im thinking they will add something that evolves from roaches that is lurker like, since the reason they removed the lurker was because hydras where a higher tier and players rarely used them.
@246trinitrotoluene haha. For a second, i thought you were saying how bad lurkers were for the original starcraft game. xD. But, yeah. Lurkers might not be the best for SC II. But who knows, they might change some things around in H.O.T.S.
in starcraft 2 how can u play a game using lurkers, i tried custom games in single player but its just the same as a league game, and in multiplayer join games there are way too many other games to lok through. I thought u could play a game vs the AI where u would have all the units available instead of just the league units like terrans goliath, wraith, and firebat. zerg units being the lurker, abomination, and guardian just to name a few anyone who knows plz help about the AI games all units
@ForeverGoth Create a custom game with one of the custom maps that have all units available, there are a few of them and with the new custom game interface it should be pretty easy to find one
in starcraft 2 how can u play a game using lurkers, i tried custom games in single player but its just the same as a league game, and in multiplayer join games there are way too many other games to lok through. I thought u could play a game vs the AI where u would have all the units available instead of just the league units like terrans goliath, wraith, and firebat. zerg units being the lurker, abomination, and guardian just to name a few anyone who knows plz help about the AI games all units
@WgaTray later on today, lol I just found out how to bring back the old units to customized game
thanks though =D I plan to use them as heroes!! to get them back with other units, youll have to open other maps they have, then make a new map and you get tons of more unit selection thanks wgatray for bringing this to my attention
@WgaTray later on today, lol I just found out how to bring back the old units to customized game
thanks though =D I plan to use them as heroes!! to get them back with other units, youll have to open other maps they have, then make a new map and you get tons of more unit selection thanks wgatray for bringing this to my attention
The first time I saw this I was ecstatic, but they never went through with this! Zerg NEEDS an early ground siege unit/anti barracks/gateway unit like this. Sure they Baneling works well but we need something of the ranged variety too. This would help against most turtlers (hide right up against the wall and with an Ovie just snipe off the wall) and even turn the tides of most battles than solely relying on some mass Muta/ling force to win battles.
Cannot believe they take lurkers away from us, and banelings? Who cares! I don't want them! Blizzard can do anything they want with that unit, it looks like something from Toys R Us. Put Lurkers in tier 3, I don't care! Just give them to me!! Or I'm going back to something that is now over ten years old, please don't do that to me. I don't want to die inside.
Right, okay I'll tell yo what, You use your lurkers, and I'll use my roaches. My cheaper, quicker and better armored Roaches. Go ahead and burrow to attack, I'll burrow and move along.
Lurkers are god, i like them don;t get me wrong. But Roaches are better. Now if they give lurkers the ability to move while burrowed in HotS... They will become superior again.
@Rockwarrior2004 You are crazy. Lurkers can attack while burrowed. They do area of effect damage. They are like fast moving spine crawlers that can root off creep.
@FullmetalLakers824 Pretty much everything > Roaches... (not that they're not strong...) It even starts with the name. Stupid stuff like Roachalisk or Roachling would've sounded better, I mean dear god. Roaches? Really, Blizzard?
In the other two expansions, they will have to add units, and not only in campaign but also in mulitplayer, because if they don't, people that only buy the game for the multiplayer aspect will not have the need to buy them. So, maybe the lurker will be part of the Zerg's expansion. Just maybe.
@TaoriUTS so true... but right now at mid high diamond level, 5 rax reaper is my biggest ragequitting thing. i dont mind thors as much because of neural parasite and marauders to lings but 5 rax reapers on lost temple is auto gg since if u get roaches they would either speed it up and harras or marauder switch. if u ling speed then u can counter a bit but thats only the smaller numbers. spine crawlers get killed so only thing left is mutas
@mitsushiro7 and then they switch to marines, stim and rape those also. played terran yesterday just for a laugh. i am so bad and clueless and i still win just by flooding rax units and slowly teching to medivacs. its so disturbung
@DudethatGross But the infestors require the last building in the Zerg tree while protoss can almost zerg you with invisible units, and if you want infestors quick to defend yourself then you'll loose in other ways, i dont want to be all whine but i cant play zerg anymore, they are way underpowered and i can easy win as terran where i loose as zerg
@maximo9444 True, but if you also think about it roaches can move underground so if you go to attack with them underground, they can go into the mineral line and hrass the shit out of the workers. And if the other person comes back to attack your roaches, the roaches can fight and burrow, fight and burrow. But yes, I do agree that lurkers were the best thing that happened to zerg. Because they are pure awesomeness
rofl how unfair where lurkers i havent played thsi game but people told me you cant even attack them while they are attackin u underground good thing they where removed :D
@tiracdemonhunterfear Actually no not unfair at all. If you have detection they can be attacked easily, and killed. You can also force your opponents to unburrow if you just avoid it for a bit, and they try to move in.
which is COMPLETE bullshit since they had it in ALPHA where all the races didn't even have proper tactics yet!
if they REALLY wanted to know if it was being underused they'd have it in the beta and then remove it.
they're saving it up for heart of the swarm. there's no way they would just remove them from the alpha just like that without having an idea behind it.
right now zerg is kinda broken. needs a major change TBH.
Like, why have a wraith when there is a banshee? or why have a banshee when there is a wraith? Cuts wraith out, The lack of detection in this game having things like vulture mines would be overpowered. Why have a vulture or a fire-bat when you have a hellion, just things like this where they wouldn't have room for the new units if they kept the old ones. Personally i like the new changes.
@GuitarMasterGraeme like why have lurkers when they would help zerg in oh so many ways? why have lurkers when TvZ would become much more balanced? why have lurkers when they're overall a balanced and good unit?
protoss has very fast observers and lurkers forces terrans to save up scans or get ravens.
ZvT at the moment is my easiest matchup as a zerg player. ZvP is the one i have most problems with, if you are a fellow zerg player you would know that stalkers are way overpowered.
You cant have lurkers if you have investors and roaches which move underground together, can mind control, can spawn 5 infested Terran per investor FROM underground. The lurker with those units would stop people being able to kill investors etc, it would be an over powered unit with the units that exist.
@GuitarMasterGraeme that's weird cause i've got shit easy time vs zerg and an almost just as easy time vs protoss. i have NO chance against a good terran however.
probably just a macro kind of thing, i'm not as good at macro but my micro makes up for that vs zerg and protoss it seems.
and i don't know what you're talking about? infestors you mean? and why would lurkers stop people from being able to kill infestors?
Yeah you will have an easy time against Protoss, most Protoss players shag stalkers so all you gotta do is get some Marauders ^^ Always love to have a Terran Teammate haha.
Yeah sorry bad mispell, Infestors. Well what i mean is all you gotta do is make the infestors pump mass of infested terran to divert the opponent so you could stick your lurkers down, pretty much owned at that point. Then move up and repeat. Would be a bit overpowered if you ask me lol :P
@GuitarMasterGraeme you're talking about 2v2? i'm talking about 1v1 here. also any player above silver will have detection if they see you going for infestors (in the form of ravens or observers or overseer as zerg) which means that you'll die trying to pump out infested marines and not having another army nearby will get your lurkers killed very fast.
it's not overpowered since unless you're going vs bronze/silver you won't have enough time or economy to get that many infestors anyway.
@GuitarMasterGraeme "shag stalkers so all you gotta do is get some Marauders ^^ Always love to have a Terran Teammate haha." that was the first thing you said so i take that as you're talking about 2v2.
and still infestors are useless once detection is up, just usable to go against newly put up and at the moment unguarded expos and even then it's better to not be burrowed to get infestors there faster to spawn infested terrans, it wouldn't be OP at all tbh.
When you open the map editor, click on new and make a new Campaign Map. All the units from campaign plus the lurkers are in there. You could also play Nexus Wars on B.Net to see them
the new roach is not a lurker.....i hope they return some of the brood war units in some expansion or something, but no way in hell will i pay for 3 games just to play all three campaigns
Lurkers and all old SC units can still be used in the mapmaker. So yeah, Lurkers still exist. But I really hope they won't burrow that fast IF they decide to bring the lurker back in multy player
@Armalizilto Not to be a party pooper, but that's highly unlikely. At least in Wings of Liberty, but it the lurker may return in the Zerg campaign expansion. I'm hoping.
@generalshrooms everyone should thumbs up your comment, thats the same as firebats and most if not all the SC1 units are in SC2 just not in multiplayer because of balance issues.
@jose1791 most likely in the heart of the zerg expansion, i mean they took out fire bats and medics for terran, dragoons and scout for protoss. zerg gotta kick some unit outta the door.
@jose1791 They said that in the campaigns you'll have access to units from SC and BW but not in the multiplayer. They've been thinking about working them into the custom maps unit choices, but I could be wrong about that.
@jose1791 I wish the lurkers were in SC2 as well, but how odd would it be to receive the unit in an expansion when they did that 10 years ago with Brood War?
@jose1791 oh they will. They are actually in the game. Open the editor, select campaign and you will see that they actually exist. There are a lot of other units too that were not in the campaign.
@jose1791 there's going to be a zerg expansion and a protoss expansion, so they'll prolly bring the lurker back in the zerg expansion single player just like they did with the Starcraft 2 single player with terran units such as the firebat and vulture
@jose1791 I hate people for constantly nagging and bitching about Blizzard trying to make the game different enough from its predecessor to actually be worth playing. Deal with it.
@gjgkhgjfhgjklhklhglj man.. lurkers ARE base defense. lol. that pretty much all they were good for. lol but if they do bring them in H.O.T.S. i hope they can move while burrowed like the roaches and infestors.
this was first shown clipps of starcraft 2 later on in the development they problably decided to drop the lurkers : P as for many other units that were in the beta from the begining but now are out
And you guys.. Was if fcking worth it to start flaming to me? I just posted a fcking comment. Then you started this whole shit, you dont need to comment that I am stupid or anything like that.. JUST DONT FCKING CARE! Its not the whole word if I post a comment!!!! >:O
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Lol... In SC1 Terran is weak compared to the ohters :P In SC1 Zerg is the strongest... in SC2 it seems like protoss and Terran have become A LOT stronger and better o_O... So Idk who is better nao XD
Nah not really... Terran is actually the weakest... But yeah zerg is not the strongest... Idk why I said that xD The protoss are overpowered in sc1... In sc2 terran is overpowered... hmm if there is gonna be a sc3 I think zerg will be overpowered there XDDD
@bequietoov No I am not a noob, not even close to be a noob. If you would have any idea about starcraft then you should understand why I said they are weak. I don't really understand why people disagree with the truth but... what ever.
@SinjidOfFlash People disagree with the truth because it's your truth, not their truth. My truth is Terran without Siege Tank, nuke and battle cruiser could be fairly weak, but it's obviously never become the truth. Zerg is not strongest, I really love to see Zerg player moving their Luker and Zergling around the map trying to avoid Siege tank.
disliked to keep the neutralness!
blizrfiz 3 months ago
Lurkers are more like replacing banelings. Never liked them, suicide units anyway...
kriszium 3 months ago
240p, we meet again
MrPluii 4 months ago
im thinking they will add something that evolves from roaches that is lurker like, since the reason they removed the lurker was because hydras where a higher tier and players rarely used them.
ProGamer194 5 months ago
its a artosis pylon
Bretskelton 5 months ago
Wait a minute how did you do this because there is no lurkers in SC2 ????
MrMilan90 5 months ago
i actually hope that they dont add the lurker... I think that zerg has plenty of burrow focused units without having a burrow siege unit
zefreelive 6 months ago
lurkers>roaches
but...
lurkers<ultralisks
starcraft902 7 months ago
they didnt include lurkers in wol because they needed an important zerg unit for the expansion
JocJav 7 months ago
the old stalker model looked better in my opinion compared to the one used today... T^T
FenixT93 8 months ago
I want lurkers back so bad T.T
cabradabra 8 months ago
HOPE THEY WILL BRING HIM BACK IN HART OF THE SWARM
MOHWORDLIFE 9 months ago
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bordooobereli 9 months ago
Lurker will make zerg OP race for sure. Infestor's neural, banelings, lurker combination will dominate terran's 3Ms easily.
DuoSpear 9 months ago 2
@DuoSpear yeah, if only terrans had scans.
AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
@AEgamesFtw It's terran, and they do have scans, dumbass..
elusuario989 7 months ago
@elusuario989 It's irony, and it does have sarcasm, dumbass..
AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
@AEgamesFtw Oh ok, now shut the fuck up, dumbass..
elusuario989 7 months ago
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AEgamesFtw 7 months ago
@DuoSpear i'd say getting one tech lab on a starport and getting like 4 banshees and a raven could easily dismantle that
NewAgeEagles 6 months ago
GIVE ME BACK MY LURKERD!
chrstilen5 9 months ago
If this game were just a tiny bit realistic, they'd make roaches immune to nukes xD
wariq12345 10 months ago 2
@wariq12345 cockroaches are immune to radiation, not to the scorching heat of an atomic explosion
coprographia 10 months ago
@coprographia In fact, good sir, I am a cockroach, and I assure you that I have indeed survived a number of atomic explosions back in my day.
Malaikat31 10 months ago
i want Lurker(lisks?) and Roverlisk in Heart of the swarm and i want new Protoss ad new terran units... that would be very nice^^
MrM4ns0n 10 months ago
cant wait for the lurker to come back in the zerg campain in heart of the swarm, as probabaly the scourge and defiler too =O
bravesirrobin99 10 months ago
I hope they don't add lurkers.
They ruined the flow of zerg. Especially with observers being so cheap, and scans being so readily available, lurkers would just get owned.
Even as support units, they could only be used with roaches to tank the hits while they get set up...
Think about it, lurkers, although nostalgic, aren't good for the game.
246trinitrotoluene 11 months ago
@246trinitrotoluene Actually, there's a custom game mode for SC2 multiplayer where you can use lurkers. They're really helpful early on in the game.
Rapture265 11 months ago
@246trinitrotoluene haha. For a second, i thought you were saying how bad lurkers were for the original starcraft game. xD. But, yeah. Lurkers might not be the best for SC II. But who knows, they might change some things around in H.O.T.S.
ericnrivers 11 months ago
if blizzard makes people pay to play sc2, ppl will go crazy
TheBallerxhee 11 months ago
@TheBallerxhee lol wtf you DO have to buy it and its 60 bucks
vidloaf 10 months ago
in starcraft 2 how can u play a game using lurkers, i tried custom games in single player but its just the same as a league game, and in multiplayer join games there are way too many other games to lok through. I thought u could play a game vs the AI where u would have all the units available instead of just the league units like terrans goliath, wraith, and firebat. zerg units being the lurker, abomination, and guardian just to name a few anyone who knows plz help about the AI games all units
ForeverGoth 11 months ago
@ForeverGoth Create a custom game with one of the custom maps that have all units available, there are a few of them and with the new custom game interface it should be pretty easy to find one
DarkBobb 11 months ago
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in starcraft 2 how can u play a game using lurkers, i tried custom games in single player but its just the same as a league game, and in multiplayer join games there are way too many other games to lok through. I thought u could play a game vs the AI where u would have all the units available instead of just the league units like terrans goliath, wraith, and firebat. zerg units being the lurker, abomination, and guardian just to name a few anyone who knows plz help about the AI games all units
ForeverGoth 11 months ago
lurker would rape the protoss deathball
thebluemeaner 11 months ago
@thebluemeaner
Not really.
1. Obs and Thermal Lance (or immortal if armored)
2. Void rays
246trinitrotoluene 11 months ago
Wow. You guys are debating about Starcraft in youtube...? lol.
digimon969 1 year ago
so when will they put these units in the game?
GrugNorg 1 year ago
thank god they took it out
moad 1 year ago
did you customized the lurker or is there a way to get the old units back in galaxy mode?
ExizerChrono 1 year ago
@ExizerChrono No, this video is before the original game. I'm sorry.
WgaTray 1 year ago
@WgaTray later on today, lol I just found out how to bring back the old units to customized game
thanks though =D I plan to use them as heroes!! to get them back with other units, youll have to open other maps they have, then make a new map and you get tons of more unit selection thanks wgatray for bringing this to my attention
ExizerChrono 1 year ago
@ExizerChrono You're welcome.
WgaTray 1 year ago
@WgaTray later on today, lol I just found out how to bring back the old units to customized game
thanks though =D I plan to use them as heroes!! to get them back with other units, youll have to open other maps they have, then make a new map and you get tons of more unit selection thanks wgatray for bringing this to my attention
ExizerChrono 1 year ago
@ExizerChrono Make a new map using Campaign settings instead of melee.
NodTrooper 3 months ago
I hope they never bring back the lurker. Thank god blizzard replaced them with the roach
DrDuck7700 1 year ago
I don't get how lurkers can shoot spikes off the ground. can someone explain to me?
oh these lurkers need to have a second longer burrowing time like in brood war.
wayneski1290 1 year ago
The first time I saw this I was ecstatic, but they never went through with this! Zerg NEEDS an early ground siege unit/anti barracks/gateway unit like this. Sure they Baneling works well but we need something of the ranged variety too. This would help against most turtlers (hide right up against the wall and with an Ovie just snipe off the wall) and even turn the tides of most battles than solely relying on some mass Muta/ling force to win battles.
Jhazmon 1 year ago
Cannot believe they take lurkers away from us, and banelings? Who cares! I don't want them! Blizzard can do anything they want with that unit, it looks like something from Toys R Us. Put Lurkers in tier 3, I don't care! Just give them to me!! Or I'm going back to something that is now over ten years old, please don't do that to me. I don't want to die inside.
BarlowEnter 1 year ago
Hopefully, the Lurkers will show up in Heart of the Swarm.
Btw, thumbs up if you think Lurkers >>>>>>>> Roaches
FullmetalLakers824 1 year ago 138
@FullmetalLakers824
Lurker < Roaches
Lurker Pro: Ground seige, ranged
Lurker con: Can only attack while burowed
Roach Pro: Fast heal while burrow, mobility while burrowed, Armored
Roach Con: limited range,
Rockwarrior2004 1 year ago
@Rockwarrior2004 dude are you serious? lurkers have aoe damage, which makes them so much better than roaches.
shuangxing66 1 year ago
@shuangxing66
Right, okay I'll tell yo what, You use your lurkers, and I'll use my roaches. My cheaper, quicker and better armored Roaches. Go ahead and burrow to attack, I'll burrow and move along.
Lurkers are god, i like them don;t get me wrong. But Roaches are better. Now if they give lurkers the ability to move while burrowed in HotS... They will become superior again.
Rockwarrior2004 1 year ago
@Rockwarrior2004 You are crazy. Lurkers can attack while burrowed. They do area of effect damage. They are like fast moving spine crawlers that can root off creep.
Malagraves 1 year ago
@FullmetalLakers824
Roaches aren't the replacements for lurkers, banelings are.
But yeah Lurkers >>>>>>>>>>>> Banelings.
someguyoutthere110 11 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 i wonder if, as the new SCII expansions come out, more units will be introduced into multiplayer also?
popshuvitskater 10 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 No shit lurkers are freaking invis man
JanWey91 9 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 Lurkers were tier 2-2.5 and roaches are tier 1.5
Most importantly is that hydras were > roaches.
AEgamesFtw 8 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 Lurkers are, in fact, fully made in SC2. They're just currently unused. There's even a lurker den building :D
Nebuli2 7 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 Lurkers are already in SC2... you just need to use the editor.
Nebuli2 6 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 Herp derp one-man balance team.
Savci008 6 months ago
roaches >>>>>>>>>>>> lurkers in terms of practicality.
What are you going to defend against protoss or terran push with early game? Zerglings?
sangyuni96 5 months ago
@FullmetalLakers824 Pretty much everything > Roaches... (not that they're not strong...) It even starts with the name. Stupid stuff like Roachalisk or Roachling would've sounded better, I mean dear god. Roaches? Really, Blizzard?
ImperatorZed 4 months ago
@ImperatorZed yes. really.
mchlee159357 4 months ago
Lurkers are still coded in,
You can see them while playing Nexus Wars
I would be surprised if they didnt bring them back for the upcoming zerg expansion
DtDust 1 year ago
In the other two expansions, they will have to add units, and not only in campaign but also in mulitplayer, because if they don't, people that only buy the game for the multiplayer aspect will not have the need to buy them. So, maybe the lurker will be part of the Zerg's expansion. Just maybe.
TheLolgodlol 1 year ago
hopefully the lurker available in campagin mode
reverberate79 1 year ago
I did not know that the lurker was gonna be in sc2. Too bad they removed it.
TheLolgodlol 1 year ago
Lurkers removed from the game....thors and siege tanks still in the game. What is THIS??
Paskovitchz 1 year ago
@Paskovitchz Thors are new units that came in Starcraft 2 so why would they be removed
ode4951 1 year ago
i always liked the sound when the lurker attacks
bonnolog 1 year ago
blizzard should do something about the thors, they're too powerful and imbalanced
mitsushiro7 1 year ago
@mitsushiro7 dont forget marauders..
TaoriUTS 1 year ago
@TaoriUTS so true... but right now at mid high diamond level, 5 rax reaper is my biggest ragequitting thing. i dont mind thors as much because of neural parasite and marauders to lings but 5 rax reapers on lost temple is auto gg since if u get roaches they would either speed it up and harras or marauder switch. if u ling speed then u can counter a bit but thats only the smaller numbers. spine crawlers get killed so only thing left is mutas
mitsushiro7 1 year ago
@mitsushiro7 and then they switch to marines, stim and rape those also. played terran yesterday just for a laugh. i am so bad and clueless and i still win just by flooding rax units and slowly teching to medivacs. its so disturbung
TaoriUTS 1 year ago
@mitsushiro7 thors op : / an immortal can 1v1 a thor and its a tier 2... infestors can own thors literally, zerglings own thors... hope ur joking lol
AcidBugler 1 year ago
@AcidBugler i sed i didnt mind thors, i sed neural parasite didnt i? u should carefully read my message before commenting...
mitsushiro7 1 year ago
i want brood war with sc2 grafic
MrChesterfield1986 1 year ago
they will prolly be campaign only units jus tlike firebats and medics
kolbot 1 year ago
so now zerg doesn't have any fuking invisible attacking unit :)
AnhnguyenYW 1 year ago
@AnhnguyenYW infestors can cast infested terran while burrowed also roach can burrow and move...
Tracerburn 1 year ago
in the end, zerg needs at least 7 more new or old units
southside58 1 year ago
lurker isn't cheap... it's the best thing that has happened to the zerg...
zerg is so weak without lurker, i mean protoss has their own dark templer with cloaking shit, terran has their banshee, ghost, spectrum that cloak
zerg has nothing in SC II
southside58 1 year ago
They have infestors that can move underground and spawn infested terrans from underground
DudethatGross 1 year ago
@DudethatGross But the infestors require the last building in the Zerg tree while protoss can almost zerg you with invisible units, and if you want infestors quick to defend yourself then you'll loose in other ways, i dont want to be all whine but i cant play zerg anymore, they are way underpowered and i can easy win as terran where i loose as zerg
maximo9444 1 year ago
@maximo9444 True, but if you also think about it roaches can move underground so if you go to attack with them underground, they can go into the mineral line and hrass the shit out of the workers. And if the other person comes back to attack your roaches, the roaches can fight and burrow, fight and burrow. But yes, I do agree that lurkers were the best thing that happened to zerg. Because they are pure awesomeness
DudethatGross 1 year ago
rofl how unfair where lurkers i havent played thsi game but people told me you cant even attack them while they are attackin u underground good thing they where removed :D
tiracdemonhunterfear 1 year ago
@tiracdemonhunterfear Actually no not unfair at all. If you have detection they can be attacked easily, and killed. You can also force your opponents to unburrow if you just avoid it for a bit, and they try to move in.
tjhiry29 1 year ago
@tiracdemonhunterfear The other factions have invisible units that can attack you but you cant shoot back. Now the zerg dont have something like that
Rendarg 1 year ago
SC2 removes so many good sc1 units its so fucking retarded.
scrapper1280 1 year ago
their reason was "it was underused"
which is COMPLETE bullshit since they had it in ALPHA where all the races didn't even have proper tactics yet!
if they REALLY wanted to know if it was being underused they'd have it in the beta and then remove it.
they're saving it up for heart of the swarm. there's no way they would just remove them from the alpha just like that without having an idea behind it.
right now zerg is kinda broken. needs a major change TBH.
shumped 1 year ago
@shumped
It wasn't just that, there were unbalancing issues.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme like what?
shumped 1 year ago
@shumped
Like, why have a wraith when there is a banshee? or why have a banshee when there is a wraith? Cuts wraith out, The lack of detection in this game having things like vulture mines would be overpowered. Why have a vulture or a fire-bat when you have a hellion, just things like this where they wouldn't have room for the new units if they kept the old ones. Personally i like the new changes.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme like why have lurkers when they would help zerg in oh so many ways? why have lurkers when TvZ would become much more balanced? why have lurkers when they're overall a balanced and good unit?
protoss has very fast observers and lurkers forces terrans to save up scans or get ravens.
it's just perfect.
shumped 1 year ago
@shumped
ZvT at the moment is my easiest matchup as a zerg player. ZvP is the one i have most problems with, if you are a fellow zerg player you would know that stalkers are way overpowered.
You cant have lurkers if you have investors and roaches which move underground together, can mind control, can spawn 5 infested Terran per investor FROM underground. The lurker with those units would stop people being able to kill investors etc, it would be an over powered unit with the units that exist.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme that's weird cause i've got shit easy time vs zerg and an almost just as easy time vs protoss. i have NO chance against a good terran however.
probably just a macro kind of thing, i'm not as good at macro but my micro makes up for that vs zerg and protoss it seems.
and i don't know what you're talking about? infestors you mean? and why would lurkers stop people from being able to kill infestors?
shumped 1 year ago
@shumped
Yeah you will have an easy time against Protoss, most Protoss players shag stalkers so all you gotta do is get some Marauders ^^ Always love to have a Terran Teammate haha.
Yeah sorry bad mispell, Infestors. Well what i mean is all you gotta do is make the infestors pump mass of infested terran to divert the opponent so you could stick your lurkers down, pretty much owned at that point. Then move up and repeat. Would be a bit overpowered if you ask me lol :P
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme you're talking about 2v2? i'm talking about 1v1 here. also any player above silver will have detection if they see you going for infestors (in the form of ravens or observers or overseer as zerg) which means that you'll die trying to pump out infested marines and not having another army nearby will get your lurkers killed very fast.
it's not overpowered since unless you're going vs bronze/silver you won't have enough time or economy to get that many infestors anyway.
shumped 1 year ago
@shumped
Well i was referring to 1v1 first then my last comment was a 2v2 thing.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme "shag stalkers so all you gotta do is get some Marauders ^^ Always love to have a Terran Teammate haha." that was the first thing you said so i take that as you're talking about 2v2.
and still infestors are useless once detection is up, just usable to go against newly put up and at the moment unguarded expos and even then it's better to not be burrowed to get infestors there faster to spawn infested terrans, it wouldn't be OP at all tbh.
shumped 1 year ago
Dont worry, They will have lurkers in the Zerg version.. I hope.
bornkilla123 1 year ago
When you open the map editor, click on new and make a new Campaign Map. All the units from campaign plus the lurkers are in there. You could also play Nexus Wars on B.Net to see them
AzureHoBo 1 year ago
Lurkers will most probably be in the campaign
Just like the goliaths, medics, firebats and vultures.
Illisidan 1 year ago
lurkers were over powered!
PikminInvader 1 year ago
the new roach is not a lurker.....i hope they return some of the brood war units in some expansion or something, but no way in hell will i pay for 3 games just to play all three campaigns
MrSimon510 1 year ago
@MrSimon510 I will =)
Nickothepicko 1 year ago
i think i heard somewhere, that lurkers are going to be in the map editor, so theyre not completely removed
Splashingveins2 1 year ago
If any they'll be in campaign, just like firebats and goliaths
xdtnx 1 year ago
When real game comes out they might put them in.
Hastdsa 1 year ago
@Hastdsa I doubt it. Why would they remove it from the beta and release it in the game?
MattBaumann777 1 year ago
why did blizzard take out the lurker?
DoTaDAwg 1 year ago
well they may not have them in multiplayer but i heard they are adding much of the old units to the story mode.
MrCharzard101 1 year ago
Lurkers and all old SC units can still be used in the mapmaker. So yeah, Lurkers still exist. But I really hope they won't burrow that fast IF they decide to bring the lurker back in multy player
Thomean 1 year ago 2
pretty sure the lurkers will return. didn't they say even firebats will be in the vanilla game.
heavytrike 1 year ago
Blizzard is still testing the Zerg in the beta with feedback help from many people.
There's a chance they may bring back the Lurker unit for the official game.
Armalizilto 1 year ago
@Armalizilto Not to be a party pooper, but that's highly unlikely. At least in Wings of Liberty, but it the lurker may return in the Zerg campaign expansion. I'm hoping.
Champ721 1 year ago
They are still in the game just not in multiplayer.
generalshrooms 1 year ago 6
@generalshrooms everyone should thumbs up your comment, thats the same as firebats and most if not all the SC1 units are in SC2 just not in multiplayer because of balance issues.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
starcraft isn't startcraft without lurkers. :|
marines345 1 year ago 2
I hate Blizzard for removing lurkers from SC2. just hoping they come back in some expansion
jose1791 1 year ago 75
@jose1791 most likely in the heart of the zerg expansion, i mean they took out fire bats and medics for terran, dragoons and scout for protoss. zerg gotta kick some unit outta the door.
zmanx5 1 year ago
@jose1791 They said that in the campaigns you'll have access to units from SC and BW but not in the multiplayer. They've been thinking about working them into the custom maps unit choices, but I could be wrong about that.
Nioax 1 year ago 2
@jose1791 i hate them too, Love lurkers tho :D
janderwel 1 year ago
@jose1791 They are in the campaign and most likely available in UMS maps.
DarkFang94 1 year ago
@jose1791 yeah no lurkers for the zerg players !!!!!
johnnyluffy 1 year ago
@jose1791 I wish the lurkers were in SC2 as well, but how odd would it be to receive the unit in an expansion when they did that 10 years ago with Brood War?
Darkhunter213 1 year ago
@jose1791 oh they will. They are actually in the game. Open the editor, select campaign and you will see that they actually exist. There are a lot of other units too that were not in the campaign.
Br3akTh3W1nd 1 year ago
@jose1791 there's going to be a zerg expansion and a protoss expansion, so they'll prolly bring the lurker back in the zerg expansion single player just like they did with the Starcraft 2 single player with terran units such as the firebat and vulture
sirmousalot11 1 year ago
@jose1791 I am glad they aren't
AcidBlades 1 year ago
@jose1791 u can use them in a use map settings game
11FrenchFry 1 year ago
@jose1791 I hate people for constantly nagging and bitching about Blizzard trying to make the game different enough from its predecessor to actually be worth playing. Deal with it.
Dazuro 1 year ago
@jose1791 Really crossing my fingers that they add in the Lurker in H.O.T.S.
Whenever that day occurs...knowing blizzard, my Grandkids wil be waiting around for it...
TwiceKnightly30 1 year ago 36
@TwiceKnightly30 well one of the guys making it said he guessed around a year from now so i expect it to release around 2020
UltimaRatio1124 8 months ago 3
@jose1791 They still have the lurker model and animations in the game.
MahajiHaji 1 year ago
@jose1791 The funny thing about them is that they do 15 (+15 armored) which would be EPIC to have vs Mech.
NeedMoarRoagz 1 year ago
@jose1791 i can assure you the lurker will come back... atleast in the campain
MrEmostil 1 year ago
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@jose1791 i can assure you the lurker will come back... atleast in the campaign
MrEmostil 1 year ago
@jose1791 yea, i was pissed because next to the goliath, the lurker is one of the best looking units on SC
salviauser 1 year ago
@jose1791 I'm glad they're gone. Would've been a nightmare fending off lurkers that break through to the mineral line.
L4DWonton 1 year ago
@L4DWonton By the time someone can tech to Lurkers, you should have some decent base defense to prevent lurkers. >_>
gjgkhgjfhgjklhklhglj 1 year ago
@gjgkhgjfhgjklhklhglj man.. lurkers ARE base defense. lol. that pretty much all they were good for. lol but if they do bring them in H.O.T.S. i hope they can move while burrowed like the roaches and infestors.
YHLGguitargeek 11 months ago
@jose1791 it would only seem ethical since lurkers werent introduced until the expansion for the first game anyway
lagmaster102 1 year ago
how are these different from banelings
chaos120 1 year ago
@chaos120
Lurkers are the Zerg units that evolved from Hydralisks. They only attack when underground.
Banelings are the Zerg units that evolved from Zerglings. They only attack once by suiciding.
Prices different , many other things.
WirbleWind5 1 year ago
HELL yeah! LURKER !!!
oODragonOo 2 years ago
Thats weird...........the beta doesnt have lurkers..
urmomandad 2 years ago 43
They took them out.
Kennethl00 1 year ago
this was first shown clipps of starcraft 2 later on in the development they problably decided to drop the lurkers : P as for many other units that were in the beta from the begining but now are out
jonoy52 1 year ago
they took them out of the beta, i don't know why but yeah.
bmfirchau 1 year ago
@urmomandad it's been removed just like firebat (now reapers)
stoneheart92 1 year ago
@urmomandad they were removed... i miss them :(
NecronRon 1 year ago 3
@urmomandad jup cutted out.
guess for expansion or never come back :((
R4Akai 1 year ago
@urmomandad u can use em in mod maps
TheNuiMaster 1 year ago
Was it*
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
And you guys.. Was if fcking worth it to start flaming to me? I just posted a fcking comment. Then you started this whole shit, you dont need to comment that I am stupid or anything like that.. JUST DONT FCKING CARE! Its not the whole word if I post a comment!!!! >:O
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
Just to know There is no Lurkeres in Beta Version! nad Guardians also! Strange!!!
Wjeko 2 years ago
guardians were replaced with brood lords
supahfly55 2 years ago
@Wjeko Brood Lord could do better than Guardian, but Luker, Dark Swarm and Plague are irreplaceable .
aclock2 2 years ago
same as before. only more awesome!
TheLBPMusic 2 years ago
Second I saw the Lurkers coming in... gg
SoloRazaSoldier13 2 years ago
theya re all equal
mUniChCDN 2 years ago
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Lol... In SC1 Terran is weak compared to the ohters :P In SC1 Zerg is the strongest... in SC2 it seems like protoss and Terran have become A LOT stronger and better o_O... So Idk who is better nao XD
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
I think you have it backwards...Zerg is the weakest...
t0r4g0wn4g3 2 years ago
Nah not really... Terran is actually the weakest... But yeah zerg is not the strongest... Idk why I said that xD The protoss are overpowered in sc1... In sc2 terran is overpowered... hmm if there is gonna be a sc3 I think zerg will be overpowered there XDDD
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
Terran weak in SC1??? Are u noob, right???
Not respond...
bequietoov 2 years ago
@bequietoov No I am not a noob, not even close to be a noob. If you would have any idea about starcraft then you should understand why I said they are weak. I don't really understand why people disagree with the truth but... what ever.
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
@SinjidOfFlash People disagree with the truth because it's your truth, not their truth. My truth is Terran without Siege Tank, nuke and battle cruiser could be fairly weak, but it's obviously never become the truth. Zerg is not strongest, I really love to see Zerg player moving their Luker and Zergling around the map trying to avoid Siege tank.
aclock2 2 years ago
@aclock2 lol its not only my truth, Its THE truth not MY. And people disagree..? just a couple (3-5) jerks who think they are smart? Lol..
SinjidOfFlash 2 years ago
@SinjidOfFlash words of a noob...
xiao5136 2 years ago
@xiao5136 words of a idiot + The REAL noob..
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