Another point: the idea that the name Iasi comes from "iesi!" ("get out" in Romanian) is a legend. It most probably comes from the Jassic people (in romanian "Iasi" or "Iazyges"). Of course those Jassics who joined the Hungarians were loyal to them and became Hungarian over time. But those Jassics who did not join the Magyars and did not go to Hungary, but rather stayed here in central Moldavia, those Jassics became Moldavian and did not have a connection to Magyars. After all they stayed behind
Multumesc for your comments maegov! Iasi is a Romanian city and it belongs to Romania. I only used the Hungarian name as well because I am Magyar and surely it is not a problem. I present this video to the Hungarians, Romanians and everyone who visits my channel!
You are free to watch my other videos just like everyone else.
Also as far as I know "Jassy" is what the Poles used to call our city. I've always thought it to be very appropriate since Moldavia was closely aligned with Poland (and then Poland-Lithuania)... rather than with Hungary. But again, chill, it's a video done by a Magyar for a Magyar audience. No one would expect a Greek to call Konstantinoupoli by the name of Istanbul in a video done for Greeks... Would we?
Matyas Kiraly, King of Hungary had a very powerful influence over Moldova ( Moldva ), under his Reign it was called JASZVAROS.
Its name indeed comes from the Jasz people who inhabitat the region ( Moldova ) in the 13th Century and it was their trade center.
Some of them left Moldavia for Hungary ( probably due to the Tartar Invasion ) and settled in todays Jasszsag around the river Zagyva with the biggest city Jaszbereny, the rest was assimilated in Moldova like the Csango people.
@lugano288 Also I will point out that the Cumans are in the same situation as the Jassic people. SOME of them stayed in Moldavia and Wallachia and became Romanians. Just like the Franks in France, who became French, despite being Germanic originally. The Romanian nobility has mainly Slavic origins, but some families have Cuman progenitors.
@lugano288 The Cumans ans Jassics, UNLIKE the Csangos were NOT Magyar BEFORE arriving in Hungary. They assimilated into the Hungarian nation after they arrived in Hungary. Of course the Cumans and the Jassics were not Vlachs/Romanians either. The Cumans were Oghuz Turks (like the Turks in Turkey), albeit Christian, and the Jassics were Scythic (Iranic). It's very simple: the ones who went to Hungary became Magyar, the ones that stayed in Moldavia became Moldavian.
@lugano288 Mr. you should first learn English better before attempting to engage in a discussion uttering this language. The fact that the Jassic people inhabited Central Moldavia is just what I've said. I only pointed out that not all of them went to Hungary. SOME of them stayed in Moldavia even after the Great Mongol Raids in 1241. Those that stayed became Moldavians/Romanians. Those that went to Hungary (i.e. over the mountains) became Magyar. It's that simple.
@maegov Also I should point out that the Jassic people only inhabbited central Moldavia. Other regions were inhabbited by Vlachs (Romanians). The Cumans and the Slavs before them who lived in Moldavia and Wallachia were the lords of the land. But the peasants who worked the lands were Vlachs (i.e. romanised people, i.e. Romanians). Before Romanisation there were all kinds of peoples in Moldavia: Gaetae (Dacians), Scythians and Sarmatians, Germanics, Celtics etc.
Jászvásár is the name that the Kingdom of Hungary used for the city of Iasi starting basically with the 15th century. Aski was in the same place but today's city started around the reign of Alexander the Good (beggining of the 15th century). Being a video by a Magyar I don't see the problem. BUT there is no connection between the name "Jászvásár" and Iasi other than that between the name "Londra" (in Romanian) and the city of London. It's just what they call our city. So cill people!
I'm a romanian from Iasi. Indeed there was a Sarmatian (Iranic) people called the Jassic people. A part of them joined with the Magyars and went to Hungary over the mountains: those ones became Magyars. Another part of the Jassic people lived in central Moldavia in the 13th century. Their capital was Aski (today's Iasi). These ones became Moldavian (i.e. Romanian) after the state of Moldavia was founded. Same people: some Magyarised, some Romanianised. Little traces on both sides. Long time ago
ok the video is beautiful i don t agree with the title ! i am from Iasi Jászvásár may refair that hungarians built this city sooo, i don t agree ! the old name od the city is Jassy ! but even jews can calim it because Iasi isיאס, Yas Municipium Dacorum-Iassiorum is the antiq name ! archaic form of the Romanian word "to exit" because the city was an important trade node in the region
Iaşi - jász - alanian name - jász - nominated the russian the alanians :)) alanians=sarmatians - indo-irnaian people - but living whith the hungarians and the most loyal ethnic group to the hungarians the jasz- jaszi:))
@TheHunpower1 Interesting point of view, but there are dozens of similar words in this world with no connexion between them, what so ever. Still i wouldn't totally exclude your opinion, mostly because of the proximity of ancient Dacia and Sarmatia (Scythia) !
But i hope that Jassy doesn't enter in the hungarian irredentist agenda :))))))
P.S: Absolutly wonderfull video, Mr666DemonX, thank you very much !!!
@SangeAlbastru1558 irredentist agenda lol ha ha ha - my grandfather and my grandmother born in Jászapáti - this area is alanian zone -lol I'm informed abot this dear romanian NATIONALIST .
The terrotory the alanians not for sale - this law are obbligaroty in the jasz- jaszy territory for more - more years - for more hundred years XD. The jasz people created the laws in this territories - and have nobilty !
@TheHunpower1 Allright, i understand. But this video it's about Jassy, Iasi, Jaszavar not Jaszapati !
Still a question rises: if the hungarians and their goverment apreciate so much the ancient and noble roots of the jaszi people, than why magyarize them ??? Why not preserve their unique culture ? Probably because that's an old hungarian habit ... not careing for others, just their own ... just sayin' !
Good video, thumbs up, too bad communists destroyed most of the good parts from the historical center, hope that more places from the city can be restored in the future.
The noble classes ( ELITE ) in Wallachia and Moldavia in the Middle Ages were mostly of Cuman Origin.
They intermarried with the Vlachs and Moldavians.
Some sources say that even the Basarabs were of Cuman origin.
lugano288 6 months ago
Amazing, so very amazing! Thumbs up!
butterfly906605 8 months ago
Hye demon, it is me Cristi, i am sorry for how i ve reacted, this is my second youtube chanel, you got a pozitive rate ! thank you for promoting Iasi
saftaromanok 9 months ago
Another point: the idea that the name Iasi comes from "iesi!" ("get out" in Romanian) is a legend. It most probably comes from the Jassic people (in romanian "Iasi" or "Iazyges"). Of course those Jassics who joined the Hungarians were loyal to them and became Hungarian over time. But those Jassics who did not join the Magyars and did not go to Hungary, but rather stayed here in central Moldavia, those Jassics became Moldavian and did not have a connection to Magyars. After all they stayed behind
maegov 9 months ago
@maegov
Multumesc for your comments maegov! Iasi is a Romanian city and it belongs to Romania. I only used the Hungarian name as well because I am Magyar and surely it is not a problem. I present this video to the Hungarians, Romanians and everyone who visits my channel!
You are free to watch my other videos just like everyone else.
Salut!
Mr666DemonX 9 months ago
Also as far as I know "Jassy" is what the Poles used to call our city. I've always thought it to be very appropriate since Moldavia was closely aligned with Poland (and then Poland-Lithuania)... rather than with Hungary. But again, chill, it's a video done by a Magyar for a Magyar audience. No one would expect a Greek to call Konstantinoupoli by the name of Istanbul in a video done for Greeks... Would we?
maegov 9 months ago
@maegov
Matyas Kiraly, King of Hungary had a very powerful influence over Moldova ( Moldva ), under his Reign it was called JASZVAROS.
Its name indeed comes from the Jasz people who inhabitat the region ( Moldova ) in the 13th Century and it was their trade center.
Some of them left Moldavia for Hungary ( probably due to the Tartar Invasion ) and settled in todays Jasszsag around the river Zagyva with the biggest city Jaszbereny, the rest was assimilated in Moldova like the Csango people.
lugano288 7 months ago
@lugano288 Also I will point out that the Cumans are in the same situation as the Jassic people. SOME of them stayed in Moldavia and Wallachia and became Romanians. Just like the Franks in France, who became French, despite being Germanic originally. The Romanian nobility has mainly Slavic origins, but some families have Cuman progenitors.
maegov 6 months ago
@lugano288 The Cumans ans Jassics, UNLIKE the Csangos were NOT Magyar BEFORE arriving in Hungary. They assimilated into the Hungarian nation after they arrived in Hungary. Of course the Cumans and the Jassics were not Vlachs/Romanians either. The Cumans were Oghuz Turks (like the Turks in Turkey), albeit Christian, and the Jassics were Scythic (Iranic). It's very simple: the ones who went to Hungary became Magyar, the ones that stayed in Moldavia became Moldavian.
maegov 6 months ago
@maegov
Mr. !!! You deny that it existed the JASZ PEOPLE in MOLDOVA, study more before you comment so many stupid things.
So what if the Poles called it Jassy, it still originates from the JASZ People, you either like it or not thats the truth.
The Cumans =KUNS inhabitat Moldavia too, long before the Rumanians arrived here, their destiny was the same WITH THE JASZ PEOPLE.
lugano288 7 months ago
@lugano288 Mr. you should first learn English better before attempting to engage in a discussion uttering this language. The fact that the Jassic people inhabited Central Moldavia is just what I've said. I only pointed out that not all of them went to Hungary. SOME of them stayed in Moldavia even after the Great Mongol Raids in 1241. Those that stayed became Moldavians/Romanians. Those that went to Hungary (i.e. over the mountains) became Magyar. It's that simple.
maegov 6 months ago
@maegov Also I should point out that the Jassic people only inhabbited central Moldavia. Other regions were inhabbited by Vlachs (Romanians). The Cumans and the Slavs before them who lived in Moldavia and Wallachia were the lords of the land. But the peasants who worked the lands were Vlachs (i.e. romanised people, i.e. Romanians). Before Romanisation there were all kinds of peoples in Moldavia: Gaetae (Dacians), Scythians and Sarmatians, Germanics, Celtics etc.
maegov 6 months ago
@maegov
You are right Jassy is in Central Moldavia, right ??, where the Jasz people lived.
Cumans inhabitat all Moldavia and Wallachia.
lugano288 6 months ago
Jászvásár is the name that the Kingdom of Hungary used for the city of Iasi starting basically with the 15th century. Aski was in the same place but today's city started around the reign of Alexander the Good (beggining of the 15th century). Being a video by a Magyar I don't see the problem. BUT there is no connection between the name "Jászvásár" and Iasi other than that between the name "Londra" (in Romanian) and the city of London. It's just what they call our city. So cill people!
maegov 9 months ago
I'm a romanian from Iasi. Indeed there was a Sarmatian (Iranic) people called the Jassic people. A part of them joined with the Magyars and went to Hungary over the mountains: those ones became Magyars. Another part of the Jassic people lived in central Moldavia in the 13th century. Their capital was Aski (today's Iasi). These ones became Moldavian (i.e. Romanian) after the state of Moldavia was founded. Same people: some Magyarised, some Romanianised. Little traces on both sides. Long time ago
maegov 9 months ago
ok the video is beautiful i don t agree with the title ! i am from Iasi Jászvásár may refair that hungarians built this city sooo, i don t agree ! the old name od the city is Jassy ! but even jews can calim it because Iasi isיאס, Yas Municipium Dacorum-Iassiorum is the antiq name ! archaic form of the Romanian word "to exit" because the city was an important trade node in the region
TheMistAnchorite 9 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite
Who cares what you agree with or not?
To Hell with you!
MrMagyarDemon 9 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite
The name says CLEARLY that JASSY or IASI originates from the JASZ People ( Jaszvasar hun. ), nothing to do with the Hungarians.
It would be really a coincineance, I do not believe in it.
If it did not originate from the Jassi ( JASZ Hun. ) people than from where the name, Iasi ????
lugano288 6 months ago
Excellent video!
TheHunpower1 9 months ago
Iaşi - jász - alanian name - jász - nominated the russian the alanians :)) alanians=sarmatians - indo-irnaian people - but living whith the hungarians and the most loyal ethnic group to the hungarians the jasz- jaszi:))
TheHunpower1 9 months ago
@TheHunpower1 Interesting point of view, but there are dozens of similar words in this world with no connexion between them, what so ever. Still i wouldn't totally exclude your opinion, mostly because of the proximity of ancient Dacia and Sarmatia (Scythia) !
But i hope that Jassy doesn't enter in the hungarian irredentist agenda :))))))
P.S: Absolutly wonderfull video, Mr666DemonX, thank you very much !!!
SangeAlbastru1558 9 months ago
@SangeAlbastru1558 irredentist agenda lol ha ha ha - my grandfather and my grandmother born in Jászapáti - this area is alanian zone -lol I'm informed abot this dear romanian NATIONALIST .
The terrotory the alanians not for sale - this law are obbligaroty in the jasz- jaszy territory for more - more years - for more hundred years XD. The jasz people created the laws in this territories - and have nobilty !
TheHunpower1 9 months ago
@TheHunpower1 Allright, i understand. But this video it's about Jassy, Iasi, Jaszavar not Jaszapati !
Still a question rises: if the hungarians and their goverment apreciate so much the ancient and noble roots of the jaszi people, than why magyarize them ??? Why not preserve their unique culture ? Probably because that's an old hungarian habit ... not careing for others, just their own ... just sayin' !
P.S: i prefer "patriot" not "nationalist" !
SangeAlbastru1558 9 months ago
Good video, thumbs up, too bad communists destroyed most of the good parts from the historical center, hope that more places from the city can be restored in the future.
alex4ucj 9 months ago
iasi capital of romania in the first world war, close to the pruth...very nice cultural city....
angliaknightident 9 months ago
Beautifull ... amazing ... superbe ! But most important ... THANK YOU !
gbgyf 9 months ago
More pleasant vacation memories from our summer trip, AKA "Demon Tour 2010"
;)
mkolibaba 9 months ago