if one of u guys have the time, can u tell me the entire plot of mgs? i kno its alot, i tried reading off of other things, just didnt really understand. if non of you cant its ok
I never understood crap about this ending. So the US is ran by a secret sect of wackos, the "patriots", who seek external enemies in order to keep the population in their leash and expand their power with the support of corporate interests? No, that's real life. The game's scenario, I still don't have a clue what it is.
@IgorWelkenbach Here's my theory, take it with a grain of salt; the Big Shell Incident is a V.R. simulation conducted by The Patriots to test GW's capabilities. The tanker incident is a part of this as well, it sets the narrative for the player (Raiden, who's literally playing as Snake) to base the reality of Big Shell on. Raiden doesn't even exist as we know him, the blonde foxhound rookie, that's the image the patriots give to "Jack/John Doe" a guinea pig inside arsenal.
@IgorWelkenbach Continued; Jack/John Doe has no mental identity or ego, he lives off replaying V.R. simulations of Shadow Mosses thus easing into the ego of both Solid Snake (the hero of shadow mosses) and Raiden (V.R. junkie infatuated with S.S.) The characters of Solidius Snake, Revolver Ocelot and Solid Snake and The patriots are deus ex machina, a.i. with self-awareness, although their awareness is limited to the scope of Big Shell. More to come...!
@IgorWelkenbach Solidus wants out of the sim, by crushing the patriots he can leave v.r. and become 'human' (think agent smith from the matrix) Ocelot is self-aware of the sim and enjoys playing it (until he has occasional possessions ;p) The Patriots are the game masters or literally the game developers, while solid snake is the wise sage (hideo kojima) while knowing he's 'in a game' decides to make the best of it and impart wisdom on the player (Raiden/Jack/John Doe/You).
@IgorWelkenbach The whole game is a giant allegory for reality, it's literally a video game about a video game that's attempting to pass it's self off as real. Before making SOL, Kojima must have been infatuated with The Matrix, as it borrows quite a few elements. Too many players tried to rationalize the story in the traditional narrative sense, and if you do you miss the forest through the trees. Remember, this was to be the final metal gear, what a fitting end.
When people say video games are not art, I direct them to this game. Sure it may not have the aesthetic beauty of Shadow of The Colossus or Ico, but it's direction, pacing, framing&blocking, score give any Hollywood film a run for it's money. Not to mention it's story and message reach heights Final Fantasy could only dream of. It's use of post-modernism, coy societal commentary and insight into 'reality' are masterful. Snake is literally telling the player to 'decide their own fate'.
@erephertu7801 well yes there are two parts-Tanker and Plant. In the tanker you play as Snake but it's only around 30 minutes.In the plant episode you play as raiden.I dunno how long but if you skip half of the cutscenes it's around 3 hours.There was an option or extra "Snake Tails" it follows a different story from plant but it's the same place and you play with Snake that's about it.
Ok now i'm really confused Who is Raiden is he one of the snakes. they're are three snakes. Solidus , liquid and solid. So solidus is Raiden's godfather
omg which 1 is it when you have 2 sneak past a whole army of soldier watching some huge tv then at the end you fight these big rbot bosses and you use a rocket laucher
the tanker incident made to build arsenal gear and arsenal gear entering manhattn, the same thing that happend with wtc and the things to happen after that like bigger alert , microchipping(nanomachines in all series)...
Forgive the hyperactive thirteen year old below you, he doesn't know any better. However, this is NOTHING like the Kingdom Hearts ending. And beleive me, I fucking loved the game and watched the ending, Snake and Raiden are nothing like Riku or Sora or Kairi.
there is an xbox version, but its substance, not sons of liberty, and substance was the same game, just 2 years later with more features. i never bought substance, only sons of liberty
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ur kinda missing 42 minutes .. it ended after the rays got beaten .... and wheres the part they kill destiny and olga ??? the part where solidus snake kills the last of mgs rays ??when the shooter explains that it was just a training to make u belive in all that bullsh!t ?? when do they crash with the mgs boat ?? ur missing alot .. i wont even continue :D :D
I hope MGS4 doesn't come out on the xbox 360. Games on the 360 usually have little to no difficulty to suit there audience. Keep it on the PS3, keep the difficulty.
looks like the jokes on you. I like the 360 more then the PS3 but I still think it's a noob console. Until a game comes along that proves me wrong. I'm still going to stick with what I said.
If your mum was a console she would be a Super Nintendo. Just because everyone has played with her at some point. Your dad would be a PS3 because your mum told me that hes a huge disappointment. Petty enough for you?
That was poor but not as poor as your mum. Why else would she try and sell her body on the streets. If you think you mums face looks like Burt Reynolds ass post again. If you don't think so then don't post. You choose.
Obviously you've never heard of a Sony contract dumbass. Why else would Mario be exclusive to Nintendo? Or Halo exclusive to Xbox. Besides MGS4 is just the same thing as the others, there is no difference. All PS3 has for a line-up is just add-ons from the PS2 games and has NO ORIGINAL IDEAS.
Lessthenjake14 is morethenretarded14. Don't know why you sent a reply that has nothing to do with what I said. I never mentioned anything about EXCLUSIVE GAMES or ORIGINAL IDEAS. Please don't reply to me unless its related to what I said.
Metal Gear Solid 3:Snake Eater & Metal Gear Solid 3:Subsistence are both PS2 exclusives. But I've heard that Konami is pushing Hideo Kojima to put Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of the Patriots on the Xbox 360.
get a ps2...xbox wont be gettin 3 or 4...konami said that units sold on the ms system isnt cuttin it..so its once again exclusive to the king of games,sony...lol
if one of u guys have the time, can u tell me the entire plot of mgs? i kno its alot, i tried reading off of other things, just didnt really understand. if non of you cant its ok
ReyesThaGr8 1 week ago
I never understood crap about this ending. So the US is ran by a secret sect of wackos, the "patriots", who seek external enemies in order to keep the population in their leash and expand their power with the support of corporate interests? No, that's real life. The game's scenario, I still don't have a clue what it is.
IgorWelkenbach 1 month ago
@IgorWelkenbach Here's my theory, take it with a grain of salt; the Big Shell Incident is a V.R. simulation conducted by The Patriots to test GW's capabilities. The tanker incident is a part of this as well, it sets the narrative for the player (Raiden, who's literally playing as Snake) to base the reality of Big Shell on. Raiden doesn't even exist as we know him, the blonde foxhound rookie, that's the image the patriots give to "Jack/John Doe" a guinea pig inside arsenal.
LovelesOne 1 month ago
@IgorWelkenbach Continued; Jack/John Doe has no mental identity or ego, he lives off replaying V.R. simulations of Shadow Mosses thus easing into the ego of both Solid Snake (the hero of shadow mosses) and Raiden (V.R. junkie infatuated with S.S.) The characters of Solidius Snake, Revolver Ocelot and Solid Snake and The patriots are deus ex machina, a.i. with self-awareness, although their awareness is limited to the scope of Big Shell. More to come...!
LovelesOne 1 month ago
@IgorWelkenbach Solidus wants out of the sim, by crushing the patriots he can leave v.r. and become 'human' (think agent smith from the matrix) Ocelot is self-aware of the sim and enjoys playing it (until he has occasional possessions ;p) The Patriots are the game masters or literally the game developers, while solid snake is the wise sage (hideo kojima) while knowing he's 'in a game' decides to make the best of it and impart wisdom on the player (Raiden/Jack/John Doe/You).
LovelesOne 1 month ago
@IgorWelkenbach The whole game is a giant allegory for reality, it's literally a video game about a video game that's attempting to pass it's self off as real. Before making SOL, Kojima must have been infatuated with The Matrix, as it borrows quite a few elements. Too many players tried to rationalize the story in the traditional narrative sense, and if you do you miss the forest through the trees. Remember, this was to be the final metal gear, what a fitting end.
LovelesOne 1 month ago
When people say video games are not art, I direct them to this game. Sure it may not have the aesthetic beauty of Shadow of The Colossus or Ico, but it's direction, pacing, framing&blocking, score give any Hollywood film a run for it's money. Not to mention it's story and message reach heights Final Fantasy could only dream of. It's use of post-modernism, coy societal commentary and insight into 'reality' are masterful. Snake is literally telling the player to 'decide their own fate'.
LovelesOne 1 month ago
Vamp @ 5:21
shikamak 2 months ago
I like theme song!
Fykkyr 6 months ago
I don't understand how the pedestrians doesn't seem to care about a giant tanker crashed in the building.
Curseco 11 months ago
i just finished mgs2 very good game
MrPlaystationboy 1 year ago
I really liked the ending.
Im always wondering if those vides at the end, are real or not
HeartBreakStudios 1 year ago
@HeartBreakStudios they are reel from ny
MrPlaystationboy 1 year ago
Liquid Snake, Solid Snake, but no Gas Snake?
thatguyyoudontfeel 1 year ago
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mrgun17 1 year ago
@thatguyyoudontfeel Solidus snake (:
Ryosuke1208 3 months ago
My copy of the game was second hand. and the end from when Raiden speaks to Rose the game is silent.
etiscool1 1 year ago
@etiscool1 I had sorta the same, but the part from where they have Raiden at the Metal gear stuff. when ya can look around, it froze.
I had to buy a original version of it
HeartBreakStudios 1 year ago
i heard that in this game you barely play as snake, is this true?
erephertu7801 1 year ago
@erephertu7801 well yes there are two parts-Tanker and Plant. In the tanker you play as Snake but it's only around 30 minutes.In the plant episode you play as raiden.I dunno how long but if you skip half of the cutscenes it's around 3 hours.There was an option or extra "Snake Tails" it follows a different story from plant but it's the same place and you play with Snake that's about it.
StinkArmsBG 1 year ago
snake,raiden,snake,snake\raiden\,
a pattern...of..METAL GEAR
marvelspider12 1 year ago
I remember thinking "shit, Snake has the Patriots by the balls now!"
Then I watch the after-credits convo and think "FUCK."
JohnKiller118 1 year ago
You always made fun with raiden.. Wait till you see him in Rising.
Blindingscythe13 1 year ago
Vamp is next to that car in the background at 5:21.
FrankiEmo92 1 year ago
you dont have the part where otacon finds the true identity of the patriots after the credits. Oh well, still awesome!
jocoolshow 1 year ago
i wish i knew what happend... my little brother scratched my sons of liberty up and i'll never know what happens to solid snake and raiden
smokeordie08 1 year ago
Oh gee, look, the ex president is lying dead next to the statue of George Washington at Federal Hall. Hm, oh well.
New Yorkers... *shakes head*
selphiexfairy 1 year ago 2
that's right people, ignore the man in the sneaking suit with the sword on his back
Chow985 1 year ago 3
Choose your own legacy! METAL GEAR RISING!!!!!
ryosama1988 1 year ago
what the name of the song?
tuerkmen100 1 year ago
Ok now i'm really confused Who is Raiden is he one of the snakes. they're are three snakes. Solidus , liquid and solid. So solidus is Raiden's godfather
wiisalute 1 year ago
omg which 1 is it when you have 2 sneak past a whole army of soldier watching some huge tv then at the end you fight these big rbot bosses and you use a rocket laucher
drxrazor 1 year ago
@drxrazor this one it is right in the beginning of the game
NativeBaller59 1 year ago
@drxrazor That's the beginning of Metal Gear Solid 2.
shurcooL 1 year ago
have fun in your pix in mgs4 solidus
Gtran405 1 year ago
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BrandonPortelli 1 year ago
i like turtles
Motivand0LaYal 2 years ago
ignore him lol. Actually you should listen to him just for how hilarious he is. One of the best parts of the game indeed.
CMSonYT 2 years ago
does somebody know what i have to do when the colonel tells me to turn off the console????
alvaromolestinat 2 years ago
can some one tell me how i actually say La-li-lu-le-lo coz i cant remember and it fucks me off
love this ending
xken02 2 years ago
mgs2 is muchmore voilence than mgs4
NaksitAsoo808 2 years ago 2
hafe u tought how propethus was this game?
the patriots as the iluminatti
the tanker incident made to build arsenal gear and arsenal gear entering manhattn, the same thing that happend with wtc and the things to happen after that like bigger alert , microchipping(nanomachines in all series)...
cant belive it!
PekaSnake 2 years ago 2
Olga's kid is Sunny, and its a she, not a he. Apparently there was a mistranslation.
AwkwardTurtlev2 2 years ago
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r.i.p raiden you will be missed in msg 4
noestoyfacil 2 years ago
thanks for ruining it for people who havent played part 4
tehshnoops 2 years ago
he doesent die lol
noestoyfacil 2 years ago
I love Raiden!!! he is so cute ^^
mgsbabe 3 years ago 7
So true but still brave.Probably the most coz he had the worst start.
LittleJohnJack 3 years ago 3
I love this ending <333
BlackvZ23 3 years ago 3
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this is almost like kingdom hearts with kairi and sora
funnykidyyz 3 years ago
Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot
CultureShockwave 3 years ago
Forgive the hyperactive thirteen year old below you, he doesn't know any better. However, this is NOTHING like the Kingdom Hearts ending. And beleive me, I fucking loved the game and watched the ending, Snake and Raiden are nothing like Riku or Sora or Kairi.
Momentum139 2 years ago 3
there is an xbox version, but its substance, not sons of liberty, and substance was the same game, just 2 years later with more features. i never bought substance, only sons of liberty
legendkillersolidus 3 years ago
I beat this game with my sister when I was 9. I had nightmares for like a month lmao. I did most of the playing.
karil451 3 years ago
metal gear solid 2 is a fun and challenging game.
rzsimpson 3 years ago 2
Cops: OMG what happened here?! It seemes as if there was a sword fight...we have to find the other person. *Walks into Raiden*
....
Oh excuse me.*Walks away*"
Noone even like notices he's there...lolz.
jakisjackie123 3 years ago 12
i like the song
zachice 3 years ago 4
lol everybody is just looking at him like wtf why is there some gay blonde guy with a sword and relly tight underarmor on.
sillyhatday 3 years ago
lmao.
jakisjackie123 3 years ago
This ending is freakin hard on extreme or hard difficulty. 0_o
Solidus moves too fast.
djmixmac 4 years ago 6
That's not Big Boss. It's Solidus.
And yes there is an Xbox version.
Sekushii01 4 years ago 6
ad seing big boss die like that fighting for what he believd in one of the most saddest endings
DarkShadow302 4 years ago
refering to him as the big boss just destroyed any potential meaning in that comment...
jakisjackie123 3 years ago
i have to get this game. i heard they this game for the xbox?
93grandamgt 4 years ago
Love the ending.
DragonFlameSword 4 years ago
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ur kinda missing 42 minutes .. it ended after the rays got beaten .... and wheres the part they kill destiny and olga ??? the part where solidus snake kills the last of mgs rays ??when the shooter explains that it was just a training to make u belive in all that bullsh!t ?? when do they crash with the mgs boat ?? ur missing alot .. i wont even continue :D :D
lrdweegal 4 years ago
Yeah... all of which you just stated isn't even part of the ending.
Adidaas 4 years ago 6
i car spot vamp he was surposed to of bin in the ending amungest the crowd
richspider 4 years ago
No i thinks it's from Emma her parrot,remember that part?
lgrtmb 4 years ago
Was that bird from The End?
lgrtmb 4 years ago
yeah i thought that too. maybe theres a connection
FMunro 4 years ago
love the mgs series xD
rilkas 4 years ago
this is hardly even different from the regular ending.
he just asked where liquid, not ocelot, went.
c4mpincarl 5 years ago
anyone noticed that your player name is written on the dog tag at 05:00 ?
controller72 5 years ago
yeah what ever you enter on the NODE at the begening when you play as raiden
AtomicAtari 5 years ago
yes.
c4mpincarl 5 years ago
MGS4 is staying on the PS3. And to LessthanJake14, time heals everything.
elfirrepins 5 years ago
I hope MGS4 doesn't come out on the xbox 360. Games on the 360 usually have little to no difficulty to suit there audience. Keep it on the PS3, keep the difficulty.
magiclovebeast 5 years ago
Congrats, thats the stupidest thing I've heard all week. Thank god for fanboys.
Keyshawn19carter 5 years ago
looks like the jokes on you. I like the 360 more then the PS3 but I still think it's a noob console. Until a game comes along that proves me wrong. I'm still going to stick with what I said.
magiclovebeast 5 years ago
your mom is a noob console
ImStillBlind 4 years ago
If your mum was a console she would be a Super Nintendo. Just because everyone has played with her at some point. Your dad would be a PS3 because your mum told me that hes a huge disappointment. Petty enough for you?
magiclovebeast 4 years ago
your mom is petty enough for me
ImStillBlind 4 years ago
not as petty as your dads winkle. Even your mum has a bigger one.
magiclovebeast 4 years ago
your mom is as petty as your dads winkle
ImStillBlind 4 years ago
That was poor but not as poor as your mum. Why else would she try and sell her body on the streets. If you think you mums face looks like Burt Reynolds ass post again. If you don't think so then don't post. You choose.
magiclovebeast 4 years ago
touche...
ImStillBlind 4 years ago
Obviously you've never heard of a Sony contract dumbass. Why else would Mario be exclusive to Nintendo? Or Halo exclusive to Xbox. Besides MGS4 is just the same thing as the others, there is no difference. All PS3 has for a line-up is just add-ons from the PS2 games and has NO ORIGINAL IDEAS.
LessthanJake14 5 years ago
Lessthenjake14 is morethenretarded14. Don't know why you sent a reply that has nothing to do with what I said. I never mentioned anything about EXCLUSIVE GAMES or ORIGINAL IDEAS. Please don't reply to me unless its related to what I said.
magiclovebeast 5 years ago
Metal Gear Solid 3:Snake Eater & Metal Gear Solid 3:Subsistence are both PS2 exclusives. But I've heard that Konami is pushing Hideo Kojima to put Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of the Patriots on the Xbox 360.
JSword 5 years ago
vamp is in the crowd somewhere see if you can find him, then tell me cause i'm totally clueless
scratching50 5 years ago
Yes I've heard this too. Though I can't find the guy either.
NiteOwl22 5 years ago
in response to scratching50: pause it at 05:22, its kind of blurry, but he's in between the car and the tree
HatredEternal 5 years ago
The Matrix is...all around you...
newphoenix84 5 years ago
What's the name of the song at every MGS ending? The one that sounds really patriotic and heroic?
kenjutsukendo 5 years ago
Solid Snake is the coolest dude ever.
SevenSins007 5 years ago
Where's The Flag~?~?
Bush's 9/11 Sucks!!
hong620 5 years ago 2
Lol darn ah hmm i choose halo3 lol no off meant
freedomno1 5 years ago
Is the sequel out i cnt find it for the Xbox?
freedomno1 5 years ago
get a ps2...xbox wont be gettin 3 or 4...konami said that units sold on the ms system isnt cuttin it..so its once again exclusive to the king of games,sony...lol
garyxkoji 5 years ago
This is the best game ever!!!!
4u2c 5 years ago
do you have the ending to the 1st MGS?
flores89 5 years ago
I'm pretty sure the ending to MGS 1 is already posted on youtube.
S3mperFi 5 years ago
i cant find it..ive been looking for like ever! do you have link?
flores89 5 years ago
@flores89 the 1st ending is just where snake and hal become friends and snake is less of a self-concern jackass
AJTyler16 9 months ago
i love this game, and the ending.
Roxas24 5 years ago
Yah! this is the best game ever!!!! And my brother said I looked like Emma Emerich...lol
amayasama3 5 years ago