I never got how that argument works, the simplest explanation is that the universe If it exists has a probability of 1 that it is in one state, the universe could be in any other state, but it always has to be in one.
great video, darkmatter2525 also made a good video on the subject on his other channel darkantics. one thing though, what exactly would the odds of their god creating it this way be?
The likeliness of it happening explains why it hasn't happened again, what it hasn't explained though is if we were made by a God in the sky, why hasn't he made more?
AHhhh! I wanted to say exactly this all last semester in my philosophy class except that I would not have been able to say it as well and eloquently as you. Partly because my teacher made me so frustrated to begin with that sitting in his class was a big enough struggle.
@GrapplingIgnorance dRevan64 and I have sith screen names, the odds of this must be pretty bad. Therefore God must exist because how else could such a thing happen? I am compelled by divine influence to also quote Han Solo. "The odds are irrelevant." Oh wait, that wasn't a Han quote... I guess God doesn't exist.
haha quote of the year "We are on the right spot and THAT's why we're alive. Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever. Out of billions of billions of planets" and please name your scientific data to prove this outrageous non mathematical quote(give all the planets discovered), because I might as well watch a rerun of ET!
@ChristianBibleSword Please, tell me you're joking. You don't REALLY think that the planets in our solar system are the only planets in the entire universe do you?
@GrapplingIgnorance: They are "supposedly other planets" which have been found outside our solar system, but could scientifically prove me that they are "billions and Billions of planets" is that an assumption? or a scientific true? if so I would like a list of these planets and there names!
@GrapplingIgnorance Your 1st flaw is assuming all knowledge is representative of 100% certainty. In science, we gain knowledge from what all evidence suggests & supports as true. That is accepted as knowledge until contradicting info arrives with more evidence in its favor. Recent astrophysics conclude "there are at least 100 billion stars with planets in our Galaxy... With about 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, our result suggests... at least 10 trillion planetary systems..."
@GrapplingIgnorance your first flaw is you sound like a philosopher more than a scientist. You bring concepts that are not backed by our only way of measuring compex problems; data and numbers! Bones don't prove evolution, you know that is true but you assume they do!
this is an article done in the UK "Our galaxy MAY contain billions of planets with the same mass as Earth" the word "MAY" is not a fact is a maybe "100/50" 100/49"
@GrapplingIgnorance Our galaxy is "Barred Spiral" and were bigger; unlike most " spiral galaxies" like Andromeda that are smaller. Each galaxy offers a different composure; its estimated that many might actually work separately different from our milky way. (that is a huge possibility) a whirlwind works different than a whole-pool in our planet, yet they share commonalities. Same is quite possible with other galaxies inside space. we are not sure planets can be form in other galaxies
@GrapplingIgnorance Consequently planet formation in other galaxies, "spiral ones" might not actually occur at the ratio that The Milky Way galaxy is different in shape from most other galaxies. other galaxies like Elliptical galaxies are the most common, but are more difficult to see, because they are not as bright as spiral galaxies. that is astronomy 101. using a Spectrograph to calculate mass, density, albedo and radiation is extremely infective in space.
@GrapplingIgnorance using math with physics is the only way to calculate planet formation, but is only based on the model of our solar system; other regions inside our own galaxy might not work the same way, and other galaxies might fallow other models (we don't know). So we are basing our knowledge in how space work, based on our knowledge of our solar system (a small region in our solar system)! do you see the point? My major is in Astrophysics, and doing my masters in cosmology.
@GrapplingIgnorance Don't delete my comments its a sign of losing an argument! , so I am asking you to show me the billions of billions of planets that our friend the black belt Krav Maga soldier says exist? What prove to you have they're billions of planets? have we observed billions of planets? can you tell me at least 10.000 or less than their names? and what would be the mathematical odds of others having life like our beloved poster indicates bellow? please give me references, not opinion!
@ChristianBibleSword Did you even watch the video I told you about ? For christ's sake, the Kepler space telescope had found dozens of habitable planets in half it's mission time. Plus it's an accepted (not by willful ignorants, I'll give you that) fact that there are billions of planets in our galaxy alone. And your comment about how I should not base my thinking on videos ? Then what the fuck are you doing on youtube ? You shouldn't watch nor post videos if that's what you think.
What are odds? Impossible! That is if you believe in math, but if you believe in Evolution then skipp the math, but don't complain when mathematics people laugh at evolution!
@GrapplingIgnorance I think he did, since he doesn't mind denying all evidence I put under his nose. He just makes the common leap of faith between low chances and no chances. Good vid, as always !
@ChristianBibleSword You yet again talk about odds. If you're so good at probabilities, let's see. Billions of billions of planets (oh, but that's a conspiracy to take us away from god too !), and only one with life. Let's see... Pretty little ain't it ? And you want evidence ? Just don't deny that which is put right under your nose, and then we'll talk.
@gilless429 Your nose must of evolved right next to your ear because you are not listening but arguing facts that are unarguable! Billions of planets? again...OH LORD...have you observed billions of planets? how do you know they are that many? tell me all there names? count them one by one in front of a camera!! haha, show science what they haven't proven yet but assumed! Go on...Ill be the first one to watch your video!!
@GrapplingIgnorance Its true this probaility logic that people come up with is stupid. Lets make a very basic assumption for a rock that is pure Silicon. Now a 1kg rock would be 1000/28 mol. Which is (1000/28)(*6x10^23) atoms (for a block of pure silicon). This is about 2.1x10^25 atoms. So the probabilty of a particular arangment of atoms occuring is 1/(2.1x10^25)! which is approx 1/10^(10^(10^(1.4))). For a normal rock with more than 1 type of atom, far lower than this. Yet I see rocks everyday
@GrapplingIgnorance Your video was riddled with mathematical and argumentative fallacies. Your dictionary example was cute and I get your point, but if you'd ever taken a stats class, you'd realize there is 0 chance of life just happening, And by the end of your video all you've got on your side is a load of ad verecundiam with all your big words with little substance fighting an argument that was never really disputed. I'm glad you're putting your ideas out, but don't take yourself so seriously
A lot of theists try to say that because "we live on Earth, instead of elsewhere, where the conditions may not be ideal," they have proof of a deity. They say that the chance of our development in the good conditions are astronomical, and suggest the existence of a god.
Of course, that argument is irrelevant and is greatly flawed. What they never seem to consider, is that maybe we came to live here instead of elsewhere BECAUSE the conditions were right; NOT because of chance.
Dude I can't believe I found someone who makes videos on the arguments I make!! I have been wondering if anyone has thought of the same things and you have thought of many of them! :D Thank you for posts!
"It could just be coincidence". Look that video up or click and check it out on my channel. You will find that the odds are actually a lot better than these theists would have them sound. If you decide to look it up the video on the search engine you’ll know you found the right one if you see a picture of William Shakespeare on the video picture
"If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?"
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.".
Good video! :) I like to think of it as flipping a coin and it landing heads up. What are the chances of getting a heads up? %100. I can prove it just by looking at the coin. Calling the odds on an un-flipped coin is a different question.
I wonder if anyone has ever calculated the odds of there being a god based on all available, credible and sound evidence? My bet? They have and they didn't like the outcome.
odds don't matter,if there are multiple universes that disproves the theory that something can't happen because the odds.Well 99.99% of the big bang exploding and the universe not reaching maturity still means that 0.01% that it will happen.And in infinite number of universes that will happen a lot of times.Numbers lie in this instance...
Either way it doesn't matter...neither can absolutely prove what they theorize. So, whats the point in arguing about something so futile. None of us was there.
@thinker900 The point is that religion has a disproportionate about of power/money/followers to real information. When religions claim they have answers they can't know, while scientis have devleoped structured theories with actual evidence, the scientific voice has to speak up about what there seems to be a natural explanation for when religions are demanding people's money attention etc. by giving credit for that occurance to their fictional God.
@GrapplingIgnorance Well, I do admit that science has opened the door to possiblities...like religion it is not absolute or concrete. At best they are able to find patterns given a set of controled circumstances. Then given a equation to try and explain the phenomenon. But it is a lot better than just relying on a book that is several thosand years old. On the other hand, it shouldn't be ignored either. As for the money and power issue...I never gave a single tiding.
@GrapplingIgnorance Actually by your same standards evolution has discredit other theories as well, and so has western physics if compared with Mayan or Chinese mathematics. Evolution is impossible according to mathematics, and that is indisputable. If you pick a word, you are crediting that you chose (unconsciously or consciously) an example to prove something. That's the point! Random mutations do not pick themselves, as much as word could not pick itself, it needs someone with intelligence!
@ChristianBibleSword You demonstrate a great lack of understanding for the fundamental principles of evolution. It is not something that fits into an equation or liklihood as I clearly explained in this video. Mutations, both detrimental and beneficial occour multiple times throughout every generation of every species. They are not chosen at all- the beneficial ones have a higher chance of being passed on, and the harmful ones have a lower chance of survival, which causes speciation. Look it up.
@GrapplingIgnorance Well you also seem to ignore the possibility of happening "randomly", even though when tested "guided" by human intelligence for over 60 years, it hasn't work. You tell me! I am not saying that such mutations don't occur, small variations indeed happen, specially in the genome, but within species these variations and chance mutations don't allow macro evolution. My question is simple, show me one example where any organism is in the process of macro mutation (not micro)!
@ChristianBibleSword Your question reeks of ignorance. Macro evolution is the change that takes place through many stages of micro evolution. Your position would be like saying "show me just one example of a 24 hour day happening. You can't use seconds or miniutes in your example- but if 24 consecutive hours doesn't occur all at once then it must never happen! I strongly suggest you do some research before carrying on like this.
@GrapplingIgnorance It is a "theory" that micro came to Macro, it is "NOT TESTED" if is proven what research can you guide me through that I may believe you? What mathematics do you use, for micro to macro to come about? 24 hours? Well, whats funny is that it is tested that with a higher amplitude of electromagnetism you can elevate the growth of plants. A good example would be grass developing close to a electrical tower, it grows quicker than regular plants. I also recommend you to study more!
@ChristianBibleSword You have just proven that you don't understand the difference between a theory and a hypothesis. In terms of science, a theory is a conclusion arrived upon using a vast compilation of facts to explain something. This is why gravity is a theory. The only reason I can see for your insistence of denying evolution is that you find it conflicts with your religious beliefs. Plenty of Christians have accepted evolution and still believe in their God. It's okay to be educated.
@GrapplingIgnorance lets take a look. Theory = observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules. A) Evolution is NOT OBSERVABLE, what is evolving?...B) Their is NO MATHEMATICS, that explains neither random odds or systems changing mechanisms within evolution...C) No one has survived to explain what was OBSERVED in evolutionary biology 2.5 billion years ago; their is no math to prove these mutational engineering systems in any equation! not science! case closed!
@gilless429 sure.. genome proves micro evolution. were is the macro? my cat is not a dog..yet lol!. ...in the other side...historians from many different universities are coming to the conclusion that there was an ancient world wide flood recorded by many separate different cultures, that would explain why they find petroleum in desert regions like Saudi Arabia under geological pressures that were abruptly destabilized by millions on litters of water. Case closed. Evolution is false.
@ChristianBibleSword Ah, the flood argument... I'll answer with a question : Does it really surprise you that on a planet more than half covered of water, with weather and therefore rain, all cultures recorded a big flood ? The historians, like you say, who conclude what you do out of this have a view of facts twisted by belief. Making theories without data, one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of twisting theories to suit facts. Sherlock Holmes.
@gilless429 Its funny how you talk about data! yet you wouldn't explain with math how evolution predicts or can be calculated, as its neither observable. Data? haha, tell us the amount of possibilities it would take to have the sun close to earth, the moon with the right gravity pull, the earth to not spin faster, the sun to not produce more energy...all the way to evolution. Lets all have a laugh, Mr Darwin!
@ChristianBibleSword You don't get it ? Of course we're in the right spot with the right conditions. Otherwise we'd be dead. There have no doubt been other species on other planets that tried to manage like we do now. Whether it's us or them in the right spot, somone has to be, or there'd be no life anywhere. That our planet is the one in the right place is no miracle. You don't get that do you ? It could have been another planet. We could have not lived.
@gilless429 Yeah no shit, we are in the right sport in the right conditions! what is that a conclusion you came up too right now? lol. You say species, but according to most scientist could you tell me where could I find a species, what is a species, can you point me to one? Challenge your own words! lol you say "That our planet is in the right place is no miracle" well mathematically speaking you better believe in miracles when it comes down to our planet which is why grappling discuses the vid
@ChristianBibleSword Humans are a species. Why ? You can't search in a dictionnary ? You don't get it. First, low chances doesn't mean no chance. Already said that. And then, if we had not been in the right place, one planet, somewhere in the universe would have been. You don't seem to understand that part. This ONE planet had little chance of being in the exact good place. But for one of the planets in the universe to be, it's not that unlikely.
@gilless429 You are wrong scientist don't really know what a species is, that is a scientific "Vague" word, but apparently its something you need to research further. If you go by the "many universes theory" then if you believe the universe is infinite, no doubt God Exist, if you say the universes are not infinite again you not only fall in "odds" but "how many universes"? how big are they? maybe one of them is as big a peanut? then your odds play against you, you still need a point of origin.
@ChristianBibleSword There's Einstein's theory that's around the big bang (I'm too tired to explain, but you can google it if you want), and there are lots of other theories. And even if the universe is not infinite, it's huge. I mean, solar systems like ours have around a dozen of planets. Each galaxy has hundreds (and I'm going low) of solar systems, and our universe has hundreds (I again am going low) of galaxies. Out of all those planets, if none had life... THAT would be sci-fi.
@gilless429 there is a lot of problems with Einsteins theory, one of them is in the field of quantum Mechanics, "Particle Duality" is a faster than light. Research. Two particles in to different parts of the Universe will rotate if one moves, the transmission from A to particle B is faster than Light. Then Einstein has another problem with the Expanding universe as the Expanding universe is expanding faster than its original bang. That is impossible. Einstein is in problems. try again!
@gilless429 You just said Einsteins is a a theory, so yes I know what a theory is! Did you know theories are not facts? thank you, and Einstein had lots of problems with Quantum Mechanics, a class I took in college several years ago. So tell us all Mr M-theorist how does the universe expand faster using the laws of Einstein that you so heavily defend? Go on explain...!!
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : How arrogant and full of yourself are you to think we would have been there anyway ? This argument has been crushed a long time ago. Out of all the planets around, one has to be in the right spot, and it happened to be ours. It would be a surprising thing if there were no other planets around. But there are lots of them. So this argument is fallacious. Oh, and you took the very common creationist leap of faith between little probabilities and no probability.
@gilless429 The argument is still in progress, as evolution is not a law but a pausable non mathermatical theory, and therefore saying the argument is crushed is outerly stupid, to say the least. You are wrong! The sun could of being a million different ways, the moon could of been bigger or smaller (that would be disastrous), we could of had three moons, (chaotic ocean tides), why do we have a liquid core? unlike venus or mars? Our planet could of being faster, more force, we would be toast
@ChristianBibleSword I never said the contrary. You are so short-minded I can barely believe it. I'm going to say it again : We COULD have been toast, like you say. Some planet have been, or are inhabitable. We are on the right spot and THAT's why we're alive. Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever. Out of billions of billions of planets in the universe, the probability of none being in the right place is...ridiculously low.
@gilless429 You state something completely unscientific "Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever" that is utterly stupid and you say I am short minded?haha. What proof do you have that "they are" or have "being" living organism in other planets, because we have sent a number of space proves, and nothing has come about, then you have the mathematical odds. You call me short minded, well you need to study more buddy and stop smoking!
@ChristianBibleSword Are you really arrogant enough to think humans and animals are the only life froms around ? Yes, you then are short-minded. Wanna talk about proof ? What proof do you have any of your beliefs is true ? You're really in a bad place to ask proof. And given all the planets in the universe, the odds of life existing on an other one are astronomically higher than those of a sky-daddy having poofed the whole thing into existence.
@gilless429 You said a post ago the most stupid thing I have ever heard, you said they will find life outside of earth...haha did ET tell you he was going to make a part two? stop smoking. If the Universe is infinite then there is no time, you cannot have time inside infinity that is retarded. Its like me opening a door forever, closing a door forever, going out the door forever. that is impossible and odds would not work. But under time is when odds play a factor, evolution out of odds.
@ChristianBibleSword Why, in FUCK, would the universe need to be infinite to have life other than us ? Finite doesn't mean little. It can be HUGE, but not infinite. And if you truly think you KNOW there is life nowhere else than on earth, then you are arrogant and ignorant. So many planets and you think ours is the only one ? Give me a break... I'm not saying on Mars, but given the probabilities that you like to mension, it's near impossible for earth to be the only one.
@gilless429 Again more stupid logic. You need an infinite universe without time to make any odds possible. The theory of evolution EXCEEDS mathematically the possibilities of chance itself; so without infinity EVOLUTION is just pure imagination as it violates the laws of possibilities. Do you need understand that, or do you need ELMO TO TEACH YOU MATH?
@airsoftbunker Please name the odds that there is life on no other planet than earth given the billions of billions of planets that the universe contains. I never said there was life somewhere else, I just stated that eliminating the possibility as quickly (not wuickly) as he did, given the probabilities, is illogical. Excuse me if my spelling or tone was unpleasant, but he kinda pissed me off, never giving proof of what he said but saying it like fact. I hope we can have a polite conversation.
@gilless429 (double post) you stated life was lost on other planets, so are you saying we are the only planet with life? that would be contridicting or statement of the possibilities of life on other planets. what percentage of planets have you or scientists found in the "billions" of other planets that have the right conditions for life. If none does that mean that there are no proven facts for their theories? I understand the odds of there not being any planets,
@airsoftbunker Sorry not to answer more in details but start by watching the video : Creationists Fail Again by darkmatter2525. Don't worry it shouldn't insult your beliefs. And I meant that there is no life on the planets we already searched because in the not searched ones I actually think there are some that have life.
@airsoftbunker Double post : It's nice to have an educated conversation, because some people don't know anything else than agressivity and insults. Like our dear ChristianBibleSword. I think I'll just ignore him. He's another fanatical. I have no problem with the belief in a god or anything, but some just push it.
@gilless429 understandable, however what are your positions on the questions i asked and you did not answers. i appreciate the feedback. i dont have problems wit your beliefs as well, but i want to know why you believe them.
@airsoftbunker Did you read my other comment ? This was only one of the two. Youtube only puts the last sent to you from the video in your inbox so sometimes you have to look at the comments down to read the whole answer (that's why I say double post). If you did read the other comment but that wasn't enough, I'll answer in a more precise way. But no use in saying it again if you didn't read the other comment. I appreciate the feedback too !
@airsoftbunker Like I said you should watch the video I talked about. But here's what I have to answer. I think that there is life on other planets somewhere in the universe. The Kepler space telescope has already found a handful of planets that could have life (life like us). They didn't go and check on the planets, but the simple fact that in so little time they found all those planets makes it unlikely for life to only be on earth.
@gilless429 but why are you using mathematical terms to describe somethin that isnt mathematical. Then describe the mathematical chances of the the nickle core producing a feild from radiation, the sun is a perfect size, the moon is not to big or small, we dont have two or three moons (the norm), the orbit of our planet is not faster or slower, the list goes on... ( no fights , just looking for knowledge!!)
@ChristianBibleSword Double post (that means you should read my other answer too) : Creationists deny any sort of evolution. Macro or micro. If you don't, you're not a creationist, but something close. So evolutionism may not win by itself, but since real creationism loses...
@gilless429 Fact is there was a world wide flood as opposed to a giant earth quake, and even taking the bible apart it wouldn't matter, you still have hundreds of cultures explaining it, water erosion its found in mountains arround the world, that has calcified strata with salidity (exclude rain, as h20 cannot transport minerals), but its your turn amigo, tell us about the math and the physics that led you to believe in the theory of evolution. what equation does nature use? lets laugh...lol
@ChristianBibleSword You say this like a fact. There have been several floods since the beggining of humanity. Of course since the planet is 70 percent covered in water. It's not a giant flood that happened, it's separate little ones. No one during those floods could think it just happened to them, since floods had not been explained yet. The burden of proof is on the claimer. You have no proof. This is not an argument, but a belief twisted fallacy.
@gilless429 I have ten trillion questions evolution could never explain, not forgetting they lack any physics to explain their own theory with logical calculations tested on any laboratory. Did they spark life in your laboratory? lol. The only fact here is that there was a world wide ancient flood recorded by many different cultures, they could of all recorded a giant earth quake, or a giant comet, but curiously they all talk about a world wide flood. The ancients weren't all lying right?
@ChristianBibleSword You twist facts the way you like them. There also have been scriptures talking about things that now seem like earthquakes. But the bible talks about a flood, so you only take the flood part. And if you didn't understand that this argument was put to shreds by mine, I pity you, for religion made you blind. One last attempt : go see "Global Flood Myths.....so what?" by rationalwarrior
@gilless429 I have read a number of geological books, that explain strata and salt at high points in mountains, its is actually a huge problem for geologist to explain because it happens to be that salt is a heavy element, and huge amounts don't naturally form in rocks. They found pink salt at the Himalayas, and all mountains actually have this same problem (they have salt), thanks to pressure and temperature these have affected the mineral. there was an ancient world wide flood!
@ChristianBibleSword You yet again twist all evidence. AND ignore what I say. No evidence points toward a world-wide flood. Evidence points toward lots of water having been all around. But what proof do you have it wasn't lots of floods all around, but not at the same time. Decades, maybe even centuries apart. Say again there has been a world wide flood if you want, but there is no evidence of that.
@gilless429 OK. You are by no means an historian stop reading comic books. Go to your history department, if you go to college, and ask professors about an historical event that ancients seem to agree on. Then go and tell them they are wrong, and slap yourself before they call you stupid. I go to Ohio State University, and even my geological professor who got is PHD in Princeton and travels world wide is told us about this event, something shared by another ancient history professor. they agree
@ChristianBibleSword Don't you think they were creationists before ? Or did they SEE THE LIGHT ! They already had their beliefs, and those beliefs twisted their thinking. And just because supposedly intelligent people say it's true doesn't mean it is. For example, Sir Isaac Newton. He was a believer. But also an alchemist. Does his works on gravity prove he was right in thinking that metals have magic properties and could be combined to make gold ? Even intelligent people can be blind.
@gilless429 then you have a bigger problem as the book commented, evaporation do to the meteor that hit the golf of Mexico would of A) cracked the Asthenosphere and water vapor coming from the ocean could not transport enough salt to cover all the highest points in the earth. You need a huge flood to explain that, which is what the ancients also recalled. It is us in the 21century that have decided what the earth look like before, but the ancients had the experience and can be easily proven!!
@ChristianBibleSword Yet again, you proved there has been a flood at that place, but not a world wide one. OF COURSE there have been floods. 70 percent water, remember ? But if you think any of that is evidence of a world wide flood, I fear I'm gonna have to keep pitying you.
@gilless429 See this is the problem with Evolutionist, lol they get information that is true and ignore it, but then when you ask them about mathematics they simply whistle and simply say "hey where here fuck the odds" so don't blame others for saying "fuck how we got here God exist" you guys ask for prove of God and then you can't provide prove with math (what hypocrites!). water in desert regions, salt in high points, water in deep caves....NVM we come from primordial cambells soup haha!
@ChristianBibleSword Okay, you're making me sick. Well done. The mutation of the human genome has been proved. We found fossils (like the archeopteryx) that show a clear transition from one animal to an other, which makes your above comment stupid and ignorant, the earth has (you can deny and say we can't know, but it's fucking FACT, dumbnuts) been proved 4.54. The DNA, embriology... There are tons of proofs, but YOU ignore it. And OF COURSE, science doesn't know everything, ...cont...
@ChristianBibleSword ...cont... (I meant 4.54 billion years old, not 4.54) but that doesn't mean you can just put whatever you want instead of it. At one point everyone thought the earth was flat. But science proved it wrong. Does the fact that science didn't know it before make it false ? Of course not ! I'm starting to wonder if you really are a student at the ohio state university. I mean don't they have some kind of admissions criteria ? And then again, you can prove there's been ...cont...
@gilless429 You are wrong the ancients did believe the world was round he concept of a spherical Earth dates back to ancient Greek philosophy from around the 6th century BC. The Mayas knew the planets where also spherical, and to top that off "MR NO HISTORY" the Sumerians new about nine planets and new about the earth spherical form....then you had sea traders and pirates that new the world was spherical of night navigation before most scientist did. It was debated before you existed.
@ChristianBibleSword floods all around, which doesn't mean much in 4.54 billion years, but not that there have been floods at different times. Centuries apart. Million years apart. Billion years apart even. You don't seem to make the difference between the two. And "get information that is true"? You only said it, didn't prove it. If I just said, I don't know : Brad Pitt is romanian ! Do you believe me until I give you proof (which, in both cases, doesn't exist) ? Nope !
@gilless429 Local floods would not be a problem here if the ancients claimed that it was local; however, ancients claim a worldwide flood... Most ancients were nomads as urbanization unlike now, was not the "norm" and it did affect their trading routes, so they would of known of such a catastrophe affecting others not just the locals. Why would you claim a worldwide flood if it wasn't? Go ahead..explain because it is recorded they recalled a worldwide flood (AN HISTORICAL RECORD)go on explain.
@ChristianBibleSword Double post (well it's my fourth answer total) : I believe in evolutionism mainly because the earth has been proved 4.54 billion years old by radiometric dating methods. You can say they're not accurate but they actually are, unlike carbon dating. 5 millions years mistaken is the max, and that still disproves creationism. Now you can rant about conspirations by illuminatis to take us away from god, but it's not just allegations like creationism. It's fact.
@gilless429 according to radiometric dating? is just one of many pick and choose option to calculate the earths age. Salidity in the oceans is another, solar rotation,,,movements of the stars, but ofcuourse scientist cannot calculate stellar radioactive dating with carbon14, because they are too far away and using spectrographs is defaulted as space itself is a vaccum of waves. Another problem, we don't really know what is the core of the sun works, so if its that old, how much energy you need?
@ChristianBibleSword Check out my other answers too. All you say is that there are tons of way to calculate the earth's age. And so ? All of them (except your bible, which is NOT a valid measurement tool), accurate or not, indicate the earth is older than what your holy book says. What, is it a worldwide conspiracy to make god hate us ? The illuminatis taking control ? Say all you want, but you can't refute that. You can say it's a lie, or untrue, but no amount of belief makes something a fact.
@gilless429 Most ancient discoveries in history have being bible based and it is "documented" but perhaps ask the historians that made the discoveries, because if they asked you forget about archeology haha. It is simply irrational to calculate the past without a time machine, because the past as much as theory, in quantitative research has to be observable and testable. You cannot test the past, because its gone. Telling me how old is a rock, having multiple methods, is like not having any
@ChristianBibleSword So here we are. The phase where you deny it all. IT'S A CONSPIRATION !!! WE CAN'T KNOW THE PAST !!! Sorry, but I've already heard that. And of couse we can know the past without being there. FIrst of all, if we can't, then how do you know god poofed it all ? And that there has been a world wide flood ? Tsk tsk, self contradiction.
@gilless429 No its true dumb nuts we don't know the past, we can try to understand the past but that doesn't make it true. Others such as " advanced civilizations" recorded events and that's really the only guide line to understand what happened in certain events, but trolls like you who don't anything about history but believe in simply get history and trash it. Theoretical science is bullshit, its "imaginative science" we have applied science as method of use, but we don't need evolution.
@ChristianBibleSword It's fun to hear you talk about science when you ignore or deny all scientific evidence. And of fucking course we can know the past ! Not the whole past, of course, but we KNOW some things that happened. You're just going deeper into it because you can't admit what you said is bullshit. If we couldn't know the past, there wouldn't be a freaking history class in school ! And I'm the one who should go back to comics (which I never read btw) ? You gotta be kidding me...
@gilless429 this is so funny! A self contradiction here is that I ask you for odds, and you cannot give them to me? then you say I cannot provide you with math to explain God? but hey we use infinity in physics and math! haha Whats funny is that evolutionist say that we come from the "back of crystals piggy backing each other" to form the first living organism with energy haha! I heard better stories in the bible. GO READ SOME GEOLOGICAL FINDINGS, THEN COME BACK AND ARGUE! you sound stupid!
@ChristianBibleSword You say I sound stupid, that I'm funny, and blablabla... But until you give evidence to support that claim, it's worth as much as a 2000 dollars note (in case you didn't realise, they don't exist). And your claim that we evolutionists believe "that we come from the "back of crystals piggy backing each other"" shows your ignorance. I'm happy I don't know you personally, since I have a low tolerance for stupidity and willful ignorance.
@gilless429 You are also lucky I don't know you because you would be a great punching bag because when people are as stupid as you they need to be hit like a TV that's not functioning properly. LOOK TROLL, HERE IS THE ARTICLE OF YOUR CRYSTAL SO CALLED EVOLUTION...dna.caltech.edu/Papers/dna-crystal-evolution.pdf READ IT AND GO DROWN YOURSELF INSIDE THAT PRIMORDIAL SOUP OF YOURS.
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : We found fossils, THAT for example allows us to know the past without being there. And sorry to disapoint you, but saying those methods don't work doesn't magically make it true. If you're going to deny evidence, there is no point to this conversation. I don't need an other fanatical willful ignorant ranting about scientists lying. I've had my lot of those.
@gilless429 BONES DO NOT PROVE EVOLUTION.. do you need prove of this from your own theorist? the Cambrian Period seems a headache for evolutionist who are trying to look for the HOX GENE, an illusion more than a fact! the programming code of life, according to evolutionists, is just a series of biochemical accidents and mutations? haha, yeah right!! So if I find a IPAD, I will tell the apple engineers, that the wind did it over a million years, but hey its easier than making a human! haha!
@ChristianBibleSword Look at my past comments, you'll find an answer. And if you don't believe me (which I encourage, since skepticism is the base of rationality, something you've been out of for some time), gogle it. There are many fossils proving a clear transition from one animal to an other. And it's not an accident. That's a common creationist misconception. You can't consider anything else than god or chance can you ? What about the fact that there are billions of planets so the ...cont...
@gilless429 I think the only skeptic here is me, as anyone that reads your post most be really ashamed of representing evolutionary theory. I told YOU TEN TRILLION TIMES BONES DON'T PROVE EVOLUTION! GO AND ASK YOUR BELOVED SCIENTIST IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, THEY ARE THE ONES TELLING IT NOT ME CLOWN! are they're billions of planets? did you send a satellite to prove that they're billions of planets? or did you also make that up like the ALIENS? haha! keep rolling and watching more Star Trek!
@ChristianBibleSword ...cont... probability (oh, your dear probabilities) of life being nowhere else is slimer than you can imagine. And your mocking shows yet again your ignorance and judgemental ways. It's unlikely ? Well then it's impossible ! What a freaking joke you are... And there is proof of evolution. You just ignore it. Did you know that less than 1 percent of scientists are creationists ? Oh, but it's because they only take fools ! Or whatever pretty little excuse you have for that.
@gilless429 AGAIN IN ORDER FOR EVOLUTION TO BE EFFECTIVE AND A SCIENTIFIC LAW, NOT JUST A THEORETICAL PROBLEM, WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT TOOK US THERE? WHAT PHYSICS OR MATHEMATICS CAN BE APPLIED TO EVOLUTION PREDICT AN OCCURRENCE? WHAT DOES IT CALCULATE? IS EVOLUTION OBSERVABLE? WHY DON'T WE SEE HUMANS EVOLVING WINGS TO FLY, OR SCALES TO SWIM? WHY DID RECORDED HISTORY START 5000 BC? WHY NOT 2 MILLION YEARS AGO? COMMON ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS...AND STOP GOING IN CIRCLES!
@gilless429 Its funny that I am still looking for a species..I grabbed my camera just in case I bump into one. I think that coming from an ancient soup or in the back of metamorphic (haha) crystals is a more plausible explanation than God; hey! after all complex systems we make are NOT engineered, we depend on the wind. My best advice is stop making new projects, the wind will take care of them, it might take some time dough!! your right, fuck math, physics, history & science! EVO ROCKS! HAHA
@ChristianBibleSword You just laugh your ass off without disproving anything. And worse, you ignore all proof. You are pathetic. I won't talk to you anymore, the time I could spend with you is better spent trying to convince people with at least half their mind. I hope you realise you're wrong before you die, because you won't enjoy life as much thinking there's an afterlife. I hope your belief make you feel better about death, but let me tell you : it's never good or clean. Farewell.
@gilless429 AGAIN OH GEEZ!! TELL US WHAT THE ODDS ARE, ((NOTICE THAT IS THE TOPIC OF THE VIDEO??)) GRAPPLING IGNORES THEM..AND THAT IS OK! SO DO YOU IGNORE THEM TOO, AND IS IT SCIENCE TO IGNORE THE MATHEMATICAL POSSIBILITIES ON HOW WE GOT HERE? IF YOU IGNORE THEM FIND, BUT DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT SCIENCE, WHEN YOU CAN'T PROVIDE THE READERS WITH ANY!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!
@ChristianBibleSword If you believe that was a contradiction you're worse than I thought. Same for believing people always knew the earth was round. Galileo was burned for thinking the contrary. And taking one article from one man for the beliefs of the whole of evolutionists is beyond stupid. Your vulgarity and agressivity show how stupid you are. And fyi I served in the army from 2000 to 2008 and am a black belt in krav maga so given how you look on your vids, you can keep your stupid threats.
@gilless429 How stupid you are, ancients did believe the earth was round! Specially cultures that based their sciences on stars and cosmological data. Go research!! THAT MAN IS ONE OF THE TOP RESEARCHERS OF EVOLUTIONARY THEORY? HE IS DONE MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN EVOLUTION THAT YOU WILL EVER DO IN FIVE LIFE TIMES? IS THE PRIMORDIAL SOUP ALSO CONCEPT OF EVOLUTIONARY START? LOL!!
@gilless429 YOU STARTED THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT YOU TRYING TO FIGHT ME PERSONALLY? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU ARE A KRAV MAGA TOP IDF SOLDIER IN ISRAEL, THAT'S HONESTLY EVEN BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN ENOUGH FIGHTS AND COMPETITIONS AND LOST ONE IN ARIZONA, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO COMPETE AGAINST YOU BECAUSE I TRAINED WITH USA MARINES AND RANGERS IN OHIO, AND THEIR STAND UP BLOWS BALLS, THEY'RE ONLY GOOD AT WEAPONS! YOU TEST THE FIGHTER BY HIS WEIGHT? YOU ARE NO FIGHTER! DON'T THREAT YOU FUCKHEAD!
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : If you had understood the video, something your brain, or lack thereof, stops you from doing, you would have understood the odds are irrelevant. Your vulgarity and agressivity would send you to the fifth circle of hell if god existed. I'll say hi from the sixth (non-believers if you don't know). Now say what you want, I won't answer to you. In fact could you shut up, since I am having a conversation with an other guy here, and would like to know his answer.
@gilless429 you have to be the most stupid man alive! it is easy to understand the video. You are jumping, the mathematical odds that took to get to evolution to prove a theory that's not a law. if you say yes then you confessed that skipping the odds is science! lol. If you say no, that means that you don't even know what you are talking about, which is probably the best answer. you can't answer me, so go on circles like a butterfly because you know that what I am saying is true. deal with it
@ChristianBibleSword Triple post (so check the other comments) : By the way, about that earth being in the right spot for life thing, you should watch : Creationists Fail Again by DarkMatter2525
@gilless429 You base yourself on knowledge on a youtube video??? hahaha! might as well watch ET again! And stop talking bullshit and trying to skip the conversation to another poster, that's what people without rationality do! Anyone that reads all the post will also noticed that when you started calling me names, is the moment you lost your argument, so go on, and reply to the other poster, you can even prove your own knowledge how the fuck are you going to discredit history! crazy crazy!!
@ChristianBibleSword YOU started calling me names asshole. You're so pathetic I can barely believe it. And fyi anyone (any rational one) reading the posts will notice that the reason I can't convince you is not the lack of proof. I presented plenty of evidence, but you just ignore the shit out of it and go on with your theories wiithout backing them with proof. Say all you want, you may think yourself intelligent but you're just an arrogant stubborn jackass. Go read the bible and leave me alone.
@ChristianBibleSword Blah blah blah, my name is christianbiblesword (yes, long, ridiculous name), I'm an asshole and I can't do anything else than mock people since I don't have any proof and ignore all that which is put in my face !
@GrapplingIgnorance That is not true. "Harmful" mutations within organism poison "other normal replicating cells", that means the organism doesn't start replicating successfully, its called cancer. If indeed these harmful variation happen within the human genome, the bone structure and calcium reproduction would of be affected too, and we have never found fossils that show any species (what ever that means) that show bone structure damage. Maybe you can tell us where are these?
@GrapplingIgnorance Don't mix macro and micro evolution. My response was for macro, which "supposedly" takes many years, its not being observed, nor mathematically proven so it does not stay in the field of theoretical means. Micro changes, do occur. A fly found in the north pole, capable of water reduction to avoid freezing temperatures compare with the itchy fly in New Mexico, sure..but these are still flies, flies didn't mutate into birds. Macro does not occur in nature, where? show me!
@ChristianBibleSword 500 youtube comment characters are not going to prove any scientific findings. You have to actually look into a credible book, site, video, museum, or experiment yourself. It's not hard to look up, but once you actually do the research, you'll see there's no reason NOT to accept it as the tentative answer to the question that "God did it" bears absolutely no credible answer for.
@GrapplingIgnorance You post in Youtube, so is that mean that all your videos a reproving something not credible? Good point. I work in astrophysics (my degree); we do experiments using particles to accelerate light production within different types of metals. For example, dealing with mercury as a conductor for blue light. The God question is proven mathematically, hint "Transfinite number" Hyperreal numbesr" Dedekind-infinite set".. Evolution and math don't get along! what equation you use?
GrapplingIgnorance, you make some excellent points, points that I haven't even considered. Keep it up dude, this is a great channel and I love listening to your sarcastic comments, especially @ 1:19, makes me laugh my ass off.
But he even lies about the unlikeliness. Studying biology, physics and chemistry shows that the universe is prone to "creating" complex systems and structures (without any intention of course). That's how minerals, planets, diamonds form for example. There's one mathematical simulation, "Game of Life", which shows how even a set of 3 simple rules can create, through interaction, amazing complexity.
The process of creating the basics of life has already been documented and found. Stanley Miller in 1953 was the first who successfully created amino acids i.e. Primordial Soup. We also have found life on Neptune's moon Triton, as small cell organism.
It is better to say that life does exist and is more common than we usually think. As a species, we tend to only see life as complex creatures like what we see on Earth, excluding life smaller than the size of 4 micrometre.
How slim were the chances of human evolution...on the Sun, Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter and its moons, Saturn and its moons, Uranus et al, Neptune et al, Pluto et al, Eris, deep space... Oh, right...we DIDN'T evolve there...just here.
How slim were the chances that the one sperm out of the 100 million in EACH ejaculation would make it to an egg. Well, FAR less than 1 in 100 million.
What are the chances of smallpox evolving?...AH! I SEE GOD'S INVOLVEMENT!
Actually the odds are accurate... by chance alone,
however as I am sure you know evolution is not actually random.
I do not recall the actually odds of us to happen via evolution Ep3: Climbing Mount Improbable - Growing Up in the Universe - Richard Dawkins
PestoPosta 3 weeks ago
Your thumbnail makes it look like you're holding a big cock. LOL
TehFunnehMann 2 months ago
I never got how that argument works, the simplest explanation is that the universe If it exists has a probability of 1 that it is in one state, the universe could be in any other state, but it always has to be in one.
ArsonistInUrFirewall 4 months ago
1:55 WOW that's my favorite book of all time!
miretchin 5 months ago
great video, darkmatter2525 also made a good video on the subject on his other channel darkantics. one thing though, what exactly would the odds of their god creating it this way be?
wearestarstuffsagan 5 months ago
He's blinded me..... WITH SCIENCE!
DevonRupert 5 months ago
this is gonna bring up alot of controversy XD
and this video is already full of it, but whatever...
religion is bullshit.
just ask george carlin.
AmazingUps 5 months ago
The likeliness of it happening explains why it hasn't happened again, what it hasn't explained though is if we were made by a God in the sky, why hasn't he made more?
DeathnoteBB 6 months ago
AHhhh! I wanted to say exactly this all last semester in my philosophy class except that I would not have been able to say it as well and eloquently as you. Partly because my teacher made me so frustrated to begin with that sitting in his class was a big enough struggle.
vanishing446 7 months ago
These creationists do realize that there were millions of possibilities for inteligent life on our planet right
deathman1021 8 months ago
Never tell me the odds!
dRevan64 8 months ago 7
@dRevan64 Great shot kid, but don't get cocky.
GrapplingIgnorance 8 months ago 10
@GrapplingIgnorance It was an easy reference, but I love you now anyway.
dRevan64 8 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance lol
chrisstevensjunior 8 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance dRevan64 and I have sith screen names, the odds of this must be pretty bad. Therefore God must exist because how else could such a thing happen? I am compelled by divine influence to also quote Han Solo. "The odds are irrelevant." Oh wait, that wasn't a Han quote... I guess God doesn't exist.
Plagueis1017 8 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance You're here aren't you so don't sweat it. and if you weren't it wouldn't matter.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
LITERABLY
JimboWizbo 9 months ago
"Conjure."
Sounds like you got some sort of atheist/satanist grimoire or something there... I'm not sure I can trust you.
w35m4n 10 months ago
you look like a atari character =D
tovartalero 10 months ago
haha quote of the year "We are on the right spot and THAT's why we're alive. Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever. Out of billions of billions of planets" and please name your scientific data to prove this outrageous non mathematical quote(give all the planets discovered), because I might as well watch a rerun of ET!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Please, tell me you're joking. You don't REALLY think that the planets in our solar system are the only planets in the entire universe do you?
GrapplingIgnorance 10 months ago 4
@GrapplingIgnorance: They are "supposedly other planets" which have been found outside our solar system, but could scientifically prove me that they are "billions and Billions of planets" is that an assumption? or a scientific true? if so I would like a list of these planets and there names!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Your 1st flaw is assuming all knowledge is representative of 100% certainty. In science, we gain knowledge from what all evidence suggests & supports as true. That is accepted as knowledge until contradicting info arrives with more evidence in its favor. Recent astrophysics conclude "there are at least 100 billion stars with planets in our Galaxy... With about 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, our result suggests... at least 10 trillion planetary systems..."
GrapplingIgnorance 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance your first flaw is you sound like a philosopher more than a scientist. You bring concepts that are not backed by our only way of measuring compex problems; data and numbers! Bones don't prove evolution, you know that is true but you assume they do!
this is an article done in the UK "Our galaxy MAY contain billions of planets with the same mass as Earth" the word "MAY" is not a fact is a maybe "100/50" 100/49"
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Our galaxy is "Barred Spiral" and were bigger; unlike most " spiral galaxies" like Andromeda that are smaller. Each galaxy offers a different composure; its estimated that many might actually work separately different from our milky way. (that is a huge possibility) a whirlwind works different than a whole-pool in our planet, yet they share commonalities. Same is quite possible with other galaxies inside space. we are not sure planets can be form in other galaxies
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Consequently planet formation in other galaxies, "spiral ones" might not actually occur at the ratio that The Milky Way galaxy is different in shape from most other galaxies. other galaxies like Elliptical galaxies are the most common, but are more difficult to see, because they are not as bright as spiral galaxies. that is astronomy 101. using a Spectrograph to calculate mass, density, albedo and radiation is extremely infective in space.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance using math with physics is the only way to calculate planet formation, but is only based on the model of our solar system; other regions inside our own galaxy might not work the same way, and other galaxies might fallow other models (we don't know). So we are basing our knowledge in how space work, based on our knowledge of our solar system (a small region in our solar system)! do you see the point? My major is in Astrophysics, and doing my masters in cosmology.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Don't delete my comments its a sign of losing an argument! , so I am asking you to show me the billions of billions of planets that our friend the black belt Krav Maga soldier says exist? What prove to you have they're billions of planets? have we observed billions of planets? can you tell me at least 10.000 or less than their names? and what would be the mathematical odds of others having life like our beloved poster indicates bellow? please give me references, not opinion!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Did you even watch the video I told you about ? For christ's sake, the Kepler space telescope had found dozens of habitable planets in half it's mission time. Plus it's an accepted (not by willful ignorants, I'll give you that) fact that there are billions of planets in our galaxy alone. And your comment about how I should not base my thinking on videos ? Then what the fuck are you doing on youtube ? You shouldn't watch nor post videos if that's what you think.
gilless429 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Also, I believe the Hubble found several Earth-type planets recently.
OgreMECH 7 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword
Go look up the Kepler Spacecraft.
Checkmate!
NorseMariner7 8 months ago
What are odds? Impossible! That is if you believe in math, but if you believe in Evolution then skipp the math, but don't complain when mathematics people laugh at evolution!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Did you even watch the video?
GrapplingIgnorance 10 months ago 6
@GrapplingIgnorance the argument is valid, but not conclusive.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance I think he did, since he doesn't mind denying all evidence I put under his nose. He just makes the common leap of faith between low chances and no chances. Good vid, as always !
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 where is the evidence? where is the mathematical odds? oh ok, ITS UNDER YOUR NOSE!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You yet again talk about odds. If you're so good at probabilities, let's see. Billions of billions of planets (oh, but that's a conspiracy to take us away from god too !), and only one with life. Let's see... Pretty little ain't it ? And you want evidence ? Just don't deny that which is put right under your nose, and then we'll talk.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Your nose must of evolved right next to your ear because you are not listening but arguing facts that are unarguable! Billions of planets? again...OH LORD...have you observed billions of planets? how do you know they are that many? tell me all there names? count them one by one in front of a camera!! haha, show science what they haven't proven yet but assumed! Go on...Ill be the first one to watch your video!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Its true this probaility logic that people come up with is stupid. Lets make a very basic assumption for a rock that is pure Silicon. Now a 1kg rock would be 1000/28 mol. Which is (1000/28)(*6x10^23) atoms (for a block of pure silicon). This is about 2.1x10^25 atoms. So the probabilty of a particular arangment of atoms occuring is 1/(2.1x10^25)! which is approx 1/10^(10^(10^(1.4))). For a normal rock with more than 1 type of atom, far lower than this. Yet I see rocks everyday
QuantumOverlord 8 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Your video was riddled with mathematical and argumentative fallacies. Your dictionary example was cute and I get your point, but if you'd ever taken a stats class, you'd realize there is 0 chance of life just happening, And by the end of your video all you've got on your side is a load of ad verecundiam with all your big words with little substance fighting an argument that was never really disputed. I'm glad you're putting your ideas out, but don't take yourself so seriously
eongreen22 6 months ago
@eongreen22 Kindly explain to me who says life "just happened."
GrapplingIgnorance 6 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Um, in what way does mathematics contridict evolution?
QuantumOverlord 8 months ago
A lot of theists try to say that because "we live on Earth, instead of elsewhere, where the conditions may not be ideal," they have proof of a deity. They say that the chance of our development in the good conditions are astronomical, and suggest the existence of a god.
Of course, that argument is irrelevant and is greatly flawed. What they never seem to consider, is that maybe we came to live here instead of elsewhere BECAUSE the conditions were right; NOT because of chance.
Unicyclist90210 1 year ago
Dude I can't believe I found someone who makes videos on the arguments I make!! I have been wondering if anyone has thought of the same things and you have thought of many of them! :D Thank you for posts!
Seanze329 1 year ago
"It could just be coincidence". Look that video up or click and check it out on my channel. You will find that the odds are actually a lot better than these theists would have them sound. If you decide to look it up the video on the search engine you’ll know you found the right one if you see a picture of William Shakespeare on the video picture
TheMagicSandwichist 1 year ago
"If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?"
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.".
-Carl Sagan
gidgetgoes1128 1 year ago 4
Good video! :) I like to think of it as flipping a coin and it landing heads up. What are the chances of getting a heads up? %100. I can prove it just by looking at the coin. Calling the odds on an un-flipped coin is a different question.
MrWindfall 1 year ago
It's cute watching the little fundies stumble over big numbers.
It's like they think their smart or something =^_^=
Too bad Sheep actually listen to such nonsense ¬_¬
BlankPicketSign 1 year ago
I wonder if anyone has ever calculated the odds of there being a god based on all available, credible and sound evidence? My bet? They have and they didn't like the outcome.
dgeypscun 1 year ago
What are the odds that systems of molecules that can copy themselves in their environments will do so in accordance with the laws of chemistry?
If they didn't then the laws of chemistry would not be the laws of chemistry.
drandersw 1 year ago
Those probability numbers are intellectual filth for several reasons.
drandersw 1 year ago
You know the crowd he is talking to has no idea what 10 to what ever power means.
Notnowredman 1 year ago
odds don't matter,if there are multiple universes that disproves the theory that something can't happen because the odds.Well 99.99% of the big bang exploding and the universe not reaching maturity still means that 0.01% that it will happen.And in infinite number of universes that will happen a lot of times.Numbers lie in this instance...
robertextremu 1 year ago
Lol Cunt Hovind said literably.
FHomeBrew 1 year ago
Either way it doesn't matter...neither can absolutely prove what they theorize. So, whats the point in arguing about something so futile. None of us was there.
thinker900 1 year ago
@thinker900 The point is that religion has a disproportionate about of power/money/followers to real information. When religions claim they have answers they can't know, while scientis have devleoped structured theories with actual evidence, the scientific voice has to speak up about what there seems to be a natural explanation for when religions are demanding people's money attention etc. by giving credit for that occurance to their fictional God.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago 6
@GrapplingIgnorance Well, I do admit that science has opened the door to possiblities...like religion it is not absolute or concrete. At best they are able to find patterns given a set of controled circumstances. Then given a equation to try and explain the phenomenon. But it is a lot better than just relying on a book that is several thosand years old. On the other hand, it shouldn't be ignored either. As for the money and power issue...I never gave a single tiding.
thinker900 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Actually by your same standards evolution has discredit other theories as well, and so has western physics if compared with Mayan or Chinese mathematics. Evolution is impossible according to mathematics, and that is indisputable. If you pick a word, you are crediting that you chose (unconsciously or consciously) an example to prove something. That's the point! Random mutations do not pick themselves, as much as word could not pick itself, it needs someone with intelligence!
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword You demonstrate a great lack of understanding for the fundamental principles of evolution. It is not something that fits into an equation or liklihood as I clearly explained in this video. Mutations, both detrimental and beneficial occour multiple times throughout every generation of every species. They are not chosen at all- the beneficial ones have a higher chance of being passed on, and the harmful ones have a lower chance of survival, which causes speciation. Look it up.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Well you also seem to ignore the possibility of happening "randomly", even though when tested "guided" by human intelligence for over 60 years, it hasn't work. You tell me! I am not saying that such mutations don't occur, small variations indeed happen, specially in the genome, but within species these variations and chance mutations don't allow macro evolution. My question is simple, show me one example where any organism is in the process of macro mutation (not micro)!
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword Your question reeks of ignorance. Macro evolution is the change that takes place through many stages of micro evolution. Your position would be like saying "show me just one example of a 24 hour day happening. You can't use seconds or miniutes in your example- but if 24 consecutive hours doesn't occur all at once then it must never happen! I strongly suggest you do some research before carrying on like this.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance It is a "theory" that micro came to Macro, it is "NOT TESTED" if is proven what research can you guide me through that I may believe you? What mathematics do you use, for micro to macro to come about? 24 hours? Well, whats funny is that it is tested that with a higher amplitude of electromagnetism you can elevate the growth of plants. A good example would be grass developing close to a electrical tower, it grows quicker than regular plants. I also recommend you to study more!
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword You have just proven that you don't understand the difference between a theory and a hypothesis. In terms of science, a theory is a conclusion arrived upon using a vast compilation of facts to explain something. This is why gravity is a theory. The only reason I can see for your insistence of denying evolution is that you find it conflicts with your religious beliefs. Plenty of Christians have accepted evolution and still believe in their God. It's okay to be educated.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance lets take a look. Theory = observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules. A) Evolution is NOT OBSERVABLE, what is evolving?...B) Their is NO MATHEMATICS, that explains neither random odds or systems changing mechanisms within evolution...C) No one has survived to explain what was OBSERVED in evolutionary biology 2.5 billion years ago; their is no math to prove these mutational engineering systems in any equation! not science! case closed!
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword Science has proved the human genom mutates. Evolutionism wins. Case closed.
gilless429 11 months ago
@gilless429 sure.. genome proves micro evolution. were is the macro? my cat is not a dog..yet lol!. ...in the other side...historians from many different universities are coming to the conclusion that there was an ancient world wide flood recorded by many separate different cultures, that would explain why they find petroleum in desert regions like Saudi Arabia under geological pressures that were abruptly destabilized by millions on litters of water. Case closed. Evolution is false.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Ah, the flood argument... I'll answer with a question : Does it really surprise you that on a planet more than half covered of water, with weather and therefore rain, all cultures recorded a big flood ? The historians, like you say, who conclude what you do out of this have a view of facts twisted by belief. Making theories without data, one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of twisting theories to suit facts. Sherlock Holmes.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Its funny how you talk about data! yet you wouldn't explain with math how evolution predicts or can be calculated, as its neither observable. Data? haha, tell us the amount of possibilities it would take to have the sun close to earth, the moon with the right gravity pull, the earth to not spin faster, the sun to not produce more energy...all the way to evolution. Lets all have a laugh, Mr Darwin!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You don't get it ? Of course we're in the right spot with the right conditions. Otherwise we'd be dead. There have no doubt been other species on other planets that tried to manage like we do now. Whether it's us or them in the right spot, somone has to be, or there'd be no life anywhere. That our planet is the one in the right place is no miracle. You don't get that do you ? It could have been another planet. We could have not lived.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Yeah no shit, we are in the right sport in the right conditions! what is that a conclusion you came up too right now? lol. You say species, but according to most scientist could you tell me where could I find a species, what is a species, can you point me to one? Challenge your own words! lol you say "That our planet is in the right place is no miracle" well mathematically speaking you better believe in miracles when it comes down to our planet which is why grappling discuses the vid
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Humans are a species. Why ? You can't search in a dictionnary ? You don't get it. First, low chances doesn't mean no chance. Already said that. And then, if we had not been in the right place, one planet, somewhere in the universe would have been. You don't seem to understand that part. This ONE planet had little chance of being in the exact good place. But for one of the planets in the universe to be, it's not that unlikely.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You are wrong scientist don't really know what a species is, that is a scientific "Vague" word, but apparently its something you need to research further. If you go by the "many universes theory" then if you believe the universe is infinite, no doubt God Exist, if you say the universes are not infinite again you not only fall in "odds" but "how many universes"? how big are they? maybe one of them is as big a peanut? then your odds play against you, you still need a point of origin.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword There's Einstein's theory that's around the big bang (I'm too tired to explain, but you can google it if you want), and there are lots of other theories. And even if the universe is not infinite, it's huge. I mean, solar systems like ours have around a dozen of planets. Each galaxy has hundreds (and I'm going low) of solar systems, and our universe has hundreds (I again am going low) of galaxies. Out of all those planets, if none had life... THAT would be sci-fi.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 there is a lot of problems with Einsteins theory, one of them is in the field of quantum Mechanics, "Particle Duality" is a faster than light. Research. Two particles in to different parts of the Universe will rotate if one moves, the transmission from A to particle B is faster than Light. Then Einstein has another problem with the Expanding universe as the Expanding universe is expanding faster than its original bang. That is impossible. Einstein is in problems. try again!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword M-theory. Ever heard of it ? And Einstein's theory is unlikely to be true, but your god is not any better on that part.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You just said Einsteins is a a theory, so yes I know what a theory is! Did you know theories are not facts? thank you, and Einstein had lots of problems with Quantum Mechanics, a class I took in college several years ago. So tell us all Mr M-theorist how does the universe expand faster using the laws of Einstein that you so heavily defend? Go on explain...!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : How arrogant and full of yourself are you to think we would have been there anyway ? This argument has been crushed a long time ago. Out of all the planets around, one has to be in the right spot, and it happened to be ours. It would be a surprising thing if there were no other planets around. But there are lots of them. So this argument is fallacious. Oh, and you took the very common creationist leap of faith between little probabilities and no probability.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 The argument is still in progress, as evolution is not a law but a pausable non mathermatical theory, and therefore saying the argument is crushed is outerly stupid, to say the least. You are wrong! The sun could of being a million different ways, the moon could of been bigger or smaller (that would be disastrous), we could of had three moons, (chaotic ocean tides), why do we have a liquid core? unlike venus or mars? Our planet could of being faster, more force, we would be toast
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword I never said the contrary. You are so short-minded I can barely believe it. I'm going to say it again : We COULD have been toast, like you say. Some planet have been, or are inhabitable. We are on the right spot and THAT's why we're alive. Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever. Out of billions of billions of planets in the universe, the probability of none being in the right place is...ridiculously low.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You state something completely unscientific "Lots of other planets have had life, but it died wuickly because of the bad position or whatever" that is utterly stupid and you say I am short minded?haha. What proof do you have that "they are" or have "being" living organism in other planets, because we have sent a number of space proves, and nothing has come about, then you have the mathematical odds. You call me short minded, well you need to study more buddy and stop smoking!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Are you really arrogant enough to think humans and animals are the only life froms around ? Yes, you then are short-minded. Wanna talk about proof ? What proof do you have any of your beliefs is true ? You're really in a bad place to ask proof. And given all the planets in the universe, the odds of life existing on an other one are astronomically higher than those of a sky-daddy having poofed the whole thing into existence.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You said a post ago the most stupid thing I have ever heard, you said they will find life outside of earth...haha did ET tell you he was going to make a part two? stop smoking. If the Universe is infinite then there is no time, you cannot have time inside infinity that is retarded. Its like me opening a door forever, closing a door forever, going out the door forever. that is impossible and odds would not work. But under time is when odds play a factor, evolution out of odds.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Why, in FUCK, would the universe need to be infinite to have life other than us ? Finite doesn't mean little. It can be HUGE, but not infinite. And if you truly think you KNOW there is life nowhere else than on earth, then you are arrogant and ignorant. So many planets and you think ours is the only one ? Give me a break... I'm not saying on Mars, but given the probabilities that you like to mension, it's near impossible for earth to be the only one.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Again more stupid logic. You need an infinite universe without time to make any odds possible. The theory of evolution EXCEEDS mathematically the possibilities of chance itself; so without infinity EVOLUTION is just pure imagination as it violates the laws of possibilities. Do you need understand that, or do you need ELMO TO TEACH YOU MATH?
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
please name the planets where life had "wuickly" been terminated because of "the bad position or whatever"
airsoftbunker 10 months ago
@airsoftbunker Please name the odds that there is life on no other planet than earth given the billions of billions of planets that the universe contains. I never said there was life somewhere else, I just stated that eliminating the possibility as quickly (not wuickly) as he did, given the probabilities, is illogical. Excuse me if my spelling or tone was unpleasant, but he kinda pissed me off, never giving proof of what he said but saying it like fact. I hope we can have a polite conversation.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 (double post) you stated life was lost on other planets, so are you saying we are the only planet with life? that would be contridicting or statement of the possibilities of life on other planets. what percentage of planets have you or scientists found in the "billions" of other planets that have the right conditions for life. If none does that mean that there are no proven facts for their theories? I understand the odds of there not being any planets,
airsoftbunker 10 months ago
@airsoftbunker Sorry not to answer more in details but start by watching the video : Creationists Fail Again by darkmatter2525. Don't worry it shouldn't insult your beliefs. And I meant that there is no life on the planets we already searched because in the not searched ones I actually think there are some that have life.
gilless429 10 months ago
@airsoftbunker Double post : It's nice to have an educated conversation, because some people don't know anything else than agressivity and insults. Like our dear ChristianBibleSword. I think I'll just ignore him. He's another fanatical. I have no problem with the belief in a god or anything, but some just push it.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 understandable, however what are your positions on the questions i asked and you did not answers. i appreciate the feedback. i dont have problems wit your beliefs as well, but i want to know why you believe them.
airsoftbunker 10 months ago
@airsoftbunker Did you read my other comment ? This was only one of the two. Youtube only puts the last sent to you from the video in your inbox so sometimes you have to look at the comments down to read the whole answer (that's why I say double post). If you did read the other comment but that wasn't enough, I'll answer in a more precise way. But no use in saying it again if you didn't read the other comment. I appreciate the feedback too !
gilless429 10 months ago
@airsoftbunker Like I said you should watch the video I talked about. But here's what I have to answer. I think that there is life on other planets somewhere in the universe. The Kepler space telescope has already found a handful of planets that could have life (life like us). They didn't go and check on the planets, but the simple fact that in so little time they found all those planets makes it unlikely for life to only be on earth.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 but why are you using mathematical terms to describe somethin that isnt mathematical. Then describe the mathematical chances of the the nickle core producing a feild from radiation, the sun is a perfect size, the moon is not to big or small, we dont have two or three moons (the norm), the orbit of our planet is not faster or slower, the list goes on... ( no fights , just looking for knowledge!!)
airsoftbunker 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Double post (that means you should read my other answer too) : Creationists deny any sort of evolution. Macro or micro. If you don't, you're not a creationist, but something close. So evolutionism may not win by itself, but since real creationism loses...
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Fact is there was a world wide flood as opposed to a giant earth quake, and even taking the bible apart it wouldn't matter, you still have hundreds of cultures explaining it, water erosion its found in mountains arround the world, that has calcified strata with salidity (exclude rain, as h20 cannot transport minerals), but its your turn amigo, tell us about the math and the physics that led you to believe in the theory of evolution. what equation does nature use? lets laugh...lol
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You say this like a fact. There have been several floods since the beggining of humanity. Of course since the planet is 70 percent covered in water. It's not a giant flood that happened, it's separate little ones. No one during those floods could think it just happened to them, since floods had not been explained yet. The burden of proof is on the claimer. You have no proof. This is not an argument, but a belief twisted fallacy.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 I have ten trillion questions evolution could never explain, not forgetting they lack any physics to explain their own theory with logical calculations tested on any laboratory. Did they spark life in your laboratory? lol. The only fact here is that there was a world wide ancient flood recorded by many different cultures, they could of all recorded a giant earth quake, or a giant comet, but curiously they all talk about a world wide flood. The ancients weren't all lying right?
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You twist facts the way you like them. There also have been scriptures talking about things that now seem like earthquakes. But the bible talks about a flood, so you only take the flood part. And if you didn't understand that this argument was put to shreds by mine, I pity you, for religion made you blind. One last attempt : go see "Global Flood Myths.....so what?" by rationalwarrior
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 I have read a number of geological books, that explain strata and salt at high points in mountains, its is actually a huge problem for geologist to explain because it happens to be that salt is a heavy element, and huge amounts don't naturally form in rocks. They found pink salt at the Himalayas, and all mountains actually have this same problem (they have salt), thanks to pressure and temperature these have affected the mineral. there was an ancient world wide flood!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You yet again twist all evidence. AND ignore what I say. No evidence points toward a world-wide flood. Evidence points toward lots of water having been all around. But what proof do you have it wasn't lots of floods all around, but not at the same time. Decades, maybe even centuries apart. Say again there has been a world wide flood if you want, but there is no evidence of that.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 OK. You are by no means an historian stop reading comic books. Go to your history department, if you go to college, and ask professors about an historical event that ancients seem to agree on. Then go and tell them they are wrong, and slap yourself before they call you stupid. I go to Ohio State University, and even my geological professor who got is PHD in Princeton and travels world wide is told us about this event, something shared by another ancient history professor. they agree
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Don't you think they were creationists before ? Or did they SEE THE LIGHT ! They already had their beliefs, and those beliefs twisted their thinking. And just because supposedly intelligent people say it's true doesn't mean it is. For example, Sir Isaac Newton. He was a believer. But also an alchemist. Does his works on gravity prove he was right in thinking that metals have magic properties and could be combined to make gold ? Even intelligent people can be blind.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 then you have a bigger problem as the book commented, evaporation do to the meteor that hit the golf of Mexico would of A) cracked the Asthenosphere and water vapor coming from the ocean could not transport enough salt to cover all the highest points in the earth. You need a huge flood to explain that, which is what the ancients also recalled. It is us in the 21century that have decided what the earth look like before, but the ancients had the experience and can be easily proven!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Yet again, you proved there has been a flood at that place, but not a world wide one. OF COURSE there have been floods. 70 percent water, remember ? But if you think any of that is evidence of a world wide flood, I fear I'm gonna have to keep pitying you.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 See this is the problem with Evolutionist, lol they get information that is true and ignore it, but then when you ask them about mathematics they simply whistle and simply say "hey where here fuck the odds" so don't blame others for saying "fuck how we got here God exist" you guys ask for prove of God and then you can't provide prove with math (what hypocrites!). water in desert regions, salt in high points, water in deep caves....NVM we come from primordial cambells soup haha!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Okay, you're making me sick. Well done. The mutation of the human genome has been proved. We found fossils (like the archeopteryx) that show a clear transition from one animal to an other, which makes your above comment stupid and ignorant, the earth has (you can deny and say we can't know, but it's fucking FACT, dumbnuts) been proved 4.54. The DNA, embriology... There are tons of proofs, but YOU ignore it. And OF COURSE, science doesn't know everything, ...cont...
gilless429 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword ...cont... (I meant 4.54 billion years old, not 4.54) but that doesn't mean you can just put whatever you want instead of it. At one point everyone thought the earth was flat. But science proved it wrong. Does the fact that science didn't know it before make it false ? Of course not ! I'm starting to wonder if you really are a student at the ohio state university. I mean don't they have some kind of admissions criteria ? And then again, you can prove there's been ...cont...
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You are wrong the ancients did believe the world was round he concept of a spherical Earth dates back to ancient Greek philosophy from around the 6th century BC. The Mayas knew the planets where also spherical, and to top that off "MR NO HISTORY" the Sumerians new about nine planets and new about the earth spherical form....then you had sea traders and pirates that new the world was spherical of night navigation before most scientist did. It was debated before you existed.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword floods all around, which doesn't mean much in 4.54 billion years, but not that there have been floods at different times. Centuries apart. Million years apart. Billion years apart even. You don't seem to make the difference between the two. And "get information that is true"? You only said it, didn't prove it. If I just said, I don't know : Brad Pitt is romanian ! Do you believe me until I give you proof (which, in both cases, doesn't exist) ? Nope !
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Local floods would not be a problem here if the ancients claimed that it was local; however, ancients claim a worldwide flood... Most ancients were nomads as urbanization unlike now, was not the "norm" and it did affect their trading routes, so they would of known of such a catastrophe affecting others not just the locals. Why would you claim a worldwide flood if it wasn't? Go ahead..explain because it is recorded they recalled a worldwide flood (AN HISTORICAL RECORD)go on explain.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Double post (well it's my fourth answer total) : I believe in evolutionism mainly because the earth has been proved 4.54 billion years old by radiometric dating methods. You can say they're not accurate but they actually are, unlike carbon dating. 5 millions years mistaken is the max, and that still disproves creationism. Now you can rant about conspirations by illuminatis to take us away from god, but it's not just allegations like creationism. It's fact.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 according to radiometric dating? is just one of many pick and choose option to calculate the earths age. Salidity in the oceans is another, solar rotation,,,movements of the stars, but ofcuourse scientist cannot calculate stellar radioactive dating with carbon14, because they are too far away and using spectrographs is defaulted as space itself is a vaccum of waves. Another problem, we don't really know what is the core of the sun works, so if its that old, how much energy you need?
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Check out my other answers too. All you say is that there are tons of way to calculate the earth's age. And so ? All of them (except your bible, which is NOT a valid measurement tool), accurate or not, indicate the earth is older than what your holy book says. What, is it a worldwide conspiracy to make god hate us ? The illuminatis taking control ? Say all you want, but you can't refute that. You can say it's a lie, or untrue, but no amount of belief makes something a fact.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Most ancient discoveries in history have being bible based and it is "documented" but perhaps ask the historians that made the discoveries, because if they asked you forget about archeology haha. It is simply irrational to calculate the past without a time machine, because the past as much as theory, in quantitative research has to be observable and testable. You cannot test the past, because its gone. Telling me how old is a rock, having multiple methods, is like not having any
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword So here we are. The phase where you deny it all. IT'S A CONSPIRATION !!! WE CAN'T KNOW THE PAST !!! Sorry, but I've already heard that. And of couse we can know the past without being there. FIrst of all, if we can't, then how do you know god poofed it all ? And that there has been a world wide flood ? Tsk tsk, self contradiction.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 No its true dumb nuts we don't know the past, we can try to understand the past but that doesn't make it true. Others such as " advanced civilizations" recorded events and that's really the only guide line to understand what happened in certain events, but trolls like you who don't anything about history but believe in simply get history and trash it. Theoretical science is bullshit, its "imaginative science" we have applied science as method of use, but we don't need evolution.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword It's fun to hear you talk about science when you ignore or deny all scientific evidence. And of fucking course we can know the past ! Not the whole past, of course, but we KNOW some things that happened. You're just going deeper into it because you can't admit what you said is bullshit. If we couldn't know the past, there wouldn't be a freaking history class in school ! And I'm the one who should go back to comics (which I never read btw) ? You gotta be kidding me...
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 What a stupid contradiction haha " of fucking course we can know the past ! Not the whole past, of course" you are retarded..haha
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@gilless429 this is so funny! A self contradiction here is that I ask you for odds, and you cannot give them to me? then you say I cannot provide you with math to explain God? but hey we use infinity in physics and math! haha Whats funny is that evolutionist say that we come from the "back of crystals piggy backing each other" to form the first living organism with energy haha! I heard better stories in the bible. GO READ SOME GEOLOGICAL FINDINGS, THEN COME BACK AND ARGUE! you sound stupid!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You say I sound stupid, that I'm funny, and blablabla... But until you give evidence to support that claim, it's worth as much as a 2000 dollars note (in case you didn't realise, they don't exist). And your claim that we evolutionists believe "that we come from the "back of crystals piggy backing each other"" shows your ignorance. I'm happy I don't know you personally, since I have a low tolerance for stupidity and willful ignorance.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You are also lucky I don't know you because you would be a great punching bag because when people are as stupid as you they need to be hit like a TV that's not functioning properly. LOOK TROLL, HERE IS THE ARTICLE OF YOUR CRYSTAL SO CALLED EVOLUTION...dna.caltech.edu/Papers/dna-crystal-evolution.pdf READ IT AND GO DROWN YOURSELF INSIDE THAT PRIMORDIAL SOUP OF YOURS.
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : We found fossils, THAT for example allows us to know the past without being there. And sorry to disapoint you, but saying those methods don't work doesn't magically make it true. If you're going to deny evidence, there is no point to this conversation. I don't need an other fanatical willful ignorant ranting about scientists lying. I've had my lot of those.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 BONES DO NOT PROVE EVOLUTION.. do you need prove of this from your own theorist? the Cambrian Period seems a headache for evolutionist who are trying to look for the HOX GENE, an illusion more than a fact! the programming code of life, according to evolutionists, is just a series of biochemical accidents and mutations? haha, yeah right!! So if I find a IPAD, I will tell the apple engineers, that the wind did it over a million years, but hey its easier than making a human! haha!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Look at my past comments, you'll find an answer. And if you don't believe me (which I encourage, since skepticism is the base of rationality, something you've been out of for some time), gogle it. There are many fossils proving a clear transition from one animal to an other. And it's not an accident. That's a common creationist misconception. You can't consider anything else than god or chance can you ? What about the fact that there are billions of planets so the ...cont...
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 I think the only skeptic here is me, as anyone that reads your post most be really ashamed of representing evolutionary theory. I told YOU TEN TRILLION TIMES BONES DON'T PROVE EVOLUTION! GO AND ASK YOUR BELOVED SCIENTIST IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, THEY ARE THE ONES TELLING IT NOT ME CLOWN! are they're billions of planets? did you send a satellite to prove that they're billions of planets? or did you also make that up like the ALIENS? haha! keep rolling and watching more Star Trek!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword ...cont... probability (oh, your dear probabilities) of life being nowhere else is slimer than you can imagine. And your mocking shows yet again your ignorance and judgemental ways. It's unlikely ? Well then it's impossible ! What a freaking joke you are... And there is proof of evolution. You just ignore it. Did you know that less than 1 percent of scientists are creationists ? Oh, but it's because they only take fools ! Or whatever pretty little excuse you have for that.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 AGAIN IN ORDER FOR EVOLUTION TO BE EFFECTIVE AND A SCIENTIFIC LAW, NOT JUST A THEORETICAL PROBLEM, WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT TOOK US THERE? WHAT PHYSICS OR MATHEMATICS CAN BE APPLIED TO EVOLUTION PREDICT AN OCCURRENCE? WHAT DOES IT CALCULATE? IS EVOLUTION OBSERVABLE? WHY DON'T WE SEE HUMANS EVOLVING WINGS TO FLY, OR SCALES TO SWIM? WHY DID RECORDED HISTORY START 5000 BC? WHY NOT 2 MILLION YEARS AGO? COMMON ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS...AND STOP GOING IN CIRCLES!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Triple post : No story in the bible, and I mean absolutely none, has ever been proven.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Its funny that I am still looking for a species..I grabbed my camera just in case I bump into one. I think that coming from an ancient soup or in the back of metamorphic (haha) crystals is a more plausible explanation than God; hey! after all complex systems we make are NOT engineered, we depend on the wind. My best advice is stop making new projects, the wind will take care of them, it might take some time dough!! your right, fuck math, physics, history & science! EVO ROCKS! HAHA
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword You just laugh your ass off without disproving anything. And worse, you ignore all proof. You are pathetic. I won't talk to you anymore, the time I could spend with you is better spent trying to convince people with at least half their mind. I hope you realise you're wrong before you die, because you won't enjoy life as much thinking there's an afterlife. I hope your belief make you feel better about death, but let me tell you : it's never good or clean. Farewell.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 AGAIN OH GEEZ!! TELL US WHAT THE ODDS ARE, ((NOTICE THAT IS THE TOPIC OF THE VIDEO??)) GRAPPLING IGNORES THEM..AND THAT IS OK! SO DO YOU IGNORE THEM TOO, AND IS IT SCIENCE TO IGNORE THE MATHEMATICAL POSSIBILITIES ON HOW WE GOT HERE? IF YOU IGNORE THEM FIND, BUT DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT SCIENCE, WHEN YOU CAN'T PROVIDE THE READERS WITH ANY!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword If you believe that was a contradiction you're worse than I thought. Same for believing people always knew the earth was round. Galileo was burned for thinking the contrary. And taking one article from one man for the beliefs of the whole of evolutionists is beyond stupid. Your vulgarity and agressivity show how stupid you are. And fyi I served in the army from 2000 to 2008 and am a black belt in krav maga so given how you look on your vids, you can keep your stupid threats.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 How stupid you are, ancients did believe the earth was round! Specially cultures that based their sciences on stars and cosmological data. Go research!! THAT MAN IS ONE OF THE TOP RESEARCHERS OF EVOLUTIONARY THEORY? HE IS DONE MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN EVOLUTION THAT YOU WILL EVER DO IN FIVE LIFE TIMES? IS THE PRIMORDIAL SOUP ALSO CONCEPT OF EVOLUTIONARY START? LOL!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@gilless429 YOU STARTED THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT YOU TRYING TO FIGHT ME PERSONALLY? I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU ARE A KRAV MAGA TOP IDF SOLDIER IN ISRAEL, THAT'S HONESTLY EVEN BETTER, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN ENOUGH FIGHTS AND COMPETITIONS AND LOST ONE IN ARIZONA, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO COMPETE AGAINST YOU BECAUSE I TRAINED WITH USA MARINES AND RANGERS IN OHIO, AND THEIR STAND UP BLOWS BALLS, THEY'RE ONLY GOOD AT WEAPONS! YOU TEST THE FIGHTER BY HIS WEIGHT? YOU ARE NO FIGHTER! DON'T THREAT YOU FUCKHEAD!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Double post : If you had understood the video, something your brain, or lack thereof, stops you from doing, you would have understood the odds are irrelevant. Your vulgarity and agressivity would send you to the fifth circle of hell if god existed. I'll say hi from the sixth (non-believers if you don't know). Now say what you want, I won't answer to you. In fact could you shut up, since I am having a conversation with an other guy here, and would like to know his answer.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 you have to be the most stupid man alive! it is easy to understand the video. You are jumping, the mathematical odds that took to get to evolution to prove a theory that's not a law. if you say yes then you confessed that skipping the odds is science! lol. If you say no, that means that you don't even know what you are talking about, which is probably the best answer. you can't answer me, so go on circles like a butterfly because you know that what I am saying is true. deal with it
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Triple post (so check the other comments) : By the way, about that earth being in the right spot for life thing, you should watch : Creationists Fail Again by DarkMatter2525
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 You base yourself on knowledge on a youtube video??? hahaha! might as well watch ET again! And stop talking bullshit and trying to skip the conversation to another poster, that's what people without rationality do! Anyone that reads all the post will also noticed that when you started calling me names, is the moment you lost your argument, so go on, and reply to the other poster, you can even prove your own knowledge how the fuck are you going to discredit history! crazy crazy!!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword YOU started calling me names asshole. You're so pathetic I can barely believe it. And fyi anyone (any rational one) reading the posts will notice that the reason I can't convince you is not the lack of proof. I presented plenty of evidence, but you just ignore the shit out of it and go on with your theories wiithout backing them with proof. Say all you want, you may think yourself intelligent but you're just an arrogant stubborn jackass. Go read the bible and leave me alone.
gilless429 10 months ago
@gilless429 Blah Blah blah! My name is Gilles and I need a college education!
ChristianBibleSword 10 months ago
@ChristianBibleSword Blah blah blah, my name is christianbiblesword (yes, long, ridiculous name), I'm an asshole and I can't do anything else than mock people since I don't have any proof and ignore all that which is put in my face !
gilless429 10 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance That is not true. "Harmful" mutations within organism poison "other normal replicating cells", that means the organism doesn't start replicating successfully, its called cancer. If indeed these harmful variation happen within the human genome, the bone structure and calcium reproduction would of be affected too, and we have never found fossils that show any species (what ever that means) that show bone structure damage. Maybe you can tell us where are these?
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Don't mix macro and micro evolution. My response was for macro, which "supposedly" takes many years, its not being observed, nor mathematically proven so it does not stay in the field of theoretical means. Micro changes, do occur. A fly found in the north pole, capable of water reduction to avoid freezing temperatures compare with the itchy fly in New Mexico, sure..but these are still flies, flies didn't mutate into birds. Macro does not occur in nature, where? show me!
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword 500 youtube comment characters are not going to prove any scientific findings. You have to actually look into a credible book, site, video, museum, or experiment yourself. It's not hard to look up, but once you actually do the research, you'll see there's no reason NOT to accept it as the tentative answer to the question that "God did it" bears absolutely no credible answer for.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago
@GrapplingIgnorance You post in Youtube, so is that mean that all your videos a reproving something not credible? Good point. I work in astrophysics (my degree); we do experiments using particles to accelerate light production within different types of metals. For example, dealing with mercury as a conductor for blue light. The God question is proven mathematically, hint "Transfinite number" Hyperreal numbesr" Dedekind-infinite set".. Evolution and math don't get along! what equation you use?
ChristianBibleSword 1 year ago
@ChristianBibleSword " I work in astrophysics" no you dont bible boy
managarm1349 11 months ago
GrapplingIgnorance, you make some excellent points, points that I haven't even considered. Keep it up dude, this is a great channel and I love listening to your sarcastic comments, especially @ 1:19, makes me laugh my ass off.
brmadman4455 1 year ago
But he even lies about the unlikeliness. Studying biology, physics and chemistry shows that the universe is prone to "creating" complex systems and structures (without any intention of course). That's how minerals, planets, diamonds form for example. There's one mathematical simulation, "Game of Life", which shows how even a set of 3 simple rules can create, through interaction, amazing complexity.
EstrangedEstranged 1 year ago
how do you pixelate videos like that?
boonw 1 year ago
@boonw It's an effect option in windows movie maker.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago
Uhmmm... the odds of our existence are 100%. We exist, don't we?
popgrafix 1 year ago
@popgrafix
previous comment applies to you too
thabookwyrm 1 year ago
Another victory, I wish you were my teacher!!
witchlove777 1 year ago
Exactumundo!
Splendiferous!
( say, flip through your book & land on those 2 !? )
M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
I wanna punch William Lane Craig in the face!
MagentaVaInc 1 year ago
The process of creating the basics of life has already been documented and found. Stanley Miller in 1953 was the first who successfully created amino acids i.e. Primordial Soup. We also have found life on Neptune's moon Triton, as small cell organism.
It is better to say that life does exist and is more common than we usually think. As a species, we tend to only see life as complex creatures like what we see on Earth, excluding life smaller than the size of 4 micrometre.
DasStack 1 year ago
How slim were the chances of human evolution...on the Sun, Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter and its moons, Saturn and its moons, Uranus et al, Neptune et al, Pluto et al, Eris, deep space... Oh, right...we DIDN'T evolve there...just here.
How slim were the chances that the one sperm out of the 100 million in EACH ejaculation would make it to an egg. Well, FAR less than 1 in 100 million.
What are the chances of smallpox evolving?...AH! I SEE GOD'S INVOLVEMENT!
Rationalific 1 year ago
I think your videos are awesome. Keep up the good work!
jlotus100 1 year ago 6
@jlotus100 Thank you
GrapplingIgnorance 1 year ago