to all the people that keep saying mccoy has a quicker first step:
wake the F up! did you not see Sports Science? .26 of a second. Also, the 2 guys played in much different defenses. If Suh wasn't suppose to explode into the backfield each play, McCoy was and still had (in his career) equal stats to Suh's senior year. I would've liked to see Suh shoot in there more often, but that wasn't his job. He was suppose to stand up his guy, read the play, and then throw him to the side.
As a Bucs fan, I want Suh but would still be more than happy with McCoy if Suh is gone. Suh is the better all around player but McCoy is a perfect fit in as a T2 undertackle and would perform nearly as well in our scheme. in a T2, McCoy might even be able to pressure the QB better than Suh.
You get this dude on your team with a good corner who can stay with a receiver for two seconds and your secondary has increased its turnover percentage in a year.
WOW from 6:13-7:16 is just pure DOMINANCE. Good luck to those Oline men that's going to have to deal with this BEAST of a man twice a year in their division.
i dont think the lions will get suh since they picked up corey williams in free agency, but with the rams, lions, and bucs drafting 1-2-3, i cant imagine suh dropping past the bucs. the only way that happens is if the rams go QB, lions go OT, and bucs end up being retarded and drafting mccoy over suh. even then, suh wont drop out of the top 5. someone up there will be smart enough to draft him even if they dont need a DT.
@huskermaniac28 I can tell you right now that if the Bucs do somehow get to choose between Suh and McCoy at 3 and they choose McCoy.....the fans might mob up and sack One Buc Place. McCoy might be more explosive or whatever, but he is a shade of the player Suh is against the run and Suh isn't exactly bad at rushing the QB either. But the Bucs run defense is horrible and we are in a division with power running. Suh has to be the choice if he is there for us.
@Elthenar yeah you are right. mccoy maybe has a quicker first step, but thats only one small part of even rushing the QB, let alone all the things that go into being an NFL DT. i still think Suh is better at not only playing the run, but rushing the QB as well. the numbers show it. and nobody can say mccoy had more talent playing around him if you look at the other guys on nebraska's D. Ill be incredibly surprised if Suh doesnt have a better NFL career than mccoy.
My instincts tell me that this young man is more than just the greatest college player. I'm thinking NFL star. I've never seen anything like this except for Reggie White
"oh, no, you shouldnt compare him to reggie white, hes not that good. he only had 82 tackles and 12 sacks in 2009. gerald mccoy is the next reggie white and warren sapp put together! he had friggin' 32 tackles and 6 sacks, and he has a wayyyyyy quicker first step than suh, who is obsolete to Mr. McCoy, cuz McCoy plays on a way better defense (nebraska's defense sucked, they were only #1 in the nation) and he has a wayyyyyy quicker FIRST STEP! cuz that first step is EVERYTHING!!!" -Todd McShay
"Ndamukong Suh is no good. he only had 82 tackles and 12 sacks in one year. Gerald McCoy is THE next reggie white, only better, cuz his 32 tackles, 6 sacks, and ultralightningquick first step screams NFL HALL OF FAMER! man, i just want to drink Gerald McCoy's godly piss..." NFL Draft "Expert" Todd McShit- oops, McShay...
if suh is still on the board, yes they would be dumb. why? cuz QBs like clausen and bradford come through every year. talents like suh come around once every couple of decades, maybe. look at the last Super Bowl and you know that defenses win championships. what st. louis should do is draft suh and somehow pick up matt moore from the panthers or jason campbell from the redskins.
@JustinCHolt "thats college numb nuts... not the NFL..." really? you must be a complete moron. in 2009, the pittsburgh steelers won the super bowl with one of the best defenses in the NFL. in the same season, the denver broncos, with a prolific offense but a horrible defense, went 8-8. you are probably too arrogant and incompetent to realize it, but you are wrong.
Actually he's right dipshit.. The 2009 steelers as I recall won the Superbowl cause of their offense!!. Yeah I'm right. The Denver Broncos had a good offense??? You fucking cornhusker idiot the broncos went 2-6 their last remaining 8 games so how the fuck can they even have a good offense?? You know jack shit about the NFL son, stick to kids college games.. And I believe the only homer who is arrogant and Incompetent to realize it is you... You're wrong again...
@xchargerOUx the steelers won on the pass to santonio holmes, yes, but their defense was a big part of why they got to the super bowl you moron. and i find it quite amusing you are telling me im the one that doesnt know anything about the NFL when the broncos actually went 4-4 in their last 8 games. you know why they did so bad? cuz of a LOUSY DEFENSE! get your crap right buddy
Your somewhat right, even though defenses win championships...look at the superbowl winners of the past five 5yrs they all had good QBs....matt moore is alright...he somewhat benefited from his running game....jason campbell is not a starter and you can't win with him and the rams already have a young Def line can be better with suh.....but they need a QB BAD lol
yeah, i know they need a QB, but they can wait a year if it means getting a talent like suh. these 'experts' that claim mccoy is just as good as suh, or better, just need to look at the stats. that makes it quite obvious who is the vastly superior DT. besides, the two QBs the rams could pick are both pretty risky, for different reasons. Suh would be the smart pick in the long run. the rams should never have gotten rid of warner though.
thats the thing though they waited already two yrs in a row and they were terrible both years at the position...dont get me wrong i love suh and ur right about mcCoy the numbers dont stack up....i get what your saying but u think anytime you pass on a QB and you need one its never smart no matter who is on the board. Falcons picked a QB when rams passed = playoffs.... jets moved up and picked a QB when the rams didnt = a game away from the SB. rams gotta go QB
you have a good argument there. however, matt ryan is the type of guy that doesnt come around too often, and the jets didnt get there because of sanchez. they could have made it with practically anyone with the running game and defense they have. its all a matter of opinion, and since the only decent looking QBs are clausen and bradford, and with suh still on the board, i still think you gotta take suh. if it werent for suh being in this draft, i totally agree they would have to go QB.
@huskermaniac28, I was a fan of suh because of the stats and how he literally threw QB's. But if you watch the film on the two, you have to notice the explosiveness that mccoy has. I would honestly rather the rams take mccoy because of the explosiveness. Dont get me wrong, Suh is a beast and much stronger than mccoy but you dont see the explosiveness and effort to get to the ball like mccoy does EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Anyway I think the rams will and should take Sam Bradford. Im not a Sooners fan..
If we were talking defensive ends, who have more space to make plays, I'd agree with you. But, this is the inside, it's messy, and finesse alone ain't going to cut it. I like McCoy, but I find he can be neutralized easier than Suh. Just like in college, Suh will get a lot of sacks just because he can overpower people.
now we know this kid is legit 10 saCKS 66 TACKLES in his rookie year throw in a interception, fb recovery for a td
CrazyCornhuskerFan 1 year ago
WELCOME TO DETROIT
leg3ndxxx1 1 year ago
that colorado QB is runnin for his life XD I would love to see manning gettin chased like that
danielle00014 1 year ago 2
The only knock against Suh is that he does the same bull rush move every play. He will need to learn more to dominate in the pros.
nokioqaun 1 year ago
to all the people that keep saying mccoy has a quicker first step:
wake the F up! did you not see Sports Science? .26 of a second. Also, the 2 guys played in much different defenses. If Suh wasn't suppose to explode into the backfield each play, McCoy was and still had (in his career) equal stats to Suh's senior year. I would've liked to see Suh shoot in there more often, but that wasn't his job. He was suppose to stand up his guy, read the play, and then throw him to the side.
fortheeyesofmarch 1 year ago
mccoy cant hold suhs jock strap
middleofthemitten 1 year ago
As a Bucs fan, I want Suh but would still be more than happy with McCoy if Suh is gone. Suh is the better all around player but McCoy is a perfect fit in as a T2 undertackle and would perform nearly as well in our scheme. in a T2, McCoy might even be able to pressure the QB better than Suh.
Elthenar 1 year ago
i dont wanna get negative replies but i notice suh seems to be a good yard closer to the line than anyone else has anyone noticed that?
chubbz0727 1 year ago
@chubbz0727 thats not suh you are looking at
CrazyCornhuskerFan 1 year ago
@CrazyCornhuskerFan r u blind? hes #93 right? thats clearly him
chubbz0727 1 year ago
You get this dude on your team with a good corner who can stay with a receiver for two seconds and your secondary has increased its turnover percentage in a year.
LastCalltoBoogie 2 years ago
WOW from 6:13-7:16 is just pure DOMINANCE. Good luck to those Oline men that's going to have to deal with this BEAST of a man twice a year in their division.
Freshja14 2 years ago
As a Bear fan please god don't let the Lions pick this guy ? Is there any chance the Rams might pass on him ?
Nautilus1972 2 years ago
@Nautilus1972 big chance
CrazyCornhuskerFan 2 years ago
i dont think the lions will get suh since they picked up corey williams in free agency, but with the rams, lions, and bucs drafting 1-2-3, i cant imagine suh dropping past the bucs. the only way that happens is if the rams go QB, lions go OT, and bucs end up being retarded and drafting mccoy over suh. even then, suh wont drop out of the top 5. someone up there will be smart enough to draft him even if they dont need a DT.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
@huskermaniac28 I can tell you right now that if the Bucs do somehow get to choose between Suh and McCoy at 3 and they choose McCoy.....the fans might mob up and sack One Buc Place. McCoy might be more explosive or whatever, but he is a shade of the player Suh is against the run and Suh isn't exactly bad at rushing the QB either. But the Bucs run defense is horrible and we are in a division with power running. Suh has to be the choice if he is there for us.
Elthenar 1 year ago
@Elthenar yeah you are right. mccoy maybe has a quicker first step, but thats only one small part of even rushing the QB, let alone all the things that go into being an NFL DT. i still think Suh is better at not only playing the run, but rushing the QB as well. the numbers show it. and nobody can say mccoy had more talent playing around him if you look at the other guys on nebraska's D. Ill be incredibly surprised if Suh doesnt have a better NFL career than mccoy.
huskermaniac28 1 year ago
My instincts tell me that this young man is more than just the greatest college player. I'm thinking NFL star. I've never seen anything like this except for Reggie White
Coganboy 2 years ago 4
"oh, no, you shouldnt compare him to reggie white, hes not that good. he only had 82 tackles and 12 sacks in 2009. gerald mccoy is the next reggie white and warren sapp put together! he had friggin' 32 tackles and 6 sacks, and he has a wayyyyyy quicker first step than suh, who is obsolete to Mr. McCoy, cuz McCoy plays on a way better defense (nebraska's defense sucked, they were only #1 in the nation) and he has a wayyyyyy quicker FIRST STEP! cuz that first step is EVERYTHING!!!" -Todd McShay
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
imagine putting im as d end for some plays? haha i think the nfl would eventually unallow it.
sk8er98567 2 years ago
STL ramzs all dey fools!!
STLryder2010 2 years ago 2
you see him fighting off those double teams? man is this guy a beast...DET will be happy to have him
ShaMoneeey718 2 years ago 5
sorry dude i always make the mistake of pressing the down thumb instead of the up thumb for its first, so your comment was great.
CrazyCornhuskerFan 2 years ago
its quite alright homie
ShaMoneeey718 2 years ago
"Ndamukong Suh is no good. he only had 82 tackles and 12 sacks in one year. Gerald McCoy is THE next reggie white, only better, cuz his 32 tackles, 6 sacks, and ultralightningquick first step screams NFL HALL OF FAMER! man, i just want to drink Gerald McCoy's godly piss..." NFL Draft "Expert" Todd McShit- oops, McShay...
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
detroit will be lucky to get him because saint louis would be retarded to pass him up for bradford or clausen or g. mccoy.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
St louis wouldnt be dumb to pick a QB lol you seen what they have?...yes SUH would make their D better but QBs win championships not DTs
ShaMoneeey718 2 years ago
if suh is still on the board, yes they would be dumb. why? cuz QBs like clausen and bradford come through every year. talents like suh come around once every couple of decades, maybe. look at the last Super Bowl and you know that defenses win championships. what st. louis should do is draft suh and somehow pick up matt moore from the panthers or jason campbell from the redskins.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
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JustinCHolt 1 year ago
@JustinCHolt "thats college numb nuts... not the NFL..." really? you must be a complete moron. in 2009, the pittsburgh steelers won the super bowl with one of the best defenses in the NFL. in the same season, the denver broncos, with a prolific offense but a horrible defense, went 8-8. you are probably too arrogant and incompetent to realize it, but you are wrong.
huskermaniac28 1 year ago
living in colorado ya what justin said was pretty retarded
CrazyCornhuskerFan 1 year ago
Actually he's right dipshit.. The 2009 steelers as I recall won the Superbowl cause of their offense!!. Yeah I'm right. The Denver Broncos had a good offense??? You fucking cornhusker idiot the broncos went 2-6 their last remaining 8 games so how the fuck can they even have a good offense?? You know jack shit about the NFL son, stick to kids college games.. And I believe the only homer who is arrogant and Incompetent to realize it is you... You're wrong again...
xchargerOUx 1 year ago
@xchargerOUx the steelers won on the pass to santonio holmes, yes, but their defense was a big part of why they got to the super bowl you moron. and i find it quite amusing you are telling me im the one that doesnt know anything about the NFL when the broncos actually went 4-4 in their last 8 games. you know why they did so bad? cuz of a LOUSY DEFENSE! get your crap right buddy
huskermaniac28 1 year ago
but if they dont take suh, they better take bradford.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
Your somewhat right, even though defenses win championships...look at the superbowl winners of the past five 5yrs they all had good QBs....matt moore is alright...he somewhat benefited from his running game....jason campbell is not a starter and you can't win with him and the rams already have a young Def line can be better with suh.....but they need a QB BAD lol
ShaMoneeey718 2 years ago
the saints won off a pick six
CrazyCornhuskerFan 2 years ago
yeah, i know they need a QB, but they can wait a year if it means getting a talent like suh. these 'experts' that claim mccoy is just as good as suh, or better, just need to look at the stats. that makes it quite obvious who is the vastly superior DT. besides, the two QBs the rams could pick are both pretty risky, for different reasons. Suh would be the smart pick in the long run. the rams should never have gotten rid of warner though.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
thats the thing though they waited already two yrs in a row and they were terrible both years at the position...dont get me wrong i love suh and ur right about mcCoy the numbers dont stack up....i get what your saying but u think anytime you pass on a QB and you need one its never smart no matter who is on the board. Falcons picked a QB when rams passed = playoffs.... jets moved up and picked a QB when the rams didnt = a game away from the SB. rams gotta go QB
ShaMoneeey718 2 years ago
you have a good argument there. however, matt ryan is the type of guy that doesnt come around too often, and the jets didnt get there because of sanchez. they could have made it with practically anyone with the running game and defense they have. its all a matter of opinion, and since the only decent looking QBs are clausen and bradford, and with suh still on the board, i still think you gotta take suh. if it werent for suh being in this draft, i totally agree they would have to go QB.
huskermaniac28 2 years ago
@huskermaniac28, I was a fan of suh because of the stats and how he literally threw QB's. But if you watch the film on the two, you have to notice the explosiveness that mccoy has. I would honestly rather the rams take mccoy because of the explosiveness. Dont get me wrong, Suh is a beast and much stronger than mccoy but you dont see the explosiveness and effort to get to the ball like mccoy does EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Anyway I think the rams will and should take Sam Bradford. Im not a Sooners fan..
ramsfan102839 1 year ago
@ramsfan102839
If we were talking defensive ends, who have more space to make plays, I'd agree with you. But, this is the inside, it's messy, and finesse alone ain't going to cut it. I like McCoy, but I find he can be neutralized easier than Suh. Just like in college, Suh will get a lot of sacks just because he can overpower people.
mtlson 1 year ago
@ShaMoneeey718 They better be because there the worst drafting team in the last 10 years besides the Raiders lol
Crabman2186 1 year ago
suh how do you do it
joeyporter100 2 years ago
lol suh
CrazyCornhuskerFan 2 years ago