@cyborgtroy right I know it available(didnt know about the ports tho, thanks) but what I mean is, isnt it inferior to direct X and so its primary use would be in mobile devices not powerful enough for directX?
@snelpiller - I think OpenGL 4 is at least on par with DirectX 10 for features, but the graphics card companies tend to implement DirectX first.
But it's not like the performance is worse or anything. You can do all the same graphical techniques, and it runs on the same hardware as DX.
The only reason you can't use DirectX on small devices is because Microsoft owns DirectX, and Windows only runs on x86, which can't scale down that well.
@illmagnified - Yeah. Vertex shading, pixel shading... All part of the OpenGL ES 2.0 spec. Geometry shaders are still a generation or two off, I suppose.
this is the texas instrument omap 3430 chipset, its what powers the palm pre and its faster than what iphone 3gs has...the creator of psx4all ported psx4all to palm pre and he himself said that the palm pres much faster.sad part was that iphone fans were telling him off for saying a fact after he made all those snes,psx & neogeo emulators.
As far as I know, the Samsung SOC S5PC100, which Iphone 3GS uses, is on par with the 3430. It may in fact be slower, because all rumours point to the SGX535 being implemented in the Iphone, vs a SGX530 on the Pre. Not sure where you're getting your info from. What could possibly be making it slower is the Iphone OS, which fails to expose some Iphone calls (for instance no GL_IMG_vertex_program), and could very well be slower overall than WebOs
@zawette i never had a palm pre, but check this out and google this up cause this is a fact. samsung makes the A4 chipset thats in the iphone 4 & ipad. now i dont know if apple was to cheap to get the newer generation "hummingbird soc chip" or if samsung said f*ck off! cause now its only in there samsung galaxy phones and the gpu is 3 X's more powerfull than the iphone4 witch only makes 34 million triangle per sec while the hummingbird makes 98 million, so suck on that ! droid it up bitch!
the graphics engine, yes: OpenGL ES 2.0. The hardware? I don't think so. I don't know how capable the new iPhone hardware is, so we'll have to wait and see
To think that we hardly had hardware acceleration at all just 10 years ago... now my phone is gonna kick my old expensive workstations ass. Hard to get my head around.
Where do I download openGL ES 2.0. On my iPod
killerlord987 11 months ago
I still dont know what openGL 2.0 would be good for. Is it for mobile-devices and webapps?
snelpiller 1 year ago
@snelpiller - OpenGL fills the same space as DirectX, it's for gaming.
Nothing to do with web applications. -_-
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
@cyborgtroy right, so then I guess its for mobile devices seeing how directX is used in all decent computer games
snelpiller 1 year ago
@snelpiller - OpenGL is available on every OS. The OS X ports of Half-Life 2 and Team Fortress 2 use it.
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
@cyborgtroy right I know it available(didnt know about the ports tho, thanks) but what I mean is, isnt it inferior to direct X and so its primary use would be in mobile devices not powerful enough for directX?
snelpiller 1 year ago
@snelpiller - I think OpenGL 4 is at least on par with DirectX 10 for features, but the graphics card companies tend to implement DirectX first.
But it's not like the performance is worse or anything. You can do all the same graphical techniques, and it runs on the same hardware as DX.
The only reason you can't use DirectX on small devices is because Microsoft owns DirectX, and Windows only runs on x86, which can't scale down that well.
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
Playstation 3 is using OpenGL... You're wrong, Direct3D is inferior to OGL in all aspects :D
FrozenPixelStudio 1 year ago
@FrozenPixelStudio
ps3 use openGL ES/ps3 but is slow
Indeed on ps3 there a alternative api, get all power of CELL (sorry for my bad english ;D )
DBGabriele 1 year ago
@FrozenPixelStudio
Direct3D is oop
Opengl no
DBGabriele 1 year ago
if SM 2.0 is capable of that, then whats SM 4.0 which i have capable of!
illmagnified 2 years ago
thats not SM 2.0, thats opengl ES 2.0, for mobile platforms like the iphone 3gs and palm pre.
Indecom 2 years ago
WIAT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT A SECOND "INDECOM"- Your tryin to tell me that Phones now are capable of Pixel Shader effects? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!
illmagnified 2 years ago
ummmm yea...
Indecom 2 years ago
@illmagnified - Yeah. Vertex shading, pixel shading... All part of the OpenGL ES 2.0 spec. Geometry shaders are still a generation or two off, I suppose.
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
Good news for Pandora. :-)
HealyHQ 2 years ago
this is the texas instrument omap 3430 chipset, its what powers the palm pre and its faster than what iphone 3gs has...the creator of psx4all ported psx4all to palm pre and he himself said that the palm pres much faster.sad part was that iphone fans were telling him off for saying a fact after he made all those snes,psx & neogeo emulators.
jay33011211 2 years ago 10
As far as I know, the Samsung SOC S5PC100, which Iphone 3GS uses, is on par with the 3430. It may in fact be slower, because all rumours point to the SGX535 being implemented in the Iphone, vs a SGX530 on the Pre. Not sure where you're getting your info from. What could possibly be making it slower is the Iphone OS, which fails to expose some Iphone calls (for instance no GL_IMG_vertex_program), and could very well be slower overall than WebOs
akotlar 2 years ago
@jay33011211 the iphone 4 is much better than ur palm now :D
zawette 1 year ago
@zawette i never had a palm pre, but check this out and google this up cause this is a fact. samsung makes the A4 chipset thats in the iphone 4 & ipad. now i dont know if apple was to cheap to get the newer generation "hummingbird soc chip" or if samsung said f*ck off! cause now its only in there samsung galaxy phones and the gpu is 3 X's more powerfull than the iphone4 witch only makes 34 million triangle per sec while the hummingbird makes 98 million, so suck on that ! droid it up bitch!
jay33011211 1 year ago
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this is in the iphone?
ronniepage 2 years ago
the graphics engine, yes: OpenGL ES 2.0. The hardware? I don't think so. I don't know how capable the new iPhone hardware is, so we'll have to wait and see
Millhouse013 2 years ago
Yes? the new iPhone 3G S haas the brand new video chip PowerVR SGX, and it can run this graphics)))
k214raZor 2 years ago
Lex Luthor.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago
seems to be great work...
synechris 3 years ago
pandora!
kinmanyuen 3 years ago 4
I was gonna say, doesn't Pandora use OMAP3? Whatever that means.. Is it the GPU?
cyborgtroy 3 years ago 2
Its more like a whole package with ram, flash, cpu, gpu on a single chip.
JayFoxRox 3 years ago
Awesome. I want one.
cyborgtroy 3 years ago
holy shit
Also the background looks like it's from the game Nights for the Saturn. =P
LarkSS 3 years ago
nokia phones omap 2 phones kick butt,
but this destroy everything
Jo21 3 years ago
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Ya now all you have to do is get the carriers to implement GOOD 3D drivers and Windows Mobile will rock!
phred75 3 years ago
To think that we hardly had hardware acceleration at all just 10 years ago... now my phone is gonna kick my old expensive workstations ass. Hard to get my head around.
alizta 3 years ago
< by the end of 2008
the 1 is coming in mars / april the pandora
andri12 4 years ago 3