DELTA is like a f__king cult. All of the other major airlines pay more and have health care benefits for retired Flight Attendants. Just wait and see how ATL employees feel when former Air Tran employees make three times more than DELTA employees in ATL due to their merger with Southwest Airlines. I will be laughing my head off! Wake up DELTA junior employees!!!
737823, you're misunderstanding what that AA Flight Attendant was telling you. Corporations can't just increase work load for flight crew without limit. AA has done this consistently and APFA has had to step in to keep them in check. How would a company justify a steadily increasing workload, resulting in more money being made on the backs of its workers, yet still force them to work under what is now seven continuous years of concessions. You obviously feel the sky is the limit, unfortunately
@knucklepunt how is money made on the back of workers when AA pays their flight attendants the most in the industry when adjusted for productivity (second to WN for overall pay) and has been bleeding red ink up until last quarter? The APFA members should be glad to have jobs and if they don't like what AA has to offer seek employment elsewhere. Plenty of other workers will gladly take those jobs at lower wages and more lenient work rules.
Thank god we voted AFA out!!!!!!!!!! Pro Delta, ANTI AFA! We get paid more, have better trips, they treat us well, and so on. Why do other passengers compare us and always say they can tell if we are Delta or Pre Merger Northwest? Delta provides awesome customer service and Northwest is mean. I would like to thanks the PMNW F/A's for voting the union out! YAY!
@skybarbie910 Agreed! I love Delta and glad the last of Northwest's identity is gone. It will be interesting to see how the AFA's interference charge proceeds, but seriously the union dictates the schedule, gets the deck stacked in their favor (rule change), then accuses management of interference when the workers vote no? "Opportunity, unity, respect"-it's time to respect DL FAs do not want a union. See you in the friendly (largely) non-union skies of Delta Air Lines!
The Unique Culture is southern hospitality. I'm sorry but I disagree neilbrian77. My voice has always been heard by management. AFA=paycut
I am trying to see your side BUT I can only go by what I read in the contract and from other NWA people that I have encountered. Why is it that they are never happy? I am still voting no. You will still vote yes. No way AFA.
@skybarbie910 Awesome post! I've been a loyal delta customer because its is non-union and offers excellent service. If I want disgruntled union folks, I'd fly UAL or NWA.
@737823 if you could present one national survey that DL scored higher than UA or NW id might think your comment is credible, southern hospitality is like french fries compared to the aloha spirit. growing up in hawaii you have to fly if you want to go anywhere and flying was still something special even during the hard times, crews still had special service to HNL, out of all the major carriers in HNL UAL, AA, CAL, DL Hawaiian is by far top. Hawaiian-union fly safe anonymous 'loyal passenger'.
@neilbrian77 Virgin America, JetBlue have all won numerous awards for superior domestic service. To give you some idea, I paid $600 extra to fly BE BOS-ATL-TLV rather than JFK-TLV (union PM-NW crews and dinky 744 when I can have 777). Many of the carriers with superior reputations happen to be union ie Cathay Pacific. Problem is un US unions have instilled a sense of entitlement among employees and are very anti-business and anti customer.
@737823 can you stop making up stuff. "the problem with US unions..." boo listen JD Power award winners alaska hawaiian and continetal are all union. so get off. you have no idea what your talking about. union means better quality if you look at awards. no baseless remarks please use facts. thanks.
@neilbrian77 I'm sorry you feel that way, but you need to understand unions are very customer unfriendly. For example, last week on BOS-LHR (AA 763 J class) I asked to purchase LHR express tickets, and purser comes to my seat and says APFA has instructed them not to process sales. WTF? She said the FAs aren't receiving a commission from the sale, and this is their motive to get the company negotiating. Why do they need one? Aparently they chose not to perform a simple task.
@737823 saying something over and over is not going to make it true. FACT: JD Power awards all union carriers, lowest customer satisfaction...non union. im sorry i cant join you in your world of unions are bad at customer service. cause i live in reality, your invited to join me in reality any time.
@neilbrian77 Fair enough, I suppose we agree to disagree on the union issue. Truthfully, do you understand why the Heathrow Express tickets with APFA is ridiculous? I understand they have scope clauses and work rules but how is performing a simple task (which AA advertises) outside the contract scope? I ended up buying my ticket at the machine at Heathrow. But in all seriousness, I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work on the vids.
The main reason I left Northwest in 2005 is that I felt a hostile takeover by Delta was imminent and I did not want to work for Delta. I went through their nasty F/A interview in 1989 when they asked me how my family felt about me, being a 39-year old male and unmarried. My "family" as my parents and siblings. Yeah Delta cares. They have values. Have some more Kool Aid.
@4Y83Z120401 thanks for the comments. i guess once a flight attendant always a flight attendant :) glad to see your still active and thanks for the support.
Unions exist to keep a balance between employer and employees. Without a union, there is no contract, the company squeeze more and more from the employees, this creates resentment, anger, frustration, and ultimately hurts everyone.
A contract creates fair grounds that both sides have to follow. It makes perfect sense!
DELTA is like a f__king cult. All of the other major airlines pay more and have health care benefits for retired Flight Attendants. Just wait and see how ATL employees feel when former Air Tran employees make three times more than DELTA employees in ATL due to their merger with Southwest Airlines. I will be laughing my head off! Wake up DELTA junior employees!!!
lexco71160 9 months ago
737823, you're misunderstanding what that AA Flight Attendant was telling you. Corporations can't just increase work load for flight crew without limit. AA has done this consistently and APFA has had to step in to keep them in check. How would a company justify a steadily increasing workload, resulting in more money being made on the backs of its workers, yet still force them to work under what is now seven continuous years of concessions. You obviously feel the sky is the limit, unfortunately
knucklepunt 1 year ago
@knucklepunt how is money made on the back of workers when AA pays their flight attendants the most in the industry when adjusted for productivity (second to WN for overall pay) and has been bleeding red ink up until last quarter? The APFA members should be glad to have jobs and if they don't like what AA has to offer seek employment elsewhere. Plenty of other workers will gladly take those jobs at lower wages and more lenient work rules.
737823 1 year ago
Thank god we voted AFA out!!!!!!!!!! Pro Delta, ANTI AFA! We get paid more, have better trips, they treat us well, and so on. Why do other passengers compare us and always say they can tell if we are Delta or Pre Merger Northwest? Delta provides awesome customer service and Northwest is mean. I would like to thanks the PMNW F/A's for voting the union out! YAY!
skybarbie910 1 year ago
@skybarbie910 Agreed! I love Delta and glad the last of Northwest's identity is gone. It will be interesting to see how the AFA's interference charge proceeds, but seriously the union dictates the schedule, gets the deck stacked in their favor (rule change), then accuses management of interference when the workers vote no? "Opportunity, unity, respect"-it's time to respect DL FAs do not want a union. See you in the friendly (largely) non-union skies of Delta Air Lines!
737823 1 year ago
The Unique Culture is southern hospitality. I'm sorry but I disagree neilbrian77. My voice has always been heard by management. AFA=paycut
I am trying to see your side BUT I can only go by what I read in the contract and from other NWA people that I have encountered. Why is it that they are never happy? I am still voting no. You will still vote yes. No way AFA.
skybarbie910 1 year ago
@skybarbie910 Awesome post! I've been a loyal delta customer because its is non-union and offers excellent service. If I want disgruntled union folks, I'd fly UAL or NWA.
737823 1 year ago
@737823 if you could present one national survey that DL scored higher than UA or NW id might think your comment is credible, southern hospitality is like french fries compared to the aloha spirit. growing up in hawaii you have to fly if you want to go anywhere and flying was still something special even during the hard times, crews still had special service to HNL, out of all the major carriers in HNL UAL, AA, CAL, DL Hawaiian is by far top. Hawaiian-union fly safe anonymous 'loyal passenger'.
neilbrian77 1 year ago
@neilbrian77 Virgin America, JetBlue have all won numerous awards for superior domestic service. To give you some idea, I paid $600 extra to fly BE BOS-ATL-TLV rather than JFK-TLV (union PM-NW crews and dinky 744 when I can have 777). Many of the carriers with superior reputations happen to be union ie Cathay Pacific. Problem is un US unions have instilled a sense of entitlement among employees and are very anti-business and anti customer.
737823 1 year ago
@737823 can you stop making up stuff. "the problem with US unions..." boo listen JD Power award winners alaska hawaiian and continetal are all union. so get off. you have no idea what your talking about. union means better quality if you look at awards. no baseless remarks please use facts. thanks.
neilbrian77 1 year ago
@neilbrian77 I'm sorry you feel that way, but you need to understand unions are very customer unfriendly. For example, last week on BOS-LHR (AA 763 J class) I asked to purchase LHR express tickets, and purser comes to my seat and says APFA has instructed them not to process sales. WTF? She said the FAs aren't receiving a commission from the sale, and this is their motive to get the company negotiating. Why do they need one? Aparently they chose not to perform a simple task.
737823 1 year ago
@737823 saying something over and over is not going to make it true. FACT: JD Power awards all union carriers, lowest customer satisfaction...non union. im sorry i cant join you in your world of unions are bad at customer service. cause i live in reality, your invited to join me in reality any time.
neilbrian77 1 year ago
@neilbrian77 Fair enough, I suppose we agree to disagree on the union issue. Truthfully, do you understand why the Heathrow Express tickets with APFA is ridiculous? I understand they have scope clauses and work rules but how is performing a simple task (which AA advertises) outside the contract scope? I ended up buying my ticket at the machine at Heathrow. But in all seriousness, I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work on the vids.
737823 1 year ago
The main reason I left Northwest in 2005 is that I felt a hostile takeover by Delta was imminent and I did not want to work for Delta. I went through their nasty F/A interview in 1989 when they asked me how my family felt about me, being a 39-year old male and unmarried. My "family" as my parents and siblings. Yeah Delta cares. They have values. Have some more Kool Aid.
4Y83Z120401 1 year ago
@4Y83Z120401 thanks for the comments. i guess once a flight attendant always a flight attendant :) glad to see your still active and thanks for the support.
neilbrian77 1 year ago
Unions exist to keep a balance between employer and employees. Without a union, there is no contract, the company squeeze more and more from the employees, this creates resentment, anger, frustration, and ultimately hurts everyone.
A contract creates fair grounds that both sides have to follow. It makes perfect sense!
Carmarthan415 1 year ago 2