It's fucking true. Britain is full of pakistanis, polish, romainian, african, czechs and so on... We are becomming a minority in our own country! we've built a great nation and all these refugees are stealing our jobs and causing riots FUCK OFF HOME!
She's tic 'ing a lot; enough to make me wonder if she has Tourettes or something. Look how she keeps pulling her lip down over her teeth; that's a tic.
She has a point, in that immigration is a major problem in the UK, but most of those who immigrate here actually DO work. Get shot of the British and Immigrant wasters who don't wanna work, and fill Britain with people who want to earn a living no matter what race they are!
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." ~Martin Luther King, Jr. So glad that girl spoke up. Shame on those who stood there in silence.
@memoriesremain2010 the rest of the tram were all the people she was flaming about. I think the other woman was the only other white woman there. Very British thing to do though, just sit there and ignore the crazy bitch. Shows they were all more British than her! ha!
@vanawillemeil I agree, but the woman in the corner texting on her cell phone? She just stood there :/ People should stand against dumb fucks like this drunk woman and put her in her place. But I do agree that they had some level of class ignoring her.
She chose the right time of day,the right tram area/line to speak her mind...I hope she feels the urge to do the same again for example at real peak time when there are some ignorant ethnic youths on board. but thatll be a fine chance...(Im mixed race by way).
Totally shocking! She either has a mental health problem or she's on drugs! Notice the way she licks her lips/bites down on her lips after each sentence?
Seriously? Years of building up equal rights in the world for this? I give everyone in hearing distance on that tram a pat on the back for not jumping off the rails and taking yourselves down to her level.
That women has issues, and needs to be sorted, its disgusting.
I am so ashamed to be from England right now!
There are people in other countries watching this and thinking thats what the British are like.....We are certainly not.
Whilst it is appalling to listen to, aren't we all racist? However, I am not saying any of us have a 'right' to voice our opinions in public. How ironic!
so wrong that her kid was there and she was so racist in her comments but its true the uk has been destroyed and its goverment crippled by foreigners etc being able to move and drain the benefit system so easy. you see that old boy get up behind her i would av cracked him in jaw, theu shoulf have just ignored her for kids sake.
that was directed at you people having political debates. I don't think that there is too much to debate; she is a moronic douche bag, a racist, and a terrible mother. So err... shut the fuck up because noone cares about your petty shit? Its boring, and frankly, old.
that is disgusting. This actually makes me so ashamed to be British. I'm probably the least discriminative person some people will meet. I am a white, British guy but would never dream of seeing anybody else as less worthy to be in this country.
You have to laugh at this woman I you can tell that this woman surley does not know her own history , britian is a mixture of french ,anglo saxon , vikings, their is no true person who iis british in this country,you have been conquered so much no one knows who is truly or not , learn you histrory woman and then you can be able to hold a decent good debate about the effects of how britian has delinced , since you decided to let in your european cousins, enough said , examine what you say .
I am not condoning what the lady is saying, but has anyone thought she just might be ill. There are a lot of people out there who need help, she just might be one.
Um... people like her are the reason why are country is fucking up! Half the people are so far up their fucking arses, WHAT THE FUCK! Im guessing she's not exactly a great parent either, ruining her child's cos she's cocked up her own. She probably doesnt even have a GCSE above a C yet she thinks she's a fucking genius. Oh wow, mighty fucking fine cv she has: i cant spell but i can take crack up my ass... tbh she's just jelous - people from other races are so much god damn smarter than her!
yes she is wrong but also is that black womans response that 'you dont want the work'
its racism on both [parts OF COURSE MORE ON HERS but the root of the cause is the fact that many british peoiple feel like that...i for one dont, however you can see why low income families would turn like that, and the train was very ethnic...more ethnic kids in london than white///just saying.
What a foul excuse for a human, it's people like her who cause the problems in society/Britain that she likes to blame on 'ethnic minorities'. The sort who moans that all the jobs get taken by ethnic minorities but has no desire to actually get one herself.
In my view her behaviour would constitue a racially aggrivated breach of the peace bordering , perhaps a rascially aggrivated assault ! ( well at least in Scotland ) !Perhaps rascism is acceptable in England !
@xychr0 you are absolutely disgusting to think like that. there are coloured people who have been conceived, born and raised in Britain, they have every single last right to be in this country and in no way do they deserve to be verbally abused and spoken to in that way. those people on that tram are ten times the person that she ever will be. how DARE you generalise that VILE woman and her VILE opinions to an entire country. we're not all c*nts like you and her. oh. and i'm white. SHUTTHEHELLUP
@xychr0 mate, your comment has been removed due to so many people disliking it. show you how many people agree with you? and you said that 'everyone THINKS the same thing' errrrm, pretty sure my thoughts have nothing to do with my 'political freedom'. get off your high horse; thinking you're better educated in these matters than anyone else. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about due to you making absurd accusations such as your first comment.
Can the law do anything...? It's one person speaking their mind, as disgusting, horrible, immoral as it is, everyone has the right to speak their mind. It's what Britain is all about and why we can live in a multicultural society.
i dont agree with the lady at all , but she has a point about this country, my country is gettin over runned by outsiders, you dont see us going to africa or india n setting up stores in their towns.
@rollerbladinginc You forget that India and a lot of african countries were violently explored by the British Empire for years. Poverty and immigration are the natural consequences of that.
regardless of kids being there having to hear the swearing--- but the truth hurts her words are true --this country is fucked through political correctness gone barmy men and women have died so she can voice her opinion long may this continue i for one support her view of the sate of our country its ony her lack of using the correct grammer through the lack of education people take offence this is not her fault blame the government immigation needs to stop now your identity has been eroded away
@bowtrauma are you dumb? No, she can't vboice her opinion like that. Of course, she can have an opinion. and she can voice it. but youdon't have to be an ignorant racist prick. she says 'go back to where you come from' but I bet she couldn't even point out where South Africa is on a map. And, just because someone is black doesn't mean they aren't British. What century are we in?!?
This shows that Racism, is alive and kicking in Britain today, as it's always have been,there are a lot of racist people out there like this women in Britain but the difference is this woman was brave enough to share her ignorant views in public, so many Racist cowards hide behind the computer screen. e.g on the forums, youtube & some on twitter, where they are afraid to be seen but not heard
how has no one noticed shes blaitently off her face?? just shows the amount of ignorence we have in our country u can be any race and be a british citezen i dnt no how no one pointed that out? if it wasnt for that child in her arms she wudda got a box.. no doubt, children learn from thier parents i feel sorry for that little boy another racist in the makeing ..great.. i love london and i love that its a multi cultural country i wish i was there to tell her bout her stink self
Notice the two people near the other white girl that starts shouting texting on their phone prob on facebook going "Some serious shit is going down on the tram",
this video makes me kinda ashamed to be british if that's what i have representing me to people.
what a disgrace to the British name that is. It gives use a bad name. For all you people watching, this isnt how the whole of England feel.. Shes an idiot
The only things that make me angry are governments using weapons to kill innocent people and corporations who destroy the environment and lives....this is distraction and used to sedate...dum dums love the easy rage though.
God I'm British and im actually ashamed of living here rather live in America alot better country then shitty Brittan you can tell she's fucked out her face why should that kid be apart of her family I'm done.
@eliseee1992 Why would you be ashamed to be British because of an ignorant, racist loser? Don't be. We're not all as disgusting and moronic as she is here, and clearly you're not; racism exists in all countries. I'm pleased that so many people from the UK actually disagree with those disgusting views and that we have laws that have allowed her to be arrested for behaving that way. You're right though - Poor kid.
Such a depressing video and really feel for the kid. Thankfully people with these views are a minority in the UK and lets hope it stays that way. Also hope this video is with the authorities now and that they catch up with her.
What an awful person! I feel bad for that little boy....
EpicWinningFaceGirl 3 weeks ago
The next time see a comment about "racist americans" and "enlightened europeans", I'm going to post this video...
When will people realize...there are stupid and bigoted people all over, and of every race, creed, color and nationality.
englanddg 1 month ago 2
i wish to meet her push her on the floor and stamp on her face....
buu968 2 months ago
Vile human being. She deserves to be murdered.
bloogunproductions 2 months ago
wow, this is disgusting
ameliatamzine 2 months ago
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this is so messed up...... ;(
MonsterVSAnimal2 2 months ago
Stupid fucking cunt. Glad she's where she belongs, in fucking jail. Bastard.
LeaveMyBody 2 months ago
are you john terry in disguise? are you john terry in disguise?! disgusting
wassup2011able 2 months ago
@wassup2011able ahaha! good one lol
memoriesremain2010 2 months ago
She makes me ashamed to be English.
KitschDolly 2 months ago 6
That little boy is going to grow up to be a criminal.
GMCtrooperlol 2 months ago 3
im white/english but i wud of dragged her by the hair and smashed her little face in son there or not :L
RandomVids527 2 months ago
Shocking init she had no right to start mornin off like that !!
SexypantsXcocoXLee 2 months ago
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I feel sorry for her little boy.
ShePeach146 2 months ago
nearly 2million views from the original + this one
Nuuccii92 3 months ago
O_O if my comment like 2 minutes ago posted i with draw it it's nearly 1.4MILLION O_O!!!
Nuuccii92 3 months ago
counting the Original as well near 131k views in 2-3days!! JEEZUS!!!
Nuuccii92 3 months ago
Probably not the best way to highlight the huge immigration problem we have in the UK.
Philio25 3 months ago
I lolled so hard when she said "... Go back to Sib... Nigafrica." Total idiot right here.
Also, small point.... Britain isn't a country.
"Are you British!?"
"Yes I Ham!"
NOXDAGREAT 3 months ago
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jokerface0x 3 months ago
oh my gosh, that poor child :'( this should be reported as child abuse to the police!
cvosters09 3 months ago
It's fucking true. Britain is full of pakistanis, polish, romainian, african, czechs and so on... We are becomming a minority in our own country! we've built a great nation and all these refugees are stealing our jobs and causing riots FUCK OFF HOME!
dazhibernian 3 months ago
painful, painful viewing...
brentilda25 3 months ago
She's tic 'ing a lot; enough to make me wonder if she has Tourettes or something. Look how she keeps pulling her lip down over her teeth; that's a tic.
Despicable comments either way.
DefiantScribbler 3 months ago
The people who stood up to her are amazing. She doesn't deserve to live in England, and I feel so bad for her son.
ahintofelation 3 months ago
I can see two sides of the coin.
She has a point, in that immigration is a major problem in the UK, but most of those who immigrate here actually DO work. Get shot of the British and Immigrant wasters who don't wanna work, and fill Britain with people who want to earn a living no matter what race they are!
LauraSHK9 3 months ago 2
@LauraSHK9 Exactly!
LeaveMyBody 2 months ago
What a fucking ragged cunt. I hope she enjoys her jail cell, hopefully she gets a black person as her cell partner.
Xxgagalooo 3 months ago
Makes me ashamed to say I'm British.
JakabAsh 3 months ago 2
What a disgusting woman.
catherinel2808 3 months ago
@steosphere what do you think of this bitch?
SteevoIAmGhost 3 months ago
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what a fucking moron!
royvoortreker 3 months ago
This is considered a hate crime in the US. is it the same in the UK?
OniSushi 3 months ago
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ChantieMars 3 months ago
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." ~Martin Luther King, Jr. So glad that girl spoke up. Shame on those who stood there in silence.
memoriesremain2010 3 months ago
@memoriesremain2010 the rest of the tram were all the people she was flaming about. I think the other woman was the only other white woman there. Very British thing to do though, just sit there and ignore the crazy bitch. Shows they were all more British than her! ha!
vanawillemeil 3 months ago
@vanawillemeil I agree, but the woman in the corner texting on her cell phone? She just stood there :/ People should stand against dumb fucks like this drunk woman and put her in her place. But I do agree that they had some level of class ignoring her.
memoriesremain2010 3 months ago
Oh my gosh.. I am shocked.. That woman is INSANE & I feel so bad for that little boy. I'm surprised she didn't get punched in the face.
abbyhoneywaffles 3 months ago
I am bloody appalled at that!.. That is atrocious language for one but two around kids and being that disrespectful!
She should have her kid taken off her, poor child..
She is a serious stain on the fabric of society!
CaitlinDuck 3 months ago
1:09 Soo close!
zizo47 3 months ago
She is an example of the scum of the earth. Poor boy, I feel so sorry for him.
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I just feel sorry for her kid.
zizo47 3 months ago
shame on the bitch. what's that kid going to grow up like.
FISHYKNICKERSHRIMP 3 months ago
She is the problem, not the people she is shouting at, makes me feel sick to think that people can still be so ignorant in the age we live in.
33hamster33 3 months ago 2
She chose the right time of day,the right tram area/line to speak her mind...I hope she feels the urge to do the same again for example at real peak time when there are some ignorant ethnic youths on board. but thatll be a fine chance...(Im mixed race by way).
DezEagles 3 months ago
shes drugged check her lips hahah
jesenican306 3 months ago
ew
NyaanKun 3 months ago
Totally shocking! She either has a mental health problem or she's on drugs! Notice the way she licks her lips/bites down on her lips after each sentence?
Hayls76 3 months ago 3
Seriously? Years of building up equal rights in the world for this? I give everyone in hearing distance on that tram a pat on the back for not jumping off the rails and taking yourselves down to her level.
That women has issues, and needs to be sorted, its disgusting.
I am so ashamed to be from England right now!
There are people in other countries watching this and thinking thats what the British are like.....We are certainly not.
rosemarysbaby1000 3 months ago
Whilst it is appalling to listen to, aren't we all racist? However, I am not saying any of us have a 'right' to voice our opinions in public. How ironic!
oddorwhat 3 months ago
so wrong that her kid was there and she was so racist in her comments but its true the uk has been destroyed and its goverment crippled by foreigners etc being able to move and drain the benefit system so easy. you see that old boy get up behind her i would av cracked him in jaw, theu shoulf have just ignored her for kids sake.
TheDerrenBrown 3 months ago 2
Do 1
TheMuhammad08 3 months ago
British woman on London transport? Fuck me, that's unusual.
ZiggaZaggaOAFC 3 months ago
Is it wrong that I would have loved to be in that tram ? For entertainment purposes only xD
JoshJamesGallacher 3 months ago
what a cunt
junohoare 3 months ago
that was directed at you people having political debates. I don't think that there is too much to debate; she is a moronic douche bag, a racist, and a terrible mother. So err... shut the fuck up because noone cares about your petty shit? Its boring, and frankly, old.
JoshEckertEmpire 3 months ago
that is disgusting. This actually makes me so ashamed to be British. I'm probably the least discriminative person some people will meet. I am a white, British guy but would never dream of seeing anybody else as less worthy to be in this country.
AdamJMonster 3 months ago 2
love that guys reaction at 1:08
thebuddmeister 3 months ago
we aren't english we are scouse
philyburkhill1 3 months ago
Oh dear god...
JoshEckertEmpire 3 months ago
You have to laugh at this woman I you can tell that this woman surley does not know her own history , britian is a mixture of french ,anglo saxon , vikings, their is no true person who iis british in this country,you have been conquered so much no one knows who is truly or not , learn you histrory woman and then you can be able to hold a decent good debate about the effects of how britian has delinced , since you decided to let in your european cousins, enough said , examine what you say .
benumist 3 months ago 2
I am not condoning what the lady is saying, but has anyone thought she just might be ill. There are a lot of people out there who need help, she just might be one.
valkerie617 3 months ago
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Um... people like her are the reason why are country is fucking up! Half the people are so far up their fucking arses, WHAT THE FUCK! Im guessing she's not exactly a great parent either, ruining her child's cos she's cocked up her own. She probably doesnt even have a GCSE above a C yet she thinks she's a fucking genius. Oh wow, mighty fucking fine cv she has: i cant spell but i can take crack up my ass... tbh she's just jelous - people from other races are so much god damn smarter than her!
muchlylike 3 months ago
She is also the problem. No doubt she lives off of benefits.
DanJM14 3 months ago
yes she is wrong but also is that black womans response that 'you dont want the work'
its racism on both [parts OF COURSE MORE ON HERS but the root of the cause is the fact that many british peoiple feel like that...i for one dont, however you can see why low income families would turn like that, and the train was very ethnic...more ethnic kids in london than white///just saying.
numba1danman 3 months ago
What a foul excuse for a human, it's people like her who cause the problems in society/Britain that she likes to blame on 'ethnic minorities'. The sort who moans that all the jobs get taken by ethnic minorities but has no desire to actually get one herself.
ShiningRanger 3 months ago
stupid cunt
josh64128 3 months ago
In my view her behaviour would constitue a racially aggrivated breach of the peace bordering , perhaps a rascially aggrivated assault ! ( well at least in Scotland ) !Perhaps rascism is acceptable in England !
thepatyarun 3 months ago
I was waiting for the black dude to punch her.
IRule2k11 3 months ago
government should deport her..... simple as that... to africa, theyd sort her out there.
MAKKZ720 3 months ago 25
shes needs a geography lesson, i'm quite sure "sar-fucking-nene-na-gra" isn't even a country
barneybrooker 3 months ago 4
You really wonder how her child is going to turn out.
mimsy99 3 months ago
Everyone in Britain feels the same as her, but she's the only one with the balls to say it.
xychr0 3 months ago
@xychr0 That's not true. I don't feel that anyone who isn't British shouldn't be in our country. Don't be so quick to group people.
SeCyPiE 3 months ago
@xychr0 you are absolutely disgusting to think like that. there are coloured people who have been conceived, born and raised in Britain, they have every single last right to be in this country and in no way do they deserve to be verbally abused and spoken to in that way. those people on that tram are ten times the person that she ever will be. how DARE you generalise that VILE woman and her VILE opinions to an entire country. we're not all c*nts like you and her. oh. and i'm white. SHUTTHEHELLUP
gracekittyy 3 months ago
@gracekittyy I wouldn't expect any other reply, since you don't have the political freedom to agree with my sentiment. Carry on, drone.
xychr0 3 months ago
@xychr0 Oh shut the fuck up you boring prick.
JoshEckertEmpire 3 months ago
@xychr0 mate, your comment has been removed due to so many people disliking it. show you how many people agree with you? and you said that 'everyone THINKS the same thing' errrrm, pretty sure my thoughts have nothing to do with my 'political freedom'. get off your high horse; thinking you're better educated in these matters than anyone else. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about due to you making absurd accusations such as your first comment.
gracekittyy 3 months ago
I feel bad for the kid. Disgrace she is...
TheDerekMoore 3 months ago
Can the law do anything...? It's one person speaking their mind, as disgusting, horrible, immoral as it is, everyone has the right to speak their mind. It's what Britain is all about and why we can live in a multicultural society.
Deanopug106 3 months ago
i dont agree with the lady at all , but she has a point about this country, my country is gettin over runned by outsiders, you dont see us going to africa or india n setting up stores in their towns.
rollerbladinginc 3 months ago
@rollerbladinginc You forget that India and a lot of african countries were violently explored by the British Empire for years. Poverty and immigration are the natural consequences of that.
hmartinellis 3 months ago
regardless of kids being there having to hear the swearing--- but the truth hurts her words are true --this country is fucked through political correctness gone barmy men and women have died so she can voice her opinion long may this continue i for one support her view of the sate of our country its ony her lack of using the correct grammer through the lack of education people take offence this is not her fault blame the government immigation needs to stop now your identity has been eroded away
bowtrauma 3 months ago 3
@bowtrauma are you dumb? No, she can't vboice her opinion like that. Of course, she can have an opinion. and she can voice it. but youdon't have to be an ignorant racist prick. she says 'go back to where you come from' but I bet she couldn't even point out where South Africa is on a map. And, just because someone is black doesn't mean they aren't British. What century are we in?!?
mimsy99 3 months ago
I feel sorry for the kid.
KashMan96 3 months ago
This shows that Racism, is alive and kicking in Britain today, as it's always have been,there are a lot of racist people out there like this women in Britain but the difference is this woman was brave enough to share her ignorant views in public, so many Racist cowards hide behind the computer screen. e.g on the forums, youtube & some on twitter, where they are afraid to be seen but not heard
StrawberryHearts21 3 months ago
It's so good that somebody managed to maintain the courage to record this because hopefully now the Law will hit down on her hard.
IfoundNemo12 3 months ago
how has no one noticed shes blaitently off her face?? just shows the amount of ignorence we have in our country u can be any race and be a british citezen i dnt no how no one pointed that out? if it wasnt for that child in her arms she wudda got a box.. no doubt, children learn from thier parents i feel sorry for that little boy another racist in the makeing ..great.. i love london and i love that its a multi cultural country i wish i was there to tell her bout her stink self
xtx8 3 months ago
What is she getting at?
laganas2008 3 months ago
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IfoundNemo12 3 months ago
Can't believe everyone just stood and watched
Mattybrennaz 3 months ago
I like it how 99% of people ignore tube weirdos and continue playing angry birds on their smartphones :)
Fluxtah 3 months ago
wat type of digracefull behaivior is this
im british wt u gonna do
omego619 3 months ago
**Ring Ring**
Woman: Hello?
Phone: Hello This Is 1901 And We'd Like Our Opinions Back Thank You.
SquirrelEvictor 3 months ago
she needs to shut up ! Acc makes me sick
ShaaNellzXX 3 months ago
Notice the two people near the other white girl that starts shouting texting on their phone prob on facebook going "Some serious shit is going down on the tram",
this video makes me kinda ashamed to be british if that's what i have representing me to people.
Nuuccii92 3 months ago
what a disgrace to the British name that is. It gives use a bad name. For all you people watching, this isnt how the whole of England feel.. Shes an idiot
Bigdavexd1234 3 months ago
Dipe-Nicwaragwara is a lovely place. Someone take that kid away from her. And I mean for good.
scotchprofessor 3 months ago 2
she's one bitch!
MultiAlthani 3 months ago
post this round so it goes viral and the bitch gets whats coming to her.
Wjh93 3 months ago
She would have been beaten up if she didn't have he kid with her...
7R3B0R9 3 months ago
Way to repost an existing video for views....
krwaring6 3 months ago
I'd like to see social services rescue that kid. He has no future with that as a mother.
IHitDrums84 3 months ago
She is such a disgrace to our country. :|
curtistbh 3 months ago
hahahahahah im black and if i was there i would have laughed in her face !!
kelvinjacobwilliams 3 months ago
The only things that make me angry are governments using weapons to kill innocent people and corporations who destroy the environment and lives....this is distraction and used to sedate...dum dums love the easy rage though.
epiksonik 3 months ago
that makes me sick!
TheLazypieman 3 months ago
Can't believe how angry this has made me, disgraceful.
tashajacobs 3 months ago
That poor kid is probably going to grow up into a bigot like her!!!
tashajacobs 3 months ago
makes me sick.
Rayychiie 3 months ago 18
What a scum, shouldn't be allowed to have a child.
tashajacobs 3 months ago 2
God I'm British and im actually ashamed of living here rather live in America alot better country then shitty Brittan you can tell she's fucked out her face why should that kid be apart of her family I'm done.
bmxuh 3 months ago
What area in london is this ?
vashleyluver 3 months ago
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1:53 Where did you come from ? A LADY !
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vashleyluver 3 months ago
This is an absolute disgrace- it makes me ashamed to be British. Poor kid, imagine having a mother like that.
eliseee1992 3 months ago 30
@eliseee1992 Why would you be ashamed to be British because of an ignorant, racist loser? Don't be. We're not all as disgusting and moronic as she is here, and clearly you're not; racism exists in all countries. I'm pleased that so many people from the UK actually disagree with those disgusting views and that we have laws that have allowed her to be arrested for behaving that way. You're right though - Poor kid.
RectoBold 3 months ago
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TheMarvinsWife 3 months ago
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'My British country!' BITCH PLEASE! if the queen had a choice shed toss you out this country in a heartbeat!
TheMarvinsWife 3 months ago
1:13 that guy in the back gets up cos he's had enough then people are trying to calm him down lol
TheMarvinsWife 3 months ago
Such a depressing video and really feel for the kid. Thankfully people with these views are a minority in the UK and lets hope it stays that way. Also hope this video is with the authorities now and that they catch up with her.
davekay1976 3 months ago
well done to that other english woman who stood up to her, :) id have twatted that bitch if i was there,
TheMarvinsWife 3 months ago
'My British country!' BITCH PLEASE! if the queen had a choice shed toss you out this country in a heartbeat!
TheMarvinsWife 3 months ago 2
OMG how ignorant....that poor kid on her lap...
autoglym31a 3 months ago
Some people make me feel ashamed to be British....
SweetLaddio 3 months ago
Retarded Brit!!!
padam85 3 months ago
How she uses the word: FUCK .
jigaapple23 3 months ago