If you must mention children in your argument, instead of saying "I hope you're child is gay", it's much more effective to say "What would you do if your child was gay"? It can be a difficult question for a bigot to answer without embarrassing their self, and will put you in a good position.
I can have a biological child, There's a few ways to get a biological child, And you're right, I probably wont get an adopted child, but that wont matter. Nonetheless, I will have a son, or daughter, and I will love them no matter what. :)
i know! people are soooo selfish! they never think bout the children! i have a friend who's father beat the gay out of him! he had to be hospitalized 4 a week and missed our prom! sad story! X(
There have been instances of homophobes becoming accepting and even campaigners for gay rights after they have a child of their own who is gay. I do not know how common this is and it seems to often happen only after the suicide or some other tragedy of the child in which case i cant see the homophobes enlightenment as being worth the price in the child's suffering.
i really do see your point scott. And it is a good one.
However i think it depends on the motive behind this persons wishing this. If it is just so it will fuck the homophobe up and cause him or her distress then i agree that is reprehensible.
If however the desire for the homophobe to have gay child comes from the hope that this might make them change their views or feelings, then it is another matter.
Who cares really? I mean honestly... we are called to love every one! Gay, straight, homophobe, politicians,,, every one... that's how the mirror of life works. You want love, you must love. Movie Quote: "For mankind and womankind alike, their existence means precisely and exactly what they think it means and what you and I think, does not really matter at all!" (Oh God! with George Burns and John Denver)
Very good point. I would not wish the horror of wildly homophobic parents on a gay person and that is what they are doing. :-S I've always taken more pleasure in thinking what problems homophobes will face when they accept they are gay and they come out.
I don't think so. Perhaps the person who say's that statement say's it with the hope that if they did have a gay child, they would see that they are the still there child who happens to be gay.
Maybe that will be enough to make them realise that they aren't something to be fear (gay people). These people will never have any pure understanding unless they experience it for themselves. And that will only happen if they have gay children.
I hope I explained well some of my thoughts about why people sometimes say the phrase. The phrase my annoy you Scott, but there is some valid reasoning to the statement. As do you have some valid reasoning as to not saying the phrase.
In conclusion, I think the people who say the statement, want the homophobic person to be confronted with "gay child" situation because the parent will likely realize they were wrong and that gay people pefectly normal and that discrimination against gay people is wrong.
Once a person realizes they have a gay child their whole outlook on gay people suddenly is confronted. Many people have to re-evauluate their concepts of gay people.
Most parents, and again even parents with a history of homophobia, want their gay children to be happy. It make take time for some parents with a history of homophobia to come to this point (or it may take no time at all, as was the case with my father).
I agree with you for the most part. It's personally a statement I never say or have ever said.
I think most many people who say the statement are saying it to cause the homophobe to think.
I'm going to say the majority of parents still love and care for a child after they find out they are gay. That's true even for people who are homophobic. My father's a good example of this.
Some of the people who say the statement wish the homophobic person to feel ashamed of their past hate.
I've thought of this scenario too and I completely agree with you; I hate it when I see/hear this argument too x_X. It would be horrible for the child to have a parent who is that homophobic, so wishing for the homophobe to have a gay child is cruel :(.
ur right at some point... infact ur right 98% of the time but its much more unlikely for a parent to get a gay child (10% chance). so even though the gay person says they are gonna have a gay child, the likely hood of getting one is minimal! therefore it would make them think b4 they speak about gay people as it would make them ask this question to themselves
"Would I really love my child for something he cant control? like autism for instance? which is also minimalin number..."
right your are 1005 % right about this Some young guys have homophobic families, that will kick them out of the house when they turn 18. Adding them to the young gay homeless population. about 1,000,000 gay kids a year go homeless just this was.
Gay/Straight alliance FTW
mrshank78 2 weeks ago
If you must mention children in your argument, instead of saying "I hope you're child is gay", it's much more effective to say "What would you do if your child was gay"? It can be a difficult question for a bigot to answer without embarrassing their self, and will put you in a good position.
DrakeNecrosis 7 months ago
Gay men rule
julesario 7 months ago
I'm gay, And I wish my son or daughter will be gay! It would be the best!
tylergwile 9 months ago
@tylergwile You won't have a biological son or daughter.. and I doubt you will ever get an adopted child :)
orrie10 4 months ago
@orrie10 Really? How do you figure?
I can have a biological child, There's a few ways to get a biological child, And you're right, I probably wont get an adopted child, but that wont matter. Nonetheless, I will have a son, or daughter, and I will love them no matter what. :)
tylergwile 4 months ago
@tylergwile Have sex with a woman... and don't use no artificial method of impregnanting some surrogate woman lol
orrie10 4 months ago
Makes sense, but does saying "I hope you have straight children" sound any better to you?
b28e 1 year ago
@b28e Uh no? Don't sound uneducated. Don't say anything of the sort obv
Decadon290 10 months ago
On the other hand, if the child is someone like you, their atitude would likely change. the power of understanding is strong.
sleekcartim 2 years ago
Good point. I never thought about it that way before.
DominoesTequila 2 years ago
i know! people are soooo selfish! they never think bout the children! i have a friend who's father beat the gay out of him! he had to be hospitalized 4 a week and missed our prom! sad story! X(
leahcortina 2 years ago
I always say, I hope you have heterosexual children!
Just kidding... Nice video
emeralds222 2 years ago
I agree -
By the way did you ever look up Todd Tuttle and Marc Addam's "Heartstrong" website?
heartstrong org
They go in and deal with the belly of the beast on this issue. Check it out.
JCJasion 2 years ago
I AGREE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. One should never want to place a person of such great value with a loser homophobe.
IanJellic0 2 years ago
There have been instances of homophobes becoming accepting and even campaigners for gay rights after they have a child of their own who is gay. I do not know how common this is and it seems to often happen only after the suicide or some other tragedy of the child in which case i cant see the homophobes enlightenment as being worth the price in the child's suffering.
Still, if they had this in mind...
theskilled99 2 years ago
i really do see your point scott. And it is a good one.
However i think it depends on the motive behind this persons wishing this. If it is just so it will fuck the homophobe up and cause him or her distress then i agree that is reprehensible.
If however the desire for the homophobe to have gay child comes from the hope that this might make them change their views or feelings, then it is another matter.
theskilled99 2 years ago 2
Who cares really? I mean honestly... we are called to love every one! Gay, straight, homophobe, politicians,,, every one... that's how the mirror of life works. You want love, you must love. Movie Quote: "For mankind and womankind alike, their existence means precisely and exactly what they think it means and what you and I think, does not really matter at all!" (Oh God! with George Burns and John Denver)
psgregerrn 2 years ago
Very good point. I would not wish the horror of wildly homophobic parents on a gay person and that is what they are doing. :-S I've always taken more pleasure in thinking what problems homophobes will face when they accept they are gay and they come out.
garysdeskcom 2 years ago
And that is our best chance that they will be accepting of this community.
I don't think they have moral high ground if we make that statement. It's the hope that at some stage in the future there will be an understanding.
BlogsofWoolhouse 2 years ago
I don't think so. Perhaps the person who say's that statement say's it with the hope that if they did have a gay child, they would see that they are the still there child who happens to be gay.
Maybe that will be enough to make them realise that they aren't something to be fear (gay people). These people will never have any pure understanding unless they experience it for themselves. And that will only happen if they have gay children.
BlogsofWoolhouse 2 years ago
Good Point!
eclecticcreator 2 years ago
I hope I explained well some of my thoughts about why people sometimes say the phrase. The phrase my annoy you Scott, but there is some valid reasoning to the statement. As do you have some valid reasoning as to not saying the phrase.
=)
Erik
StraightActingGayGuy 2 years ago 2
In conclusion, I think the people who say the statement, want the homophobic person to be confronted with "gay child" situation because the parent will likely realize they were wrong and that gay people pefectly normal and that discrimination against gay people is wrong.
StraightActingGayGuy 2 years ago 2
Once a person realizes they have a gay child their whole outlook on gay people suddenly is confronted. Many people have to re-evauluate their concepts of gay people.
Most parents, and again even parents with a history of homophobia, want their gay children to be happy. It make take time for some parents with a history of homophobia to come to this point (or it may take no time at all, as was the case with my father).
StraightActingGayGuy 2 years ago 2
I agree with you for the most part. It's personally a statement I never say or have ever said.
I think most many people who say the statement are saying it to cause the homophobe to think.
I'm going to say the majority of parents still love and care for a child after they find out they are gay. That's true even for people who are homophobic. My father's a good example of this.
Some of the people who say the statement wish the homophobic person to feel ashamed of their past hate.
StraightActingGayGuy 2 years ago 2
I've thought of this scenario too and I completely agree with you; I hate it when I see/hear this argument too x_X. It would be horrible for the child to have a parent who is that homophobic, so wishing for the homophobe to have a gay child is cruel :(.
altimacloud81 2 years ago
ur right at some point... infact ur right 98% of the time but its much more unlikely for a parent to get a gay child (10% chance). so even though the gay person says they are gonna have a gay child, the likely hood of getting one is minimal! therefore it would make them think b4 they speak about gay people as it would make them ask this question to themselves
"Would I really love my child for something he cant control? like autism for instance? which is also minimalin number..."
sadguyfoundout1 2 years ago
right your are 1005 % right about this Some young guys have homophobic families, that will kick them out of the house when they turn 18. Adding them to the young gay homeless population. about 1,000,000 gay kids a year go homeless just this was.
WizardofTacoma 2 years ago