@sciencedoggy Not to butt in, but if tools are not considered a part of human beings, then it means little to know the answer to "cyborg or not?". It would just be an arbitrary classification. Dentures are fake teeth, but they're only fixed in by glue. Pins hold bones together, but they're really just floating in place, and you can barely distinguish between them and splinters as far as "foreign objects within the skin's boundaries" are concerned. How would you clarify?
If the component is not intergrated into the body or grafted to the body, it's NOT a cybernetic, Amber. Please stop using your own definitions and/or trying to change the definitions.
I wish she could have put a few of her points in a clearer fashion. I'm pretty sure she has some great ideas but the way some of it is put is antiproductive to proving her point. But hey she's put more though into it than I have so I won't judge.
She needs to practice her speeches more. She's stretching so -hard- to try and make things fit. Her applying the term cybernetic to as many things as she is doesn't work. When they mean attach they mean surgically. It's almost like she's trying to hammer a round peg into a square hole, but it's not quite fitting. The other problem is that she's being far too redundant and she's failing at coherently getting her ideas across and her comparisons are flawed or inappropriate.
You know, I enjoy the concept and spirit of this talk, but as previously pointed out, I think she was getting a bit too carried away with what it means to be cybernetic. That being said, I would desperately request she practice her talks more. I think what she has to say is interesting, but she kinda sucks at conveying it in an interesting and coherent manner.
I feel like this presentation is too hyperbolic. there are a lot of underlying limits to cybernetics that the speaker is ignoring, such as the limit of the human brain. Sure, you could present a large amount of information to a person with all the gadgetry at once, but how much can they really see and understand understand at once? suppose we overcome the medical challenges with brain implants: how much could we really care about at any one moment without becoming autistic and compulsive?
Yeah, but we're looking at this from a modern perspective. Consider stuff like flight. For a long time it was just inconceveable that fixed wing flight could exist. We just weren't working with the full set of facts.
So, the point is 'we have better tools now than we did in the past'? I didn't catch much in the way of novel analysis, aside from the claim that to use tools is to be a cyborg. That claim is obviously pointlessly broad, and also relies on a goofy distinction between natural&artificial.
Study of history is Science in my book, but this is more like a college term paper in my opinion bordering more on philosophy rather then science. Some can say Philosophy is science that studies the human condition but this is a small video with delusions of grandeur. Lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I have my opinions and you have yours, as to me missing the point of the vid? Umm... again lets just say difference of opinion. ^^
Thinking to understanding to knowlege is science. Engineering application, study of history, or social theory etc., are all science to me.
Some people out there love to put class value on things and whine about what's elite and what's trivial. People are so smart they don't know they're trapped in an ivory tower.
Very true, but what my peeve with this video is this modern culture anthropology with a lot of hypothetical implications for the future. Yet, they are trying label today's culture as "cybernetic" listing our present day tools as an example. Since we are a oil based society and it is a limited resource soon the tools we use today will have to be replaced, just because we know about event horizon, doesn't mean we can reach it. So what I see from this study is a waste of money if there were grants
Yeah, I suppose it would be a waste of grant money since no new knowledge is gained. It is more philosophy than science. Still, it is interesting, and may even do a bit to popularize science. At the very least, it is an entertaining video that is somewhat mind expanding in that it introduces a new way of thinking about humanity. Gnomedex calls itself, "The technology conference of inspiration and influence." So I do not know how directly funded this may have been, but you must admit it was fun.
What I was asking is that really valid branch of science? And no I am not talking temrinator or something like that, the definition of a cyborg is an organism that has both biological parts and artifical parts, holding a cell phone or typing on a keyboard does not make you a cyborg, as the stars of this vid are trying to imply. If that is the case driving a tractor would make you a cyborg.
Well, I guess that particular aspect is not science as it is simply a matter of semantics. But it was never put forth as science. The purpose I perceived from this video was that it was an attempt to make us rethink what we really are and what we will be in the future. That for all practical reasons we may as well be considered cyborgs and will not resort to artificial replacements or implants unless they offer far greater advantages to external, separate components.
A cyborg is simply an organism with both natural and artificial systems. Why replace organic systems when they can be augmented without doing yourself irreparable harm? The sci-fi depiction of cyborgs is meant to cause fear or make them seem inhuman more than to show the benefits. We are not chopping off and replacing limbs, but we are traveling faster than speed of sound. We are communicating with the entire world at the speed of light. We are far more than human. Cyborg fits pretty well.
@ElNerdoLoco However, the 'seamless merging' route of tech development takes time and has to, by its nature, move gradually. With the 'We want it now' and 'I want the best there is' consumerist economy, the "chopping off a limb" method might emerge in the early adopter market anyway.
E.G.: "Joe down the road has the new iPhone - I'll show him up by getting it surgically implanted into the back of my head. That'll wok TWICE as fast."
won't be long and it will be a necessary prosthetic. Can't buy, sell or trade without it.
Those without will be crippled and then a holocaustic genocide of those who are disabled. mahahahaha
MrOppsadoozy 11 months ago
A hammer is NOT a prosthetic, Amber. It's a tool. Unless it is attached to your body, and I mean ATTACHED, it's not a cybernetic.
sciencedoggy 1 year ago
@sciencedoggy Not to butt in, but if tools are not considered a part of human beings, then it means little to know the answer to "cyborg or not?". It would just be an arbitrary classification. Dentures are fake teeth, but they're only fixed in by glue. Pins hold bones together, but they're really just floating in place, and you can barely distinguish between them and splinters as far as "foreign objects within the skin's boundaries" are concerned. How would you clarify?
sobeita 4 days ago
If the component is not intergrated into the body or grafted to the body, it's NOT a cybernetic, Amber. Please stop using your own definitions and/or trying to change the definitions.
sciencedoggy 1 year ago
I prefer prosthetic hybrotics and jellyfish technology :D
PinkProgram 1 year ago
KILL THE SOUND GUY.
RalphClassic 1 year ago 3
she is just mind-blowing! I was reading her description on Fast-company and my jaw just dropped. i've subscribed to her twitter immediately.
P.S. she looks very like Debra Morgan from Dexter series.
Screamer1989 1 year ago 2
@Screamer1989 So that's who she reminded me of! Thank you.
TheFriendlyMoosh 7 months ago
For videos like this, we need more up thumbs.
superhakujin 1 year ago
I wish she could have put a few of her points in a clearer fashion. I'm pretty sure she has some great ideas but the way some of it is put is antiproductive to proving her point. But hey she's put more though into it than I have so I won't judge.
Steampunkseb 1 year ago
Who cares if it's vague fallacious bullshit she's got a nice butt.
c1arknova 1 year ago
She needs to practice her speeches more. She's stretching so -hard- to try and make things fit. Her applying the term cybernetic to as many things as she is doesn't work. When they mean attach they mean surgically. It's almost like she's trying to hammer a round peg into a square hole, but it's not quite fitting. The other problem is that she's being far too redundant and she's failing at coherently getting her ideas across and her comparisons are flawed or inappropriate.
Jirekianu 1 year ago
Well! I'd call that a Case closed.
Econniff 1 year ago
with lasers ^.^
PistolOfShame 1 year ago
You know, I enjoy the concept and spirit of this talk, but as previously pointed out, I think she was getting a bit too carried away with what it means to be cybernetic. That being said, I would desperately request she practice her talks more. I think what she has to say is interesting, but she kinda sucks at conveying it in an interesting and coherent manner.
soval7 1 year ago
I feel like this presentation is too hyperbolic. there are a lot of underlying limits to cybernetics that the speaker is ignoring, such as the limit of the human brain. Sure, you could present a large amount of information to a person with all the gadgetry at once, but how much can they really see and understand understand at once? suppose we overcome the medical challenges with brain implants: how much could we really care about at any one moment without becoming autistic and compulsive?
tecbolts 1 year ago
@tecbolts
Yeah, but we're looking at this from a modern perspective. Consider stuff like flight. For a long time it was just inconceveable that fixed wing flight could exist. We just weren't working with the full set of facts.
harlequin2262 1 year ago 2
@tecbolts interesting thoughts, but i think you need to look up something called the technological singularity :)
stayphrosty 1 year ago
So, the point is 'we have better tools now than we did in the past'? I didn't catch much in the way of novel analysis, aside from the claim that to use tools is to be a cyborg. That claim is obviously pointlessly broad, and also relies on a goofy distinction between natural&artificial.
somanypenpals 1 year ago
Study of history is Science in my book, but this is more like a college term paper in my opinion bordering more on philosophy rather then science. Some can say Philosophy is science that studies the human condition but this is a small video with delusions of grandeur. Lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I have my opinions and you have yours, as to me missing the point of the vid? Umm... again lets just say difference of opinion. ^^
morgantheron 2 years ago
Thinking to understanding to knowlege is science. Engineering application, study of history, or social theory etc., are all science to me.
Some people out there love to put class value on things and whine about what's elite and what's trivial. People are so smart they don't know they're trapped in an ivory tower.
kagnad 2 years ago 3
Very true, but what my peeve with this video is this modern culture anthropology with a lot of hypothetical implications for the future. Yet, they are trying label today's culture as "cybernetic" listing our present day tools as an example. Since we are a oil based society and it is a limited resource soon the tools we use today will have to be replaced, just because we know about event horizon, doesn't mean we can reach it. So what I see from this study is a waste of money if there were grants
morgantheron 2 years ago
Yeah, I suppose it would be a waste of grant money since no new knowledge is gained. It is more philosophy than science. Still, it is interesting, and may even do a bit to popularize science. At the very least, it is an entertaining video that is somewhat mind expanding in that it introduces a new way of thinking about humanity. Gnomedex calls itself, "The technology conference of inspiration and influence." So I do not know how directly funded this may have been, but you must admit it was fun.
ElNerdoLoco 2 years ago
What I was asking is that really valid branch of science? And no I am not talking temrinator or something like that, the definition of a cyborg is an organism that has both biological parts and artifical parts, holding a cell phone or typing on a keyboard does not make you a cyborg, as the stars of this vid are trying to imply. If that is the case driving a tractor would make you a cyborg.
morgantheron 2 years ago
Well, I guess that particular aspect is not science as it is simply a matter of semantics. But it was never put forth as science. The purpose I perceived from this video was that it was an attempt to make us rethink what we really are and what we will be in the future. That for all practical reasons we may as well be considered cyborgs and will not resort to artificial replacements or implants unless they offer far greater advantages to external, separate components.
ElNerdoLoco 2 years ago 6
But is this really science? I thought cybernetics were the replace organs and limb and senses, what I see is an advanced tool list
morgantheron 2 years ago
A cyborg is simply an organism with both natural and artificial systems. Why replace organic systems when they can be augmented without doing yourself irreparable harm? The sci-fi depiction of cyborgs is meant to cause fear or make them seem inhuman more than to show the benefits. We are not chopping off and replacing limbs, but we are traveling faster than speed of sound. We are communicating with the entire world at the speed of light. We are far more than human. Cyborg fits pretty well.
ElNerdoLoco 2 years ago 26
@ElNerdoLoco However, the 'seamless merging' route of tech development takes time and has to, by its nature, move gradually. With the 'We want it now' and 'I want the best there is' consumerist economy, the "chopping off a limb" method might emerge in the early adopter market anyway.
E.G.: "Joe down the road has the new iPhone - I'll show him up by getting it surgically implanted into the back of my head. That'll wok TWICE as fast."
bdaroczy 1 year ago
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ElNerdoLoco 1 year ago
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ElNerdoLoco 1 year ago
@ElNerdoLoco Sci-fi depictions of cyborgs don't scare me, I actually would prefer to do that. Let's shed these meatbags.
sciencedoggy 1 year ago
See ElNerdoLoco's quote. It explains it perfectly.
caseorganic 2 years ago
You clearly missed the entire point of the video then.
Vire70 2 years ago 5
i is from portland.... lol i dont get what the hell is this vid about except cyborg crap
trousien 2 years ago
yep!
caseorganic 2 years ago
booooooooooo
meizice 2 years ago
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caseorganic 2 years ago
Awesome video.
Iy's funny how at the end she was talking about black holes, and forgot that term, and then like 80% of the people shouted "event horizon!"
lmao
6663000 2 years ago 4
what minute ?
Matrice01 2 years ago
danggg too long
kgrayman 2 years ago
She looks cute..honestly lol.
Teldara 2 years ago 13
@Teldara
you all pussy whooped. Too much pron to take over humanity. Men are so weak and easy to take over.
MrOppsadoozy 11 months ago
@MrOppsadoozy I forgot I even made that comment. It's been a year. Hahaha.
Teldara 11 months ago
lol
leebob221 2 years ago
Is there a TL;DW version? Couldn't get past 10 minutes.
TheNewYorkPete 2 years ago
needs more automail
killerkevin001 2 years ago
the only thing is that robot will do work for us and we gonna get fat as hell... and then they will become into a terminator and kill as all lol
X2N18 2 years ago
shes a beauty i love her : P
X2N18 2 years ago 4
excuse me all, does anyone know who that lady is next to the edward scissorhands picture at 4:19 ~ thanks
Uciferlay 2 years ago
That would be 7-of9 from the star trek series Voyager.
ASkyfiOriginal 2 years ago 3
thanks
Uciferlay 2 years ago
Nice video.
cusinndzl 2 years ago
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this fails and =1 star
AvfcForLife123 2 years ago
@AvfcForLife123
You fail, and dont even deserve a star rating...
EvilPinkBunnyRabbits 2 years ago
well if im such a fail why bother with me
AvfcForLife123 2 years ago
If you think this video is a fail, why bother with it...
EvilPinkBunnyRabbits 2 years ago 3
Lame.
Sxkcils 2 years ago
GNOMEDEX!!!
namedastech 2 years ago
oh god tl;dw
tgm09 2 years ago
is this video still being processed?
comptuts1 2 years ago
why the fuck do folk still worry picture quality to newly uploaded video.look how long it is the file most be huge.
lestube001 2 years ago
calm down lol
comptuts1 2 years ago
sorry
lestube001 2 years ago
No need to swear
comptuts1 2 years ago
sorry.makes mad sum times
lestube001 2 years ago
Lol, yeah prosthetics culture is weird. o.O
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IkE29o6 2 years ago
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Justdiespawn 2 years ago