Don't listen to Ron Paul's words. They're not important right now. What is important is the meaning of those words as told to you by Ron Paul. He knows what he's saying better than you can know what you hear.
if he's saying he wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that does make him sound like a racist because during that time people were racist. These days it would seem wrong not to hire someone based on race but there are still plenty of people who would, and that's not fair to judge someone on skin color. People would probably riot if their rights were stripped and that's what he wants to do and it scares me.
You guys are killing me with the "White Only fabric" bullshit. If we assume that your assertion is correct (that the sign was actually meant for fabrics) should we then believe that segregation did not exist? There is plenty of photographic evidence and "living evidence" of the existence of "Whites Only" signs all over the south in the 60s.
I could be a little off base here, but I'm pretty sure that "WHITES ONLY" on a Laundromat machine refers to the color of the clothing, not the individual using the machine. chris matthews is just looking for racism to use in a point of his. RON PAUL would have voted agasint the 1964 CRA because he didnt want federal employees to get another holiday at the taxpayers expense
Chris Matthews needs to understand property rights and that the government should not tell business what do with their property. If some idiot wants to be racist and not allow mexicans, blacks, asians or if one of those races don't want whites thats fine. let those business go out of business because those customer will go to their competitors. VOTE RON PAUL 2012
this clears it up that Ron Paul says that he believes in a color-blind society and free liberties without being infringed upon by government. The act forced business owners to hire o a racial quota, which put government racial regulations on employment. That is why he was against it , not because he doesn't believe people should not be segregated.
@RingoMo3 Can you point to the specific laws that contain a racial quota on employment? No you can't because they don't exist. Employers aren't forced to hire anyone, they simply aren't allowed to discriminate for specific reasons. They can turn down an application from an unqualified man who happens to be black b/c he is unqualified, but not hiring b/c of his race is another matter. This is the 21st century, one segment of the population can't relegate another to 2nd class citizen status.
People are missing the point of what Ron is saying. But should I be surprised? This is America, a country filled with stupid, naive, and downright oblivious people in it who's hardest day to day problem is being forced to press the English button on an ATM machine. I wish Americans would open their eyes and use their brain for once. Once you realize the state our country lies in it will change your life.
Was I the only one who noticed at the end the dumbass host was talking about seeing whites only signs at the LAUNDRY! Fucking idiot! Whites only as is only white fabric you retard! lol The stupidity is amazing!
Ron Paul is not racist, use your brain and listen to what he says not what the host tries to get you to hear.
@FreeAmericaRP2012 1) He stated at the beginning of the video that he was in the south during the time of segregation and saw "white only" signs on other businessess 2) Your suggestion it meant "white fabric" is ridiculous, he said the sign was on the laundromat, not on a specific machine in the laundromat. 3) If other businesses in the south were segregated at the time then it's logical that a laundromat would be as well. Nice try to explain that way, but you've failed.
@FreeAmericaRP2012 1) He stated at the beginning of the video that he was in the south during the time of segregation and saw "white only" signs on other businessess 2) Your suggestion it meant "white fabric" is ridiculous, he said the sign was on the laundromat, not on a specific machine in the laundromat. 3) If other businesses in the south were segregated at the time then it's logical that a laundromat would be as well. Nice try to explain that way, but you've failed.
@njanovic1980 He said on the laundry machines. I only figured as much because someone was telling me about white only signs at a local laundromat this year and I had to point that out to them.
What makes you think Ron Paul will keep any of the promises he's making if he was to get into the white house??? What makes you think the power-elite would allow him to do any of those things???? Not that he will get in they won't even allow that. But it doesn't matter because none of the candidates will do anything different or better??? They will do what they are told once in office.
The civil rights act did nothing to protect anyone's civil rights. It was a policy of forced integration through reverse discrimination. It retracted from white people, mainly white male employers, their freedom of association in order to force them to accept women and colored people (formerly known as minorities) into the workplace. But it backfired with women and colored people taking refuge in welfare and military service- welfare 2.0.
@VerumAdNauseam Yep, got to pity us poor white folk. No longer can we relegate other segments of society to second class citizen status. (that's sarcasm by the way) I bet you are just pinning for the days of the old south, sitting on your porch and watching the "darkies" work your cotton fields.
Ron Paul simply thinks that the government should not be involved in personal decisions. Like he said with or without the laws racist people are still gonna be racist. Educated people needs no governing whatsoever.
c'mon man this shit is getting old. instead of putting LAWS to help govern you, educate people instead...because the more laws the more people will break em.
It would be simple minded if you really think RP is racist! We evolve at our own rate for everything we find acceptable or not. That is just the way our psychy works. We don't make people marry other races to integrate them we do it socially at our own pace. One day they will wonder why we had a problem with that. Ron Paul is for tolerance and Liberty for EVERYONE! Public places can not discriminated, private places are just that.. private they discriminate today anyways! "Men's" bthrm "Womans"
ppl say that if a person denyies black's from coming to there store.They whould loose money?The way i c it i dont c a white person stop goin 2 hes fav bar just cause they whont let blacks in.Im not tryin 2 spark racial hate maybe cause i look at so many youtuube comments that rly hate black's.i dont c a white person standing up for blacks maybe asians but not black's.
@TheSukairah People outcast each other with or without laws! I went into a hair salon with my friend and when we left, I found out they said "what did you bring a white person in here for?' I didn't even notice I was the only white person. It's not like anyone gets mad @ "African American Beauty Pageant" or BET or even Black History Month. I can't be part of any of that but I can respect their choices! It's said to run from anyone trying to bring up race and hate. Who trusts Fox?
people are so happy when there is a law against racism and drugs, because in their heads they seriously think it does something. it's as if they think racism abruptly ended in 1964 and 65. as if the LA race riots never happened, as if bobby kennedy and MLK were not assinated in following years. they when the supreme court says flag burning is constitutional, they all go crying. us citizens no longer understand the constution, their rights, nor the limits of government.
lmao at top-rated comment..yet furing those 99 years , just as the video brought up, it was illegal for a black person to be in military and marry a white women.
Top rated comments didn't even listen to Ron Paul. Let it be known CNN is absolutely evil and has an agenda against Ron Paul. Ron Paul would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because he wanted to get rid of the laws that were targeted at racism, not just put a band aide over it with an ACT. CNN has also made attempts at splicing and cutting film to make it look like he stormed out, when in fact after reviewing the actual footage he just walked away because it was over.
Ron Paul is so far ahead of us its not even funny! He is always right! The "equal opportunity employment" scheme just doesn't work. Its about who you know and where. The government doesn't need to tell me who to hire, what to buy, and what to put in my body!
ALL NEOCON GOP & OBAMA ARE THE SAME. They Love Wars & Permanent Detentions, They Love Burning US Constitution, They Love NDAA, SOPA, Patriot Act, FISA & Spying on Americans, They Love Torture, Killing families w/ Drones, Guantanamo & Drug War, They Love Corporate Bailouts & Subsidies, They Love Giving TRILLIONS to Pentagon & War Industry, They Love Zionists, AIPAC & sending Israel TRILLIONS, They Love Fed Reserve and WONT Audit it, They Love Fascism & they ALL take Bribes
Dr Ron Paul= ONLY USA PATRIOT WHO PUTS AMERICA FIRST, ALL OTHERS (GINGRICH, OBAMA, ROMNEY, PERRY, BACHMAN, HUNTSMAN, SANTORUM ARE ONLY LOYAL TO ISRAEL & AIPAC)
Ron= ONLY ONE WHO WONT START A WAR WITH IRAN BASED ON LIES
Ron= ONLY ONE WHO RESPECTS US CONSTITUTION, HATES NDAA & PATRIOT ACT, FIGHTS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES, WANTS YOU TO HAVE MORE FREEDOM & CHOICE, RON LOVES CAPITALISM (NOT CORPORATISM, NOT TOO BIG TO FAIL, NOT BAILOUTS, NOT SUBSIDIES, NOT FASCISM)
Ummm, management reserve the right to refuse whoever they want in their establishment as it stands, they don't even need to give a reason. Why am I constantly hearing this dullard's argument?
he speaks the truth...people today realize racism is not right, and inhumane...what happened 50 years ago will not repeat itself today... Ron Paul 2012 seems like the the best choice for me
@afkhajiit Yeah I heard him. Hes one of these people who thinks the free market can solve every problem and it cant. Your telling me it took a hundred years from the end of the civil war to the Montgomery bus boycott for the free market to take effect. How about all the black people being lynched and churches being lit on fire with people inside what did the free market do for them?
I'm not racist but let me ask this: If there is a white racist restaurant owner, how does forcing him to serve blacks help end racism? Is he magically going to stop being racist? No. It only increases racial tensions. And hell yes the free market helps. Look at the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
@elr456 Racism and discrimination are not the same thing. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 made discrimination illegal. Racism is a belief, while discrimination is an action.
Its sorta irrelevant, because it would not be repealed by the states anytime soon. With Ron Paul as President, at least we know that he would look out for the people and not sell out to special interests... like Obama did.
The forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty… The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society.
this battle is long lost. all industries get told what to do now by the govt. so much of our economic problems nowadays has to do with regulatory uncertainty, as in, the private sector is waiting for our govt to roll out concrete regulations that dictate how the private sector can do anything. so yeah, private property is a joke. regulatory hurdles is the biggest barrier to entry in any industry.. i'd rather do business in china/mexico than u.s.
P.S. If you read my comments and disagree with it, don't even write me to try and discuss it and change my mind about it. It's futile and will only serve to get yourself ridiculed by all the connections I have on all the sites I've joined. How? I'll post your foolishness everywhere.....everywhere. Opinions are like assholes and since we all have one...I don't want yours.
@jneil2007 The first amendment did not apply to people of my skin color at the time it was written....so do I believe in it??? I'll just say the day I see these rights applied equally across the board is the day I'll believe in them. Until then...no
Denying people service because you own a business and don't want to serve them is moronic and infantile. It is selfishness and ignorance to the utmost degree. I'm sure those who feel it's their God given right to treat other people as if they are substandard are those who have never been subject to such a decree. It's bad enough that my status as a citizen and human being in this country isn't even permanent law and the day that entire act is revoked is the day I will take it to the streets!!
Chris Mathews might be the worst interviewer in the business, maybe even worse than Bill O'Reilly! He never let's his guests speak for themselves because he can't sit quiet long enough for them to do so. He sucks!
Ron Paul is right... the Civil Rights Act only increased the racial tensions and overly increased the crimes commited by blacks. Yes, it gave them the same opportunities, even to commit crimes and strike the racism against them with more racism, against Whites.
You can't use government to change people's opinions. The Civil Rights Act, while repealing the Jim Crow Laws (which should have been done decades before), allowed blacks to shop in racist white owned businesses. If someone's a racist and wants to freely admit they are racist, I say let them do it. It would make it easier to identify the backwoods morons in this country. (I'm looking at you, bill o'reilly)
These reply comments are funny. Why all the name calling? "you retard" " you ass wipe" "you ass-raider" "you pigeon shit" I never learned to use that in debates, but i guess that's how arguments are won online, skip the topic of the debate throw insults and whichever one sounds the best wins.
@Yabuturtle So basically if I own a store and place a sign "whites only" the federal government should have not get involved?????? WOW!!! So the federal government should not get involved in ENDING racism?????
@pjmgame No it shouldn't. Because the Federal government has no authority to do so. Do I tell YOU who to do business with? It's your private business. You do what you want with it. You can't end racism you idiot. There will always be racism just like there will always be drugs. Telling people who to do business with won't end it, there will still be racist people regardless what the Federal government does. But knowing how not many people like racism, you wouldn't see those signs anyway.
@Yabuturtle You can't end racism if you DON'T MAKE A EFFORT TO END IT!!!! Laws are ENFORCED by the police. You disobey, you go to jail. DO YOU GET THAT????
@pjmgame No I don't get it because it doesn't make any fucking sense. Someone should not go to jail because they want to deal with certain people. You can't make someone be moral. You can't take away people's rights to be assholes. Stop shouting it doesn't make your point anymore credible, it just makes you sound like a loud mouthed buffoon trying to act smart. You can't end racism anymore than you can end drugs. the War on drugs failed. Still people using drugs, so I've mad my point now.
@Yabuturtle That wasn't my point. My point is is that the voting against the Civil Rights Act is WRONG because your basically saying black people are not equal to white people.
@pjmgame Words cannot express how much ignorant you are. You need to realize this. It's not mandated in the Constitution. The Federal government has no authority to tell you who to do business with. Therefore it's unconstitutional. When did I say that black people are not equal to whites? And furthermore, there's other races besides white and black you know. All I'm saying is if a person doesn't want asians or blacks ect in his store, he has the right. Go to another store if you don't like it.
@pjmgame Words cannot express how ignorant you are. You need to realize this. It's not mandated in the Constitution. The Federal government has no authority to tell you who to do business with. Therefore it's unconstitutional. When did I say that black people are not equal to whites? And furthermore, there's other races besides white and black you know. All I'm saying is if a person doesn't want asians or blacks ect in his store, he has the right. Go to another store if you don't like it.
@Yabuturtle So you believe that there should be segreated schools? The Federal Government MUST DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! Segeration and allowing anti-race in your stores IS ILLEGAL. 14th Amendment.
last time i checked, racism still exists. Ron Paul isnt a racist. He is one who cherishes human lives and wants them to have their full freedom and liberty. How quickly we forget what REAL racism entails. Amazing.
It's more about who makes the rules, not about the rules themselves. The federal government should not control private businesses. Mr. Paul has this stance on many issues, most do NOT involve race, like education and marriage. It's just NOT the feds job.
Ron Paul also said he would have never voted for Jim Crow laws. He also offered 100 dollars of his own pocket to help pay for the Congressional Medal of Honor given to Rosa Parks. How can someone like that be racist?? The answer: HE CAN'T. Ron Paul IS NOT RACIST. He said this because it felt like it conflicted with property rights not because he is racist.
If blacks owned a family restaurant or nightclub they should be able to refuse service to whites as well, especially if those whites come into their place of business with neo-nazi tatoos or were overheard conversing derogatorily about blacks while in the restaurants. It's a PRIVATE business.
I wouldn't expect black fraternity or social club to invite me to join nor would I sue them for rejecting me on the basis of my race.
This is just stupid. "Liberals" love to demagogue the race issue.
@dblari No don't you see? He really exclaims that that was in the past that racism doesnt exist on a structual level, now even private businesses are able to frelly discriminate, He either believes this lie, or doesn't care,
I'd vote for him either way, hopefully he'll tear down this rapacious Capitalist-imperialist system, Whether he doesn it knowingly or not
@dblari Except that the mass boycotts during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s played a decisive role in the abolition of the Jim Crow laws. The free market took a plunge when a significant amount of people decided that laws restricting the sales of products to individuals of a certain ethnicity are repugnant.
@dblari 1. government shouldn't have instituted jim crow in the first place 2. government cant change the way 'people think. it's not as if the civil rights act got rid of racism; it's merely a piece of legislation. it was the people of america, fueled by dr. king and the civil rights movement, who improved race relations in this country.
@dblari Jim Crow was not de jure law. It was de facto and it continued in the die-hard southern racists for many years after the Civil Rights Act. Times were changing, and the idea of the melting pot was becoming more acceptable. The Free Market did end Jim Crow, just not "officially" or by "decree" at any precise moment by any one man..
@dblari You are wrong. If slavery was truly ended then there would have been no Jim Crow laws or black codes. You can repeal those laws without infringing on property rights. That is what Paul is arguing. He is saying the free market will take care of racist shop owners, who under the 1st ammendment have the right to be racist. Not that the free market would end segregation.
@jneil2007 "who under the 1st ammendment have the right to be racist"
There's a huge difference between free-speech and hate-speech. I'm glad I'm from UK where racists are punished/fined accordingly. I was a victim of racism at school, and if it wasn't for anti-racism laws, I would've probably killed myself. There's something fundamentally wrong with America, especially this notion of 'freedom of speech'. I think the Founding fathers did not specify it further, that free-speech is for criticism
@dblari How can the free market end Jim Crow when Jim Crow is a law itself? Paul is saying he would have repealed the Jim Crow laws SO THAT segregation would end in a free market setting where property rights were protected as well.
"So, there could potentially be a bunch of legally racist businesses taking over the services of things that once were offered by the Government..."
What? First, tell me what business would survive in today's society & economy by discriminating potential customers? What business would survive the bad publicity of a public boycott? And what government services would be replaced by the private sector? And why do assume they'll be run by racists? Lot of presumptions on your part.
Paul's argument is crap. The reason why today it would appear "stupid" for a store owner to put up a whites only sign is specifically because the legislation helped change attitudes. It was part of a cultural revolution/evolution which brought about more acceptance of African descendents. These attitudes would not have changed if integration was only mandatory for government institutions. The civil rights act, at least as much as the emancipation proclamation "liberated" and entire people.
@timpipe Agree. To take it further, the kind of property rights that Paul seeks to "protect" by repealing things like the Civil Rights Act don't need protection. One can already freely discriminate with one's business. Private clubs can discriminate based on things like race, gender, disability, etc. The only thing that the CRA does is say that business open to the public must serve the entire public.
@timpipe The emancipation proclamation didn't liberate an "entire people." It only freed slaves that were in seceded southern states, not the border states.
Wow, what the hell is the problem, all Ron Paul is saying is that rather than introducing new laws to ban segregation he would have repealed laws that allowed segregation in the first place. We would have reached the same conclusion through different methods, thats all, it does not mean he's racist!
@SJT9791 And your clearly retarded, the constitution already protects EVERYBODY there is no reason to introduce new laws that try to enforce morality, laws are not supposed to do that and they do it ineffectively. Jim Crow laws were illegal in the first place... are you arguing that they were not?
@J3rEmY17 THANK YOU! Too many people on here aren't thinking deeper and analyzing what Ron Paul is saying. He wouldn't have voted for the Jim Crow laws in the first place. Also to the top commenter, the Civil War was not about racism or slavery. The South was being taxed to death so they got pissed and seceded. One good example of what Ron Paul is saying is the Montgomery Bus Boycott. That didn't turn out too well for the racist whites now did they?
"Dur hur Ron is stupid even though I'm not going to explain why." Ok LISTEN this time and let me educate you. Pay attention. The 1964 Civil Rights Act is inherently unconstitutional. It tells private business owners that they can not choose who they want to do business with. How would you feel if the government told you you had to marry someone you did not choose? The federal government has no authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please.
@Yabuturtle You can't take away people's rights to be assholes. That doesn't make Ron racist. But people don't think before they say something? Basically Ron is saying that people have a right to be an asshole, and it's a PRIVATE business. The Federal Government has no right to tell you who you can allow in a private place. He said since racism is so frowned upon today, no business is not going to discriminate, because if he won't allow blacks in, whites won't go either because of the racism.
@Yabuturtle I meant to say no business is going to discriminate because racism is frowned upon. You don't need a law like this. the government can't teach you to be moral, it can't make you a better person and it can't make you follow good habits. We didn't need a federal law for this? Don't you guys even know what the Federal government is supposed to do at all? Didn't you do any homework? Most of Ron's policies make sense anyway, he's a thousand times better than Obama and the others.
@Yabuturtle So, if a business owner says he doesn't want to do business with me because I'm black or hispanic or asian or white even, that's okay? Government shouldn't be allowed to tell him he can't do that? Wow!
@spencet30 Yes! Because it's MY business! The Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional. The Federal government has no right to tell you who you can do business with you. But as Ron said if you paid any attention at all, there wouldn't be any signs because not only racism is frowned upon today, but the person would lose money by losing more customers.
@spencet30 It's the price of liberty. you can't expect to be in a country that prides itself on freedom without expecting freedom. i may not agree with it, because i know how screwed up people will be, but it's freedom none the less.
In today's society, how many business do you think would remain viable if that was their policy? Think about it man. You can't just walk into a TV station and say I want to be on TV because they enforce their property rights. Why should any other business establishment be different? If some idiot wants to segregate his store to whites only, the public would show their disdain by not spending money there and that business owner would be forced to change his policy or close.
@spencet30 If you believe in the first ammendment you have the right to deny ANYBODY service if it is your property. When it comes to government buildings everybody is protected because it is everybody's building. I think that is very logical.
@spencet30 Yes! if that business owner actually did that to you, you can yelp the shit out of him! his business would get negative reviews from other blacks n hispanics, and after a while that business would close down by popular demand!!! it's called private property homie!!!! think about it, what if it was ur house? all private property is the same! house/club/bar/hospital= private property= government needs to fuck off!
Exactly. WHY would you WANT to give a racist money for his product? You in that way would be supporting racism. Why not give freedom and liberty a try in a 'free country '(by name only)
@spencet30 why should someone have to hire anyone? If you have put time and effort into making your business; shouldn't you be able to hire who you like? Who's business is it, the peoples, or the person who started the business? Basically what you are saying is, if someone doesn't like black people, he should have to hire them anyway. Why would someone want to work for someone who is racist? I don't really get it..
@spencet30 Yes the Government shouldn't be allowed to because that's forcing people to allow people into their private property, and they Government doesn't have any power to force you to do that.
@spencet30 Yep. Thats true. IT seems harsh, but once we give them that, then they have control in all other areas of the business (racial quotas, who we hire, etc.) and thats how socialism starts. Socialism (in a nut shell) is the government controlling business and citizens, thats what this (civil rights act) essentially is. But think about, if they ban blacks and blacks have money, and their competitors allow blacks, they'll change eventually because of profit loss.
@spencet30 Of course it's okay. If you own an apple, shouldn't you be able to decide who you're going to sell it to? If you're not able to choose who you sell it to, do you really own that apple? If government is going to force you to do something with property you own, is it really your property?
Also, Ron Paul was willing to put in $100 out of his own pocket to pay for Rosa Parks's Congressional Medal. He told this to all the representatives. All would put in 100 bucks to pay for the gold medal. Not a single representative took him up on his offer despite the starting pay for congressmen being 174K a year. Ron Paul is not racist. Don't misconstrue his strict interpretations of the Constitution as racist. They're not.
>>Don't misconstrue his strict interpretations of the Constitution as racist.
It was the interpretation of the constitution which ended segregation and served as the basis for the civil rights act.
>>Ron Paul is not racist.
Whether or not he is, his racist policy would be little comfort to the disadvantaged who need the provisions of affirmative action to have any shot at a decent job. I suppose you can tell the underpaid black janitor to buckle up, business owners need freedom.
Yeah, it would never happen today. Racism just magically stopped existing ten years ago. We have no new racial enemies *cough*Obama Muslim*cough*. We are such a benevolent and just people *cough*Arab and Muslim hatred, distrust and fear*cough*. Why hurt property owners *cough*Mexican immigrants and gays*cough*?
People stupid like Paul never learn from history no matter how many people get hurt.
@kDest Today is no different than 1964 where you are concerned. Racisim is not gone nobody with a brain would say it is. Amazing strides have been made in the last 40 years. You can see it in mixed realationships but aparantly you can't. Yes a black man is president does that wipe away all bad deeds no not in any way, does it show improvement hell yes it does. Sorry the world doesn't turn on a dime for you but things do change looking at history as an Italian I know how it was
>>You can see it in mixed realationships but aparantly you can't.
You are mistaking your environment for the whole nation. Our nation is heterogeneous in cultural distribution and values. For example, if you are gay, you do not want to be in Mississippi. Laws exist to even out our values, to lift backwards areas up to our standards.
>>you would have to be blind
It is not sufficient. Like I said, heterogeneous distribution of values. Their values do not affect the south as much.
@kDest As far as Mexicans and Arabs are concerned you would have to be blind to not see the oposition movement against the things you speak of. Nothing will ever be good enough for you & for that I pitty you. What the hell is wrong with property rights I guess the government should own everything. We tried it once it didn't work then & it wont work now
I should ask you why you have a problem with government keeping businesses safe towards society. Do you wish to employ children? Keep slaves? Make your employees work in unsafe conditions? These laws exist to keep businesses from being tyrants. Only two centuries ago it would be absurd to ban slavery. A slave was property.
>>I guess the government should own everything
You own your business, you just can't discriminate. Why is this bad?
@kDest History shows children were leaving the work force before the law, because as people were doing better their children didn't need to work. Just as it will be in 3rd world nations where they still do. Osha showed a graph showing how the work place became safer, look back a few years it was rising no faster than it already was. Slavery was on a decline all over the world the southern US was behind the curve. But still ahead of Africa. I work for profit I wouldn't cut customers of any race
First it required that education was mandatory for children. A law would be ineffective if children had no place to go. It also required free education, hence the public school system. Also, it required labor unions to make living conditions better for workers.
>>I work for profit
Children and slaves are the most profitable workforce. That is why they were so hard to eliminate from it. Other nations need free education and mandatory schooling, and labor unions.
@kDest The highest prosperity the US has ever experience was the end of the 19th to the beginning of the 20th century mandatory education started in 1918. People didn't send their children off to work because they hated them it was done due to necessity just as 3rd world countries today. I find it hard to believe you buy in to union propaganda at best unions have never been higher than 25% of the work force not enough to effect change when you have more work than workers wages & standard of
In those days it meant a handful of people were prosperous while the vast majority had little to call their own.
>>it was done due to necessity
Paying employees insufficiently created that necessity.
>>I find it hard to believe you buy in to union propaganda
It isn't propaganda. Business owners care nothing for their workers. This is what history shows us as they would gun them down and impoverish them. Unions gave workers a voice they never had before.
@kDest Now we are going to talk about violence let me guess the unions aren't responsible for any violence. How about the racism that are unions Davis Bacon act we need a law because companies are using cheap black labor. Business owners care about productivity not people, wages were rising before unions. You don't make decisions your self big business does it for you & you are one of those people who believe 9/11 was an inside job right?
@kDest living improves. Productivity is the key to a better life style. Yes I work for profit in a skilled industry children or slaves wouldn't help me in the slightest
Depends how you define each of those qualifiers. Productivity to factories means long work days with no healthcare or retirement. Better lifestyle often means for the owners of the factories, not the workers.
>>people need or want
The history of business is to create false needs. A problem looking for a solution. The diamond industry is an excellent example of this, so is the bottled water industry.
@kDest Living in your world must be a bitch, nothing good ever happens there unless the government says it's ok. Even then they are corupt, racists no wait we are all racists, because the MAJORITY position is racisim. I am sick of talking with you you are a sick twisted person who would argue the color of the sky. We are done!
@kDest Profit comes from providing a good or service that people need or want NO company can survive with out providing those 2 things, unless government is willing to spend YOUR money to keep them alive.
This is partly why Ron Paul will never be president. He doesn't know how to compromise his party's ideology for the good of society. He doesn't care about "freedom." He cares about property rights. That is the libertarian ideology: unlimited property rights no matter how badly it hurts society.
He should be ashamed of supporting such a bad idea, and then to revise history to support himself. Segregation and slavery existed because the people wanted it. It was mob rule versus minorities.
The question & this video are a joke. No publicly owned property should discriminate. If privately owned wants to be stupid enough to do such things it should be their right but they don't get public money to keep them in business when they fail because of it. The racism of 1964 wouldn't survive today because the people IE the customers wouldn't stand for it. The opinions of the people changed, but not because of law. This was done for ratings not to expose a racist
If it is bad for government, then it is bad for business. Don't make a double standard, especially when you know it won't be one lone business that discriminates, it will be many of them, and they will use their position to segregate towns.
Why do you think segregation laws existed? People wanted them. Business owners would accomplish the same.
@kDest Publicly owned means owned by the citizens there for there is no citizen who shouldn't be able to use it. Do you believe there are businesses who don't want to make money? This is not 1964 the climate has changed there are minorities who hold power & make good money. I am a small business owner I opened my business to make money, money is an equalizer because I don't care what color the person handing me the money is. You wont be a business owner long if you don't think that way.
>>Publicly owned means owned by the citizens there for there is no citizen who shouldn't be able to use it.
This isn't about property. If segregation makes a government harmful to society, which is the basis of why we don't want it... then it must do the same thing to businesses. If businesses can do do it, then you are arguing that government should be able to as well. Property arguments are just a distraction from this fact.
No it isn't. Ask any bigot who won't employ women. Actually, just look at how much women make compared to men. If money was a great equalizer they would make the same wages, and segregation wouldn't have existed.
>>You wont be a business owner long if you don't think that way.
History says you are wrong. Why should I trust you to be ethical towards society when a law will keep you honest, and give me recourse when you screw up?
@kDest You are all over the map which subject do you want to talk about? You have more faith in law than people. Do you think jail is why humans don't kill each other? Racisim is not gone, it never will be but as society changes things get better if you think we are all children & if a law isn't passed we wont know what to do I think you are close minded. As far as gender wage is concerned do you have a link because everything I have read is all over the place because it's not per hour
>>You are all over the map which subject do you want to talk about?
You wrote so many arguments, which I felt the need to comment upon.
>>You have more faith in law than people. Do you think jail is why humans don't kill each other?
Yes. Law is a big reason why our society is stable and relatively safe. You can validate this by contrasting states with impotent governments, or lawlessness. Opportunistic crime occurs rampantly there. Our law keeps many people straight.
>>if a law isn't passed we wont know what to do I think you are close minded
That is not my position. My position is simple: if you allow discrimination in the workplace and business, then it will increase in frequency until it segregates towns and cities.
>>do you have a link
A quick search of google shows many links on the subject. I found one by Hilary M. Lips, entitled "The Gender Wage Gap" on Women's Media.
Basically there is a gap, and it rises and falls with men's wages.
@kDest People kill each other law or no law it's a moral issue. The military says that the problem they have is getting soldiers to pull the trigger something they are trained to do. We are older than the laws yet we all exsist because for a primate to kill another primate go against the genetic code. I think it should be against the law & we do need laws. That would be my biggest complaint with Obama contract laws are very important. As far as wage women need to ask for more just like Lips said
Ron Paul should have received an Oscar for his role in "Bruno" !
Chuckscott 5 days ago in playlist Republicans are bigots!
Don't listen to Ron Paul's words. They're not important right now. What is important is the meaning of those words as told to you by Ron Paul. He knows what he's saying better than you can know what you hear.
Wake up, sheeple!!
AnAgentProvocateur 5 days ago
if he's saying he wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that does make him sound like a racist because during that time people were racist. These days it would seem wrong not to hire someone based on race but there are still plenty of people who would, and that's not fair to judge someone on skin color. People would probably riot if their rights were stripped and that's what he wants to do and it scares me.
jakeencpd 2 weeks ago
What a disgusting creature of darkness Ron Paul is. You are NOT a libertarian.
stigler30 2 weeks ago
You guys are killing me with the "White Only fabric" bullshit. If we assume that your assertion is correct (that the sign was actually meant for fabrics) should we then believe that segregation did not exist? There is plenty of photographic evidence and "living evidence" of the existence of "Whites Only" signs all over the south in the 60s.
wmcdavid 2 weeks ago
I could be a little off base here, but I'm pretty sure that "WHITES ONLY" on a Laundromat machine refers to the color of the clothing, not the individual using the machine. chris matthews is just looking for racism to use in a point of his. RON PAUL would have voted agasint the 1964 CRA because he didnt want federal employees to get another holiday at the taxpayers expense
86austinc86 4 weeks ago
Chris Matthews needs to understand property rights and that the government should not tell business what do with their property. If some idiot wants to be racist and not allow mexicans, blacks, asians or if one of those races don't want whites thats fine. let those business go out of business because those customer will go to their competitors. VOTE RON PAUL 2012
86austinc86 4 weeks ago
Some people just simply can't comprehend the Libertarian philosophy. No matter how much you try to explain it to them.
FuIIOfFaiI 1 month ago
this clears it up that Ron Paul says that he believes in a color-blind society and free liberties without being infringed upon by government. The act forced business owners to hire o a racial quota, which put government racial regulations on employment. That is why he was against it , not because he doesn't believe people should not be segregated.
RingoMo3 1 month ago
@RingoMo3 Can you point to the specific laws that contain a racial quota on employment? No you can't because they don't exist. Employers aren't forced to hire anyone, they simply aren't allowed to discriminate for specific reasons. They can turn down an application from an unqualified man who happens to be black b/c he is unqualified, but not hiring b/c of his race is another matter. This is the 21st century, one segment of the population can't relegate another to 2nd class citizen status.
njanovic1980 1 month ago
To Ron Paul: a repeal IS a LAW, dumbass:
"The Annulment or abrogation of a previously existing statute by the enactment of a later law that revokes the former law"
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Seeing the media act like this makes me want to support Dr. Paul more than before. The way they misconstrue his position is laughable.
Editors4Writers 1 month ago
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Editors4Writers 1 month ago
People are missing the point of what Ron is saying. But should I be surprised? This is America, a country filled with stupid, naive, and downright oblivious people in it who's hardest day to day problem is being forced to press the English button on an ATM machine. I wish Americans would open their eyes and use their brain for once. Once you realize the state our country lies in it will change your life.
HarryCaray3000 1 month ago
Was I the only one who noticed at the end the dumbass host was talking about seeing whites only signs at the LAUNDRY! Fucking idiot! Whites only as is only white fabric you retard! lol The stupidity is amazing!
Ron Paul is not racist, use your brain and listen to what he says not what the host tries to get you to hear.
Ron Paul 2012
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@FreeAmericaRP2012 Great point. Hilarious.
fredfosterx 1 month ago
@FreeAmericaRP2012 Hahahahahahhah! GOOD POINT! Brilliantly spotted.
acw225 1 month ago
@FreeAmericaRP2012 1) He stated at the beginning of the video that he was in the south during the time of segregation and saw "white only" signs on other businessess 2) Your suggestion it meant "white fabric" is ridiculous, he said the sign was on the laundromat, not on a specific machine in the laundromat. 3) If other businesses in the south were segregated at the time then it's logical that a laundromat would be as well. Nice try to explain that way, but you've failed.
njanovic1980 1 month ago
@FreeAmericaRP2012 1) He stated at the beginning of the video that he was in the south during the time of segregation and saw "white only" signs on other businessess 2) Your suggestion it meant "white fabric" is ridiculous, he said the sign was on the laundromat, not on a specific machine in the laundromat. 3) If other businesses in the south were segregated at the time then it's logical that a laundromat would be as well. Nice try to explain that way, but you've failed.
njanovic1980 1 month ago
@njanovic1980 He said on the laundry machines. I only figured as much because someone was telling me about white only signs at a local laundromat this year and I had to point that out to them.
FreeAmericaRP2012 1 month ago
@FreeAmericaRP2012:
I´m in the weird part of the Ron Paul sect on YT again......
C´mon - own up to admitting that HE HAS NO CHANCE.
MrSKINFLICK 2 weeks ago
@MrSKINFLICK You see Santorum, Romney, or Gingrich with crowds over 3,000 at their speeches? Didn't think so...
This movement (not campaign) is going to be a force like no other in this country you're welcome to join it when you realize you're wrong.
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What makes you think Ron Paul will keep any of the promises he's making if he was to get into the white house??? What makes you think the power-elite would allow him to do any of those things???? Not that he will get in they won't even allow that. But it doesn't matter because none of the candidates will do anything different or better??? They will do what they are told once in office.
pjones4491 1 month ago
The civil rights act did nothing to protect anyone's civil rights. It was a policy of forced integration through reverse discrimination. It retracted from white people, mainly white male employers, their freedom of association in order to force them to accept women and colored people (formerly known as minorities) into the workplace. But it backfired with women and colored people taking refuge in welfare and military service- welfare 2.0.
VerumAdNauseam 1 month ago
@VerumAdNauseam Yep, got to pity us poor white folk. No longer can we relegate other segments of society to second class citizen status. (that's sarcasm by the way) I bet you are just pinning for the days of the old south, sitting on your porch and watching the "darkies" work your cotton fields.
njanovic1980 1 month ago
@njanovic1980 Exactly! (that's sarcasm too by the way).
VerumAdNauseam 1 month ago
Ron Paul just makes excuses for his stupid stance on the Civil Rights Act....
freein2339 2 months ago
Ron Paul simply thinks that the government should not be involved in personal decisions. Like he said with or without the laws racist people are still gonna be racist. Educated people needs no governing whatsoever.
JimFattoo7 2 months ago
@JimFattoo7 why should we give them the ability when we don't have to
liberalmike1994 2 months ago
@liberalmike1994
c'mon man this shit is getting old. instead of putting LAWS to help govern you, educate people instead...because the more laws the more people will break em.
JimFattoo7 1 month ago
@JimFattoo7 that makes no sense at all why not legalise murder if thats the case since everyone is taught that killing is wrong?
liberalmike1994 1 month ago
It would be simple minded if you really think RP is racist! We evolve at our own rate for everything we find acceptable or not. That is just the way our psychy works. We don't make people marry other races to integrate them we do it socially at our own pace. One day they will wonder why we had a problem with that. Ron Paul is for tolerance and Liberty for EVERYONE! Public places can not discriminated, private places are just that.. private they discriminate today anyways! "Men's" bthrm "Womans"
lizluvskerry 2 months ago
ppl say that if a person denyies black's from coming to there store.They whould loose money?The way i c it i dont c a white person stop goin 2 hes fav bar just cause they whont let blacks in.Im not tryin 2 spark racial hate maybe cause i look at so many youtuube comments that rly hate black's.i dont c a white person standing up for blacks maybe asians but not black's.
TheSukairah 2 months ago
@TheSukairah People outcast each other with or without laws! I went into a hair salon with my friend and when we left, I found out they said "what did you bring a white person in here for?' I didn't even notice I was the only white person. It's not like anyone gets mad @ "African American Beauty Pageant" or BET or even Black History Month. I can't be part of any of that but I can respect their choices! It's said to run from anyone trying to bring up race and hate. Who trusts Fox?
lizluvskerry 2 months ago
@TheSukairah I stood up for blacks
ruleram1 2 months ago
people are so happy when there is a law against racism and drugs, because in their heads they seriously think it does something. it's as if they think racism abruptly ended in 1964 and 65. as if the LA race riots never happened, as if bobby kennedy and MLK were not assinated in following years. they when the supreme court says flag burning is constitutional, they all go crying. us citizens no longer understand the constution, their rights, nor the limits of government.
anUHkins 2 months ago
lmao at top-rated comment..yet furing those 99 years , just as the video brought up, it was illegal for a black person to be in military and marry a white women.
anUHkins 2 months ago in playlist Ron Paul
Top rated comments didn't even listen to Ron Paul. Let it be known CNN is absolutely evil and has an agenda against Ron Paul. Ron Paul would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because he wanted to get rid of the laws that were targeted at racism, not just put a band aide over it with an ACT. CNN has also made attempts at splicing and cutting film to make it look like he stormed out, when in fact after reviewing the actual footage he just walked away because it was over.
Surelog 2 months ago 7
Chris Matthews is an asshole and is too into feeling tingles up his leg for Obama.
billyakerman 2 months ago
BTW Ron Paul isn't racist...he says some of the exact same words as Martin Luther King & Kennedy...look it up, he is a true leader and patriot.
I'm not trying to win to get elected, I'm trying to change the course of history" -Ron Paul
lb8825 2 months ago
Ron Paul is so far ahead of us its not even funny! He is always right! The "equal opportunity employment" scheme just doesn't work. Its about who you know and where. The government doesn't need to tell me who to hire, what to buy, and what to put in my body!
Would you work for somebody who is racist?
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RONPAUL=OUR ONLY CHOICE
ALL NEOCON GOP & OBAMA ARE THE SAME. They Love Wars & Permanent Detentions, They Love Burning US Constitution, They Love NDAA, SOPA, Patriot Act, FISA & Spying on Americans, They Love Torture, Killing families w/ Drones, Guantanamo & Drug War, They Love Corporate Bailouts & Subsidies, They Love Giving TRILLIONS to Pentagon & War Industry, They Love Zionists, AIPAC & sending Israel TRILLIONS, They Love Fed Reserve and WONT Audit it, They Love Fascism & they ALL take Bribes
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Dr Ron Paul= ONLY USA PATRIOT WHO PUTS AMERICA FIRST, ALL OTHERS (GINGRICH, OBAMA, ROMNEY, PERRY, BACHMAN, HUNTSMAN, SANTORUM ARE ONLY LOYAL TO ISRAEL & AIPAC)
Ron= ONLY ONE WHO WONT START A WAR WITH IRAN BASED ON LIES
Ron= ONLY ONE WHO RESPECTS US CONSTITUTION, HATES NDAA & PATRIOT ACT, FIGHTS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES, WANTS YOU TO HAVE MORE FREEDOM & CHOICE, RON LOVES CAPITALISM (NOT CORPORATISM, NOT TOO BIG TO FAIL, NOT BAILOUTS, NOT SUBSIDIES, NOT FASCISM)
RON WILL BRING MONEY & JOBS BACK TO USA
halcyon0830 2 months ago
Ummm, management reserve the right to refuse whoever they want in their establishment as it stands, they don't even need to give a reason. Why am I constantly hearing this dullard's argument?
MunkiZee 2 months ago
he speaks the truth...people today realize racism is not right, and inhumane...what happened 50 years ago will not repeat itself today... Ron Paul 2012 seems like the the best choice for me
jw89 2 months ago
This is why Ron Paul gives an impression of not opposing racists and bigots.
airforcemax 2 months ago
Ron every time I try and like you, you go and do something like this and Im just worried as hell about what would happen if I voted for you.
josesbox 3 months ago
@josesbox He's the only eligible candidate.
Sylinic 3 months ago
@josesbox are you actually listening to what he's saying?
afkhajiit 2 months ago
@afkhajiit Yeah I heard him. Hes one of these people who thinks the free market can solve every problem and it cant. Your telling me it took a hundred years from the end of the civil war to the Montgomery bus boycott for the free market to take effect. How about all the black people being lynched and churches being lit on fire with people inside what did the free market do for them?
josesbox 2 months ago
I'm not racist but let me ask this: If there is a white racist restaurant owner, how does forcing him to serve blacks help end racism? Is he magically going to stop being racist? No. It only increases racial tensions. And hell yes the free market helps. Look at the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
elr456 3 months ago 2
@elr456 look at the civil rights act
liberalmike1994 1 month ago
@elr456 Racism and discrimination are not the same thing. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 made discrimination illegal. Racism is a belief, while discrimination is an action.
Tradeofjane 1 month ago
Its sorta irrelevant, because it would not be repealed by the states anytime soon. With Ron Paul as President, at least we know that he would look out for the people and not sell out to special interests... like Obama did.
parish32 3 months ago
An intelligent black man's view on Ron Paul.
watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ
Watch and learn something.
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The forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty… The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society.
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XxJasonRulesXx 3 months ago
In otherwords don't be racist... not that complicated.
MalakiaRat 4 months ago
this battle is long lost. all industries get told what to do now by the govt. so much of our economic problems nowadays has to do with regulatory uncertainty, as in, the private sector is waiting for our govt to roll out concrete regulations that dictate how the private sector can do anything. so yeah, private property is a joke. regulatory hurdles is the biggest barrier to entry in any industry.. i'd rather do business in china/mexico than u.s.
Thizzmotion 4 months ago
P.S. If you read my comments and disagree with it, don't even write me to try and discuss it and change my mind about it. It's futile and will only serve to get yourself ridiculed by all the connections I have on all the sites I've joined. How? I'll post your foolishness everywhere.....everywhere. Opinions are like assholes and since we all have one...I don't want yours.
spencet30 4 months ago
@jneil2007 The first amendment did not apply to people of my skin color at the time it was written....so do I believe in it??? I'll just say the day I see these rights applied equally across the board is the day I'll believe in them. Until then...no
spencet30 4 months ago
thank God that all those who feel the Civil Rights Act of 1964 should be repealed are not running this country.
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spencet30 4 months ago
Denying people service because you own a business and don't want to serve them is moronic and infantile. It is selfishness and ignorance to the utmost degree. I'm sure those who feel it's their God given right to treat other people as if they are substandard are those who have never been subject to such a decree. It's bad enough that my status as a citizen and human being in this country isn't even permanent law and the day that entire act is revoked is the day I will take it to the streets!!
spencet30 4 months ago
If you put up a sign on your front door that you don't want jahovah's knocking on it would you be considered racist?
mentalrudimental 4 months ago
Chris Mathews might be the worst interviewer in the business, maybe even worse than Bill O'Reilly! He never let's his guests speak for themselves because he can't sit quiet long enough for them to do so. He sucks!
U23Z26I9 4 months ago
Ron Paul is right... the Civil Rights Act only increased the racial tensions and overly increased the crimes commited by blacks. Yes, it gave them the same opportunities, even to commit crimes and strike the racism against them with more racism, against Whites.
Dreamer00JK 5 months ago
it is obvious that the people who are against ron paul on this issue does no undersand their logical fallacies with regard to Paul's arguments.
There are two key assumptions here:
1. voting against the Civil Rights Act is wrong because it is the only way to "end racism"
2. since you vote against something that stops racism, then you must be a racist.
NOTICE that argument #2 rests ENTIRELY on argument #1.
Fact: the Civil Rights Act is NOT the only way to "end racism"
MrBigEnchilada 5 months ago 2
You can't use government to change people's opinions. The Civil Rights Act, while repealing the Jim Crow Laws (which should have been done decades before), allowed blacks to shop in racist white owned businesses. If someone's a racist and wants to freely admit they are racist, I say let them do it. It would make it easier to identify the backwoods morons in this country. (I'm looking at you, bill o'reilly)
killsourenemy 5 months ago
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These reply comments are funny. Why all the name calling? "you retard" " you ass wipe" "you ass-raider" "you pigeon shit" I never learned to use that in debates, but i guess that's how arguments are won online, skip the topic of the debate throw insults and whichever one sounds the best wins.
born912 5 months ago
Market Forces have NEVER in the history of man brought social justice. Paul wants to justify his unrepentant racism
pete3great 5 months ago
More MSNBC half truth progoganda BS. Fuck off Chris Matthews.
MrJoSWilson 6 months ago 2
@MrJoSWilson Your an idiot.
pjmgame 5 months ago 5
@pjmgame You honestly like that liberal scumbag Chris? You're the idiot.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago 2
@Yabuturtle So basically if I own a store and place a sign "whites only" the federal government should have not get involved?????? WOW!!! So the federal government should not get involved in ENDING racism?????
pjmgame 5 months ago
@pjmgame No it shouldn't. Because the Federal government has no authority to do so. Do I tell YOU who to do business with? It's your private business. You do what you want with it. You can't end racism you idiot. There will always be racism just like there will always be drugs. Telling people who to do business with won't end it, there will still be racist people regardless what the Federal government does. But knowing how not many people like racism, you wouldn't see those signs anyway.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago
@Yabuturtle You can't end racism if you DON'T MAKE A EFFORT TO END IT!!!! Laws are ENFORCED by the police. You disobey, you go to jail. DO YOU GET THAT????
pjmgame 5 months ago
@pjmgame No I don't get it because it doesn't make any fucking sense. Someone should not go to jail because they want to deal with certain people. You can't make someone be moral. You can't take away people's rights to be assholes. Stop shouting it doesn't make your point anymore credible, it just makes you sound like a loud mouthed buffoon trying to act smart. You can't end racism anymore than you can end drugs. the War on drugs failed. Still people using drugs, so I've mad my point now.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago
@Yabuturtle That wasn't my point. My point is is that the voting against the Civil Rights Act is WRONG because your basically saying black people are not equal to white people.
pjmgame 5 months ago
@pjmgame Words cannot express how much ignorant you are. You need to realize this. It's not mandated in the Constitution. The Federal government has no authority to tell you who to do business with. Therefore it's unconstitutional. When did I say that black people are not equal to whites? And furthermore, there's other races besides white and black you know. All I'm saying is if a person doesn't want asians or blacks ect in his store, he has the right. Go to another store if you don't like it.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago
@pjmgame Words cannot express how ignorant you are. You need to realize this. It's not mandated in the Constitution. The Federal government has no authority to tell you who to do business with. Therefore it's unconstitutional. When did I say that black people are not equal to whites? And furthermore, there's other races besides white and black you know. All I'm saying is if a person doesn't want asians or blacks ect in his store, he has the right. Go to another store if you don't like it.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago
@Yabuturtle So you believe that there should be segreated schools? The Federal Government MUST DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! Segeration and allowing anti-race in your stores IS ILLEGAL. 14th Amendment.
pjmgame 5 months ago
last time i checked, racism still exists. Ron Paul isnt a racist. He is one who cherishes human lives and wants them to have their full freedom and liberty. How quickly we forget what REAL racism entails. Amazing.
aucaleb2 6 months ago
It's more about who makes the rules, not about the rules themselves. The federal government should not control private businesses. Mr. Paul has this stance on many issues, most do NOT involve race, like education and marriage. It's just NOT the feds job.
Filghtscool 6 months ago
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@EdMan2012
"what business would survive in today's society & economy by discriminating potential customers? "
The most obvious answer is Abercrombien Fitch. The key is discrimination is sometimes profitable...
"And what government services would be replaced by the private sector?"
Schools, high ways, libraries, and all the services that lose funding all the time.
Look up all the businesses that already are discriminating despite the fact it's against the law..
DrGooUnact 6 months ago
Ron Paul also said he would have never voted for Jim Crow laws. He also offered 100 dollars of his own pocket to help pay for the Congressional Medal of Honor given to Rosa Parks. How can someone like that be racist?? The answer: HE CAN'T. Ron Paul IS NOT RACIST. He said this because it felt like it conflicted with property rights not because he is racist.
elr456 6 months ago
If blacks owned a family restaurant or nightclub they should be able to refuse service to whites as well, especially if those whites come into their place of business with neo-nazi tatoos or were overheard conversing derogatorily about blacks while in the restaurants. It's a PRIVATE business.
I wouldn't expect black fraternity or social club to invite me to join nor would I sue them for rejecting me on the basis of my race.
This is just stupid. "Liberals" love to demagogue the race issue.
EdMan2012 6 months ago
The Civil War ended in 1865; the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964. If the free market was going to end Jim Crow, it had 99 years and it failed.
dblari 6 months ago 37
@dblari No don't you see? He really exclaims that that was in the past that racism doesnt exist on a structual level, now even private businesses are able to frelly discriminate, He either believes this lie, or doesn't care,
I'd vote for him either way, hopefully he'll tear down this rapacious Capitalist-imperialist system, Whether he doesn it knowingly or not
kaleo183rd 6 months ago
@dblari Except that the mass boycotts during the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s played a decisive role in the abolition of the Jim Crow laws. The free market took a plunge when a significant amount of people decided that laws restricting the sales of products to individuals of a certain ethnicity are repugnant.
killsourenemy 5 months ago
@killsourenemy I remember the Montgomery Bus Boycott of 1955. Can you point to some other boycotts of whites only businesses?
dblari 5 months ago
@dblari 1. government shouldn't have instituted jim crow in the first place 2. government cant change the way 'people think. it's not as if the civil rights act got rid of racism; it's merely a piece of legislation. it was the people of america, fueled by dr. king and the civil rights movement, who improved race relations in this country.
chromifox 4 months ago
@dblari Jim Crow was not de jure law. It was de facto and it continued in the die-hard southern racists for many years after the Civil Rights Act. Times were changing, and the idea of the melting pot was becoming more acceptable. The Free Market did end Jim Crow, just not "officially" or by "decree" at any precise moment by any one man..
hitlerscow 4 months ago
@dblari You are wrong. If slavery was truly ended then there would have been no Jim Crow laws or black codes. You can repeal those laws without infringing on property rights. That is what Paul is arguing. He is saying the free market will take care of racist shop owners, who under the 1st ammendment have the right to be racist. Not that the free market would end segregation.
jneil2007 4 months ago
@jneil2007 "who under the 1st ammendment have the right to be racist"
There's a huge difference between free-speech and hate-speech. I'm glad I'm from UK where racists are punished/fined accordingly. I was a victim of racism at school, and if it wasn't for anti-racism laws, I would've probably killed myself. There's something fundamentally wrong with America, especially this notion of 'freedom of speech'. I think the Founding fathers did not specify it further, that free-speech is for criticism
heavymetaldeath4life 3 months ago
@dblari The government stopped it from happening. That's why they were called the Jim Crow *Laws*. That's the opposite of the free markets.
shamgar001 3 months ago
@dblari How can the free market end Jim Crow when Jim Crow is a law itself? Paul is saying he would have repealed the Jim Crow laws SO THAT segregation would end in a free market setting where property rights were protected as well.
RKAddict101 2 months ago
the scarier thought is that they are interested in scaling down the government.
So, there could potentially be a bunch of legally racist businesses taking over the services of things that once were offered by the Government...
DrGooUnact 6 months ago
@DrGooUnact
"So, there could potentially be a bunch of legally racist businesses taking over the services of things that once were offered by the Government..."
What? First, tell me what business would survive in today's society & economy by discriminating potential customers? What business would survive the bad publicity of a public boycott? And what government services would be replaced by the private sector? And why do assume they'll be run by racists? Lot of presumptions on your part.
EdMan2012 6 months ago
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DrGooUnact 6 months ago
Paul's argument is crap. The reason why today it would appear "stupid" for a store owner to put up a whites only sign is specifically because the legislation helped change attitudes. It was part of a cultural revolution/evolution which brought about more acceptance of African descendents. These attitudes would not have changed if integration was only mandatory for government institutions. The civil rights act, at least as much as the emancipation proclamation "liberated" and entire people.
timpipe 6 months ago
@timpipe Agree. To take it further, the kind of property rights that Paul seeks to "protect" by repealing things like the Civil Rights Act don't need protection. One can already freely discriminate with one's business. Private clubs can discriminate based on things like race, gender, disability, etc. The only thing that the CRA does is say that business open to the public must serve the entire public.
uglybunny 6 months ago
@timpipe The emancipation proclamation didn't liberate an "entire people." It only freed slaves that were in seceded southern states, not the border states.
adamrussek123 6 months ago
paul knows exactly what matthews is trying to do.
kristoferfir 6 months ago
@kristoferfir Call him out on his blatant racism and hypocrisy!
SJT9791 6 months ago
Ron Paul's #1 reason why he'll never be president!
SJT9791 6 months ago
Wow, what the hell is the problem, all Ron Paul is saying is that rather than introducing new laws to ban segregation he would have repealed laws that allowed segregation in the first place. We would have reached the same conclusion through different methods, thats all, it does not mean he's racist!
J3rEmY17 6 months ago 3
@J3rEmY17 You're clearly not an intelligent person.
SJT9791 6 months ago
@SJT9791 And your clearly retarded, the constitution already protects EVERYBODY there is no reason to introduce new laws that try to enforce morality, laws are not supposed to do that and they do it ineffectively. Jim Crow laws were illegal in the first place... are you arguing that they were not?
J3rEmY17 6 months ago
@J3rEmY17 THANK YOU! Too many people on here aren't thinking deeper and analyzing what Ron Paul is saying. He wouldn't have voted for the Jim Crow laws in the first place. Also to the top commenter, the Civil War was not about racism or slavery. The South was being taxed to death so they got pissed and seceded. One good example of what Ron Paul is saying is the Montgomery Bus Boycott. That didn't turn out too well for the racist whites now did they?
elr456 3 months ago
"Dur hur Ron is stupid even though I'm not going to explain why." Ok LISTEN this time and let me educate you. Pay attention. The 1964 Civil Rights Act is inherently unconstitutional. It tells private business owners that they can not choose who they want to do business with. How would you feel if the government told you you had to marry someone you did not choose? The federal government has no authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please.
Yabuturtle 6 months ago
@Yabuturtle You can't take away people's rights to be assholes. That doesn't make Ron racist. But people don't think before they say something? Basically Ron is saying that people have a right to be an asshole, and it's a PRIVATE business. The Federal Government has no right to tell you who you can allow in a private place. He said since racism is so frowned upon today, no business is not going to discriminate, because if he won't allow blacks in, whites won't go either because of the racism.
Yabuturtle 6 months ago
@Yabuturtle I meant to say no business is going to discriminate because racism is frowned upon. You don't need a law like this. the government can't teach you to be moral, it can't make you a better person and it can't make you follow good habits. We didn't need a federal law for this? Don't you guys even know what the Federal government is supposed to do at all? Didn't you do any homework? Most of Ron's policies make sense anyway, he's a thousand times better than Obama and the others.
Yabuturtle 6 months ago
@Yabuturtle It wasn't in the 1960s.
SJT9791 6 months ago
@Yabuturtle So, if a business owner says he doesn't want to do business with me because I'm black or hispanic or asian or white even, that's okay? Government shouldn't be allowed to tell him he can't do that? Wow!
spencet30 5 months ago 17
@spencet30 Yes! Because it's MY business! The Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional. The Federal government has no right to tell you who you can do business with you. But as Ron said if you paid any attention at all, there wouldn't be any signs because not only racism is frowned upon today, but the person would lose money by losing more customers.
Yabuturtle 5 months ago 3
@spencet30 It's the price of liberty. you can't expect to be in a country that prides itself on freedom without expecting freedom. i may not agree with it, because i know how screwed up people will be, but it's freedom none the less.
Orisainla 4 months ago
@spencet30
In today's society, how many business do you think would remain viable if that was their policy? Think about it man. You can't just walk into a TV station and say I want to be on TV because they enforce their property rights. Why should any other business establishment be different? If some idiot wants to segregate his store to whites only, the public would show their disdain by not spending money there and that business owner would be forced to change his policy or close.
ColdAsHe11 4 months ago
@spencet30 If you believe in the first ammendment you have the right to deny ANYBODY service if it is your property. When it comes to government buildings everybody is protected because it is everybody's building. I think that is very logical.
jneil2007 4 months ago
@jneil2007 (continued)....for criticism rather than pure intention to deliver psychological stress.
heavymetaldeath4life 3 months ago
@spencet30 Government should not be allowed to tell the PRIVATE sector what to do.
armedyboyedik1995 4 months ago
@spencet30 Yes! if that business owner actually did that to you, you can yelp the shit out of him! his business would get negative reviews from other blacks n hispanics, and after a while that business would close down by popular demand!!! it's called private property homie!!!! think about it, what if it was ur house? all private property is the same! house/club/bar/hospital= private property= government needs to fuck off!
Thizzmotion 4 months ago
@spencet30
Exactly. WHY would you WANT to give a racist money for his product? You in that way would be supporting racism. Why not give freedom and liberty a try in a 'free country '(by name only)
khanmar 3 months ago
@spencet30 why should someone have to hire anyone? If you have put time and effort into making your business; shouldn't you be able to hire who you like? Who's business is it, the peoples, or the person who started the business? Basically what you are saying is, if someone doesn't like black people, he should have to hire them anyway. Why would someone want to work for someone who is racist? I don't really get it..
Fight4Canada 3 months ago
@spencet30 He'll eventually go bankrupt since minorities wouldn't be shopping there along with many whites.
elr456 3 months ago
@spencet30 Yes the Government shouldn't be allowed to because that's forcing people to allow people into their private property, and they Government doesn't have any power to force you to do that.
untouchable15100 2 months ago
@spencet30 Yep. Thats true. IT seems harsh, but once we give them that, then they have control in all other areas of the business (racial quotas, who we hire, etc.) and thats how socialism starts. Socialism (in a nut shell) is the government controlling business and citizens, thats what this (civil rights act) essentially is. But think about, if they ban blacks and blacks have money, and their competitors allow blacks, they'll change eventually because of profit loss.
baller84milw 2 months ago
@spencet30 Of course it's okay. If you own an apple, shouldn't you be able to decide who you're going to sell it to? If you're not able to choose who you sell it to, do you really own that apple? If government is going to force you to do something with property you own, is it really your property?
RKAddict101 2 months ago 2
@RKAddict101 That theory only works if everybody was free to own apples and not owned by the apple eaters.
EandA23 1 month ago
@EandA23 Are you say everyone is not free to own apples?
RKAddict101 1 month ago
@RKAddict101 yes
liberalmike1994 1 month ago
@spencet30 exactly. But that makes the business owner racist, not government or Ron Paul.
chicagomike88 2 months ago
@spencet30 What if that business is a hospital or a apartment complex....???
freein2339 2 months ago
I think the "whites only" sign at the laundromat was talking about the color of the clothes they want you to use their machines for.
fooschmack 6 months ago
Also, Ron Paul was willing to put in $100 out of his own pocket to pay for Rosa Parks's Congressional Medal. He told this to all the representatives. All would put in 100 bucks to pay for the gold medal. Not a single representative took him up on his offer despite the starting pay for congressmen being 174K a year. Ron Paul is not racist. Don't misconstrue his strict interpretations of the Constitution as racist. They're not.
elr456 6 months ago
@elr456
>>Don't misconstrue his strict interpretations of the Constitution as racist.
It was the interpretation of the constitution which ended segregation and served as the basis for the civil rights act.
>>Ron Paul is not racist.
Whether or not he is, his racist policy would be little comfort to the disadvantaged who need the provisions of affirmative action to have any shot at a decent job. I suppose you can tell the underpaid black janitor to buckle up, business owners need freedom.
kDest 6 months ago
Yeah, it would never happen today. Racism just magically stopped existing ten years ago. We have no new racial enemies *cough*Obama Muslim*cough*. We are such a benevolent and just people *cough*Arab and Muslim hatred, distrust and fear*cough*. Why hurt property owners *cough*Mexican immigrants and gays*cough*?
People stupid like Paul never learn from history no matter how many people get hurt.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest Today is no different than 1964 where you are concerned. Racisim is not gone nobody with a brain would say it is. Amazing strides have been made in the last 40 years. You can see it in mixed realationships but aparantly you can't. Yes a black man is president does that wipe away all bad deeds no not in any way, does it show improvement hell yes it does. Sorry the world doesn't turn on a dime for you but things do change looking at history as an Italian I know how it was
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>You can see it in mixed realationships but aparantly you can't.
You are mistaking your environment for the whole nation. Our nation is heterogeneous in cultural distribution and values. For example, if you are gay, you do not want to be in Mississippi. Laws exist to even out our values, to lift backwards areas up to our standards.
>>you would have to be blind
It is not sufficient. Like I said, heterogeneous distribution of values. Their values do not affect the south as much.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest As far as Mexicans and Arabs are concerned you would have to be blind to not see the oposition movement against the things you speak of. Nothing will ever be good enough for you & for that I pitty you. What the hell is wrong with property rights I guess the government should own everything. We tried it once it didn't work then & it wont work now
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>What the hell is wrong with property rights
I should ask you why you have a problem with government keeping businesses safe towards society. Do you wish to employ children? Keep slaves? Make your employees work in unsafe conditions? These laws exist to keep businesses from being tyrants. Only two centuries ago it would be absurd to ban slavery. A slave was property.
>>I guess the government should own everything
You own your business, you just can't discriminate. Why is this bad?
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest History shows children were leaving the work force before the law, because as people were doing better their children didn't need to work. Just as it will be in 3rd world nations where they still do. Osha showed a graph showing how the work place became safer, look back a few years it was rising no faster than it already was. Slavery was on a decline all over the world the southern US was behind the curve. But still ahead of Africa. I work for profit I wouldn't cut customers of any race
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
First it required that education was mandatory for children. A law would be ineffective if children had no place to go. It also required free education, hence the public school system. Also, it required labor unions to make living conditions better for workers.
>>I work for profit
Children and slaves are the most profitable workforce. That is why they were so hard to eliminate from it. Other nations need free education and mandatory schooling, and labor unions.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest The highest prosperity the US has ever experience was the end of the 19th to the beginning of the 20th century mandatory education started in 1918. People didn't send their children off to work because they hated them it was done due to necessity just as 3rd world countries today. I find it hard to believe you buy in to union propaganda at best unions have never been higher than 25% of the work force not enough to effect change when you have more work than workers wages & standard of
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>highest prosperity
In those days it meant a handful of people were prosperous while the vast majority had little to call their own.
>>it was done due to necessity
Paying employees insufficiently created that necessity.
>>I find it hard to believe you buy in to union propaganda
It isn't propaganda. Business owners care nothing for their workers. This is what history shows us as they would gun them down and impoverish them. Unions gave workers a voice they never had before.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest Now we are going to talk about violence let me guess the unions aren't responsible for any violence. How about the racism that are unions Davis Bacon act we need a law because companies are using cheap black labor. Business owners care about productivity not people, wages were rising before unions. You don't make decisions your self big business does it for you & you are one of those people who believe 9/11 was an inside job right?
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>the unions aren't responsible for any violence
The general moral rule is that between two parties using violence, the oppressor is inexcusable while the oppressed may be excused.
>>Business owners care about productivity not people
Exactly.
>>wages were rising before unions
Very, very slowly.
>>Living in your world must be a bitch
That you need to create false positions to attack them says that you did not understand anything I said.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah no violence We are done. keep believing the redorick
sintruder 6 months ago
@kDest living improves. Productivity is the key to a better life style. Yes I work for profit in a skilled industry children or slaves wouldn't help me in the slightest
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>Productivity is the key to a better life style
Depends how you define each of those qualifiers. Productivity to factories means long work days with no healthcare or retirement. Better lifestyle often means for the owners of the factories, not the workers.
>>people need or want
The history of business is to create false needs. A problem looking for a solution. The diamond industry is an excellent example of this, so is the bottled water industry.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest Living in your world must be a bitch, nothing good ever happens there unless the government says it's ok. Even then they are corupt, racists no wait we are all racists, because the MAJORITY position is racisim. I am sick of talking with you you are a sick twisted person who would argue the color of the sky. We are done!
sintruder 6 months ago
@kDest Profit comes from providing a good or service that people need or want NO company can survive with out providing those 2 things, unless government is willing to spend YOUR money to keep them alive.
sintruder 6 months ago
This is partly why Ron Paul will never be president. He doesn't know how to compromise his party's ideology for the good of society. He doesn't care about "freedom." He cares about property rights. That is the libertarian ideology: unlimited property rights no matter how badly it hurts society.
He should be ashamed of supporting such a bad idea, and then to revise history to support himself. Segregation and slavery existed because the people wanted it. It was mob rule versus minorities.
kDest 6 months ago
The question & this video are a joke. No publicly owned property should discriminate. If privately owned wants to be stupid enough to do such things it should be their right but they don't get public money to keep them in business when they fail because of it. The racism of 1964 wouldn't survive today because the people IE the customers wouldn't stand for it. The opinions of the people changed, but not because of law. This was done for ratings not to expose a racist
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>No publicly owned property should discriminate.
Right. It hurts society to do so.
>>If privately owned wants to be stupid enough
If it is bad for government, then it is bad for business. Don't make a double standard, especially when you know it won't be one lone business that discriminates, it will be many of them, and they will use their position to segregate towns.
Why do you think segregation laws existed? People wanted them. Business owners would accomplish the same.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest Publicly owned means owned by the citizens there for there is no citizen who shouldn't be able to use it. Do you believe there are businesses who don't want to make money? This is not 1964 the climate has changed there are minorities who hold power & make good money. I am a small business owner I opened my business to make money, money is an equalizer because I don't care what color the person handing me the money is. You wont be a business owner long if you don't think that way.
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>Publicly owned means owned by the citizens there for there is no citizen who shouldn't be able to use it.
This isn't about property. If segregation makes a government harmful to society, which is the basis of why we don't want it... then it must do the same thing to businesses. If businesses can do do it, then you are arguing that government should be able to as well. Property arguments are just a distraction from this fact.
kDest 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>money is an equalizer
No it isn't. Ask any bigot who won't employ women. Actually, just look at how much women make compared to men. If money was a great equalizer they would make the same wages, and segregation wouldn't have existed.
>>You wont be a business owner long if you don't think that way.
History says you are wrong. Why should I trust you to be ethical towards society when a law will keep you honest, and give me recourse when you screw up?
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest You are all over the map which subject do you want to talk about? You have more faith in law than people. Do you think jail is why humans don't kill each other? Racisim is not gone, it never will be but as society changes things get better if you think we are all children & if a law isn't passed we wont know what to do I think you are close minded. As far as gender wage is concerned do you have a link because everything I have read is all over the place because it's not per hour
sintruder 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>You are all over the map which subject do you want to talk about?
You wrote so many arguments, which I felt the need to comment upon.
>>You have more faith in law than people. Do you think jail is why humans don't kill each other?
Yes. Law is a big reason why our society is stable and relatively safe. You can validate this by contrasting states with impotent governments, or lawlessness. Opportunistic crime occurs rampantly there. Our law keeps many people straight.
kDest 6 months ago
@sintruder
>>if a law isn't passed we wont know what to do I think you are close minded
That is not my position. My position is simple: if you allow discrimination in the workplace and business, then it will increase in frequency until it segregates towns and cities.
>>do you have a link
A quick search of google shows many links on the subject. I found one by Hilary M. Lips, entitled "The Gender Wage Gap" on Women's Media.
Basically there is a gap, and it rises and falls with men's wages.
kDest 6 months ago
@kDest People kill each other law or no law it's a moral issue. The military says that the problem they have is getting soldiers to pull the trigger something they are trained to do. We are older than the laws yet we all exsist because for a primate to kill another primate go against the genetic code. I think it should be against the law & we do need laws. That would be my biggest complaint with Obama contract laws are very important. As far as wage women need to ask for more just like Lips said
sintruder 6 months ago