I think cigarette companies should be allowed to advertise like they use to. It is unfair that anti-smoking advertisements to air when tobacco companies advertisements cannot. I remember seeing commercials when I was a kid and never did they make me want to smoke and I've never have.
whats the point of smoking cigarettes? you dont get high like weed and they are expensive as shit! if people wanna smoke and sound like a robot from the future let them
@BEARARMZ the nicotine in cigarettes helps a person calm down and focus. the taste of smoke is enjoyable to smokers. smoking is also a social event and it gives you something to do in between talking. also, when you're waiting for something, like a bus or a train, you can occupy yourself by smoking. yes, to me these are shitty reasons considering the cost (both in health and in money) but they are most common.
its like drugs, its addicted, but why they allow it, why they band Weed rather than tobacco, because smoking KILLS, and killing the earth rubbish is Good
Think about it for one second, why there is a cigarette, because they want u dead, the earlier the better, you are a cost to this earth, each one of you make this earth dirty, you are useless the less u are the better to this world, less petroleum consumption, less plastic waste, less trouble, less everything so less human rubbish is better, Now do you understand so dont be so proud of smoking, think read more book and educate your self and dont be the cost to this earth
All this propaganda about cigarettes is so overblown its not funny. There is nothing wrong with an occasional cigarette, but the problem began when people started abusing tobacco and smoking a pack a day. Your lungs clean out, but these people dont give them a chance too. A few cigarettes a week is enjoyable and allows time to recuperate
I agree as well. Let smokers smoke if they want to. Its a choice and they knew the risks when they chose to smoke. Stop telling people all this stuff they already knew to begin with.
Im a smoker. I know the risks. As long as no one tries to preach shit to me I'm fine. Denying what comes with smoking just makes you look like a fuckin' jackass. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy Lucky Strikes.
Good...so people are educated. Smoking kills. As a NON-smoker, I still feel if adult Americans choose to smoke, they should be allowed to. And if anyone wants to preach to those people, they should take a long, hard look at how healthy *they* are before doing so.
i used to be a marlboro man, i smoked like an old west freight train.... right up until i had a heard attack and had to have open heart surgery, then i quit, but by then it was a little to late, the damage had been done. dont let that happen to you! dont never start, you wont never have no regrets. thanxgiving 2010 i will be smokefree for 10 yrs, and i dont regret quitting none at all.
They raised cig taxes in Tennessee to go on school lunches. Well, I quit. Now Liberals, your freeloading children can go hungry in school! Congrats, you won!
You should have been thanking me instead of judging me.
Isn't it funny how smoking is down but cancer is going through the roof in the USA? Could it be the stuff you are eating? Next, let's tax fast food to about $12 a burger! I don't eat fast food, so I don't care. Fair enogh?
@astrofrk ...They raised cig taxes in Tennessee to go on school lunches. Well, I quit. Now Liberals, your freeloading children can go hungry in school! Congrats, you won!
You should have been thanking me instead of judging me.
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Most smokies didn't quit because they were hopelessly addicted. The liberal kids are eating quite well in school now......pulled pork BBQ....steak every Thursday....keep smoking smokies and help the kids, don't be a quitter like astrofreak!
fuck this libral shit. yeah go ahead stop making cigs say bye bye to billions of tax dollars just because someone dosent think like u.. make them wrong? librals that want everyone to think like them people are gunna do what they want
i smoked for over a decade, 92 - 05, and have discovered that smoking cigarettes (a very sick complication of life) is actually the equivalent to having a lobotomy. it just turns you into a cyclic fuckwit drone who's self-impressions are blown beyond the stratosphere. ever since quitting i've had much better orgasms, etc. much better everything.... to those who simply MUST smoke - i recommend American Spirits.
what i wanna knoe is what do these people get out of being anti smoking campaign why do they care smoke if you want to if not you could die when your 80 who gives a shit anyway
No, wikipedia says (and you may want to verify this elsewhere) that the three men who portrayed the 'Marlboro Man' -- Wayne McLaren, David McLean and Dick Hammer -- had a worse fate than this man -- they all died of lung cancer.
@ganjakonsument sure its healthy huh. How about people that are addicted to it and get crazy in their heads. I've seen it happen. And besides, it's even worse than tobacco. Reseach has prooved that 1 joint is the equivilant to a package of cigarettes containing tar and carbon dioxide. So SMOKE TOBACCO!
just another man who believe everything "science" sais...
if you watch tv every day, you also addicted to tv. but tv is legal, how could that be???
and yeah, some ppl get crazy, but thats not because of the weed, it's because they cant handle it. and on top of that, if someone tells you everyday that something makes you ill, it will make you ill, you call that placebo. and thats the problem in our system: alcohol and tobacco are the most dangerous drugs, but they're still legal
@ganjakonsument sure they're legal, Weed is also legal, well here it is. And you know why they're legal?? Cause the gouvernement gets tons of money by selling cigarettes and alcohol. And if it was forbidden, ppl would get really angry. Alcohol and cigarettes are not considered a drug. They're considered a 'bad habit'. Weed is considered a drug in most countries, exapt Holland, Belgium and Switserland.
@ganjakonsument yeah you're right. Ppl should know it for themselves. And with the weed stuff, i know what it is cause its legal here. I don't mind ppl smoking ganja as long as they behave normally and do what they have to do. I do it myself sometimes though. Makes you feel relaxed and stuff.
What do you call McDonald? its when you overuse something that's when it starts going wrong. The government in Sweden has a monopoly on alcohol, what do you call that? alcohol can cause liver disfunction
yeah, youre fucking right. but in our society,the people are used to look away and close their eyes. when people I know go to mc donalds and i say: no i dont eat that shit, they look at my like i'm a fool, but they are the idiots, becauce they destroy the earth and they don't even know...
@ganjakonsument I'm not a capitalist and I defend the use of tobacco. I defend it because everyone should have the choice to ingest whatever they like in whatever way they like without people hassling them about it. Just the word GANJA in your name signifies that you SHOULD feel the same way. You I am sure have had people impede on your rights, so what the fuck makes you believe you should impede on the rights of others, blaming it on "capitalism"? Shame on you... I grow my own tobacco & ganja.
@ganjakonsument according to studies poor people die more often than rich due to smoking tobacco. Point is that tobacco will always be - advertising however must be illegal. my pov
@LWL91 No, poor people tend to die because of lack of other things. Like maybe food, shelter, medical care. There are shit load of poor people who cant even afford cigarettes and die. Hmm. I wonder People in Mozambique are lucky to make it to 40 while people in France have a life expectancy of mid 70's at least. Guess who smokes a lot and have pretty stable economy? The french. Guess who has a political shitstorm and no cigarettes. Africa!
@POTATER1228 ....people who live in affluent countries who smoke live longer because they have health insurance that pays for their tracheotomy so they can smoke through a hole in their neck. The poor Africans can't do that. Thats why cigarette companies love African nations. The people who smoke there die so quick that they're not around to give warning to anybody else. It's a mass suicide sponsored by the cigarette companies.
@teddysalad65 Right... because affluent countries like the U.S. for example have wonderful health insurance, where everyone is well taken care of for their health and EVERYONE can get life-saving surgery. And totally, Africa is suffering from massive cases of death not because of Political agendas both in the past and present *cough* Apartheid *cough* or the lack of clean food and water, violence, and general mayhem. Nope, its a stick of TAR AND TOBACCO that's killing them.
@teddysalad65 Right, along with that INFAMOUS Cancer Epidemic! Not at all the AIDS epidemic. I mean, AIDS killing Africans HAHAHAH how deliciously absurd! Its obviously the cigarettes! In case, you cant tell, I'm rolling my eyes. Tobacco is definitely not the primary source of Africa;s woes
@POTATER1228 >"Tobacco is definitely not the primary source of Africa;s woes <"
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It isn't helping to make things better dude. Spending money on butts instead of food is not cool when you live in poverty. And for the cigarette companies to be able to suck billions out of those economies with very little regulation isn't too cool either. And a cigarette is a lot more than a stick of tar and tobacco, tobacco just fucks up your lungs, its the other 300+ ingredients that cause the cancers.
@teddysalad65 Cigarettes are cheaper than food, and it's one of the few luxuries they have. And only about 40 chemicals, (not 300)in Cigarettes are linked to carcinogens. Want me to list some of the chemicals in average cigarettes? Acetic acid (vinegar), Bitter Almond Oil, Alfalfa extract! Truth is a lot of the chemicals you find in cigarettes you eat everyday, even the artificial ones like Xantham Gum. And Cigarettes are a raindrop in the shitstorm Africa goes through. So insignificant
@POTATER1228 ..>"Cigarettes are cheaper than food, and it's one of the few luxuries they have. And only about 40 chemicals, (not 300)"<<
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Only fourty known carcinogens in a cigarette? I stand corrected...only FOURTY. Why wouldn't we expect Africans to fall prey to well researched , slick advertising campaigns when they could be buying food instead? And if you're calling health destroying cigarettes a "luxury" I'm wondering what your agenda is right now.
@teddysalad65 40 are LINKED to carinocgenic. So is burning fossil fuel, and the sun which is HOT AS HELL in Africa. And a cigarette is a luxury that is bad for you in large amounts. Wanna know what else is a luxury that;s killing you? McDonalds. Alchohol, Unprotected sex (if your not careful), desserts, candy, Soda, processed food. At least some of these things Im willing to bet you enjoy at one time or the other. Maybe even reguarly? Think about that the next time you enjoy yourself
@POTATER1228 >"Wanna know what else is a luxury that;s killing you? McDonalds. Alchohol, Unprotected sex (if your not careful), desserts, candy, Soda, processed food.'<
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Other than alcohol, which has benefits if used in moderation, none of these products or actions are additive like cigarettes are. Cigarettes are completely different, they are pure evil as far as your health is concerned, the most vile product you could ever think to use and have been deliberately designed to be addictive.
@teddysalad65 these products are not addictive? Hahaha thats a riot. Try opening up a bag of lays potato chips? a BIG bag of lays potatoe chips. Now have some people try it. Just give them one or two chips? whats their natural instinct to grab more! Even if you say, "Just grab one chip" the natural thing to do is for them to grab a handful. Why? Becasue companies MADE them like addictive like taht. They;re loades with salt, sugars, processed ingredients that human brains are WIRED to indulge in
@teddysalad65 Mcdonalds has this EXACT same cocktail of sugars, salts, and processed ingredients that make them irresitiable to the average consumer? Why? Because of evolution are brains WANT To indulge in these things. Look at Super size me, the film demonstrates this? And dont believe me about processed foods? I'll link you to a video that proves that too. I'll sned you a message! I avoid McDonalds, soda, and chips THOSE things will kill you! And hurt you more than the occasional tobacco!
@POTATER1228 ...Dude, you're a borderline mental case or a paid shill for the tobacco companies, one or the other. The discussion was whether it was a good idea for tobacco companies to take advantage of poor African people by using the same slick advertising campaigns that tricked millions of Americans decades ago. Plus they get to do it with almost no regulation. You try turning it into a food fight and its not working. Were not talking about food, this is about the evils of cigarette smoking.
@teddysalad65 insults really? that's what your coming too? Is that your last resort in a debate, where I have disproved you time and time again? Since I proved that cigarettes are less harmful then you thought. that all you demonize a cimple stick of tobacco? Please. I like how your trying to change the issue, and not giving any credidenct to MY reserach. and How I proved your eveil snack foods are killing you more than Tobacco. Point is cigarettes are a small puddle in the raging sea of Africa
@teddysalad65 and what "regulation" would you like in Africa that your are insinuating the USA has? please tell me so that I may correct you again. My arguements have been valid. Maybe even MORe calid than yours. I've actually sent you some proof. And also, look for it yourself all the horrible additives and chemicals in your lays that are killing you faster. and people taking advantage of African people? That's their government, that's what you should be angry about!
@teddysalad65 And If I was a mental case like you said? would I be able to make such clear concise arguemnts for a products seen as "evil" by you? which is such a subjective word. And If I was paid by big tobacco, would I waste time trying to convince ONE youtuber? who clearly will not be swayed by logic? Clearly you have lost the arguement. If Cigarettes are evil so is the Advertisisng industry, Fast food, Alchohol, obesity, over indulgence, sugar, salt, and baked alaska. So evil.
@POTATER1228 ...One more time dude. I'm arguing that it's a horrible idea that the cigarettes have free reign in Africa and that cigarettes are horrible for ANYONE'S health and you keep trying to throw other things like fatty foods and salty snacks in the way. This is not a bad food thread, it's a cigarette thread. Cigarettes can cause cancer. I know some foods can too but that's NOT what the discussion is about here! Stop using bad food as a reason that cigarettes are ok! Thats ridiculous!
@teddysalad65 that is a legitame agrguement, You're demonizing cigarettes, and not pointing to things that are worse than. Like the rampant problems of those "evil" carcinogenic, heart disease causing alchohols and fatty burgers. But really, cigarettes are a drop in the bucket for Africa. Fix the economy, health problems, over the government. If Africa stopped smoking would the help at all? NO! You ignoring my claims of other hazardous vices is like you trying to ignore Africa's TRUE issues
@teddysalad65 If Africa was tobacco free, The average life span would not stop being 40-50. People would still be murdered, children be raped and starved. All sorts of problems would still happen. I still like how you DONT adress my other points but still sitck to your "cigaretes is evil" schtick. the damage of a Macdonalds diet is worse than a cigarette diet FOR A MONTH. Look at supersize me. "Stop using bad food as a reason that cigarettes are ok! Thats ridiculous!" that;s like you pointing
@teddysalad65 You poinint to insiginicance of Africa's woes instead focusing on a cigarettes. Cigarettesare fine as long as you dont abuse them. Like Alchohol, like food, like ANYTHING in life. If you have a problem and smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, thats a problem likewise id your an alchoholic or eat Mcdonalds EVERY DAY.
@teddysalad65 I'll end this HERE with one statement: if Cigarettes are a problem in Africa like you say, then is only an ailment of the affliction, not the source. cutting it out wont end anything of signicant. Like stopping bleeding, without using disinfectant. It only continue to rot and fester
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marijuana is not healthy, it still damages your lungs with smoke and it damages your brain and makes you paranoid and stupid. It may not contain the tar and other toxins cigs do but it's still harmful. Cigs at least are not known to damage your brain, but I could be wrong, even alcohol does that if you get drunk often enough
It's amazing how many resources are spent doing this anti-smoke commercials when drugs and alcoholism are a bigger threat, you don't get drunk from a cigarette and end up crashing against something and killing people, how come the anti-drug campaigns aren't as aggressive and disgusting as these ones?
because are goverment dosent want to spend the money on things like that, they would just rather waist it on stupid shit. and keep the money they dont spend. like all this anti-marijuana bullshit. we can get gas,clothes and tons of money off of it. let alone hundreds of jobs
@NiobNeo did you read only a piece of my comment? Do yo get "under the influence" by a cigarrette? NO, all I said was "I wish the anti-drug campaigns were as agressive and disgusting as this one," did I hurt your feelings with that?
ROFL I stopped after I smoked about 50 cigarettes because I realized it'd be pretty hard to quit if I got addicted :) The sooner the better. In addition, I suffer from asthma.
I'm 19 and I've been smoking malboro reds since I was 16, thank god I was able to switch to menthols, less stress on your lungs. I'll stop smoking when i'm informed that I have health problems....
my friends grandfather lived to be 101yrs old and smoked lucky strikes since he was 14......i watched him smoke one and he finished it in 4 drags.he died of natural causes.never had lung cancer.
Typisch charakterlose Amerikaner! Erst Marlboro geniessen und dann jammern! Habt Ihr denn gar keinen Stolz? Steht zu Eueren Taten und sterbt wie Männer!
Typically unprincipled Americans! Only Marlboro enjoy, and then complain! Have you no pride because? Is Your deeds, and to die like men!
Hell thats the best anti smoking add i have ever seen.
I had my 1st heart op at 29 as a result of smoking. Im now 38 still alive thank God and thank the royal Brompton London and i regret ever trying my first fag.
i know i must be an evil person, because i do know that it's a real person and that tobacco can cause cancer, but i watched this and could not stop laughing. I do smoke, but damn....this was funny.
You forgot about the anorexians, suicidals, fast-food junkies, soldiers, firemen, people who die from cancer or HIV/AIS and just about every person in the god damn world.
sunlight causes cancer. doing nothing can lead to cancer, drinking can lead to cancer, cancer is just a cellular mutation. We all will get cancer if we live long enough why not enjoy the time we have left with a nice cig? Yeah it increases your risk but so does driving your car or walking outside. Life is risk. Not everybody has a heartattack or contracts cancer from smoking some people live a long time.
Amen. I smoke, chew, dip and sometimes snuff. Am I gonna get cancer? Maybe. Now the question is: is that "cowboy" or any other anti-tobacco liberal there going to pay my hospital bill? Does anybody really care about the health of some redneck they would rather hate if they met me in person? No. So, liberals, let me smoke my damn tobacco and quit bitching. If you cared about health, you wouldn't be trying to ban even electronic cigarettes, that are proven not to be harmful at all to your health.
@MSfeller I'm a 38-year-old guy. I've smoked and dipped for 23 years. I am unapologetic about the fact that I love tobacco, so if people don't like the fact that I smoke and dip, it's just too damn bad for them; as far as I'm concerned, tobacco is truly one of life's great pleasures. [continued]
@Beorning1972 So which cancer do you want? -Lung cancer -Mouth cancer -Larynx cancer -Kidney cancer -Stomach cancer -Oral Cancer -Bladder Cancer -Throat cancer OR if you want you can have -Emphysema -Acute myeloid leukemia Take your pick bud. It's a long painful death but I'm sure your denial and self pity will save you.
@Jake68955 If you were more fact-driven and less of a hysterical scaremonger, you'd know that fewer than 10% of lifelong smokers die of cancer. Cardiovascular disease is the cause of the vast majority of smoking-related deaths. This is NOT to say that smoking is without risks: 50% of lifelong smokers die of smoking-related diseases. It's just to say that regurgitated scare tactics and cheap shots don't help your anti-tobacco cause even a tiny bit.
@Jake68955 I've come to realize that what boggles the mind of anti-tobacco folks is that rational, intelligent folks can look at the same set of facts and arrive at a different conclusion. If you want to argue that nicotine takes over one's mind and thoughts, I can't disabuse you of that notion, but it's at least as likely that you're simply privileging your own opinion on the matter to such an extent that you simply can't understand why someone would not share your opinion.
so i guess every non-biased medical professional has been wrong for 40 years? and nicotine is addictive if it wasn't that addictive why can't 90% of people quit?
@Jake68955 I can't have a discussion w/ someone who's not going to deal with facts. The non-biased medical FACTS are that fewer than 10% of lifelong smokers develop ANY form of tobacco-related cancer--though 50% of lifelong smokers overall will die of a smoking-related disease (usually cardiovascular). Were you just really, really hoping that the numbers would be larger? A 50% death rate for lifelong smokers is pretty damn high already, IMO. Or is this just more about you "winning" an argument?
@Jake68955 Humans have been shown to be extraordinarily poor at judging relative risk, both positive and negative. I would never argue that someone should become a smoker--that's a personal decision, based on individual understanding of the potential costs and benefits involved. And if rationality REALLY ruled this discussion, that's where it would end....
@Jake68955 ...Because in truth, we all CHOOSE to do things that endanger our lives to a greater or lesser degree. To argue that the choices YOU make in such matters should be the choices that I have to make as well, is immoral. What if I prefer to take on the greater risk of smoking because I like it, than the potentially lesser risk of one of your common activities (say, eating grilled meat)? Would I then hover over you and nag you about ingesting carcinogens? No--I'm not that kind of jerk.
i'm just trying to convince you not to kill yourself, don't take it as i'm trying to put you down. if you feel wasting your hard earned money on cancer sticks then by all means go ahead and kill yourself
@Jake68955 You may believe that you are trying to do a good deed or something, but your tactics force the exact opposite conclusion. I'm not looking for an excuse to smoke. Nor have I ever denied the reality that smoking is very risky. But in this reply, you've moved on from health scare-tactics to the economics of smoking--a familiar tactic, and one that doesn't bode well for your ability to have a rational conversation.
@Jake68955 Trust me, I can list more potential negatives about being a smoker than most any anti-smoking campaigner I've ever met. So can most smokers. In fact, survey after survey shows that smokers, as a group, estimate the health risks of smoking to be FAR greater than they actually are. And smokers also perceive the risks associated with smoking to be higher than do non-smokers, former smokers, or even doctors. What this should tell you is that scare tactics simply don't work.
Yeah smoke for freedom!!!!
Nobody1846 2 months ago
I think cigarette companies should be allowed to advertise like they use to. It is unfair that anti-smoking advertisements to air when tobacco companies advertisements cannot. I remember seeing commercials when I was a kid and never did they make me want to smoke and I've never have.
theulmer 2 months ago
whats the point of smoking cigarettes? you dont get high like weed and they are expensive as shit! if people wanna smoke and sound like a robot from the future let them
BEARARMZ 3 months ago
@BEARARMZ the nicotine in cigarettes helps a person calm down and focus. the taste of smoke is enjoyable to smokers. smoking is also a social event and it gives you something to do in between talking. also, when you're waiting for something, like a bus or a train, you can occupy yourself by smoking. yes, to me these are shitty reasons considering the cost (both in health and in money) but they are most common.
DangerSheep 2 months ago
@DangerSheep i know i use to smoke but i quit. weed is better
BEARARMZ 2 months ago
This made me wanna stop smoking ..
Dukesofwar 3 months ago
Great great ad +++
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its like drugs, its addicted, but why they allow it, why they band Weed rather than tobacco, because smoking KILLS, and killing the earth rubbish is Good
junaidiw0681 4 months ago
Think about it for one second, why there is a cigarette, because they want u dead, the earlier the better, you are a cost to this earth, each one of you make this earth dirty, you are useless the less u are the better to this world, less petroleum consumption, less plastic waste, less trouble, less everything so less human rubbish is better, Now do you understand so dont be so proud of smoking, think read more book and educate your self and dont be the cost to this earth
junaidiw0681 4 months ago
How bad is 10 cigarettes a day. If you think that's too much, tell me so I can cut back.
TeknikAlity34 5 months ago
@TeknikAlity34 thats half a pack a day. not good. smoke like 3
BEARARMZ 3 months ago
"rarrr rarrr aarrrr rarrarrr" (Denis Leary)
boiledhooker 6 months ago
All this propaganda about cigarettes is so overblown its not funny. There is nothing wrong with an occasional cigarette, but the problem began when people started abusing tobacco and smoking a pack a day. Your lungs clean out, but these people dont give them a chance too. A few cigarettes a week is enjoyable and allows time to recuperate
koryan 6 months ago
@koryan SHHHHH dont tell that to the anti smoking fags youll make them mad
ilovemesomechicken 6 months ago
@koryan the companies put more shit in to make you addicted.
BEARARMZ 3 months ago
I agree as well. Let smokers smoke if they want to. Its a choice and they knew the risks when they chose to smoke. Stop telling people all this stuff they already knew to begin with.
NaziZombieKiller1991 7 months ago
Damn,that's how my grandpa used to talk...
<3
Pan0sTheGreek 8 months ago
Im a smoker. I know the risks. As long as no one tries to preach shit to me I'm fine. Denying what comes with smoking just makes you look like a fuckin' jackass. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy Lucky Strikes.
So everyone shut the fuck up.
ILessThan3ToJizz420 10 months ago
oh i wish i had a packet of marlboro right now i can only dream of it until monday then i get 2 packets :) i hardly cant wait for it wish me luck :D
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davidsan1231 10 months ago
Good...so people are educated. Smoking kills. As a NON-smoker, I still feel if adult Americans choose to smoke, they should be allowed to. And if anyone wants to preach to those people, they should take a long, hard look at how healthy *they* are before doing so.
laronmaron98 11 months ago
kind of a catchy jingle
thehowbout12s 1 year ago
Marlboro, killing people since 1924
hoLocronKiller 1 year ago 5
this reminds me of 2 things i need to do. i need a smoke right now and south park is comeing on.
dipinprint 1 year ago 3
i used to be a marlboro man, i smoked like an old west freight train.... right up until i had a heard attack and had to have open heart surgery, then i quit, but by then it was a little to late, the damage had been done. dont let that happen to you! dont never start, you wont never have no regrets. thanxgiving 2010 i will be smokefree for 10 yrs, and i dont regret quitting none at all.
bk2158 1 year ago
WIIIIIIIIIIN
Bleumange 1 year ago
Yep, he must of smoked cowboy killers.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
They raised cig taxes in Tennessee to go on school lunches. Well, I quit. Now Liberals, your freeloading children can go hungry in school! Congrats, you won!
You should have been thanking me instead of judging me.
Isn't it funny how smoking is down but cancer is going through the roof in the USA? Could it be the stuff you are eating? Next, let's tax fast food to about $12 a burger! I don't eat fast food, so I don't care. Fair enogh?
astrofrk 1 year ago
@astrofrk ...They raised cig taxes in Tennessee to go on school lunches. Well, I quit. Now Liberals, your freeloading children can go hungry in school! Congrats, you won!
You should have been thanking me instead of judging me.
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Most smokies didn't quit because they were hopelessly addicted. The liberal kids are eating quite well in school now......pulled pork BBQ....steak every Thursday....keep smoking smokies and help the kids, don't be a quitter like astrofreak!
teddysalad65 1 year ago 6
Hey, at least the Marlboro man didn't advertise to kids. I'm looking at you Joe Camel.
mantooth126 1 year ago
smoke weed not tobacco its nasty
MegaLazybastard 1 year ago
@MegaLazybastard Put both in a bong and you will have the strongest hit of your life.
It's fucking nasty though.
englandinacan 1 year ago
I love suckin' on my cowboy killers.
FasterLouder 1 year ago
fuck this libral shit. yeah go ahead stop making cigs say bye bye to billions of tax dollars just because someone dosent think like u.. make them wrong? librals that want everyone to think like them people are gunna do what they want
austinver 1 year ago
Domi arigoto, Mr Roboto, Himitsu wo Shiri tai
k0kidd 1 year ago
Oh, and I brew my own alcohol. The best things in life are free after all :P...
goondropapill 1 year ago
stop acting like every smoker is gonna smoke their whole lives!
grapefeeling 1 year ago
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NotABillieJeanLover 1 year ago
i smoked for over a decade, 92 - 05, and have discovered that smoking cigarettes (a very sick complication of life) is actually the equivalent to having a lobotomy. it just turns you into a cyclic fuckwit drone who's self-impressions are blown beyond the stratosphere. ever since quitting i've had much better orgasms, etc. much better everything.... to those who simply MUST smoke - i recommend American Spirits.
P00PST0MP 1 year ago
oooooopfer
msmsms09 1 year ago
It reminds me of the electro-larynx old guy from 'My Name is Earl'.
rugbytlse 1 year ago
what i wanna knoe is what do these people get out of being anti smoking campaign why do they care smoke if you want to if not you could die when your 80 who gives a shit anyway
poopmcscoopface 1 year ago
this is a really good smokin song! i love to sing it and enjoy a red early in the morn
spencer7379 1 year ago 32
this isnt the real marlboro man is it ????
ESEGHOST1 1 year ago
@ESEGHOST1
No, wikipedia says (and you may want to verify this elsewhere) that the three men who portrayed the 'Marlboro Man' -- Wayne McLaren, David McLean and Dick Hammer -- had a worse fate than this man -- they all died of lung cancer.
borbetomagus 1 year ago
lol :))
iszlaitamas 2 years ago
what are the stars that appear at the end? O.o could it be a subliminal message? XD
superloko666 2 years ago
non smokers die too
Skoomzer 2 years ago
ı love cowboy boots
kemalyus 2 years ago
tobacco is shit. what it just destroys your body.
everyone should smoke marijuana, it's natural and it's healthy. so why smoking tobacco, if you can smoke ganja?
ganjakonsument 2 years ago
@ganjakonsument sure its healthy huh. How about people that are addicted to it and get crazy in their heads. I've seen it happen. And besides, it's even worse than tobacco. Reseach has prooved that 1 joint is the equivilant to a package of cigarettes containing tar and carbon dioxide. So SMOKE TOBACCO!
fryskhanne 2 years ago
just another man who believe everything "science" sais...
if you watch tv every day, you also addicted to tv. but tv is legal, how could that be???
and yeah, some ppl get crazy, but thats not because of the weed, it's because they cant handle it. and on top of that, if someone tells you everyday that something makes you ill, it will make you ill, you call that placebo. and thats the problem in our system: alcohol and tobacco are the most dangerous drugs, but they're still legal
ganjakonsument 2 years ago
@ganjakonsument sure they're legal, Weed is also legal, well here it is. And you know why they're legal?? Cause the gouvernement gets tons of money by selling cigarettes and alcohol. And if it was forbidden, ppl would get really angry. Alcohol and cigarettes are not considered a drug. They're considered a 'bad habit'. Weed is considered a drug in most countries, exapt Holland, Belgium and Switserland.
fryskhanne 2 years ago
true words man, but i think the government supposed to feel ashamed, they fool the ppl and they know what they do...
most ppl don't even know what weed is, but they hate it, or some of them think you hallucinate when you smoke it, and i could go on and on...
there are so many lies about it and the mankind believes everything, it's so crazy
ganjakonsument 2 years ago
@ganjakonsument yeah you're right. Ppl should know it for themselves. And with the weed stuff, i know what it is cause its legal here. I don't mind ppl smoking ganja as long as they behave normally and do what they have to do. I do it myself sometimes though. Makes you feel relaxed and stuff.
fryskhanne 2 years ago
only potheads defend the use of marijuana...
modestoca25 2 years ago
and only capitalists defend the use of tobacco.
man i hate capitalism, you make money out of the sickness of people
ganjakonsument 2 years ago 9
What do you call McDonald? its when you overuse something that's when it starts going wrong. The government in Sweden has a monopoly on alcohol, what do you call that? alcohol can cause liver disfunction
imorron 1 year ago
@imorron
yeah, youre fucking right. but in our society,the people are used to look away and close their eyes. when people I know go to mc donalds and i say: no i dont eat that shit, they look at my like i'm a fool, but they are the idiots, becauce they destroy the earth and they don't even know...
ganjakonsument 1 year ago
Well said :)
imorron 1 year ago
@ganjakonsument I'm not a capitalist and I defend the use of tobacco. I defend it because everyone should have the choice to ingest whatever they like in whatever way they like without people hassling them about it. Just the word GANJA in your name signifies that you SHOULD feel the same way. You I am sure have had people impede on your rights, so what the fuck makes you believe you should impede on the rights of others, blaming it on "capitalism"? Shame on you... I grow my own tobacco & ganja.
goondropapill 1 year ago
@ganjakonsument they earn millions on anti smoking campaigns
371944a 1 year ago
In comes the capitalist.
People weigh the positives against the negatives, and see that smoking produces greater net pleasure than not smoking.
xoxgodofgodsgodxx 1 year ago
@ganjakonsument
tobacco was smoked before America was colonized -_-
rayreturnz 1 year ago 2
@ganjakonsument according to studies poor people die more often than rich due to smoking tobacco. Point is that tobacco will always be - advertising however must be illegal. my pov
LWL91 1 year ago
@LWL91 No, poor people tend to die because of lack of other things. Like maybe food, shelter, medical care. There are shit load of poor people who cant even afford cigarettes and die. Hmm. I wonder People in Mozambique are lucky to make it to 40 while people in France have a life expectancy of mid 70's at least. Guess who smokes a lot and have pretty stable economy? The french. Guess who has a political shitstorm and no cigarettes. Africa!
POTATER1228 11 months ago
@POTATER1228 ....people who live in affluent countries who smoke live longer because they have health insurance that pays for their tracheotomy so they can smoke through a hole in their neck. The poor Africans can't do that. Thats why cigarette companies love African nations. The people who smoke there die so quick that they're not around to give warning to anybody else. It's a mass suicide sponsored by the cigarette companies.
teddysalad65 11 months ago
@teddysalad65 Right... because affluent countries like the U.S. for example have wonderful health insurance, where everyone is well taken care of for their health and EVERYONE can get life-saving surgery. And totally, Africa is suffering from massive cases of death not because of Political agendas both in the past and present *cough* Apartheid *cough* or the lack of clean food and water, violence, and general mayhem. Nope, its a stick of TAR AND TOBACCO that's killing them.
POTATER1228 11 months ago
@teddysalad65 Right, along with that INFAMOUS Cancer Epidemic! Not at all the AIDS epidemic. I mean, AIDS killing Africans HAHAHAH how deliciously absurd! Its obviously the cigarettes! In case, you cant tell, I'm rolling my eyes. Tobacco is definitely not the primary source of Africa;s woes
POTATER1228 11 months ago
@POTATER1228 >"Tobacco is definitely not the primary source of Africa;s woes <"
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It isn't helping to make things better dude. Spending money on butts instead of food is not cool when you live in poverty. And for the cigarette companies to be able to suck billions out of those economies with very little regulation isn't too cool either. And a cigarette is a lot more than a stick of tar and tobacco, tobacco just fucks up your lungs, its the other 300+ ingredients that cause the cancers.
teddysalad65 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 Cigarettes are cheaper than food, and it's one of the few luxuries they have. And only about 40 chemicals, (not 300)in Cigarettes are linked to carcinogens. Want me to list some of the chemicals in average cigarettes? Acetic acid (vinegar), Bitter Almond Oil, Alfalfa extract! Truth is a lot of the chemicals you find in cigarettes you eat everyday, even the artificial ones like Xantham Gum. And Cigarettes are a raindrop in the shitstorm Africa goes through. So insignificant
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@POTATER1228 ..>"Cigarettes are cheaper than food, and it's one of the few luxuries they have. And only about 40 chemicals, (not 300)"<<
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Only fourty known carcinogens in a cigarette? I stand corrected...only FOURTY. Why wouldn't we expect Africans to fall prey to well researched , slick advertising campaigns when they could be buying food instead? And if you're calling health destroying cigarettes a "luxury" I'm wondering what your agenda is right now.
teddysalad65 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 40 are LINKED to carinocgenic. So is burning fossil fuel, and the sun which is HOT AS HELL in Africa. And a cigarette is a luxury that is bad for you in large amounts. Wanna know what else is a luxury that;s killing you? McDonalds. Alchohol, Unprotected sex (if your not careful), desserts, candy, Soda, processed food. At least some of these things Im willing to bet you enjoy at one time or the other. Maybe even reguarly? Think about that the next time you enjoy yourself
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@POTATER1228 >"Wanna know what else is a luxury that;s killing you? McDonalds. Alchohol, Unprotected sex (if your not careful), desserts, candy, Soda, processed food.'<
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Other than alcohol, which has benefits if used in moderation, none of these products or actions are additive like cigarettes are. Cigarettes are completely different, they are pure evil as far as your health is concerned, the most vile product you could ever think to use and have been deliberately designed to be addictive.
teddysalad65 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 these products are not addictive? Hahaha thats a riot. Try opening up a bag of lays potato chips? a BIG bag of lays potatoe chips. Now have some people try it. Just give them one or two chips? whats their natural instinct to grab more! Even if you say, "Just grab one chip" the natural thing to do is for them to grab a handful. Why? Becasue companies MADE them like addictive like taht. They;re loades with salt, sugars, processed ingredients that human brains are WIRED to indulge in
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 Mcdonalds has this EXACT same cocktail of sugars, salts, and processed ingredients that make them irresitiable to the average consumer? Why? Because of evolution are brains WANT To indulge in these things. Look at Super size me, the film demonstrates this? And dont believe me about processed foods? I'll link you to a video that proves that too. I'll sned you a message! I avoid McDonalds, soda, and chips THOSE things will kill you! And hurt you more than the occasional tobacco!
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@POTATER1228 ...Dude, you're a borderline mental case or a paid shill for the tobacco companies, one or the other. The discussion was whether it was a good idea for tobacco companies to take advantage of poor African people by using the same slick advertising campaigns that tricked millions of Americans decades ago. Plus they get to do it with almost no regulation. You try turning it into a food fight and its not working. Were not talking about food, this is about the evils of cigarette smoking.
teddysalad65 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 insults really? that's what your coming too? Is that your last resort in a debate, where I have disproved you time and time again? Since I proved that cigarettes are less harmful then you thought. that all you demonize a cimple stick of tobacco? Please. I like how your trying to change the issue, and not giving any credidenct to MY reserach. and How I proved your eveil snack foods are killing you more than Tobacco. Point is cigarettes are a small puddle in the raging sea of Africa
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 and what "regulation" would you like in Africa that your are insinuating the USA has? please tell me so that I may correct you again. My arguements have been valid. Maybe even MORe calid than yours. I've actually sent you some proof. And also, look for it yourself all the horrible additives and chemicals in your lays that are killing you faster. and people taking advantage of African people? That's their government, that's what you should be angry about!
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 And If I was a mental case like you said? would I be able to make such clear concise arguemnts for a products seen as "evil" by you? which is such a subjective word. And If I was paid by big tobacco, would I waste time trying to convince ONE youtuber? who clearly will not be swayed by logic? Clearly you have lost the arguement. If Cigarettes are evil so is the Advertisisng industry, Fast food, Alchohol, obesity, over indulgence, sugar, salt, and baked alaska. So evil.
POTATER1228 10 months ago
@POTATER1228 ...One more time dude. I'm arguing that it's a horrible idea that the cigarettes have free reign in Africa and that cigarettes are horrible for ANYONE'S health and you keep trying to throw other things like fatty foods and salty snacks in the way. This is not a bad food thread, it's a cigarette thread. Cigarettes can cause cancer. I know some foods can too but that's NOT what the discussion is about here! Stop using bad food as a reason that cigarettes are ok! Thats ridiculous!
teddysalad65 10 months ago
@teddysalad65 that is a legitame agrguement, You're demonizing cigarettes, and not pointing to things that are worse than. Like the rampant problems of those "evil" carcinogenic, heart disease causing alchohols and fatty burgers. But really, cigarettes are a drop in the bucket for Africa. Fix the economy, health problems, over the government. If Africa stopped smoking would the help at all? NO! You ignoring my claims of other hazardous vices is like you trying to ignore Africa's TRUE issues
POTATER1228 9 months ago
@teddysalad65 If Africa was tobacco free, The average life span would not stop being 40-50. People would still be murdered, children be raped and starved. All sorts of problems would still happen. I still like how you DONT adress my other points but still sitck to your "cigaretes is evil" schtick. the damage of a Macdonalds diet is worse than a cigarette diet FOR A MONTH. Look at supersize me. "Stop using bad food as a reason that cigarettes are ok! Thats ridiculous!" that;s like you pointing
POTATER1228 9 months ago
@teddysalad65 You poinint to insiginicance of Africa's woes instead focusing on a cigarettes. Cigarettesare fine as long as you dont abuse them. Like Alchohol, like food, like ANYTHING in life. If you have a problem and smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, thats a problem likewise id your an alchoholic or eat Mcdonalds EVERY DAY.
POTATER1228 9 months ago
@teddysalad65 I'll end this HERE with one statement: if Cigarettes are a problem in Africa like you say, then is only an ailment of the affliction, not the source. cutting it out wont end anything of signicant. Like stopping bleeding, without using disinfectant. It only continue to rot and fester
POTATER1228 9 months ago
Only misinformed people make blatant generalizations
thelip285 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
marijuana is not healthy, it still damages your lungs with smoke and it damages your brain and makes you paranoid and stupid. It may not contain the tar and other toxins cigs do but it's still harmful. Cigs at least are not known to damage your brain, but I could be wrong, even alcohol does that if you get drunk often enough
modestoca25 2 years ago
Marijuana doesn't damage your brain man. Get your facts right, then start posting crap all over the place.
cracadarta 2 years ago
so you say that it is not harmful to your body at all? So your pro weed but not tobacco?
imorron 1 year ago
Yes, I'm pro weed and not tobacco.
cracadarta 1 year ago
So you say that Weed is not as much harmful to your body.
imorron 1 year ago
If used properly, weed is not harmful at all.
cracadarta 1 year ago
LOL, Yippie ki YO haha
heisman79 2 years ago
I love Tobacco. Smoke all the time.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
This dude died from lung cancer. Ahahahahaha
Tigermoon1950 2 years ago
Fuck u cock monkey
it's not a funny issue at least he tryed informing people of not making the same mistake
flazy 2 years ago
I hope you smoke.....LOL
Tigermoon1950 2 years ago
This is a good informative vid but you shouldn't take from it that you have to try and stop everyone from making their own choices.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
@flazy LOL....KMA
Tigermoon1950 1 year ago
wait is that really like the guy who played the marlboro cowboy or no?
krazydude34 2 years ago
no he died a while ago
daseemore 2 years ago
if you don´t smoke, guess what?... you gone die toooooo!!!!
cacota10 2 years ago
and you know what. if you smoke you can get a big hole in your neck and die from loung cancer
007james007v2 2 years ago
where the hell did you hear that?
Luigi84289 2 years ago
lol he says that in the song
007james007v2 2 years ago
It's amazing how many resources are spent doing this anti-smoke commercials when drugs and alcoholism are a bigger threat, you don't get drunk from a cigarette and end up crashing against something and killing people, how come the anti-drug campaigns aren't as aggressive and disgusting as these ones?
magnahelix 2 years ago
exactly.
fknwogmatee 2 years ago
because are goverment dosent want to spend the money on things like that, they would just rather waist it on stupid shit. and keep the money they dont spend. like all this anti-marijuana bullshit. we can get gas,clothes and tons of money off of it. let alone hundreds of jobs
stonedkatt420 2 years ago
@magnahelix You dumbass... Of course smoking is the biggest health threat of all because it is most addictive and its death toll is unimaginable!
NiobNeo 1 year ago
@NiobNeo did you read only a piece of my comment? Do yo get "under the influence" by a cigarrette? NO, all I said was "I wish the anti-drug campaigns were as agressive and disgusting as this one," did I hurt your feelings with that?
magnahelix 1 year ago
@NiobNeo , Wrong, obesity kills way more people than smoking. Wake up !
n6ugy 1 year ago
i asked you because i don´t understand english very well.i write this because somebody think he must me dis
Slipknot1612 2 years ago
how could it not be against tobacco? Losing a loung or your toung and having a disgusting hole in your neck isn't a particulary lovely thing.
tilhon 2 years ago
I smoke , in fact im smoking right now.I think this is against tabacco.
boypaslot 2 years ago
is that for or against tobacco
Slipknot1612 2 years ago
you must be retarded
ihateobama4ever 2 years ago
fuck you
Slipknot1612 2 years ago
lmfao how sick is that ^^
IcyIce17 2 years ago
ROFL I stopped after I smoked about 50 cigarettes because I realized it'd be pretty hard to quit if I got addicted :) The sooner the better. In addition, I suffer from asthma.
Mehedict 2 years ago
I quit
well i m still holding one
munnumkhalid 2 years ago
he must of smoked 4 packs a day jesus you can over do it
nick8874 2 years ago
now this would make me stop smoking right away
telhacerta 2 years ago
i'll die with a cig in my mouth and my two 'birds' in the air saying "FUCK YOU WORLD, IM OUT!"
TKTK00 2 years ago
spoken like a true drug addict...fuck your family, friends, etc if you have any left at this point.
cotullaguy 2 years ago
watch my cigarettes pack collection video
antisekkia 2 years ago
Clearly, after reading the messages below, da-Nile is not just a river that runs through Egypt. Denial runs through this response board ;)
JohnnyTRex99 2 years ago
tobacco sux!
armidons 2 years ago
not funny
lordcabeludo 2 years ago
Saturday is fishday for me.
Really, no joke, I am eating smoked catfish, first time.Haven't figured out yet how they smoke underwater but the taste is great !
metalmarkholland 2 years ago
nonsmokers die ... ...every day!
EestlaneEstonian 2 years ago
Die man.. die!!!
EduardoMaia 2 years ago
so as smoker
AlexLococo 2 years ago
I'm 19 and I've been smoking malboro reds since I was 16, thank god I was able to switch to menthols, less stress on your lungs. I'll stop smoking when i'm informed that I have health problems....
JeffloveShanel 2 years ago
less tress to your lungs??? hmmm. or perhaps not? your lungs are useless sacks of tar.
MRkallek91 2 years ago
my friends grandfather lived to be 101yrs old and smoked lucky strikes since he was 14......i watched him smoke one and he finished it in 4 drags.he died of natural causes.never had lung cancer.
pantarafreak79 2 years ago
so much fucking propaganda
Thebikergolfboy 2 years ago
I quit drinking, so smokings all I got left. Although, I hope to quit smoking at some point, but not in the near future.
wetwilly02469 2 years ago
u stop when your doctor will predict your death within 5 months. But you can keep on smoking then.
vossenkuhl 2 years ago
Yeah dude I'll be 90 by that time anyway and who wants to be that old shitting your pants
wetwilly02469 2 years ago
in your dreams! my father was 50 when he died from a heart attack caused by 35 years of smoking.
I work in a hospital and see patients suffering every day. Smokers do NOT get 90!! They get cancer with about 50-60 and die cruely.
90, man, hahaha LOL!
vossenkuhl 2 years ago
Smokers get cancer??? AWESOME! I heard all about it on the news it looks so phat I can't wait.
wetwilly02469 2 years ago
And another thing...I'm doing my part in helping stimulate the economy with every pack of cigarettes I buy, so I'm a good American.
wetwilly02469 2 years ago
thank you kind sir
i do the same thing with my can of copenhagen
yall should be thanking us you greedy basterds
17REBELKID17 2 years ago
thats what im saying
valkyrie9002 2 years ago
Typisch charakterlose Amerikaner! Erst Marlboro geniessen und dann jammern! Habt Ihr denn gar keinen Stolz? Steht zu Eueren Taten und sterbt wie Männer!
Typically unprincipled Americans! Only Marlboro enjoy, and then complain! Have you no pride because? Is Your deeds, and to die like men!
Gnaucho 2 years ago
Really Gnaucho? Nice comments coming from the descendent of a Nazi. What's a real man? Tall, nordic and goosestepping?
JohnnyTRex99 2 years ago
Thee BEST anti-smoking commercial ever made! AND I'm glad to report he is STILL ALIVE! (How do I know? Im the cowboy in the video!)
TJC3car 2 years ago
oh man that's a powerful anti-smoking ad, man... One of the best i've seen on here!
MMusic91 2 years ago
Hell thats the best anti smoking add i have ever seen.
I had my 1st heart op at 29 as a result of smoking. Im now 38 still alive thank God and thank the royal Brompton London and i regret ever trying my first fag.
Its trashed my life.
01wavey 2 years ago
fuck....i wanna stop smoking.
downwiz2 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
just do it!
Kremmlings 2 years ago
luv smoking
deadlyxxgame 2 years ago
i know i must be an evil person, because i do know that it's a real person and that tobacco can cause cancer, but i watched this and could not stop laughing. I do smoke, but damn....this was funny.
tylerd12386 2 years ago
smoking is bad
qpalzm61 2 years ago
still smoking .... do that propagand with alcohol too
lulusaad 2 years ago
Marlboro Reds are amazing
TMTHLeci 3 years ago
STOP SMOKING :) I started and now i cant stop :P
kajzec 3 years ago
awful..great lesson
1986joking 3 years ago
I like this commercial, maybe a bigger deterrent than death for kids trying to look cool is having a hole in their neck.
Cordiner84 3 years ago
CIGS!!!!!
sandcreem 3 years ago
I smoke.
interpol007 3 years ago
You forgot about the anorexians, suicidals, fast-food junkies, soldiers, firemen, people who die from cancer or HIV/AIS and just about every person in the god damn world.
NOTxTHATxGUITAR 3 years ago
sunlight causes cancer. doing nothing can lead to cancer, drinking can lead to cancer, cancer is just a cellular mutation. We all will get cancer if we live long enough why not enjoy the time we have left with a nice cig? Yeah it increases your risk but so does driving your car or walking outside. Life is risk. Not everybody has a heartattack or contracts cancer from smoking some people live a long time.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
Amen. I smoke, chew, dip and sometimes snuff. Am I gonna get cancer? Maybe. Now the question is: is that "cowboy" or any other anti-tobacco liberal there going to pay my hospital bill? Does anybody really care about the health of some redneck they would rather hate if they met me in person? No. So, liberals, let me smoke my damn tobacco and quit bitching. If you cared about health, you wouldn't be trying to ban even electronic cigarettes, that are proven not to be harmful at all to your health.
MSfeller 2 years ago
@MSfeller I'm a 38-year-old guy. I've smoked and dipped for 23 years. I am unapologetic about the fact that I love tobacco, so if people don't like the fact that I smoke and dip, it's just too damn bad for them; as far as I'm concerned, tobacco is truly one of life's great pleasures. [continued]
Beorning1972 1 year ago
Jake68955 1 year ago
@Jake68955 If you were more fact-driven and less of a hysterical scaremonger, you'd know that fewer than 10% of lifelong smokers die of cancer. Cardiovascular disease is the cause of the vast majority of smoking-related deaths. This is NOT to say that smoking is without risks: 50% of lifelong smokers die of smoking-related diseases. It's just to say that regurgitated scare tactics and cheap shots don't help your anti-tobacco cause even a tiny bit.
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Jake68955 I've come to realize that what boggles the mind of anti-tobacco folks is that rational, intelligent folks can look at the same set of facts and arrive at a different conclusion. If you want to argue that nicotine takes over one's mind and thoughts, I can't disabuse you of that notion, but it's at least as likely that you're simply privileging your own opinion on the matter to such an extent that you simply can't understand why someone would not share your opinion.
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Beorning1972
so i guess every non-biased medical professional has been wrong for 40 years? and nicotine is addictive if it wasn't that addictive why can't 90% of people quit?
Jake68955 1 year ago
@Jake68955 I can't have a discussion w/ someone who's not going to deal with facts. The non-biased medical FACTS are that fewer than 10% of lifelong smokers develop ANY form of tobacco-related cancer--though 50% of lifelong smokers overall will die of a smoking-related disease (usually cardiovascular). Were you just really, really hoping that the numbers would be larger? A 50% death rate for lifelong smokers is pretty damn high already, IMO. Or is this just more about you "winning" an argument?
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Jake68955 Humans have been shown to be extraordinarily poor at judging relative risk, both positive and negative. I would never argue that someone should become a smoker--that's a personal decision, based on individual understanding of the potential costs and benefits involved. And if rationality REALLY ruled this discussion, that's where it would end....
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Jake68955 ...Because in truth, we all CHOOSE to do things that endanger our lives to a greater or lesser degree. To argue that the choices YOU make in such matters should be the choices that I have to make as well, is immoral. What if I prefer to take on the greater risk of smoking because I like it, than the potentially lesser risk of one of your common activities (say, eating grilled meat)? Would I then hover over you and nag you about ingesting carcinogens? No--I'm not that kind of jerk.
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Beorning1972
i'm just trying to convince you not to kill yourself, don't take it as i'm trying to put you down. if you feel wasting your hard earned money on cancer sticks then by all means go ahead and kill yourself
Jake68955 1 year ago
@Jake68955 You may believe that you are trying to do a good deed or something, but your tactics force the exact opposite conclusion. I'm not looking for an excuse to smoke. Nor have I ever denied the reality that smoking is very risky. But in this reply, you've moved on from health scare-tactics to the economics of smoking--a familiar tactic, and one that doesn't bode well for your ability to have a rational conversation.
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Jake68955 Trust me, I can list more potential negatives about being a smoker than most any anti-smoking campaigner I've ever met. So can most smokers. In fact, survey after survey shows that smokers, as a group, estimate the health risks of smoking to be FAR greater than they actually are. And smokers also perceive the risks associated with smoking to be higher than do non-smokers, former smokers, or even doctors. What this should tell you is that scare tactics simply don't work.
Beorning1972 1 year ago
@Beorning1972
bro calm down it's a simple statement that smoking is unhealthy and can kill you no need to spit statistics at me
Jake68955 1 year ago
@Jake68955 I'm quite calm, thanks for your concern. There would have been no need to "spit statistics at [you]" if you ha