@thestarsnatcher i don't buy it. what should i compare this album to? this is not his first work and should not be considered as it was only because it's different. plus, he made 2-3 of the best albums of the past decade, so im perfectly entitled to my high expectations.
@falang78 if you are truely confident in your nonhope, in your atheism, in your unbelief, then why haven't you killed yourself yet? If you are right, then there is no difference between you being dead and being alive. As dr. Manhattan says, structurally they're the same. As for me, I choose to have hope, faith, and love, because I value life.
@jugjugsthekoolaidman This is the typical philosophy of a religious zealot. There is no reason to be moral but for morals sake, and I can choose to be moral because I'm a good person. I don't have to because a book written thousands of years ago by 33 different people tells me too.
@nitewalker1111 i have two questions for you. 1) why would you choose to be moral? if there is no god, there is no difference between being moral and being immoral. morality is subjective. "good" is a meaningless word. 2) morality, on the other hand, is objective, where does it come from? note: every sort of "new" morality (this is based on subjectivism) can be traced back to an overarching objective theme. thus subjectivism is entirely ridiculous.
I'm always shock to see such a ferocious religious debate on Sufjan Stevens' videos and then, after a few seconds, I remember: he is a devoted Christian. It would be nice to stop making a dogma of atheism btw -stop harassing the believers! I loved this album and this electro-pop song is just bliss.
@falang78 the bible is a book with history, poetry and wisdom beyond measure. if it was simply a fabrication inspired only by men, it would not have stood the test of time and so many scholars.. At the same time it is your choice to believe in it or not - you are given freedom in having free will.
But it's message is being hijacked politically, especially in the US, and the Church is precariously becoming less separated from state. Warning - possible over-generalization ahead - religious faith is the drug of the uneducated, and the addiction rates are reaching epidemic status. But the underlying issue here is much more insidious - the uneducated populace may soon outnumber the rational and assume control of a once noble country.
@falang78 I'm sorry I can't comment on the political nature of your country, but I do love the people there. There is always hope and hope is more powerful, constructive and creative then fear. Don't get me wrong - its important to be aware of problems, but be careful not to let your fears consume you. The best thing to do is to take positive action, perhaps call a few politicians and ask them questions or show your support
This album is still throwing me a curve, but that's ok. I would rather he branch out and be happy with the music he creates that just stagnate for our sakes. However, I have to say that All Delighted People is probably my favorite cd of the year...even my 10 year old daughter loves it and asks for it all the time.
He had such beautiful skills with the banjo and acoustic instruments, mixing just right with his soft voice to achieve reveled harmonics; what is going on here? The beat is great, but it sure is a step back from the artist who made For The Widows In Paradise.
I don't really think this is a step back, its just a different direction. I think lyrically before he was focused on this great word play using rhyme. Whereas now, his lyrics speed up, and slow down, alternating with the abient rhythm. So there's a lot focused on electricity. I think you could compare it to "Digital Ash in a Digital Urn" by Bright Eyes. The feel was still there, but with electric music, rather than tradition music.
Be careful, in any circumstance, no matter what you believe--a dogmatic faith in either a religious precept or a scientific model can be dangerous! You deny your own growth when you stop searching for deeper truth. Deepak Chopra says it well: "Surround yourself with those who seek the truth. Run from those who've found it."
One of the best bands ever in my opinion. They got to a point where they had a pretty loyal fanbase, and a pretty established sound. Then they changed that completely. And now they're an even better band as a result.
if you like close your eyes while listening to his music, it feels like your in a different place, it actually takes you away. i have yet to find any music like his, with as much depth and intensity.
@funun2 Seriously? I'm not saying he doesn't have depth and intensity, but you haven't found anyone else with those qualities? There's lots of other great music out there, bro! Black Keys, Amy WInehouse, Corinne Bailey Rae, Arcade Fire, Mayer Hawthorne, Portugal. The Man.
@funun2 I would like to tell you music, that gives you that exact same feeling... But you can only find the perfect songs, if you find them by yourself, or be made by yourself
Boycott Sufjan Stevens! His music makes everyone else sound like crap. How are the decent, hardworking musicians like Justin Bieber supposed to compete when they're sharing the market with Sufjan?
Where do you think the majority of western musical framework came from?
Religion, that's where. Religious song was the 'recording medium' of the time. Take it or leave it. If people want to believe in santa clause, let them. What bearing does it have on you? If your were truly devoid of dogma, you would hardly be so defensive of other peoples belief systems. Your defensive diatribe makes you seem unsure. Carry on ladies :D
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Thus, does a book written back then have any insight today? Why should the misinformed of ancient times have any relevance on us today? They were so devoid of common knowledge back then (and sense) that the whole concept of faith is a disservice to humanity. It has actually limited us....for centuries. And still does today.
Wake up good man and drop the christian crutch. So illogical. So misguided.
Sufjan - Someone as intelligent as yourself should not subscribe to this Christian nonsense you often allude to lyrically. Would you seek help for an ear infection from a medical document that was written 2000 years ago? Would it have divine insight? It would probably suggest a concoction of desert sand and fermented apple resin as a remedy for ear aches.
@falang78 No offense, but as far as rebuttals against Christianity go, this has to be the dumbest one. If you're going to be an atheist, at least be an intelligent, respectful one, not an ignorant, pretentious one.
I disagree. Even if you are not a Christian, certainly you must concede that there is text within the Bible that still has relevance. Most atheists would agree that there is some truth and wisdom within the BIble, even if they believe it's mixed in with a lot of nonsense, too.
By your logic, we should discard all of Archimedes' mathematical discoveries, because it is 2000 year old wisdom and should have no bearing or relevance to the modern day.
I missed an oppurtunity here - Archimedes' discoveries were based on science and proof. They were not fables. They were principles that were clearly defined, tested, repeated and universally accepted as reality. The bible is not. It is a book. It sold well. It held back progress and human growth for nearly two millenia. It is fracturing and diluting the last great empire as we speak. It is a vestigial curse.
@falang78 It was because of ancient documents like the bible that helped humanity up from savagery. Its an important part of our history. Your one of those people who look at the cover and make outlandish statements, read it first. Although my belief in god has lessened, it doesnt mean I've lost respect in what is written in that book. Some of its messages have no doubt turned the hardest individual into a caring person.
Human nature and the capacity for empathy was long invented before some ancient text, which of course was diluted by multiple translations and re-editeding for millenia. Were we not thriving before the bible? Myth and fable did not create social ethics and societal growth. Evolution and natural selection did. Our ancestors reproduced because their inherited ethical and empathetic behaviour was appealing to potential mates. And communities are built on the backs of such people. And thrive.
@falang78 To sum it up. There was really never anything wrong with the Bible, a humans greed sustained. Bible or not, we thrived because we believed in something non-existant. Either it'd be agriculture or a way of life, that very unknown thing helped us survive. The bible was just another medium that helped us realize such things. Just because something is of "myth or "fable" does not mean that there is no some moral or lesson to it. Your reading too deep into things.
It was a medium long used for fear and obedience. I realize it's sad for some to grasp the bible's absolute irrelevance in the modern age. But, time will tell. Our ancestors will marvel at our rapid progression, attained in spite of the bible's impediment to the self actualization of the human endeavor.
Alas, you can sadly spew your rhetoric until you're blue in the face. But the educated know and endorse the current death of organized religion. Logic and the passion for verified truths is prevailing and always will. I take solace in the notion that my descendents will be free - some day very soon. And, I I'll never relent fighting for such a worthy cause.
Correction - Or descendents will marvel at our technological achievements, achieved and spread, not through religious goals but for the common good. For the community. For humanity
Nah, the bible was a tool used to distort and subject society. Self-proclaimed clerics did what some humans are built to do - used any means for deception and accumulation of wealth. It was a method for subjugating and creating class based hierarchies (castes). It introduced and permeated cronyism.
@falang78 and then we all fucking die. it just gets too depressing thinking about things like this, granted it's interesting but it can totally consume your life. maybe it's just me.
Simply put, it was a social mechanism that if manipulated correctly, ensured the possessors to control the peasants. It also ensured their offspring's survival and path to the pinnacle of sociel order - hegemony. It was genius. Still is, for the unenlightened regions and their leaders, anyway.
I know I'm going to get totally flamed/bashed/called a troll for saying this, but I find this entire album extremely dull and boring. All of the songs feel like they are too long for how slowly paced they are, with there being little else to the songs other than good lyrics.
It's cool if you're really digging this new stuff, but some people just don't like it. It doesn't mean they're ignorant or are not ready for it yet. It just means...wait for it...they don't like it. Personally, I think it's alright, could've been better.
its useless to compare the xx and sufjan, they're completely different. in this album, sufjan is just experimenting with a new style. the synth and sampler is the XX's staple. This is a completely new territory to Sufjan, and i don't think he's really trying to reinvent himself. Muscians are allowed to try different things, and this is his attempt.
@phoenixmakesmehard you are so wrong. This isn't really a change more than it is a return to his original style. Go back and listen to Enjoy Your Rabbit and A Sun Came. His roots are electronic and you can tell that this is the album he's been wanting to make for a while.
What is this fucking shit? Where's my Sufjan?? :/
acousticmaddie11 1 week ago
i smell hipsters
WillingToPooNvm 1 week ago
Tripped Me Out ThroughOut The Whole Song. Very Unique I Can Say , I Dig This.
DudeeItsJaaackiee 2 weeks ago
this song could be easily the soundtrack of my last relationship
purpleregi 1 month ago
Im probably just that douche that only likes sufjan's folky stuff, but this is just okay... to me
levimcduffie 2 months ago 6
I can't stop listening to this.
AcharisMusic 2 months ago
the album is ok, but seven swans and illinoise are way better, and, ironically, much braver than this bland electronic sound.
Patafisique 2 months ago 4
@Patafisique it's apples and oranges. people comparing adz with the rest of his albums drive me to madness.
thestarsnatcher 3 weeks ago
@thestarsnatcher i don't buy it. what should i compare this album to? this is not his first work and should not be considered as it was only because it's different. plus, he made 2-3 of the best albums of the past decade, so im perfectly entitled to my high expectations.
Patafisique 3 weeks ago
Perfect song to describe my lost love. Found myself singing these phrases over Klinik
travisg130 3 months ago
This song reminds me a day when the clouds are gray and the trees are black and leafless, and crows fly over your head. so pretty
snail632 3 months ago in playlist Coolio Songs 2! 2
this really is a top album...a lot better than the earlier folk albums IMHO... i just bought the vinyl
ubiquitouswigger 3 months ago
I hated this but now I love it
matthewjtucker93 3 months ago
I freakin LOVE Sujan..........not diggin this song at all though. :(
CSClark272 4 months ago
@CSClark272 Give it time ;]
I was all obsessed over his previous "folk/rock" albums but as soon as this newer stuff melds in, it's uncontrollably beautiful.
retrohippie 3 months ago
Was anyone else as shocked at how much better this album was than his previous works? Completely threw me for a loop. Best album of 2010.
ppec314 4 months ago
@ppec314 yes, true. his earlier albums sound more experimental rather than commercial
ionutreturns 4 months ago
@ionutreturns This doesn't sound experimental?
TMaagaard 2 months ago
@TMaagaard listen to Seven Swans and you may understand
Fixdal 2 months ago
@falang78 if you are truely confident in your nonhope, in your atheism, in your unbelief, then why haven't you killed yourself yet? If you are right, then there is no difference between you being dead and being alive. As dr. Manhattan says, structurally they're the same. As for me, I choose to have hope, faith, and love, because I value life.
jugjugsthekoolaidman 5 months ago
@jugjugsthekoolaidman This is the typical philosophy of a religious zealot. There is no reason to be moral but for morals sake, and I can choose to be moral because I'm a good person. I don't have to because a book written thousands of years ago by 33 different people tells me too.
nitewalker1111 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Sufjan Stevens
@nitewalker1111 i have two questions for you. 1) why would you choose to be moral? if there is no god, there is no difference between being moral and being immoral. morality is subjective. "good" is a meaningless word. 2) morality, on the other hand, is objective, where does it come from? note: every sort of "new" morality (this is based on subjectivism) can be traced back to an overarching objective theme. thus subjectivism is entirely ridiculous.
jugjugsthekoolaidman 4 months ago
I deserve more
For at least I deserve the respect of a kiss goodbye
lisaishere0919 5 months ago 6
@kelsienoodle check out butterfly caught
Izaak247 5 months ago
No comment to how good this is
Izaak247 5 months ago
Anyone suggest similar music to me please?
kelsienoodle 5 months ago 2
@kelsienoodle I've been looking for music like this since it came out, and there's nothing! Rufus wainwright is the closest thing I've found.
WeeklyComedian 4 months ago
So amazing. So so so amazing.
AREM16137 5 months ago
the song for me
fukyou521 6 months ago
"James Vincent Mcmorrow- If i had a boat" i just did you all a favor
bloodroyal101 6 months ago
so much radiohead in here.
in a good way.
henriqueolis 6 months ago 2
i'm sorry but how can mumford and sons be up there bombay bicycle club is way more talented than mumford and sons
Indymusicisthe11 6 months ago
Sufjan's music is so visually-strong.
gigglesmansonn 6 months ago 3
Sufjan Stevens
Bon Iver
Lykke Li
Mumford & Sons
Fleet Foxes
they speak to me.
TheEmerald92 6 months ago 88
@TheEmerald92 ADD to that Elbow, Brian Eno, PJ Harvey, Imogen Heap and Deep Forest (who will speak to you in lots of languages!)
spectrum99122 6 months ago
@TheEmerald92 Mumford & Sons? i can not stand them they're so forged.
TReoS96 1 month ago 9
@TheEmerald92 please dont mention bon iver,fleet foxes, and sufjan in the same sentence as the unbearable joke that are mumfor and sons :L
kramerspadowskiki 1 month ago 3
@TheEmerald92
Hipsters
They speak too much
LularLollelSquiller 1 week ago
What a beautiful song! I am really upset I just found out you were playing in Brooklyn tonight and I missed it. Keep making lovely music (^_^)
naysgrace 7 months ago
This song is the only legitimate answer to "Why'd the chicken cross the road?" that I've ever heard.
oahmad93 7 months ago 37
@oahmad93 no this is the answer to all the questionings of how jesus walked on water... He walked and believed
MrAntwizzle 4 months ago
"I at least deserve the respect of a kiss good bye... "
More ture words have not been spoken...
EmanuelWazar 7 months ago 2
I'm always shock to see such a ferocious religious debate on Sufjan Stevens' videos and then, after a few seconds, I remember: he is a devoted Christian. It would be nice to stop making a dogma of atheism btw -stop harassing the believers! I loved this album and this electro-pop song is just bliss.
whodoesitcare 7 months ago
i luv thee
TheYellowellies 7 months ago
Ridiculously good...
powage 7 months ago
Dear god this is amazing.
gigglesmansonn 7 months ago
@falang78 the bible is a book with history, poetry and wisdom beyond measure. if it was simply a fabrication inspired only by men, it would not have stood the test of time and so many scholars.. At the same time it is your choice to believe in it or not - you are given freedom in having free will.
drifta303 8 months ago
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But it's message is being hijacked politically, especially in the US, and the Church is precariously becoming less separated from state. Warning - possible over-generalization ahead - religious faith is the drug of the uneducated, and the addiction rates are reaching epidemic status. But the underlying issue here is much more insidious - the uneducated populace may soon outnumber the rational and assume control of a once noble country.
falang78 8 months ago 2
@falang78 I'm sorry I can't comment on the political nature of your country, but I do love the people there. There is always hope and hope is more powerful, constructive and creative then fear. Don't get me wrong - its important to be aware of problems, but be careful not to let your fears consume you. The best thing to do is to take positive action, perhaps call a few politicians and ask them questions or show your support
drifta303 8 months ago
@drifta303 its only stood the test of time because idiots such as yourself deny all rational evidence. We werent 'given' free will its ours by nature
DontCryPvP 8 months ago
Also Iliada and Odyssey from Homer were books with history, poetry and wisdom, and stood the test of time...
So, let's built a church for Homer!!! Yeah, i 'm not a christian anymore, i 'm a homerian!!! And the first saint will be... OMG...Homer Simpson!!!
NesakAEL 7 months ago
is this tween?
therealmechloir 8 months ago
I wish the rest of the album was more like this song.
samiamscogin 8 months ago
@samiamscogin or really just tons of vesuvius remixes
djworldrenowned 8 months ago
@samiamscogin or really just tons of vesuvius remixes
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@samiamscogin or really just tons of vesuvius remixes
djworldrenowned 8 months ago
this track NEEDS to be louder.
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I want to make out with this song.
ctrlplusz 9 months ago
Coldplay meets Bjork but somehow GOOD?!?
jimmuse59 9 months ago
@jimmuse59 Coldplay.... GTFO!
ItsMiTTen 8 months ago in playlist Awesome music
This album is still throwing me a curve, but that's ok. I would rather he branch out and be happy with the music he creates that just stagnate for our sakes. However, I have to say that All Delighted People is probably my favorite cd of the year...even my 10 year old daughter loves it and asks for it all the time.
kenmeyerjr 9 months ago
This is pretty fucking good - lyrics are something else...
andrewtgrimm 9 months ago
He had such beautiful skills with the banjo and acoustic instruments, mixing just right with his soft voice to achieve reveled harmonics; what is going on here? The beat is great, but it sure is a step back from the artist who made For The Widows In Paradise.
myloversdream 9 months ago
I can't friggin wait till next saturday! I finally get to see him! CAN'T WAIT!
MaNiaCx92 9 months ago
@BlackRoseRocket, BBC 6Music mate.
MrMrsmeerkat 9 months ago 2
My god this is gold
Rashonality 9 months ago 3
I don't really think this is a step back, its just a different direction. I think lyrically before he was focused on this great word play using rhyme. Whereas now, his lyrics speed up, and slow down, alternating with the abient rhythm. So there's a lot focused on electricity. I think you could compare it to "Digital Ash in a Digital Urn" by Bright Eyes. The feel was still there, but with electric music, rather than tradition music.
spen1591 9 months ago 3
I'm sorry but this is just a huge step back from Sufjan's previous albums
thabrickster 9 months ago
@thabrickster The best artists get the way they are by not listening to what you (or I) have to say.
retrohippie 8 months ago
berkum cherca ch.. berkum cherca ch.. berkum cherca ch.. loverrrrrrrrr (etc)
Claudestclaire 10 months ago
I have an orgasm in my ears every time I hear this on the radio.
BlackRoseRocket 10 months ago
@BlackRoseRocket Where do they play this on the radio??
realpinkfan 9 months ago
@realpinkfan 89.3 The Current out of Minneapolis plays Sufjan quite a bit
darghon1 9 months ago
students in a deep trance listening today in class, love love love it
pumasoccerstud 10 months ago
brilliant.
rains723 10 months ago 5
this song sends me to the heavens.
matthewjamal 10 months ago
Starts a bit like 'Man next door' by Massive Attack.
misterbamboostick 10 months ago
Awsome!!! Diggn' the cool mello-ness;-)
sarahandbabyjohn 11 months ago
<3
kimkenis1 11 months ago 3
Be careful, in any circumstance, no matter what you believe--a dogmatic faith in either a religious precept or a scientific model can be dangerous! You deny your own growth when you stop searching for deeper truth. Deepak Chopra says it well: "Surround yourself with those who seek the truth. Run from those who've found it."
ward200t 11 months ago 2
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@ward200t So you will never find home?
johnwmorton 10 months ago
@ward200t "Be careful in any circumstance, no matter what you believe"<lolirony
pooscifer 10 months ago
I just listened to lyrics this time, WHOA, powerful stuff.
shaz0077 11 months ago
wow this is so fucking good. it reminds me of kraftwerk. i love it so much,.
comedyliker12 11 months ago
Does this sound like Arthur Russell to anyone else?
jonathanwball 11 months ago
Does this remind anyone else of Radiohead?
One of the best bands ever in my opinion. They got to a point where they had a pretty loyal fanbase, and a pretty established sound. Then they changed that completely. And now they're an even better band as a result.
This album is very different, but in a good way.
MaizeRage48 11 months ago 2
prince, little red corvette.. just sayin.
fvk1 11 months ago 2
Lil B approves this beat
Kennedyinc3 1 year ago 3
I love Sufjan Stevens , my boyfriend showed me him , and I was like , whoa , and I listen to him alot :"]
Krissykarnage 1 year ago
His music is so good it makes me want to cry...
IN SUCH A GOOD WAY
EsthersPuppet 1 year ago
FUCKING AMAZING
EsthersPuppet 1 year ago
amazing
ursulade 1 year ago
...:O
Don't even know how I got here but am damn glad I did. <3
xMikanNamix 1 year ago 3
Woi don't listen to this after a breakup.. Makes me want to swim out into the ocean.
CaptBFart 1 year ago 3
Woah!
42guide42 1 year ago
I just cant figure whats with sufjan's album... there's something in his music that makes me stick on his songs and i gotta admit, i kinda like it
tlx321 1 year ago
I mean, it IS a good album, no doubt.
Just it's not the Sufjan I fell hopefully fell in love with.
I did buy this album, but it will never have the place in my heart that Illinois did.
C0smicMonkey 1 year ago 5
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truthtalker49 1 year ago
@truthtalker49 Ummmmm are you f*cking high?? Or just plain ignorant..... Either way, you don't know what you are talking about.
1marksy1 1 year ago
one of the highest rated comments is by a guy who doesnt even know the name of the cd. i hate everyone
thebatman92493 1 year ago 112
@thebatman92493 yeah it's bradford cox right? of deerhunter?
ant1ph0n 8 months ago
@thebatman92493
you don't need to know the name of a CD to listen to the shit on youtube.
Suck my dick.
d33pS3Ad1v3r 8 months ago
@thebatman92493 Because the name of the cd is what makes you appreciate the beauty of this music...
lennonjohn88 7 months ago
@thebatman92493 so fockin' what? start living!
segbastian 6 months ago
I'm wondering if I listen to this song enough if it'll eventually just play on a permanent loop in my head. I hope so.
jessauer76 1 year ago 2
This IS a really good album, no doubt. It's just... it's not the Sufjan I fell in love with.
C0smicMonkey 1 year ago 3
@C0smicMonkey
Real artists evolve. I guess it's up to you whether you'll follow them in their new directions.
I gotchya though, it's a different sound. Sufjan's climbed down from the fence and put the banjo away.
For me... this is the best music he's ever created.
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TheSpinningBrain 1 year ago
if you like close your eyes while listening to his music, it feels like your in a different place, it actually takes you away. i have yet to find any music like his, with as much depth and intensity.
funun2 1 year ago 23
@funun2 Seriously? I'm not saying he doesn't have depth and intensity, but you haven't found anyone else with those qualities? There's lots of other great music out there, bro! Black Keys, Amy WInehouse, Corinne Bailey Rae, Arcade Fire, Mayer Hawthorne, Portugal. The Man.
ace456 7 months ago
@funun2 i find william fitzsimmons music does that too.
lastmondaypast1 7 months ago
@lastmondaypast1 dont forget bon iver.
nbigcat0419 6 months ago
@funun2 I would like to tell you music, that gives you that exact same feeling... But you can only find the perfect songs, if you find them by yourself, or be made by yourself
entranadrag 6 months ago
@funun2 Listen to 'If you're not the one' by Bedingfield or 'Don't leave home' by Dido...
IbteeDApunisher 5 months ago
such a Great song! It reminds me of "Heirloom" by Brandon Snipes
brookhill 1 year ago
@brookhill
or Heirloom by Sufjan off of his last EP? I agree though, one of his best, after Chicago.
falang78 1 year ago
epic
blsp666 1 year ago
Euphoric. This really helps me make it though the day, I'm a caged animal and this puts me on a different level of being.
iasfdglai 1 year ago
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Boycott Sufjan Stevens! His music makes everyone else sound like crap. How are the decent, hardworking musicians like Justin Bieber supposed to compete when they're sharing the market with Sufjan?
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greengorillaz 1 year ago
Where do you think the majority of western musical framework came from?
Religion, that's where. Religious song was the 'recording medium' of the time. Take it or leave it. If people want to believe in santa clause, let them. What bearing does it have on you? If your were truly devoid of dogma, you would hardly be so defensive of other peoples belief systems. Your defensive diatribe makes you seem unsure. Carry on ladies :D
paralelSun 1 year ago 9
now i see who owl city was trying to rip off.
octopuscollective 1 year ago
@octopuscollective owl city was ripping off postal service haha. almost identical.
GnossosSlothrop 1 year ago
Je découvre & j'approuve, je comprend rien au texte mais... Profondeur, émotion, mélodie... J'aime.
MrBzhyann 1 year ago
Everything he did before this was good, sometimes great. But this album reminded me of the mystery and excitement of life all over again.
withirishlove 1 year ago
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Thus, does a book written back then have any insight today? Why should the misinformed of ancient times have any relevance on us today? They were so devoid of common knowledge back then (and sense) that the whole concept of faith is a disservice to humanity. It has actually limited us....for centuries. And still does today.
Wake up good man and drop the christian crutch. So illogical. So misguided.
Love your tunes, though. Keep on inspiring.
falang78 1 year ago
@falang78
Im gonna agree with soupinator you really need to study before entering any debate against christianity or even creationism or else you sound stupid
gabbe7 1 year ago
Sufjan - Someone as intelligent as yourself should not subscribe to this Christian nonsense you often allude to lyrically. Would you seek help for an ear infection from a medical document that was written 2000 years ago? Would it have divine insight? It would probably suggest a concoction of desert sand and fermented apple resin as a remedy for ear aches.
falang78 1 year ago
@falang78 but that recipe works for me.
ant1ph0n 1 year ago
@falang78 No offense, but as far as rebuttals against Christianity go, this has to be the dumbest one. If you're going to be an atheist, at least be an intelligent, respectful one, not an ignorant, pretentious one.
soupinator13 1 year ago 3
@soupinator13
You're entitled to your opinion. It might be a simple argument, but it's premise is still grounded in logic.
2000 year old wisdom should have no bearing or relevance to the modern day. That should be obvious.
Atheists must unite.
falang78 1 year ago
@falang78
I disagree. Even if you are not a Christian, certainly you must concede that there is text within the Bible that still has relevance. Most atheists would agree that there is some truth and wisdom within the BIble, even if they believe it's mixed in with a lot of nonsense, too.
By your logic, we should discard all of Archimedes' mathematical discoveries, because it is 2000 year old wisdom and should have no bearing or relevance to the modern day.
soupinator13 1 year ago 6
@soupinator13 why is there religious debate occurring here? Thats what the other 99% of youtube is for.
paralelSun 1 year ago
@paralelSun You're right...let's save this one for how awesome Sufjan is :)...and not attack his religious views *cough cough* falang78 *cough cough*
soupinator13 1 year ago
@paralelSun
Cuz Sufjan writes with religous undertones.
falang78 8 months ago
I missed an oppurtunity here - Archimedes' discoveries were based on science and proof. They were not fables. They were principles that were clearly defined, tested, repeated and universally accepted as reality. The bible is not. It is a book. It sold well. It held back progress and human growth for nearly two millenia. It is fracturing and diluting the last great empire as we speak. It is a vestigial curse.
falang78 11 months ago
@falang78 It was because of ancient documents like the bible that helped humanity up from savagery. Its an important part of our history. Your one of those people who look at the cover and make outlandish statements, read it first. Although my belief in god has lessened, it doesnt mean I've lost respect in what is written in that book. Some of its messages have no doubt turned the hardest individual into a caring person.
meotoko77 11 months ago
Human nature and the capacity for empathy was long invented before some ancient text, which of course was diluted by multiple translations and re-editeding for millenia. Were we not thriving before the bible? Myth and fable did not create social ethics and societal growth. Evolution and natural selection did. Our ancestors reproduced because their inherited ethical and empathetic behaviour was appealing to potential mates. And communities are built on the backs of such people. And thrive.
falang78 11 months ago
@falang78 To sum it up. There was really never anything wrong with the Bible, a humans greed sustained. Bible or not, we thrived because we believed in something non-existant. Either it'd be agriculture or a way of life, that very unknown thing helped us survive. The bible was just another medium that helped us realize such things. Just because something is of "myth or "fable" does not mean that there is no some moral or lesson to it. Your reading too deep into things.
meotoko77 11 months ago
It was a medium long used for fear and obedience. I realize it's sad for some to grasp the bible's absolute irrelevance in the modern age. But, time will tell. Our ancestors will marvel at our rapid progression, attained in spite of the bible's impediment to the self actualization of the human endeavor.
falang78 11 months ago
Alas, you can sadly spew your rhetoric until you're blue in the face. But the educated know and endorse the current death of organized religion. Logic and the passion for verified truths is prevailing and always will. I take solace in the notion that my descendents will be free - some day very soon. And, I I'll never relent fighting for such a worthy cause.
falang78 11 months ago
Correction - Or descendents will marvel at our technological achievements, achieved and spread, not through religious goals but for the common good. For the community. For humanity
falang78 11 months ago
@meotoko77
Nah, the bible was a tool used to distort and subject society. Self-proclaimed clerics did what some humans are built to do - used any means for deception and accumulation of wealth. It was a method for subjugating and creating class based hierarchies (castes). It introduced and permeated cronyism.
falang78 8 months ago
@falang78 and then we all fucking die. it just gets too depressing thinking about things like this, granted it's interesting but it can totally consume your life. maybe it's just me.
ant1ph0n 8 months ago
@ant1ph0n
I choose the harsh reality of truth (an atheist existence) over a life lived and wasted abiding to path structured on irrational dogma.
falang78 8 months ago 2
@meotoko77
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Simply put, it was a social mechanism that if manipulated correctly, ensured the possessors to control the peasants. It also ensured their offspring's survival and path to the pinnacle of sociel order - hegemony. It was genius. Still is, for the unenlightened regions and their leaders, anyway.
falang78 8 months ago
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falang78 8 months ago
His best yet.
falang78 1 year ago
God! It sounds just like Elephant Gun!
boredincnwitd 1 year ago
@boredincnwitd I've had those two phasing in and out of each other in my brain for weeks now
pkent1 1 year ago
@boredincnwitd by beirut? not even....
LittleLimaBean 1 year ago
Too many electronic samples... don't really like it.
RonjaRT 1 year ago
It sounds like something from 808s & Heart Breaks... I luv it!
sounddepth 1 year ago
This song is AMAZING!!!! It's got the same sad vibe as Frederik Teige's Elevate. LOVE IT!!!
Dane66Stew 1 year ago
Is there anything he can do wrong?? I don't think so Tim...
hallosaurus 1 year ago
I love this man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
raymondvlandrum 1 year ago
I know I'm going to get totally flamed/bashed/called a troll for saying this, but I find this entire album extremely dull and boring. All of the songs feel like they are too long for how slowly paced they are, with there being little else to the songs other than good lyrics.
drjohnson89 1 year ago
in parts it's sounds like stuart murdoch on acid
indieaner52 1 year ago
Sounds like a modernized remix of Beirut's "Elephant Gun," no?
friendlydonkey 1 year ago
@friendlydonkey u are right the song are really similar
eddyclassicone 1 year ago
I'm obsessed with this album and this song. I really like where Sufjan is going. <3
So good
helloelizabethjacobs 1 year ago 35
It's cool if you're really digging this new stuff, but some people just don't like it. It doesn't mean they're ignorant or are not ready for it yet. It just means...wait for it...they don't like it. Personally, I think it's alright, could've been better.
bbeaup 1 year ago
compare the beginning of this to 'electric president - we were never built to last'.
yannique 1 year ago
its useless to compare the xx and sufjan, they're completely different. in this album, sufjan is just experimenting with a new style. the synth and sampler is the XX's staple. This is a completely new territory to Sufjan, and i don't think he's really trying to reinvent himself. Muscians are allowed to try different things, and this is his attempt.
vicccccccxD 1 year ago 2
@vicccccccxD I agree--this feels like an artistic progression for Sufjan that while not-so-obvious, has context.
tijuanavista 1 year ago
Whats up with all these artists trying to reinvent themselves. Sufjan's electro sound is ok but he will be best known for his folk sound.
phoenixmakesmehard 1 year ago
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@phoenixmakesmehard you are so wrong. This isn't really a change more than it is a return to his original style. Go back and listen to Enjoy Your Rabbit and A Sun Came. His roots are electronic and you can tell that this is the album he's been wanting to make for a while.
june18th1988 1 year ago
@phoenixmakesmehard
if they don't continue to explore new ways of making music and new sounds, they wouldn't be true artists
yanpan16 1 year ago
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