This is what I think.Saito tricked him into doing an impossible mission in which he goes back to limbo to see his dream kids. The kicker is after he spins the totem in the bathroom after waking up in Somalia while others we're asleep to see if he's dreaming he knocks it over because he's frightened by Saito. He's actually dreaming then but doesn't know it. The inception was to get him to go deeper into others dreams and fail the mission and be trapped in limbo. Saito knew this all along!
I think it adds another layer of emotion, because the audience may know someone or know something about skitzo in terms of the person not being able to distinguish reality from what's inside their mind, This deep sadness sets in that he might never see his kids again, that's only if you go with their interpretation.
you also have to remember the point of the totem is not determine whether or not you're in a dream, but rather whether you're in someone else's dream.
The fact that he doesn't care about the totem at the end either means he knows it's not his true totem (and figures he's in reality), or he doesn't care if he's in the real world or not, he is where he wants to be.
Meaning, if it's a dream, that makes him a total douche bag for not giving a damn about whether or not his kids will have parents.
For a video that makes a huge deal about spoilers they go into a lot of depth explaining the movie as if the audience hasn't seen it. I want to hear opinions on the ending, not be bombarded with plot points I am familiar with.
It's quite simple actually...the plane is reality and the ending is real. Why? One word: RING. Why again? Pretty simple. When Cobb is dreaming he dreams that he is still married to Mal and, therefore, he has a ring. In reality, Mal is dead and Cobb is not wearing a ring. Go back and watch all the scenes with Cobb and you will see. At the end he doesn't have a ring, meaning it's a reality. The ring was HIS actual totem the whole time.
if u watch closely the whole movie,u 'll see that Leo is in a limbo from the 1st scene.the dialog between Leo+Siato,has somedifferences with the other near the end ofthe movie.Except from that there other clues,such as the totem that shouldnt be Leo's,his kids in the end wear nearly the same clothes +didnt grow up.The whole story indicates that Leo needs a katharsis for his wife and kids.So he manufactures an inception for himself!He makes such a plot where he'll feel at the end a tranquility.
The idea of dreaming and inception is quite fascinating but I really can't wrap my head around how fat these chicks arms are...woah....lay off the sweets there porky pig hahahha
The idea of dreaming and inception is quite fascinating but I really can't wrap my head around how fat these chicks arms are...woah....lay off the sweets there porky pig hahahha
Nolan didnt know how to end the movie, so he didnt. Now everyones confused. Leo created all that bullcrap just for pure entertainment while he was stuck in purgatory for all we know
Nolan accomplished what he set out to do in the ending.He wants people to debate and analyse the whole idea of the dream within a dream. The ending is what YOU think it is. If the movie was tied off at the end then it would boring.To leave it loose gives the average movie goer a chance to enlighten their ideas on the film so that they can really THINK. I appreciate it as we are frequently barraged by unattractive or predictable plots that just tickles the senses. This film plays with your mind!
I think the end is a dream, because when Cobb tests out the drug and he wakes up and goes to the bathroom to wash his face, he spins the top, but it falls off and before he can spin it again Saito comes in, and cobb never spins the top until the end. So at least from that point on, IMO it's a dream.
look, i think the only way well ever know for sure what happens really happens at the end is if somebody puts a gun to chris nolans head and threaten to shoot him for answers, or you could just beleive me when i tell you that no its NOT a dream, its reality at the end, however,the top spinning at the end is for kicks and to leave people talking and wondering. it never shows the top fall to encourage the thought of what if, but neither are we able to determine if it keeps spinning.but it falls ok
the ending is meta. it's spinning to point out that none of what you've seen has been real - not because it's a dream, but because it's a movie.
think about it. the reviewer says 04:55 that the chase scene is terrifying "despite" it not being real. except that's true for any movie, they're never "real".
the audience is the sleeper. the movie is the ultimate layer. the totem keeps spinning, you realize what you're watching isn't real, and you "wake up" - the movie ends, you're back to reality.
In limbo you can't dream and there are no projections (as per Cobb and Mal's limbo world). So the ending can't be a dream within limbo and also can't be limbo itself because limbo would not have all those projections. Therefore, it's real.
The ending: It takes place in reality, not a dream. As per Chris Nolan...people misinterpret the end. The point is that he could never see his kids faces in a dream and would always spin the top to distinguish dream from reality. In the end, he can finally see his kids' faces. He then spins the top but walks away not caring if it topples or stays spinning.
Seriously, he didn't project the airport, his father and his kids faces... the ending is clear and the fact that the totem seems like it's about to fall proves that. Compare the totem spin in the end to previous scenes and you'll see the difference.
@Regal4point1 No, His totem is his ring, watch the movie again and think about it.. He doesn't wear his ring in reality, he wears his ring only in his dreams, and his wife's totem doesn't belong to him, once you touch somebody's totem, it loses what it makes it special, doesn't work anymore.
Theories can be argued over forever. But here's one thing you probably missed; buried deep within the complex dream narrative is the MORAL of the story. Cobb is represented as Fischer Sr. and Fischer Jr. is Cobb's kids. The Fischers' moment together is what Cobb wants; his children to see that he was a loving father and not a neglectful one. Fischer Jr.'s catharsis with his father is the peace Cobb was searching for.
to me the idea of the whole movie being in limbo doesn't make much sense. if he really is in limbo the whole time, he must have gotten into that state somehow and that story should be interessting enough to be worth telling (like the story told in the movie leading up to the ambiguous ending). in comparison to that, i dont see a point in telling a story that he is just dreaming up completely.
In terms of "what is this film about" I agree with @JusticeRetroHunter but then again I agree with the guy who believes the whole movie is in Limbo from the get go.
His clues stated from 9:06 are smart and backs his point. Another clue I found was remember when Leo spins his/Mal's totem and Saito interrupts him and the totem falls to the floor? We will never know if that scene is in reality or a dream as we never see the totem continuously spin (dream) or fall due to gravity (reality)
@theabsentreality even if the end scene is reality (and I'm not saying it is) is everything that came before reality, or was that all a dream? Ooooh :)
The tell tale sign he was dreaming is when he's running from the the "agents" in the commercial area and he goes down that very narrow ally. That ally starts to constrict him; it shrinks in as if it's trying to entrap him. If you follow the theory that because all of this is created from Dom's mind in Limbo, the suffocating fear of being caught by the agents and losing his freedom creeps into his brain and is projected out into the world he's creating. Thus the two buildings "enclose" on him.
a easy way to tell the hole movie is in layers of dreams. Remember when he seen his kids but couldnt see there face, that was a memory and at the end he see the same memory. So how can you see some in reality that already happened
Michael Cain the guy who played Cobb's father said in an interview that his character is never in the dream world and so when u seem him at the end that means it isn't a dream
Here is something to think about, if he was away from home for a while, then why were his kids the SAME EXACT age when he returns? Just something to think about
@MrKingSolution In the final scene, Phillipa is 5 and James is 3. In the beginning of the film, when Cobb is projecting them on the beach on the Limbo shore, Phillipa is 3 and James is 20 months. Two sets of child actors. Check IMDB and look at the child actors that played these characters for the proof. Even though they are two years older in the final scene, this doesn't mean Cobb is in reality. He could just be dreaming they are two years older.
Here is something to think about, if he was away from home for a while, then why were his kids the SAME EXACT age when he returns? Just something to think about
It looked to me like the top was about to fall and stop, but it didn't show it, leaving it open to interpretation. I enjoy thinking that they succeeded in the inception, and Cobb is reunited with his kids again, in real life. This gives me closure in the movie, and makes me feel like I know what's going on.
I think he is dreaming the whole time.... Remember he is not using his totem...his is using mals...one of the rules is that u can not use someone else's totem or u will lose touch on what is real and what is fake.
@mack2real The totem as someone else mentioned may have been his wedding ring. When he is in a dream the wedding ring is on, but when he is in reality he is not wearing a wedding ring. In the final scene there is no wedding ring. This may be wrong but it could very well be right.
leo still dreming in the end of the movie . in the last scene Children never changed , they are the same as they were when he was leaving , i mean they did not grow , they wear same clothes ....briliant movie i watched it 100 times :D
I think there is one critical flaw with the theory that Leo is in his own limbo throughout the story: Mal is still dead. If he was truly dreaming and creating his own reality she would be alive. However in the plane he realizes he has to move on so it is possible that after the plane ride he is still dreaming because everything still happens in his favor other than Mal still being dead, however he is at that time at peace with his wife's passing.
Here is my theory. Everything in the movie was a dream after the chemist sedated him in the chamber where all the people where sleeping. When he wakes up he goes into the bathroom and spins the totem but then Saito enters the bathroom and Leo snatches the totem from the sink. Right there we dont know whether or not he was still dreaming or not.
the whole thing is a dream?? haha amateurs.. if mal was right, and she killed herself and woke up, and leo was still asleep cuz he didn't jump, she would just go back down and try to get him again.. besides that, the ending, with the top spinning is simply illustrating that he is finally letting mal go, and able to forgive himself..
That after every thing he did he ended up in limbo and his wife mal was right and she killed her self and went back to the real kids. meaning that cobb couldve jumped and had the oppertunity to be with mal and the real kids but he didnt take the leap. if the top fell it would show that mal killed her self without right reasoning. basically in a nut shell he wanted to be with his kids no matter what
here is my theory . The top almost falls at the end . this is the directors plan to keep you imagining and wanting more . if the top fall at the end it would show he is not in the dream he is alive and Saito and every one is back from the dream and its layers.Form reading on here I agree with the opinion that Cobb didn't care where he was as long as he got to see his children's faces. But at the same time why would he test it with his totem. If the top kept spinning it would show continues par2
here is my theory saito is remembering what brought him to limbo because he has aged in his dream so the entire movie he is awake. He hires the corporation to send extractors after him and then he hires Leo. Then they start the inception. When saito spins the top he realizes he is in limbo he shoots Cobb and then himself and they wake up. The top wobbles at the end leaving the ending open for discussion. But if it was still a dream Cobb would be wearing the clothes he wore when he left.
In my opinion, the top was about to stop as it started wobbling already towards the very end of the movie. In either way, director has done a tremendous work by introducing duality to the movie which is fantastic.
The top falling doesn't prove that Cobb is not dreaming. He could easily construct a world where the top falls.
Arthur says that a totem can only tell you that you are not in someone else's dream. But since you know how the totem should behave, your totem can't tell you that you are not in your own dream.
It's impossible to tell whether the ending is reality or not. There's too many variables. Even if you answer one question, two more rise.
It's supposed to be that way because it makes the viewers think like Cobb - even if you know, you never really KNOW, so it doesn't matter. What he sees is real enough for him, and it's where he wants to be. Whether the top drops or not is unimportant to anything but curiosity.
@iisl33t Well, that kinda sounds like "well Jesus is real for me and that's that!" People who ignore evidence and facts and who want to cling to fantasies think like that. I love the movie, but in the end equating Cobb with irrationality isn't that great. But I guess that's how our brains are wired - a form of mental self defense for protecting a mental construct that is vital to our interpretation of the world. Threaten that construct and the defense sets in to make sure it stays intact.
i think they should leave it as it is. first off, there would be no point in a prequel because cobb already explains the whole back story about before his wife died and when they were "exploring" dif dream levels. plus, no point in a sequel either because it's obvious that it's not a dream 'cause the top WOBBLES at the end. in a dream, it would neverrrr wobble.
Now spend all the time you want, there is no right or wrong to the above statement. Same rules apply to this movie.The entire movie is a paradox. Here is another one:
"The Statement below is true."
"The Above Statement is false."
The entire movie is based on these types of paradoxes. The ending is not true, nor false. and you will never know. Paradox.
@JusticeRetroHunter Actually, I know it to be a reality. His daughter in his projections had a pink dress and black shoes. When he's back at his home in the end, his daughter had white shoes and white sleeves with her pink dress. Boom reality! Every projection he had of his son and daughter were the same. The ending they were dressed (somewhat) differently. Christopher Nolan had the idea of a very difficult ending to figure out. You need to pay attention to everything. Love your perspective tho.
Michael Cane (who played Cobb's father-in-law) explained his version - he never appeared in Cobb's dreams and only appeared in reality, therefore the fact he was with Cobb at the end shows Cobb is back in reality.
Of course you can go hyper-hypothetical on the entire movie and interpret a single camera-turn as one of Christopher's hidden symbolisms. The fact is Nolan made a philosophical/psychological for those who're not experts in the fields, and, the ensuing confusion
Sorry guantanamo is apparently IPad autocorrect for something I wrote - but I have no idea what the hell I wrote that iPad would auto correct to Guantanamo. Stupid iPad.
There is a good reason to think he is in limbo: you know that Guantanamo BWAAANG sound in Inception? Thats actually the movie's French song slowed down like a thousand times! As if it crossed layer upon layer of dream to reach Cobb to wake him up. Alternatively, Cobb maybe be in Saito's dream-trap. Consider that when Cobb wakes on the plane - he has no dream machines wires attached to him. What? They dissconnected him from Saito's limbo the instant he woke up? He's still in a dream. And never m
if there was an uprising of chimps like that.....we would shoot them? also where the fuck did we get that many apes in America there arnt swarms of apes like that even in fuckin Africa
his wifes totme is the spinner that cobb has but remember if you touch someones totem it loses something so cobb touched it so if he spins it doest shows reality or dream ----->THATS MY THEORY<-----
look cant remember who sayd it but he sayd to the girl in the team when they were sitting they were talking about totems and she asked him to show his totem but he declined and sayd that if you touch my totem I think it wont be good as a totem he wont show reality or dream I think and that cobbs totem is a ring whenever hes in a dream he has his ring on becouse in a dream hes still married when hes in reality he doeasnt have his ring becouse there hes divorced [[OTHER COMMENT-------------->>>>>
@MightyTabooTiki This "fat fuck" is the Editor-in-Chief of rottentomatoes. That's right, Rotten-fuckin-Tomatoes. So you think he doesn't know what he's talking about - you better shut the fuck up.
I really don't think it matters how it ends. Honestly, I think that this is one of those movies that is left open to interpretation. He might be awake, he might be dreaming, he might have never been awake, but it really doesn't metter, cause there is really no way to get everyone to agree unless the director just comes out and says "yeah, this is it". And I don't think he is going to do that any time soon, if at all. Everyone gets to walk away with a different idea of it, and that's great :)
i dont quite get Mats point, Caine said it because he knew Leo is a) always getting in dreams and b) is still being influenced by his dead wife (=fantasy)
and the old man in the back said it because Leo has already been to the limbo for a long time
so i think Mats proposal unconvicing, but i think it rather upon that he might still be in a dream especially because the ending comes so quickly and almost fantasticly with this weird music - but probably it is just the unrealness of normal reality
The kids in the final scene are different, taller and two years older. Nolan has explicitly said this and often refers to the two sets of child actors that were used in the film. There is the young 3 year old Phillipa (played by Claire Geare) and the 20 month old James (played by Christopher Nolan's son, Magnus Nolan; and then there was the 5 year old Phillipa (played by Taylor Geare) and the 3 year old James (played by Jonathan Geare). Check the cast listing on IMDB
Third is the angry look of the man to Dom Cobb in the black suit holding a paper next to the man also wearing a black suit holding a Paper that pertains to fishcer. Signs are in the ending pls watch carefully.( A PROJECTION PERHAPS OF MR.SAITO )
Someone giving an angry look in an airport doesn't prove that Cobb is in a dream state. And there's no projection of Saito. Cobb passes his fellow dream thieves, Saito and Fischer in the luggage area. Then, he hands his passport to the agent, and his wedding ring is not on, which visually indicates that he is in the "real world."
Watch the film carefully because I think that still Dom Cobb might still be in the Dream World (Mr.Saito's Dream to be Exact).
Here are some evidences that might support my theory:
First of all because we have not seen what had happened to the Totem(spinning top). Second Watch the part when Mr. Saito accidentally saw the totem of Dom Cobb when it fell down the floor and May have Projected it inside his own dream now being inhabited by Dom Cobb.
That Cobb is still in a dream state in the Final scene is not a well supported theory but it can be argued for to some degree. Cobb not finishing his attempted spin in the Yusuf's bathroom doesn't prove that Cobb is in some dream state for the remainder of the film. We are given the "ring on = in a dream" and "ring off = in the real world" visual over and over after the Mombasa scene. When Cobb hands his passport to the agent in the end, he is not wearing his ring.
Let me help. Both Robert Fischer and Ariadne are still receiving the sedative on the plane (they just can't kill theirselves - they would remain in Limbo), so they need a simultaneous double "Kick" to get back to layer 3 (Fischer needs the jolt by the Defibrillator in layer 3 and the "free fall" push off the ledge in Limbo to get back to layer 3; Ariadne uses her "free fall" jump in Limbo and the explosive collapse of the Snow Fortress to get back to layer 3). CONT.
Now, when Saito shoots Cobb and then himself in Limbo, the sedative is no longer being administered to them through the IV lines on the plane (it ran out). The team (inc. Fischer) has returned to the plane (after having spending a week in layer 1 until their countdown timers expired). The team leaves the IV's in Cobb and Saito so they can continue to share the dream in Cobb's limbo using the regular somnacin. So when Saito kills Cobb and himself, they return to the plane.
Also, remember, they set their countdown timers to around 9.5 hours on the plane (not 10), since there is still some time before they land when they return back (it was a 10 hour flight). Cobb and Saito remain in Limbo a bit longer even though the sedative stops after the 9.5 hours - because once in Limbo one can't escape through the countdown timer expiring or sedative stopping. They can only return by killing themselves when there is no more sedative involved.
I think he is still dreaming because in the end scene where you get to see the kids face, how come they didn't age at all they were wearing the same cloths and had the same hair cut.
In the last scene, when 5 year old Phillipa comes through the back door and hugs her father, notice that the horizonal stich around the dress is now about 12-15 inches from the bottom (as opposed to the 2-3 inch horizontal line from bottom when she was 3). And the bottom of the dress in that 12-15 inch area is completely different than the one she was wearing when she was 3. This dress at the end has vertical stich lines going around the dress and it flares and puffs out.
The children in the Final scene are different, taller and two years older. Nolan has explicitly said this and often refers to the two sets of child actors that were used in the film. There is the young 3 year old Phillipa (played by Claire Geare) and the 20 month old James (played by Christopher Nolan's son, Magnus Nolan; and then there was the 5 year old Phillipa (played by Taylor Geare) and the 3 year old James (played by Jonathan Geare). Check the cast listing on IMDB.
The thing that is great about this movie is the fact that the ending is intentionally vague. Christopher Nolan never intended to have a 'right' interpretation of the ending. Weather Cobb is dreaming or not is entirely up to the viewer's interpretation. Truely a unique movie experience.
Not entirely right here. Nolan has stated in interviews that in his mind there is a fact of the matter whether Cobb makes it back to the "real world." It's up to the viewer to figure it out. If one can't figure it out, of course it's up to personal interpretation - maybe Cobb makes it back; maybe he doesn't; or maybe it just doesn't matter as he walks away from the top. BUT, there is a fact of the matter - Cobb is either in reality or still in a dream state according to Nolan.
Also, Nolan has said in interviews that the viewer should be able to figure out if Cobb is in the "real world" in the final scene. There is a lot of visual evidence - especially the wedding ring theory - that supports the view that Cobb makes it back to the "real world." I, for one, believes that Nolan intends the audience to conclude that Cobb is in the "real world" at the end. However, it's possible to argue that Cobb is still dreaming - imagining his children 2 years older.
I first thought that the end was just a dream.Then i was thinking...Cobb said that the way you can find out if you're in a dream or not..is to remember how you got in to that place where you are now.Well it's pretty obvious how Cabb got home to his kids...it was not like when you suddenly apear into a place and you don't know how you got there.
But you know this whole ending leaves it up to the viewer to figure out.That's art.You can imagine your own ending.
It's neither reality nor a dream. It's written to be ambiguous, and this ambiguity is spelt out in the last scene! If it was meant to be one or the other, it wouldn't have been written to make sense under both conclusions. You can imagine the spinning top going on forever, or just as easily you can imagine it wobbling and toppling. I woulnd't argue that one or the other is true (even in the director's mind), rather that they are both possible, and the director intentionally leaves it open-ended.
Christopher Nolan has said in interviews that there is a fact of the matter (in his mind) as to whether Cobb is in the "real world" in the final scene. However, he does leave it up to the viewer to figure it out. IMO, given I think the Wedding Ring Theory is correct and and things Nolan has said in interviews and written in his book, I believe Cobb makes it back to the "real world." But, it's still logically possible that Cobb is dreaming in the final scene.
Also, again, the top wobbling and falling over in the final scene doesn't prove that Cobb is in the "real world" (even though I think he is). He could be unconsciously "willing" the top to fall for the first time. Both Mal and Cobb could "will" the projected top to keep spinning in a dream. It's logically possible that they could both "will" the projected top to topple over as well. And he could be imagining his children 2 years older playing in the same are in his back garden.
In Nolan's mind there is a fact of the matter whether Cobb makes it back to the "real world." And he leaves it up to the viewer to figure out. Many people will say, like yourself, that he leaves up to the imagination of the viewer - maybe he makes it back; maybe he is still in a dream state; or maybe he did or maybe he didn't but it just doesn't matter anyways as Cobb walks away from the top and doesn't care. BUT, again, there is a fact of the matter in Nolan's mind.
@snoopytroops The spinning top never wobbles in a dream state. But it does start to wobble in the end. But one thing that has made me think it migh ALL be a dream, is the fact we never get an actual technical explanation for how they enter the dreams. In the Matrix you had the needle go in the neck and a detailed explanation. Not here. They fall asleep and enter a dream - but how? But if it is all a dream, no such explanation is needed.
When Ariadne sneaks into Cobb's private dream in the Paris Workshop, Cobb's dream self brings Ariadne's dream self to his home and points out his children, Phillipa and James, playing in the garden. He tells Ariadne that he thinks about calling out to them to see their smiles but that he's out of time - and that the dream is always the same..when he's about call, they run. He then says "if I'm going to see their faces again, I've got to get back here in the real world." CONT
So, Assuming the final scene is the "real world," Cobb never sees his children turn around during any dream since leaving them. However, it's logically possible that Cobb could be dreaming in the final scene - he could be imagining that his children are 2 years older and in very similiar clothing and playing in the same area in his back garden. But if that's the case, why give the visual distinction throughout: "ring-on-dreaming" and "ring-off-in-reality?"
Did anyone watch this with the captions on? Deaf people must be laughing their assess off.
BlindBitsProductions 17 hours ago
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This is what I think.Saito tricked him into doing an impossible mission in which he goes back to limbo to see his dream kids. The kicker is after he spins the totem in the bathroom after waking up in Somalia while others we're asleep to see if he's dreaming he knocks it over because he's frightened by Saito. He's actually dreaming then but doesn't know it. The inception was to get him to go deeper into others dreams and fail the mission and be trapped in limbo. Saito knew this all along!
TheKoodude7 1 week ago
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TheKoodude7 1 week ago
Fred Astaire Royal Wedding dance scene mimiced in Inception's fight scene with Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Impressive.
JozieLeePro 2 weeks ago
I think it adds another layer of emotion, because the audience may know someone or know something about skitzo in terms of the person not being able to distinguish reality from what's inside their mind, This deep sadness sets in that he might never see his kids again, that's only if you go with their interpretation.
201stars 2 weeks ago
you also have to remember the point of the totem is not determine whether or not you're in a dream, but rather whether you're in someone else's dream.
201stars 2 weeks ago
The fact that he doesn't care about the totem at the end either means he knows it's not his true totem (and figures he's in reality), or he doesn't care if he's in the real world or not, he is where he wants to be.
Meaning, if it's a dream, that makes him a total douche bag for not giving a damn about whether or not his kids will have parents.
zomfgniko 1 month ago
i understand the whole movie by just watching it once.. it's called paying attention
20jandrews 1 month ago
This video annoys me.
For a video that makes a huge deal about spoilers they go into a lot of depth explaining the movie as if the audience hasn't seen it. I want to hear opinions on the ending, not be bombarded with plot points I am familiar with.
DarkFusi0n 1 month ago
17:18 remember u cant always remember wat u dreamt no matter how hard u try, maybe he forgot their faces
ballwizard6 1 month ago
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It's quite simple actually...the plane is reality and the ending is real. Why? One word: RING. Why again? Pretty simple. When Cobb is dreaming he dreams that he is still married to Mal and, therefore, he has a ring. In reality, Mal is dead and Cobb is not wearing a ring. Go back and watch all the scenes with Cobb and you will see. At the end he doesn't have a ring, meaning it's a reality. The ring was HIS actual totem the whole time.
MrNox1ous 1 month ago
if u watch closely the whole movie,u 'll see that Leo is in a limbo from the 1st scene.the dialog between Leo+Siato,has somedifferences with the other near the end ofthe movie.Except from that there other clues,such as the totem that shouldnt be Leo's,his kids in the end wear nearly the same clothes +didnt grow up.The whole story indicates that Leo needs a katharsis for his wife and kids.So he manufactures an inception for himself!He makes such a plot where he'll feel at the end a tranquility.
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The idea of dreaming and inception is quite fascinating but I really can't wrap my head around how fat these chicks arms are...woah....lay off the sweets there porky pig hahahha
FistingSweetness 2 months ago
The idea of dreaming and inception is quite fascinating but I really can't wrap my head around how fat these chicks arms are...woah....lay off the sweets there porky pig hahahha
FistingSweetness 2 months ago
Nolan didnt know how to end the movie, so he didnt. Now everyones confused. Leo created all that bullcrap just for pure entertainment while he was stuck in purgatory for all we know
xtremefelipe 2 months ago
@xtremefelipe a generic ending would have been leo going home to his kids. it's supposed to be a mindfuck its not lazy writing
Madorem 2 months ago
@Madorem generic.... unless his kids were 80 years old oooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!
Tizzley 2 days ago
the real implication of the spinning top at the end is an alternate reality.....
lincompoop 2 months ago
fix your fucking audio
CenkIsAdorable 2 months ago
Nolan accomplished what he set out to do in the ending.He wants people to debate and analyse the whole idea of the dream within a dream. The ending is what YOU think it is. If the movie was tied off at the end then it would boring.To leave it loose gives the average movie goer a chance to enlighten their ideas on the film so that they can really THINK. I appreciate it as we are frequently barraged by unattractive or predictable plots that just tickles the senses. This film plays with your mind!
anthonyday24 2 months ago
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anthonyday24 2 months ago
It left him cold? What a douchebag.
limicalrock25 2 months ago
@limicalrock25 i agree with you i thought them two spending all that time in limbo together,the whole Mal plot was very emotional
Sinner1ner 2 months ago
It's not a dream... You don't know how you got somewhere when you're in a dream and Cobb clearly knows he came from the airport etc.
OfficialHopHip 2 months ago
I think the end is a dream, because when Cobb tests out the drug and he wakes up and goes to the bathroom to wash his face, he spins the top, but it falls off and before he can spin it again Saito comes in, and cobb never spins the top until the end. So at least from that point on, IMO it's a dream.
8comicbookman8 3 months ago
look, i think the only way well ever know for sure what happens really happens at the end is if somebody puts a gun to chris nolans head and threaten to shoot him for answers, or you could just beleive me when i tell you that no its NOT a dream, its reality at the end, however,the top spinning at the end is for kicks and to leave people talking and wondering. it never shows the top fall to encourage the thought of what if, but neither are we able to determine if it keeps spinning.but it falls ok
ghostplanes7 3 months ago
Dom, Robert, Eames, Arthur/Ariadne, Mal, Sato - DREAMS... oh dear. I think we're going to need more sedative.
andyhmltn 3 months ago
the ending is meta. it's spinning to point out that none of what you've seen has been real - not because it's a dream, but because it's a movie.
think about it. the reviewer says 04:55 that the chase scene is terrifying "despite" it not being real. except that's true for any movie, they're never "real".
the audience is the sleeper. the movie is the ultimate layer. the totem keeps spinning, you realize what you're watching isn't real, and you "wake up" - the movie ends, you're back to reality.
purrot 3 months ago
@purrot I have never heard that theory, but that is actually a really good point. It's Nolan's commentary on our pop culture driven society.
COMMANDRofAWESUM 3 months ago
The totem is his wedding ring.
TheJamesisHungry 3 months ago
so he didnt wake up, he just stayed in limbo..
sharky0922 3 months ago
In limbo you can't dream and there are no projections (as per Cobb and Mal's limbo world). So the ending can't be a dream within limbo and also can't be limbo itself because limbo would not have all those projections. Therefore, it's real.
Nanners17 3 months ago
The ending: It takes place in reality, not a dream. As per Chris Nolan...people misinterpret the end. The point is that he could never see his kids faces in a dream and would always spin the top to distinguish dream from reality. In the end, he can finally see his kids' faces. He then spins the top but walks away not caring if it topples or stays spinning.
lsu70510 3 months ago
@lsu70510 youre stupid, its a dream, he didnt wake up moron beacuse this shit is spinning..but he dosent care anymore
sharky0922 3 months ago
HE REALLY DOES.
RightTriggerGames 3 months ago
DARWIN LOVES YOU.
RightTriggerGames 3 months ago
@RightTriggerGames I know, I had to say it outloud too when I first saw it.
shizueleven 3 months ago
what happen to young turks, wtf?!
AvEryBadApPLe 4 months ago
inception = divide by zero
majafaja999 4 months ago 9
@majafaja999 Which equals 1 lol
JamieSandhu 3 months ago
Seriously, he didn't project the airport, his father and his kids faces... the ending is clear and the fact that the totem seems like it's about to fall proves that. Compare the totem spin in the end to previous scenes and you'll see the difference.
Liorry 4 months ago
i think this is what hollywood is doing ever since.. ever had the feeling that u went through something and then someone sings about it? ^^
Markurn 4 months ago
Guys In the end the Kids wearing the same clothes as he dreamed about them.........
tonix1993 4 months ago
No I think his totem is his kids faces. Just think about it.
Regal4point1 5 months ago 40
@Regal4point1 No, His totem is his ring, watch the movie again and think about it.. He doesn't wear his ring in reality, he wears his ring only in his dreams, and his wife's totem doesn't belong to him, once you touch somebody's totem, it loses what it makes it special, doesn't work anymore.
necroshadow93 2 months ago 2
@Regal4point1 yeah i agree with you do you know why because the spinning thing was his wife totem
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Psychatron 5 months ago
Theories can be argued over forever. But here's one thing you probably missed; buried deep within the complex dream narrative is the MORAL of the story. Cobb is represented as Fischer Sr. and Fischer Jr. is Cobb's kids. The Fischers' moment together is what Cobb wants; his children to see that he was a loving father and not a neglectful one. Fischer Jr.'s catharsis with his father is the peace Cobb was searching for.
silverlabrynth 5 months ago
who's leonardo dicaprio?
gerballack 5 months ago
to me the idea of the whole movie being in limbo doesn't make much sense. if he really is in limbo the whole time, he must have gotten into that state somehow and that story should be interessting enough to be worth telling (like the story told in the movie leading up to the ambiguous ending). in comparison to that, i dont see a point in telling a story that he is just dreaming up completely.
xxxjczxxx 5 months ago
In terms of "what is this film about" I agree with @JusticeRetroHunter but then again I agree with the guy who believes the whole movie is in Limbo from the get go.
His clues stated from 9:06 are smart and backs his point. Another clue I found was remember when Leo spins his/Mal's totem and Saito interrupts him and the totem falls to the floor? We will never know if that scene is in reality or a dream as we never see the totem continuously spin (dream) or fall due to gravity (reality)
RLPublications 5 months ago
@theabsentreality even if the end scene is reality (and I'm not saying it is) is everything that came before reality, or was that all a dream? Ooooh :)
TheDanieljames808 5 months ago
What I look like when I think about inception 8:00
341Lovie 5 months ago 3
How do you guys say to a Cake of Pancakes?
Incakesion !
Kadishona 6 months ago
The tell tale sign he was dreaming is when he's running from the the "agents" in the commercial area and he goes down that very narrow ally. That ally starts to constrict him; it shrinks in as if it's trying to entrap him. If you follow the theory that because all of this is created from Dom's mind in Limbo, the suffocating fear of being caught by the agents and losing his freedom creeps into his brain and is projected out into the world he's creating. Thus the two buildings "enclose" on him.
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It was reality. And I can prove it (in my own theory of course ;)
How did Maul and Domm get out of limbo? They killed themselves...
So how did Saito and Domm get out of the dream? Saito passed Cobb a gun remember... and then he woke up?
This is most likely so Nolan can still keep the ending for the watcher to interpret!
Does this make sense to anyone else?
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AshRNand 6 months ago
The ending of Titanic leads into the beginning of Inception. A movie within a movie. We need to go deeper.
pieterse22 6 months ago 97
@pieterse22 LOL My thoughts exactly.
clairbel224 4 months ago
The deathproof car chase is so fucking overrated.
zaggers77 6 months ago
He sees his childrens faces at the end, and they are older than when they were in limbo.
His mind would be unable to fabricate age and that proves he is in reality at the end
vloglab1 6 months ago
In my opinion, all movie was a dream.
mytubenik 6 months ago
a easy way to tell the hole movie is in layers of dreams. Remember when he seen his kids but couldnt see there face, that was a memory and at the end he see the same memory. So how can you see some in reality that already happened
FaceVersus 6 months ago
Michael Cain the guy who played Cobb's father said in an interview that his character is never in the dream world and so when u seem him at the end that means it isn't a dream
TacticsnGameplay 6 months ago
Here is something to think about, if he was away from home for a while, then why were his kids the SAME EXACT age when he returns? Just something to think about
MrKingSolution 6 months ago
@MrKingSolution In the final scene, Phillipa is 5 and James is 3. In the beginning of the film, when Cobb is projecting them on the beach on the Limbo shore, Phillipa is 3 and James is 20 months. Two sets of child actors. Check IMDB and look at the child actors that played these characters for the proof. Even though they are two years older in the final scene, this doesn't mean Cobb is in reality. He could just be dreaming they are two years older.
CobbisinReality1 6 months ago
@CobbisinReality1 His mind would not be able to do this, he could not see his children's faces when he was dreaming about them.
The reason he does not look at the spinner is because he sees his children's faces and they are older - he is in the real world
RandomChannelCheese 6 months ago
Here is something to think about, if he was away from home for a while, then why were his kids the SAME EXACT age when he returns? Just something to think about
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I understood it the first time I saw it. But I was told in advance to pay attention.
TheAbsentreality 7 months ago
Either way you want to understand! It's a real paradox!
Remember "Limbo", the world we can create nor we can b trapped forever. Only you can kill yourself to wake up.
cubimongoloid 7 months ago
The rules of the dream world are much like the rules of the matrix. Some of them can be bent. Others can be broken.
TheSonicGod 7 months ago
Inception 2: Dreaming about Inception
The movie is about a dream inside a dream which has a HDTV inside showing the first Inception. Confusing eh?
IJustOwnz 7 months ago
fuck you and your ET, world is changing , no cheering people are assholes. move on
Xazard 7 months ago
This is like the new Blade Runner
colinmcom14 7 months ago
he is not dreaming b/c of the ring he's not wearing, and b/c the people in the dreams/projections dont talk except his wife.
gduel1 7 months ago
It looked to me like the top was about to fall and stop, but it didn't show it, leaving it open to interpretation. I enjoy thinking that they succeeded in the inception, and Cobb is reunited with his kids again, in real life. This gives me closure in the movie, and makes me feel like I know what's going on.
enerjon777 7 months ago
his kids faces are his token duh
superseth39 7 months ago
I think he is dreaming the whole time.... Remember he is not using his totem...his is using mals...one of the rules is that u can not use someone else's totem or u will lose touch on what is real and what is fake.
mack2real 7 months ago
@mack2real The totem as someone else mentioned may have been his wedding ring. When he is in a dream the wedding ring is on, but when he is in reality he is not wearing a wedding ring. In the final scene there is no wedding ring. This may be wrong but it could very well be right.
spanisheman 7 months ago
@spanisheman Well the ending is a paradox....so it can be either
mack2real 7 months ago
leo still dreming in the end of the movie . in the last scene Children never changed , they are the same as they were when he was leaving , i mean they did not grow , they wear same clothes ....briliant movie i watched it 100 times :D
newspapguy 7 months ago
personally i think he isn't dreaming, when he dreams he is unable to see his childrens faces, also when he is dreaming he is wearing his ring.
nuttynicky390 7 months ago
I think there is one critical flaw with the theory that Leo is in his own limbo throughout the story: Mal is still dead. If he was truly dreaming and creating his own reality she would be alive. However in the plane he realizes he has to move on so it is possible that after the plane ride he is still dreaming because everything still happens in his favor other than Mal still being dead, however he is at that time at peace with his wife's passing.
Exstosator 7 months ago
darwin loves you?? whhats the message below
raoulhery 7 months ago
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Here is my theory. Everything in the movie was a dream after the chemist sedated him in the chamber where all the people where sleeping. When he wakes up he goes into the bathroom and spins the totem but then Saito enters the bathroom and Leo snatches the totem from the sink. Right there we dont know whether or not he was still dreaming or not.
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youneekk 7 months ago
the whole thing is a dream?? haha amateurs.. if mal was right, and she killed herself and woke up, and leo was still asleep cuz he didn't jump, she would just go back down and try to get him again.. besides that, the ending, with the top spinning is simply illustrating that he is finally letting mal go, and able to forgive himself..
Numbur5 7 months ago
mabey mal was his totem
supersmashservers 7 months ago
mind fucked
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jamestargetedindiv 7 months ago
par 2 .
That after every thing he did he ended up in limbo and his wife mal was right and she killed her self and went back to the real kids. meaning that cobb couldve jumped and had the oppertunity to be with mal and the real kids but he didnt take the leap. if the top fell it would show that mal killed her self without right reasoning. basically in a nut shell he wanted to be with his kids no matter what
skateboard4life101 7 months ago
here is my theory . The top almost falls at the end . this is the directors plan to keep you imagining and wanting more . if the top fall at the end it would show he is not in the dream he is alive and Saito and every one is back from the dream and its layers.Form reading on here I agree with the opinion that Cobb didn't care where he was as long as he got to see his children's faces. But at the same time why would he test it with his totem. If the top kept spinning it would show continues par2
skateboard4life101 7 months ago
here is my theory saito is remembering what brought him to limbo because he has aged in his dream so the entire movie he is awake. He hires the corporation to send extractors after him and then he hires Leo. Then they start the inception. When saito spins the top he realizes he is in limbo he shoots Cobb and then himself and they wake up. The top wobbles at the end leaving the ending open for discussion. But if it was still a dream Cobb would be wearing the clothes he wore when he left.
MrBassem95 8 months ago
In my opinion, the top was about to stop as it started wobbling already towards the very end of the movie. In either way, director has done a tremendous work by introducing duality to the movie which is fantastic.
emin777 8 months ago
I would kill to see what Lynch would do with this universe.
tazer95 8 months ago
These people are fucking idiots. The whole movie is "limbo?" NO!
And the guy in the opium den wasn't talking directly to Cobb, he was talking to Eames.
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The top falling doesn't prove that Cobb is not dreaming. He could easily construct a world where the top falls.
Arthur says that a totem can only tell you that you are not in someone else's dream. But since you know how the totem should behave, your totem can't tell you that you are not in your own dream.
CobbisinReality1 8 months ago
It doesn't matter if it's a dream or not; Cobb is happy. I doubt Nolan ever decided whether it was reality or a dream.
ChrisHartig44 8 months ago
It's impossible to tell whether the ending is reality or not. There's too many variables. Even if you answer one question, two more rise.
It's supposed to be that way because it makes the viewers think like Cobb - even if you know, you never really KNOW, so it doesn't matter. What he sees is real enough for him, and it's where he wants to be. Whether the top drops or not is unimportant to anything but curiosity.
iisl33t 8 months ago
@iisl33t Well, that kinda sounds like "well Jesus is real for me and that's that!" People who ignore evidence and facts and who want to cling to fantasies think like that. I love the movie, but in the end equating Cobb with irrationality isn't that great. But I guess that's how our brains are wired - a form of mental self defense for protecting a mental construct that is vital to our interpretation of the world. Threaten that construct and the defense sets in to make sure it stays intact.
seraph101 8 months ago
i think they should leave it as it is. first off, there would be no point in a prequel because cobb already explains the whole back story about before his wife died and when they were "exploring" dif dream levels. plus, no point in a sequel either because it's obvious that it's not a dream 'cause the top WOBBLES at the end. in a dream, it would neverrrr wobble.
maddiieeftw 8 months ago
They should make a prequel.. not a sequel.
MichaelUrbina 8 months ago
I completely forgot why he can't see his kids.
8ballsix27 8 months ago
i think you guys missed the point.
Remember when Arthur talks about Paradoxes?
Here is a nice Paradox for you :
"This Statement is False"
Now spend all the time you want, there is no right or wrong to the above statement. Same rules apply to this movie.The entire movie is a paradox. Here is another one:
"The Statement below is true."
"The Above Statement is false."
The entire movie is based on these types of paradoxes. The ending is not true, nor false. and you will never know. Paradox.
JusticeRetroHunter 8 months ago 37
@JusticeRetroHunter u just captured life in a youtube comment
saintsFlow 7 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter That statement is true, but not provable within the system of conversational logic. Read up on your godel and/or hofstadter.
maf5693 7 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter Actually, I know it to be a reality. His daughter in his projections had a pink dress and black shoes. When he's back at his home in the end, his daughter had white shoes and white sleeves with her pink dress. Boom reality! Every projection he had of his son and daughter were the same. The ending they were dressed (somewhat) differently. Christopher Nolan had the idea of a very difficult ending to figure out. You need to pay attention to everything. Love your perspective tho.
TheAbsentreality 7 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter no, no you can know, you just need to go deep enough
nfsmohpsp 7 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter Actually it was revealed that the ending wasnt a dream. ;)
flareblitz007 6 months ago
@flareblitz007 i didn't say anywhere in my statement that it was or was not a dream.
JusticeRetroHunter 6 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter or you could've just said Ponocchio said that "his nose will now grow"
bigb771 5 months ago
@JusticeRetroHunter
Michael Cane (who played Cobb's father-in-law) explained his version - he never appeared in Cobb's dreams and only appeared in reality, therefore the fact he was with Cobb at the end shows Cobb is back in reality.
Of course you can go hyper-hypothetical on the entire movie and interpret a single camera-turn as one of Christopher's hidden symbolisms. The fact is Nolan made a philosophical/psychological for those who're not experts in the fields, and, the ensuing confusion
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JusticeRetroHunter 8 months ago
People did that with Sucker Punch too, just an FYI. And still are on the internet.
xLiLxxBitx 8 months ago
stupid people
fat idiot
biggest idiot i have ever seen
xxxpimp11 8 months ago
The spinner was not Cobbs totem. His ring was his totem. The spinner was Mal's totem.
If your the only one who should see your totem why would he show the spinner Ariadne
ElbertoSanchezlollol 8 months ago
@ElbertoSanchezlollol duuuuuuuuumb, the top is different it just spins forever in a dream, why does it matter who uses it
gustovo134 8 months ago
Reasons why the ending is NOT a dream:
1. The top wobbles at the end, meaning it's not a dream
2. Cobb's wedding ring, which is his real totem, is gone in the last scene (in all the dream sequences, he has it on) meaning it's real
3. Saito's young (if it were still a dream he'd be old)
Reasons why the ending IS a dream:
1. Michael Caine saying "Come back to reality"
2. creepy black guy (and i'm not being racist) saying "Who are you to say otherwise?"
I personally think it's NOT a dream.
moviereviewteen123 8 months ago
Sorry guantanamo is apparently IPad autocorrect for something I wrote - but I have no idea what the hell I wrote that iPad would auto correct to Guantanamo. Stupid iPad.
SxbYT 8 months ago
There is a good reason to think he is in limbo: you know that Guantanamo BWAAANG sound in Inception? Thats actually the movie's French song slowed down like a thousand times! As if it crossed layer upon layer of dream to reach Cobb to wake him up. Alternatively, Cobb maybe be in Saito's dream-trap. Consider that when Cobb wakes on the plane - he has no dream machines wires attached to him. What? They dissconnected him from Saito's limbo the instant he woke up? He's still in a dream. And never m
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jamestargetedindiv 8 months ago
if there was an uprising of chimps like that.....we would shoot them? also where the fuck did we get that many apes in America there arnt swarms of apes like that even in fuckin Africa
NemanorTheAlmighty 8 months ago
the right person to talk about this is Christopher Nolan..
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QueeniePheny 9 months ago
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his wifes totme is the spinner that cobb has but remember if you touch someones totem it loses something so cobb touched it so if he spins it doest shows reality or dream ----->THATS MY THEORY<-----
zigzagas1000 9 months ago
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look cant remember who sayd it but he sayd to the girl in the team when they were sitting they were talking about totems and she asked him to show his totem but he declined and sayd that if you touch my totem I think it wont be good as a totem he wont show reality or dream I think and that cobbs totem is a ring whenever hes in a dream he has his ring on becouse in a dream hes still married when hes in reality he doeasnt have his ring becouse there hes divorced [[OTHER COMMENT-------------->>>>>
zigzagas1000 9 months ago
This fat fuck doesn't know what he's talking about...eat another donut and die :)
MightyTabooTiki 9 months ago 2
@MightyTabooTiki This "fat fuck" is the Editor-in-Chief of rottentomatoes. That's right, Rotten-fuckin-Tomatoes. So you think he doesn't know what he's talking about - you better shut the fuck up.
Daishi001 9 months ago
@Daishi001 Still a fat fuck, I don't care if he owns iMDB, still doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Go fuck off you pussy :)
MightyTabooTiki 9 months ago
Way to ruin the ending of ET.. bitch.
paddybond 9 months ago
Can anyone tell me who the Old man is?
elhae2 9 months ago
@elhae2 Editor-in-Chief of RottenTomatoes
Daishi001 9 months ago
I really don't think it matters how it ends. Honestly, I think that this is one of those movies that is left open to interpretation. He might be awake, he might be dreaming, he might have never been awake, but it really doesn't metter, cause there is really no way to get everyone to agree unless the director just comes out and says "yeah, this is it". And I don't think he is going to do that any time soon, if at all. Everyone gets to walk away with a different idea of it, and that's great :)
ubertekee 9 months ago
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Mastersteef123 9 months ago 2
i dont quite get Mats point, Caine said it because he knew Leo is a) always getting in dreams and b) is still being influenced by his dead wife (=fantasy)
and the old man in the back said it because Leo has already been to the limbo for a long time
so i think Mats proposal unconvicing, but i think it rather upon that he might still be in a dream especially because the ending comes so quickly and almost fantasticly with this weird music - but probably it is just the unrealness of normal reality
wildhias 10 months ago
they should make a prequel. Sequel will kill it
BloodStone20 10 months ago
The kids look the same...thats all you need to know...His still DREAMING
Noodles2SSAB 10 months ago
@Noodles2SSAB
The kids in the final scene are different, taller and two years older. Nolan has explicitly said this and often refers to the two sets of child actors that were used in the film. There is the young 3 year old Phillipa (played by Claire Geare) and the 20 month old James (played by Christopher Nolan's son, Magnus Nolan; and then there was the 5 year old Phillipa (played by Taylor Geare) and the 3 year old James (played by Jonathan Geare). Check the cast listing on IMDB
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
Third is the angry look of the man to Dom Cobb in the black suit holding a paper next to the man also wearing a black suit holding a Paper that pertains to fishcer. Signs are in the ending pls watch carefully.( A PROJECTION PERHAPS OF MR.SAITO )
washburnguitaryellow 10 months ago
@washburnguitaryellow
Someone giving an angry look in an airport doesn't prove that Cobb is in a dream state. And there's no projection of Saito. Cobb passes his fellow dream thieves, Saito and Fischer in the luggage area. Then, he hands his passport to the agent, and his wedding ring is not on, which visually indicates that he is in the "real world."
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
Watch the film carefully because I think that still Dom Cobb might still be in the Dream World (Mr.Saito's Dream to be Exact).
Here are some evidences that might support my theory:
First of all because we have not seen what had happened to the Totem(spinning top). Second Watch the part when Mr. Saito accidentally saw the totem of Dom Cobb when it fell down the floor and May have Projected it inside his own dream now being inhabited by Dom Cobb.
washburnguitaryellow 10 months ago
@washburnguitaryellow
That Cobb is still in a dream state in the Final scene is not a well supported theory but it can be argued for to some degree. Cobb not finishing his attempted spin in the Yusuf's bathroom doesn't prove that Cobb is in some dream state for the remainder of the film. We are given the "ring on = in a dream" and "ring off = in the real world" visual over and over after the Mombasa scene. When Cobb hands his passport to the agent in the end, he is not wearing his ring.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
One Question: Why did Ariadne and Michael Fischer needed a "KICK" to get out of the limbo state?
That brings out one fact : (IN THE LIMBO STATE A PERSON NEEDS A KICK TO GET OUT !!!!)
BUT THE END OF THE FILM CONTRADICTS THIS IDEA...
FOR Dom Cobb AND Mr. Saito JUST NEEDED A BULLET DIG UP IN THEIR HEADS TO WAKE UP FROM THE LIMBO STATE...
washburnguitaryellow 10 months ago
@washburnguitaryellow
Let me help. Both Robert Fischer and Ariadne are still receiving the sedative on the plane (they just can't kill theirselves - they would remain in Limbo), so they need a simultaneous double "Kick" to get back to layer 3 (Fischer needs the jolt by the Defibrillator in layer 3 and the "free fall" push off the ledge in Limbo to get back to layer 3; Ariadne uses her "free fall" jump in Limbo and the explosive collapse of the Snow Fortress to get back to layer 3). CONT.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@washburnguitaryellow
Now, when Saito shoots Cobb and then himself in Limbo, the sedative is no longer being administered to them through the IV lines on the plane (it ran out). The team (inc. Fischer) has returned to the plane (after having spending a week in layer 1 until their countdown timers expired). The team leaves the IV's in Cobb and Saito so they can continue to share the dream in Cobb's limbo using the regular somnacin. So when Saito kills Cobb and himself, they return to the plane.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@washburnguitaryellow
Also, remember, they set their countdown timers to around 9.5 hours on the plane (not 10), since there is still some time before they land when they return back (it was a 10 hour flight). Cobb and Saito remain in Limbo a bit longer even though the sedative stops after the 9.5 hours - because once in Limbo one can't escape through the countdown timer expiring or sedative stopping. They can only return by killing themselves when there is no more sedative involved.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago 24
@CobbisinReality1 SO HE CAN ESCAPE!!
12345678900emiry 8 months ago
I think he is still dreaming because in the end scene where you get to see the kids face, how come they didn't age at all they were wearing the same cloths and had the same hair cut.
rumbledamage 10 months ago
@rumbledamage
In the last scene, when 5 year old Phillipa comes through the back door and hugs her father, notice that the horizonal stich around the dress is now about 12-15 inches from the bottom (as opposed to the 2-3 inch horizontal line from bottom when she was 3). And the bottom of the dress in that 12-15 inch area is completely different than the one she was wearing when she was 3. This dress at the end has vertical stich lines going around the dress and it flares and puffs out.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@rumbledamage
The children in the Final scene are different, taller and two years older. Nolan has explicitly said this and often refers to the two sets of child actors that were used in the film. There is the young 3 year old Phillipa (played by Claire Geare) and the 20 month old James (played by Christopher Nolan's son, Magnus Nolan; and then there was the 5 year old Phillipa (played by Taylor Geare) and the 3 year old James (played by Jonathan Geare). Check the cast listing on IMDB.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
The thing that is great about this movie is the fact that the ending is intentionally vague. Christopher Nolan never intended to have a 'right' interpretation of the ending. Weather Cobb is dreaming or not is entirely up to the viewer's interpretation. Truely a unique movie experience.
webcrawler2007 10 months ago
@webcrawler2007
Not entirely right here. Nolan has stated in interviews that in his mind there is a fact of the matter whether Cobb makes it back to the "real world." It's up to the viewer to figure it out. If one can't figure it out, of course it's up to personal interpretation - maybe Cobb makes it back; maybe he doesn't; or maybe it just doesn't matter as he walks away from the top. BUT, there is a fact of the matter - Cobb is either in reality or still in a dream state according to Nolan.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@webcrawler2007
Also, Nolan has said in interviews that the viewer should be able to figure out if Cobb is in the "real world" in the final scene. There is a lot of visual evidence - especially the wedding ring theory - that supports the view that Cobb makes it back to the "real world." I, for one, believes that Nolan intends the audience to conclude that Cobb is in the "real world" at the end. However, it's possible to argue that Cobb is still dreaming - imagining his children 2 years older.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
I first thought that the end was just a dream.Then i was thinking...Cobb said that the way you can find out if you're in a dream or not..is to remember how you got in to that place where you are now.Well it's pretty obvious how Cabb got home to his kids...it was not like when you suddenly apear into a place and you don't know how you got there.
But you know this whole ending leaves it up to the viewer to figure out.That's art.You can imagine your own ending.
ale15andra 10 months ago
It's neither reality nor a dream. It's written to be ambiguous, and this ambiguity is spelt out in the last scene! If it was meant to be one or the other, it wouldn't have been written to make sense under both conclusions. You can imagine the spinning top going on forever, or just as easily you can imagine it wobbling and toppling. I woulnd't argue that one or the other is true (even in the director's mind), rather that they are both possible, and the director intentionally leaves it open-ended.
snoopytroops 10 months ago 29
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Christopher Nolan has said in interviews that there is a fact of the matter (in his mind) as to whether Cobb is in the "real world" in the final scene. However, he does leave it up to the viewer to figure it out. IMO, given I think the Wedding Ring Theory is correct and and things Nolan has said in interviews and written in his book, I believe Cobb makes it back to the "real world." But, it's still logically possible that Cobb is dreaming in the final scene.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@snoopytroops
Also, again, the top wobbling and falling over in the final scene doesn't prove that Cobb is in the "real world" (even though I think he is). He could be unconsciously "willing" the top to fall for the first time. Both Mal and Cobb could "will" the projected top to keep spinning in a dream. It's logically possible that they could both "will" the projected top to topple over as well. And he could be imagining his children 2 years older playing in the same are in his back garden.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@snoopytroops
In Nolan's mind there is a fact of the matter whether Cobb makes it back to the "real world." And he leaves it up to the viewer to figure out. Many people will say, like yourself, that he leaves up to the imagination of the viewer - maybe he makes it back; maybe he is still in a dream state; or maybe he did or maybe he didn't but it just doesn't matter anyways as Cobb walks away from the top and doesn't care. BUT, again, there is a fact of the matter in Nolan's mind.
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@snoopytroops exactly so well said
buta7lwa 8 months ago
@snoopytroops Plus, its a win-win situation for Cobb
METALkaiser27 8 months ago
@snoopytroops The spinning top never wobbles in a dream state. But it does start to wobble in the end. But one thing that has made me think it migh ALL be a dream, is the fact we never get an actual technical explanation for how they enter the dreams. In the Matrix you had the needle go in the neck and a detailed explanation. Not here. They fall asleep and enter a dream - but how? But if it is all a dream, no such explanation is needed.
seraph101 8 months ago
In the movie didn't Cobb say something about his kids faces, how in his dream they never turn around? But they did. Not to mention the totems.
When you begin to think about the details of the film you like it so much more.
luanluan2006 10 months ago
@luanluan2006
When Ariadne sneaks into Cobb's private dream in the Paris Workshop, Cobb's dream self brings Ariadne's dream self to his home and points out his children, Phillipa and James, playing in the garden. He tells Ariadne that he thinks about calling out to them to see their smiles but that he's out of time - and that the dream is always the same..when he's about call, they run. He then says "if I'm going to see their faces again, I've got to get back here in the real world." CONT
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
@luanluan2006
So, Assuming the final scene is the "real world," Cobb never sees his children turn around during any dream since leaving them. However, it's logically possible that Cobb could be dreaming in the final scene - he could be imagining that his children are 2 years older and in very similiar clothing and playing in the same area in his back garden. But if that's the case, why give the visual distinction throughout: "ring-on-dreaming" and "ring-off-in-reality?"
CobbisinReality1 10 months ago
1000th like. Yaye me :P
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