Eclipse, Talon, and lasers are in fact the same cars. But Ive always thought the talon better then the others, i just feel like you can Mod them alot more
4g63t- built from ground up, bored .025 over forged pistons , 272 hks cams, dog box, fp3065 turbo, 1680 injectors, titanium oversize valves, hks blow off walve and 38 mm wastegate, dyno shows 694.3awhp. fuckin crazy car!! put 20 k into a dsm and beat $200k cars lmao 9.8 q mile
Fuckin clean and all I got to say is it doesn't matter if the corvette is a c5, z06, or zr1..... This 4 banger smoke the shit out of his own class a sorry ass gas-wasting v8
Holy hell!!! lol. That was awesome! It's funny cuz it looks like a crappy normal car. The vet driver was probably like, this will be a piece of cake. And then... VROOOOOMMMMM! LOL!!
@dsmtuners How are you running 25 PSI on 450cc injectors? I thought the 450s maxed out around 17? Either way, impressive times! I'm gonna miss the good old stock spring squat under a hard launch now that my 92 is lowered. Gotta love not seeing the road all the way through first gear :P
@tpumpiscmibicv I know this is a 7 month old reply, but my 92 ran stock injectors as well. Even confused Tony at UMS here in AZ LOL. When I let him do a pre-tune drive (was tuned for Colorado, ran rich down here), he and his tech looked it over beforehand and said no way it was 30 psi. Then he drove it and said he was confused lol. Just some fuel support mods, pocket logger and eporm, fmic, 2g maf, exhaust and mbc. Watch my video and see for yourself. Don't mind my talking, long drive in.
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I had a 93 tsi and hated it and sold it after owning it 2 weeks and bought my 95 dodge stealth r/t twin turbo which i still have today. Those talons suck
Just curious, but really, why are you comparing a corvette to a talon? I have had 2 talons, but still, I'm very aware that a corvette with similar amounts of modifications is going to hammer on a Talon. The Talon was also half the price though.
as to the corvette beating any the talon on any track..
thats not true at all. on a tight windy course the talon would destroy, short gears and awd. but on a longer straighter course the corvette would pull away. The talon is built for acceleration, where as the corvette speed. you cant say that one is better then the other because the cars were built for 2 different reasons.
AWD cars pull very hard towards the away from the inside line when on a track, it's a huge disadvantage, and they are susceptible to premature tire wear on the track. That's why the Skyline race cars, most switched over to a RWD drivetrain. Statisically the best times recorded at Nurburgring at largely RWD cars, all of the top times posted are. Don't get me wrong at all, i very much like Eagle Talons, i've had one, and some of them are fast, i never made any biased distinction.
Yeah, even with that shady launch the 'Vette still had enough pull to make it a race. Of course AWD is gonna get a better launch regardless, but put that Talon against any 'Vette on a track and the 'vette will win every time!
C5, C6, Z06, ZR1, Lingenfelter... Yah> Corvettes own Nurburgring germany, european are scared to put thier 2 million dollars car up against them and have them disgraced, that's why they do testing now on separate days. We won't even get into why JDM won't merge with American Le Mans for even one race. Thier best Skyline by prestige, it's "Castrol GT-R" can't even see the time the C5R and C6R put up at Nurburgring. I like Talons too, but let's be real.
In what class? I'll admit that I don't follow racing, but I'd like to point out that the season results posted at americanlemans com do not fully support your claims. I'm seeing cars like Porsche, Ferrari, and Aston Martin at the top of the lists (i.e. GT2) most of the time when you are saying they refuse to compete. And just to be clear _ANY_ Vette on _ANY_ track is a pretty tall order. A highly modified Talon could compete with a stock C6 on the right track.
What ring is that exactly? What Corvette are you comparing the acr to? Where did you get your times from? John Lingenfelter's Corvette? That very Corvette outperformed and embarrassed every single imoprt and european car that performed against it in "slaloms" so, i don't know where you associate this "striaght line" with "Lingenfelter Corvettes.
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There's a ton of incorrect statements in these comments. The 14B turbo is good until 18 psi, after that the turbo is just pushing too much hot air. The Turbo can handle up to 26psi, but in order for the 14b turbo to push more power, you need meth injection to cool down the air that is being pushed from the 14b.
14B is good up to about 20ish anything after that is in efficient and its time to upgrade to a 16G! My Bro is running 18 On his stock 14b GVR4 Stock internals XD
Boost controller and awd doesn't mean automatically fast. If you take that stock 14b much past 16 psi you're gonna start to fuck shit up with everything stock. Plus, that turbo isn't made to handle that much boost.
i'm sure it was a stock C6. DSMs are siiick tho. i was gonna get one to replace my firebird, but i know they break all the time and my firebird is very reliable. maybe when i have more cash.
man this little ugly car is smoking the others
christianz2010 3 weeks ago
i like the 92 but i like the flip up lights with the 90s and 91
KendamaChris92 4 months ago
Is there a write up on this car somewhere? I would like to have this setup on my dsm after the evo 16g is taking a shit on me.
aquinonez90 5 months ago
Talon all the way. I think its funny when dummy's think an Eagle Talon is like a rare make when its just an Eclipse with different body panels.
MrSolidtiger 6 months ago
nice man!
95300whptalon 6 months ago
Eclipse, Talon, and lasers are in fact the same cars. But Ive always thought the talon better then the others, i just feel like you can Mod them alot more
livininbatcountry 8 months ago
4g63t- built from ground up, bored .025 over forged pistons , 272 hks cams, dog box, fp3065 turbo, 1680 injectors, titanium oversize valves, hks blow off walve and 38 mm wastegate, dyno shows 694.3awhp. fuckin crazy car!! put 20 k into a dsm and beat $200k cars lmao 9.8 q mile
ltdshredmaster 8 months ago
they r the same cars but i think the talon has always looked better
FatalAscetic 9 months ago 2
Yes it is :)
dsmtuners 9 months ago
whats better, an eclipse or talon?
OutspokenNaysayer 9 months ago
@OutspokenNaysayer I think Eagle :)
dsmtuners 9 months ago 3
@OutspokenNaysayer Eclipse, Talon, and Lasers, are all the same damn car. Even the Evo 8s, and 9s have a 4g63 in them, and are considered DSMs
tigerhorns 8 months ago
@OutspokenNaysayer
talon (:
aALiSTERw 7 months ago
Fuckin clean and all I got to say is it doesn't matter if the corvette is a c5, z06, or zr1..... This 4 banger smoke the shit out of his own class a sorry ass gas-wasting v8
jDmmothaLOVAH 11 months ago
@jDmmothaLOVAH Your a idiot. Gas waisting? The Corvette gets 32 MPG going 80 MPH, lets see your 4 banger do that.
adam4fam 8 months ago
@adam4fam Big turbo 4 bangers can get up to 34-38mpg @ speeds and still be a 500 hp monster.
SVPrelude 6 months ago
i just bout a 14b i hope its nice!
c00345 1 year ago
so your dsm is stock?!
dmspit 1 year ago
wow 14b doing 12.8. is your car dyno tune?
chriszelaya 1 year ago
i bet the guy in the corvette thought he had a chance...
enemen8 1 year ago
my talon is running 20psi on 14b turbo as well and also has evo 8 injectors
gtoboy86 1 year ago
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What is the secret ?i have the same you have and i do best time 14.07
haynes208 1 year ago
What is the secret ?i have the same you have and i do best time 14.07
haynes208 1 year ago
@haynes208 driver mod lol
nallen100 1 year ago
What rpm was you launching at?
dsm525 1 year ago
was it just spiking 25 then falling off? What rpm did it start falling.
dsm525 1 year ago
boom.
rotarypsi 1 year ago
Have you dyno'd the car? If so about how much power were you putting down? Also do you know what your average '60 foot is?
DJMhollywood 1 year ago
Damn, 12.8 is quick for a 14b. Props bro.
BettaWreckinEyez 1 year ago
Thanks bro :)
dsmtuners 1 year ago
@BettaWreckinEyez theres a 50 page thread on dsmtuners of nothing but people talking about the 14b making 11s and 10s.
coheed0000 8 months ago
it's a nice car my brother had a newer one but he wrecked it but anywho he had a little head start in the beginning
frm21395 1 year ago
fucking awsome on stock turbo too damn!
nallen100 1 year ago
Holy hell!!! lol. That was awesome! It's funny cuz it looks like a crappy normal car. The vet driver was probably like, this will be a piece of cake. And then... VROOOOOMMMMM! LOL!!
gmrworm 1 year ago
What are your mods?
StockDC2 1 year ago
the people in the audiance loved that shit
ryankhali 2 years ago
25psi and AF 11.8:1
dsmtuners 2 years ago
@dsmtuners 25 psi on the 14b, dam. What was fuel system was this on? 190 and some 550s?
DSMDriver69 1 year ago
Walbro 255 and stock 450cc
dsmtuners 1 year ago
@dsmtuners How are you running 25 PSI on 450cc injectors? I thought the 450s maxed out around 17? Either way, impressive times! I'm gonna miss the good old stock spring squat under a hard launch now that my 92 is lowered. Gotta love not seeing the road all the way through first gear :P
tpumpiscmibicv 1 year ago
@tpumpiscmibicv I know this is a 7 month old reply, but my 92 ran stock injectors as well. Even confused Tony at UMS here in AZ LOL. When I let him do a pre-tune drive (was tuned for Colorado, ran rich down here), he and his tech looked it over beforehand and said no way it was 30 psi. Then he drove it and said he was confused lol. Just some fuel support mods, pocket logger and eporm, fmic, 2g maf, exhaust and mbc. Watch my video and see for yourself. Don't mind my talking, long drive in.
Speedcult77 1 year ago
what psi was this run?
DSMDriver69 2 years ago
daaaag that bad boy just up and LEFT!
pjbridgeman 2 years ago
i love the talons take off, that was sweet
xXfunloveXx 2 years ago
wow he stayed on the stutter box FOREVER!
2fastdsm 2 years ago
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I had a 93 tsi and hated it and sold it after owning it 2 weeks and bought my 95 dodge stealth r/t twin turbo which i still have today. Those talons suck
yurifiero 2 years ago
lol you are a joke
YamahaMonster660 2 years ago
@YamahaMonster660 like owning a piece of shit 660 raptor. Step up to a 450r or maybe a yfz450. My450r would walk all over a POS raptor 660 anyday
yurifiero 2 years ago
LOL!!!!! Dude let me hand it to you,your a badass. seriously like.... go fuck yourself and your gay ass 450
YamahaMonster660 2 years ago
True but the fastest time attack car is an EVO..and guess wut 4wd
Kenuwine24 2 years ago
Blagodarq :) STARAQ SE
dsmtuners 2 years ago
Mnogo divo tragvane!!!
Ogi4a 2 years ago
the crack whore that ran in front of the camera was faster than both of those cars.
jeffzahnd 2 years ago
Just curious, but really, why are you comparing a corvette to a talon? I have had 2 talons, but still, I'm very aware that a corvette with similar amounts of modifications is going to hammer on a Talon. The Talon was also half the price though.
CBTalon97 2 years ago
as to the corvette beating any the talon on any track..
thats not true at all. on a tight windy course the talon would destroy, short gears and awd. but on a longer straighter course the corvette would pull away. The talon is built for acceleration, where as the corvette speed. you cant say that one is better then the other because the cars were built for 2 different reasons.
K33G1N 2 years ago
AWD cars pull very hard towards the away from the inside line when on a track, it's a huge disadvantage, and they are susceptible to premature tire wear on the track. That's why the Skyline race cars, most switched over to a RWD drivetrain. Statisically the best times recorded at Nurburgring at largely RWD cars, all of the top times posted are. Don't get me wrong at all, i very much like Eagle Talons, i've had one, and some of them are fast, i never made any biased distinction.
ASCEND2ETERNITY 2 years ago
they where built to drive on the road....and the corvette would own a talon on a short or long track.
jeffzahnd 2 years ago
i like the part where the talon raped the corvette.
oldkoolaid 2 years ago
Me too. haha
imnotahillbilly123 2 years ago
5500 rpm
dsmtuners 2 years ago
dirtiest launch i have ever seen
whats the rpm on the launch
Jorge50505 2 years ago
lol! What kind of half-assed start signal was that?! Awesome launch, btw!
crookedtool 2 years ago
Yeah, even with that shady launch the 'Vette still had enough pull to make it a race. Of course AWD is gonna get a better launch regardless, but put that Talon against any 'Vette on a track and the 'vette will win every time!
ASCEND2ETERNITY 2 years ago
Against any Vette on any track? Nah.
crookedtool 2 years ago
C5, C6, Z06, ZR1, Lingenfelter... Yah> Corvettes own Nurburgring germany, european are scared to put thier 2 million dollars car up against them and have them disgraced, that's why they do testing now on separate days. We won't even get into why JDM won't merge with American Le Mans for even one race. Thier best Skyline by prestige, it's "Castrol GT-R" can't even see the time the C5R and C6R put up at Nurburgring. I like Talons too, but let's be real.
ASCEND2ETERNITY 2 years ago
In what class? I'll admit that I don't follow racing, but I'd like to point out that the season results posted at americanlemans com do not fully support your claims. I'm seeing cars like Porsche, Ferrari, and Aston Martin at the top of the lists (i.e. GT2) most of the time when you are saying they refuse to compete. And just to be clear _ANY_ Vette on _ANY_ track is a pretty tall order. A highly modified Talon could compete with a stock C6 on the right track.
crookedtool 2 years ago
@ASCEND2ETERNITY
well lets see here. im fairly sure the viper acr is faster then the corvette around the ring, around 4 seconds faster actually.
and lets get this straight. the lingenfelter... straight line car.
K33G1N 2 years ago
What ring is that exactly? What Corvette are you comparing the acr to? Where did you get your times from? John Lingenfelter's Corvette? That very Corvette outperformed and embarrassed every single imoprt and european car that performed against it in "slaloms" so, i don't know where you associate this "striaght line" with "Lingenfelter Corvettes.
ASCEND2ETERNITY 2 years ago
the ring is the Nurburgring.
and i was comparing the ACR to the ZR1.
the ACR made it round the ring in 7:22 minutes, nearly 4 seconds faster then the ZR1. if im remembering correctly.
K33G1N 2 years ago
1/4mil 12.874@108.31 / 1.769
dsmtuners 2 years ago
I so love the AWD launch!
Blondets1 2 years ago
the one that can do low 11's high 10's is the motor that they had in the earlier years of the lancer evo
mat7733 2 years ago
Really quick on stock stuff- i'm sure you're altitude has everything to do with it. Good job on the launch!
preludedriver226 2 years ago
yo cock is stock nigga
fran20055 2 years ago
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There's a ton of incorrect statements in these comments. The 14B turbo is good until 18 psi, after that the turbo is just pushing too much hot air. The Turbo can handle up to 26psi, but in order for the 14b turbo to push more power, you need meth injection to cool down the air that is being pushed from the 14b.
sawthis 2 years ago
YES DSM THE BEST :)
dsmtuners 2 years ago
dsm power ,
420at3 2 years ago
14B is good up to about 20ish anything after that is in efficient and its time to upgrade to a 16G! My Bro is running 18 On his stock 14b GVR4 Stock internals XD
superboogen 2 years ago
Stock Engine,Stock head and cams; Stock TD05H 14b Turbo; Stock trans and drivetrain; Stock Suspension ; Full interior and Pump gas
dsmtuners 2 years ago
so the car is completly stock
robthercking 2 years ago
you fuck the turbo can handle 22PSi
mcsweeneys77 2 years ago
Boost controller and awd doesn't mean automatically fast. If you take that stock 14b much past 16 psi you're gonna start to fuck shit up with everything stock. Plus, that turbo isn't made to handle that much boost.
JTsiTalon92 2 years ago 7
what a gay flagger the drivers dident know if he was serious or not the tsi said fuck it go lol
FKHAN69 2 years ago
legit launch.
randydelpriore 2 years ago 2
i have a stock talon same year and no way that would run any sort of 12
Kawboy420 2 years ago
It ccould with awd and taking boost up to 20psi
andyroo89 2 years ago
yeah thats true what andyroo89 mentioned. with an AWD and boost controller. it'll run high 12's.
hhgreasemonkey 2 years ago
No it actually can. The fastest 14b turbo I think went into low 11's or 10's. Its around youtube somewhere.
Deepestdarkest015 2 years ago
That launch was gangster.
StockDC2 2 years ago
Corvette lost
dsmtuners 3 years ago
were is this at
sonraz1 2 years ago
WHO WON?!
Spunoutofcontrol 3 years ago
with a professional driver...
just because some one can go buy a fast car does not mean they know how to drive it
ApexVIII 3 years ago
agreed, but its still nice to see the talon win :D
blitzcarn 2 years ago
yea for sure, nothing like seeing a $3k car smoke a car worth 10x its value lol
ApexVIII 2 years ago
Way to 2 step it for 2 hours.
mikenieves87 3 years ago
that was no 2step.. that was rev limiter! hahah 7-8k launches for the win
yungspyder 2 years ago
No man , its a high 2 step trust me.
lespaulguy 2 years ago
not the first time ive seen a dsm beat a vet though
imsweetasallheezy 3 years ago
I only speak english lol who won???
krazycardude 3 years ago
i'm sure it was a stock C6. DSMs are siiick tho. i was gonna get one to replace my firebird, but i know they break all the time and my firebird is very reliable. maybe when i have more cash.
roydied15 3 years ago
behold the beauty of all wheel drive...
talon1gtsi 3 years ago
gawd that launch was nasty!!
RubberDuckieXcore 3 years ago
I see Talons kicking ass all the time. the 4g63 Talon and eclispe GSX are fuckin awsome. I'v seen them whoop muscle.....tuner and a exotic so far.
Master7770 3 years ago
I know man the wonders of 4g63
andyroo89 3 years ago 10
Wasn't a ZO6.
StandardRacing 3 years ago
DSM RULES....
pelonDSM 3 years ago 3