i dont care what this song is truly about. its a good song and it CAN be taken in different ways. i see it as a person deciding to finally be who she really is. and it may not be what everyone else is and may even be thought of as "crazy" or "wrong", but she pushes others thoughts of her aside because all she wants is to be herself. i really like this song because of that since its a great song of expression. she finally decides to forget everyone and BE HERSELF.
thanks to whomever posted this beautiful and touching piece.
kinda intense thread goin on. this song only reminds me of being 'young', and trying to 'grow up', and all those feelings that can arise during a time in one's life. i relate to the words: they make me reminisce on my 'difficult years' and how my parents tried to deal with my shit, and vice versa.
Lol Trowa is probably going to grow the be the next fucking Hitler. By the looks of his comments, he wants us all to be JUST LIKE HIM. Believe in his rules. Haha good luck.
the moral truth of this song is everyone has problems and needs to be loved,without the feeling of being loved we are not whole its about others feelings and needs to be loved if you spend time trying to make people love you your missing the point,in st francis' prayer he says lord grant that i may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand to be loved as to love for it is in pardoning that we are pardoned and in giving that we receive so dont worry about it
What are the name of the band members, does anyone know? Sometimes I hear the girl voice, sometimes the guy voice, do they all sing, or just two of them?
this song is SOOOOOO kewl i love it GREAT vid! and i think its unfair to treat ppl different just cuz they got a problem i treat them how i wana be treated its only fair!
I like this song because it means something different to me and everyone else. I'm not homosexual, yet I feel like my parents don't understand me, which is the real underlying meaning of the song. "I'm making sense of shattered dreams because I want you to be proud of me". I'm ambitious and believe in love; they believe in settling. How about everyone else, what does this song mean to you?
notice how all of my comments are minused because these people know its the truth and they dont like hearing it :] just proves my point that being gay bi homo whatever it makes u insecure and makes your conscience think because inside you know its wrong but you dont want to believe it
We all know what's wrong and what's right to us, to ourselves, and it has nothing to do with "god" or anything of the sort.
Your comments are minused because you're being opiniated and obnoxious and shoving your beliefs in people's faces. Not because we can't accept a so-called "truth". With all due respect, please take your preaching somewhere else.
I really didn't want to step in, but you're taking it way too far.
no because whats wrong to you may not be wrong to me, thats why we look to a source that even through certain periods of "craziness" have kept to the truth of morality, and i didnt mean to come across as shoving my religion in ur face, but life has ups and downs and you people take everything so litterally like its going to kill you and you continue worrying about yourselves when its not really about you
of course im spamming it when u hear something you dont want to hear report me if youd like but im going to continue commenting and speaking my mind, 1st amendment, secondly i never said your beliefs are going to send you to hell, i try to find parts of the truth in every religion group etc. but the idea of all these different religions or cults or groups came from the catholic church and the only way to achieave sure salvation is through the church
kikyochan is right, read text books about it. the reason why the star which symbolises the 5 elements not the devil. and the belif in multipule entities became sinful in western europe was because the christian religion needed ways to convert the people. So they had no tolerence message which helped abolish pagan belifs, and even now people dont know much about it ( thats why now its neo everything bc people make their own versions of it) scientists are still finding new things about hte pagans
Although I don't think very highly of you, I'm doing my best to respect you. Now in respect of other people who are watching this video, I'm going to stop posting these comments...If you really want to discuss this further, you can send me a message, I won't reply on here any longer.
Sorry to everyone else for posting all these things irrelevant to the video. @.@
there not irrelevant, if someone was saying they were going to murder someone in a youtube and you said killing is wrong he could say thats irrelevant? being gay bi homo is directly related to the fact that it is wrong and people need to hear about it or else they will continue to live their lives in sin, and despite what your mislead conscience is telling you it is wrong
Erinyes is something from Greek mythology, not my name. About me? I'm 19, never went to church regularly and grew up with one rule, the golden rule, "Treat others as you want to be treated". Never smoked, drinked, or had sex. Graduated with 3.9 GPA with many awards and get along with my parents. All my own decisions, no strict rules from authority. Yet, I'm godless, I must be a horrible person.
im not saying your a horrible person im saying you could be a better person and i do treat others like i want to be treated: i want to know when im doing something wrong
Umm, if what you're really trying to do is convert us, it'd be a good idea to stop yelling at us and stop calling us stupid. Why should we listen to someone who obviously holds no respect for us? You really aren't accomplishing anything here on Youtube, especially with your attitude, take it somewhere else.
where am i yelling at you? you keep making excuses to get away from the direct truth, i hold much respect for you i hold none for what this song talks about
You know, I have a friend who is a full-blast Christian, but I have a lot of respect for her. She tries to get to understand the person and their ways rather than bluntly say, "That's wrong". So, she has some non-heterosexual friends, and although she disagrees with them and makes it known, she respects them and knows when to stop. You could learn a few things from her!
thats great, would it help if i asked what your name is erin maybe ? well erin see ur friend is right its good to get to know people and if you want to get to know me heres my life story up to now. i was born at st joes hospital in 1994 and grew up in a strong catholic home,i go to parochial school in WI where im an 8th grader,i play many sports- soccer football basketball etc.i luv to read and often read the bible, im now 13 14 in july and thats pretty much it ur turn
to make this easy for u guys to understand ill put it like this- what you are going thru is a stage, and if you truly feel like your gay, bi, or tri sexual you are called to live a celebate life, or simply dont have sex, also your parents always love you but when you do things they dont want you to its not because they want to make your life suk its becuz they want to have a better life and in our society little boys who dress like girls and wear earings
Obviously your mind is too filled with shit for me to deal with. By the way, it's "purgatory." Stop spelling like a 5-year-old. I'm so done with this.
k well first off im 13 not 5 so spelling idc about anyway, also if my mind is filled with shit whats urs filled with flowers rainbows and butterflys? holy crap dude if ur done with this dont start it. if you want me to go holy on you let me get my CCC otherwise keep ur satanistic ideals to urself
All you're trying to do is make yourself look better by putting other people down. I'm pretty sure hubris is some sort of sin too. Once you, oh, hit puberty and make friends with those who are different than you, I want to see if you can still say these ignorant things. From what I heard, Jesus made friends with the "sinners", not bash them, that's why he was so special!
he did make friends with the sinners but did he go and sin afterward??? i have many different friends from many different places of many different religions and sexual oriantations, and if you think just cause jesus is kind and caring that he accepts it when you sin, he made friends with them he didnt smoke a doobie and call it a day he changed their lives by living by example- im not perfect i dont have complete patience so it may seem im a jackass but look for the truth in what im saying
If you negatively bring in politics or religion into any song, you are wrong. Shut the hell up and let everyone enjoy the music.
Also, if you think God hates homosexuals, you are an ass and very ignorant, not a true Christian at all. Hate to not drop the subject, but I just had to respond to all your assanine comments.
So let me see. This song is about a girl trying to get past people's problems with her "preference" especially her parents? It always makes me cry, mostly because I'm always translating it differently in my head.
thats why i go to reconciliation, im13so i gues i wudnt do stuff like that now, also there r sins that r worse then others, there mortal sins, and venial sins, lying is not as bad as killing someone,venial sin weakens our relationship with God but can be fixed through our own prayers of repentence, mortal sins how ever almost completely destroy our relationship with God and can only be taken care of by receiving absolution from a priest
acutally the bible says sex can be for pleasure not just reproduction, and it also says marriage is between one man and one woman, i believe our country was founded on that basis of belief, also our country if you look in the constitution mentions God and rules from the bible of the roman catholic faith so take a look and since youve been reading it all your life you would know that wouldnt you, and yes america is free for religion but morals are the same no matter what
Here's some truth for you whiny emo kids, this song means nothing, you're looking for an excuse to feel sad. Get over it kids, smile, the world aint that bad, stop pretending to feel bad because you want to be interesting. This song is catchy but it's tricking you into thinking you're relating, but you only relate because it's generic emo nonsense and you're desperate to validate your emo status. GET OVER IT!
As a side note, trowa202, you have no right to criticize other people's problems. Not only does it not relate to this song, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying that a guy who killed one person isn't really that bad, because there are people who killed ten people.
you yourself admitted this is a problem then, and no if thats what you thought that killing 1 person is worse then 10 people you did not interpret it correctly, every life is important but with no one to say it firmly you will go on doing idiotic things like being bisexual, also its my job to worry about other people i am in fact in the military
That is not what I was talking about. I was referring to how you scorned other people's problems because there are "worst things". I don't understand why bisexuality bothers you.
it bothers me because it is immoral and it helps our country how? not at all. the only reason people are bisexual is for fun and pleasure, a true relationship is about love and also why would God put a man and a woman on the earth? maybe cause their meant for each other. if you dont believe in God then why are monkeys not gay take the binobo for example they have the most intercourse but not with the same sex eh ? the person does not bother me the reasoning does
I would really love to debate with you further, but I do not like cluttering up this music space with angry words about religion. I do believe in a superior force, I just haven't figured out which religion I believe. It's people like you who make me shy from Christianity.
You really ought to take your comments elsewhere. Make a post or forum on any random site to continue your arrogant rants. People are hopeful to learn more about the song by looking at these comments, not about religion.
shut the hell up eh ? so you believe there is a hell- then you must believe there is a heaven and the Roman Catholic Church is the only true way to salvation, not saying salvation cant be achieved outside the church its just a lot harder, also the Church says being bi and gay is wrong, so dude shut the heaven up
Music and their lyrics mean something different from person to person, and depending on moods. The best song allows this, it doesn't really have a set "meaning". It's cool to see how other people have interpreted and used this song, as long as they're not bashing other people along the way.
Dude has got a point, music isn't about words and what other people call you, it's about how you feel. That's why the best music would be the best even if the lyrics were totaly random.
music is about the words whether you realize it or not the words get into your head and the more you listen to it the more you think that their point makes sense then the next time someone asks you a question you think well that song made sense and it think that its true so im gonna stick up for it, even though being bi or gay or lesbian is totally and completely immoral
the vast likelihood of there actually being anything wrong physically or truly mentally wrong with any of you is slim to none. What we have here is a mental disorder that you all have known as: "Stupid". This is also known as "teenager". being depressed is normal every so often. get over yourselves ppl. i'm sure your parents love you, God knows why.
no... you're not bi, what you are is an attention whore. Hows abouts you guys quit being losers. "I relate to this song" omfg, grow up. "I pierced my ear, now my parents dont talk to me WAAAAAAAAAAAA" HOw about you do what your parents say? Maybe then you won't grow up to be a "bisexual" attention whore.
But no, you losers are stuck in your little retarded kid stage. None of you were abused enough when you were little.
you may say they arent bi...i am...i know i am becase when i started liking boys i started liking girls...i still do and im not an attention whore...my parents dont even know...my fiends dont either...i was also RAPED...nobody knows that...and i WAS abused so shut up
so you keep what you think to yourself...you are probly WAY off
I agree, trowa202, you should keep that kind of stuff to yourself pleez. and quietlysweating, i'm SO sry about that last part. I personally can't relate, but my mom can, and it hurts me too.
there are two types of evil people in the world by the way- ones who do evil and ones who let evil happen and not say or do anything being bisexual is evil, immoral, and wrong if your parents raised you otherwise your parents are ignorant, chances are you people are bi for fun, start praying you can change because you will be sadly mistaken some day
obviously your parents dont know because they most likely would not accept you being bisexual i apologize if i offended you but think of this are u bisexual because you love a man and a woman or because there fun toys that you can play with and also if you do love another man obviously its immoral and wrong because we reproduce by women not other men
WOAH, I NEVER said I was bi, or ANYTHING! I'm totally straight, and I'm a Christian so I don't believe being gay or bi is ok. I'm just saying, that could offend some people by saying that kida stuff. that's all, sry if i offended u. :)
i can relate man my brothers friend molested me when i was 5. Also my parents think im gay BUT I AM NOT GAY!!! I AM PERFECTLY STRAIGHT!!!! im also offended that people always judge people for the stupidest reasons so to it does not matter ur a person, a human being so i think its stupid to judge some1 if they r gay black or anything its just stupid!!! so just keep ur ideas to urself if u think ur gonna offend some1!!!
thats problem its not about offending people who gives a shit, yes ahh dont hurt their feelings they might get sad. come on its not about feelings its about doing whats right im glad you got over being molested thats great i am truly happy for you, but being gay or bi or lesbian as ive said 10 20 30 times is evil and immoral
What the fuck is wrong with you, trowa? Don't come and start saying shit about gays and lesbians being "evil and immoral". What is it about their sexual preferences that make it immoral?
because you are bisexual you are now called to live a celebate life, so in the churches eyes you are sinning every time you look lustfully at anyone now.
in your religion mit says to treat other the way you want to be treated, you dont see fucking gay ppl beat up straight ppl or lezbos! DONT BRING RELIGION ON YOUTUBE! THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR PREACHING!! OMFG YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE POPE LISTENING TO DEICIDE
yes it says to treat others the way you want to be treated. whats ur point? im saying that your supposed to live a celebate life now, if u dont want people to preach dont put satan worship on youtube and whats wrong with listening to decide? and the reason you dont hear about gay people beating up straight people is because our government hides it to keep little jimmies feelings from getting hurt
You need to stop judging people, and actually get to understand them a little bit better. Maybe then you'll stop making stupid assumptions and comments. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Christians valued the idea of LOVE over anything else?
very true we do, but dont be mistaken we should feel love towards everyone, but the love a man feels for another man is not and should not be the same as a woman and a man, look in the chatechism of the Church and they are not assumptions again look in the chatechism and think hmm why should i have sex with a man and a women when it only takes one and one woman? HMM think dont speak just ponder
im not trying to be some heathen of god or anything i just belive that people should love who they want when they want it religon is not everything you know after all if god didn't want us to be gay or bi he wouldn't have let us have free will and beside god loves us all gay bi or straight i think that if you generally a good person then god would accept you into his kingdom thats why he invented pergatory... duh
actually God gave us freewill because he loved us enough to let us make our own decisions that in no way shape or form says that we should break the rules of the bible and the catechism im not saying they are bad people and i love them all but what they are doing is wrong and if they continue to do so they have a better chance of going to hell i am not making a judement wether or not they are going to hell but they have a better chance
trowa you have no life i mean you just sit here blabbing about religion on youtube! do you seriously think it will make a difference? get off you stpid lazy ass and do something aout yourproblems or just shut the F*** up because your being annoying fringe of a human being to the rest of the human race
actually first off religion is everywhere and should be used everywhere all the time every minute of every day, secondly just because we have free will does not mean you have the right to misuse it by sinning. and pergatory is not a free pass into the Kingdom of God you cant sin and expect to go to pergatory, if you feel you are gay or bisexual you are called to live a celebate life
ya i really relate to this song kinda..my parents are being ignorant cuz i got my ear pierced..they dont accept it...and now they kinda dont talk to me..i just wanna tell them that an earing doesnt changes who i am, or wut i do..
true but you broke the fourth commandment, you lost their trust and they will always love you no matter what but they cant trust you enough to show that love otherwise they think that you'll go out and do something stupid again
Getting your ear pierced isn't stupid. My family is strictly Christian, yet I have four piercings in my ears. It all depends on what your parents think of it.
i understand that but doing without your parents permission is wrong and then once they get dissapointed you wonder why and mope around the rest of your freakin life
A relate to this in a way because I forget things easily, my parents tell me I should be in a mentally ill school. It breaks me, I just want to tell her, I don't have a problem, I just forget things. They don't have to ruin my life about it! T.T
You shouldn't let them ruin your life. If you know you don't have a problem, then you don't. I also have problems remembering things, but it doesn't hold me back, and I'm sure it doesn't for you as well. Just stay positive. :)
Yeah, the doctors told me I have ADD, but the medication just made it worse, and when they ran tests, they discovered I'm not ADD. jeez. What do the doctors really know? :D
ya i think we all have a story to tell along with this song
my step mom duznt like me and is alwyas putting me down adn it really hurts whne i can hear her yelling at my sister to not turn out like me
and also my parents thoguth i was mentally depressed so they put me on happy pills which only made me even more depressed adn it turns out theres nuthing wrong!
a woman who abborts her child thinks she doesnt have a problem but she does, a person who thinks they dont need their meds when they really do has a problem, a person who thinks being bisexual and not listening to your parents has a problem for goodness sakes open your eyes
Music is expression. I beg to differ that it's "just words." Music can be whatever you want to make of it, and it'll affect people differently depending on their frame of mind. You can't classify it as "this" or as "that." Adios.
omygawd this reminds meh of my dad.he doesnt accept me and wont let me listen to my music when im around him.he wanted a boy and im a girl.he wanted a girly girl and im not.gawd
theres nothing wrong with figuring out what a song means. Its really only human nature. And were not fighting over it, were giving our thoughts on what we think, were not saying any one of our opinions are right. If you don't think about a song.. then isnt it just words?
Wow, Deidara, we should talk. I'm a composer and I could argue on SO many levels how a song is more than "just words". On one of those levels, however, I agree with you 100%. Music is a form of poetry, afterall. I support your comment entirly. My studies say that music is one million things. But my heart echoes what you say. Thankyou, I bow to you.
Thats soooo sad!! People should be nice and care. Nothing is wrong with you, people are all different, and it doesn't matter what sexual orientation anyone is. It just means your attracted to others than usually, it is life, and lots of people are gay bi or lesbian were all humans and we all have feelings personalities. Its just that are hormones are different, and thats just how people are not screwed up. I'm a girl and I'm Bi.
when she says "im curious" it does NOT mean shes gay, it means shes wondering if her dad thinks shes crazy or not. And even if that was the point, theres no shame in being gay. I personally think its about being hurt so much that you dont know who to love.
its true she really is a lesbian. Le Disko has refrences to he sexuality in it aswell. this is is just screaming that she is gay. there is nothing wrong with being gay. and if u religous folks out there do dont say anything or your going to hell just like us (us being gays). Read the bible you'll find out you must love your brother no matter what! dont be a hipacrit.
"somedays i try to lie"-she hides that she is gay to make them happy
color coated sweetness, swords between my clean dress- thats her hiding her secret and her pain the swords being all the pain and everything and the clean dress is her fake mask
yea. those are the lyrics. not 'somedays i try to lie' like buryxyourxdeadxx said earlyer.
i personally dont care if she's gay or not cause its none of our buisness. im just tired of people making up things about other people or celebrities when they dont even have any proof of it >.<
This song is not about depression, it is about asking for acceptance, asking why people push other people away from themselves. It is saying "I'm not changing, and you should accept me for who I am." But the singer has also tried to belong, hence the line "Because I want you to be proud of me."
so awesome! thanks for uploading this
cupid198 2 years ago 9
i dont care what this song is truly about. its a good song and it CAN be taken in different ways. i see it as a person deciding to finally be who she really is. and it may not be what everyone else is and may even be thought of as "crazy" or "wrong", but she pushes others thoughts of her aside because all she wants is to be herself. i really like this song because of that since its a great song of expression. she finally decides to forget everyone and BE HERSELF.
adamgener 2 years ago 40
Thankyou for uploading.
Yummsie 2 years ago 4
Too beautiful ^_^
i agree, i see my parents watching me grow up as I experience life
elwoni 2 years ago 16
thanks to whomever posted this beautiful and touching piece.
kinda intense thread goin on. this song only reminds me of being 'young', and trying to 'grow up', and all those feelings that can arise during a time in one's life. i relate to the words: they make me reminisce on my 'difficult years' and how my parents tried to deal with my shit, and vice versa.
STG is a really good band. support them.
best wishes, all.
loudampsfastbikes 2 years ago 13
Lol Trowa is probably going to grow the be the next fucking Hitler. By the looks of his comments, he wants us all to be JUST LIKE HIM. Believe in his rules. Haha good luck.
haydenjohn8 2 years ago 13
Jee, Trowa. Now your just acting like the pope.
MyTeacherIsDumb 2 years ago
The word of God
"Shut the **** up trowa202!!"
NOW THATS RELIGION!!
XD
blueicechi 2 years ago
Wonderfull song <3
octarock 2 years ago 23
love is love, get over it! its a state of mind.
PunkNeko19 3 years ago 68
this is my favourite song of all time
switchkforlife 4 years ago 155
Okay.. That guys a douche.. No one cares about your views on gay people going to hell..
ANYWAYS!
I love this song.
I'm pretty positive it's bout being gay. The lead singer is a lesbian. It's not too hard to decipher.
JessOwlz07 4 years ago 141
the moral truth of this song is everyone has problems and needs to be loved,without the feeling of being loved we are not whole its about others feelings and needs to be loved if you spend time trying to make people love you your missing the point,in st francis' prayer he says lord grant that i may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand to be loved as to love for it is in pardoning that we are pardoned and in giving that we receive so dont worry about it
trowa202 4 years ago
I don't really get it, i dont really get either one their songs :D But i still like'em
LunaticXD2 4 years ago 17
What are the name of the band members, does anyone know? Sometimes I hear the girl voice, sometimes the guy voice, do they all sing, or just two of them?
erinyeseyes 4 years ago
My friend's sister is dating the drummer. Says it's just the chick and the dude that sings.
The chick's name is Carah Faye, I think.
The drummer's Jeremy, for sure.
And I think the singer is Chad...
I don't know who the bassist/keyboardist is.
XSwayambhuX 4 years ago
Really?! That is so cool. Have you met them?
HJPierce 4 years ago
this song is SOOOOOO kewl i love it GREAT vid! and i think its unfair to treat ppl different just cuz they got a problem i treat them how i wana be treated its only fair!
Dhlila 4 years ago 2
I like this song because it means something different to me and everyone else. I'm not homosexual, yet I feel like my parents don't understand me, which is the real underlying meaning of the song. "I'm making sense of shattered dreams because I want you to be proud of me". I'm ambitious and believe in love; they believe in settling. How about everyone else, what does this song mean to you?
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 6
notice how all of my comments are minused because these people know its the truth and they dont like hearing it :] just proves my point that being gay bi homo whatever it makes u insecure and makes your conscience think because inside you know its wrong but you dont want to believe it
trowa202 4 years ago
Okay, you, please, in all kindness, SHUT UP.
We all know what's wrong and what's right to us, to ourselves, and it has nothing to do with "god" or anything of the sort.
Your comments are minused because you're being opiniated and obnoxious and shoving your beliefs in people's faces. Not because we can't accept a so-called "truth". With all due respect, please take your preaching somewhere else.
I really didn't want to step in, but you're taking it way too far.
kikyochann 4 years ago 44
no because whats wrong to you may not be wrong to me, thats why we look to a source that even through certain periods of "craziness" have kept to the truth of morality, and i didnt mean to come across as shoving my religion in ur face, but life has ups and downs and you people take everything so litterally like its going to kill you and you continue worrying about yourselves when its not really about you
trowa202 4 years ago
"What's wrong to you may not be wrong to me".
That's exactly what I'm saying.
This is my video that you're spamming and please take it somewhere else or I will report you.
Yeah. Our ideas of "truth" are completely different. I'm Wiccan, Trowa, and I really don't want to hear that my beliefs are going to send me to hell.
kikyochann 4 years ago 33
of course im spamming it when u hear something you dont want to hear report me if youd like but im going to continue commenting and speaking my mind, 1st amendment, secondly i never said your beliefs are going to send you to hell, i try to find parts of the truth in every religion group etc. but the idea of all these different religions or cults or groups came from the catholic church and the only way to achieave sure salvation is through the church
trowa202 4 years ago
First of all, Wicca came waaay before Catholocism. It's a Pagan religion, and all of those came before the Catholic Church.
Also, I respect your first amendment rights, but please take it somewhere else. Please.
kikyochann 4 years ago 26
why should i take them somewhere else people keep arguing with me so im going to keep explaining to them
trowa202 4 years ago
k shut up. no one cares. your only pissing everyone off. take it somewhere else.
neenuh92 4 years ago 98
kikyochan is right, read text books about it. the reason why the star which symbolises the 5 elements not the devil. and the belif in multipule entities became sinful in western europe was because the christian religion needed ways to convert the people. So they had no tolerence message which helped abolish pagan belifs, and even now people dont know much about it ( thats why now its neo everything bc people make their own versions of it) scientists are still finding new things about hte pagans
sadamitsu 3 years ago 25
no one cares for your beliefs, its a god damn song.
PunkNeko19 3 years ago 64
you actually think all other religions stem from the catholic church???? unbelievable...
TFMahaffers 2 years ago 17
Although I don't think very highly of you, I'm doing my best to respect you. Now in respect of other people who are watching this video, I'm going to stop posting these comments...If you really want to discuss this further, you can send me a message, I won't reply on here any longer.
Sorry to everyone else for posting all these things irrelevant to the video. @.@
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 9
there not irrelevant, if someone was saying they were going to murder someone in a youtube and you said killing is wrong he could say thats irrelevant? being gay bi homo is directly related to the fact that it is wrong and people need to hear about it or else they will continue to live their lives in sin, and despite what your mislead conscience is telling you it is wrong
trowa202 4 years ago
It depends on your religion. Life is to make it what you can. We all turn out different.
PunkNeko19 3 years ago 57
Erinyes is something from Greek mythology, not my name. About me? I'm 19, never went to church regularly and grew up with one rule, the golden rule, "Treat others as you want to be treated". Never smoked, drinked, or had sex. Graduated with 3.9 GPA with many awards and get along with my parents. All my own decisions, no strict rules from authority. Yet, I'm godless, I must be a horrible person.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 7
im not saying your a horrible person im saying you could be a better person and i do treat others like i want to be treated: i want to know when im doing something wrong
trowa202 4 years ago
Umm, if what you're really trying to do is convert us, it'd be a good idea to stop yelling at us and stop calling us stupid. Why should we listen to someone who obviously holds no respect for us? You really aren't accomplishing anything here on Youtube, especially with your attitude, take it somewhere else.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 9
where am i yelling at you? you keep making excuses to get away from the direct truth, i hold much respect for you i hold none for what this song talks about
trowa202 4 years ago
if you care so much about it, then dont listen to the song and quit being an asshole!
PunkNeko19 3 years ago 77
You know, I have a friend who is a full-blast Christian, but I have a lot of respect for her. She tries to get to understand the person and their ways rather than bluntly say, "That's wrong". So, she has some non-heterosexual friends, and although she disagrees with them and makes it known, she respects them and knows when to stop. You could learn a few things from her!
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 8
thats great, would it help if i asked what your name is erin maybe ? well erin see ur friend is right its good to get to know people and if you want to get to know me heres my life story up to now. i was born at st joes hospital in 1994 and grew up in a strong catholic home,i go to parochial school in WI where im an 8th grader,i play many sports- soccer football basketball etc.i luv to read and often read the bible, im now 13 14 in july and thats pretty much it ur turn
trowa202 4 years ago
to make this easy for u guys to understand ill put it like this- what you are going thru is a stage, and if you truly feel like your gay, bi, or tri sexual you are called to live a celebate life, or simply dont have sex, also your parents always love you but when you do things they dont want you to its not because they want to make your life suk its becuz they want to have a better life and in our society little boys who dress like girls and wear earings
trowa202 4 years ago
Obviously your mind is too filled with shit for me to deal with. By the way, it's "purgatory." Stop spelling like a 5-year-old. I'm so done with this.
HadleyArden 4 years ago 12
k well first off im 13 not 5 so spelling idc about anyway, also if my mind is filled with shit whats urs filled with flowers rainbows and butterflys? holy crap dude if ur done with this dont start it. if you want me to go holy on you let me get my CCC otherwise keep ur satanistic ideals to urself
trowa202 4 years ago
All you're trying to do is make yourself look better by putting other people down. I'm pretty sure hubris is some sort of sin too. Once you, oh, hit puberty and make friends with those who are different than you, I want to see if you can still say these ignorant things. From what I heard, Jesus made friends with the "sinners", not bash them, that's why he was so special!
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 11
he did make friends with the sinners but did he go and sin afterward??? i have many different friends from many different places of many different religions and sexual oriantations, and if you think just cause jesus is kind and caring that he accepts it when you sin, he made friends with them he didnt smoke a doobie and call it a day he changed their lives by living by example- im not perfect i dont have complete patience so it may seem im a jackass but look for the truth in what im saying
trowa202 4 years ago
This song gives me goosebumps majorly. I love it.
phantomaddict 4 years ago 7
it sure sounds to me like trowa202 is trying to cover something up...
but hell, if he says it, it must be true XD
edaiss 4 years ago
If you negatively bring in politics or religion into any song, you are wrong. Shut the hell up and let everyone enjoy the music.
Also, if you think God hates homosexuals, you are an ass and very ignorant, not a true Christian at all. Hate to not drop the subject, but I just had to respond to all your assanine comments.
HadleyArden 4 years ago 3
i never once said God hates homosexuals not once, God loves them as much as he loves me and you and the terrorists
trowa202 4 years ago
I love it so...
olivesmilesink 4 years ago
So let me see. This song is about a girl trying to get past people's problems with her "preference" especially her parents? It always makes me cry, mostly because I'm always translating it differently in my head.
olivesmilesink 4 years ago
Ummm, should i be crying? Cuz i am lol
ILuVnElLyFuRtAdO 4 years ago
this is a great song and soooooo beautiful
ILuVnElLyFuRtAdO 4 years ago
i love this song!
and hay people, could you stop talking about religon on here!? take it some where else!
165894 4 years ago 4
trowa thats not true god will forgive any sin if u are truley sorry and want to change
udo5 4 years ago
Then why are there "mortal sins", hm?
blacken00100 4 years ago
Anyone have the words?? I really want to turn this song.
tatsu11111 4 years ago
Does anyone know what version is on the album?
xOneLastLullabyx 4 years ago
thats why i go to reconciliation, im13so i gues i wudnt do stuff like that now, also there r sins that r worse then others, there mortal sins, and venial sins, lying is not as bad as killing someone,venial sin weakens our relationship with God but can be fixed through our own prayers of repentence, mortal sins how ever almost completely destroy our relationship with God and can only be taken care of by receiving absolution from a priest
trowa202 4 years ago
acutally the bible says sex can be for pleasure not just reproduction, and it also says marriage is between one man and one woman, i believe our country was founded on that basis of belief, also our country if you look in the constitution mentions God and rules from the bible of the roman catholic faith so take a look and since youve been reading it all your life you would know that wouldnt you, and yes america is free for religion but morals are the same no matter what
trowa202 4 years ago
i have this!!! but its only 1:34 bad download haha
califsk8ter91 4 years ago
Shut the hell up with the anti-gay and anti-bi comments.
Neondatz 4 years ago 6
Here's some truth for you whiny emo kids, this song means nothing, you're looking for an excuse to feel sad. Get over it kids, smile, the world aint that bad, stop pretending to feel bad because you want to be interesting. This song is catchy but it's tricking you into thinking you're relating, but you only relate because it's generic emo nonsense and you're desperate to validate your emo status. GET OVER IT!
koyw 4 years ago
As a side note, trowa202, you have no right to criticize other people's problems. Not only does it not relate to this song, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying that a guy who killed one person isn't really that bad, because there are people who killed ten people.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 6
he was talking to me and my comment
sorry if it confused you
irockoutloud123 4 years ago
you yourself admitted this is a problem then, and no if thats what you thought that killing 1 person is worse then 10 people you did not interpret it correctly, every life is important but with no one to say it firmly you will go on doing idiotic things like being bisexual, also its my job to worry about other people i am in fact in the military
trowa202 4 years ago
That is not what I was talking about. I was referring to how you scorned other people's problems because there are "worst things". I don't understand why bisexuality bothers you.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago
it bothers me because it is immoral and it helps our country how? not at all. the only reason people are bisexual is for fun and pleasure, a true relationship is about love and also why would God put a man and a woman on the earth? maybe cause their meant for each other. if you dont believe in God then why are monkeys not gay take the binobo for example they have the most intercourse but not with the same sex eh ? the person does not bother me the reasoning does
jptrowa101 4 years ago
I would really love to debate with you further, but I do not like cluttering up this music space with angry words about religion. I do believe in a superior force, I just haven't figured out which religion I believe. It's people like you who make me shy from Christianity.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 7
these are not angry words, it is simply the truth you may be shying away because what you see is the truth and you do not like it
trowa202 4 years ago
You really ought to take your comments elsewhere. Make a post or forum on any random site to continue your arrogant rants. People are hopeful to learn more about the song by looking at these comments, not about religion.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 5
Oh, shut the hell up with all this religion shit.
No one cares.
phantomaddict 4 years ago 18
shut the hell up eh ? so you believe there is a hell- then you must believe there is a heaven and the Roman Catholic Church is the only true way to salvation, not saying salvation cant be achieved outside the church its just a lot harder, also the Church says being bi and gay is wrong, so dude shut the heaven up
trowa202 4 years ago
shut the heaven up =P
pianoplayer1992 4 years ago 22
to: pianoplayer - huh?!?!?
Dhlila 4 years ago
Music and their lyrics mean something different from person to person, and depending on moods. The best song allows this, it doesn't really have a set "meaning". It's cool to see how other people have interpreted and used this song, as long as they're not bashing other people along the way.
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 3
uhmm...i think we should just enjoy the song...not rag on each other....
so uhhhmmm...love the song!
bengrimm321 4 years ago 4
Dude has got a point, music isn't about words and what other people call you, it's about how you feel. That's why the best music would be the best even if the lyrics were totaly random.
realitysucks66 4 years ago 4
music is about the words whether you realize it or not the words get into your head and the more you listen to it the more you think that their point makes sense then the next time someone asks you a question you think well that song made sense and it think that its true so im gonna stick up for it, even though being bi or gay or lesbian is totally and completely immoral
jptrowa101 4 years ago
amen
lizzy101661 4 years ago
the vast likelihood of there actually being anything wrong physically or truly mentally wrong with any of you is slim to none. What we have here is a mental disorder that you all have known as: "Stupid". This is also known as "teenager". being depressed is normal every so often. get over yourselves ppl. i'm sure your parents love you, God knows why.
trowa202 4 years ago
no... you're not bi, what you are is an attention whore. Hows abouts you guys quit being losers. "I relate to this song" omfg, grow up. "I pierced my ear, now my parents dont talk to me WAAAAAAAAAAAA" HOw about you do what your parents say? Maybe then you won't grow up to be a "bisexual" attention whore.
But no, you losers are stuck in your little retarded kid stage. None of you were abused enough when you were little.
trowa202 4 years ago
you may say they arent bi...i am...i know i am becase when i started liking boys i started liking girls...i still do and im not an attention whore...my parents dont even know...my fiends dont either...i was also RAPED...nobody knows that...and i WAS abused so shut up
so you keep what you think to yourself...you are probly WAY off
quietlysweating 4 years ago 8
I agree, trowa202, you should keep that kind of stuff to yourself pleez. and quietlysweating, i'm SO sry about that last part. I personally can't relate, but my mom can, and it hurts me too.
FrayGirl123 4 years ago 7
there are two types of evil people in the world by the way- ones who do evil and ones who let evil happen and not say or do anything being bisexual is evil, immoral, and wrong if your parents raised you otherwise your parents are ignorant, chances are you people are bi for fun, start praying you can change because you will be sadly mistaken some day
trowa202 4 years ago
obviously your parents dont know because they most likely would not accept you being bisexual i apologize if i offended you but think of this are u bisexual because you love a man and a woman or because there fun toys that you can play with and also if you do love another man obviously its immoral and wrong because we reproduce by women not other men
trowa202 4 years ago
WOAH, I NEVER said I was bi, or ANYTHING! I'm totally straight, and I'm a Christian so I don't believe being gay or bi is ok. I'm just saying, that could offend some people by saying that kida stuff. that's all, sry if i offended u. :)
FrayGirl123 4 years ago
np i get kinda into my comments when i see how ignorant people are and then their reasoning for it and i wasnt saying you were bi
jptrowa101 4 years ago
i can relate man my brothers friend molested me when i was 5. Also my parents think im gay BUT I AM NOT GAY!!! I AM PERFECTLY STRAIGHT!!!! im also offended that people always judge people for the stupidest reasons so to it does not matter ur a person, a human being so i think its stupid to judge some1 if they r gay black or anything its just stupid!!! so just keep ur ideas to urself if u think ur gonna offend some1!!!
XxXSTGXxX 4 years ago 2
maybe you shouldn't if posted that on the internet though i do sympathize
sagwa2233 4 years ago
you have issues kid get help
koyw 4 years ago
thats problem its not about offending people who gives a shit, yes ahh dont hurt their feelings they might get sad. come on its not about feelings its about doing whats right im glad you got over being molested thats great i am truly happy for you, but being gay or bi or lesbian as ive said 10 20 30 times is evil and immoral
trowa202 4 years ago
What the fuck is wrong with you, trowa? Don't come and start saying shit about gays and lesbians being "evil and immoral". What is it about their sexual preferences that make it immoral?
Simplicitii 4 years ago 124
because you are bisexual you are now called to live a celebate life, so in the churches eyes you are sinning every time you look lustfully at anyone now.
trowa202 4 years ago
in your religion mit says to treat other the way you want to be treated, you dont see fucking gay ppl beat up straight ppl or lezbos! DONT BRING RELIGION ON YOUTUBE! THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR PREACHING!! OMFG YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE POPE LISTENING TO DEICIDE
ERikH8sU 4 years ago 17
yes it says to treat others the way you want to be treated. whats ur point? im saying that your supposed to live a celebate life now, if u dont want people to preach dont put satan worship on youtube and whats wrong with listening to decide? and the reason you dont hear about gay people beating up straight people is because our government hides it to keep little jimmies feelings from getting hurt
trowa202 4 years ago
bs, ur mean so ur sinning, fuck off!
PunkNeko19 3 years ago 41
You need to stop judging people, and actually get to understand them a little bit better. Maybe then you'll stop making stupid assumptions and comments. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Christians valued the idea of LOVE over anything else?
erinyeseyes 4 years ago 2
very true we do, but dont be mistaken we should feel love towards everyone, but the love a man feels for another man is not and should not be the same as a woman and a man, look in the chatechism of the Church and they are not assumptions again look in the chatechism and think hmm why should i have sex with a man and a women when it only takes one and one woman? HMM think dont speak just ponder
trowa202 4 years ago
im not trying to be some heathen of god or anything i just belive that people should love who they want when they want it religon is not everything you know after all if god didn't want us to be gay or bi he wouldn't have let us have free will and beside god loves us all gay bi or straight i think that if you generally a good person then god would accept you into his kingdom thats why he invented pergatory... duh
califsk8ter91 4 years ago 7
actually God gave us freewill because he loved us enough to let us make our own decisions that in no way shape or form says that we should break the rules of the bible and the catechism im not saying they are bad people and i love them all but what they are doing is wrong and if they continue to do so they have a better chance of going to hell i am not making a judement wether or not they are going to hell but they have a better chance
trowa202 4 years ago
trowa you have no life i mean you just sit here blabbing about religion on youtube! do you seriously think it will make a difference? get off you stpid lazy ass and do something aout yourproblems or just shut the F*** up because your being annoying fringe of a human being to the rest of the human race
califsk8ter91 4 years ago 10
actually first off religion is everywhere and should be used everywhere all the time every minute of every day, secondly just because we have free will does not mean you have the right to misuse it by sinning. and pergatory is not a free pass into the Kingdom of God you cant sin and expect to go to pergatory, if you feel you are gay or bisexual you are called to live a celebate life
trowa202 4 years ago
ya i really relate to this song kinda..my parents are being ignorant cuz i got my ear pierced..they dont accept it...and now they kinda dont talk to me..i just wanna tell them that an earing doesnt changes who i am, or wut i do..
RamiG900 4 years ago 3
true but you broke the fourth commandment, you lost their trust and they will always love you no matter what but they cant trust you enough to show that love otherwise they think that you'll go out and do something stupid again
trowa202 4 years ago
Getting your ear pierced isn't stupid. My family is strictly Christian, yet I have four piercings in my ears. It all depends on what your parents think of it.
LadyBlysse 4 years ago 82
i understand that but doing without your parents permission is wrong and then once they get dissapointed you wonder why and mope around the rest of your freakin life
trowa202 4 years ago
one of their best songs..... awsome lyrics
buteraff 4 years ago 2
the lyrics and her voice are beautifull
midnight022 4 years ago 3
thanks
cainanwiebelover 4 years ago
A relate to this in a way because I forget things easily, my parents tell me I should be in a mentally ill school. It breaks me, I just want to tell her, I don't have a problem, I just forget things. They don't have to ruin my life about it! T.T
cainanwiebelover 4 years ago 6
You shouldn't let them ruin your life. If you know you don't have a problem, then you don't. I also have problems remembering things, but it doesn't hold me back, and I'm sure it doesn't for you as well. Just stay positive. :)
jennehhh 4 years ago 3
Yeah, the doctors told me I have ADD, but the medication just made it worse, and when they ran tests, they discovered I'm not ADD. jeez. What do the doctors really know? :D
FrayGirl123 4 years ago
ya i think we all have a story to tell along with this song
my step mom duznt like me and is alwyas putting me down adn it really hurts whne i can hear her yelling at my sister to not turn out like me
and also my parents thoguth i was mentally depressed so they put me on happy pills which only made me even more depressed adn it turns out theres nuthing wrong!
irockoutloud123 4 years ago 3
a woman who abborts her child thinks she doesnt have a problem but she does, a person who thinks they dont need their meds when they really do has a problem, a person who thinks being bisexual and not listening to your parents has a problem for goodness sakes open your eyes
trowa202 4 years ago
dis song rox
treesnapplejuice 4 years ago 3
Music is expression. I beg to differ that it's "just words." Music can be whatever you want to make of it, and it'll affect people differently depending on their frame of mind. You can't classify it as "this" or as "that." Adios.
ichujini 4 years ago 9
omygawd this reminds meh of my dad.he doesnt accept me and wont let me listen to my music when im around him.he wanted a boy and im a girl.he wanted a girly girl and im not.gawd
screaming1forever 4 years ago
theres nothing wrong with figuring out what a song means. Its really only human nature. And were not fighting over it, were giving our thoughts on what we think, were not saying any one of our opinions are right. If you don't think about a song.. then isnt it just words?
Deidara7899 4 years ago 8
Wow, Deidara, we should talk. I'm a composer and I could argue on SO many levels how a song is more than "just words". On one of those levels, however, I agree with you 100%. Music is a form of poetry, afterall. I support your comment entirly. My studies say that music is one million things. But my heart echoes what you say. Thankyou, I bow to you.
Yugatoran 4 years ago 2
Mmmm, how 'bout you all shush up about 'what the song is about'. Because, unless you wrote it, you do not know. So stop your lame-ass fighting.
andersonmelanie 4 years ago
this probly is about her being a lesbian.
I can relate to it, im a guy but im bi.
and my parents call me a freak.
and want to know whats wrong with me.
its hard. its not a joke.
iwalkwithshadows85 4 years ago
Thats soooo sad!! People should be nice and care. Nothing is wrong with you, people are all different, and it doesn't matter what sexual orientation anyone is. It just means your attracted to others than usually, it is life, and lots of people are gay bi or lesbian were all humans and we all have feelings personalities. Its just that are hormones are different, and thats just how people are not screwed up. I'm a girl and I'm Bi.
PunkNeko19 4 years ago 4
its not somedays i try to lie you dunmbas its sunady i cried allight and it hurt so bad
retard D<
12hamiar 4 years ago
oh i think i forgot to mention... this song is awesome ^.^
Deidara7899 4 years ago
when she says "im curious" it does NOT mean shes gay, it means shes wondering if her dad thinks shes crazy or not. And even if that was the point, theres no shame in being gay. I personally think its about being hurt so much that you dont know who to love.
Deidara7899 4 years ago 14
Aw.
That's a very supportable theory. I like it.
kikyochann 4 years ago
Mkay.
NewPhantom9399 4 years ago
This song is just like my life....
HTperson 4 years ago 2
Cheer up.
kikyochann 4 years ago
gay or not shes preeeeeeettttty
gingercatong 4 years ago 4
yeah i really think this is about telling your parents your gay or something. Good lyrics. Great song.
1mmbop 4 years ago
uh that rest is totally speechless
PlanetEclipse07 4 years ago
I love this song. My faovrite one on the album. It's greattt.
Miss31494Malice 4 years ago
I love this song so much!
0Emily7Strange0 4 years ago
Whether she's lesbian or not, why does it matter to you? o_O She's still a great singer.
tokyoxterror 4 years ago 9
because i can relate to her. And im very passionate about this subject so forgive me.
omitakura 4 years ago
its true she really is a lesbian. Le Disko has refrences to he sexuality in it aswell. this is is just screaming that she is gay. there is nothing wrong with being gay. and if u religous folks out there do dont say anything or your going to hell just like us (us being gays). Read the bible you'll find out you must love your brother no matter what! dont be a hipacrit.
omitakura 4 years ago
who rly cares it is her business not urs
darkheartz666 4 years ago 4
actually, i don't think that's all true. i have the CD and she didn't write any of the songs...
"somedays i try to lie" isn't even a lyric in the song
disposiblexme 4 years ago 3
really shes a lesbian???
PunkNeko19 4 years ago
the singer of this band is gay.
thats what the song is about.
she came out to her parents
and they think shes like crazy
and needs help
"somedays i try to lie"-she hides that she is gay to make them happy
color coated sweetness, swords between my clean dress- thats her hiding her secret and her pain the swords being all the pain and everything and the clean dress is her fake mask
get it?
buryxyourxdeadxx 4 years ago
Mhm.
I understand now, thanks. :]
kikyochann 4 years ago
yea? and where did you get this information? cause "somedays i try to lie" isnt even in the song...
omgzzgmo 4 years ago
"sunday i cried all night" is the lyric.
pineapplekitkat 4 years ago 3
yea. those are the lyrics. not 'somedays i try to lie' like buryxyourxdeadxx said earlyer.
i personally dont care if she's gay or not cause its none of our buisness. im just tired of people making up things about other people or celebrities when they dont even have any proof of it >.<
omgzzgmo 4 years ago 9
hear hear.
pineapplekitkat 4 years ago
i really like dis song..prbly one of my fav from all of shiny toy guns tracks... :)
RamiG900 4 years ago
Me too x)
kikyochann 4 years ago
:) tight tight tight
ByMyBullets 4 years ago
This song is not about depression, it is about asking for acceptance, asking why people push other people away from themselves. It is saying "I'm not changing, and you should accept me for who I am." But the singer has also tried to belong, hence the line "Because I want you to be proud of me."
BCarey2293 4 years ago 2
Very true, very true. It's part of the reason why this is my favorite song of theirs. It's not your run-of-the-mill song, is it?
kikyochann 4 years ago
thanks for making this vid..now we can find the song! :)
rockvengence 4 years ago
You're welcome :DDDD
xD
kikyochann 4 years ago
that chicks hot
Mikeooch 4 years ago
this song is bad ass whin your soccer game is going to start and your listining to it
Mikeooch 4 years ago
this is song is about depressed ppl u know that right?
manning180 4 years ago
no I didn't. But I like the song, the melody. Its cool!
PunkNeko19 4 years ago
yea ur right
manning180 4 years ago
thanks!=) and you too
PunkNeko19 4 years ago
no. its not about depression. its asking for acceptance, not about how depressed anyone is. and if it was, what would it matter?
omgzzgmo 4 years ago
Got to love this song. Thanks for putting it up. Because I was right there with you in not being able to find it on here.
NiaNamora 4 years ago
this made me cry
T^T
blackout156 4 years ago
I -need- this album. :O
TiaanaLuna 4 years ago
Thanks a bunch, I can't find this song anywhere either, and I'm too poor to buy the CD right now :) But I love this song!
ejtoday 4 years ago
haha! cool
PunkNeko19 4 years ago
perfect
DrumsoloRyan 4 years ago