My LIFE experience differs from yours so I think; based on that; consciousness is more than chemical reactions and electronic impulses. A coma patient by your definition is alive but is that really life? being Marxist/Lennonist (groucho/john) I'd say "You bet your life! Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans" and because I'm a fucking genius as sensitive as sit I'd never join a club (or take a label) that would have me as a member.
BUT I dont think you should pray to God thats disempowering. And your prayers wont be answered. Life is what you make it this reality however spirituality and imagination is where the human Soul is at Home. All ideologies are enemies of man. As aforesaid the very fact you EXIST in a REALITY is amazing. the fact that there IS a reality is amazing. just... take some mushrooms in silent darkness if you have a few hours to spare my dear friend.
Let me tell you something Sepparatist Squares. I took 5 grams of psilocybin and I asked myself: ''Is there a God'' ? Then, I looked at this reality and the very fact that empty space EXISTS is a MIRACLE plus on top of that theres matter AND life and life is too beautiful to have been an accident. I do not beleive in a God that intervenes in peoples lives because thats REAL FREE WILL. I dont think your infantile psyche can comprehend the wonder
Furthermore, there is no empirical evidence, working model/s, empirically known/knowable pathway or viable hypothesis or even the ability for scientific methodology to test and definitively explain the rise of life on earth, yet you seem to think you have it all figured out.
And since you lack any objective evidence or proof in support of your assertions, allow me to inform you of the reality in "fact" that you're robustly operating by wishful fantasy faith, whilst stated as if "fact"
Says who, you and your alleged respect for "facts, truth" and Wikipedia's stale definitions?
You're miserably failing to appreciate the mindbogglingly, scientific stymieing, logically indeclinable and miraculous qualities of what life is.
You're just demonstrating desperation to believe that living organism's can credit their origination to random, chemical-material interactions, by coincidental happenstance in a pitiful attempt to dismiss the very real possibility of God from the equation.
@LizardLeaps "Very real possibility"...? How do you figure? Where is the evidence for god? And I mean the DIRECT evidence, not the god-of-the-gaps nonsense.
"Naw, see...if you thought there was a "very real possibility", you'd have evidence to back it up"
Wrongio, see...if you wish to dismiss the “very real possibility“, you'd have to back it up with objective evidence that the universe and viable life can credit their origination to purely naturalistic mechanistic processes, precluding God.
Your subsequent fallacious correlation, invalid loaded question and false dichotomy are disqualified on their logically fallacious faces.
@LizardLeaps No. YOU'RE the one making the positive claim, kiddo. YOU'RE the one saying there'z a possibility that something is real. YOU'RE the one who has to back it up with facts. Anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and your "very real possibility" has ZERO evidence.
So, sorry, but the burden of proof is YOURS; I'm simply pointing out that you're full of shit.
"No. YOU'RE the one making the positive claim, kiddo. YOU'RE the one saying there'z a possibility that something is real"
Wrongio Finster, I don't *have to back up with facts the very real possibility of God's existence*
Yours is a non-sequitur for it's irrelevancy to science by very definition...for inability to subject to scientific testability, that which isn't falsifiable in hypothesis and which is purported as being in essence of the Supernatural.
You cannot regress in time to implement the scientific method to gain empirical knowledge definitively explaining that which was/is responsible for life having arisen from non-living matter.
Consequently, yours is a wishful faith in *life being just no more than chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way*
You're in denial/self-deceived if you really believe yours isn't a positive claim, stated as if fact, without any objective/empirical evidence in support.
@LizardLeaps Even if you can't go back in time, that does NOT grant you an exemption from having to produce empirical, objective evidence to prove your claims. You don't get a pass on having to provide a way to verify what you're saying.
You have claimed there is a chance god exists; if that's not based on objective facts, you're full of shit. It's that simple.
So I'm presenting you with a choice: back up your claim with your next post, admit you're wrong, or be blocked. Pick one.
Furthermore, you are transparently dodging my question to avoid exposure of your false premise on which your atheism is based.
Let's try this again, now read my fingertips...
How do you know that everything in existence isn't the objective/empirical evidence for God in and of itself, when you're devoid of any objective/empirical evidence to render yours as anything other than wishful fantasy faith in perpetually indemonstrable alleged natural processes to have been responsible?
How could you possibly know if everything in existence isn't the objective *DIRECT evidence* for God?
There is no "DIRECT" objective/empirical evidence to support the notion of natural processes to be responsible for the origination of the universe and viable life.
You're the one making the positive claim of life being "just chemicals that have fitted together in a mutually beneficial way, nothing more"
@LizardLeaps That life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way is all we have evidence for; trying to claim that a god exists with even LESS evidence than we have for the bio-chemical part of life is playing Pretend™ with yourself and them forgetting you're just makin' shit up.
Unless you have evidence of god's existence--direct, objective, empirical evidence--your claim of god's existence is nothing more than a fairy tale.
"That life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way is all we have evidence for;"
Wrongio again, as you lack any objective/empirical evidence of natural processes enabling non-living inanimate "chemicals to fit together" which then defines them as being living "mutually beneficial" biological organisms.
You've put the cart before the horse and before everything else in existence for that matter, only to have arrived at fallacious conclusion.
Unless you have evidence of god's existence--direct, objective, empirical evidence--your claim of god's existence is nothing more than a fairy tale.
Wrongio again and as usual.
Unless you have "direct, objective/empirical evidence" for your positive assertion that viable living organisms can credit their origination to "just" random, coincidental, natural chemical interactions, (which you don't and can't)...
...then you're failing your burden to prove anything but that your premises are false, you're operating in wishful fantasy faith, thus you fail for your denial of the "very real possibility" of God's existence. Furthermore, your deceitful attempt to avert/shift your burden of proof is conspicuously exposed by your Straw Man claim for having stated; "your claim" in fallacious attribution.
My actual claim was and is "the very real possibility" of God's existence.
You have unwittingly assumed the burden of proof for your reckless assertion/s.
Present the objective/empirical "DIRECT" evidence which demonstrates your knowledge assertion as veracious by defining the mechanistic process responsible for biological organisms to have arisen from non-living materials-from the pre-biotic earth?
Yes you do...that's if you wish to demonstrate your positive assertion of *life just being no more than chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way* is veracious.
The fact that viable life can be defined with unique characteristic, eg.( "mutually beneficial") distinguishing it/them from inanimate non-living matter does nothing to explain the phenomenon of life itself or the actual process/es responsible for its/their origination.
"the question is why YOU think a god exists and has anything to do with it"
That's not *the question* but this is your deceitful attempt to avert your burden to prove your positive assertion for claiming that *life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way*
The real question is; "how could you possibly dismiss "the very real possibility of God's existence" based on your false premise of there being "no evidence for God's existence"...
...when you haven't an iota of objective/empirical evidence supporting your notion of everything in existence (including viable life's origination) by purely random naturalistic self-propagated means, from inanimate non-living materials?
What you fail to realize is, without any proof and/or objective/empirical evidence to support your positive claim, you just prove your hypocrisy while operating in wishful fantasy faith... for asserting this in factual terms.
I just want to say...I hate all of your videos. You aren't Carl Saigan. You're a lesbian hybrid human with an opinion, who cares what you have to say?
Secondly, if you don't like her videos then go watch something else. Why bother watching them if you hate them so much? Obviously some people care or are interested in her opinion, because she has several subscribers.
If I said Fried Chicken was delicious, and you came up to me and said "NO! Fried Chicken is simply the limbs of a chicken deep fried and flavored! NOT DELICIOUS SILLY!" It would be the equivalent of this video. Oh and Wikipedia references too.
@BionicDance Call it what you wish,it exists and unless you can prove it doesn't,I'll keep on believing in my God and that life is more than material.
@sai10000 You only can't be convinced because you don't WANT to be convinced, because you are impervious to logic, reason, and evidence when it comes to god.
I, on the other hand, CAN be convinced...just not with faith. Provide evidence--empirical, objective evidence--that removes the need for faith, and I'll believe.
@BionicDance I have told you before,Lady,that we could offer all the proof in the world and atheists wouldn't listen,therefore I refuse to debate any further with you.I am,in fact, a brick wall whose foundation cannot be shaken.You are the same,therefore I leave you to your mistaken beliefs and pray that God will get to you before it's too late.
u offer no proof,that's the problem. u claim that atheists could be provided with all the proof in the world, we still wouldn't believe..hmm, maybe we could test out your claim if u actually presented this proof!
bionicdance said to u: "When your proof doesn't rely on FAITH, then and only then will you convince us."
your response to this was: "Remember that when you stand before GOD and he asks you why you never listened."
u try and instill fear instead of offering an argument.
I am so glad I do not share your worldview. Such a worldview as that has to deny imagination and creativity and literature as valid things. It has to deny happiness and science as well as religion and spirtuality. However, it it works for you more power to you.
Life is a 3 billion year old dynamic disequilibrium. Light a candle, that's all life is, except the burning is a little less hot and a lot more complicated.
Death is the cause for cavemen to come up with the human machination known as the afterlife. Of course the term afterlife could simply refer to rotting in the ground and becoming fossilized if that's what you meant okay.
i found you on zjempty's recomended list. subscribed because i like this video. i try to explain to people that objectively speaking life is not better than non-life or vice versa, but they don't get it. i don't think there is anything super spectacular with living objects over non-living objects. anyhow thumbs up have a good one.
Actually, you did make a TEENSY error. and i need to correct you. A tree is alive but it cannot, walk, talk, think or communicate, nor is it self-aware. but still it IS alive.
I agree with you, Kate. Life is not supernatural nor magical in any sense. Yet:
ENJOY LIFE!
In my case: enjoy sex, good food and beverages, friends, nature and beautiful tech like the Web, brought forth by people ceased to be or still living.
(Love would be on the list of many folks, I'm sure; but for me, love has yet to trump sex regarding the ratio of good to bad personal memories. :-)
I admit to having a bit of an awe when considering life, but its not becouse I subscribe to any view of it beeing magical. Its just that life seems to be so rare and fragile in a harsh and unforgiving universe...
But suspect you can understand my feeling of awe... :)
my apologies; I should not have implied your statement was coming from a religious origin.
but I do disagree that language is not reducible to biology. Language is a physical construct, physically used and physically experienced. Even the images or memories language evokes are stored in a chemical manner in the brain.
Mmm, there are many definitions for "life." It depends in what context we're talking what it means. For example, sometimes something is only "life" to me if it has a mind. If I'm talking biology and science I don't feel like I'm using the same word of "life" as I am when talking philosophically. If someone asks me "what is life" I assume they are coming at it philosophically. So life is that which has a mind. I don't care about anything else in that sense.
I don't feel like I exist physically though. I feel like the mind is an emergent non-physical property from physical things. I don't think I'm *beyond* my body, by which I mean that everything that *is* me comes from and is a part of my body, but I also don't know how sensations can *be* only physical, and I don't even know what it would mean to be "not physical" or transcendent.
To be clear, this isn't what I believe, this isn't what I know, it's what I feel, and I suffer from no delusions about how reliable my "feelings* are.
That life is nothing more than biology is NOT unflattering! In reality, there is no difference between Snails, lizards, squids & humans; Despite that hard fact, look at who we are! What we are capable of! The beneficial technologies that we have accomplished! Even though we are nothing more than chemical disequilibrium!
Reality is infinitely more fascinating than any magical worldview. The strongest, most stable foundation for anyone's spirituality is within the known universe.
I don't know, I still find those complex chemical reactions to be special anyway. Biological processes with their complex array of chemical reactions and even electricity is still quite amazing to me. I'm a big science geek though.
@yeahwotevaman So show, if you can, how life is MORE than biological functions.
I don't care HOW unflattering you might find that notion; if you cannot prove your case for life being more than biology, why should your position carry any weight?
What you say may be true in some objective sense, but the irrational corner of my mind still has the subjective sense that there is something special about life, at least the current collection of life forms on earth. Those of us who are sentient have the capacity to contemplate possibilities beyond the strictly material. We are also able to choose to form relationships with each other, and I find something "special" about that, rationally or otherwise.
@jebus6kryst But what it's not is MAGICAL, which is what is meant by "special" when the proponents of "life is more than just biology" mean when they say "special".
First off great video! I think people have this impression that life is "special" cos it seems certain parameters need to exist for life to exist which we only see here on earth. But I suspect there is life everywhere in the universe especially complex life like we have here, with the number of stars and the number of planets around those stars the chances are more than probable. Also there are animals who are conscious of their existence it's ignorant of humans to think we are the only ones.
Why does it matter if it's made of cells or not? Bioinic dance this is really quite a shitty point you make here.
You're not wrong, in what you say except that "Life isn't as special as we make it out"...
Well, it is the most complex mechanical structure known, it's the only chemical structure of matter that has ever produced consciousness, as far as we know...
Who are you to call your opinion of what's special "Truth" and demand we bow to it? I like your vids... but this one is not great.
@UncleWaddyHead Love the Twain quote but it's not entirely valid. The difference between before birth and after death is that one has consciousness preceding it. I don't buy any living adult who claims to lack fear of death.
@yeahwotevaman Yes, there ARE theoretical models that account for consciousness. Watch a Dan Dennett lecture; he talks about it.
And yes, physical processes DO address the totality of what life is. Maybe they're not interpretive of our experience of BEING alive, but the existence of life and consciousness ARE explained by science.
Well, the concept of "life" is used in many different meanings. First: it is used as in this video, meaning the attributes of matter which differentiates organisms from inorganic matter: in this sense life is synonymous with the category of the biological. Second: it is used as the NARRATIVE of one's conscious experiences in time, like in "I had a great life". Thirdly, life may also refer to conscious experience of existence, like in "I think therefore I am".
@BionicDance Yes it is, but not in direct congruence. You can not replace one with the other. Consciousness rests, depends and exists because of the brain-matter, but it is not interchangeable with it one on one. In other words organized matter of the brain supports the emergence of the systems (like language) which in turn working together as a system allows for the emergence of consciousness. When the brain dies, consciousness dies with it of course. Look up the problem of 'qualia'.
@eydos I would also add, that eliminative materialism does not account for emergent properties which arise from lower-level elements of matter organizing into complex systems which in turn produce new laws of functioning inexplicable through only the elements of the system for they begin to exist only when the system is already in place. Consciousness is a system which builds onto the biological but itself is more than the mere sum of its parts.
I do not think you can reduce all "life" down to chemical reactions. Life is complex and seems to have emergent properties. For example aren't there some species of ants that make slaves out of other ants? You have to consider the ants acting as a whole to explain this behaviour. I do not think you can explain this by chemical reactions alone, can you?
Fair question: Chemical reactions may be part of the explanation yes, but I can't fully explain this behaviour without considering the ants as a group. They seem to be more than the sum of their parts. Much like turbulence. You cannot explain turbulence by individual molecules. You have to understand how the air or water molecules are acting as a whole.
@DrInfidel These are "speculations" the way GRAVITY is a speculation. Look it up; these are facts for which we have TONS of evidence, to the point where doubting it would be as foolish as doubting gravity.
You don't appear to have done an OUNCE of research, despite your claims.
@PeterThenn You have reasons...but they are neither reasonable nor reasoned, they are not based in the facts.
When presented with the FACTS, many people shy away from them because they find them unflattering; they don't want to BE nothing more than matter.
Well...poor babies. Boo hoo. Why do they NEED it to be more so very badly, to the point where they go into fact-denial and start makin' stuff up? Why can they not accept the facts, the knowable, when it explains what we see?
@BionicDance so if they were products of matter, wouldn't that make them different from matter?
what do the chemicals do to produce our thoughts, emotions, memories, and dreams? for example, It's said that with heat and cold, heat is caused by matter/particles moving at a fast pace, while coolness is caused by matter/particles moving at a slow pace.
They're products of matter but CANNOT be separate from matter any more than the results of a computer's computing can be separate from the hardware and software. If the device stops functioning, the product ceases to exist.
@DevilWomanCake The problem here is that this SHOULD be self-evident, and 500 characters just isn't enough to do the explanation justice.
But think about how a species survives, what survival (and eventual reproduction) means to evolution, and how that will grow upon itself in a cumulative effect. From stimulus-response to self-awareness to intellectual capacity, matter became self-aware for no reason other than self-preservation.
Oh, I don't know, I don't think that life has any magic or anything like that but still think it's pretty cool. I am fasinated by those nature shows that show the planets bio-divercity. But that's just my opinion.
I am forever surprised by the idea that knowing exactly what life is somehow makes it less special. The complex interactions that are metabolic functions and the emergent properties they can be the basis for are special by way of being rare without the need for "magic" or "spirit" or anything fantastic.
I'm unlikely, so is BionicDance and all these commenters. We hold a special place in the universe as that which can observe and understand the universe. Grok dat?
@BionicDance I'll latch on to special if I wanna! :P
My comment was for those who think it's necessary to have that magic in order to have the special. It's not a direct comment on your points in the video, just a thought on the side.
@YuiDaoren It's just really annoying right now. People have latched onto the word "special" as if thinking life is "really neato!" debunks the content of the video...never mind that I'm CLEARLY talking about supernatural magic. *psigh*rolls eyes*
You're not the only one; a LOT of people have pulled this shit. It's really annoying.
@BionicDance As I said, I'm not "one" at all, never mind the only one. I've pulled no shit, as I've not debunked a single thing in your video nor attempted to. I just aired a thought that came to mind while watching it. =^_^=
Annoying they may be, please don't lump me in with 'em. Think, don't run on automatic. ;)
(Ooh. Do you have that as a bumper sticker at your store? I'm gonna go look, know a few people they'd make good sticking stuffers for.)
@YuiDaoren I'm just really annoyed at this point, where people seem so determined to misunderstand, to think a single word is the whole of the video, rather than listening to the entire argument presented. It's just really frustrating.
I don't have a bumper sticker, no; I'll have to look and see if you can even make one. I don't think so.
@Transjenny1969 Do souls actually exist? If we assume that they do, what connects them to our bodies? Where do they come from? Where do they go after we die? Do babies have souls? Fetuses? Fertilized ova? Sperm cells? If a baby has a soul, just like me, then why is it that I am more conscious about myself and my environment than a baby?
To me this is one of the most profound facts about our existence: we are all just piles of atoms, ordered in a very specific way. This viewpoint automatically leads to a very intriguing question: what makes the pile of atoms that is me behave so very differently from the pile of atoms that makes up my desk? Saying that I have a soul whereas my desk does not is just a cop-out, not a true answer, in my opinion.
@Transjenny1969 is there any evidence that "souls" actually exist? (what do you mean by "soul"? mind? in a religious sense? counciousness?...) and don't tell me about the 21 grams... this still under research yet the metaphisic explanation it's been debunked...
We all come from material that originated in the stars which originated at the big bang. We are all part of the same energy. Connected since the beginning. We will remain connected for as long as there is a universe.Nothing truly ever goes away. We just change form but are still part of the same universe. we just had the opportunity to get a glance at ourselves and think about what we are.
ok, this is off topic (kinda) of this video, but if you haven't seen it, i recommend you do. its called the fourth kind, and its about aliens, with real video recordings of events that the people in the movie reenact while in another slide the video is there. anyway it can give you many thoughts about many different things. right now all i know is that its on HBO on demand. if you have that, great, if you dont, find it at a movie store.
Yeah but isn't life responsible for the Force? And we know the Force is real because the Jedi and Sith use it. And we know they are real because they are in a few movies, books games and tv shows . . . checkmate ajedis!
well, i'd say there is no mutually beneficial grouping of atoms and molecules, if take it your way. since there is no real benefit for energy to behave like that. it only happend, that there would be the first microbes. Life only prevailed in it's known from because of evolution. Suicidal combinations (that most likely existed in the beginning) would most likely have no offspring. So only the lifeforms that clinged to life most would have offspring whit that inherited trait.
I understand, you're trying to oppose those who let their imaginations take them too far and I agree with your point there. I do think, however, that the brain, especially the human brain is a very special thing, worth a while, worth a second look. I'm not talking about supernatural, I'm only sayin; the human brain is special in it's own meaty right : )
My LIFE experience differs from yours so I think; based on that; consciousness is more than chemical reactions and electronic impulses. A coma patient by your definition is alive but is that really life? being Marxist/Lennonist (groucho/john) I'd say "You bet your life! Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans" and because I'm a fucking genius as sensitive as sit I'd never join a club (or take a label) that would have me as a member.
moldrad 2 weeks ago
@moldrad Yes, a coma patient IS alive.
I'm asking a purely biological question here; you are going off-topic, talking about experience instead of biology.
BionicDance 2 weeks ago
kanira backstaber, lol
beeto45 1 month ago
BUT I dont think you should pray to God thats disempowering. And your prayers wont be answered. Life is what you make it this reality however spirituality and imagination is where the human Soul is at Home. All ideologies are enemies of man. As aforesaid the very fact you EXIST in a REALITY is amazing. the fact that there IS a reality is amazing. just... take some mushrooms in silent darkness if you have a few hours to spare my dear friend.
psygenesys 1 month ago
I am against religion BUT I do beleive in a GOD.
Let me tell you something Sepparatist Squares. I took 5 grams of psilocybin and I asked myself: ''Is there a God'' ? Then, I looked at this reality and the very fact that empty space EXISTS is a MIRACLE plus on top of that theres matter AND life and life is too beautiful to have been an accident. I do not beleive in a God that intervenes in peoples lives because thats REAL FREE WILL. I dont think your infantile psyche can comprehend the wonder
psygenesys 1 month ago
Furthermore, there is no empirical evidence, working model/s, empirically known/knowable pathway or viable hypothesis or even the ability for scientific methodology to test and definitively explain the rise of life on earth, yet you seem to think you have it all figured out.
And since you lack any objective evidence or proof in support of your assertions, allow me to inform you of the reality in "fact" that you're robustly operating by wishful fantasy faith, whilst stated as if "fact"
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
Says who, you and your alleged respect for "facts, truth" and Wikipedia's stale definitions?
You're miserably failing to appreciate the mindbogglingly, scientific stymieing, logically indeclinable and miraculous qualities of what life is.
You're just demonstrating desperation to believe that living organism's can credit their origination to random, chemical-material interactions, by coincidental happenstance in a pitiful attempt to dismiss the very real possibility of God from the equation.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps "Very real possibility"...? How do you figure? Where is the evidence for god? And I mean the DIRECT evidence, not the god-of-the-gaps nonsense.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"Very real possibility"...? How do you figure?"
Probably the same way that you do with one exception...that being with an open mind to all possibilities empirically unknown or unknowable.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps Naw, see...if you thought there was a "very real possibility", you'd have evidence to back it up.
...OR you're making stuff up and taking yourself too seriously.
Which is it?
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"Naw, see...if you thought there was a "very real possibility", you'd have evidence to back it up"
Wrongio, see...if you wish to dismiss the “very real possibility“, you'd have to back it up with objective evidence that the universe and viable life can credit their origination to purely naturalistic mechanistic processes, precluding God.
Your subsequent fallacious correlation, invalid loaded question and false dichotomy are disqualified on their logically fallacious faces.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps No. YOU'RE the one making the positive claim, kiddo. YOU'RE the one saying there'z a possibility that something is real. YOU'RE the one who has to back it up with facts. Anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and your "very real possibility" has ZERO evidence.
So, sorry, but the burden of proof is YOURS; I'm simply pointing out that you're full of shit.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"No. YOU'RE the one making the positive claim, kiddo. YOU'RE the one saying there'z a possibility that something is real"
Wrongio Finster, I don't *have to back up with facts the very real possibility of God's existence*
Yours is a non-sequitur for it's irrelevancy to science by very definition...for inability to subject to scientific testability, that which isn't falsifiable in hypothesis and which is purported as being in essence of the Supernatural.
But it get's worse...
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps You are making a claim of existence; if you don't back it up with facts, you're full of shit. End of story.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
You cannot regress in time to implement the scientific method to gain empirical knowledge definitively explaining that which was/is responsible for life having arisen from non-living matter.
Consequently, yours is a wishful faith in *life being just no more than chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way*
You're in denial/self-deceived if you really believe yours isn't a positive claim, stated as if fact, without any objective/empirical evidence in support.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps Even if you can't go back in time, that does NOT grant you an exemption from having to produce empirical, objective evidence to prove your claims. You don't get a pass on having to provide a way to verify what you're saying.
You have claimed there is a chance god exists; if that's not based on objective facts, you're full of shit. It's that simple.
So I'm presenting you with a choice: back up your claim with your next post, admit you're wrong, or be blocked. Pick one.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
Furthermore, you are transparently dodging my question to avoid exposure of your false premise on which your atheism is based.
Let's try this again, now read my fingertips...
How do you know that everything in existence isn't the objective/empirical evidence for God in and of itself, when you're devoid of any objective/empirical evidence to render yours as anything other than wishful fantasy faith in perpetually indemonstrable alleged natural processes to have been responsible?
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps You had you r chance. Goodbye.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"Where is the evidence for god?"
Where isn't the evidence for God?
How could you possibly know if everything in existence isn't the objective *DIRECT evidence* for God?
There is no "DIRECT" objective/empirical evidence to support the notion of natural processes to be responsible for the origination of the universe and viable life.
You're the one making the positive claim of life being "just chemicals that have fitted together in a mutually beneficial way, nothing more"
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps That life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way is all we have evidence for; trying to claim that a god exists with even LESS evidence than we have for the bio-chemical part of life is playing Pretend™ with yourself and them forgetting you're just makin' shit up.
Unless you have evidence of god's existence--direct, objective, empirical evidence--your claim of god's existence is nothing more than a fairy tale.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"That life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way is all we have evidence for;"
Wrongio again, as you lack any objective/empirical evidence of natural processes enabling non-living inanimate "chemicals to fit together" which then defines them as being living "mutually beneficial" biological organisms.
You've put the cart before the horse and before everything else in existence for that matter, only to have arrived at fallacious conclusion.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
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@BionicDance
Unless you have evidence of god's existence--direct, objective, empirical evidence--your claim of god's existence is nothing more than a fairy tale.
Wrongio again and as usual.
Unless you have "direct, objective/empirical evidence" for your positive assertion that viable living organisms can credit their origination to "just" random, coincidental, natural chemical interactions, (which you don't and can't)...
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LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@BionicDance
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...then you're failing your burden to prove anything but that your premises are false, you're operating in wishful fantasy faith, thus you fail for your denial of the "very real possibility" of God's existence. Furthermore, your deceitful attempt to avert/shift your burden of proof is conspicuously exposed by your Straw Man claim for having stated; "your claim" in fallacious attribution.
My actual claim was and is "the very real possibility" of God's existence.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@BionicDance
You have unwittingly assumed the burden of proof for your reckless assertion/s.
Present the objective/empirical "DIRECT" evidence which demonstrates your knowledge assertion as veracious by defining the mechanistic process responsible for biological organisms to have arisen from non-living materials-from the pre-biotic earth?
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@LizardLeaps I don't have to; the question is why YOU think a god exists and has anything to do with it.
BionicDance 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"I don't have to;..."
Yes you do...that's if you wish to demonstrate your positive assertion of *life just being no more than chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way* is veracious.
The fact that viable life can be defined with unique characteristic, eg.( "mutually beneficial") distinguishing it/them from inanimate non-living matter does nothing to explain the phenomenon of life itself or the actual process/es responsible for its/their origination.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@BionicDance
"the question is why YOU think a god exists and has anything to do with it"
That's not *the question* but this is your deceitful attempt to avert your burden to prove your positive assertion for claiming that *life is just chemicals that have fit together in a mutually beneficial way*
The real question is; "how could you possibly dismiss "the very real possibility of God's existence" based on your false premise of there being "no evidence for God's existence"...
(continued...
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
@BionicDance
(continued...
...when you haven't an iota of objective/empirical evidence supporting your notion of everything in existence (including viable life's origination) by purely random naturalistic self-propagated means, from inanimate non-living materials?
What you fail to realize is, without any proof and/or objective/empirical evidence to support your positive claim, you just prove your hypocrisy while operating in wishful fantasy faith... for asserting this in factual terms.
LizardLeaps 3 months ago
I just want to say...I hate all of your videos. You aren't Carl Saigan. You're a lesbian hybrid human with an opinion, who cares what you have to say?
mobilesuitZer0 7 months ago
@mobilesuitZer0
First of all, what's a hybrid human exactly? 0.o
Secondly, if you don't like her videos then go watch something else. Why bother watching them if you hate them so much? Obviously some people care or are interested in her opinion, because she has several subscribers.
And it's Carl Sagan.
Diemedes 6 months ago
If I said Fried Chicken was delicious, and you came up to me and said "NO! Fried Chicken is simply the limbs of a chicken deep fried and flavored! NOT DELICIOUS SILLY!" It would be the equivalent of this video. Oh and Wikipedia references too.
AirKhan45 1 year ago
This is an AWESOME truthful video. I studied this in college, but religion seems to want to call life more than what it is.
realigiousrayne 1 year ago
i see dandruff in her hair
imnotthisoldlol 1 year ago
I suppose atheism and materialism go hand in hand.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 They more or less have to...although I SUPPOSE someone could not believe in a god--and thus be an atheist--while still believing in magic.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Call it what you wish,it exists and unless you can prove it doesn't,I'll keep on believing in my God and that life is more than material.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 What ELSE do you believe in until someone can prove it doesn't exist? Gnomes? Fairies? Goblins? *raised eyebrow*
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance I have never heard tell that they do exist,save in stories.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 Same for god: stories.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Very well,do as you wish.I cannot convince you and you cannot convince me,therefor,there's no use in debate.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 You only can't be convinced because you don't WANT to be convinced, because you are impervious to logic, reason, and evidence when it comes to god.
I, on the other hand, CAN be convinced...just not with faith. Provide evidence--empirical, objective evidence--that removes the need for faith, and I'll believe.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance I have told you before,Lady,that we could offer all the proof in the world and atheists wouldn't listen,therefore I refuse to debate any further with you.I am,in fact, a brick wall whose foundation cannot be shaken.You are the same,therefore I leave you to your mistaken beliefs and pray that God will get to you before it's too late.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 You'ven ever offered any proof IN THE WORLD...you offer happy thoughts but no REAL evidence. That's the problem.
When your proof doesn't rely on FAITH, then and only then will you convince us.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Remember that when you stand before GOD and he asks you why you never listened.
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 Prove there'z a god, or you're just telling ghost stories.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@sai10000
u offer no proof,that's the problem. u claim that atheists could be provided with all the proof in the world, we still wouldn't believe..hmm, maybe we could test out your claim if u actually presented this proof!
bionicdance said to u: "When your proof doesn't rely on FAITH, then and only then will you convince us."
your response to this was: "Remember that when you stand before GOD and he asks you why you never listened."
u try and instill fear instead of offering an argument.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
I am so glad I do not share your worldview. Such a worldview as that has to deny imagination and creativity and literature as valid things. It has to deny happiness and science as well as religion and spirtuality. However, it it works for you more power to you.
phlewis86 1 year ago
@phlewis86 No, it isn't. I HAVE imagination...I just don't go around pretending it's REAL.
Without creativity, I wouldn't have my webcomic; I just don't need belief in fictional things being real to enjoy it or make it.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance You're are right. in that you are creative so I will rethink my response.
phlewis86 1 year ago
This is nothing more than the subjective opinion of a pessimistic, philosophically bankrupt, know-it-all.
revo1974 1 year ago
Life is a 3 billion year old dynamic disequilibrium. Light a candle, that's all life is, except the burning is a little less hot and a lot more complicated.
WorBlux 1 year ago
Wikipedia isn't exactly the way to prove a point and...where's your proof that life is just a product of our brains?
sai10000 1 year ago
Wikipedia isn't exactly the way to prove a point
sai10000 1 year ago
@sai10000 what's wrong with wikipedia? do you read conservapedia?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 I mean that wikipedia is unreliable because it can be edited
sai10000 1 year ago
okay everythink u say is true. BUT. u are using TO MUCH Hairspay ;-)
Zombiepull 1 year ago
Life is the cause of death.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
@JamesThWilliams
So we might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
@JamesThWilliams and death is the cause of the eternal afterlife. Word playing. Dont you love it?
mynameisabu1 1 year ago
@mynameisabu1
Death is the cause for cavemen to come up with the human machination known as the afterlife. Of course the term afterlife could simply refer to rotting in the ground and becoming fossilized if that's what you meant okay.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
@JamesThWilliams yeh? so what do you call the period when your still in your mothers stomach?
mynameisabu1 1 year ago
i found you on zjempty's recomended list. subscribed because i like this video. i try to explain to people that objectively speaking life is not better than non-life or vice versa, but they don't get it. i don't think there is anything super spectacular with living objects over non-living objects. anyhow thumbs up have a good one.
greycloud24 1 year ago
Actually, you did make a TEENSY error. and i need to correct you. A tree is alive but it cannot, walk, talk, think or communicate, nor is it self-aware. but still it IS alive.
boyceps 1 year ago
@boyceps ...precisely where did I say it wasn't?
BionicDance 1 year ago
I agree with you, Kate. Life is not supernatural nor magical in any sense. Yet:
ENJOY LIFE!
In my case: enjoy sex, good food and beverages, friends, nature and beautiful tech like the Web, brought forth by people ceased to be or still living.
(Love would be on the list of many folks, I'm sure; but for me, love has yet to trump sex regarding the ratio of good to bad personal memories. :-)
virumoz 1 year ago
its a joke. life is. a sick fuckin joke.
BRm2008 1 year ago
I admit to having a bit of an awe when considering life, but its not becouse I subscribe to any view of it beeing magical. Its just that life seems to be so rare and fragile in a harsh and unforgiving universe...
But suspect you can understand my feeling of awe... :)
grape387 1 year ago
Head meat? That is awesome!!!
Jaelra 1 year ago
@Jaelra And, let's face it...accurate. :)
Pretty sure I stole the term from "Invader Zim" tho; wish I'd made it up.
Thanks for watching! :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it, whistle, whistle....
Desertphile 1 year ago 2
@yeahwotevaman
my apologies; I should not have implied your statement was coming from a religious origin.
but I do disagree that language is not reducible to biology. Language is a physical construct, physically used and physically experienced. Even the images or memories language evokes are stored in a chemical manner in the brain.
jjjohn 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman
"Things exist beyond 'just' biology that are wholy within the realm of life that are metaphysical in nature,"
Like what? This type of statement is usually at the core of theist / non-theist debates; the idea that there must be something 'more'. Why?
jjjohn 1 year ago
Mmm, there are many definitions for "life." It depends in what context we're talking what it means. For example, sometimes something is only "life" to me if it has a mind. If I'm talking biology and science I don't feel like I'm using the same word of "life" as I am when talking philosophically. If someone asks me "what is life" I assume they are coming at it philosophically. So life is that which has a mind. I don't care about anything else in that sense.
(cont...)
sandform 1 year ago
(Cont)
I don't feel like I exist physically though. I feel like the mind is an emergent non-physical property from physical things. I don't think I'm *beyond* my body, by which I mean that everything that *is* me comes from and is a part of my body, but I also don't know how sensations can *be* only physical, and I don't even know what it would mean to be "not physical" or transcendent.
(cont...)
sandform 1 year ago
(cont)
To be clear, this isn't what I believe, this isn't what I know, it's what I feel, and I suffer from no delusions about how reliable my "feelings* are.
sandform 1 year ago
That life is nothing more than biology is NOT unflattering! In reality, there is no difference between Snails, lizards, squids & humans; Despite that hard fact, look at who we are! What we are capable of! The beneficial technologies that we have accomplished! Even though we are nothing more than chemical disequilibrium!
Reality is infinitely more fascinating than any magical worldview. The strongest, most stable foundation for anyone's spirituality is within the known universe.
727Phoenix 1 year ago
I don't know, I still find those complex chemical reactions to be special anyway. Biological processes with their complex array of chemical reactions and even electricity is still quite amazing to me. I'm a big science geek though.
sonnygll 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman So show, if you can, how life is MORE than biological functions.
I don't care HOW unflattering you might find that notion; if you cannot prove your case for life being more than biology, why should your position carry any weight?
BionicDance 1 year ago
Oh my bionic sensei, is there no level of enlightenment that you have not reached? :3
nunyabizzzzzzz 1 year ago
@nunyabizzzzzzz My child, I have yet to master understanding of the appeal of country music. ;)
BionicDance 1 year ago 3
oooooh probulater!!!!
CyberDraco 1 year ago
Very nice !
V0r4xiz 1 year ago
Nice video BionicDance....although I think it would have been better if you did your best Carl Sagan impression....
^_^
Seriously...I could swear I heard the "Cosmos" music coming from somewhere while watching this!
rationallegomaniac 1 year ago
@rationallegomaniac Yeah, well...Carl Sagan rocks, so I'll take that as a compliment. :)
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Indeed, Carl Sagan was awesome. I still miss him to this day...*sniff
rationallegomaniac 1 year ago
Life is a bunch of filler before death.
You can make it fun if you're born lucky.
Also being born.
Niveous23 1 year ago
It might not be magic but I still think it's pretty darn special. ^_^
Arikiel 1 year ago
Well I do view life as something special due to its rarity in our universe.
rarity gives a special meaning to something for good or evil and I think that needs to be acknowledged.
inquiry10 1 year ago
Life is extra special.
It just isn't extra.
Sines314 1 year ago
What you say may be true in some objective sense, but the irrational corner of my mind still has the subjective sense that there is something special about life, at least the current collection of life forms on earth. Those of us who are sentient have the capacity to contemplate possibilities beyond the strictly material. We are also able to choose to form relationships with each other, and I find something "special" about that, rationally or otherwise.
Puchicas9 1 year ago
@Puchicas9 Well, that's not what this video is talking about.
This video is talking about the people who think that life has to come from magic, from the supernatural.
The title is "What IS life?", not "How Do We Feel About Life?"
BionicDance 1 year ago
What's wrong with just saying we are animals?
thereforeithought 1 year ago
@thereforeithought As far as I'm concerned...nothing.
But if you listen to the theists tell it...! Egad! Boy, do they seem to hate that!
BionicDance 1 year ago
Everything you said about life is true, yet that is exactly why life is so special.
jebus6kryst 1 year ago
@jebus6kryst But what it's not is MAGICAL, which is what is meant by "special" when the proponents of "life is more than just biology" mean when they say "special".
BionicDance 1 year ago
First off great video! I think people have this impression that life is "special" cos it seems certain parameters need to exist for life to exist which we only see here on earth. But I suspect there is life everywhere in the universe especially complex life like we have here, with the number of stars and the number of planets around those stars the chances are more than probable. Also there are animals who are conscious of their existence it's ignorant of humans to think we are the only ones.
DJBerber 1 year ago
Why does it matter if it's made of cells or not? Bioinic dance this is really quite a shitty point you make here.
You're not wrong, in what you say except that "Life isn't as special as we make it out"...
Well, it is the most complex mechanical structure known, it's the only chemical structure of matter that has ever produced consciousness, as far as we know...
Who are you to call your opinion of what's special "Truth" and demand we bow to it? I like your vids... but this one is not great.
JiubLink 1 year ago
@JiubLink By "special", I'm talking the people who insist that it has to be MAGICAL. As in literally SUPERNATURAL.
Don't latch onto the word "special" as if it meant something else in this video; you should have gotten this from context, frankly.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman This video isn't ABOUT "experience", it's about LIFE. AS in the quality of being alive, and what makes it possible or so.
It's about how the religious like to insist that life requires a kind of god-given divine magic.
It's almost as if you didn't actually WATCH or HEAR what was in the vid. *raised eyebrow*
BionicDance 1 year ago
@UncleWaddyHead Love the Twain quote but it's not entirely valid. The difference between before birth and after death is that one has consciousness preceding it. I don't buy any living adult who claims to lack fear of death.
andid 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman Yes, there ARE theoretical models that account for consciousness. Watch a Dan Dennett lecture; he talks about it.
And yes, physical processes DO address the totality of what life is. Maybe they're not interpretive of our experience of BEING alive, but the existence of life and consciousness ARE explained by science.
BionicDance 1 year ago
Put up a "probulator" video, plox!
FreeThoughtCrime 1 year ago
Well, the concept of "life" is used in many different meanings. First: it is used as in this video, meaning the attributes of matter which differentiates organisms from inorganic matter: in this sense life is synonymous with the category of the biological. Second: it is used as the NARRATIVE of one's conscious experiences in time, like in "I had a great life". Thirdly, life may also refer to conscious experience of existence, like in "I think therefore I am".
eydos 1 year ago
@eydos This third is a product of the first.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance Yes it is, but not in direct congruence. You can not replace one with the other. Consciousness rests, depends and exists because of the brain-matter, but it is not interchangeable with it one on one. In other words organized matter of the brain supports the emergence of the systems (like language) which in turn working together as a system allows for the emergence of consciousness. When the brain dies, consciousness dies with it of course. Look up the problem of 'qualia'.
eydos 1 year ago
@eydos You're not saying anything I didn't in the video, frankly.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance :)))) In the end your video is a perfect way of smashing some sensitive fairy-tales, thats for sure. lol
eydos 1 year ago
@eydos I would also add, that eliminative materialism does not account for emergent properties which arise from lower-level elements of matter organizing into complex systems which in turn produce new laws of functioning inexplicable through only the elements of the system for they begin to exist only when the system is already in place. Consciousness is a system which builds onto the biological but itself is more than the mere sum of its parts.
eydos 1 year ago
I do not think you can reduce all "life" down to chemical reactions. Life is complex and seems to have emergent properties. For example aren't there some species of ants that make slaves out of other ants? You have to consider the ants acting as a whole to explain this behaviour. I do not think you can explain this by chemical reactions alone, can you?
Scootsalongcrib 1 year ago
@Scootsalongcrib Yes, I fucking well DO think we can explain this by chemical reactions.
Why don't you? *raised eyebrow*
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
Fair question: Chemical reactions may be part of the explanation yes, but I can't fully explain this behaviour without considering the ants as a group. They seem to be more than the sum of their parts. Much like turbulence. You cannot explain turbulence by individual molecules. You have to understand how the air or water molecules are acting as a whole.
Scootsalongcrib 1 year ago
@Scootsalongcrib What you're describing does not need anything but matter to exist, which was the point of this video.
BionicDance 1 year ago
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,Head meat!
h8red42 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman Conscious experience is NOT a mystery; science has explained it.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@DrInfidel You don't appear to have done the research. I'm sick of going around and around on this with you.
YES, WE HAVE THE SCIENCE ON THIS ONE.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@yeahwotevaman If by "spirituality", you mean the existence of a soul and not just philosophy, the system works WITHOUT that assumption.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@DrInfidel These are "speculations" the way GRAVITY is a speculation. Look it up; these are facts for which we have TONS of evidence, to the point where doubting it would be as foolish as doubting gravity.
You don't appear to have done an OUNCE of research, despite your claims.
BionicDance 1 year ago
If we are just meat robots then there is no free will.
Just programmed responses and random fluctations.
PeterThenn 1 year ago
@PeterThenn ...and?
How do you tell the difference between having free will and NOT having it?
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
I appear to have a choice.
It may be an illusion.
But prefer it to simply being a meat puppet.
PeterThenn 1 year ago
@PeterThenn What you prefer makes no difference. What ANYONE prefers makes no difference.
As you say, it may be an illusion...how do you tell?
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
It also means that creativity and inspiration are just random fluctuations.
At the beginning of the video, you asked why people believe in something more.
I am explaining my reasons, but you evidently do not care.
PeterThenn 1 year ago
@PeterThenn You have reasons...but they are neither reasonable nor reasoned, they are not based in the facts.
When presented with the FACTS, many people shy away from them because they find them unflattering; they don't want to BE nothing more than matter.
Well...poor babies. Boo hoo. Why do they NEED it to be more so very badly, to the point where they go into fact-denial and start makin' stuff up? Why can they not accept the facts, the knowable, when it explains what we see?
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance
Here is a fact.
Use Science to prove it.
'You are a Rationalist'
PeterThenn 1 year ago
@Transjenny1969 Prove that a soul exists...and that anybody needs one.
Everything that exists works perfectly fine WITHOUT a soul, and we've never seen any evidence of one.
BionicDance 1 year ago
I rated! I rated! Not the probulator!!
Ps Consciousness is a function of the meat but not the meat itself.
wunna lifes mysteries.
I am.
dalinean 1 year ago
@DrInfidel Have you actually LOOKED at the science? Yes, we DO know how consciousness arises and what life is.
BionicDance 1 year ago
are the thoughts, emotions, memories, and dreams of certain creatures made of matter, or are they generated by matter?
DevilWomanCake 1 year ago
@DevilWomanCake They are products of matter, yes.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance so if they were products of matter, wouldn't that make them different from matter?
what do the chemicals do to produce our thoughts, emotions, memories, and dreams? for example, It's said that with heat and cold, heat is caused by matter/particles moving at a fast pace, while coolness is caused by matter/particles moving at a slow pace.
DevilWomanCake 1 year ago
@DevilWomanCake No.
They're products of matter but CANNOT be separate from matter any more than the results of a computer's computing can be separate from the hardware and software. If the device stops functioning, the product ceases to exist.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance why does matter do this? why is it giving living things a "conciousness" so to speak? does it have a goal? or is it just random?
DevilWomanCake 1 year ago
@DevilWomanCake The problem here is that this SHOULD be self-evident, and 500 characters just isn't enough to do the explanation justice.
But think about how a species survives, what survival (and eventual reproduction) means to evolution, and how that will grow upon itself in a cumulative effect. From stimulus-response to self-awareness to intellectual capacity, matter became self-aware for no reason other than self-preservation.
Think about it.
BionicDance 1 year ago
I always just say "Life is a series of biochemical reactions and electrical impulses, nothing more, nothing less.
Vehementi 1 year ago
Head meats? i've been called a meathead before but not a headmeat ('till now :-p) Keep it up bionic! :-D
boyceps 1 year ago
Oh, I don't know, I don't think that life has any magic or anything like that but still think it's pretty cool. I am fasinated by those nature shows that show the planets bio-divercity. But that's just my opinion.
Disthron 1 year ago
For some reason, I liked the still image of you from your first upload more...
Segepop 1 year ago
I am forever surprised by the idea that knowing exactly what life is somehow makes it less special. The complex interactions that are metabolic functions and the emergent properties they can be the basis for are special by way of being rare without the need for "magic" or "spirit" or anything fantastic.
I'm unlikely, so is BionicDance and all these commenters. We hold a special place in the universe as that which can observe and understand the universe. Grok dat?
YuiDaoren 1 year ago
@YuiDaoren Don't latch onto that word "special"; listen to the actual content of the video.
I'm addressing the apparent magical nature of life that the religious try to claim; they think we're a spirit and not biology.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance I'll latch on to special if I wanna! :P
My comment was for those who think it's necessary to have that magic in order to have the special. It's not a direct comment on your points in the video, just a thought on the side.
YuiDaoren 1 year ago
@YuiDaoren It's just really annoying right now. People have latched onto the word "special" as if thinking life is "really neato!" debunks the content of the video...never mind that I'm CLEARLY talking about supernatural magic. *psigh*rolls eyes*
You're not the only one; a LOT of people have pulled this shit. It's really annoying.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance As I said, I'm not "one" at all, never mind the only one. I've pulled no shit, as I've not debunked a single thing in your video nor attempted to. I just aired a thought that came to mind while watching it. =^_^=
Annoying they may be, please don't lump me in with 'em. Think, don't run on automatic. ;)
(Ooh. Do you have that as a bumper sticker at your store? I'm gonna go look, know a few people they'd make good sticking stuffers for.)
YuiDaoren 1 year ago
@YuiDaoren I'm just really annoyed at this point, where people seem so determined to misunderstand, to think a single word is the whole of the video, rather than listening to the entire argument presented. It's just really frustrating.
I don't have a bumper sticker, no; I'll have to look and see if you can even make one. I don't think so.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance If CafePress can't, Zazzle can. =^_^=
YuiDaoren 1 year ago
@YuiDaoren I REALLY need to take the time to move to Zazzle, but I have sooooo much else I need to do.
Some day.
BionicDance 1 year ago
@BionicDance I can relate. Truly, as the condition of my own Zazzle store testifies.
YuiDaoren 1 year ago
This reminded me of the short sci-fi story "They're made out of meat" by Terry Bisson. Google it. It's great.
SpookyFan 1 year ago
@SpookyFan Read it years ago. :)
Yes, it IS great.
BionicDance 1 year ago
Reminds me of a definition used in the modeling and simulation class: "Life is anything that can die if we hit it hard enough" :).
DevelX666 1 year ago
Since I was a little boy I think EXACTLY the same way as you do... There is nothing intrinsicly "speacial" about life ou being alive...
Anyway... great video, as always!
fpissarra 1 year ago
A secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices.
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
@Transjenny1969 Do souls actually exist? If we assume that they do, what connects them to our bodies? Where do they come from? Where do they go after we die? Do babies have souls? Fetuses? Fertilized ova? Sperm cells? If a baby has a soul, just like me, then why is it that I am more conscious about myself and my environment than a baby?
ConsciousAtoms 1 year ago
To me this is one of the most profound facts about our existence: we are all just piles of atoms, ordered in a very specific way. This viewpoint automatically leads to a very intriguing question: what makes the pile of atoms that is me behave so very differently from the pile of atoms that makes up my desk? Saying that I have a soul whereas my desk does not is just a cop-out, not a true answer, in my opinion.
ConsciousAtoms 1 year ago
@Transjenny1969 is there any evidence that "souls" actually exist? (what do you mean by "soul"? mind? in a religious sense? counciousness?...) and don't tell me about the 21 grams... this still under research yet the metaphisic explanation it's been debunked...
DocStrange0123 1 year ago
What IS Life? ---John Lennon once wrote-"Life is what happens to you ,when you're
busy making other plans."
He also wrote"I am the eggman,I am the Walrus,coo coo ca joob."
Life's like that.
hunga224 1 year ago
We all come from material that originated in the stars which originated at the big bang. We are all part of the same energy. Connected since the beginning. We will remain connected for as long as there is a universe.Nothing truly ever goes away. We just change form but are still part of the same universe. we just had the opportunity to get a glance at ourselves and think about what we are.
jab0805 1 year ago
Simple yet complex.Life is beautiful.
gaglamesh731 1 year ago
ok, this is off topic (kinda) of this video, but if you haven't seen it, i recommend you do. its called the fourth kind, and its about aliens, with real video recordings of events that the people in the movie reenact while in another slide the video is there. anyway it can give you many thoughts about many different things. right now all i know is that its on HBO on demand. if you have that, great, if you dont, find it at a movie store.
catlover19921 1 year ago
We're all just elaborate biological meat robots for the brain.
And I like it that way =)
AstraVex 1 year ago
I posted a video response, but not really as a response so much as a video that's relevant to the same topic in a way. Hope that's okay =P
AIReject 1 year ago
Yeah but isn't life responsible for the Force? And we know the Force is real because the Jedi and Sith use it. And we know they are real because they are in a few movies, books games and tv shows . . . checkmate ajedis!
Swidhelm 1 year ago
well, i'd say there is no mutually beneficial grouping of atoms and molecules, if take it your way. since there is no real benefit for energy to behave like that. it only happend, that there would be the first microbes. Life only prevailed in it's known from because of evolution. Suicidal combinations (that most likely existed in the beginning) would most likely have no offspring. So only the lifeforms that clinged to life most would have offspring whit that inherited trait.
bustkill 1 year ago
I understand, you're trying to oppose those who let their imaginations take them too far and I agree with your point there. I do think, however, that the brain, especially the human brain is a very special thing, worth a while, worth a second look. I'm not talking about supernatural, I'm only sayin; the human brain is special in it's own meaty right : )
flyingshitter 1 year ago
NOOOOOOOO ,, I want to be so very special. And If I’m a looser, and you take God away,,? What do I have left?
itsasin1969 1 year ago
LMAO @ 0:24 : D
flyingshitter 1 year ago
@KR2251 Depends who you ask and what they mean by "special".
BionicDance 1 year ago