@moomoo1337 Of course it was a propaganda film. After all, we were in the middle of a war. Why do you think that the Memphis Belle's last mission was a cake walk, nothing like the movie?
The lightning is my WWII favorite, btw. The only American fighter that could make it home with an engine shot out. Shame that there are so few left, but Fantasy of Flight (polk City, FL) is restoring one as we speak.
@moomoo1337 Actually, they did, in later years, after the retro-fit power flaps and for the d model and the later factory fit power flaps in the d-models and to the end of production. It is listed in Martin Caiden's book "The Fork-Tailed Devil". And you are right about one thing. They called it "Der Gobbelschwanz teufel" , which translates "the fork-tailed devil", but that started after they realized that they could no longer break from the later models by doing a split S.
The propaganda aspect of that name was from talking to German pilots that had survived dogfights with them, at which time the propaganda value of the name was too late in the war to be a propaganda boost when the B-17 was still taking the news as the Come Back Bomber/bring em back bomber and we were already advancing on Berlin.
@raptorcat61 German pilots did not call it the fork tailed devil. It was first called it in Stars and Stripes as a nickname. The Luftwaffe didn't think it was a great fighter, they thought Spitfires and Mustangs were far more suited to the European Theatre. It was a great aircraft for the Pacific though and the Japanese held more reverence for the design. It was also held in fear by the Wehrmacht as a ground attack plane in North Africa. FW190 is not Butcher Bird either, it is translated Shrike.
@moomoo1337 Then I stand corrected. I do know that the "Spits" were great planes. I spent about 2 hours talking to a gentleman that was a "Spit" pilot during the war (he gave me his original RAF patch). I love the Spitfire and it was exceptionally nimble, but the 38 was far more of a threat after the addition of the power flaps to combat compressibility. The Germans could no longer evade them after the retrofit F model or the G model. It sucked at low level, but at high altitude, it shined
@playgoog Antique military aircraft is a richer man's game than the lottery can provide. The planes are designed to be swarmed by Maint crews the second the engines shut down. The biggest hole in the sky that you can throw money into.
Sure a beautiful bird, I've watched these at several airshows. the knifes' edge pass is my favorite. Lockheed had a winner with this one. Does anyone know how many P-38's are still left in flyable condition?? Last I heard (1990) there were seven in flying condition, and appraised value of a million+ US dollars each... lat'r Buzz
Always handy to parachute in a camera crew just before you bomb an enemy target, just for those bullshit shots.
moomoo1337 1 year ago
@moomoo1337 LOL, that's what I was thinking. Funny, TV is just as much bullshit now as it was then, only they make it a LOT less obvious!
justforever96 9 months ago
@justforever96 The Balkans also looks very flat, just like Holland or Belgium. Strange that. Couldn't be a silly propaganda film, no..
well, it is nice to see P38s doing stuff
moomoo1337 9 months ago
@moomoo1337 Of course it was a propaganda film. After all, we were in the middle of a war. Why do you think that the Memphis Belle's last mission was a cake walk, nothing like the movie?
The lightning is my WWII favorite, btw. The only American fighter that could make it home with an engine shot out. Shame that there are so few left, but Fantasy of Flight (polk City, FL) is restoring one as we speak.
raptorcat61 7 months ago
@raptorcat61 The strange bit is the Germans never, ever called it the "Fork tailed devil". It was propaganda too.
moomoo1337 7 months ago
@moomoo1337 Actually, they did, in later years, after the retro-fit power flaps and for the d model and the later factory fit power flaps in the d-models and to the end of production. It is listed in Martin Caiden's book "The Fork-Tailed Devil". And you are right about one thing. They called it "Der Gobbelschwanz teufel" , which translates "the fork-tailed devil", but that started after they realized that they could no longer break from the later models by doing a split S.
raptorcat61 7 months ago
The propaganda aspect of that name was from talking to German pilots that had survived dogfights with them, at which time the propaganda value of the name was too late in the war to be a propaganda boost when the B-17 was still taking the news as the Come Back Bomber/bring em back bomber and we were already advancing on Berlin.
raptorcat61 7 months ago
@raptorcat61 German pilots did not call it the fork tailed devil. It was first called it in Stars and Stripes as a nickname. The Luftwaffe didn't think it was a great fighter, they thought Spitfires and Mustangs were far more suited to the European Theatre. It was a great aircraft for the Pacific though and the Japanese held more reverence for the design. It was also held in fear by the Wehrmacht as a ground attack plane in North Africa. FW190 is not Butcher Bird either, it is translated Shrike.
moomoo1337 6 months ago
@moomoo1337 Then I stand corrected. I do know that the "Spits" were great planes. I spent about 2 hours talking to a gentleman that was a "Spit" pilot during the war (he gave me his original RAF patch). I love the Spitfire and it was exceptionally nimble, but the 38 was far more of a threat after the addition of the power flaps to combat compressibility. The Germans could no longer evade them after the retrofit F model or the G model. It sucked at low level, but at high altitude, it shined
raptorcat61 6 months ago
P38 and P51D are what I'm getting as soon as I win the lottery...mega lottery. just a matter of time ; )
playgoog 1 year ago
@playgoog Antique military aircraft is a richer man's game than the lottery can provide. The planes are designed to be swarmed by Maint crews the second the engines shut down. The biggest hole in the sky that you can throw money into.
raptorcat61 7 months ago
love this plane
featheredmusic 1 year ago
this plane doesn't get the respect it deserves
zman6033 1 year ago
Sure a beautiful bird, I've watched these at several airshows. the knifes' edge pass is my favorite. Lockheed had a winner with this one. Does anyone know how many P-38's are still left in flyable condition?? Last I heard (1990) there were seven in flying condition, and appraised value of a million+ US dollars each... lat'r Buzz
BuzzDyou 1 year ago
The video is amazing !
AIRBORNECOMBATDIVER 1 year ago
Thats what im talkin about.
FlyBoeing777 1 year ago
I LOVE the "Fork tailed Devil". My personal favorite. Glacier Girl, Beautiful.
CBKillas 1 year ago
PWND :D
RoboTekno 1 year ago
good video! :)
guillermovidal1lfb 1 year ago