Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
(pardon the theist expression) AMEN TO THAT! For years ive been taught that respecting other peoples religions is the best thing to do, but since I dont have one, i get ridiculed about it by the ones who do. well in that circumstance im not going to "respect" religion anymore if no one can respect my disavowment of one. look down on me because i dont believe in ur fairy tales? respect for YOUR religion goes out the fucking door. FUCK RELIGION
@motorheadbanger90 Right on. I left Christianity a few years ago, in no small part due to the influence of Hitch, and I can't tell you how consistently the attitude I've gotten from Christians has either implicitly or explicitly communicated that there's something defective with me. What??? You're the one who believes in a homoerotic man fairy in the sky who showers his followers with Holy Ghost gift baskets.
Alright, I don't know what that means, but you get the point.
Hitchens didn't hate the human race nor did he preach it !! He hated religion and rightfully so. Religious doctrines conceived and proposed by man is despicable and should always be treated with contend. Bravo Chris !!
And I realize I made a grammatical error on my reply to you. Thats a gift that you probably wont recognize anyways, so Im not all that concerned. You incomprehensible stutterfuck moron.
I can honestly say Ive yet to find this whole "atheist intellectual" fad to hold any water. Take this great example bujumbura101. Sounds more likes he's preaching italkwithadickinmymouth101.
I wonder how many harpie demons are tearing this guy a new one in hell right now? J/K I have no idea if theres a hell, or if he would be raped there. But it'd be pretty funny if that was the case. Anyone who preaches "hatred and ridicule" torwards anything arent worth being pissed on if they were on fire. Hatred and ridicule are exactly what is wrong with the human race, so if this tool thought he was so advanced before his death, Im sure he's learning otherwise now, the base inbred tool.
@bujumbura101 Apparently the internet is where your caps lock key comes to die. Just a fraction of an inch to your left there dip shit, thats how far you'd have to reach to sound 20% less of a mouth breating brain dead fucktard. Now that thats been dispensed with, even minus the caps who your whole post makes entirely 0 sense. There are going to be many harpies tearing me a new one where I sit? Oh thats very exciting. I hope you didnt kill your last 3 remaining brains cells on that one.
Even when I was 6, I realized god was pretty dumb. I mean, if you go punishing ALL snakes...for what ONE snake said, when that snake was telling the truth? What an ass! (and this was before I knew the word ass)
@083356697 And finally- we don't need substantial evidence against god. This is because the burden of proof is on the people making the positive claim. We don't need 'evidence' to disbelieve in God, the same way that we don't need evidence to disbelieve in Unicorns, or Trolls, or Wizards, or Faeries, or Cthulu. It's a matter of probability, and as long as there is no evidence FOR God, which there isn't, then it remains the intellectual standpoint to regard it as falsehood until evidence arises.
@JayFraser0987 Well stated. Clear, consice, easy to understand but fgor some reason believers dont get it. !!! Their strategy is to redirect the burden of proof. They cannot seem to grasp that non believers are not claiming there is no god...but rather that the claims of good make no sense or have any evidence
@083356694 The Bible isn't consistent with reality in any way that isn't either absurdly obvious or purely speculative. It claims that the Earth is flat, that you can stamp on the stars, that the stars are laid out like a tent, that the Earth is surrounded by a crystal firmament and that the entire of the sky is filled with tonnes and tonnes of water, above the atmosphere. If you feel that this is consistent with reality, please find yourself a new science textbook from which to read.
@082256694 If you don't know where the 'infinite density' comes from, look up Quantum Foam. It'll do you good. Second of all, the Dead Scrolls are a well preserved piece of literature, but so too are preserved cuneiform tablets regarding the sales of land in the Babylonian civilisation. Is that proof that people who sold land are deities? No, it's not, and the state of preservation of a piece of writing is not proof of that writings truth. Futhermore, the Bible is not consistent with reality
if you admit that your current idea of how the world began is flawed and you have no substantial evidence against god, how can you be so sure no god exists?
Ancient messed up books? I believe the dead scrolls are a perfect example of how God preserves his word, I would suggest you take a look at them. Now let me start of by saying I do not believe the bible because the bible tells me I should, that's illogical, I believe the bible to be the absolute truth because it is consistent with reality. Now science clearly shows our universe had a beginning I think we both agree on that, so if our universe had a beginning and is deteriorating slowly as we se
Where did the infinite density come from that started the big bang? And the likely hood that we evolved so perfectly? believing that just happened requires much faith.
@082256694 First of all we do not believe this as the absolute answer. In reality we do not know for sure but the explanation makes sense considering all the studies and data collected and using logic an math etc etc etc.. Theist read an acient messd up holy books aclaim the storiy of creation which is just nonsense.
The answer science gives for both those questions is in reality "we don't know for certain but we think we do.". Believers claim with certainty that a "god" created it !!!! Science does not work on faith. Read some other books other than the fictional bible.
46 seconds is not that impressive. He could do it in 2 or 3 words on occasion. It is said he did not even make much preparation for his debates other than some research on his opponent. This is because he was very knowledgeable about the mainstream religions. He knew more than most priests, rabbis and imams.
"Oh my god""!!!! (Pun inteneded). That arrow went straight thru the heart. I'm bleeding and lying here near death. I extend my dearest and sincere wishes for you to have a great day and you stab me in the heart. Oh the humanity. The pain....its unbearable. I actually thiught you were human but I guess you're a believer in god. Now I understand. Lolllll.
"Oh my god""!!!! (Pun inteneded). That arrow went straight thru the heart. I'm bleeding and lying here near death"
Oh my everything for nothing!!!! (No pun intended). That wasn't an arrow Short Gusts, but it was an veiled suggestion for you to use an oral antiseptic as were dropping like flies for being subjected to it. 'Lol!
"I actually thiught you were human but I guess you're a believer in god.
Now I understand. Lolllll"
Well there's your problem rearing it's not so calmly head again.
It begins when you "actually think", but then you settle for "guessing" without testing your hypothesis and believe that you've come to "understanding" of what it is that you're "guessing"
This method is a sure fire way to fail at science and logic, but it's explainable since you're an atheist. 'Lol!
And just a small suggestion....you may want to rethink attempting to impress people with long winded intllectual wanna-be approach. You'll make more friends. Have a great day. I mean that sincerely. :)
"suggestion you may want to rethink attempting to impress people with long winded intllectual wanna-be approach.You'll make more friends.Have a great day.I mean that sincerely. :)"
Well short *gust, since i've no interest in making "more friends", and because you've not *drafted a thing with a mere semblance of an "intellectual" *air, and since I'm already *breezing along having a "great day", your "sincere suggestion" is but a noxious *blast of bad *breath. :( 'Lol!
Aw don't worry I would never hold you accountable for my thinking or actions. That would be un-christian like. Lol. As far as changing well....its hard to be humble but its difficult to beat perfection. No help requested or required. Enjoy your chocolate covered crickets. :)
I hereby disavow all responsibility-liability for whatever causes your uncontrolled guffawing in maniacal hysteria, to then proceed in making statements with false attributive connotations that only you seem to know what they even are or mean.
This is the way I originally found you, and there's been no discernible change or improvement of your condition, until this very moment as I speak and as you blather.
Ha ha ha. There is an afterlife. Good ole hitch is here in spirit provoking people like lizard person. His legacy lives on even though he is decomposing.
"Good ole hitch is here in *spirit provoking people like lizard person"
*Spirit: The non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul
Such a part regarded as a person’s true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation: Oxford Dictionaries
The "legacy" of religiosity, theism, spirituality, is alive and well, despite the AtheiHitch's contradiction in futile dogmatic denial of innate human nature: Lizard Dictionary
*N-C T O B M B R I P Translation: I wish for the AtheiHitch to be resting in peace, but I believe we just cease to exist upon death as did the AtheiHitch
To remain consistent to my belief I should have said; “May he never know that he, anyone, or anything had ever existed to begin with, and be feeding worms well.‘Lol!
Nevertheless, for all I really know, he may be RIP (Roasting In Perdition)
*Non-Contradiction To Own Belief May Be Roasting In Perdition Translation
"He was able to put religon and its nonsense into perspective for everyone to see"--anthill
Ut oh, I feel another *N-D Translation coming on.
*N-D Translation: The AtheiHitch could not reconcile being in logical contradiction to his own ideology if God/s does not exist, thus atheism true.
What possible rational justification is there to be adverse to that (everything) which would be self-propagated natural processes in effective manifestation if atheism were true?
*N-D S M Translation: There’s an never ending supply of arrogant bombastic buffoons in the world and always will be.
There’s also plenteous gullible fools, desperate to hear just what they want toward self-affirmation.
Forget about “filling the AtheiHitch’s shoes“ The question is; “Who'll be the next “brilliant” con man to fill their bank accounts with the money of suckers who readily buy into such crap?
@LizardLeaps You don't need a God to find meaning in your life. Also, let me just say your argument is completely retarded. The theory that life can not exist with out meaning, afterlife, or god is moronic.
"You don't need a God to find meaning in your life. Also, let me just say your argument is completely retarded. The theory that life can not exist with out meaning, afterlife, or god is moronic"
Well that's all just splendid!, but since you've blathered nothing but your biased opinionated drivel with not one example of anything to demonstrate what it is that you're even babbling about, it would appear that the "retarded moronic" disposition is all about you.
"Must be sad and boring to live in this babble filled world in shich christians believe.I am so content to have been able to shake of this cult at a young age"
If you're so "content" then why are you here trying to find an iota of meaning in your life, for which you would have none if your atheism is true?
Your failure for inability to provide a rational reason to believe your life, anyone's, or anything, would have any objective meaning if atheism were true and God/s doesn't exist proves it.
Must be sad and boring to live in this babble filled world in shich christians believe. I am so content to have been able to shake of this cult at a young age. It is much more difficult to erase these evils teaching at older ages.
@fishqueen1972. Have you not realized you are trying to debate with a deluded individual? He or she is just yanking your shorts. Lol. I've been observing the dialog for about a week and its same old same old. Will not or cannot support the position and maintains support not required for faith. Lol. It is if you want to convince people.
Probably get about 12 sentences of logeristicall fellatiable spritensish jibberash trashmatter. This will put you in your place for sure. Lollll. Peace be with you. Ha ha
@fishqueen1972. Oh now you did it fishqueen. You irritated gecko-jump. Ha ha ha. Now your punishment is to endure page upon page of jibberish trying to showboat his or her mastering of a lexicon. That's worse than the lake of fire. Lolllllllllllll.
Just as we thought...more long winded phsyco-babble from salamander-hop a la billy lame(not a doctor craig. Oh well its been fun but gotta go now. Tell you what. If you ever come up with some intelligent support for religion let me know. Enjoy your insect fetish. Lolllllll.
"Just as we thought...more long winded phsyco-babble from salamander-hop a la billy lame(not a doctor craig"
*N-D B O M A O Translation: I anthill, use a nosism to refer to myself, in lame attempts to make it appear as if I am sharing in the collective thoughts of others.
I proclaim ad nausem that Dr.Craig is not a doctor, but as any Proctologist would notice, I'm just blowing it out of my anal orifice. 'Lol
*Non-Delusional Blowing Out My Anal Orifice Translation
"Tell you what.If you ever come up with some intelligent support for religion let me know"
If you ever solve your persistent atheist contradiction conundrum, to reconcile being adverse to anything that would necessarily be the result of non-transcendent purposed coincidental happenstance, by self-propagated perpetually indemonstrable wishful naturalistic processes,( if atheism were true and God/s does not exist), than you would have become rational and a theist. 'Lol!
I wonder if you would point out where and when I claimed the big bang theory and evolution were accurate and true? Again you're wrong. Lol. I have made one statement which could be described as belief. "Religion is insanity". This claim is based on observation and opinion.
"I wonder if you would point out where and when I claimed the big bang theory and evolution were accurate and true?'
I wouldn't even bother because your loaded question is also your straw man of my position, as neither the the "big bang theory" or the theory of evolution were ever in issue.
It's not even in contention of the universe having had a finite beginning in space-time and the origin of viable life is impertinent to diversity of life theory, thus F_ _L!
"Again you're wrong. Lol. I have made one statement which could be described as belief"
Wongio as usual and ever.
Every time you make an claim which is many, in absolute, positive, factual terms without evidence, proof or the ability to support such claims, not only are you merely blathering your biased opinionated beliefs, but you assume the burden of proof for which you have miserably failed in every instance to provide.
(Cont'd.... ...that you must have believed the "big bang theory" and "evolution" were ever in issue, when they were not, is demonstrative of (if not a mistake) an inferential claim and a false belief in itself.
Again, you are proven in logical contradiction and inconsistent to your own belief.
...no rational justification to be adverse to anything, (including religion/s) which would necessarily be everything as natural phenomena displayed in effective manifestation to be "insanity", if atheism were true and God/s does not exist.
Your biased opinion of what you asses in "observation" to be "insane", wrong "atrocious, good, bad, etc. is just as valid as any others subjective opinion, if everything is the result of non-transcendent purposed, coincidental happenstance by self-propagated natural processes and phenomena displayed in effective manifestation.
Atheism is 'insanity", when adverse to religiosity, theism, etc., intrinsic to human nature, just as it would be insane to be adverse to any other phenomena in effective manifestation.
Atheism/atheists can provide no rational justification to be in contention/condescension to that which would necessarily be human natural phenomena in effective manifestation, if atheism were true, God/s does not exist, thus all religions false.
Nope !!!! Lol. Wrong again. I also "don't" believe in easter bunnies or unicorns. Angels and demons neither. I "don't" believe in magic or witchcraft. The burden is yours. Lol.
"Nope !!!! Lol. Wrong again. I also..."believe everything created itself for nothing.
Wrongio as ever Cheeky Obstinatio
You've made a blithering all inclusive absolute positive assertion that "religion is insanity", Therefore, the burden is all yours to prove that you''re not insane for believing that everything created itself for nothing, and that you're not insane for believing that natural phenomena is "insanity" No can do? Then Insane Crickets to you >^+&0=%@..#
Oh dear!!! Where do I begin??? I know.....I never claimed that god does not exist. Lol. I merely reject yours and others claims that it exists. Maybe if you type another twelve paragraphs or more of babble and yada yada I too could accept your fantasy story. Who knows. Ha ha.
"Oh dear!!! Where do I begin???... I will dodge with more blather.
You have commenced firing with blanks again and your point is moot.
It doesn't matter if you ever claimed God/s doesn't exist or didn't.
The very fact that atheism is the belief that no God/s exist proves that you have no rational justification ("insanity") to be adverse to that (everything) which would necessarily be simply self-propagated natural processes and phenomena in effective manifestation. :)
"Oh yes I forgot...Thank you!! I thought we made a nice couple. :)"
No need to thank me Magoo.
Afterall, you're the one who chose to pair up with another momentous logistically fallacious, scientifically challenged, ignoramus of epic proportioned buffoon such as you.
Perhaps you could have boobbottoms carry out the civil union in
Folly matrimony.
After he pronounces you buffoon and buffoon he could end the proceeding by saying; "you may now kiss my boobs. 'Lol!
LoLlll. Colorful as always. Irritating...of course !! Relevant...not even close. Effective...not in the least. Able to argue your case?? Well you don't even seem to try. This is because there is no argument. Religion is insane. Lollll.
"Well you don't even seem to try. This is because there is no argument. Religion is insane"
Au contraire dearest Magoo, as the insanity and failure to "argue your case" is all about you.
Observe: If God exists, then it would be God's sovereign prerogative to do, allow done, or not do, with that which are God's own possessions/property, (everything) for God's transcendent purpose/s and by whatever means and methods God so chooses.
...then everything would be the result of self-propagated naturalistic process and natural phenomena in effective manifestation including the proclivity of religiosity, theism etc. intrinsic to human nature.
Atheist argument: None. If the cosmos and life was the result of self-propagated naturalistic processes then there is no rational justification to be adverse to any naturalistic processes in effective manifestation.
...then there's no rational justification to be adverse to anything God does, has done, or doesn't do, despite the mere bleating creatures inability or unwillingness to understand, or just not liking it.
So you have no argument either way.
And you're in irrational, logical contradiction to your own belief if atheism were true and God/s doesn't exist, because you've called what would just be natural phenomena in effective manifestation "insanity", thus Fail!
"See what I mean!!! Lots a nonsensical chatter and..."I'm still blathering"
Say Mr.Magoo, I'm not usually one to tell a buffoon his business, but in your case I'll make an exception.
If you're looking to mutuality validate your FAITH in belief of everything, by nothing you will ever know, for nothing that you just don't know, then you've chosen the right mate.
Although madhico is a flightless kiwi, you're birds of a feather in logically fallacious reasoning and make a very lovely pair.'Lol!
@mehico33. See what I mean!!! Lots a nonsensical chatter and still unable to support his belief (or her) lolll. It used to be cute now its just boring.
He just had like minded buffoons fooled into thinking he was.
"...a child can and *ALL children* actually do see through them", errr What?!?!
Well that's an easily proven false generalization.
Try telling a child; "everything exploded itself into existence by self-propagated naturalistic processes as happenstance, for no purpose whatsoever and watch as Finster streaks off in panicked screams of; "daddy and mommy have gone full blown bonkers!!!! 'Lol!
Well then please allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like bulls eye bottom.
You strike me as "just a ridiculous person" who ridiculously claims that I "strike you as just a ridiculousness person", but you're the one who prances about with your boob bottom, proudly proclaiming to the whole world that mosquitoes got the *best* of you. 'Lol!
@LizardLeaps Well. As a child I thought the Noah's Ark story was ridiculous. I knew that story didn't mesh with what we see in reality. I also remember a children's Bible book which was illustrated with pictures. It showed Abraham standing over Isaak with a knife, arm up, knife in hand, ready to stab. That didn't sit well with me as a child and it still doesn't.That story is evil.I also couldn't figure out how adults could KNOW a God exists or that people weren't lying in the Bible
"Well. As a child I thought the Noah's Ark story was ridiculous..."
Well that's just splendid! but your point is moot.
That's because I asserted that the AtheiHitch provably/fallacious claimed "ALL children actually do see through them" which is not true by any stretch.
Moreover, how do you "KNOW" as fact that the in earnest, authoritative, written in classic historical narrative style attestations of God's interactions and revelations in the bible are "lies"?
@LizardLeaps 1) Father, son, & holy spirit doesn't equal one god. That goes against the principles of mathematics. God is father and son. That goes against the law of self identity.There are also things in the Bible that violate the law of non-contradiction. So I can exclude those claims or concepts of Christianity b/c they violate axioms which is impossible. People have created thousands of cults over time based on lies or misapprehensions. You might as well believe in Peter Pan.
"1) Father, son, & holy spirit doesn't equal one god. That goes against the principles of mathematics..."
There is no rational reason or justification to attempt to apply the principles of "mathematics" or fallible, feeble, flawed, limited logic when hypothesizing of a God to have been responsible for the creation of all things in existence.
It is utterly irrational via flawed logic to believe that you could "exclude"...
...that which would not be bound by, nor under subjection to that which would be his own creation and instillation.
You have no objective evidence which could prove that the attestations of God in Jesus Christ are "lies" (as you claim) to the preclusion of God, but rather are foolishly thinking you've done so by arguing from ignorance in logically fallacious reasoning and argumentation and by the very logic you speciously claim disproves God. 'Lol!
The rest of your biased opinionated blather, to your non-sequitur-false analogy conclusion is further invalid/disqualified on it's logically fallacious face, as "Peter Pan" was never meant to be taken as anything other than fiction, thus Fail!
Face it Ichthyofemroyal, you dont know if you will not stand and give an account for your life on your attested immanent day of Judgment to eternal conscious destination, despite your fondest wishes or alleged logic.
@LizardLeaps So basically your beliefs are unfalsifiable. Correct? Meaning, we will never know if they are true or not because you make it impossible to dispute. In your world anything goes. You can believe whatever you want and you don't have to provide evidence. That was my reason for bringing up Peter Pan. lol..I will assume you are Christian, it would be the Christians who believe they get a free pass from punishment. Jesus paid the price of sins. How convenient.
@Fishqueen1972 Dont forget the talking snake. Its at the very beginning of the book. And the whole of christianity and judais is based on this book. And they accuse us of coming to conclusions without using logic and common sense. I want to say its laughable but really it is very very sad
Science has nothing to say one way or the other of that which is defined/purported to be in essence of the Supernatural, therefore belief by faith in theism, etc. is irrelevant to the philosophy of science in relation to the scientific method toward empirical testability in definitive explanations of natural phenomena.
..never know if your belief by FAITH of the origination of the cosmos and life to have arisen on the earth can credit their origination/s to naturalistic mechanistic processes, even if such conjectural process did exist and were responsible for said origination/s.
One cannot physically regress in space-time to implement scientific testability of that which was actually responsible for said origination/s,...
...and there are no possible viable hypothesis with working models for that which is not observably, sensually, detected (empirically) in pertinence to said origination/s.
Neither universes, nor viable life from non-living matter have ever been observed coming into existence, and mathematical theorems cannot yield explanations as derived from scientific testability toward empirical knowledge in definitive explanations.
...of any viable hypothesis availing toward testability, neither the origination of universe or viable life's having originated from the pre-biotic earth, "Peterpanspermia or other is "falsifiable", thus your FAITH is rendered a pseudo-science fiction fantasy.
...was/is logically fallacious, unsound, invalid, thus unjustified reasoning for an non- sequitur via false analogy, since Peter Pan was written in fictional narrative and the in earnest authoritative written in classical historical narrative of God in Jesus Christ, which has justifiable grounds for belief by faith, were not.
'it would be the Christians who believe they get a free pass from punishment. Jesus paid the price of sins. How convenient"
False for compounded logical fallacies of begging proposition and oversimplification fallacies.
Conversely, I can turn this around on you and not commit the fallacies.
Observe: It would be atheists who believe that there's no such thing as God/s or sinfulness, so they believe they get a free pass from punishment. How convenient. 'Lol!
@LizardLeaps You love to make asserations. Again, you have rendered your belief system unfalsifiable. You can belief whatever you want with the banner of faith. "Conversely, I can turn this around on you and not commit the fallacies." I already did that to you. Any faith system which uses a threat to be coercisive should be put on notice as highly suspect. The atheist believe humans make eachother accountable and believe there are natural punishments for our actions. cont....
@Fishqueen1972 cont....And we don't allow someone else to pay for our crimes and then claim that is good. There is nothing virtuous about allowing someone else to pay for your crimes. And we don't think that cruel and unusual punishment is good or just. I am finished here. You can believe what you want.
It would appear that you *love to make asserations* of me allegedly *loving to make asserations*
Having said that, if I knew what *asserations* even are, then I might know what possible relevance that your allegation of my *loving to make asserations* has to do with anything in issue, and what these alleged *asserations* which you assert that I *love to make*, even were. 'Lol!
"Again, you have rendered your belief system unfalsifiable"
Again, anything defined or purported in essence of the Supernatural is irrelevant to the scientific method and philosophy thereof, so I have "rendered" nothing anything, for that which something is, it simply is.
"Like I said, "unfalsifiable". "Supernatural" is basically another way of saying, "I don't know"
Like I say, quote mining yourself, concocting a straw man by inference, false factually redefining what words and terms mean will not produce empirical knowledge in definitive explanations of how the cosmos and viable life originated on the earth.
However these do reveal your obstinacy, frustration for stymied befuddlement and logically bankrupt status.
One cannot physically regress in space time to implement the scientific method to attain empirical knowledge in definitive explanations of said origination.
Consequently, your untestable in hypothesis, *unfalsifiable* fondest pseudo-science fiction fantasy FAITH of the cosmos and life to have self-propagated...
...in random, non-transcendent purposed coincidental happenstance, by perpetually indemonstrable wishful naturalistic processes will never be realized, and even if such said processes were responsible.
You could never even know if your atheism is true and wishful FAITH of everything to have propagated itself for nothing.
If God/s does not exist, then all knowledge ever acquired, accomplishments experiences, everyone and everything would be as if you, no one, and nothing, had ever existed in the first place, if all conscious existence ceases upon death.
Conversely, your very best prospect is to only know if you are dead wrong and God/s does exist.
@LizardLeaps Ok then, describe "supernatural or GOD" without referring to what it is NOT. Spaceless, timeless, Immaterial are the usual descriptions of GOd or the supernatural. You may include "consciousness" when referring to God. If that is the case, then describe how consciousness works as it relates to God being spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. If you can't, then you have basically admitted, "I don't know". Why should anyone take you seriously?
You're logic is flawed-fallacious from the word go.
There's no imperative or burden to prove that which could only be deemed in the realms of the immaterial and based on faith by the very definition of faith, not contingent on objective evidence or proof.
But it get's worse.
Your logic fails for your premise to false conclusion in argument from ignorance that the inability to know something means that something shouldn't be taken seriously (dismissed)
Moreover, if you wish to remain consistent to your own failed logic and wishful FAITH, then define what the alleged naturalistic mechanistic process were/are to have been responsible for the origination of the cosmos and viable life having arisen on the earth? no can do then, "seriously" Crickets.................... to you.
But it gets way worse, so hang onto your bait bag Fishqueen. 'Lol!
Your FAITH in the cosmos and viable life to have self-propagated is perpetually non-empirically testable in hypothesis and it is undetectable conjectural phenomena never observed, can have no working models, thus it's unfalsifiable", so it's pseudo-science fiction FAITH and shouldn't be taken "seriously"
...when you parrot in logically fallacious canned atheistic propaganda rhetoric, via specious argumentation in failed attempts to shift the burden of proof fish?
@LizardLeaps Anyone can make false statements and claim they won an argument. (you)---Anything that is defined as spaceless and immaterial does not exist--thus with your definition of god, he does not exist. When the sperm meets with the egg, is which sperm a random event?? Or is it predestined? Did SOMETHING direct a specific sperm to get their first? I dont' know what reality you live in, but I don't think we are part of some program or directed design. That's absurd.
Wrongio Delusius Obstinato Denialotto. (You) can deny that your reasoning and argument/s has been proven invalid/disqualified for employment of the logically fallacy of argument from ignorance, but it's "absurd" to think that unsound reasoning will somehow transform itself into sound reasoning and argumentation, as if by some magical process of reverse osmosis.
This atheism thingy has rendered (you) logically bankrupt and far too self-decieved to realize it.
"Anything that is defined as spaceless and immaterial does not exist..."because I parrot this ad nauseam atheistic blather and say so.
Nice parroting in logically flawed, atheistic propaganda rhetoric, as if that which you've taken the liberty to hypothesize of (God/s as Creator of all things existent) would necessitate conformity, and be under subjection to his creation and your mere bleating creature, feeble, fallible, limited logic or be precluded.
@Fishqueen1972 Are you ready for a page and a half of logistirolly falbatious spunktrum mushratious golbarge ?????? It will come...I have forseen it and prhophetised it (thats kind of like "biggied it"). It will come to pass. I feel like a god now. I will have my terrified slaves write some books and then put them all together and call it the' bribal" Ye shall roast in brook of sparks with the chatting serpent ahter you swallow some grapes. Sound familiar?
@allanhill1 Read again "the red herring attemp to divert from the actual issue" This is his or her entire strategy since the beginning.. Go back and follow all the comments and you will notice never once any meager attempt to explain why the belief ing god. Always alluding that nonbelief is what requires proof. Obvious lack of intellect. lollll Usually by-product of bible reading
"Go back and follow all the comments and you will notice..."my litany of logical fallacies and irrelevancy diversions
Nonsense Magoo. I disavow all liability/responsibility for your failed and sub-standard cognitive abilities.
It's axiomatic to believe in God/s, religiosity, spiritualism etc.,as intrinsic to human nature and a freak of human nature to believe that everything created itself, by itself, for absolutely nothing whatsoever. It's irrational not to believe.
@Fishqueen1972 Not unike an kid in the backseat continually repeating "Are we there yet?" for miles on end ha ha ha . First reaction is to smack it in the face but then upon realising youre dealing with an infantile brain you refrain and just let them ramble on. Usually the stop after awhile.
"Not unike an kid in the backseat..."I blather, bleat, bla, bla, burp..."Usually the stop after awhile"
Your theory of incessant rambling nonsensical blather cessation has been falsified by yourself.
Obseve: You've been doing this for the entire ride, and despite your having been verbally smacked in the face innumerable times, you just continue to burp up more pablum and ramble on as the oblivious Finster that you've proved to be.
... I do sympathize, but not emphasize with you, since I don't know what it's like to be in direct contradiction to my own beliefs as your persistent atheistic conundrum has rendered you.
Care to finally stop averting, deflecting, and blathering in utter irrelevancies as demonstrative of your frustration for perpetually stymied befuddlement and provide rational justification for being adverse to religiosity etc. if atheism true and... Go!? Crickets............
@Fishqueen1972 There is paragragh two. Not surprized if there is at least two more !!!! Its a shame these words donot actually make sense or say anything of substance lol
@Fishqueen1972 Again it is clear as day. No understanding of the difference between believing in a concept without evidence or logic. and theories and laws which are the result of study and analyisis. These people just conotinure to spew out that atheism is a belief system which of course is not. lol Lack of belief people. Jusat ry to grasp this concept Lack of belief in god as there is no rational logistic reason to buy into this belief.
@Fishqueen1972 Would seem so. Unable to grasp a simple concept as the burden to support a claim and that non believers do not claim any existence of supreme beings lol.. Well maybe santa claus....I got a pic of me on his lap. At least it evidence. Not irrefutable nut it is evidence which requires analysis. Something religious people are unable to understand...analysis and study. Have a great day
"Unable to grasp a simple concept..." as just more blithering prattle.
I realize that you're unwilling to recognize ("grasp") your atheistic propagandize (brainwashed) bias in fallacious positive "claim" ("concept"), used ad nauseam as a deceitful ploy, in pitifully failed attempts to validate your denial and shift the burden of proof.
Regardless of this, the belief in God/s by faith...
...that I'm going to need to get a larger abacus to tabulate them all. 'Lol!
You've proven to be an very deceived-self-deceived-deceitful, obstinate, trollish, bratty, poor loser, which would be readily evident to those whom unlike you, are true critical free thinkers and rationally sound of mind.
Please allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like and was going to anyhow.
You as one of my test subjects, has supplied a bounty of very useful data for my research study, with objectives to categorically demonstrate the persistent logically fallacious reasoning-argumentation and deceptive devices utilized, in relation to an denial complex as pervasive and integral to the standard atheistic mode of mindset.
"Again it is clear as day... blater bla bla burp... "and theories and laws which are the result of study and analyisis"
Well there's another of your problems rearing it's not so calmly head once again in logically fallacious reasoning, all the more proving your momentous logically bankrupt status.
You beyond laughably think that it's "clear as day" to *affirm the consequent* in logically fallacious reasoning, by interjecting 'theories, laws and analysis"...
...as being the "result" of your pseudo-science fiction, wishful fantasy FAITH in perpetually indemonstrable naturalistic mechanistic processes, whilst being persistently as clueless as a cabbage (no offense to cabbages) to ever know if any such wishful naturalistic processes even exist in the first place. 'Lol!
Say Bill Deny, pseudoscience guy, this thinking-reasoning business doesn't appear to be your forte.
Why not take up another hobby such as wind chasing or grass grow watching, as you couldn't possibly do any worse at these than you've done at this. 'Lol!
Consequently, for your beyond pitiful efforts, irrational, illogical, fool Fail! is all you've earned for this latest installment of critically injured enslaved thinkers blather... as opposed to and for the free and critical thinker that you've decieved yourself into believing/thinking you are.
"When the sperm meets with the egg, is which sperm a random event?..." Or a red herring fallacy"
So Sorry, Diversio Illogicalmucho, but this red herring attempt to divert from the actual issue (being your perpetual stymied befuddlement) of how everything originated as persistently unfalsifiable, thus mere pseudo-science fiction fantasy wishful FAITH that everything propagated itself for nothing has earned you another Illogical decietful foolish fantasy FAITH Fail!
"I dont' know what reality you live in,but I don't think we are part of some program or directed design.That's absurd"
Then allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like Absurdicus Ignoraminus.
Even in this day and age, as I speak and as you blather, the CIA FactBook of World Demographics has atheism tabulated as an anomalous, tenuous, est. 2.03% worldwide, and this when atheism has had it's strongest insurgence in all of recorded history.
Your alleged "reality" of "what you think" proves "absurdity" is in actuality, your biased opinionated presuposition of thinking in anomalous freak of human nature mode, for thinking/believing that everything created itself, by itself, and for nothing whatsoever.
Therefore, without an iota of objective evidence or proof to support your belief, please allow me to be the first to welcome you to the wonderful world of FAITH!, as absurd as yours is.
"Any faith system which uses a threat to be coercisive should be put on notice as highly suspect"
Then notice this: If atheism were true, God/s doesn't exist, thus all religion/s false, then any "faith system" of any kind, as everything existent, would ultimately be the result of non-purposed coincidental happenstance, by self-propagated naturalistic mechanistic processes and phenomena displaying itself in effective manifestation.
What possible rational justification is there to be "highly suspect" of any natural phenomena in effective manifestation and to then to put it on notice? Crickets................................
P.S. Because I, Fishqueen said so will not be accepted as a valid answer, and will be disqualified as it has already been. 'Lol!
it was the truth as explained to a series of men 2000 years ago- Genesis is the 'a stork brings them' version of the creation of the universe. 2,000 years from now , the Big Bang theory is going to look even more stupid than it does now. Its just another 'creation myth',like Genesis, explained by scientists who dont even understand quantum physics . I think you can teach Genesis in schools as an example of a scientific paradigm - ie you can falsify it - you then have to makeanewmodel..
did he miss the 'through a glass darkly ' bit in the bible? ie if you are trying to explain 'sex' to a child, you have to lie, because they dont have enough knowledge to understand the truth. And 2,000 years ago, most people couldnt even read adn write, let alone know what DNA was, so they had to be told 'do not have sex with your siblings' simply to help them avoid causing a baby to have to walk around the world in a body that didnt work properly , with all the disappointmentsit brings them.
You have fallaciously asserted this as if fact, when it's in fact, merely your proven hypocritical double standard biased opinion of FAITH based “belief“
So sorry Magoo, but hypocritical, delusional denial, obstinate double standard, "compulsion" in expressed "belief" by FAITH, thus F_ _ L! F_ _L!
P.S. Ive left you 2 to fill in the blanks, because OO and AI need be inserted to fully cover this latest momentous blunder of yours. 'Lol!
I will tell you that it is absolutely nothing like you said in your profile page: "I once got two mosquito bites on my ass, one in the center of each cheek, and so my ass looked like boobs"-- monkeymagoo aka Boobbottoms
One can only wonder why you were prancing about, offering your bare bum to every bugger that wished a go at it. 'Lol!
"Hes exercising his pretentious vocabulary, he's not really saying anything"
*N-D S L R B H B B Translation: I failed miserably trying to debate lizard. I'm a sore loser and just pretend to not understand him. He handed me my sit down apparatus in a hand basket, so I haven't been able to sit for days.
May I borrow one of your boob like bottoms?, as a half ass is better than none at all. 'Lol!
*Non-Delusional Sore Loser Request to Borrow Half Boob Bottom Translation
...you're going to need to abolish the unalienable rights of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and the right of free exercise of religion, but your first option is far more likely to achieve for you, your desired result. ‘Lol!
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tigersforchrist 22 hours ago
His brain was too small.
jimster46 1 day ago
@jimster46 You are so amazing! I wish I possessed your insights into the world.
DonnyLee82 22 minutes ago
(pardon the theist expression) AMEN TO THAT! For years ive been taught that respecting other peoples religions is the best thing to do, but since I dont have one, i get ridiculed about it by the ones who do. well in that circumstance im not going to "respect" religion anymore if no one can respect my disavowment of one. look down on me because i dont believe in ur fairy tales? respect for YOUR religion goes out the fucking door. FUCK RELIGION
motorheadbanger90 4 days ago
@motorheadbanger90 Right on. I left Christianity a few years ago, in no small part due to the influence of Hitch, and I can't tell you how consistently the attitude I've gotten from Christians has either implicitly or explicitly communicated that there's something defective with me. What??? You're the one who believes in a homoerotic man fairy in the sky who showers his followers with Holy Ghost gift baskets.
Alright, I don't know what that means, but you get the point.
sosaysthelegend 2 days ago
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Hitchens didn't hate the human race nor did he preach it !! He hated religion and rightfully so. Religious doctrines conceived and proposed by man is despicable and should always be treated with contend. Bravo Chris !!
allanhill1 1 week ago
And I realize I made a grammatical error on my reply to you. Thats a gift that you probably wont recognize anyways, so Im not all that concerned. You incomprehensible stutterfuck moron.
ThereWillBeCHUD 2 weeks ago
I can honestly say Ive yet to find this whole "atheist intellectual" fad to hold any water. Take this great example bujumbura101. Sounds more likes he's preaching italkwithadickinmymouth101.
ThereWillBeCHUD 2 weeks ago
I wonder how many harpie demons are tearing this guy a new one in hell right now? J/K I have no idea if theres a hell, or if he would be raped there. But it'd be pretty funny if that was the case. Anyone who preaches "hatred and ridicule" torwards anything arent worth being pissed on if they were on fire. Hatred and ridicule are exactly what is wrong with the human race, so if this tool thought he was so advanced before his death, Im sure he's learning otherwise now, the base inbred tool.
ThereWillBeCHUD 2 weeks ago
@ThereWillBeCHUD NOT AS MANY AS ARE TEARING AT YOURS' RIGHT NOW WHERE U SIT YOU NINCOMPOOP . AND THAT'S WHY WE SEE THE RIGHT NONSENSE OF THIS WHOLE
DEMON GOD SPRITE DEVIL FIARY ZEPHYR SOUL ARCHANGEL SERAPH THING.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE IS TELLING YOU.
SO IF YOU WANT TO PREACH HATE YOU WILL NEED TO FIND ANOTHER VEHICLE.
THE INTERNETS IS WHERE GOD HAS COME TO DIE.
bujumbura101 2 weeks ago
@bujumbura101 Apparently the internet is where your caps lock key comes to die. Just a fraction of an inch to your left there dip shit, thats how far you'd have to reach to sound 20% less of a mouth breating brain dead fucktard. Now that thats been dispensed with, even minus the caps who your whole post makes entirely 0 sense. There are going to be many harpies tearing me a new one where I sit? Oh thats very exciting. I hope you didnt kill your last 3 remaining brains cells on that one.
ThereWillBeCHUD 2 weeks ago
Even when I was 6, I realized god was pretty dumb. I mean, if you go punishing ALL snakes...for what ONE snake said, when that snake was telling the truth? What an ass! (and this was before I knew the word ass)
Enginmaster 2 weeks ago
By "this" I mean the tents and ocean in the sky ect...
082256694 2 weeks ago
So where did quantum foam come from? And where does it say this in the bible?
082256694 2 weeks ago
@083356697 And finally- we don't need substantial evidence against god. This is because the burden of proof is on the people making the positive claim. We don't need 'evidence' to disbelieve in God, the same way that we don't need evidence to disbelieve in Unicorns, or Trolls, or Wizards, or Faeries, or Cthulu. It's a matter of probability, and as long as there is no evidence FOR God, which there isn't, then it remains the intellectual standpoint to regard it as falsehood until evidence arises.
JayFraser0987 2 weeks ago
@JayFraser0987 Well stated. Clear, consice, easy to understand but fgor some reason believers dont get it. !!! Their strategy is to redirect the burden of proof. They cannot seem to grasp that non believers are not claiming there is no god...but rather that the claims of good make no sense or have any evidence
allanhill1 2 weeks ago
@083356694 The Bible isn't consistent with reality in any way that isn't either absurdly obvious or purely speculative. It claims that the Earth is flat, that you can stamp on the stars, that the stars are laid out like a tent, that the Earth is surrounded by a crystal firmament and that the entire of the sky is filled with tonnes and tonnes of water, above the atmosphere. If you feel that this is consistent with reality, please find yourself a new science textbook from which to read.
JayFraser0987 2 weeks ago
@082256694 If you don't know where the 'infinite density' comes from, look up Quantum Foam. It'll do you good. Second of all, the Dead Scrolls are a well preserved piece of literature, but so too are preserved cuneiform tablets regarding the sales of land in the Babylonian civilisation. Is that proof that people who sold land are deities? No, it's not, and the state of preservation of a piece of writing is not proof of that writings truth. Futhermore, the Bible is not consistent with reality
JayFraser0987 2 weeks ago
if you admit that your current idea of how the world began is flawed and you have no substantial evidence against god, how can you be so sure no god exists?
082256694 2 weeks ago
Ancient messed up books? I believe the dead scrolls are a perfect example of how God preserves his word, I would suggest you take a look at them. Now let me start of by saying I do not believe the bible because the bible tells me I should, that's illogical, I believe the bible to be the absolute truth because it is consistent with reality. Now science clearly shows our universe had a beginning I think we both agree on that, so if our universe had a beginning and is deteriorating slowly as we se
082256694 2 weeks ago
Where did the infinite density come from that started the big bang? And the likely hood that we evolved so perfectly? believing that just happened requires much faith.
082256694 2 weeks ago
@082256694 First of all we do not believe this as the absolute answer. In reality we do not know for sure but the explanation makes sense considering all the studies and data collected and using logic an math etc etc etc.. Theist read an acient messd up holy books aclaim the storiy of creation which is just nonsense.
allanhill1 2 weeks ago
@082256694 from a chicken?????
bujumbura101 2 weeks ago
The "big bang theory" does not state something came from nothing you should try studying a subject before repeating false statements !!!!!
allanhill1 3 weeks ago
The answer science gives for both those questions is in reality "we don't know for certain but we think we do.". Believers claim with certainty that a "god" created it !!!! Science does not work on faith. Read some other books other than the fictional bible.
allanhill1 3 weeks ago
@DemoraX
It takes more faith to believe nothing created something. How do you suppose the universe came to be? What caused the big bang?
082256694 3 weeks ago
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Sounds much like another quote from the fictional bible. Lol.
allanhill1 3 weeks ago
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds ofevil against you because of me. ". - Jesus This is persecution
MrJcenter7 3 weeks ago
you can own religion in 3 words :)
Dictionary, Gullible, Faith :)
the definitions of Gullibility and Faith are the same with different wording
DemoraX 4 weeks ago
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46 seconds is not that impressive. He could do it in 2 or 3 words on occasion. It is said he did not even make much preparation for his debates other than some research on his opponent. This is because he was very knowledgeable about the mainstream religions. He knew more than most priests, rabbis and imams.
allanhill1 1 month ago
Hope ya have a great day anyhow !!!:)
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@allanhill1
"Hope ya have a great day anyhow !!!:)"
Thanks!!! I am, so your hopes have come true!!!, but I hope you'll have a great day and a great Judgment day as well!!! :)
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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"Oh my god""!!!! (Pun inteneded). That arrow went straight thru the heart. I'm bleeding and lying here near death. I extend my dearest and sincere wishes for you to have a great day and you stab me in the heart. Oh the humanity. The pain....its unbearable. I actually thiught you were human but I guess you're a believer in god. Now I understand. Lolllll.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Oh my god""!!!! (Pun inteneded). That arrow went straight thru the heart. I'm bleeding and lying here near death"
Oh my everything for nothing!!!! (No pun intended). That wasn't an arrow Short Gusts, but it was an veiled suggestion for you to use an oral antiseptic as were dropping like flies for being subjected to it. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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@allanhill1
"I actually thiught you were human but I guess you're a believer in god.
Now I understand. Lolllll"
Well there's your problem rearing it's not so calmly head again.
It begins when you "actually think", but then you settle for "guessing" without testing your hypothesis and believe that you've come to "understanding" of what it is that you're "guessing"
This method is a sure fire way to fail at science and logic, but it's explainable since you're an atheist. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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And just a small suggestion....you may want to rethink attempting to impress people with long winded intllectual wanna-be approach. You'll make more friends. Have a great day. I mean that sincerely. :)
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"suggestion you may want to rethink attempting to impress people with long winded intllectual wanna-be approach.You'll make more friends.Have a great day.I mean that sincerely. :)"
Well short *gust, since i've no interest in making "more friends", and because you've not *drafted a thing with a mere semblance of an "intellectual" *air, and since I'm already *breezing along having a "great day", your "sincere suggestion" is but a noxious *blast of bad *breath. :( 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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Aw don't worry I would never hold you accountable for my thinking or actions. That would be un-christian like. Lol. As far as changing well....its hard to be humble but its difficult to beat perfection. No help requested or required. Enjoy your chocolate covered crickets. :)
allanhill1 1 month ago
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Lolllll. You make it just too easy.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Lolllll. You make it just too easy"
I hereby disavow all responsibility-liability for whatever causes your uncontrolled guffawing in maniacal hysteria, to then proceed in making statements with false attributive connotations that only you seem to know what they even are or mean.
This is the way I originally found you, and there's been no discernible change or improvement of your condition, until this very moment as I speak and as you blather.
Hope this helps!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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Ha ha ha. There is an afterlife. Good ole hitch is here in spirit provoking people like lizard person. His legacy lives on even though he is decomposing.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Good ole hitch is here in *spirit provoking people like lizard person"
*Spirit: The non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul
Such a part regarded as a person’s true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation: Oxford Dictionaries
The "legacy" of religiosity, theism, spirituality, is alive and well, despite the AtheiHitch's contradiction in futile dogmatic denial of innate human nature: Lizard Dictionary
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
“May he RIP”--anthill
*N-C T O B M B R I P Translation: I wish for the AtheiHitch to be resting in peace, but I believe we just cease to exist upon death as did the AtheiHitch
To remain consistent to my belief I should have said; “May he never know that he, anyone, or anything had ever existed to begin with, and be feeding worms well.‘Lol!
Nevertheless, for all I really know, he may be RIP (Roasting In Perdition)
*Non-Contradiction To Own Belief May Be Roasting In Perdition Translation
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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"He was able to put religon and its nonsense into perspective for everyone to see"--anthill
Ut oh, I feel another *N-D Translation coming on.
*N-D Translation: The AtheiHitch could not reconcile being in logical contradiction to his own ideology if God/s does not exist, thus atheism true.
What possible rational justification is there to be adverse to that (everything) which would be self-propagated natural processes in effective manifestation if atheism were true?
*Non-Delusion Translation
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
“...fill Hitchen's shoes one day--anthill
*N-D S M Translation: There’s an never ending supply of arrogant bombastic buffoons in the world and always will be.
There’s also plenteous gullible fools, desperate to hear just what they want toward self-affirmation.
Forget about “filling the AtheiHitch’s shoes“ The question is; “Who'll be the next “brilliant” con man to fill their bank accounts with the money of suckers who readily buy into such crap?
*Non-Delusional Suckers Money Translation
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps You don't need a God to find meaning in your life. Also, let me just say your argument is completely retarded. The theory that life can not exist with out meaning, afterlife, or god is moronic.
C1Era 1 month ago
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@C1Era
"You don't need a God to find meaning in your life. Also, let me just say your argument is completely retarded. The theory that life can not exist with out meaning, afterlife, or god is moronic"
Well that's all just splendid!, but since you've blathered nothing but your biased opinionated drivel with not one example of anything to demonstrate what it is that you're even babbling about, it would appear that the "retarded moronic" disposition is all about you.
Hope this helps!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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"Must be sad and boring to live in this babble filled world in shich christians believe.I am so content to have been able to shake of this cult at a young age"
If you're so "content" then why are you here trying to find an iota of meaning in your life, for which you would have none if your atheism is true?
Your failure for inability to provide a rational reason to believe your life, anyone's, or anything, would have any objective meaning if atheism were true and God/s doesn't exist proves it.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
Must be sad and boring to live in this babble filled world in shich christians believe. I am so content to have been able to shake of this cult at a young age. It is much more difficult to erase these evils teaching at older ages.
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@fishqueen1972. Have you not realized you are trying to debate with a deluded individual? He or she is just yanking your shorts. Lol. I've been observing the dialog for about a week and its same old same old. Will not or cannot support the position and maintains support not required for faith. Lol. It is if you want to convince people.
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@fishqueen1972. Now you did it !!!
Probably get about 12 sentences of logeristicall fellatiable spritensish jibberash trashmatter. This will put you in your place for sure. Lollll. Peace be with you. Ha ha
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@fishqueen1972. Oh now you did it fishqueen. You irritated gecko-jump. Ha ha ha. Now your punishment is to endure page upon page of jibberish trying to showboat his or her mastering of a lexicon. That's worse than the lake of fire. Lolllllllllllll.
allanhill1 1 month ago
Just as we thought...more long winded phsyco-babble from salamander-hop a la billy lame(not a doctor craig. Oh well its been fun but gotta go now. Tell you what. If you ever come up with some intelligent support for religion let me know. Enjoy your insect fetish. Lolllllll.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Just as we thought...more long winded phsyco-babble from salamander-hop a la billy lame(not a doctor craig"
*N-D B O M A O Translation: I anthill, use a nosism to refer to myself, in lame attempts to make it appear as if I am sharing in the collective thoughts of others.
I proclaim ad nausem that Dr.Craig is not a doctor, but as any Proctologist would notice, I'm just blowing it out of my anal orifice. 'Lol
*Non-Delusional Blowing Out My Anal Orifice Translation
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Tell you what.If you ever come up with some intelligent support for religion let me know"
If you ever solve your persistent atheist contradiction conundrum, to reconcile being adverse to anything that would necessarily be the result of non-transcendent purposed coincidental happenstance, by self-propagated perpetually indemonstrable wishful naturalistic processes,( if atheism were true and God/s does not exist), than you would have become rational and a theist. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
I wonder if you would point out where and when I claimed the big bang theory and evolution were accurate and true? Again you're wrong. Lol. I have made one statement which could be described as belief. "Religion is insanity". This claim is based on observation and opinion.
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@allanhill1
"I wonder if you would point out where and when I claimed the big bang theory and evolution were accurate and true?'
I wouldn't even bother because your loaded question is also your straw man of my position, as neither the the "big bang theory" or the theory of evolution were ever in issue.
It's not even in contention of the universe having had a finite beginning in space-time and the origin of viable life is impertinent to diversity of life theory, thus F_ _L!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Again you're wrong. Lol. I have made one statement which could be described as belief"
Wongio as usual and ever.
Every time you make an claim which is many, in absolute, positive, factual terms without evidence, proof or the ability to support such claims, not only are you merely blathering your biased opinionated beliefs, but you assume the burden of proof for which you have miserably failed in every instance to provide.
Just for the fact...
(Cont'd
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
(Cont'd.... ...that you must have believed the "big bang theory" and "evolution" were ever in issue, when they were not, is demonstrative of (if not a mistake) an inferential claim and a false belief in itself.
Again, you are proven in logical contradiction and inconsistent to your own belief.
You have...
(Cont'd
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
(Cont'd...
...no rational justification to be adverse to anything, (including religion/s) which would necessarily be everything as natural phenomena displayed in effective manifestation to be "insanity", if atheism were true and God/s does not exist.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"This claim is based on observation and opinion"
Your "claim" is baseless blather.
Your biased opinion of what you asses in "observation" to be "insane", wrong "atrocious, good, bad, etc. is just as valid as any others subjective opinion, if everything is the result of non-transcendent purposed, coincidental happenstance by self-propagated natural processes and phenomena displayed in effective manifestation.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
Atheism is 'insanity", when adverse to religiosity, theism, etc., intrinsic to human nature, just as it would be insane to be adverse to any other phenomena in effective manifestation.
Atheism/atheists can provide no rational justification to be in contention/condescension to that which would necessarily be human natural phenomena in effective manifestation, if atheism were true, God/s does not exist, thus all religions false.
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
Nope !!!! Lol. Wrong again. I also "don't" believe in easter bunnies or unicorns. Angels and demons neither. I "don't" believe in magic or witchcraft. The burden is yours. Lol.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Nope !!!! Lol. Wrong again. I also..."believe everything created itself for nothing.
Wrongio as ever Cheeky Obstinatio
You've made a blithering all inclusive absolute positive assertion that "religion is insanity", Therefore, the burden is all yours to prove that you''re not insane for believing that everything created itself for nothing, and that you're not insane for believing that natural phenomena is "insanity" No can do? Then Insane Crickets to you >^+&0=%@..#
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
Oh dear!!! Where do I begin??? I know.....I never claimed that god does not exist. Lol. I merely reject yours and others claims that it exists. Maybe if you type another twelve paragraphs or more of babble and yada yada I too could accept your fantasy story. Who knows. Ha ha.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Oh dear!!! Where do I begin???... I will dodge with more blather.
You have commenced firing with blanks again and your point is moot.
It doesn't matter if you ever claimed God/s doesn't exist or didn't.
The very fact that atheism is the belief that no God/s exist proves that you have no rational justification ("insanity") to be adverse to that (everything) which would necessarily be simply self-propagated natural processes and phenomena in effective manifestation. :)
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
Oh yes I forgot...Thank you!! I thought we made a nice couple. :)
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@allanhill1
"Oh yes I forgot...Thank you!! I thought we made a nice couple. :)"
No need to thank me Magoo.
Afterall, you're the one who chose to pair up with another momentous logistically fallacious, scientifically challenged, ignoramus of epic proportioned buffoon such as you.
Perhaps you could have boobbottoms carry out the civil union in
Folly matrimony.
After he pronounces you buffoon and buffoon he could end the proceeding by saying; "you may now kiss my boobs. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
LoLlll. Colorful as always. Irritating...of course !! Relevant...not even close. Effective...not in the least. Able to argue your case?? Well you don't even seem to try. This is because there is no argument. Religion is insane. Lollll.
allanhill1 1 month ago
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@allanhill1
"Well you don't even seem to try. This is because there is no argument. Religion is insane"
Au contraire dearest Magoo, as the insanity and failure to "argue your case" is all about you.
Observe: If God exists, then it would be God's sovereign prerogative to do, allow done, or not do, with that which are God's own possessions/property, (everything) for God's transcendent purpose/s and by whatever means and methods God so chooses.
If God doesn't exist...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
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...then everything would be the result of self-propagated naturalistic process and natural phenomena in effective manifestation including the proclivity of religiosity, theism etc. intrinsic to human nature.
Atheist argument: None. If the cosmos and life was the result of self-propagated naturalistic processes then there is no rational justification to be adverse to any naturalistic processes in effective manifestation.
And If God does exist,...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
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...then there's no rational justification to be adverse to anything God does, has done, or doesn't do, despite the mere bleating creatures inability or unwillingness to understand, or just not liking it.
So you have no argument either way.
And you're in irrational, logical contradiction to your own belief if atheism were true and God/s doesn't exist, because you've called what would just be natural phenomena in effective manifestation "insanity", thus Fail!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
"See what I mean!!! Lots a nonsensical chatter and..."I'm still blathering"
Say Mr.Magoo, I'm not usually one to tell a buffoon his business, but in your case I'll make an exception.
If you're looking to mutuality validate your FAITH in belief of everything, by nothing you will ever know, for nothing that you just don't know, then you've chosen the right mate.
Although madhico is a flightless kiwi, you're birds of a feather in logically fallacious reasoning and make a very lovely pair.'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@mehico33. See what I mean!!! Lots a nonsensical chatter and still unable to support his belief (or her) lolll. It used to be cute now its just boring.
allanhill1 1 month ago
Such babble. This buffoon wasn't brilliant.
He just had like minded buffoons fooled into thinking he was.
"...a child can and *ALL children* actually do see through them", errr What?!?!
Well that's an easily proven false generalization.
Try telling a child; "everything exploded itself into existence by self-propagated naturalistic processes as happenstance, for no purpose whatsoever and watch as Finster streaks off in panicked screams of; "daddy and mommy have gone full blown bonkers!!!! 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps you strike me as just a ridiculous person.
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@monkeymagoo47
"you strike me as just a ridiculous person"
Well then please allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like bulls eye bottom.
You strike me as "just a ridiculous person" who ridiculously claims that I "strike you as just a ridiculousness person", but you're the one who prances about with your boob bottom, proudly proclaiming to the whole world that mosquitoes got the *best* of you. 'Lol!
Hope this helps, boob bottoms!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps Well. As a child I thought the Noah's Ark story was ridiculous. I knew that story didn't mesh with what we see in reality. I also remember a children's Bible book which was illustrated with pictures. It showed Abraham standing over Isaak with a knife, arm up, knife in hand, ready to stab. That didn't sit well with me as a child and it still doesn't.That story is evil.I also couldn't figure out how adults could KNOW a God exists or that people weren't lying in the Bible
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"Well. As a child I thought the Noah's Ark story was ridiculous..."
Well that's just splendid! but your point is moot.
That's because I asserted that the AtheiHitch provably/fallacious claimed "ALL children actually do see through them" which is not true by any stretch.
Moreover, how do you "KNOW" as fact that the in earnest, authoritative, written in classic historical narrative style attestations of God's interactions and revelations in the bible are "lies"?
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps 1) Father, son, & holy spirit doesn't equal one god. That goes against the principles of mathematics. God is father and son. That goes against the law of self identity.There are also things in the Bible that violate the law of non-contradiction. So I can exclude those claims or concepts of Christianity b/c they violate axioms which is impossible. People have created thousands of cults over time based on lies or misapprehensions. You might as well believe in Peter Pan.
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"1) Father, son, & holy spirit doesn't equal one god. That goes against the principles of mathematics..."
There is no rational reason or justification to attempt to apply the principles of "mathematics" or fallible, feeble, flawed, limited logic when hypothesizing of a God to have been responsible for the creation of all things in existence.
It is utterly irrational via flawed logic to believe that you could "exclude"...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd...
...that which would not be bound by, nor under subjection to that which would be his own creation and instillation.
You have no objective evidence which could prove that the attestations of God in Jesus Christ are "lies" (as you claim) to the preclusion of God, but rather are foolishly thinking you've done so by arguing from ignorance in logically fallacious reasoning and argumentation and by the very logic you speciously claim disproves God. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
The rest of your biased opinionated blather, to your non-sequitur-false analogy conclusion is further invalid/disqualified on it's logically fallacious face, as "Peter Pan" was never meant to be taken as anything other than fiction, thus Fail!
Face it Ichthyofemroyal, you dont know if you will not stand and give an account for your life on your attested immanent day of Judgment to eternal conscious destination, despite your fondest wishes or alleged logic.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps So basically your beliefs are unfalsifiable. Correct? Meaning, we will never know if they are true or not because you make it impossible to dispute. In your world anything goes. You can believe whatever you want and you don't have to provide evidence. That was my reason for bringing up Peter Pan. lol..I will assume you are Christian, it would be the Christians who believe they get a free pass from punishment. Jesus paid the price of sins. How convenient.
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Dont forget the talking snake. Its at the very beginning of the book. And the whole of christianity and judais is based on this book. And they accuse us of coming to conclusions without using logic and common sense. I want to say its laughable but really it is very very sad
allanhill1 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"So basically your beliefs are unfalsifiable.
Certainly, "your beliefs are unfalsifiable"
Science has nothing to say one way or the other of that which is defined/purported to be in essence of the Supernatural, therefore belief by faith in theism, etc. is irrelevant to the philosophy of science in relation to the scientific method toward empirical testability in definitive explanations of natural phenomena.
You could...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd...
..never know if your belief by FAITH of the origination of the cosmos and life to have arisen on the earth can credit their origination/s to naturalistic mechanistic processes, even if such conjectural process did exist and were responsible for said origination/s.
One cannot physically regress in space-time to implement scientific testability of that which was actually responsible for said origination/s,...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
...and there are no possible viable hypothesis with working models for that which is not observably, sensually, detected (empirically) in pertinence to said origination/s.
Neither universes, nor viable life from non-living matter have ever been observed coming into existence, and mathematical theorems cannot yield explanations as derived from scientific testability toward empirical knowledge in definitive explanations.
Consequently, for lack...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
...of any viable hypothesis availing toward testability, neither the origination of universe or viable life's having originated from the pre-biotic earth, "Peterpanspermia or other is "falsifiable", thus your FAITH is rendered a pseudo-science fiction fantasy.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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@Fishqueen1972
"You can believe whatever you want and you don't have to provide evidence"
That was my reason for bringing up Peter Pan"
Your point is moot, as anyone can believe whatever they want and they don't have to provide evidence.
Faith defined is not contingent on, nor has prerequisites of objective evidence or proof, therefore is exempt from any burden of proof.
Furthermore, for whatever "reason-excuse that you claim to have brought up "Peter "Pan,...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd...
...was/is logically fallacious, unsound, invalid, thus unjustified reasoning for an non- sequitur via false analogy, since Peter Pan was written in fictional narrative and the in earnest authoritative written in classical historical narrative of God in Jesus Christ, which has justifiable grounds for belief by faith, were not.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
'it would be the Christians who believe they get a free pass from punishment. Jesus paid the price of sins. How convenient"
False for compounded logical fallacies of begging proposition and oversimplification fallacies.
Conversely, I can turn this around on you and not commit the fallacies.
Observe: It would be atheists who believe that there's no such thing as God/s or sinfulness, so they believe they get a free pass from punishment. How convenient. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps You love to make asserations. Again, you have rendered your belief system unfalsifiable. You can belief whatever you want with the banner of faith. "Conversely, I can turn this around on you and not commit the fallacies." I already did that to you. Any faith system which uses a threat to be coercisive should be put on notice as highly suspect. The atheist believe humans make eachother accountable and believe there are natural punishments for our actions. cont....
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 cont....And we don't allow someone else to pay for our crimes and then claim that is good. There is nothing virtuous about allowing someone else to pay for your crimes. And we don't think that cruel and unusual punishment is good or just. I am finished here. You can believe what you want.
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"You can believe what you want"
Ok, I'm prone to do that as is everyone else, so you will likely do same. 'Lol
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"I am finished here"
Then please allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like in a poem.
You were finished before you'd begun
And despite your frustration, I truly had...errr Fish! 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"You love to make asserations"
It would appear that you *love to make asserations* of me allegedly *loving to make asserations*
Having said that, if I knew what *asserations* even are, then I might know what possible relevance that your allegation of my *loving to make asserations* has to do with anything in issue, and what these alleged *asserations* which you assert that I *love to make*, even were. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"Again, you have rendered your belief system unfalsifiable"
Again, anything defined or purported in essence of the Supernatural is irrelevant to the scientific method and philosophy thereof, so I have "rendered" nothing anything, for that which something is, it simply is.
Hope this helps!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps Like I said, "unfalsifiable". "Supernatural" is basically another way of saying, "I don't know." See ya.....
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
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@Fishqueen1972
"Like I said, "unfalsifiable". "Supernatural" is basically another way of saying, "I don't know"
Like I say, quote mining yourself, concocting a straw man by inference, false factually redefining what words and terms mean will not produce empirical knowledge in definitive explanations of how the cosmos and viable life originated on the earth.
However these do reveal your obstinacy, frustration for stymied befuddlement and logically bankrupt status.
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
One cannot physically regress in space time to implement the scientific method to attain empirical knowledge in definitive explanations of said origination.
Consequently, your untestable in hypothesis, *unfalsifiable* fondest pseudo-science fiction fantasy FAITH of the cosmos and life to have self-propagated...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
Cont'd...
...in random, non-transcendent purposed coincidental happenstance, by perpetually indemonstrable wishful naturalistic processes will never be realized, and even if such said processes were responsible.
Thus, pure wish, Go fish!, but no fish.'Lol!
But it gets worse....
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
You could never even know if your atheism is true and wishful FAITH of everything to have propagated itself for nothing.
If God/s does not exist, then all knowledge ever acquired, accomplishments experiences, everyone and everything would be as if you, no one, and nothing, had ever existed in the first place, if all conscious existence ceases upon death.
Conversely, your very best prospect is to only know if you are dead wrong and God/s does exist.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"You can belief whatever you want with the banner of faith"
So can you and anyone as I've already elaborated upon, so your point is moot.
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@LizardLeaps Ok then, describe "supernatural or GOD" without referring to what it is NOT. Spaceless, timeless, Immaterial are the usual descriptions of GOd or the supernatural. You may include "consciousness" when referring to God. If that is the case, then describe how consciousness works as it relates to God being spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. If you can't, then you have basically admitted, "I don't know". Why should anyone take you seriously?
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
You're logic is flawed-fallacious from the word go.
There's no imperative or burden to prove that which could only be deemed in the realms of the immaterial and based on faith by the very definition of faith, not contingent on objective evidence or proof.
But it get's worse.
Your logic fails for your premise to false conclusion in argument from ignorance that the inability to know something means that something shouldn't be taken seriously (dismissed)
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
Moreover, if you wish to remain consistent to your own failed logic and wishful FAITH, then define what the alleged naturalistic mechanistic process were/are to have been responsible for the origination of the cosmos and viable life having arisen on the earth? no can do then, "seriously" Crickets.................... to you.
But it gets way worse, so hang onto your bait bag Fishqueen. 'Lol!
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
Your FAITH in the cosmos and viable life to have self-propagated is perpetually non-empirically testable in hypothesis and it is undetectable conjectural phenomena never observed, can have no working models, thus it's unfalsifiable", so it's pseudo-science fiction FAITH and shouldn't be taken "seriously"
See what happens...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd....
...when you parrot in logically fallacious canned atheistic propaganda rhetoric, via specious argumentation in failed attempts to shift the burden of proof fish?
You get filleted. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps Anyone can make false statements and claim they won an argument. (you)---Anything that is defined as spaceless and immaterial does not exist--thus with your definition of god, he does not exist. When the sperm meets with the egg, is which sperm a random event?? Or is it predestined? Did SOMETHING direct a specific sperm to get their first? I dont' know what reality you live in, but I don't think we are part of some program or directed design. That's absurd.
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
Wrongio Delusius Obstinato Denialotto. (You) can deny that your reasoning and argument/s has been proven invalid/disqualified for employment of the logically fallacy of argument from ignorance, but it's "absurd" to think that unsound reasoning will somehow transform itself into sound reasoning and argumentation, as if by some magical process of reverse osmosis.
This atheism thingy has rendered (you) logically bankrupt and far too self-decieved to realize it.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"Anything that is defined as spaceless and immaterial does not exist..."because I parrot this ad nauseam atheistic blather and say so.
Nice parroting in logically flawed, atheistic propaganda rhetoric, as if that which you've taken the liberty to hypothesize of (God/s as Creator of all things existent) would necessitate conformity, and be under subjection to his creation and your mere bleating creature, feeble, fallible, limited logic or be precluded.
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Are you ready for a page and a half of logistirolly falbatious spunktrum mushratious golbarge ?????? It will come...I have forseen it and prhophetised it (thats kind of like "biggied it"). It will come to pass. I feel like a god now. I will have my terrified slaves write some books and then put them all together and call it the' bribal" Ye shall roast in brook of sparks with the chatting serpent ahter you swallow some grapes. Sound familiar?
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1 lol.....
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Read on..... I told you. Obviously the mind of a teenager with a gripe. Not worth the attention given lol
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1 Read again "the red herring attemp to divert from the actual issue" This is his or her entire strategy since the beginning.. Go back and follow all the comments and you will notice never once any meager attempt to explain why the belief ing god. Always alluding that nonbelief is what requires proof. Obvious lack of intellect. lollll Usually by-product of bible reading
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Go back and follow all the comments and you will notice..."my litany of logical fallacies and irrelevancy diversions
Nonsense Magoo. I disavow all liability/responsibility for your failed and sub-standard cognitive abilities.
It's axiomatic to believe in God/s, religiosity, spiritualism etc.,as intrinsic to human nature and a freak of human nature to believe that everything created itself, by itself, for absolutely nothing whatsoever. It's irrational not to believe.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Not unike an kid in the backseat continually repeating "Are we there yet?" for miles on end ha ha ha . First reaction is to smack it in the face but then upon realising youre dealing with an infantile brain you refrain and just let them ramble on. Usually the stop after awhile.
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Not unike an kid in the backseat..."I blather, bleat, bla, bla, burp..."Usually the stop after awhile"
Your theory of incessant rambling nonsensical blather cessation has been falsified by yourself.
Obseve: You've been doing this for the entire ride, and despite your having been verbally smacked in the face innumerable times, you just continue to burp up more pablum and ramble on as the oblivious Finster that you've proved to be.
That said,...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
... I do sympathize, but not emphasize with you, since I don't know what it's like to be in direct contradiction to my own beliefs as your persistent atheistic conundrum has rendered you.
Care to finally stop averting, deflecting, and blathering in utter irrelevancies as demonstrative of your frustration for perpetually stymied befuddlement and provide rational justification for being adverse to religiosity etc. if atheism true and... Go!? Crickets............
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 There is paragragh two. Not surprized if there is at least two more !!!! Its a shame these words donot actually make sense or say anything of substance lol
allanhill1 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Again it is clear as day. No understanding of the difference between believing in a concept without evidence or logic. and theories and laws which are the result of study and analyisis. These people just conotinure to spew out that atheism is a belief system which of course is not. lol Lack of belief people. Jusat ry to grasp this concept Lack of belief in god as there is no rational logistic reason to buy into this belief.
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Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@allanhill1 I agree, must be a kid.
Fishqueen1972 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 Would seem so. Unable to grasp a simple concept as the burden to support a claim and that non believers do not claim any existence of supreme beings lol.. Well maybe santa claus....I got a pic of me on his lap. At least it evidence. Not irrefutable nut it is evidence which requires analysis. Something religious people are unable to understand...analysis and study. Have a great day
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Unable to grasp a simple concept..." as just more blithering prattle.
I realize that you're unwilling to recognize ("grasp") your atheistic propagandize (brainwashed) bias in fallacious positive "claim" ("concept"), used ad nauseam as a deceitful ploy, in pitifully failed attempts to validate your denial and shift the burden of proof.
Regardless of this, the belief in God/s by faith...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
(Cont'd...
...is not a positive claim in itself, and faith as defined is not contingent on objective evidence of proof, therefore has no such "burden of proof"
The very best that you've done with these facts was to transparently avert, via your ad hominem response of "al a Billy lame (not a doctor) craig"
Moreover, you have so numerously committed other various logical and factual fallacies in reasoning-argumentation throughout our discourse...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
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...that I'm going to need to get a larger abacus to tabulate them all. 'Lol!
You've proven to be an very deceived-self-deceived-deceitful, obstinate, trollish, bratty, poor loser, which would be readily evident to those whom unlike you, are true critical free thinkers and rationally sound of mind.
But it gets better...(for me)
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
Please allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like and was going to anyhow.
You as one of my test subjects, has supplied a bounty of very useful data for my research study, with objectives to categorically demonstrate the persistent logically fallacious reasoning-argumentation and deceptive devices utilized, in relation to an denial complex as pervasive and integral to the standard atheistic mode of mindset.
Thanks so much and hope this helps!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972 were getting to him...or her. lol
allanhill1 1 month ago
@allanhill1
"Again it is clear as day... blater bla bla burp... "and theories and laws which are the result of study and analyisis"
Well there's another of your problems rearing it's not so calmly head once again in logically fallacious reasoning, all the more proving your momentous logically bankrupt status.
You beyond laughably think that it's "clear as day" to *affirm the consequent* in logically fallacious reasoning, by interjecting 'theories, laws and analysis"...
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LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
(Cont'd...
...as being the "result" of your pseudo-science fiction, wishful fantasy FAITH in perpetually indemonstrable naturalistic mechanistic processes, whilst being persistently as clueless as a cabbage (no offense to cabbages) to ever know if any such wishful naturalistic processes even exist in the first place. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@allanhill1
Say Bill Deny, pseudoscience guy, this thinking-reasoning business doesn't appear to be your forte.
Why not take up another hobby such as wind chasing or grass grow watching, as you couldn't possibly do any worse at these than you've done at this. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
Consequently, for your beyond pitiful efforts, irrational, illogical, fool Fail! is all you've earned for this latest installment of critically injured enslaved thinkers blather... as opposed to and for the free and critical thinker that you've decieved yourself into believing/thinking you are.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"When the sperm meets with the egg, is which sperm a random event?..." Or a red herring fallacy"
So Sorry, Diversio Illogicalmucho, but this red herring attempt to divert from the actual issue (being your perpetual stymied befuddlement) of how everything originated as persistently unfalsifiable, thus mere pseudo-science fiction fantasy wishful FAITH that everything propagated itself for nothing has earned you another Illogical decietful foolish fantasy FAITH Fail!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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@Fishqueen1972
"I dont' know what reality you live in,but I don't think we are part of some program or directed design.That's absurd"
Then allow me to break this to you as gently as I possibly feel like Absurdicus Ignoraminus.
Even in this day and age, as I speak and as you blather, the CIA FactBook of World Demographics has atheism tabulated as an anomalous, tenuous, est. 2.03% worldwide, and this when atheism has had it's strongest insurgence in all of recorded history.
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
Your alleged "reality" of "what you think" proves "absurdity" is in actuality, your biased opinionated presuposition of thinking in anomalous freak of human nature mode, for thinking/believing that everything created itself, by itself, and for nothing whatsoever.
Therefore, without an iota of objective evidence or proof to support your belief, please allow me to be the first to welcome you to the wonderful world of FAITH!, as absurd as yours is.
Hope this helps
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
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@Fishqueen1972
"I already did that to you"
No, you committed the compounded logical fallacies of oversimplification and begging the question fallacies
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
"Any faith system which uses a threat to be coercisive should be put on notice as highly suspect"
Then notice this: If atheism were true, God/s doesn't exist, thus all religion/s false, then any "faith system" of any kind, as everything existent, would ultimately be the result of non-purposed coincidental happenstance, by self-propagated naturalistic mechanistic processes and phenomena displaying itself in effective manifestation.
(Cont'd
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@Fishqueen1972
(Cont'd
What possible rational justification is there to be "highly suspect" of any natural phenomena in effective manifestation and to then to put it on notice? Crickets................................
P.S. Because I, Fishqueen said so will not be accepted as a valid answer, and will be disqualified as it has already been. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
so you end up wiht a different and fuller definition of what god (may be like)
iBeep2009 1 month ago
it was the truth as explained to a series of men 2000 years ago- Genesis is the 'a stork brings them' version of the creation of the universe. 2,000 years from now , the Big Bang theory is going to look even more stupid than it does now. Its just another 'creation myth',like Genesis, explained by scientists who dont even understand quantum physics . I think you can teach Genesis in schools as an example of a scientific paradigm - ie you can falsify it - you then have to makeanewmodel..
iBeep2009 1 month ago
did he miss the 'through a glass darkly ' bit in the bible? ie if you are trying to explain 'sex' to a child, you have to lie, because they dont have enough knowledge to understand the truth. And 2,000 years ago, most people couldnt even read adn write, let alone know what DNA was, so they had to be told 'do not have sex with your siblings' simply to help them avoid causing a baby to have to walk around the world in a body that didnt work properly , with all the disappointmentsit brings them.
iBeep2009 1 month ago
While I do believe Hitchens was brilliant. His religion of the state is just as dangerous as it is based of the illusion that the state is just
dmfc593 1 month ago
You have fallaciously asserted this as if fact, when it's in fact, merely your proven hypocritical double standard biased opinion of FAITH based “belief“
So sorry Magoo, but hypocritical, delusional denial, obstinate double standard, "compulsion" in expressed "belief" by FAITH, thus F_ _ L! F_ _L!
P.S. Ive left you 2 to fill in the blanks, because OO and AI need be inserted to fully cover this latest momentous blunder of yours. 'Lol!
Hope this helps!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@LizardLeaps WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING
monkeymagoo47 1 month ago
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@monkeymagoo47
"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING"
I will tell you that it is absolutely nothing like you said in your profile page: "I once got two mosquito bites on my ass, one in the center of each cheek, and so my ass looked like boobs"-- monkeymagoo aka Boobbottoms
One can only wonder why you were prancing about, offering your bare bum to every bugger that wished a go at it. 'Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@monkeymagoo47 Hes exercising his pretentious vocabulary, he's not really saying anything.
mehico33 1 month ago
@mehico33
"Hes exercising his pretentious vocabulary, he's not really saying anything"
*N-D S L R B H B B Translation: I failed miserably trying to debate lizard. I'm a sore loser and just pretend to not understand him. He handed me my sit down apparatus in a hand basket, so I haven't been able to sit for days.
May I borrow one of your boob like bottoms?, as a half ass is better than none at all. 'Lol!
*Non-Delusional Sore Loser Request to Borrow Half Boob Bottom Translation
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
@mehico33 like seriously, this is some of the weirdest shit I've ever read
monkeymagoo47 1 month ago
"You are deluded. Sorry”--anthill aka Mr.Magoo
Well just looky there!
You are a proven hypocrite, but far too “deluded” and irrationally obstinate to realize this fact.
You've again expressed your FAITH based “belief”, with no objective evidence or proof in support.
Observe:...
LizardLeaps 1 month ago
(Cont'd...
...you're going to need to abolish the unalienable rights of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and the right of free exercise of religion, but your first option is far more likely to achieve for you, your desired result. ‘Lol!
LizardLeaps 1 month ago