Whoever recorded/mixed this video for "JBTV" must have been really, really high! Really a shame, too. Worst version of this song i've ever heard and it's all because of some stupid engineer not taking the time to do things right.
Plus, I think Jay thought he could equal Jeff in the band. But it's Jeff's band.
That's also why I think Glenn became the right drummer for the band. If you read Greg Kot's book "Learning How To Die," he talks about how Coomer wouldn't play the same thing twice in the studio. He just wanted to record and be done with it--not an exploratory drummer. So Jeff started playing with Glenn in Loose Fur, and thought, "here's a guy I can collaborate with."
@NorthWriter I agree, read the book etc. Not that i agree with the way he let him go, but Glenn's the man on drums and Nel's on guitar. Fuck that the best damn band going. 1st song 1st album, still love it. I used to see U.T. here on the landing in St. Louis a few times. They brought that bit of twang back to rock, but I think Jeff's right where he should be.
I think the thing with both Ken Coomer and Jay Bennett was that the band outgrew them. Jeff was ready to take the band to a new level, and those guys didn't really fit anymore.
Case in point: In the Wilco documentary, they're picking songs for their upcoming tour, and Jay wants to pick some "easy rockers," and Jeff says, "I don't wanna do that anymore." Jay says, "you don't wanna rock?" Jeff says, "No, I don't want to fall back on a bunch of easy rockers." continued...
I think tweedy was getting tired of Jay showing him up on guitar all the time. actually what I think happened was tweedys guitar skills finally got to the point where he didnt need Jay anymore..so he cast him off. I really have no idea what happened thats just what I thought of....while watching this and getting high
Thanks for debunking my theory haha. I agree- I still like them, but I liked them a lot more when Jay was with them. A.M.>Summerteeth. He really added a great sound. I got to meet them in 2002, right before YHF came out, my friend got them to play at his school, in the old 1800s chapel. it was a great night, since we had barely heard YHF yet (napster) but we sure heard it that night! Great memory. Saw em in Maine last summer, they were wicked good. Boston in april! I'll check out the book thnx
Uhh, yes? Uncle Tupelo (Jeff Tweedy's first band) is considered the godfathers of alt-country. Ryan Adams would be singing at open mic night if it weren't for him.
Maybe for this stuff, but could you imagine Coomer playing drums on "Jesus, etc.?" Hell, Jay played drums on "Ashes of American Flags" better than Ken ever could.
Great song! Probably my favourite from their early period. It's interesting to see Ken Coomer switches back and forth from drumming left-handed and right-handed. Funny thing is that his replacement, Glenn Kotche, does the same thing.
Best wilco ever!!!
jayhawks69 2 months ago
Whoever recorded/mixed this video for "JBTV" must have been really, really high! Really a shame, too. Worst version of this song i've ever heard and it's all because of some stupid engineer not taking the time to do things right.
The performance is exquisite, too.
yoursaxman 6 months ago
continued from the last post...
Plus, I think Jay thought he could equal Jeff in the band. But it's Jeff's band.
That's also why I think Glenn became the right drummer for the band. If you read Greg Kot's book "Learning How To Die," he talks about how Coomer wouldn't play the same thing twice in the studio. He just wanted to record and be done with it--not an exploratory drummer. So Jeff started playing with Glenn in Loose Fur, and thought, "here's a guy I can collaborate with."
NorthWriter 1 year ago
@NorthWriter I agree, read the book etc. Not that i agree with the way he let him go, but Glenn's the man on drums and Nel's on guitar. Fuck that the best damn band going. 1st song 1st album, still love it. I used to see U.T. here on the landing in St. Louis a few times. They brought that bit of twang back to rock, but I think Jeff's right where he should be.
jczother 9 months ago
I think the thing with both Ken Coomer and Jay Bennett was that the band outgrew them. Jeff was ready to take the band to a new level, and those guys didn't really fit anymore.
Case in point: In the Wilco documentary, they're picking songs for their upcoming tour, and Jay wants to pick some "easy rockers," and Jeff says, "I don't wanna do that anymore." Jay says, "you don't wanna rock?" Jeff says, "No, I don't want to fall back on a bunch of easy rockers." continued...
NorthWriter 1 year ago
What year is the video from?
StudioOctavia 1 year ago
great song...learning
Perfumedeflorazul 1 year ago
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smythwaldron 1 year ago
I'm loving this so much!
fionaeth 1 year ago
I like Jays little extra guitar riff in there, he gets ken smiling with it haha
wakeoftheflood2 2 years ago
I must be high....all the time....
I think tweedy was getting tired of Jay showing him up on guitar all the time. actually what I think happened was tweedys guitar skills finally got to the point where he didnt need Jay anymore..so he cast him off. I really have no idea what happened thats just what I thought of....while watching this and getting high
wakeoftheflood2 2 years ago
Nope. Read "Learning How to Die" and find out the real story. Has nothing to do with talent -- otherwise, Jay'd still be in the band.
They took a real dive in songwriting after he left. Still like them, but nothing like 1996-2001.
iamlameduck 2 years ago
Thanks for debunking my theory haha. I agree- I still like them, but I liked them a lot more when Jay was with them. A.M.>Summerteeth. He really added a great sound. I got to meet them in 2002, right before YHF came out, my friend got them to play at his school, in the old 1800s chapel. it was a great night, since we had barely heard YHF yet (napster) but we sure heard it that night! Great memory. Saw em in Maine last summer, they were wicked good. Boston in april! I'll check out the book thnx
wakeoftheflood2 2 years ago
I agree
stationidband 2 years ago
Jay Bennet was great, incredible guitarist
radioactive1111 2 years ago
lol they used to be a country band
nickmanning214 2 years ago
Uhh, yes? Uncle Tupelo (Jeff Tweedy's first band) is considered the godfathers of alt-country. Ryan Adams would be singing at open mic night if it weren't for him.
iamlameduck 2 years ago
yea kotche is way better... ha
kcirt101011 2 years ago
completely disagree I much prefer Coomer over Kotche. Kotche may be a more flashy drummer, but Coomer fits the band sooo much better imo.
keithmoonforever1 2 years ago
Maybe for this stuff, but could you imagine Coomer playing drums on "Jesus, etc.?" Hell, Jay played drums on "Ashes of American Flags" better than Ken ever could.
Ken's a great drummer, but not for YHF or later.
iamlameduck 2 years ago
im glad to see footage of Tweedy in a cowboy hat. I guess he did come from Belleville and is ol'man worked on the railroad.
jimborad1 2 years ago
people should realize how great the song is...
ididwy 2 years ago 7
Thanks for posting all these wilco videos
blakevickrey 2 years ago
Still love Wilco, but love the original band lineup. They looked cool as hell back then.
bytwilight13 2 years ago
Great song! Probably my favourite from their early period. It's interesting to see Ken Coomer switches back and forth from drumming left-handed and right-handed. Funny thing is that his replacement, Glenn Kotche, does the same thing.
NorthWriter 2 years ago 5
Yeah it really makes no sense for Coomer to do that. No disrespect to Coomer, but Kotche is much better.
scoop2230 2 years ago
@NorthWriter
I think it's actually a style. He's switching from Open style to traditional matchstick style.
xaznacex 1 year ago