When Troofers Annoy

[ConspiracyDebunked]

every thruther is some sort of degenerate high school or college drop out it seems like. They feel like they know more then professionals in structural engineering and science in general. Makes me sick. Wish all of these asswipes would be deported out of the United States.

[tgotto1987]

Troofers or Twoofers is like a childs response when their upset. Im gonna change the name a little bit so they sound silly. Wow I'm mature. Tell me this people who believe the official story. What piece of evidence or pieces of evidences does fire fit better then explosives? Do you have any? Because we have tons of facts that make more sense for explosives then fires. Actually we have facts that prove fire could never be the cause.

[theBartone9119]

@tgotto1987 Actually you are very dumb animal. There was no free fall on the towers , this vid proves it /watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4. You got pwned. Jones and Harrits found common traces of thermite/thermate like sulfur, but the dry wall in the towers was sulfur based, and the concrete had iron rich spheres, they won't even get it CONFIRMED in a lab. Steel does not have to melt to bring a building down (dumbass!). Most scientists think Jones, Herrits, and AE911 are wackos. You were wrong. kill yourself

[theBartone9119]

@tgotto1987 The only thing childish is you believing all of that garbage. I can call you anything I want and still be more mature. Richard Gage the dude who stared AE911 is a fraud, and you are a tool for believing him. You obviously have NO clue what you are talking about. Any scientist will say you are wrong about everything. You need to get your head checked, you are living in denial of reality and need to sign off of you-tube for a while.

[tgotto1987]

The building falls at free fall speed. They find military grade nano thermate in the remains of the towers. Steel is melted. The majority of the building were turned into powder including a lot of the steel. There are flashes and squibs. Tell me this what fits that description more, fires or explosives? Any scientist will tell you to go where the evidence points not where you want it to go. I know its hard to believe. I lived in a lie for 8 and 1/2 years then I did the research. It's conclusive.

[superdog797]

@tgotto1987 do you even know what nano thermite is

[NeverOwned]

What kind of moron pays to go hear a speech that ufos and bigfoot dont exist?

[buck65100]

All troofers should be sen't to the middle east !!! Fuck them if they think they have it so bad ship them out!!!!!!FUCKERS

[buck65100]

Troofers ignore every fact and plausible answer until they hear what they wan't to hear...They desecrate the graves of 3,000 people with there bizarre theories and lies based on bogus facts! For example....there was no planes..the towers were hit by missiles.. fell at free fall speed... planes were hollowgrams.. towers were nuked..massad agents planted bombs on every floor...they fell into there own footprint..pull it is a demolition term..and my personal favorite...the cores vaporized.. LMFAO

[SpellboundSolution]

There are so many of these angry people that I'm starting think it's less an ideology than a mutant strain of Rabies. Too bad they live.

[lamiac2411]

Fuck the science on how the godamn buildings fell. FUCK THE NIST REPORT. If you have to be absolutely retarded and dumb as a box of fuckin rocks to believe there was no foul play on 9/11. Look who benefited and look what it has been used as a pretext for. Just about everything. If you want to walk around thinking everything is just fuckin merry while the FED robs every penny you got and they poisin your water then more power to ya. We need to rid the earth of the dumbest among us anyway

[Quex01]

what a stuoid troofers, goverment doing great job keeping ameica free police must put here nuts in prison and cut ther nuts off ahahahaa

[screwloosejamesb]

Not sure who. I use it mostly because using the word "truth" is very misleading when referring to the 9/11 "truth" movement. I refuse to let them corrupt the word.

[Inediblehulk]

Speaking of annoy, who invented this "troofer" word, why, and how has it become so widespread among the anti-truth "scene"? Have any of you who type it ever spoken it? You'd sound retarded! If you're trying to debate or convince, why talk babytalk?

[dorot222]

@Inediblehulk

When conspiracy theory nutjobs hijack the word "Truth", all in association to a super sensitive issue such as the worst terror attack ever by Muslim radicals, coming up with some silly disparaging slang word to describe these hippie, anti globalization, anarchist whores is appropriate

[Inediblehulk]

@dorot222 I think "anarchist whore" works better as a disparaging term. Or "liar" or something simple like that. By calling them Troofers, you're just acknowledging that they have indeed successfully "hijacked" the word "truth". "Troof" isn't even a word, let alone an insult. Just a mispronunciation. Still sounds like, and reminds outside observers, of "truth". You're defeating your own purpose with backwards smears.

[WarCrime911]

The unfortunate side effect of 9/11 truth is that you have uneducated people trying to take action and they end up misrepresenting the facts and science of 9/11.

Michael Shermer has FAILED at being a true skeptic. Try being as skeptical of the Official Government theory as you are of the alternative theories of 9/11. You so called "skeptics" crack me up... It's like you guys use that label to defend you ego or something. I will debate ANYONE on the science of 9/11.

This kid is an idiot.

[terrymanning1]

God troofers are stupid

[wejewsdid911HAHAHA89]

LOOK ASSHOLES WE DID 9-11 NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[EARTH51087]

holy shit that is so embarrassing that kid is so brainwashed

[lowaces]

on the FBI official website it proves they're not looking for Osama bin laden for the crimes of 9/11

wonder why ?

[tickyul]

Do I believe 9-11 was an inside US government job? Uh, Duh, NO! Do I believe that the US government intentionally let 9-11 happen? NO! Do I believe that Bush and Cheney were at remote controls of the jets that crashed into the Wtc's? Uh, duh, no! I DO BELIEVE THAT HUGE SHORTCOMINGS IN US IMMIGRATION POLICIES ALLOWED 9-11 TO HAPPEN, THOSE SHORTCOMINGS STILL EXIST. THOUSANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIEN-ISLAMISTS ARE IN THE USA. This country would rather spend billions a month on Trashcanistan than the USA.

[jazzfan5000]

I think a lot of the 9/11 Truth movement is part of what would be called a "worst case scenario." Sure, there are some far-fetched accusations about how the WTC was demolished, but what about the Pentagon? Why is it when an average Joe Schmoe asks about the Pentagon, they are silenced or told they're some sort of whack job or even worse told they're un-American?? We've only seen two videos of the Pentagon attack that show absolutely nothing... just an explosion... where's the plane?

[lamiac2411]

@jazzfan5000 Whenever any1 raises legitimate questions about 9/11 they are immediately silenced and told they r mentally ill. Then you have the dip shits repeating the word "twoofer" just like they heard it on the news calling people retarded while they take it up the ass by the FED and listen to fake conservatives on the radio. There was a conference in which Silverstein was asked as 2 who he really talked 2 b cause it wasn't the fire cheif. He refused 2 answer the question.

[m1rock]

troofers are asshole liars.

[Magni56]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA°

Serves the twoofer morons right.

[frilloman828]

yeah, people who are inquring and seek the truth by asking questions about events that were blatently covered up are total losers. its like wow, it happened, the government staged yet a false flag attack in order to launch us into another 20 years of war. jee god, you 911 thruther dorks, get over it already. Hey, maybe its better for the psyche of the country if people remain in a state of illusion, you know Americans are very lazy and willfully ignorant, and they like it that way.Hooray FoxNews

[ammoMtaFoY]

Yeah, you're right, Americans are generally willfully ignorant. The thing is, if you want people to take you seriously, you need to present evidence that hasn't already been debunked by engineers, physicists, and everyone else who is actually QUALIFIED to talk about these kinds of things. Skepticism of government is a good thing; making shit up is another thing completely, and it only makes you more like the very people you're opposing.

[frilloman828]

hell ya man. that takes balls to stand up for the truth and question "important" people. 9/11 was an inside job, its so obvious and right in front of our faces yet jackasses like you screwloosejamesb try to divert people away and post this propaganda. so, did building 7 just magically fall all by itself without being struck by any plane or incindiary. so since when did it become uncool to ask questions? Why do you feel you have to insult those who are brave enough to seek the truth. pathetic.

[dorot222]

@frilloman828 Because you are trying to deflect the blame from the Muslims who did it to the US government. You are not asking a question. You are taking an anti-American pro-Jihad stand.

Let's assume for the sake of the argument that 9/11 was an inside job...does fanatic Muslims who hate America exist on this planet?If god forbid they will execute another terror attack on 9/11 or a greater scale against a western target at some point in the future..what would you say then?Another inside job?

[dorot222]

@dorot222 You will post videos on you tube to show this and that are fake?

Is radical Islam fake?

Even if it is not well formulated fucking troofers have an agenda. And it is an anti-American agenda.

That is why you are troofers...

[Wez666]

9/11 truthers are losers.

[frilloman828]

9/11 was an inside job. if you don't see what is happening in our country then you are a blind dumb fucking sheep who is forcing yourself not to wake up. i bet you will gladly go off to a fema camp when your house gets taken away. this shit is sad, but its reality. do your own research and stop blinding yourself to shit that is not important. shit is goin down soon.

[Wez666]

yeah, sure really soon

Losers like Alex Jones are still alive.

Twoofers are proof that stupid people shouldn't breathe

[frilloman828]

wow, you don't even have an opinion, do you. you are just so much of a coward that you resort to name calling at people who are true patriots and have the balls to question the government and the new world order. the time is now. god will show mercy on those who are concious and refuse to be seduced by corruption and evil. the nwo is a satanic movement pushing towards one central government and one world religion: satanism. this is real.you are all sheep. research bohemian grove.

[sirreal6]

noob

[Rickyrab]

Hurricane Katrina was an inside job. People with giant fans in Haiti convinced Zephyrus, god of the winds, to blow into New Orleans so that Dubya would lose teh election LOL

[MJB919]

Actually sources are now saying that George W Bush has a secret weather control station somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico

[dorot222]

@Rickyrab I have a video to prove it...go to liarandatroofer. us

[m1rock]

LOL then he has his fat buddy in the audience trying to start a slow clap. Nobody follows. No $hit. This isn't your friends blog their "Garth".

[m1rock]

their=there

[Shutitup18]

These "9/11 Truthers" are very annoying and complain too much because they want a "fair say" in their ridiculous claims yet when an event such as this takes place they more than happily interrupt and make nonsense claims whihc are complete and utter bullshit. The hypocrisy is so evident in their actions. God help us all

[conotoxin]

Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then reject all evidence, science & data that doesn't fit their theories, and then hail their theory as the only possible conclusion.

Oh, and when you demonstrate one of their theories wrong, you are a shill, a plant, and a sheeple.

They stampede in a herd to support the latest theory with religious zeal. It is a shame they don't work that hard on their educations.

[evenesteven]

Those who support the conspiracy theory that 19 Arabs armed with boxcutters, led by a man in a cave, could knock down 3 towers with two planes are kooks. Or zionist moles, like Shmeremer... :)

For the non kooks, check out Christopher Bollyn's work (up to mid 07) for possible leads...

[rg5083]

The 9/11 "truth" movement build on the same foundation as the creationists - poor logic, worse science together with distortions, lies and deliberate deceptions. I don't envy people like Dr Shermer who try and debate these people as they just rationalize away any anomaly. The less evidence there is, the more powerful and far reaching the conspiracy is!

[korictixor]

lol typical conspiracy theorist, he looks like wayne's blonde friend from wayne's world

[frilloman828]

yeah, that would be Garth you schlep

[jwynhausen]

What's really amusing is how Shermer can't handle any deviation from his set topic... Clearly the "twoofer" put him in his place. Incredibly entertaining... two thumbs WAY UP... Portland kicks ass!!!!

[nickjm007]

Hahaha. And that all of which the "twoofer" is capable. Catching someone off guard who 1) has no interest in your discussion, or 2) has no tactical and graceful skill to steer a public discussion back to the topic for which it was intended is hardly a success.

[nickjm007]

Exactly the opposite, actually. The idea that a lack of empirical evidence can prove a theory is a sad one and if any malicious and underhanded actions were made by individuals in the Bush administration, I wish men like this "twoofer" were not allowed to speak about it. You're just hurting your own cause.

[simontam777]

What's really amusing is assholes like you who go around harrasing anybody who calls your bullshit on 9/11 and the stupid harrassment campaign that idiots like you engage in to make YOURSELVES look like even bigger desperate MORONS!

[GwionX]

It is a "fair game" policy much like the Scientologists. 9/11 truthers seek out people who question their kookie beliefs--then make a spectale of themselves, and disrupt their lives.

[tchfunkta]

Shermer has appeared on the History channel and done a volume in his Skeptic magazine detailing everything the guy asked about. He didn't put Shermer in his place, Shermer laughed at the annoyance and moved BACK to the book he was promoting, for which he had limited time and didn't need to fuel some asshole's fire. Portland does kick ass, but not because of egotistical pricks like that.

[jakeogh]

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[chucksheen]

LooseChangeTheFinalCut dot com

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[skimonki]

For historical background on the use of deadly false flag terror attacks by the West to help discredit and/or "demonize" the enemy of the day, research the cold war covert operation by MI6,CIA, NATO known by the code name "Gladio."

Gladio operative: "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Just use Google

[tchfunkta]

LOL, I was there. People couldn't stand that fucking guy. It's not about spreading truth for these people, it's about the arrogance and ego of standing before a crowd and saying "I HAVE THE REAL ANSWER." What an asshole.

[quincythor]

There is absolutly nothing funny about the stupidity of these people. Truthers my ass. This herd is in need of thinning.

[aussiestormer]

that stupid truther should have been tazered.

[FuckYouYouFuck]

So he didn't even answer the guy's question/address his rant?

Yer, way to pwn that skeptic.

[Datan0de]

It would've been redundant. Skeptic magazine (of which Shermer is the editor) did an issue that investigated the "truther" claims in depth and found them to be groundless. Nothing this heckler said hadn't already been thoroughly debunked. BTW, in case you're interested in picking it up, the issue is volume 12, number 4.

[FuckYouYouFuck]

Sure, because there are absolutely no anomalies with the official version of events what-so-ever. The guy in the video may be an obnoxious douchebag, that doesn't mean everyone who is skeptical of that official version of events is a nut. Skeptic magazine sounds dubiously named.

[Datan0de]

Then I submit that you're confusing "skeptic" with "cynic." The two are not synonymous. One is a rational standpoint of evaluating the evidence and then deciding, while the other is deciding on the contrarian stance and then rationalizing the data so that it "agrees" with the preconception.

Incidentally, there isn't a dichotomy here. Errors here and there in the 9/11 Commission report wouldn't automatically make the conspiracy theory true, nor would it exempt it from the same burden of proof.

[FuckYouYouFuck]

Anyone parroting the official line of the Bush administration is worthy of suspicion by definition.

Personally, I don't see the place of the skeptic as ever drawing conclusions on behalf of observers.

A skeptic should spend his/her time explaining why you shouldn't believe something, not why you should believe something else as the absolute truth.

Shermer failed to use the opportunity to discredit the obnoxious beatnik's claims.

[Datan0de]

"A skeptic should spend his/her time explaining why you shouldn't believe something"

Then your definition of skeptic is flawed. A skeptic seeks the truth, wherever the evidence leads. Sometimes the truth is that the guy you don't like *isn't* at fault. I can't stand Bush either, but that doesn't make the US government in the 9/11 attacks.

Shermer didn't have to discredit the guy because only one person in the room thought he wasn't nuts (him), and he likely won't respond to reason or evidence.

[Datan0de]

Typo on my part. "I can't stand Bush either, but that doesn't make the US government culpable in the 9/11 attacks."

BTW, there is no "absolute" knowledge. You should always be open to new data, else you're just a mindless ideologue. However, that doesn't mean accepting claims blindly, nor does it mean not holding all data to the same evidentiary standard.

[FuckYouYouFuck]

A scientist is someone who seeks truth and understanding. A skeptic is someone who has an attitude of doubt and a disposition to incredulity, who suspends judgement. Skepticism has nothing to do with drawing conclusions and advocating those consclusions.

Shermer didn't even bother to tell the guy he's wrong.

Also, the beatnik got a couple claps. It's possible they were sarcastic, but you can't pretend he's alone in his beliefs, or that his beliefs make him inherently unintelligent.

[Datan0de]

"Skepticism has nothing to do with drawing conclusions and advocating those consclusions."

And 9/11 had nothing to do with why Shermer was there. He was there to discuss his new book, not to lend legitimacy to this fool's argument by taking the time to argue with someone who's immune to reason.

Sadly, you're right that the guy isn't alone. His beliefs don't make him unintelligent, but they do show that his world view is unfettered by evidence, logic, and reason.

[RexMundi71]

They should call it the Uncouth Movement the way a bunch of these nutbars have assembled outside of Silverstein's property and shouted "murderer!" and other despicable things. If the nutbars only knew that critical thinking was inoculation against viral video.

[twold4this]

Listened to Shermer on Skepticality podcast, he mentioned this video. Two brief points; first - as the 'Popular Mechanics' 9/11 book commented it was thought that internet 'facts' would be ephemeral, but it has turned out to be the complete opposite ie information hangs around, passed from one site to another, quoted, long after it is discredited. Second -perhaps Shermer should write a book about Why People Believe Weird Things......

[HarveyGillette]

Rock solid evidence? What a fucktard. I wish the troofers would all jump off a cliff like the lemmings they are.

[ConsDemo]

The guy with the long hair is a true moron. His supposed "evidence" wouldn't hold up in any court. They are so certain of things that are at best irrelevant and at worse are flat out lies.

[jcchurch]

Shermer just mentioned this video on Skepticality, so I came to check it out. The guy is a jerk. Shermer offered to talk about it after the signing and he just kept interrupting. Show a little decency.

[Swazi4]

If you talked like this dumbass in the video, I'd interrupt you to. I guess you just can't cure stupid, which is why the 'Truth" Movement still exists.

[Swazi4]

I think I may have misread you quote. I thought you were calling Shermer the jerk. My apologise.

[jcchurch]

No problem. I probably could have worded my post differently. I wasn't going to argue.

[ucthefuture]

The crowd is stupid, he is talking for you even if you don't know it. Sheeple should just stay quite, if you can't think for yourself, shut up. He a patriot, and your a fool.

[Swazi4]

Wow I really hope that you're joking. Everything that kid said is rehashed twoofer garbage that has been debunked thousands of times by actual research and common sense. That kid isn't a patriot. There's only two things that make you a patriot. Fighting stupid twoofers, and recording New York Jets defensive signals.

[neumical]

@Swazi4 the building with the least damage collapsed while the other standing buildings around the twin towers received more damage and didn't collapse...

You bloody agent!

[SSHitMan]

No, he's an idiot. The proof of this is when he brought up Silverstein. All troofer idiots think Silverstein confessed to blowing up WTC 7 on national TV. That's what makes them idiots.

[blondbostonian]

# 1 It's you're not your.

# 2 It's quiet not quite.

You're a regular rocket scientist.

[torrent29]

Great, then we can expect you to keep your mouth shut in the future? After all 911 twoofies are little more then cultists in disguise.

[Swazi4]

LOL....God truthers are retarded. Pretty funny that the guy in the cap claped for like 3 seconds, looked around, realized no one else agreed with this, and stopped.