i must say i'm an outraged by all the gay coupling going on in this clip. i was so enraged that i watched this clip several times to make sure of what i was seeing and then i watched it several more times to be sue that i had seen what i thought i saw. it was awful. my whole body began to perspire and parts of me began to stiffen with rage. i was positively oozing anger as i watched this outrageous episode. i mean outrageous. i want to know who is responsible for this. his azz is mine.
So I just watched both parts and they were actually REALLY good!! The production was amazing, storyline felt true to the original series, and I find myself really liking the characters! I am impressed, and think i'll be checking out the other episodes of Phase II.
WTF is this? if its indi the production is top notch, but the acting could really use an upgrade. gay characters are just fine but the whole "Kirk's nephew" smacks of fantacy fullfilment" which in turn gives it a porn feel. keep at it i think your on to somthing here.
I'm laughing so hard it hurts! Love this spoof. Thank you for uploading. Great production with some of the worse acting ever. Raspberry awards to all of the crew. :)
I am part of the crew of Retro Film Studios. We did not make a "gay" episode of Star Trek. We made an great episode of Star Trek which happens to have gay relationship as part of the story line. Hopefully in the future, books, movies and TV episodes can be judged on the merits of the story and not just in the sexuality of its characters.
Well, I expect gay people to be whole heartedly accepted by everyone with equal rights granted in every way by the time we've advanced to traveling in space...
@Brownlyne Thank you. I have always been swept away by the Star Trek Universe. I never cared much for Star Wars (too juvenile), but I'm nuts about Heinlein, Bradbury, and Asimov, Babylon 5, Buck Rogers in the 25th century (especially Erin Gray), and all Battlestar Galacticas. How can I help but wax poetic about these masterpieces of speculation?
You and your crew will enjoy the deep Trekness-Roddenberry-fueled right the politically incorrect and moral wrongs of the universe up to the limits of the Prime Directive. This is the continuing Roddenberry vision of the original Trekiverse, and not to be gazed upon by the faint of Trekheart. This is manna for the Children of the Stars.
Amazing for 'just' a fan based production. I love the dry humor in this series and YES its not PG rated, swear away boys! To bad some of them act worse then the avarage porn star....
this episode was GREAT. i haven't seen this show in a while, but you guys have really stepped up the production values, the acting, the storytelling. and the visual effects are -- i dare say -- better than those "remastered" TOS episodes. cudos all around. you have a fan for life.
I think there being a gay couple would have worked a lot better if they had held to the same standards that all relationships had in the original series. I mean... you wouldn't have seen Kirk laying on top of a woman. Sure kissing. Yeah you'd see him pulling his boots back on the morning after... but... I dunno. Making it so physically intimate, while I find it adorable, doesn't really fit into the whole "Star Trek The Original Series" thing they're going for, gay OR straight.
Imagine being so lonely, pathetic and desperate for attention that you troll the posts on a Star Trek video on youtube to spew anti-gay BS?! That's one sad and miserable life!!
I actually am really enjoying this series. But then, I was never a hard core fan of the original Star Trek, I just started getting into it. But the storytelling on this show is ace.
"Blood and Fire" is an episode written by David Gerrold for possible use on Star Trek: The Next Generation. The script was commissioned and written, but never actually filmed because certain studio executives had a negative reaction to its positive depiction of an openly gay couple. It was eventually adapted by Gerrold into a standalone novel
With Gerrold's permission, Carlos Pedraza rewrote Blood and Fire for the fan series Star Trek: New Voyages. [1] Gerrold did a final draft polish (possibly to expand the gay relationship to something more than a hint) and also directed the episode. The episode has come under fire for showing the two crewmembers sharing an extended, open-mouthed kiss while in bed together in their quarters.[2] (Star Trek: New Voyages.) is a web. only fan produced series
I swear the klingons are the "Enterprise Killer." Think about it, both Enterprises (Refit and D) were destroyed by the klingons and Enterprise - A was badly damaged and now this. Lets face it people Enterprise< Klingons.
Ok, putting aside the whole gay thing- which was done pretty well, except they would never have that much on a normal star trek episode, I really don't like the new Spock and just the beginning of the episode was really bad... If it weren't for the last episode which showed how much potential this has, I would stop watching right now..
If it is no big deal then let people have there say and leave. If somebody told me its wrong to like a woman because im a man. I would just nod and keep going on with life. It would not bother me because what they are saying is ridiculous.
@MrHighlyLogical I think you should read articles like this : Same Sex Couples Common in the Wild by Clara Moskowitz. You would learn that homosexuality is rampant throughout the animal kingdom and is far from being a specificity of human perversion. And Alexander the Great or Roman emperor Hadrian were not exactly what one might call effeminate pussies either! Things are not as black and white as many people would like them to be!
What are they doing? They had something until this episode. Def not watching anymore episodes..... I'm pretty sure any straight dudes don't want to see other dudes kissing. Cmon. Same reason i stopped watching Caprica and SGU. And what do you know they both got cancelled. I wonder why lol.
@juse33 What a hateful person!! I am soo glad I am not you!! I have a gay cousin, whom I am very proud of, and love many gay artists, it is sad that you don't have a nice bone in your body! Where is your heart!!
@Saralv Why does what he said mean hate?? he simply said he was straight and it disgusted him to see two guys kissing. How is that wrong? Everyone knows two guys together is strange to say the least. Any straight man is gonna think the same way. They will never understand because they dont have a desire for men. Which is right because after all, they are men lol.
If there was nothing strange about it then when comedians make fun of gay people it would not be funny. But instead it makes us laugh because its just weird. I mean when i first learned of the idea of gay people. I thought it was a complete joke. It seems anything that is moral is becoming a bad thing. Anyone who stands up for family values is labeled a bigot, hater, or homophobic.
People use these words to make themselves feel like they are not doing anything wrong. Instead it makes them look hateful.
Just face it we humans are weird. Look how sick we can be. I mean there are people out there who actually want to marry animals and have sex with children and they think its ok. There are people who enjoy eating crap. There are so many perversions in this world. Being gay isnt any different. Just admit it we are a freaky race lol.
Ah, yes. The good ol' "Let's equate pedophilia/coprophilia/[insert paraphilia here] to same-sex relationships" argument. I will easily agree the sexuality is a tad overdone in this segment, possibly to make a point, or possibly because of an unsteady director's hand. Either way, please don't fall into the trap of linking kissing between two people who happen to be male and eating feces. It's disingenuous at best and dishonest at worst.
They dont understand why gays are forcing there sexual perversions on the rest of us. If you like guys fine.
Now thats not hate. That is a simple observation of life. I gotta say though. People who are in the wrong always get so upset when someone speaks against what they are doing. And they are quick to respond with words like Bigot, Hateful, Homophobe and whatever name that they can come up with.
The only way you can hate another person is to dehumanize them by making them an object. It is very difficult to hate someone when you step outside your prejudices, outside of your narrow mind and see them as human beings, see their humanity.
I'm fine with gay characters, but I can't recall ANY episode of ANY Star Trek series where one character has his/her ass up, and another character jumps on top, gay or straight.
@skeetabyte01 Well, remember the decades have changed since most of Star Trek has been done.
These guys were both dressed, but my first reaction was also a little apprehension.
But remember Kirk was taking interstellar relations to a pretty high level too in the 60s... he seemed to be making out with a new species most weeks. I would think that's riskier behaviour.
Originally a two-part story draft for Star Trek: Phase II in 1977, it was rewritten into a one part episode for this production. A good deal of the episode takes place on Qo'nos, the Klingon homeworld: which was shot on location at Fort Ticonderoga, NY, and at a local restaurant. Members of the International Klingon Federation helped out with the location shoots.
I think they should also recognize Lucy Ball as the "Mother of Star Trek" as ST:TOS was produced by Desilu Studios, and Ms. Ball was the one who gave the green light for the show. If not the mother, as least "Midwife" or "Grandmother". Some sort of recognition.
@hunkymunky008 No, just don't fall in love with a coworker in a job that will probably end up with one of you getting killed in a hostile environment, particularly if both of you are minor characters, and doing so would only lead to further character development of the surviving member of the pair.
I had heard so much about this episode, and was looking forward to watching it. Under normal circumstances, I would've thought the ending very appropriate, but one week before I finally found the episode, I lost my long-time lover to the AIDS virus. It hit a little too close to home, but otherwise I actually enjoyed the episode. He was a huge Trekkie... I just wish he'd been alive long enough to see it.
@3dartistguy Well... to answer your question to the best of my abilities, I offer you this: This is a fan made episode...there ya go. That's all i got.
Getting back to the teaser, the drama of the main plot was the heavily damaged Enterprise was in constant danger of being attacked by the Klingons that were patrolling the sector. Combined with the hype of a "new" Phase II look for the Enterprise in subsequent eps., I was expecting Commander Kharg to attack the Enterprise, damaging it further, to justify a refit to the Phase II look. The ending I saw was weak.
The best part of the entire episode--and it was a two-parter--was the teaser. I'll refrain from commenting on the "in your face" gay scenes, but I'll simply say it wasn't something I wanted to see twice.
@basherman69 if it were a scene between a man and a woman would you have described it as "in your face"??
Do you get it yet? Heterosexual "in your face" is all we've had to look at forever. Now we begin to get just a little bit of air time and airheads like you complain that it's "in your face."
You've got a problem bud--and it isn't just your homophobia. Time to outgrow it.
@dannyb510 All I said was i didn't want to see it twice, and it was "in your face." If I don't wish to see man on man action, that is my prerogative. I should not be forced to accept an agenda that isn't accepted by the mainstream. I did not insult the gay lifestyle--at least I didn't directly negatively critique it. The problem with people like you is you try to force us all into your collective, and when there is any resistance by anyone, they are insulted and dragged through the mud.
@dannyb510 Simply put, I don't think I'm the one who needs to "outgrow" it. If I don't follow your lifestyle belief system, respect it, or at least, put your hatred aside. Proponents of alternative lifestyles are not going to convince anyone to join their side or, at least, tolerate their beliefs if they are going to call their opposition names.
@basherman69 Hi. I just wanted to point out something. Clearly, you're not interested in gay people at all so why come to a video with gay in the title? You claim that this is forced upon you yet this clip had to be chosen for you to see it. The title would imply that at some point something that a person such a yourself would find objectionable may happen, so if wish to avoid it why choose to watch it. Most illogical.
I am completely in love with this story. I'm a huge fan of TOS and this is just too perfect :) I really hope to see the other episodes soon. Thank you so much for posting this.
The technical quality of this production--or should I say re-production?--is extraordinary! This is fit for broadcast, or at least would have been fit. Congratulations to the team for its dedicated efforts. I hope you will consider using the set and props to create new episodes for YouTube Star Trek fans.
i must say i'm an outraged by all the gay coupling going on in this clip. i was so enraged that i watched this clip several times to make sure of what i was seeing and then i watched it several more times to be sue that i had seen what i thought i saw. it was awful. my whole body began to perspire and parts of me began to stiffen with rage. i was positively oozing anger as i watched this outrageous episode. i mean outrageous. i want to know who is responsible for this. his azz is mine.
petercox9 4 days ago
@petercox9
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Michael123BooDog2 4 days ago
The actor playing Checkov in this episode MUST be Walter Koenig's long lost clone! :)
clay56 1 week ago
So I just watched both parts and they were actually REALLY good!! The production was amazing, storyline felt true to the original series, and I find myself really liking the characters! I am impressed, and think i'll be checking out the other episodes of Phase II.
JBonds17 2 weeks ago
Ok, so for every out there here for the gay bits, it starts here 7:53
XxTheStealthyClownxX 2 weeks ago
WTF is this? if its indi the production is top notch, but the acting could really use an upgrade. gay characters are just fine but the whole "Kirk's nephew" smacks of fantacy fullfilment" which in turn gives it a porn feel. keep at it i think your on to somthing here.
TOTALCONTROL871 2 weeks ago
I'm only watching this for the gay bits. ;)
cheeseisniceable 1 month ago 4
@cheeseisniceable
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Here is a bit of gay for you.
Seems the closer we get physically to heaven
( like in space ships ) the more people understand that the place is for everyone.
( if your religious, I’m not ) but its still a fun thought.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 month ago 3
i like it when he lay on peter's butt first :)
cartoonlover89 1 month ago
Hot hot hot
GAYFEVER100 1 month ago
I'm laughing so hard it hurts! Love this spoof. Thank you for uploading. Great production with some of the worse acting ever. Raspberry awards to all of the crew. :)
danielbwinn 1 month ago
ohh I looooove the eye contact at the end! they are beautiful.
topiaycat 1 month ago
Is this real?
And why the HELL haven't I seen this before.
It's sooo hot!
twinkie13st 2 months ago
I am part of the crew of Retro Film Studios. We did not make a "gay" episode of Star Trek. We made an great episode of Star Trek which happens to have gay relationship as part of the story line. Hopefully in the future, books, movies and TV episodes can be judged on the merits of the story and not just in the sexuality of its characters.
tlm101155 2 months ago 22
Ahaaaa "How can it be worse? You just wanted to take my shirt off." I love these two XD
musicandbarbies101 2 months ago
Well, I expect gay people to be whole heartedly accepted by everyone with equal rights granted in every way by the time we've advanced to traveling in space...
Suwai0303 2 months ago 2
Freshlinens...I kno I saw I don kno wat happen I was just on somethin...doin tht shitt to every video I saw...I was out if it
MsGangstalova 3 months ago
Wat?????????u don't get me????nvm!!???
MsGangstalova 3 months ago
@MsGangstalova
there's 11 parts this is just part one of the 11...
Freshlinens 3 months ago
Mann if u gonna have 1 out of 11 u better have them all not just one!!!
MsGangstalova 3 months ago
@MsGangstalova
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Michael123BooDog2 3 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2 Do you have the other parts ?
Ladislavcvetko 1 month ago
@Ladislavcvetko
Part 2 is a video attachment here on part 1, and part 3 is attached to part 2 and so on.
Or you can go to my channel and find them all together in one playlist.
Sincerely
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 month ago
@Michael123BooDog2 Thanks
Ladislavcvetko 1 month ago
It's a movies series I guess you would call it.
BriarRose2468 3 months ago
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Is this a movie or a t.v show
zackory111 3 months ago
Is this a movie or a t.v show
zackory111 3 months ago
Who got on top of who? Did the red shirt guy get on top of the blue shirt guy? Or did the blue shirt guy get on top of red shirt guy?
zackory111 3 months ago
@zackory111
I would like to think they each had a bit of loving from top to bottom
];-)
Sincerely
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 3 months ago
This is the best Star Trek episode ever.The actor portraying Freeman is excellent not to mention beautiful.
Bloom5000 3 months ago
Long live the King and Queen of Star Trek!!!
localfive0 3 months ago
Awesome!
Adventuredude2 4 months ago
Gays in Space is way better than this!
aexxxon 4 months ago
Where no gay has gone before...
ecramcenpes 4 months ago 25
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Michael123BooDog2 4 months ago 7
@ecramcenpes your funny as hell.
buffyslayer30 4 months ago
Come see my hot new video: I hate bigots,...but I'm not racist!!
ThomasTheAlleyCat 4 months ago
@Brownlyne Thank you. I have always been swept away by the Star Trek Universe. I never cared much for Star Wars (too juvenile), but I'm nuts about Heinlein, Bradbury, and Asimov, Babylon 5, Buck Rogers in the 25th century (especially Erin Gray), and all Battlestar Galacticas. How can I help but wax poetic about these masterpieces of speculation?
LibertyLivery 4 months ago
i loved it
kahyara 5 months ago
Woah, that bed looks hard at 7:42! I'm in pain just watching that.
firmingitup 5 months ago
Is this really on START TREK??!
LightofTrance 5 months ago
You and your crew will enjoy the deep Trekness-Roddenberry-fueled right the politically incorrect and moral wrongs of the universe up to the limits of the Prime Directive. This is the continuing Roddenberry vision of the original Trekiverse, and not to be gazed upon by the faint of Trekheart. This is manna for the Children of the Stars.
LibertyLivery 5 months ago
@LibertyLivery
??????
];-(
Michael123BooDog2 5 months ago
@LibertyLivery Well said. Are you a writer, a bard? :)
Brownlyne 4 months ago
0:12 haha, Majel is Boldly Going ... to get Eaten By Worms :D
plotchickens 5 months ago
Amazing for 'just' a fan based production. I love the dry humor in this series and YES its not PG rated, swear away boys! To bad some of them act worse then the avarage porn star....
PraetoriaxNL 5 months ago
Gay Star Trek? MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!!!!! <3 <3 <3
DaveyH75 5 months ago
As a gay trek fan I thank you for making this!
sothatsthemonster 5 months ago
wow. such horrible acting!!!!!!!!!!! but I like to story.
essentialXOX 6 months ago
this episode was GREAT. i haven't seen this show in a while, but you guys have really stepped up the production values, the acting, the storytelling. and the visual effects are -- i dare say -- better than those "remastered" TOS episodes. cudos all around. you have a fan for life.
leofilm 6 months ago
Wait wait wait, the title should be Lower Decks!
Bardlettt 7 months ago
Hello. I am a Vulcan. You know because I talk like a robot.
Bardlettt 7 months ago
the stage craft, story, and graphics is impressive.. the acting well its a step above bad but not anything to brag about.
Davonskevort 7 months ago
I think there being a gay couple would have worked a lot better if they had held to the same standards that all relationships had in the original series. I mean... you wouldn't have seen Kirk laying on top of a woman. Sure kissing. Yeah you'd see him pulling his boots back on the morning after... but... I dunno. Making it so physically intimate, while I find it adorable, doesn't really fit into the whole "Star Trek The Original Series" thing they're going for, gay OR straight.
SuperDuckyWho 7 months ago
Imagine being so lonely, pathetic and desperate for attention that you troll the posts on a Star Trek video on youtube to spew anti-gay BS?! That's one sad and miserable life!!
mtlgreen 7 months ago 3
OMG this is awesome!!!!!
mtlgreen 7 months ago
Why are they fighting an updated D7 cruiser, and not one of the original ones?
Quisquellano26 7 months ago
hehehe..Mr. Spock looks kinda dopey .... but that junior Mr. Spock sure is a cutie ;)
siistud 8 months ago
@siistud
Not only that, but he would sure love it if you could find time to give him a ear massage.
( the Junior Spock that is ).
];-)
Your friend.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 8 months ago 3
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siistud 8 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2
haha...oh ye!... i could massage those ears all day .... if he keeps doing that eyebrow raising thing and says " hmm...that feels so logical" :p
siistud 8 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2 Why did you get someone whose so cute to play him >_>
MetalPharoah 4 months ago
@MetalPharoah
I’m sure he would thank you for your nice
and very perceptive comment.
Sorry I had nothing to do with the creation of this Web episode,
I am just able to upload-(with no copyright restrictions) for all to enjoy.
…
Sincerely.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 4 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2 It's distracting when there is someone that beautiful on a show xD
MetalPharoah 4 months ago
@MetalPharoah
Good thing You-Tube videos have a pause ability !
];-)
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Sincerely.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 4 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2 I agree ;D I'd like to ask him on a date :P
MetalPharoah 4 months ago
@MetalPharoah
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Michael123BooDog2 4 months ago
@Michael123BooDog2 I wish I could ask him out :'(
MetalPharoah 4 months ago
That is one not-hot overall.....
himynameisemilie 8 months ago
Oh man this is bad acting, just cheesy...I LOVE IT!!!
boyglitter 8 months ago
i can't watch this ridiculously horrible acting without laughing.
AllieCat666 8 months ago
The general all-over lighting on the Enterprise seems to have gone down.
Draknfyre 9 months ago
I actually am really enjoying this series. But then, I was never a hard core fan of the original Star Trek, I just started getting into it. But the storytelling on this show is ace.
SeeThinkFall 9 months ago 5
@SeeThinkFall
Glad you like it.
Equal Rights for all Astronauts.
Sincerely.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 9 months ago 11
what star trek series is this? is it the actual star trek enterprise or another one?
DicingWithDestiny 9 months ago
@DicingWithDestiny
"Blood and Fire" is an episode written by David Gerrold for possible use on Star Trek: The Next Generation. The script was commissioned and written, but never actually filmed because certain studio executives had a negative reaction to its positive depiction of an openly gay couple. It was eventually adapted by Gerrold into a standalone novel
Michael123BooDog2 9 months ago
@DicingWithDestiny
With Gerrold's permission, Carlos Pedraza rewrote Blood and Fire for the fan series Star Trek: New Voyages. [1] Gerrold did a final draft polish (possibly to expand the gay relationship to something more than a hint) and also directed the episode. The episode has come under fire for showing the two crewmembers sharing an extended, open-mouthed kiss while in bed together in their quarters.[2] (Star Trek: New Voyages.) is a web. only fan produced series
Michael123BooDog2 9 months ago
Wow, is this episode, bad, or is it bad, The whole Gay thing doesn't work, Mr Chekhov's moose cow and the new Mr spock, absolutely shit!
CaptainJahangir99 9 months ago
@CaptainJahangir99
Sorry no refunds, no matter how many times you had to watch it to make sure how bad it is.
};-)
Sincerely.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 9 months ago 9
Great work guys-admirable. I really am impressed with the way these have all come together. Thanks for all your hard work.
MLKKAEFEnterprises 10 months ago
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I swear the klingons are the "Enterprise Killer." Think about it, both Enterprises (Refit and D) were destroyed by the klingons and Enterprise - A was badly damaged and now this. Lets face it people Enterprise< Klingons.
BTW: Nice Captain Variant. I WANT ONE!!!
Joeyran1819 10 months ago
OMG!! That was frigging awesome!
15taileddemonwolfIta 10 months ago
The way Star Trek should have been...excellent job to all..Paramount owes you guys some BIG bucks!
SeattleRexx 10 months ago
Ok, putting aside the whole gay thing- which was done pretty well, except they would never have that much on a normal star trek episode, I really don't like the new Spock and just the beginning of the episode was really bad... If it weren't for the last episode which showed how much potential this has, I would stop watching right now..
nefertiri12 10 months ago
@nefertiri12
Sorry, No Refunds.
Sincerely.
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 10 months ago
If it is no big deal then let people have there say and leave. If somebody told me its wrong to like a woman because im a man. I would just nod and keep going on with life. It would not bother me because what they are saying is ridiculous.
Anyways peace and long life.
Sorry for long post
MrHighlyLogical 11 months ago
@MrHighlyLogical I think you should read articles like this : Same Sex Couples Common in the Wild by Clara Moskowitz. You would learn that homosexuality is rampant throughout the animal kingdom and is far from being a specificity of human perversion. And Alexander the Great or Roman emperor Hadrian were not exactly what one might call effeminate pussies either! Things are not as black and white as many people would like them to be!
soyonzen 8 months ago
What are they doing? They had something until this episode. Def not watching anymore episodes..... I'm pretty sure any straight dudes don't want to see other dudes kissing. Cmon. Same reason i stopped watching Caprica and SGU. And what do you know they both got cancelled. I wonder why lol.
juse33 11 months ago
@juse33 What a hateful person!! I am soo glad I am not you!! I have a gay cousin, whom I am very proud of, and love many gay artists, it is sad that you don't have a nice bone in your body! Where is your heart!!
Saralv 11 months ago
@Saralv Why does what he said mean hate?? he simply said he was straight and it disgusted him to see two guys kissing. How is that wrong? Everyone knows two guys together is strange to say the least. Any straight man is gonna think the same way. They will never understand because they dont have a desire for men. Which is right because after all, they are men lol.
MrHighlyLogical 11 months ago
@MrHighlyLogical
Hm . . . I guess your definition of "everyone" and mine are quite different. =)
Ansset76 8 months ago
If there was nothing strange about it then when comedians make fun of gay people it would not be funny. But instead it makes us laugh because its just weird. I mean when i first learned of the idea of gay people. I thought it was a complete joke. It seems anything that is moral is becoming a bad thing. Anyone who stands up for family values is labeled a bigot, hater, or homophobic.
MrHighlyLogical 11 months ago
People use these words to make themselves feel like they are not doing anything wrong. Instead it makes them look hateful.
Just face it we humans are weird. Look how sick we can be. I mean there are people out there who actually want to marry animals and have sex with children and they think its ok. There are people who enjoy eating crap. There are so many perversions in this world. Being gay isnt any different. Just admit it we are a freaky race lol.
MrHighlyLogical 11 months ago
@MrHighlyLogical
Ah, yes. The good ol' "Let's equate pedophilia/coprophilia/[insert paraphilia here] to same-sex relationships" argument. I will easily agree the sexuality is a tad overdone in this segment, possibly to make a point, or possibly because of an unsteady director's hand. Either way, please don't fall into the trap of linking kissing between two people who happen to be male and eating feces. It's disingenuous at best and dishonest at worst.
Pax.
Ansset76 8 months ago
They dont understand why gays are forcing there sexual perversions on the rest of us. If you like guys fine.
Now thats not hate. That is a simple observation of life. I gotta say though. People who are in the wrong always get so upset when someone speaks against what they are doing. And they are quick to respond with words like Bigot, Hateful, Homophobe and whatever name that they can come up with.
MrHighlyLogical 11 months ago
Absolutely love this.
PlatinumxAlchemist 11 months ago
I know Gerrold always wanted to do a scene like this...but why, oh why couldn't it be 2 smoking hot space babes instead? Sad evilmike is sad...:(
Evilmike42 11 months ago
I think you for your nice comment.
I will just say….
This is a WEB. Only production so it is not bound by any broadcast rules.
Again, thanks for watching and for your comment.
Your friend...
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 11 months ago 2
i LOVE that they have gay characters on star trek... it's about time! but that scene seemed kinda pornish. :P
SpoiledLogic 11 months ago
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shenadoa 11 months ago
Every NBC affiliate in the South just blacked out, and went to reruns of "I Love Lucy".
Teflon65 11 months ago
Soft-core gay porn is Star Trek? Really?
I'm fine with gay characters, but I can't recall ANY episode of ANY Star Trek series where one character has his/her ass up, and another character jumps on top, gay or straight.
Great production values! Crap everything else.
skeetabyte01 1 year ago
@skeetabyte01 Well, remember the decades have changed since most of Star Trek has been done.
These guys were both dressed, but my first reaction was also a little apprehension.
But remember Kirk was taking interstellar relations to a pretty high level too in the 60s... he seemed to be making out with a new species most weeks. I would think that's riskier behaviour.
workstrength 1 year ago
@Michael123BooDog2 yep ok thanks
Blades4TheUnspoiled 1 year ago
When will Kitumba be available online? Does anyone know?
Taopuppy 1 year ago
@Taopuppy
Kitumba
Originally a two-part story draft for Star Trek: Phase II in 1977, it was rewritten into a one part episode for this production. A good deal of the episode takes place on Qo'nos, the Klingon homeworld: which was shot on location at Fort Ticonderoga, NY, and at a local restaurant. Members of the International Klingon Federation helped out with the location shoots.
I heard it ( MIGHT ) be this month .
Will post it here once I get it.
Michael123BooDog2 11 months ago
It's great to see that the nostalgia of the original series can be seen in 2008!
UFOGEAR 1 year ago
@Gnickk
Some day we will know how it feels to be equal,
But not yet, as this version of Star Trek was made for the internet only, and has never shown on TV.
But that day is coming soon.
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Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 year ago
I think they should also recognize Lucy Ball as the "Mother of Star Trek" as ST:TOS was produced by Desilu Studios, and Ms. Ball was the one who gave the green light for the show. If not the mother, as least "Midwife" or "Grandmother". Some sort of recognition.
Taopuppy 1 year ago 5
@Taopuppy
I cant speak for others, but I will say…
( I Love Lucy )
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Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 year ago
@hunkymunky008 No, just don't fall in love with a coworker in a job that will probably end up with one of you getting killed in a hostile environment, particularly if both of you are minor characters, and doing so would only lead to further character development of the surviving member of the pair.
erikdraven1731 1 year ago
not moose, cow.... lol love u Pavel!
chekovfangirl 1 year ago 2
I had heard so much about this episode, and was looking forward to watching it. Under normal circumstances, I would've thought the ending very appropriate, but one week before I finally found the episode, I lost my long-time lover to the AIDS virus. It hit a little too close to home, but otherwise I actually enjoyed the episode. He was a huge Trekkie... I just wish he'd been alive long enough to see it.
erikdraven1731 1 year ago 2
@erikdraven1731
I’m sorry for your loss.
I have lost a lot of my long time friends to AIDs.
Luckily not a partner.
Some memories are hard, however I do believe they are important to hold on to.
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Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 year ago
Chrolli love story
You Tube clip with the title:
Christian & Oliver 04.04.08 English Subtitles Part 45
Rumake 1 year ago 3
I LOVED WATCHING THE ORIGINAL STAR TREK. THIS IS VERY WEIRD FOR ME
nati4642478 1 year ago
@3dartistguy Well... to answer your question to the best of my abilities, I offer you this: This is a fan made episode...there ya go. That's all i got.
Furriesaremine 1 year ago
Holy guacamole!!!!! There's gays on the Enterprise! I am loving this!
luis6079 1 year ago
I think they should done this instead of ST:Enterprise....
kallistiX1 1 year ago
awwww they are sooo cute together!
inuman420 1 year ago
Why couldn't it end happily? :(...
Sareth740 1 year ago
Getting back to the teaser, the drama of the main plot was the heavily damaged Enterprise was in constant danger of being attacked by the Klingons that were patrolling the sector. Combined with the hype of a "new" Phase II look for the Enterprise in subsequent eps., I was expecting Commander Kharg to attack the Enterprise, damaging it further, to justify a refit to the Phase II look. The ending I saw was weak.
basherman69 1 year ago
The best part of the entire episode--and it was a two-parter--was the teaser. I'll refrain from commenting on the "in your face" gay scenes, but I'll simply say it wasn't something I wanted to see twice.
basherman69 1 year ago
@basherman69 if it were a scene between a man and a woman would you have described it as "in your face"??
Do you get it yet? Heterosexual "in your face" is all we've had to look at forever. Now we begin to get just a little bit of air time and airheads like you complain that it's "in your face."
You've got a problem bud--and it isn't just your homophobia. Time to outgrow it.
dannyb510 1 year ago 5
@dannyb510 All I said was i didn't want to see it twice, and it was "in your face." If I don't wish to see man on man action, that is my prerogative. I should not be forced to accept an agenda that isn't accepted by the mainstream. I did not insult the gay lifestyle--at least I didn't directly negatively critique it. The problem with people like you is you try to force us all into your collective, and when there is any resistance by anyone, they are insulted and dragged through the mud.
basherman69 1 year ago
@dannyb510 Simply put, I don't think I'm the one who needs to "outgrow" it. If I don't follow your lifestyle belief system, respect it, or at least, put your hatred aside. Proponents of alternative lifestyles are not going to convince anyone to join their side or, at least, tolerate their beliefs if they are going to call their opposition names.
basherman69 1 year ago
@basherman69 Hi. I just wanted to point out something. Clearly, you're not interested in gay people at all so why come to a video with gay in the title? You claim that this is forced upon you yet this clip had to be chosen for you to see it. The title would imply that at some point something that a person such a yourself would find objectionable may happen, so if wish to avoid it why choose to watch it. Most illogical.
kallistiX1 1 year ago 3
This is brilliant.
Brownlyne 1 year ago
This is actually pretty awesome! I didn't know about this project at all, and now must track down the rest!
gregoryvn3 1 year ago
@gregoryvn3
You can watch and download all 5 episodes for free on there home page
startreknewvoyages
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Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 year ago
I am completely in love with this story. I'm a huge fan of TOS and this is just too perfect :) I really hope to see the other episodes soon. Thank you so much for posting this.
M00TAH 1 year ago
this is like every nerdy gay kids fantasy!! =]
hope45688 1 year ago 68
@hope45688 i know!!!!
Bloom5000 1 year ago
@hope45688 haha
SRmarie2010 1 year ago
@hope45688 And every nerdy yaoi girl too! I love this!! :D
DCLsMusic 5 months ago
The acting is atrocious!
1Diogenesis 1 year ago
Well, so far the writing is gay.
1acroyear1 1 year ago
"mr. sulu...."
"you wish" :))
CristianApostol 1 year ago 25
@CristianApostol
Yummy
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Your friend
Michael
Michael123BooDog2 1 year ago
why is chekov so adorable here to?!
FaithfullNightmare 2 years ago 4
The technical quality of this production--or should I say re-production?--is extraordinary! This is fit for broadcast, or at least would have been fit. Congratulations to the team for its dedicated efforts. I hope you will consider using the set and props to create new episodes for YouTube Star Trek fans.
Ortzmet 2 years ago 3
This is entirely new to me since I never saw the original Star Trek lol 0.o
Thanks for the vid =D
MrJason300 2 years ago 2
Your welcome.
I have the other 4 (1 hour episodes) to upload, some day soon I will get around to it.
Right now the Republicans are keeping me busy trying to post all there hate speeches and statements ];-)
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Michael123BooDog2 2 years ago
it never was on the original Startrek
SeraLink 1 year ago