@Quaiowe snow has too many variables...is it wet heavy slush? icy? Ive seen cars left on the road and an hour later once it became slushy I drove my camaro past the parked cars on the road...got mine stuck a couple times but a road test isnt a snow test
@TheBjmr Ooh it works my freind. Just not as the rest of the world wants it to. It wont get u out of parkinglots, up a slope, or out of the ditch, it may even get u in one.
@7150285 I had typed out a long-ass reply only to have my phone not let me post it- the original "All-Trac" system from Toyota was a three-differential system and came in one of two flavors. There was the sport version, which used a viscous center coupling as the center diff, and the less-sport flavor used by the Camry series used a manual locked/unlocked center diff. When locked, there is a perfect 50/50 torque split between the front and rear differentials.
They're using different makes and brand. It's not a equal fair comparison. A FWD can be made to handle almost as good, usually when you're talking lower hp range, like under 300hp or so. Look at touring car races. But In most cases in the real world, AWD is superior to FR or FF, because we experience different road conditions, whether its wet or bumpy. It sure isn't smooth like a race track. Look at WRC. Even in tarmac only races the AWD dominates.
I prefer AWD, thats why i have a Infinti G35x AWD, handles excellent in the snow where my front wheel drive Maxima would have got stuck or struggled, Mine reverts to RWD automatically when AWD is not needed, on start its 25% front 75% rear then reverts to 0% front 100% rear, it auto detects slip and uses traction control and AWD up to 50% front 50% rear, or if i think its needed i hit a switch in my car to make it 50/50 split
Thats just silly. The traction is determent by how much grip the tyres have, not by FWD, RWD or 4x4. By the way, understeering is not safer than oversteering. I'd rather come out of the curve front first than ass first..
@haraldhonda if your a good driver you can hold the over steer and come out of the corner just fine when in a fwd car youd hear DGDGDGDGDGD as your front wheels are being scuffed in the ditch
@7150285 Yes, the rear wheels of an AWD car will lock up if you engage the handbrake while in motion. Parking brakes do not use ABS as they're intended to be used when the car is stationary. AWD cannot stop wheel lockup. I'm just rather annoyed by the bizarre attitude towards vehicle safety in these video comments. Public road driving is not racing and certainly not touge, and all those "fun" things people talk about doing with their RWD cars on ice are dangerous, not to mention illegal.
@tankermottind I think ur overthinking a lil bit...i was just simply wondering if the rear wheels of a AWD vehicle will lock up if the transmission is put in "Park" WHEN the vehicle is stationary and turned off!!...so it can be towed safely with its transmission put in Park. Get it?
front weell drive is easier to drive for most of drivers. Most of the people don't go to circuits and they drive for necesity...for them, it's better a FWD or a 4x4.
alot of butthurt AWD and FWD fanboys here,can't accept the fact that RWD is just the king of the road? which car does the most burnout and drifts? yeah BMW. just keep hating and getting stocked in you shitty AWD and FWD sytems while we RW drivers shit on you all.
What a waste of comparison. In the round-about, the BMW had traction control keeping the ass in check, the audi had all the tortion on the outside wheels due to its awd system, the FWD has an open differential, no traction control, OF COURSE It's going to understeer. AWD is good for daily life, but it consumes more gas as you have more rotational mass to power (an extra pumpkin), RWD is great for handling..but it kinda fails in the slip, especially snow, I feel FWD is more balanced for daily..
@Amidat Without a doubt. There's much less rotational mass when you don't have to have the long, drive shaft, rear diff, rear axles, , the 4WD trans on AWD cars, etc. I didn't mean to sound like it wasn't the most fuel efficient. Their evaluation is...half correct, yes, the FWD WILL understeer first..but it's also the most practical for day to day use. The AWD, while very practical, will inevitably consume more fuel, and the RWD works great until it snows, but will consume more fuel than FF.
I could not believe that everyone is constantly talking about driving on the snow. Does all the humanity live on the north pole? Where i live last time it snowed was 25 years ago. 99% of the kilometres i drive are over tarmac, so i am no worried at all about how a car handles in snow. More important than the type of traction is to use winter tires to those that are so worried to drive over the snow everyday
Gosh i never seen so much controversy over drive trains. everybody kno FWD is the worst in any weather condition. RWD is second best and 4x4 is best hands down. Personally ive owned FWD and 4x4. drove both in snow. 4in.+. and the FWD slippin n slidin everywhere. could bearly take off from a red light. havnt slid once in the 4x4. to back that up just look at the news next time it snows. u will only see FWD cars spinnin out in the snow stuck on flat ground lol.
@Lilmiket1000 now you just show again your lack of experience in snowey condition...it mean you have never tried a cbination of both in bad condition... and yoou cant unerstand that 4x4 is not the best in snowy condition....AWD is the best in snow, then 4wd then 4x4 then FWD then RWD...it is just common sense i dont understand how people dont figure this 1 . so plz stop posting wrong info on internet... go get more exprience in snow then come back to talk
@godzillaisnuclea123 well awd is ether selectable or full time, which mean it can runs on pavement and at any given speed, withut cuasing harm on pwertrain
4x4 is for most of the time only selectable is not recommend for pavement or speed abve 100kph, but is has more traction and low end troque than awd, more tough generally
you will find 4wd or 4wd on small car like subaru or toyota matrix or suv
@l337pwnage Rofl, front wheel dirve have way more use then rear wheel drive car... better MPG and handling, better traction.... real wheel drive car are useless in ice or snow.. while some front wheel drive cant outclass ome 4x4 in winter...get your fact right
@CedrikTheManiac00 I've beat 4x4's off the line in the snow with my old beater firebird, lol.
I was recently behind a POS FWD car going around a corner at about 5 MPH, and even going that slow he couldn't stop from spinning out. I had to stop while he drove up over the curb to straighten out.
FWD is a cheap economy design, that is all it is good for.
They handle EXTREMELY poorly because they have to have the majority of their weight on the front.
@l337pwnage i dont give a fuck about this stupid exemple made in the uk were they never sees snow..
here 4wd and rear wheel drive have about 30% more chance then be in accident then a frwd.....
seriously dont try man, i drive front wheel drive and rear wheel drive, in snow , you dont, so stop saying things
YOU THINK are true but in in the end , your in the ditch...your like a guy who say a plane is better then another but who never even been in a plane...
@CedrikTheManiac00 I've driven plenty of FWDs, but I'm sure I'd never be cheap enough to own one. Unless you wanna count my CJ cuz I took off the rear drive shaft, lol.
On pavement in snow, FWD is better in the straights, worse in the corners. RWD is the opposite.
But on dry pavement, RWD always handles better than FWD.
We don't get much snow here, but one time we got 17" in one night and I had to drive through it with my Trans Am to work to plow snow. I will admit the tranny got hot, lol.
@CedrikTheManiac00 Rear wheel drive are fun to drive in ice or snow -- not the stupid FWD which is boring as hell.... the handling is better with RWD -- Ferrari, McLaren, Zonda, Koenigsegg, SLR, Corvette - this are the cars with worse handling and worse traction than FWD cars ?? Ohhhh I didn't know that .... FWD is shit !! Get your fact right...
@wyrazowfkp dude, your gona drive a corvette or a mclaren in snow? YOUR RETARDED KID GO TO SLEEP... where talking handling in snow condition... all the cars you name cant even be drive in winter....fucking retarded kid with no education....
@CedrikTheManiac00 Who is talking about handling in snow ? The test isn't in snow. And handling depends on weight, mass distribution, engine power, suspension construction % others. The RWD cars are the strongest cars produced .... there are no factory FWD cars that have 400, 500, 600 or more HP... because that will be shit as hell. You can drive them in winter .... Maybe not ice and mountains - but you can. I drive a RWD car in the winter and this is normal -sometimes fun to powerslide
@CedrikTheManiac00 I don't know what retarded means -- but I guess you're not nice. I'll check that in dictionary because English is not my country language. And I have more education in cars than you - sorry... All not 4x4 BMW and Mercedes (not A and B class woman-shopping carts) have REAR WHEEL DRIVE and I see them everyday. How is that possible in the winter ? Rear wheel drive cars have superb traction -- all your knowledge is based on a old open-diff live axle pickups ? Or russian Lada's
@wyrazowfkp Thanks for completely missing what FWD cars are designed to be. Most FWD cars are designed to be utilitarian, cost-effective, and most of all SAFE transportation for ordinary people. 600 HP on a family sedan makes as much sense as square wheels. FWD and AWD have overwhelming safety advantages over RWD, especially for drivers who don't have performance driving skills (the vast majority). Most drivers don't want to have "fun", they want the car to go where it's pointed with no drama.
@tankermottind They are designed to be cost-effective, utlitarian and to be boring as hell. This is like a washing machine - maybe practical - but no more, nothing special and nothing interesting. SAFE - with this weight balance - that's not safe. Who said understeer is SAFE ? When a driver with no skills will loose control of his vehicle - he won't be able to do anything. People who drive a RWD are not affraid of loosing control of the car in very bad weather conditions and know what to do ..
@wyrazowfkp It's more safe than the car rotating violently and possibly rolling over, that's for sure. Understeer makes easier a non-performance-trained driver's natural instinct when running out of traction: to SLOW DOWN as quickly as possible. Lose enough velocity and the front end will come right back around. In an RWD car this can cause lift-off oversteer, which is dangerous even for a professional.
FWD is an excellent drive train for commuter cars, which is why most commuter cars have it.
@wyrazowfkp: As a corollary, FWD is of course not so good for high-powered sports cars, which is why such cars usually don't have FWD. But judging all cars by the standard of high-speed performance is stupid, because that's not really a design goal for most cars.
Should have tested a SUBARU. The only true all wheel drive car. Even Deborah Harry sang about aliens that eat SUBARU's.(Rapture)..they must know something about the best all wheel drive cars on earth.
why is it said that front wheel drive is safer? I have always driven rear wheel drive cars apart from the car I am driving now (civic type r) and i dont feel safe when going around corners at high speed in it. I dont like driving it on the motorway either.
It could just be that I am too used to rear wheel drive though.
@greenbrucelee Front wheel drive cars are only safer because its impossible to drive them at higher speed and when cornering faster, they are 'safer' only since they perform poorly in those conditions for people to want to make a go of it.
@ScubaSteveM45 lol? you have way more handling cornering in a front wheel drive then a rear wheel drive.. Rear wheel dive is the worts for a perfrmance car who goes on a track... they are gd on a drag, useless in turns, fornt wheel drive handle better than real wheel drive, SPECIALLY on corners
haha please. theres a woman driving and they took a fuckn alpha for a car comparison...please, an alpha? you could as well compare a fwd volvo to a awd forklift...stupid video
@trainlinezoo Are you buying a car for driveing on snow or a car for fun, speed, looks? Buy a pick up or suv or go live in a place where its not as snowy.
@rahimBB AWD is just plain better. Whatever the car is - it should be law that they are offered in AWD as an extra option. The weather where I live changes quickly on any day it likes. Floods can happen at anytime and if you see the water you better be able to go overland to get to higher ground - try doing that in Camaro. When Chrysler started selling the 300C in AWD it became a global hoopty with class.
@Amidat Every car should be offered AWD as an option. There's no way to drive a FWD car in deep snow and it can come down real fast on the east coast. They need to develop a magnetic clutch for the AWD cars that prevents the drive shaft to the rear wheels from spinning when it's not in use. It's alot to ask of a 2.0L engine to move the car from a dead stop as it is and then to ask it to spin a heavy drive shaft for no real reason is not efficient enough. It's just extra drag that can be X'd.
@trainlinezoo Are you buying a car for driveing on snow only or a car for fun, speed, looks? Buy a pick up or suv or go live in a place where its not as snowy.
@trainlinezoo well she did say assuming you DONT live on a snowdonian hillside, which would be better. rear wheel wins everytime in 90% of road driving scenarios.
@atourdeforce I'm not sure what the issue is really. 4000 people die every day in car related accidents. Why take chances and try to predict what driving conditions are going to be every day. Sooner or later people have to drive in snow, uphill, on ice, up hill. Given a choice at the time and being able to afford the extra cost in paper money - get the AWD version of whatever vehicle and you will not be sorry. RWD may be more fun and FWD more stable but nothing beats a multi-setting AWD car.
@trainlinezoo rwd is more fun,but its also a hell of a lot more stable than fwd,an awd.most people do not drive on snow often i live in ireland which is a cold climate and i maybe drive on snow 2-3 days a year.in normal regular driving which as i stated about 90% of the time you are safer with rwd, as understeer is the culprit for loss of car control, oversteer is much more managable as she said it also has a habit of keeping the car in the same relative direction, therefore any understeer isnt
@atourdeforce good and while not as bad as fwd you still get 50-60% as much understeer in awd as you do in fwd. all have there place im not trying to say it doesnt have a place when driving on snow, ice ect ect. i was simply saying in fairness to the girl she did say UNLESS you live on a snowdonain hillside, i.e somewhere it snows and ices alot it is safer to use rwd. thats was the exact thing she was trying to point out in this clip that its a surprise to most people but true.
Respond to this video... it would not be benificial to get awd unless you drove on snow over a couple of months in the year, and if driving rwd on the snow the logical thing to do would be slow down and pay more attention. also tyre chains would be a very good investment. however if your trying to say you prefer awd, well that is a different story, but it doesnt mean you are correct.
HELP! in my engineering class, we made little cars with gearboxes run by small motors. we have 2 challenges, tug a war our opponents car and pulling some books up a ramp. we can either use front or rear. Which is better? We only go in straight lines in both challenges. Each team has different gear ratios; my gear ratio is around the middle of my class, slightly more towards the speed side. tug o war: front of the cars pointing away, Ramp: front of the car pointing up the ramp. please help.
Well, that´s not the truth... uphill RWD cars have advantage due to the changing position of the center of gravity (getting uphill means that the COG goes backwards, where the traction is needed).
On the straight line and in corners you have to be careful with the accelerator, but at least you do have more chance to keep the car on the road. You might need both lanes, yeah, but hey - I´d prefer emergency drifting way more than just slipping straight into incoming trafic!
@King19840805 wtf are you talking about???? man seriously stop posting things on youtube when you say what other people say arent truth while YOU are in the ditch...front wheel drive car with outclass any rear wheel drive car uphi in icy or snowy condition.. you dont need to argue on this, it is like that, beside i have 1000x time more experience then you in those condition. so plz dont argue on it... no need
@CedrikTheManiac00 never heard of physics, right? when accelerating / going uphill the weight distribution changes to the back end of the car, that´s why you do have more traction with RWD.
Dude, that´s the same principle why you need a limited slip diff for cornering quickly, because the outside wheels have more weight (= traction) than the inside wheels - that´s why they tend to slip.
That´s the basics, thanks to Sir Isaac Newton ;-)
But you are right: On the brakes FWD has more traction
@King19840805 hahah, that come from? dude you have no idea of what you talking about, rear wheel drive car have less weight on the wheel as most car have frntp mounted engine.i dont care of the principale or what you think is right.i dont just assume thing like you.i say this off fisrt hand experience, rear wheel drive car are useless in snow.why the hell do you think people dont drive mustang, vette or camaro in the winter? because they are real wheel drive car who cant be drive in winter
BMW e46 320d: front axis: 720 kg, rear axis: 750 kg
Ford Mustang 2010: front axis: 54%, rear axis: 46%
Camaro 1998: front axis: 58%, rear axis 42%
VW Golf 2 1978: front axis: 59%, rear axis: 41%
Corvette ZR1: front axis 51-52%, rear axis 48-49%
The more weight on the powered axis the better traction... Got it?! ;-)
"because they are real wheel drive car who cant be drive in winter" - this clearly indicates a driver with a not sensitive enough right foot, I´m sorry!
@King19840805 what is this suppose to mean? were talking about traction on ice or snow
ford focus 63/37
pontiac sunfire 63/37.
mazda 3 61/39.
now rwd
ford ranger 38/62
dodge ram 42/58
i could go on and on.see i took real average car not luxury, the car most people drive.you took only expensive car. my opinion is base on first hand experience while yours is just a guess.
there a difference between pulling and pushing in snow.but i understand you cant know as you have no experience on snow.
@King19840805 and lol, dont try to look smart buddy.. i plow snow for a living in a rear wheel drive truck(4x4).. i know how to drive in it. different from you who see 1 cm a year a think it is big snow...common man you dont make sense...rwd can be drive in winter, but to think they can excel fwd, it is just showing your lack of experience in snowy condition
Dude, have you ever heard of Austria? You know.... Cows, not Cangaroos ;-) Well, we don´t have snow at all, but I heard this must be purple or so, but I´m afraid, we never have temperature below 50°F here, I have to apologize...
@CedrikTheManiac00 i drive a truck and a FWD vehicle both in the winter and 4x4 helps but FWD is way better then RWD i agree with you ... AWD has to be the best in snowy conditions though
I strongly prefer rear-wheel-drive (with or without traction control) and will continue to seek that in the future. My current BMW is rear-wheel-drive and my next vehicle (likely a Dodge Ram Pickup) will certainly be as well. Regardless of road conditions (dry, rain, snow, etc), I still feel far more in control of the vehicle with rear-wheel-drive. Traction control is simply an added bonus to that.
Shes a Dumbass. a FWD will always understeer when your on the Gas. if she didnt wanna hit the stupid penguin she could have let off the gas and the front end would have acame around.
Yeah shes dumb and im not sure about everyone else but if you see something on the road you take your foot of the accelerator and maybe put on brake but you wouldn't just be like kill the penguin!!
@sarita11687 True but it does not make an excuse for a crappy car layout. FF sucks, but you know why most cars have it now? Its the cheapest drivetrain any automaker can use. They don't care about how rewarding or drivable their cars are, just so long as you, me and everyone else keeps buying them,
@ScubaSteveM45 Also, FF offers the most spacious interior because all the moving bits are up front. granted, FR really doesnt interfere with space that moch, so i guess thats where cost comes into play.
@sarita11687 Also is she seriously comparing an RWD car with TCS to FWD cars and AWD cars with TCS disabled? That's beyond stupid and seems to me like RWD favoritism. Also her description of "powering through" in an RWD car makes little sense. Without countersteer, rapid, sharp left-right turns under acceleration in succession WILL make an RWD car break loose and possibly spin, and if you're really unlucky, roll.
Addendum: Both FWD and AWD are much safer for novice drivers and during loss-of-control situations than RWD. Get off the throttle in an FWD car and the car will straighten out. You can also brake hard and then turn again, at the expense of most of your speed. For AWD straightening out understeer is even easier. Suddenly lifting off throttle during RWD understeer can induce lift-off oversteer, and needless to say failure to correct oversteer properly/in time can be catastrophic.
@sarita11687 She has a racing licence and she was a racing instructor at Silverstone. I think she knows what she's talking about. If you put your foot of the accelorator in a corner (in a FWD car) you still won't corner nowhere near as good as a RWD car. Why do you think Formula 1, Le mans, WTCC, DTM cars (in fact all cars which are made for racing on tarmac) have RWD? The whole point of FWD is cheaper manufacturing & easy to drive on snow, rain, tarmac etc. RWD requires more driving experience.
@sarita11687 Exactly. No one keeps the same speed with hazards, unless in a race. She should have tested when slamming on the breaks, in which all would have oversteered. Which more or less is the question, in which I'm guessing all are the same as acceleration no longer plays a factor.
@trendkill777 A RWD layout car with the same wheelbase will have a tighter turning radius. Its not right to make the drive wheels also do double duty as the ones that also steer.
she is dumb, go with Audi Quattro with Traction control and ESP, thats what i got and it handle like a dream and i have drove rear wheel cars and even with traction and esp the dont seem to handle as nice
I've see this video before....what a joke. Anyone knows AWD is the best.....why else would so many auto manufactures switch to it. Even high end sports cars like Porsche and Lamborghini have AWD. So how is RWD better? Lets try this test on a wet road and watch that RWD and FWD fail. This test is hardly "real world". I know it rains and snows where I live....and in most of the world it at least rains. As for Vicky Butler....useless as a driver.
@jakemoses88 haha no thay are not.if your puting the power down your going to get heeps of understeer thay say that awds are but if your in a rwd and you no what you are doing the rwd is the better on
When it snowed overnight and you are late for work, even getting out of the parking lot can be a problem with 2WD. Having 4WD all year is worth it just for that 1 day when you drive up a snow covered hill while everyone else is stuck desperately at the bottom
@snakesonaplane2 nobody really wants FWD, its just that its cheaper and simpler and for most road cars - sufficient. Also nobody cares how much you hate FWD
@gidb AWD vehicles can drift too. If you know anything about drifting you'd know that. It's just these nazi-conservatives at the D1 have this stuck up idea that you have to be RWD to drift which is moronic. Just look all over Japan...they drift Subies, Mitsu's, even Skylines.
@akotr3mor i know..and there also starting Fwd as well they kinda look cheapo but looks fun! check in to it...:D hey im just saying...also i believe the only reason why D1 only do Rwds are because they can get more angle and its probably be alot more smoother..lowkey formula D sucks...just my opinion ahahha just had to throw that in there!
Well I would say 4x4 and fwd is pretty good during snow fwd will slide but not as bad as rwd. I seen many rwd cars get stuck while my little cavalier fwd doesn't get stuck in the snow. lol idk I'm just saying.
@epiphonehtm even with a rear bias wouldn't the front's traction throw some understeer into the mix? From my findings only Infiniti/Nissan's system F/R torque default is 100% to the rear
@ScubaSteveM45 not true. It's dependent on the AWD system. Audi pretty much is on all the time, whereas in Subaru or Mitsubishi it's primarily on all four tires, but supplies power to the tires opposite those with the least amount of grip
@ScubaSteveM45 lol um, yes, that is point. Hence when you say, "AWD is Front wheel drive with a little RWD that kicks in only after the fronts lose grip. " you are pretty much flat out wrong. :p
unless you're just one of those guys that just says stuff because you like to hear yourself talk and it doesn't matter if you're right or not.
@enokoelite '.. How the hell is FWD where its at? ..'
Manufacturers promote(d) front wheel drive solely because an integrated engine, transmission, and drive train (all inserted into the vehicle at once) reduced manufacturing costs during vehicle assembly at the factory, significantly increasing (since automobile costs did not go down proportional to those cost savings) profits for manufacturers.
When driving FWD at a situation like with the penguin, release the gas sharply (Cause lift-off oversteer in most powerful cars, causes weight transfer to the front), then tap the brakes to shift even more weight to the front end. Accelerate to control the oversteer (Move weight backwards). This will free up enough grip to maintain your ideal line.
@Grophrane1337 in a turn though? if i tap breaks in my car on a turn doing 55 it has a tendency to get squirly. don't get me wrong its fun, but not practical while dodging penguins.
@perdedor3571 Yeh that's about right. Old comment fail for me there. You need the car balanced to pull maneuvers off properly. THis means though, that you still want to be off the gas when turning. You can also break in the straight lines in between turns.
why the fuck do they even use front wheel drive anyway obviously it makes emergency situations more dangerous due to no control and nobody likes it anyway. who the fuck likes understeer i would rather have oversteer more fun and controlable
I know that I drove my Navigator right through 7-12 inches of snow this morning while my girlfriend was busy farting around, back and forth, back and forth, in her a6! That'll teach her to make sassy remarks to me about my 10 mpg ghetto cruiser - and that audi super bowl commercial didn't help her out either! While I'm typing this I'm getting the bad feeling that she is trying to find the keys to my '77 FJ40 - oh God no......please...answer your cell phone woman!
I like how they don't mention one word of snow...
Quaiowe 1 month ago
@Quaiowe snow has too many variables...is it wet heavy slush? icy? Ive seen cars left on the road and an hour later once it became slushy I drove my camaro past the parked cars on the road...got mine stuck a couple times but a road test isnt a snow test
infringinator 1 month ago
Race Wheel Drive
Awesome Wheel Drive
Fag Wheel Drive
DaBossk 1 month ago
@DaBossk you speak the truth
EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME 3 weeks ago
this is not a comparison of three different traction philosophies but a blatant advert for the beamer... big disappointment.
werkmap 1 month ago
try RWD in snow lady, it dont work...i tried it.
TheBjmr 2 months ago
@TheBjmr Ooh it works my freind. Just not as the rest of the world wants it to. It wont get u out of parkinglots, up a slope, or out of the ditch, it may even get u in one.
But it will get u hella sideways !
tjugohundrakronor 1 month ago
The only way to have a fair competition here is if there is a snow test.
wimbriemooreatgmail 2 months ago
does anyone know if there's AWD vehicle w/ differential lock?
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 Gen 2 Camry All-Trac with a manual.
jeffman3 2 months ago
@jeffman3 really?!...only trucks and SUVs have diff lock for off roading purposes
7150285 2 months ago
@7150285 I had typed out a long-ass reply only to have my phone not let me post it- the original "All-Trac" system from Toyota was a three-differential system and came in one of two flavors. There was the sport version, which used a viscous center coupling as the center diff, and the less-sport flavor used by the Camry series used a manual locked/unlocked center diff. When locked, there is a perfect 50/50 torque split between the front and rear differentials.
jeffman3 2 months ago
@7150285 range rover sports'd be that car..
waleedraza2007 2 months ago
@waleedraza2007 what car?
7150285 2 months ago
Drift Drift!
countpuchi 5 months ago
They're using different makes and brand. It's not a equal fair comparison. A FWD can be made to handle almost as good, usually when you're talking lower hp range, like under 300hp or so. Look at touring car races. But In most cases in the real world, AWD is superior to FR or FF, because we experience different road conditions, whether its wet or bumpy. It sure isn't smooth like a race track. Look at WRC. Even in tarmac only races the AWD dominates.
robbc18 6 months ago
I prefer AWD, thats why i have a Infinti G35x AWD, handles excellent in the snow where my front wheel drive Maxima would have got stuck or struggled, Mine reverts to RWD automatically when AWD is not needed, on start its 25% front 75% rear then reverts to 0% front 100% rear, it auto detects slip and uses traction control and AWD up to 50% front 50% rear, or if i think its needed i hit a switch in my car to make it 50/50 split
thabg007 6 months ago
Oversteer is better to have than understeer. It's the oversteer that scares passengers. It's the understeer that scares the driver.
SorsanSuuriAfro 7 months ago
any good driver would pick rwd of course =P dam i miss my supra now but im sure a good driver in a civic could of made that turn maybe
CrXCrXcRx88 7 months ago
All wheel drive and 4x4 are not the same, dumb bitch.
Heartjager 7 months ago
@Heartjager this is fuckin 4 wheel drive you'r right
atomziom19 4 months ago
this lady needs to fucked in the ass by me.
asspop123 9 months ago
@asspop123 You need to get fucked in the ass by the lady! hahaha. Rear wheel bro!!
rahimBB 9 months ago
Thats just silly. The traction is determent by how much grip the tyres have, not by FWD, RWD or 4x4. By the way, understeering is not safer than oversteering. I'd rather come out of the curve front first than ass first..
haraldhonda 9 months ago
@haraldhonda if your a good driver you can hold the over steer and come out of the corner just fine when in a fwd car youd hear DGDGDGDGDGD as your front wheels are being scuffed in the ditch
17Stickman 9 months ago
What does that say to us? Even ugly chicks like red cars and Audi Quattro is made for men :-D
Maxxxshop 10 months ago
fuck them all, ill keep my 07 subaru wrx. :)
cmoneyinda859 10 months ago
1 QUESTION: will the back wheels of AWD vehicle lock up as well if the transmission is put in Park???
7150285 1 year ago
@7150285 If you put the transmission in park while in motion you are a retard and deserve to crash. It's called PARK for a reason.
tankermottind 10 months ago
@tankermottind you are the retard here...i dont think u know what im asking
7150285 10 months ago
@7150285 Yes, the rear wheels of an AWD car will lock up if you engage the handbrake while in motion. Parking brakes do not use ABS as they're intended to be used when the car is stationary. AWD cannot stop wheel lockup. I'm just rather annoyed by the bizarre attitude towards vehicle safety in these video comments. Public road driving is not racing and certainly not touge, and all those "fun" things people talk about doing with their RWD cars on ice are dangerous, not to mention illegal.
tankermottind 10 months ago
@tankermottind I think ur overthinking a lil bit...i was just simply wondering if the rear wheels of a AWD vehicle will lock up if the transmission is put in "Park" WHEN the vehicle is stationary and turned off!!...so it can be towed safely with its transmission put in Park. Get it?
7150285 10 months ago
@7150285 Yes, they will. Parking brakes work the same way on all cars regardless of drivetrain.
tankermottind 10 months ago
front weell drive is easier to drive for most of drivers. Most of the people don't go to circuits and they drive for necesity...for them, it's better a FWD or a 4x4.
beraparicio 1 year ago
alot of butthurt AWD and FWD fanboys here,can't accept the fact that RWD is just the king of the road? which car does the most burnout and drifts? yeah BMW. just keep hating and getting stocked in you shitty AWD and FWD sytems while we RW drivers shit on you all.
kay19833 1 year ago
let off the fucking gas?
golfinguy55555 1 year ago
To me she sounds like she's doing a commercial for the BMW :)
Thmaxify 1 year ago
This knowledge has been known around for years. I guess this woman finally gets it.
jayfiver 1 year ago
What a waste of comparison. In the round-about, the BMW had traction control keeping the ass in check, the audi had all the tortion on the outside wheels due to its awd system, the FWD has an open differential, no traction control, OF COURSE It's going to understeer. AWD is good for daily life, but it consumes more gas as you have more rotational mass to power (an extra pumpkin), RWD is great for handling..but it kinda fails in the slip, especially snow, I feel FWD is more balanced for daily..
MrSlowestD16 1 year ago
@MrSlowestD16 - i agree with everything you said... except that generally speaking - FWD is the most fuel efficient.
Amidat 7 months ago
@Amidat Without a doubt. There's much less rotational mass when you don't have to have the long, drive shaft, rear diff, rear axles, , the 4WD trans on AWD cars, etc. I didn't mean to sound like it wasn't the most fuel efficient. Their evaluation is...half correct, yes, the FWD WILL understeer first..but it's also the most practical for day to day use. The AWD, while very practical, will inevitably consume more fuel, and the RWD works great until it snows, but will consume more fuel than FF.
MrSlowestD16 7 months ago
I could not believe that everyone is constantly talking about driving on the snow. Does all the humanity live on the north pole? Where i live last time it snowed was 25 years ago. 99% of the kilometres i drive are over tarmac, so i am no worried at all about how a car handles in snow. More important than the type of traction is to use winter tires to those that are so worried to drive over the snow everyday
mito21 1 year ago
@mito21 No, but people in England and Canada have snow...
Hayeshacker0NE 1 year ago
Gosh i never seen so much controversy over drive trains. everybody kno FWD is the worst in any weather condition. RWD is second best and 4x4 is best hands down. Personally ive owned FWD and 4x4. drove both in snow. 4in.+. and the FWD slippin n slidin everywhere. could bearly take off from a red light. havnt slid once in the 4x4. to back that up just look at the news next time it snows. u will only see FWD cars spinnin out in the snow stuck on flat ground lol.
Lilmiket1000 1 year ago
@Lilmiket1000 now you just show again your lack of experience in snowey condition...it mean you have never tried a cbination of both in bad condition... and yoou cant unerstand that 4x4 is not the best in snowy condition....AWD is the best in snow, then 4wd then 4x4 then FWD then RWD...it is just common sense i dont understand how people dont figure this 1 . so plz stop posting wrong info on internet... go get more exprience in snow then come back to talk
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 whats the difference between 4x4 and 4wd drive.i assume 4x4 is what an offroader would use?
godzillaisnuclea123 1 year ago
@godzillaisnuclea123 well awd is ether selectable or full time, which mean it can runs on pavement and at any given speed, withut cuasing harm on pwertrain
4x4 is for most of the time only selectable is not recommend for pavement or speed abve 100kph, but is has more traction and low end troque than awd, more tough generally
you will find 4wd or 4wd on small car like subaru or toyota matrix or suv
truck are equipped with 4x4
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 i dont know why i asked i already knew that i misread your comment.But thanks anyway.
godzillaisnuclea123 1 year ago
Good choice! Throw in a Subie next time in your video.
ss19800 1 year ago
It sounds more like she is just comparing traction control to no traction control.
Ya, FWD is the worst balanced car design invented, its only good for MPG.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage Rofl, front wheel dirve have way more use then rear wheel drive car... better MPG and handling, better traction.... real wheel drive car are useless in ice or snow.. while some front wheel drive cant outclass ome 4x4 in winter...get your fact right
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 I've beat 4x4's off the line in the snow with my old beater firebird, lol.
I was recently behind a POS FWD car going around a corner at about 5 MPH, and even going that slow he couldn't stop from spinning out. I had to stop while he drove up over the curb to straighten out.
FWD is a cheap economy design, that is all it is good for.
They handle EXTREMELY poorly because they have to have the majority of their weight on the front.
Alfa:36R/64F BMW:49R/51F Audi:45R/55F
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage i dont give a fuck about this stupid exemple made in the uk were they never sees snow..
here 4wd and rear wheel drive have about 30% more chance then be in accident then a frwd.....
seriously dont try man, i drive front wheel drive and rear wheel drive, in snow , you dont, so stop saying things
YOU THINK are true but in in the end , your in the ditch...your like a guy who say a plane is better then another but who never even been in a plane...
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 I've driven plenty of FWDs, but I'm sure I'd never be cheap enough to own one. Unless you wanna count my CJ cuz I took off the rear drive shaft, lol.
On pavement in snow, FWD is better in the straights, worse in the corners. RWD is the opposite.
But on dry pavement, RWD always handles better than FWD.
We don't get much snow here, but one time we got 17" in one night and I had to drive through it with my Trans Am to work to plow snow. I will admit the tranny got hot, lol.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 Rear wheel drive are fun to drive in ice or snow -- not the stupid FWD which is boring as hell.... the handling is better with RWD -- Ferrari, McLaren, Zonda, Koenigsegg, SLR, Corvette - this are the cars with worse handling and worse traction than FWD cars ?? Ohhhh I didn't know that .... FWD is shit !! Get your fact right...
wyrazowfkp 11 months ago
@wyrazowfkp dude, your gona drive a corvette or a mclaren in snow? YOUR RETARDED KID GO TO SLEEP... where talking handling in snow condition... all the cars you name cant even be drive in winter....fucking retarded kid with no education....
CedrikTheManiac00 11 months ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 Who is talking about handling in snow ? The test isn't in snow. And handling depends on weight, mass distribution, engine power, suspension construction % others. The RWD cars are the strongest cars produced .... there are no factory FWD cars that have 400, 500, 600 or more HP... because that will be shit as hell. You can drive them in winter .... Maybe not ice and mountains - but you can. I drive a RWD car in the winter and this is normal -sometimes fun to powerslide
wyrazowfkp 11 months ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 I don't know what retarded means -- but I guess you're not nice. I'll check that in dictionary because English is not my country language. And I have more education in cars than you - sorry... All not 4x4 BMW and Mercedes (not A and B class woman-shopping carts) have REAR WHEEL DRIVE and I see them everyday. How is that possible in the winter ? Rear wheel drive cars have superb traction -- all your knowledge is based on a old open-diff live axle pickups ? Or russian Lada's
wyrazowfkp 11 months ago
@wyrazowfkp Thanks for completely missing what FWD cars are designed to be. Most FWD cars are designed to be utilitarian, cost-effective, and most of all SAFE transportation for ordinary people. 600 HP on a family sedan makes as much sense as square wheels. FWD and AWD have overwhelming safety advantages over RWD, especially for drivers who don't have performance driving skills (the vast majority). Most drivers don't want to have "fun", they want the car to go where it's pointed with no drama.
tankermottind 10 months ago
@tankermottind They are designed to be cost-effective, utlitarian and to be boring as hell. This is like a washing machine - maybe practical - but no more, nothing special and nothing interesting. SAFE - with this weight balance - that's not safe. Who said understeer is SAFE ? When a driver with no skills will loose control of his vehicle - he won't be able to do anything. People who drive a RWD are not affraid of loosing control of the car in very bad weather conditions and know what to do ..
wyrazowfkp 10 months ago
@wyrazowfkp It's more safe than the car rotating violently and possibly rolling over, that's for sure. Understeer makes easier a non-performance-trained driver's natural instinct when running out of traction: to SLOW DOWN as quickly as possible. Lose enough velocity and the front end will come right back around. In an RWD car this can cause lift-off oversteer, which is dangerous even for a professional.
FWD is an excellent drive train for commuter cars, which is why most commuter cars have it.
tankermottind 10 months ago
@wyrazowfkp: As a corollary, FWD is of course not so good for high-powered sports cars, which is why such cars usually don't have FWD. But judging all cars by the standard of high-speed performance is stupid, because that's not really a design goal for most cars.
tankermottind 10 months ago
Should have tested a SUBARU. The only true all wheel drive car. Even Deborah Harry sang about aliens that eat SUBARU's.(Rapture)..they must know something about the best all wheel drive cars on earth.
MrStevilKneivel 1 year ago
why is it said that front wheel drive is safer? I have always driven rear wheel drive cars apart from the car I am driving now (civic type r) and i dont feel safe when going around corners at high speed in it. I dont like driving it on the motorway either.
It could just be that I am too used to rear wheel drive though.
greenbrucelee 1 year ago
@greenbrucelee Front wheel drive cars are only safer because its impossible to drive them at higher speed and when cornering faster, they are 'safer' only since they perform poorly in those conditions for people to want to make a go of it.
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 lol? you have way more handling cornering in a front wheel drive then a rear wheel drive.. Rear wheel dive is the worts for a perfrmance car who goes on a track... they are gd on a drag, useless in turns, fornt wheel drive handle better than real wheel drive, SPECIALLY on corners
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 thanks for clearing that up.
greenbrucelee 1 year ago
haha please. theres a woman driving and they took a fuckn alpha for a car comparison...please, an alpha? you could as well compare a fwd volvo to a awd forklift...stupid video
benediction666 1 year ago
no alfa do understeer it had a wicked short wheel base
twentysevenjo 1 year ago
Quattro + ESP = maximum security in most cases
WheepyProductions 1 year ago
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robertjuhh13 1 year ago
That audi vs. that BMW on a snow covered mountain road with steep inclines and patches of black ice. I'll take the Audi.
trainlinezoo 1 year ago 13
@trainlinezoo gopher it
NehpetsK57 9 months ago
@trainlinezoo Are you buying a car for driveing on snow or a car for fun, speed, looks? Buy a pick up or suv or go live in a place where its not as snowy.
rahimBB 9 months ago
@rahimBB AWD is just plain better. Whatever the car is - it should be law that they are offered in AWD as an extra option. The weather where I live changes quickly on any day it likes. Floods can happen at anytime and if you see the water you better be able to go overland to get to higher ground - try doing that in Camaro. When Chrysler started selling the 300C in AWD it became a global hoopty with class.
trainlinezoo 9 months ago
@trainlinezoo - i would say AWD is better every day.... if the weight of the vehicles is comparable...
Amidat 7 months ago
@Amidat Every car should be offered AWD as an option. There's no way to drive a FWD car in deep snow and it can come down real fast on the east coast. They need to develop a magnetic clutch for the AWD cars that prevents the drive shaft to the rear wheels from spinning when it's not in use. It's alot to ask of a 2.0L engine to move the car from a dead stop as it is and then to ask it to spin a heavy drive shaft for no real reason is not efficient enough. It's just extra drag that can be X'd.
trainlinezoo 7 months ago
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@trainlinezoo Are you buying a car for driveing on snow only or a car for fun, speed, looks? Buy a pick up or suv or go live in a place where its not as snowy.
rahimBB 9 months ago
@trainlinezoo who gives a fuck....where i live it snows 2 months out of the year...and for 2 months it's called winter tires...
sergsrt8 7 months ago
@trainlinezoo well she did say assuming you DONT live on a snowdonian hillside, which would be better. rear wheel wins everytime in 90% of road driving scenarios.
atourdeforce 4 months ago
@atourdeforce I'm not sure what the issue is really. 4000 people die every day in car related accidents. Why take chances and try to predict what driving conditions are going to be every day. Sooner or later people have to drive in snow, uphill, on ice, up hill. Given a choice at the time and being able to afford the extra cost in paper money - get the AWD version of whatever vehicle and you will not be sorry. RWD may be more fun and FWD more stable but nothing beats a multi-setting AWD car.
trainlinezoo 4 months ago
@trainlinezoo rwd is more fun,but its also a hell of a lot more stable than fwd,an awd.most people do not drive on snow often i live in ireland which is a cold climate and i maybe drive on snow 2-3 days a year.in normal regular driving which as i stated about 90% of the time you are safer with rwd, as understeer is the culprit for loss of car control, oversteer is much more managable as she said it also has a habit of keeping the car in the same relative direction, therefore any understeer isnt
atourdeforce 4 months ago
@atourdeforce good and while not as bad as fwd you still get 50-60% as much understeer in awd as you do in fwd. all have there place im not trying to say it doesnt have a place when driving on snow, ice ect ect. i was simply saying in fairness to the girl she did say UNLESS you live on a snowdonain hillside, i.e somewhere it snows and ices alot it is safer to use rwd. thats was the exact thing she was trying to point out in this clip that its a surprise to most people but true.
atourdeforce 4 months ago
Respond to this video... it would not be benificial to get awd unless you drove on snow over a couple of months in the year, and if driving rwd on the snow the logical thing to do would be slow down and pay more attention. also tyre chains would be a very good investment. however if your trying to say you prefer awd, well that is a different story, but it doesnt mean you are correct.
atourdeforce 4 months ago
HELP! in my engineering class, we made little cars with gearboxes run by small motors. we have 2 challenges, tug a war our opponents car and pulling some books up a ramp. we can either use front or rear. Which is better? We only go in straight lines in both challenges. Each team has different gear ratios; my gear ratio is around the middle of my class, slightly more towards the speed side. tug o war: front of the cars pointing away, Ramp: front of the car pointing up the ramp. please help.
hoboninjas 1 year ago
@hoboninjas
rwd is better especially if the center of gravity is on (or close to) your rear wheels.
bassistx81 1 year ago
@superamerica1981
Well, that´s not the truth... uphill RWD cars have advantage due to the changing position of the center of gravity (getting uphill means that the COG goes backwards, where the traction is needed).
On the straight line and in corners you have to be careful with the accelerator, but at least you do have more chance to keep the car on the road. You might need both lanes, yeah, but hey - I´d prefer emergency drifting way more than just slipping straight into incoming trafic!
King19840805 1 year ago
@King19840805 wtf are you talking about???? man seriously stop posting things on youtube when you say what other people say arent truth while YOU are in the ditch...front wheel drive car with outclass any rear wheel drive car uphi in icy or snowy condition.. you dont need to argue on this, it is like that, beside i have 1000x time more experience then you in those condition. so plz dont argue on it... no need
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 never heard of physics, right? when accelerating / going uphill the weight distribution changes to the back end of the car, that´s why you do have more traction with RWD.
Dude, that´s the same principle why you need a limited slip diff for cornering quickly, because the outside wheels have more weight (= traction) than the inside wheels - that´s why they tend to slip.
That´s the basics, thanks to Sir Isaac Newton ;-)
But you are right: On the brakes FWD has more traction
King19840805 1 year ago
@King19840805 hahah, that come from? dude you have no idea of what you talking about, rear wheel drive car have less weight on the wheel as most car have frntp mounted engine.i dont care of the principale or what you think is right.i dont just assume thing like you.i say this off fisrt hand experience, rear wheel drive car are useless in snow.why the hell do you think people dont drive mustang, vette or camaro in the winter? because they are real wheel drive car who cant be drive in winter
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00
BMW e46 320d: front axis: 720 kg, rear axis: 750 kg
Ford Mustang 2010: front axis: 54%, rear axis: 46%
Camaro 1998: front axis: 58%, rear axis 42%
VW Golf 2 1978: front axis: 59%, rear axis: 41%
Corvette ZR1: front axis 51-52%, rear axis 48-49%
The more weight on the powered axis the better traction... Got it?! ;-)
"because they are real wheel drive car who cant be drive in winter" - this clearly indicates a driver with a not sensitive enough right foot, I´m sorry!
King19840805 1 year ago
@King19840805 what is this suppose to mean? were talking about traction on ice or snow
ford focus 63/37
pontiac sunfire 63/37.
mazda 3 61/39.
now rwd
ford ranger 38/62
dodge ram 42/58
i could go on and on.see i took real average car not luxury, the car most people drive.you took only expensive car. my opinion is base on first hand experience while yours is just a guess.
there a difference between pulling and pushing in snow.but i understand you cant know as you have no experience on snow.
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@King19840805 and lol, dont try to look smart buddy.. i plow snow for a living in a rear wheel drive truck(4x4).. i know how to drive in it. different from you who see 1 cm a year a think it is big snow...common man you dont make sense...rwd can be drive in winter, but to think they can excel fwd, it is just showing your lack of experience in snowy condition
CedrikTheManiac00 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00
Dude, have you ever heard of Austria? You know.... Cows, not Cangaroos ;-) Well, we don´t have snow at all, but I heard this must be purple or so, but I´m afraid, we never have temperature below 50°F here, I have to apologize...
King19840805 1 year ago
@CedrikTheManiac00 i drive a truck and a FWD vehicle both in the winter and 4x4 helps but FWD is way better then RWD i agree with you ... AWD has to be the best in snowy conditions though
ZachMitch1994 1 year ago
i drive a FWD but i would much rather drive a RWD so i can drift
Goldtacto 1 year ago
It looks like Bmw paid for this video...In Northern Usa and Canada on my way home
on a snowy day every 2 mile i see rear wheel drive wrecked and front and all wheel
drive's going home no problem.
alex24nis 1 year ago
rwd FTW!
Gruelius 1 year ago
3:21 Oh, I killed the penguin!
back sound: Woooo! *applause* xD
nejckra 1 year ago 5
I strongly prefer rear-wheel-drive (with or without traction control) and will continue to seek that in the future. My current BMW is rear-wheel-drive and my next vehicle (likely a Dodge Ram Pickup) will certainly be as well. Regardless of road conditions (dry, rain, snow, etc), I still feel far more in control of the vehicle with rear-wheel-drive. Traction control is simply an added bonus to that.
stewartx5 1 year ago
Shes a Dumbass. a FWD will always understeer when your on the Gas. if she didnt wanna hit the stupid penguin she could have let off the gas and the front end would have acame around.
sarita11687 1 year ago 18
@sarita11687
Yeah shes dumb and im not sure about everyone else but if you see something on the road you take your foot of the accelerator and maybe put on brake but you wouldn't just be like kill the penguin!!
The18plus18 1 year ago
@sarita11687 True but it does not make an excuse for a crappy car layout. FF sucks, but you know why most cars have it now? Its the cheapest drivetrain any automaker can use. They don't care about how rewarding or drivable their cars are, just so long as you, me and everyone else keeps buying them,
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 Also, FF offers the most spacious interior because all the moving bits are up front. granted, FR really doesnt interfere with space that moch, so i guess thats where cost comes into play.
iriddell1 1 year ago
@sarita11687 maybe she was trying to prove a point with front wheel drive not everyone understands that
Deerhunterjs 11 months ago
@sarita11687 Also is she seriously comparing an RWD car with TCS to FWD cars and AWD cars with TCS disabled? That's beyond stupid and seems to me like RWD favoritism. Also her description of "powering through" in an RWD car makes little sense. Without countersteer, rapid, sharp left-right turns under acceleration in succession WILL make an RWD car break loose and possibly spin, and if you're really unlucky, roll.
tankermottind 10 months ago
Addendum: Both FWD and AWD are much safer for novice drivers and during loss-of-control situations than RWD. Get off the throttle in an FWD car and the car will straighten out. You can also brake hard and then turn again, at the expense of most of your speed. For AWD straightening out understeer is even easier. Suddenly lifting off throttle during RWD understeer can induce lift-off oversteer, and needless to say failure to correct oversteer properly/in time can be catastrophic.
tankermottind 10 months ago
@sarita11687 She has a racing licence and she was a racing instructor at Silverstone. I think she knows what she's talking about. If you put your foot of the accelorator in a corner (in a FWD car) you still won't corner nowhere near as good as a RWD car. Why do you think Formula 1, Le mans, WTCC, DTM cars (in fact all cars which are made for racing on tarmac) have RWD? The whole point of FWD is cheaper manufacturing & easy to drive on snow, rain, tarmac etc. RWD requires more driving experience.
endMCMXCII 10 months ago
@sarita11687 Exactly. No one keeps the same speed with hazards, unless in a race. She should have tested when slamming on the breaks, in which all would have oversteered. Which more or less is the question, in which I'm guessing all are the same as acceleration no longer plays a factor.
Son0fHobs 9 months ago
FWD sucks!
EvoPogo 1 year ago
26 people own a front wheel drive car who watched this video
MrsHugzies 1 year ago
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MrsHugzies 1 year ago
fwd is good to an extent, it better on a short wheelbase car
trendkill777 1 year ago
@trendkill777 A RWD layout car with the same wheelbase will have a tighter turning radius. Its not right to make the drive wheels also do double duty as the ones that also steer.
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
Front wheel drive sucks
Domman56 1 year ago
HAHA she starts in the woods like she's on X-Files
CrazyJulio44 1 year ago
she is dumb, go with Audi Quattro with Traction control and ESP, thats what i got and it handle like a dream and i have drove rear wheel cars and even with traction and esp the dont seem to handle as nice
tandaman538 1 year ago
I've see this video before....what a joke. Anyone knows AWD is the best.....why else would so many auto manufactures switch to it. Even high end sports cars like Porsche and Lamborghini have AWD. So how is RWD better? Lets try this test on a wet road and watch that RWD and FWD fail. This test is hardly "real world". I know it rains and snows where I live....and in most of the world it at least rains. As for Vicky Butler....useless as a driver.
porsche558 1 year ago
front wheel drives are safer in the wet
jakemoses88 1 year ago
@jakemoses88 umm your an idiot. tell me FWD is safer next time you understeer into a tree in the rain.
edxrbugcatcher 1 year ago
@edxrbugcatcher ummm i have found that they are, that's my opinion, there is no need for sad name calling
jakemoses88 1 year ago
@jakemoses88 haha no thay are not.if your puting the power down your going to get heeps of understeer thay say that awds are but if your in a rwd and you no what you are doing the rwd is the better on
4doorskylinenz 1 year ago
When it snowed overnight and you are late for work, even getting out of the parking lot can be a problem with 2WD. Having 4WD all year is worth it just for that 1 day when you drive up a snow covered hill while everyone else is stuck desperately at the bottom
VladBlok28 1 year ago
i dont feel like a women should do this....just sayin...
Mraajdar 1 year ago
dumd bitch put that bmw on a icey hill and it will just spin like the FWD but give the 4WD a shot and it will atleast do better than the rear
ryanair737400 1 year ago
FWD=fail wheel drive
snakesonaplane2 1 year ago
@snakesonaplane2 your car has fail wheels?
VladBlok28 1 year ago
@VladBlok28 nope, i don't have any front wheel drive vehicles, they suck i have RWD for summer and 4WD for winter, don't need that FWD crap
snakesonaplane2 1 year ago
@snakesonaplane2 nobody really wants FWD, its just that its cheaper and simpler and for most road cars - sufficient. Also nobody cares how much you hate FWD
VladBlok28 1 year ago
@VladBlok28 who pissed in your Wheaties today? i don't care if you think no one cares, i'll say what i want and not a damn thing you can do about it
snakesonaplane2 1 year ago
@snakesonaplane2 actually theres quite a lot i can do about it but its just not worth it
VladBlok28 1 year ago
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snakesonaplane2 1 year ago
RWD!! TIMEATTACKS,DRIFT,DRAG...not so much rally but..DRIFT!!!!LOL
gidb 1 year ago
@gidb AWD vehicles can drift too. If you know anything about drifting you'd know that. It's just these nazi-conservatives at the D1 have this stuck up idea that you have to be RWD to drift which is moronic. Just look all over Japan...they drift Subies, Mitsu's, even Skylines.
akotr3mor 1 year ago
@akotr3mor i know..and there also starting Fwd as well they kinda look cheapo but looks fun! check in to it...:D hey im just saying...also i believe the only reason why D1 only do Rwds are because they can get more angle and its probably be alot more smoother..lowkey formula D sucks...just my opinion ahahha just had to throw that in there!
gidb 1 year ago
Forgot 4 Wheel Drive (For trucks... and I know the difference between it and AWD)
alexander1485 1 year ago
piece of shitty european cars put an awd evo fwd honda and rearwheel supra and get way better results than this shit
bonds911 1 year ago
@bonds911 i think the bmw was more suited to this than a supra would be
epiphonehtm 1 year ago
Well I would say 4x4 and fwd is pretty good during snow fwd will slide but not as bad as rwd. I seen many rwd cars get stuck while my little cavalier fwd doesn't get stuck in the snow. lol idk I'm just saying.
jackjeckel5 1 year ago
RWD all the way!
ajghkasjgfklahlghalf 1 year ago
4x4 is not the same as awd
jtm11995 1 year ago 42
@jtm11995 yes. AWD is Front wheel drive with a little RWD that kicks in only after the fronts lose grip.
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 unless you have a wrx or evo with a center locking differential that you can adjust the bias to the rear wheels :)
epiphonehtm 1 year ago
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@epiphonehtm even with a rear bias wouldn't the front's traction throw some understeer into the mix? From my findings only Infiniti/Nissan's system F/R torque default is 100% to the rear
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 audi's torsen quattro is permanent full time all wheel drive
popchilito 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 not true. It's dependent on the AWD system. Audi pretty much is on all the time, whereas in Subaru or Mitsubishi it's primarily on all four tires, but supplies power to the tires opposite those with the least amount of grip
akotr3mor 1 year ago
@ScubaSteveM45 Unless you have a 911 Carrera 4, Lamborghini Diablo VT, etc., rofl.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage and those models have rear torque emphasis to handle in more like a RWD only car than anything else
ScubaSteveM45 1 year ago
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@ScubaSteveM45 lol um, yes, that is point. Hence when you say, "AWD is Front wheel drive with a little RWD that kicks in only after the fronts lose grip. " you are pretty much flat out wrong. :p
unless you're just one of those guys that just says stuff because you like to hear yourself talk and it doesn't matter if you're right or not.
If that is the case, feel free to blab on.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@jtm11995 yes they are
Taikafirr 1 year ago
@jtm11995 yes it is
09is 1 year ago
@jtm11995 why whats the difference?
ajhgfhgjbjhbjhb 1 year ago
tbey're pretty much the same except that 4X4 can be turn on and off
7150285 1 year ago
i'll put my money on u lol
edimk25 1 year ago
awd subaru impreza when it snows. or n a field.. oh my it is fun.
12valvepower1 1 year ago
Well she's a cool woman.
TheAbcd1234mk 1 year ago 3
fwd is where its at
gunchuck44 1 year ago
@gunchuck44 How the hell is FWD where its at? It failed miserably?
enokoelite 1 year ago 12
@enokoelite i agree, fricken disablity in cars...
KAzik10001 1 year ago
@enokoelite It's just cheaper to produce...
Gatokrk 1 year ago 3
@enokoelite not exactly... look at the volvo 850.
xxdonatelloxx 1 year ago
@xxdonatelloxx What about it?
enokoelite 1 year ago
@enokoelite '.. How the hell is FWD where its at? ..'
Manufacturers promote(d) front wheel drive solely because an integrated engine, transmission, and drive train (all inserted into the vehicle at once) reduced manufacturing costs during vehicle assembly at the factory, significantly increasing (since automobile costs did not go down proportional to those cost savings) profits for manufacturers.
stewartx5 1 year ago
When driving FWD at a situation like with the penguin, release the gas sharply (Cause lift-off oversteer in most powerful cars, causes weight transfer to the front), then tap the brakes to shift even more weight to the front end. Accelerate to control the oversteer (Move weight backwards). This will free up enough grip to maintain your ideal line.
Grophrane1337 1 year ago 2
@Grophrane1337 in a turn though? if i tap breaks in my car on a turn doing 55 it has a tendency to get squirly. don't get me wrong its fun, but not practical while dodging penguins.
perdedor3571 1 year ago
@perdedor3571 Yeh that's about right. Old comment fail for me there. You need the car balanced to pull maneuvers off properly. THis means though, that you still want to be off the gas when turning. You can also break in the straight lines in between turns.
Grophrane1337 1 year ago
still bmw is a piece of shit. quattro rules
stalkeris654 1 year ago
yeah yeah , why didnt they put the 2.5 156 ??? the bmw is the 328 !
gloup81 1 year ago
Can anyone please tell what's the song being played @ 2:25 ?
MannyJey 1 year ago
@MannyJey I think it's by Eels, but don't quote me.
Wilseus 1 year ago
why the fuck do they even use front wheel drive anyway obviously it makes emergency situations more dangerous due to no control and nobody likes it anyway. who the fuck likes understeer i would rather have oversteer more fun and controlable
parnabyjgnp 1 year ago
Understeer is a bitch
BMWBurnoutM3 1 year ago 4
don't see many navigators winning rallies thou.or returning 30 mpg. can you spell yank mortgage default?
range206 1 year ago
I know that I drove my Navigator right through 7-12 inches of snow this morning while my girlfriend was busy farting around, back and forth, back and forth, in her a6! That'll teach her to make sassy remarks to me about my 10 mpg ghetto cruiser - and that audi super bowl commercial didn't help her out either! While I'm typing this I'm getting the bad feeling that she is trying to find the keys to my '77 FJ40 - oh God no......please...answer your cell phone woman!
ObamaEqualsStupid 1 year ago