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  • Poor people pay a lot of taxes. I did the tax return for a GI who made 16,400. Thats poor. He paid federal income tax -- and DID NOT get it all back. He paid FICA -- and did NOT get it back, he paid phone taxes -- fuel taxes, sales taxes, cig taxes.

    Some rich pay a lot of taxes -- but a lot of rich people don't pay much -- or any taxes. Depends how they made the money.

    Since the guy in the video clearly is clueless about that - he is spouting off about stuff he knows nothing about.

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  • Why dont you run for office, Skippy? GO try to get elected -- TO ANYTHING. And if you get elected, see how easy it is. You would be surprised how no matter what you do, people will be pissed, just like you are pissed at Hillary. Plus, you dont know crap about taxes. Working poor pay a lot of taxes.

  • Here is a clue moron -- poor people pay a lot of taxes , contrary to your idiot rant. I did tax returns for a GI who made 16,500 dollars a few years ago. He paid income tax -- didnt get it all back. HE paid FICA tax. He paid gas tax. He paid phone tax. He paid State income tax. He paid cigarette taxes. He hardly made crap -- but he paid a lot of taxes. Just cause your sister was a welfare queen -- dont blame hillary.

  • hmm, actually from what i've seen thats middle class. ive known people who are lucky to clear 8k a year. maybe he me also meant people who dont make enough to have to file taxes. he makes a decent point about, where are we going to get all the money to pay for all the canidates promises. i still remember the harsh taxes during the clinton years. but, sometimes taxes are needed, and many poor people do need help.

  • How many families have to pay for Iraq war? How many families have to pay for the tax breaks on rich.

  • "The United States was supposed to have a limited government because the founders knew governmental power attracts swarms of crooks, demagogues and despots as surely as horse manure attracts swarms of horseflies." -- Rick Gaber

  • fair enough....at least we can agree to disagree.

  • yes, its convenient in this day and age how documents can go " missing " when your privileged, but always seem to show up if your just an ordinary citizen.

  • " embedded " where permissible.

    you MAY change the subject to Kerry, but i proved my point on your doubts of U.S. atrocitys

  • the community service you mention was because Bush and little brother Jeb ran over some trash cans while George was under the influence of alcohol.his father forced him to attend to teach George a lesson .the real hilarious part is he worked as a volunteer for a LIBERAL organization.

  • there is no documentation for a form 44a from the Alabama National Guard certifying Bush's attendance.if you could provide one i would love to see it.

  • All wars kill children. no exceptions.

    Abu Ghraib;cheapening life by suggesting men are nothing but " idiots " sounds like something Saddam might of said durring his lifetime

    all reporters are barred from military areas without prior approval since the Veitnam conflict. all known atrocitys are well documented rapes and killings of civilians by U.S.servicemen who were court-martialed and sentenced here in the U.S.

  • May'72; one month after drug test were anounced GW Bush stopped attending Guard duty.A.W.O.L

    Aug '72; suspended from flight duty for failure to take drug/medical test.

    Never flew again after apr '72.Discharged a full 10 mo. early on jul 31,'73

    sept 4 '76; D.U.I. conviction in the state of Main.Bush admits he quits drinking because he see's it as a " problem " ie > HEAVY DRINKING.

  • itlee, " Bush never wavered from what was right & moral " so his awol from the National Gaurd drug testing was " moral "? his heavy use of alcohol until the age of 40 also must be " moral?" Christian ? say Bush lied once, thats a venial sin,but multipy thay lie through 300 million Americans who believed it leaves a whole lot of hail mary's for God's redemtion of Bush.

  • itlee, are you suggesting Saddam killing children is less moral than any other country which kills children ? thats insane. you realy need to evaluate yourself on the definition of what morality stands for. Abu Ghraib? have you somehow convince yourself that American atrocity's never occured there also? my outrage stands against the people who brainwash children to be used as suicide bombers.

  • Hillary is a determined socialist. G-d help us if she is elected! Her giveaway programs will set us back 100 years.

  • Hitlary is and will be the complete and total destruction of our country, she will institute so many social programs that will make it impossible for our country to pay for them. Can you say..Allah who ackbar!

  • FUCK CLINTON AND HER YALE SKULL AND BONES SOCIETY OF MAYFLOWER PRIVALEGED BULLSHIT PEOPLE!

    She is cancer!

  • I agree. Secret societies really have no place in our govt. But, we must accept that they are involved in all forms of our govt. Both Bush and Kerry are members. I find it interesting that these societies are not questioned more by the media. These people run a great portion of the country.

  • ReadyWerx: skull and bones eh, I was told by both parties that this organization didnt exist....they wouldnt lie to me would they?

  • skull and bones, thats a check mark for ya, they have your name now!

  • LOL....if they ask me to join, um, I'll tell you guys the 411... If I'm gone more than a couple days, send up a flare. No, this organization is a myth. A myth that runs stuff.

  • Bohemian Grove is also some scary stuff. If you can find which candidate was there last. Statistically , that is the new Pres.( former: Bush, Clinton, Sr., Reagan)

  • Amen, I understand the cost of the programs she will institute. Absolutely impossible at the current tax policy.

  • First of all, they are all crooks for the most part. Those who come hear as an opportunity to defend Bush must have taken a blow to the head. Yes, her idea is bad. But don't think we have forgotten that Bush has spent lots and lots of "our" money. These problems are not going to be solved by party politics.

  • In our recent history we as Americans let certain things happen that are now gonna bite us in the ass. I.E. - our fiat currency and the Federal Reserve. This coupled with easy credit is the biggest example of taxation without representation ever. Think, right now we are in soo much debt that it would cost every man, woman, and child $30,000.00 just to be in the black. No party we address this with. They would have to acknowledge the corrupt economy.

  • the difference between repubs and dems is one party may, MAY, lube you up b4 they screw you.

    Our imperialistic govt must be contained to preserve our republic!

  • Ready: you are correct,our govt is out of hand, we cannot, however; decrease the size of govt, we can only stop its growth, Bush is and has been bad, does that mean we use that to elect people that will be worse..NO!

    Lets take control back, I am thinking Huckabee in 08, Im not completely sold, but Im close.

  • O.K., I didn't express my thought well. The arguement wasn't Bush sucks so go Clinton. They are actually very close in economic madness.Those two families are tied at the hip . My point is 25% of tax money paying for blackbudget projects is not control. An "untouchable" private bank like the Fed. is not control. Protecting or defending parties instead of individual rights is counterproductive. Politicians politic for election. Govt. is non-partisan. They are agenda.

  • I think that our govt. is actually much bigger that the govt. suggests. We can not afford the current spending, hell, we couldn't afford our spending pre 911. We the people being complicit to these facts ensure the fundamental breakdown of our country. This is not only a fact, but some economists have been screaming this for a long time. This will not be addressed by the govt. , neither Dem/Rep. 2009 is a long time away.

  • Bush has increased the size of our govt by 180%, Clinton increased it by 85%, it keeps growing and growing, lets halt this growth NOW!

    Huckabee or thompson 08

    dont matter between the two except huckabee may be more effective.

  • SOCIALISM = THEFT

    We should help each other - voluntarily!

  • idiots have been getting there, even a retard got there twice...

  • It's interesting how so many people fail to realize that welfare and Government programs are theft. Period.

    Society formed Laws to prevent Theft of the individuals, not to enable it. That is one of the essential flaws of socialism/communism. The other is simply in a system the rewards inactivity by assuming those who are productive 'owe' it to those who aren't you encourage people to become parasites. Pretty much sums up todays world doesn't it?

    RP 2008!

  • HighDesertDI: I fell ya man!

    But an isolationalist like RP may not be the answer, convince me otherwise my friend.

  • Sounds like the corp media has been effective. Perhaps you should kill your TV.

    Having a Free market isn't isolationism. Think about it. What Ron Paul is suggesting is simply that we withdraw our military and keep it in check to what it's original intent was supposed to be. Protection of the People of the united States. Pretty simple. Not furthering the goals of multi-national corporate interests.

  • Interestingly enough, on an individual level, people who do business at a barrel of a gun are usually referred to as criminal psychopaths. Yet on a national level, if you believe in doing business voluntarily then you're called an 'isolationist'! OMG! The horrors! How will the multi-national corps continue to destroy the planet for massive profits! Think of the share holders!

    Indeed if you're paying attention you'll find the same demented thinking regarding the fed.

  • You seem to be against one of the most valuable assets america has...it's employers.

    What will happen if we hurt the ones employing america?? You cant condemn corps alone, why not include the 1/3 of entitlement americans, you have an opinion, that is no more nor less valid than mine..however, Facts do say that corporations employ 67% of America, so yeah, lets condemn them and just destroy their ability to employ.

  • Generalizing is a useful tool at times, but can often be the cause of disagreements. Not all corporations do business at the barrel of a gun. Many of them do business with others voluntarily - but then that would define them as 'isolationists' if you believe the current propaganda regarding the issue.

    As far as the 'entitlement americans', if we simply do away with the idiotic notion that groups of individuals can commit crimes (ie theft) then that wouldn't be a problem.

  • C'mon HighDesertDi, there are no absolutes in life, so one (when speaking of vast issues) must generalize. Specifically, entitlement people suck off of others, rich people have no income, they get there money from what is called "Capital gains" that is taxed at 15% while most people pay 30-40% on "earned income". Meanwhile those that get 2 mil a year on capital gains are classified as poor because they dont have income. we need to re-define poor to even start to address this.

  • Wow... I think this guy just won the Most Obvious Statement of the Year Award!!! :)

  • Biggest vote buy scam in the history of the country, she would run this country into the ground if she gets elected. She is horrible. At any rate, give her a week, chances are she will change her idea, thats pretty much what she always does anyways. But yeah, her understanding of basic economics is utterly disturbing.

    Great video. Great job.

  • Yep buying a vote! Something for nothing lazy people sit and watch cable while the rest work and pay into the kitty.The kitty pays the cable watching people. Bad system. 5/5

  • Hillary wants a $5k bonus for illegal aliens to have more anchor babies here. bye bye ER rooms.

    Ron Paul 08

  • Hillary wants to give more incentive for illegal immigrants to come here.

    Ron Paul 08!

  • Thank you for seeing through all of the BS. Unfortunately, no one who believes Hillary should be president will see this and even if they do they'll just write you off as some Bush lackey.

  • 5 stars Lewis! This would just give more of an incentive for welfare recepients to have more children. $5,000. per child. They will be doing better than the working class. So, 7 kids $35,000. Do you really think they are going to save it for their children's college fund? Why shouldn't our troops have better equipment instead of cannabilizing parts for their humvees. Hillary is an idiot. She isn't going to win. It will be a Republican.

  • But its ok that we can spend 2 billion dollars a week on the war.And looking at you bud you may want to take that deal cause you my man need a health check

  • here's a guy pissed off

    & concerned about giving up 20 billion to give health care coverage for American kids . but hardwired in typical conservative fashion, you won't ever hear him or people like him complaining of how many millions per minute of our taxpayer money we export to Iraq for war that inadvertently kill's children.

  • Lewis said that the proposal made by Hillary would be $5,000. per child for college education. This is not for healthcare. It seems to me that you are unpatriotic that our troops do not deserve money. Why don't you just have the Middle East come over here and kill your children. Will you think the same then? These children in the Middle East are trained to bomb our troops. They go to training camps at a very young age.

  • it seems mia, your blind patriotism has narrowed your mind. we have 86 billion dollars unacountable this yr in Iraq. that 86 BILLION in one yr lost! fight them over there instead of here rang true in ww2. not so much for contaning fractionalized Iraq warlords & goat herders who just happen to live over 1/4 of the worlds oil supply . and you justify killing Iraq children? children mia? i pray to God your dont dare recognize yourself as a Christian, mia.

  • You know I love ya Lew

  • Rich people have a tax cap. Rich people pay taxes on the first $100K but not the rest. So the CEOs that make millions a year basically get millions tax free. That is what the Dems are talking about. Taxing the rich for more than their first $100K. So that means not everyones tax goes up.

  • Our taxes always increase. My taxes increased significantly with Bill Clinton in office. I didn't have more money in my pocket. I couldn't really claim anything for income tax, except one dependent which is my son. Actions speak louder than words.

  • Actually Ruste, you pay Social Security Taxes up to $97,000, then no more, you pay Federal Income taxes on ALL income, there is no cap.

  • You are absolutely correct and I was absolutely wrong. After hearing what you said,and what I typed, I did the research cause it just didn't add up. I already was against Hillary, this is just one more reason. Hope all of America sees your video.

  • Oh and Five Stars!! You Rock!!!

  • Man I want you 4 my President!!

  • No more taxes! Ron Paul 2008! If you don't vote for Ron Paul, you are a scumbag and your man bits will fall off. And your children will die. And their children too. Ron Paul 2008! If you don't vote for Ron Paul you are ugly and no one loves you.

  • "only" $20,000,000 jejeje

  • YA SHE IS!

  • I'm sorry but I don't want pay that shit for Americans only, she is a fucking slut, she wants to do this for americans only and make pay the immigrants, LOL !!!

    She can go to hell.

  • FUCK HER !!!!!!!!!

  • thats old my man , since Waco Texas Janet Reno days.

  • Um...I think it would take me about 24 Beers and 6 Shots 2 even think about it!

  • and lewis they are all thiefs. some are just bigger than the other ones.

  • I was never a hippi but did like the music. Matter of fact even in the 1960s very few were real hippies. something like americans this days.

  • Hillary is a liberal, and liberalism is a mental disorder. Good Video Max !

  • Pillory, err, Hillary is obviously the big government, cradle to grave, socialist; what always gets me about proposals like this is why someone (ANYONE!) in the press does not ask the obvious question.

    "Why $5,000.00?"

    If $5K is good, wouldn't $10K be better? Why not $25K or 50K?

    We will have bad candidates as long as we have a hack media & stupid voters.

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

    PS - Most of 'em running for president suck. My choice, Newt, announced today he isn't running.

    :-(

  • You can't give without taking. I would support her bond idea if it didn't involve taking 20 billion dollars from the US population. And the middle class will be the ones hit hardest. Great video.

  • How about all those anchor babies from illegals. Lets just make it more appealing to jump the fence.

  • you have a very eclectic way of looking at things....I must agree!

  • God forbid she get elected, we'll have to start calling her "Nanny".

  • we throw away more money in foreign countries anyway how much you think that visit from Iran cost? .

  • 1.76% of america to pay for her programs, couple that with the 1.3 trillion cost of our govt now....it cant be done, dont argue what is not presented ahippi, I presented an argument to STOP further spending, we know from experience the govt, will not decrease in size...so lets stop it from growing!!!!

  • Another flawed plan from a flawed person! *****...Kev *=

  • She is also talking about the 8-10 illegally born kids in America! You know the ones that already take up all our Emergency room, jobs and social services. Why do you think they breed like rabbits! They know thoseidiots like Clinton will handd them a free ride, The more kids the better and the more bucks!! 5/5 Max!

  • You are absolutely correct. We knew that Hillary would come up with more and more ideas for the government to take over our lives. "The satelite dish syndrome" is evident all over the place. Poor people usually afford what they want. She wants to take money from the "haves" and give it to the "have-nots." I.E. Socialism. I am starting to believe more and more that if she keeps pulling these kind of stunts, then people will wise up and we can beat her!

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