RR Episode D1 - Death

[RichardRoy2]

I really loved this video roseboosje. It's just a wonderful topic, the music was magnificent, and I loved "Groundhog Day". I thought it was ingenious how many lifetimes he had to go through to finally find a way to enjoy himself. Yep, had to watch this one again. Nice. ;)

[rozeboosje]

Thank you!

[bradmanthethird]

you know what will happen to you when you die? exactly whatever was happening before you were born, it's only logical. you were not existant before your chemical body and you will not be existant after your chemical body.

[rozeboosje]

Yup. That about sums it up.

[gazzmatronix]

Great vid, reminds me of:

"But if you study the logistics and heuristics of the mystics

You will find that their minds rarely move in a line

So it's much more realistic to abandon such ballistics

And resign to be trapped on a leaf in the vine."

Kings Lead Hat (anagram of Talking Heads)

Brian Eno

[rozeboosje]

LOL - nice sentiment

[creativeinsult]

hey i think i saw this vid :P lol christopher loyd

[rozeboosje]

Quite possible. :-)

[paulusmagirl]

Well said! When it's over, it's over. Lights out.

End of story. You are, no more.

[rozeboosje]

Exactly

[RichardRoy2]

That was great roseboosje. You even managed to put in a cross gendered bull. LOL I wonder why that cartoon didn't raise up a big sting from the homophobes. And, yeah, I take postlife to be pretty much like prelife.

[rozeboosje]

yeah :-)

[ArtificialCleverenAI]

nice 1080p, decent enough audio for now ( YOUTUBE - LISTEN UP!)

[rozeboosje]

Yeah. The audio quality is perfectly fine for what I want to do here, but it isn't good enough for people trying to store high quality music videos here.

[premed2]

Wow! Great vid. You've certainly gone downhill a long way since then. :P

[rozeboosje]

ROFL - cheers

[Flapjackbatter]

Was that Steeleye Spam there in the beginning ?

It sounded like Maddy Prior.

[Entiox]

@Flapjackbatter

I was about to ask the same question. It sure sounds like them. If it is, right on Rozey nice taste in music.

[rozeboosje]

See my response to FJB

[rozeboosje]

There are credits at the end. The music in the beginning was by the John Renbourn Group. The song is named "Death and the Lady"

[dalinean]

Excellent !

I usually watch cdk007 for this kind of elucidation of semantics.

I 've learnt something today.

Thank you.

[rozeboosje]

Cheers! cdk007 is one of my YouTube heroes, so your mentioning of him in my comments just made my day :-)

[latterdayhertic]

great video man

[rozeboosje]

Cheers

[Guildhelm]

People shouldn't worry about death because after we die, there is no suffering.

[rozeboosje]

Exactly. Death is - literally - nothing.

[macnutz]

Like others I don't fear non existence. But I am not looking forward to the dying part. The lucky folks die in their sleep.

[rozeboosje]

Yup. I do go into this in detail in Episode D3 - you can of course go and watch it straightaway, but I will be re-uploading it, too, soon enough.

[musicgeniusno1]

What a great first upload Pino. Be great to see some of the earlier ones. :)

[rozeboosje]

Cheers. I plan to do this with some of the early videos, the ones that I still think are relevant today. Looking at them again, I see that the quality is shockingly bad, due to what YouTube used to do to videos back then when they processed them.

[youvexme]

I'm sure the process of dying will be frightening. But death itself? I didn't exist in 1968, and it didn't bother me then. I fear death in that I fear losing loved ones, though.

[rozeboosje]

I touch on dying in Episode D3 - which I will re-upload soon or you can watch in shockingly bad quality right now. I don't fear losing loved ones, as I won't exist to feel the loss, but I do feel regret about the parts of their lives in which I won't be able to feature, and I do worry about how they will cope after having lost me.

[AbdultheImpailler]

Groundhog Day!!!  FTW!!!

[rozeboosje]

:-)

[Guildhelm]

Nice celtic music :)

[rozeboosje]

Cheers

[MoreSciFiThanScience]

This was actually really good dude, I think my first videos were on my old channel and they were about 10,000 times less professional than this lol - how long till you made the transition to appearing in the videos?

[rozeboosje]

Exactly one month. I uploaded this on 12 March 2007, on 12 April I uploaded my vid "Islam and Science" in which I first appeared, talking to the camera. It was weird but I soon got used to it.

[ebaltrace]

Rozey, Very Good Message. The truth is always refreshing.

Ebal the Atheist

[rozeboosje]

Cheers

[NCLUSA]

People in my Country can still vote after they're dead, but they can only vote for a democratic candidate!,,,,,,strange? ( :

[rozeboosje]

ROFL That's strange alright XD

[NragedXX]

Death scares the shit out of me, nothing i can do about it, but the thought of a inevitable end scares the shit out of me! Great video man!!!!!!

~Rage

[n1bigdaddy]

@NragedXX

same here

i know it doesn't make sense to fear it but i still do...

[italianchappy]

it does make sense. Evolutionary speaking, people afraid of death have survived and reproduced their genes more than those who weren't afraid :) We got the genes that protect our genes.

[rozeboosje]

Animals are scared too, even though they don't understand the concept of mortality. The fear is an innate response to "scary" things such as predators or precarious heights or whatnot. The animal don't understand that they're "afraid to die". They're just scared when faced with things such as predators.

[rozeboosje]

I think the fear of death is an "intellectual" fear that arises when people start realising that they're actually mortal. It's not a natural fear. The fear that, say, animals display when faced with a predator is not a fear of death, it's an innate fear of the predator, that the animal wouldn't be able to explain if it had the ability to speak. "I don't know why I'm afraid of Tigers, they just scare the shit out of me."

[rozeboosje]

Understandable, but perhaps episode D3 may help there. I'll upload that soon enough, or see the original in bad quality :-)

[oojamaflipper]

people say my mum is a cow... i hope she doesn't dmca you!

; )

[rozeboosje]

rofl

[freethinker3161]

looking forward to seeing more of your old ones.

[rozeboosje]

Yup. I'll try and space them out a bit though. Wouldn't want to overload people with old stuff.

[mediteight]

Reminds me of a quote...

"Why should I worry about dying? It's not going to happen in my lifetime."

...Raymond Smullyan

[rozeboosje]

Excellent. I like Raymond Smullyan. Great with the old logical puzzles and such.

[TheXroadr]

Absolutely sterling! Can we get that mind back in you?

[rozeboosje]

:-)

It's still there, but it's being eclipsed with seeing so many people that I admire getting their accounts vandalised. I wish I could just go back to making vids like these and enjoying myself. :-(

[ogjimkenobi]

No seriously though, this was nice treat to come across, a little piece of Rozey history on youtube.

[rozeboosje]

Thank you!

[ogjimkenobi]

Goddamn it Roze sometimes you really piss me off man. The first video I ever made is terribly embarrassingly bad. I had just barely figured out how to use my video editing software and it really showed.

Yours is all really well done and looks all nice.

Bah!

[rozeboosje]

LOL

Don't feel bad about it though, My first video on YT was not the first video I ever made, but before that I had been playing with making holiday snap videos and the likes to share on DVD with my family. You should see the first vid I ever made. Shocking XD.

[TheAwedCouple]

Old school rozey, rules!

-Mo

[rozeboosje]

Thank you!

[PinkProgram]

Death really isn't an issue for me... I will exist until I cease to exist ^_^ but once I cease to exist there is no way to put me back together again.

[rozeboosje]

Yup, and there really isn't.

[fractal420]

Who does that version of O Death?

[fractal420]

NM your credits answered it for me :)

[rozeboosje]

:-)

[italianchappy]

Maybe is it "My name is death" by the Incredible String Band ? I cannot find it in youtube, sadly. I like it. Anyone with a link ?

[fractal420]

It's Camper Van Beethoven - O Death

[italianchappy]

thank you. Different from the ones I see on yt, though. I like this one more.

[rozeboosje]

That was the first song - and it was "Death and the Lady" by the John Renbourn Group. The Camper van Beethoven song is the second song, immediately following the Groundhog Day clip.

[italianchappy]

Straight into favorites. There's a very interesting article by Thomas Clark about this here

naturalism D O T org/death D O T htm

Clark, the director of the Naturalism Center, seems to go well beyond Epicurus and even Severino (an italian philosopher who has delved long time on this). I'd like to listen to your always bright opinion.

[rozeboosje]

Thanks! This is the first episode of a number of videos I did on the subject back in 2007. I'll be re-uploading them all over the next week or two.

[GoMetricToday]

Death doesn't scare me any more. I have faced it 2 times with my health and I know that I just need to make the most of the life that I do have.

[rozeboosje]

Exactly. We should all take a leaf out of that book.

[thatgaybloke]

If you take a photograph and burn it - is the image burned? Has the image gone up in smoke No. The atoms that made up the photograph still exist and have gone up in smoke, but the pattern that was the image simply no longer exists. The same is true of our consciousness at death.

[italianchappy]

the problem is not easy even from a naturalist or non-metaphysical point of view. Kurt Godel, for instance, could answer that the pattern still exists, in its own time, because in a parmenidean 4 dimensional universe everything always keeps existing in the time it is in. What this could imply in relation to that special thing that "consciousness" is, I don't know.

[thatgaybloke]

If you look at space time in that way then everything that has ever happened or will ever happen exists simultaneously. So you're right, we exist because we have always existed. Every moment is "eternal" in that sense. How you would be able to view that - surely you'd have to be outside of space time to do it - is an interesting concept.

[rozeboosje]

Yeah - that's a very interesting angle on the whole thing, but it does appear to fit in with a static four-dimensional structure in which actual change does not exist, and I'm not so sure I like THAT idea. Not that there is anything that could be done about it if it were the truth, mind you XD

[rozeboosje]

Yup

[allianceofdemons]

The Sanctity of Death shall be the title of one of my soon arriving videos.

[rozeboosje]

Great! Looking forward to that.

[rd1999]

boy cows do not have utters

[RichardRoy2]

@re1999: Yes they do. It's the female bulls that don't have udders. LOL

[rozeboosje]

lol

[rozeboosje]

Yeah. Whoever made that movie has really got a screwy understanding of biology XD

[Orygyn]

Nearly 3 years of awesome.

[rozeboosje]

:-)

Thanks!

[dstabi]

Thanks!

[rozeboosje]

Cheers

[theracemixer]

geezzzzz too much of this subject is not good

[rozeboosje]

True. But neither is too little of it.

[HaleyMary]

"When we are death has not come. When death has come we are not."

I like Epicurus's philosophy. Why worry about being in a state of non existence if we aren't even going to be aware of it?

[rozeboosje]

Exactly.

[saxmanchiro]

I owned that exact model of clock radio that Bill destroyed. It made a click everytime the little plastic flap flipped over, every minute. I felt like doing that to the damn thing.

[rozeboosje]

ROFL - Yes, I remember the time when those clock radios were all the rage.

[BeardedBill86]

"Life is too short to be taken seriously" I like that sentiment Rozey.

[rozeboosje]

Yup. It's a variation of something that Oscar Wilde said, hence the image of his statue in the Merrion Park in Dublin.