Get your Bible n read 1 Timothy 3:1-16
Thats the biblical scripture they base on to letting you "qualify" to be an Elder. Ive been in Jehovas witness congregation. They are extremely strict.If his family is not an example he should not be an elder So with MORE reason if the elder is the one comitting the SIN he WILL BE REMOVED.
gisevids 5 years ago
Whatever makes you say that the WatchTower wants to keep it hidden rather than reporting it to the police? Did you informed yourself very well? If you did, tell me how .
andreant 5 years ago
Andre, if you did not informed yourself either, you can't make that claim. I suggest you stop this argument for your own good.
andreformiga 5 years ago
Sometimes Justice takes a long time....I weep for this man who was abused, and hope the wolf in sheeps clothing that did this is in jail now...he should be charged and prosecuted. What makes this even more painful is that Jehovah's Witnesses are usually exceptionally exemplary people. Fortunately the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society today recommends all such accusations be reported to local police
KermitdForg 5 years ago
Fortunately the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society today recommends all such accusations be reported to local police. Why is it under their recommendation and not the victims choice.
kiana07081978 5 years ago
Cause they had over 70 lawsuits recently. They had to. Why was it not encouraged previously?
Runlikecrazy 5 years ago
This shit happens everywhere, in all kinds of different churches. Organised religion that gives out power to rule over their members are dangerus.
steffanmusic 5 years ago
I know what it's like to be in a position like this.... only it didn't go so far. And I believe you're right about the ones in position of power or with connection to it.
msdreamqueen 5 years ago
Can't you OUT him? Or would you consider that stooping to his/their level?
xrubic 5 years ago