Brad Stuart vs Ryan Whitney Nov 5, 2010

[Camov2]

Lol at the pointless fight going on the comments :P

[Kartracer6]

oh. That's close to an Aggressor penalty on Stuart. I think since he didn't really win the fight they didn't call him on the punches thrown after the fight was over.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 Ok, Scale 1-10, how bad do u want p kanes cock rammed down ur throat? U call that a fight? Y is it every video of a red wing player ur talking shit and with a hawk ur trying to suck their dick through utube? Ur so bias and have no life its sad. If u respond just answer this... Have u ever played hockey?

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 wow someone has anger issues. LOL even the announcer talks it could have been a penalty and that's saying a lot being wings announcers. He lost his jersey could have been 1 penalty and him throwing punches after the fight was over is another. It's just you don't know hockey and I do. Yes I do play you probably don't. Not bias at all you moron I just know the rules.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 If u played hockey u'd know the actual rules better. Ur just sitting on ur fatass spending to much time on utube and the online rule book. Do urself a favor and learn some MORE about hockey other than fantasizing about the hawks cumming in ur face. then having whitney come after him when he was facing the other way is legal or necessary? This is just a stupid play with both players needed to go sit in the box.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Oh i can't wait to own you again....What rule did I state wrong. You think you know more about hockey then me. You've yet to prove it, what rule is wrong. I can't wait to hear.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 What rule did u even state other than ur opinion on how u dont like the wings. u have yet to see how ur bias and u need to look at talent other than that on chicago. Both players here went out of line. Whitney should not have gone after him. The hit was clean, didnt go for the head, didnt leave his feet, player had possesion, but after the scrum was seperated he shouldnt have gone back after him. Whitney thinks he was sticking up for his player but cost his team. Its that simple

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 how can I be bias when I've yet to state an opinion LOL. Maybe that's your problem you don't read comments you just shoot your mouth off. Maybe you should read before typing. You did that last time and it took you nearly 2 months to admit to what I was saying about datsuyk was right. Legal hit or not fights happen to spring momentum into teams that's all he was doing. The penalties I was pointing out was

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 first, datsyuk shot was legal in all terms, and al of those "rule" r a horrible example in this case becuase this was a little scrap. U relize that there would be a lot more penalties and just stupid shit if they called everything u try to point on other players. and u had stated an opinion on ur first post. U try to manipulate things into a view which you deem reasonable but for nhl it is not. Their is no reason for this to have started if whitney didnt try to start shit. Clean hit

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 but still he went after stuart. He would be deemed the aggressor. U need to watch some hockey an see if they ever call ur interpertation of these rules. When u seem to be the only one with these opinions u post on videos and everyone else including nhl players, refs, announcers, and sportscasters disagree with u, thats when u need to stop posting shit. Also, look up the definition of bias and then look at why u try to trash the red wings so much

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 The wings announcers agreed on me on this one with the jersey coming off that it could have been a penalty. I see calls like this get called all the time. I love how when I state a rule you automatically dismiss it as not applied to this situation because it's your team. The rules match it's just you don't want your team to be known as getting away with a call because that would ruin your conspiricy theories. Your an idiot. The Datsyuk play you straight up agreed to what I

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 with datsyuk, i said if u try to analyse every word, u could make a case but in nhl terms it was a legal shot, great move, and made nieme look stupid, then u say he did a last effort shot with that. Thats bullshit and ur just pissed ur team looked stupid again. It must be hard seeing how the wings shit on all their oppenents and the hawks have trouble with teams like edmonton

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 stated then tried to deny it was true. Your simply a homer and a moron. Believe me I know 10 times more about the sport of hockey then you ever will. Explain to me how he doesn't get the penalty for continuing the fight? The fight is clearly over yet he is continuing to throw punches. The other 2 I can find reasons not to call but that one I've yet. I love how you wanna start fights over simple statements. How about instead of being a moron bias homer you open your eyes and

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 come the table with a defense. One big thing I was taught about making statements is if you say something you should always know how to back it up. You once again come to the table with mere opinions over my facts. I've stated no opinion on this call just rules and the sections in which support my claims. Oh and believe me I'd rather the Hawks beat teams like LA, St Louis, Vancouver and other top caliber teams then have to worry about beating Edmonton (which we did beat)

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 How come none of ur complaints r ever called in the nhl. All u do is bitch and post a rule which obvi didnt mean much to the nhl to not call it, nor review it, nor handout any suspensions or fines. All u do is complain then type back a paragraph how im dumb, ur right, and maybe a rule or 2 placed in there. Ur 5 games ahead of the wings but the wings r 4 points up. Ur 1-2 vs edmonton. And the please shut up with the jersey or atleast stop saying u know hockey... The jersey can come

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 untied u fucking idiot. Plenty of fights end up with jerseys being ripped or pulled off. U still have not noticed the fact that there was a clean hit, and then whitney jumps on him. Thats what makes u so bias is u have yet to mention anything about whitney, then u call it a fight when stuart wasnt looking and started to be groped. Stuart needed and got a 5 min penalty for fighting. After the play, that is up to the ref who is inbetween to call i asume since he is the 1 inbetween...

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 46.13 Jerseys-A player who engages in a fightand whose jersey is not properly “tied-down” (jersey properly fastened to pants), and who loses his jersey (completely off his torso) in that altercation, shall receive a game misconduct penalty. If it is still hanging from the tie down it's not a penalty. Who gives a shit on what Whitney did. His actions where obvious. It was a clean hit but he was trying to spark some fire into his team by fighting. 5 min for both of them. Now I

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 Actually whitney got 5 for fight, game misconduct, and 2 min instigator, so the refs saw pretty much all the blame on whitney and not stuart. And u basically agreed with me for the refs calling it based on the refs version on the fight, and y the fuck would i care if u spend ur free time trying to be a ref? all u do on here is post rules but they're not called. So u think ur level on reffing is superiour to the nhls refs? Their is no doubt that u have knowledge of the rulebook cuz it

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 seems like all u do is study it, but dont say u have knowledge of the game itself when all u post r bias opinion and rules. And really, idc if ur bias to a degree, but u just cant find it in ur heart to say the wings r the best team in the nhl, and u continue to try to trash them. and the jersey rule ur right about cancelling out cuz their was an instigation. but ur no bias rule remarks dont make sence becuase all u do is go blow the hawks dicks on videos, or complain about the wings

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Ya. I'm just smarter then you. You've yet to discredit any of my claims. And I've rarely if ever given an opinion. I've complimented Wings guys and found video's I've defended them. Your just an idiot. I've also faulted Hawks players for rules they didn't get caught for. In your world the refs must be perfect and never miss a call. But I bet next wings game you and your fan base will be bitching about getting screwed by bad calls.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 ha u r one stupid fucker. If u think ur right, go ahead, great thing about hockey is everyone has their team and they will always feel for that team and u just decide to hate on their rivals cuz u just take that personally. I even wonder if u went to college cuz if u have enough free time to ref and spend ur time reading the hockey rule book, then fight with people on utube, u must not have a full-time job of a higher level. And actually the wings wont bitch but laugh cuz we

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 continue to be the best team in the nhl right now. Everyone can agree with that or atleast place wash and det as the top 2. Also, if u click on the @hockeyfan thing, it shows all the videos ive commented on. On urs, its all pathedic car shit and u bitching about red wings or trying to defend the hawks...

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 I've got an associates in Emergency Medicine, Associates in Sports managment, Certified and Coaching and Reffing hockey, and I'm currently working for my BAA in Business Accounting. I'm close to being set up to work in a division for the Blackhawks orginization (provided things work out the way we plan). I know my rules in Hockey very well and I take a lot of pride in what I do. I don't hate the wings. I think the wings as an orginization is a very well developed club

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Their operating Income is just off the charts for being an american based team in a poorly economical city. I find their rich history (just as Chicago's) to be very interesting.  The team is a very well developed and strong team. I think if Vancouver can start clicking they will be this years cup champs but Detroit has made a more suprising run then expected considering it's downfalls of last year. I don't look at plays with bias eyes, I've applied no opinions of this play I

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 simply stated some rules that could have applied to this play. You seem to be extremely passionate of your team no doubt. But seriously you can't allow your passion and love to blind you and you can't be so angry when someone makes small observations. Refs miss calls, it happens. I just observed it just as the announcers did. As for what I comment on in other video's? Are you dumb? Do you not realize that you can expand your mind. I've done alot of study in many different

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 fields. So doing so I'm able to observe on multiple subjects.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 ha thanks for the life story. U will fit right in with the hawks organization becuz their fucking all morons. They have no hope for the cup unless a extremely rare occurance happens and everyone screws up. In vancouver, i agree, but atl i think if they can stay strong and healthy have the best chance for an upset. Ur comment r clearly bias since u have stated ur opinion on all ur videos and then throw a rule to try to back it up. The problem is u'd be reffing a lil kids game

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 What opinion? Name one? I mean seriously your going to make this claim what comment on this video did I make an opionion that would hinder my views?

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 ur first comment about a "fiight" that stuart lost, but thats minor and questionable. I was talking about the many other comments on the other dozen videos. Their is datsyuk, u saying he ment to do something else but just happened to pull a last second dangle, kronwall shitting on havlat u trash the wings, the chant video, and many more placed into those videos. If u cant find a bias statement in those comments, ur blind.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 he didn't really win the fight? Do you think he won this fight hands down? I stated it that way because it falls into context with rule 46.2 Aggressor A player must be deemed the aggressor when he has clearly won the fight. Stating he clearly won this fight would be bias. Anyone with an open mind would say it's questionable at best if he won this fight. Do you think he won this fight or something?

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 i dont really consider it a fight. more of a scrum with stuart being attacked from behind but as i said b4, look at the other dozen videos u trashed the wings on. Clear insults to detroit the city, sports teams, and the red wings organization. U cant make up ur mind with what u say one time and then the next. I said comment is a questionable call for more of just a statement of question.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Fight or scrum, it's penalized as a fight. All I simply stated was that Staurt was lucky he didn't get an additional penalty for his actions afterward. You got upset. I think the wings organization is a great organization. It's a large quantity of their fans I can't stand. You being the perfect example of why. You whine, bitch, and moan over little comments because god for bid your player might get something called against them. Like I said Whinny ass wings fan

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 Thats all u ever say and u will just find another video with a hawk getting shit on by a wing and try to pull some shit out of the rule book. U think the nhl is peewee hockey rules. Their not pussys like u. Wings fans r just the same as hawks fans and that is loyal to their team, respect opponents to a degree, and always cheer for their team. U go out looking for a fight on stupid shit and cant accept talent where it doesnt benefit ur team. Grow up and quit repeating ur insults

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 looking for fights? You keep commenting me on different video's you moron. God you whine a lot.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 yea since i just go onto all the wings rival teams and bitch about their players too.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 you commented me. So your off to a good start. LOL Whinny ass wings fan.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 How m i whining? Im just saying how ur a bias retard that thinks he is smarter than he is and also claims to be thing on 1 video and then another, ex: ur red neck nascar shit and then saying ur working on a job with hockey. Pick one faggit

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 wow you cry a lot.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 thats all u have to say cuz u know ur full of shit. U lie on utube to make urself seem like u have some intelligence even though ur a complete idiot.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Would you prefer Puffs or Kleenex?

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 nascar driver or hockey pro?

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 I bet tears are streaming down your face everytime you type a message. Not being able to prove me wrong must really kill you. Don't worry your not the first guy who's come to argue a fight but was unprepared. Don't talk shit if you can't back it up with evidence.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 ha u cant say shit anymore cuz now everyone can see how ur a fake. U claim to be a wanna be ref and starting to work in the chicago blackhawk organization but then in nascar videos u say ur starting up drivers. Ur full of shit. Ur just a pathedic redneck who has to much time on his hands. Y would anyone be crying when the person theyre going against u learn plays pretend on utube? its ok to be embarrasses. i would b 2 but i know who i am and not ashamed of it

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 wow your a whinny ass wings fan. all you do is cry. I prove you wrong and you cry. LOL then you make shit up trying to save your self. Maybe you shouldn't talk shit and I wouldn't have to put you in your place. This is twice now I've done it to you. When will you learn. You whinny ass wings fan.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 keep saying that but everyone can see ur a fucking fake bitch that cant stand being proven wrong or have people with other opinions than u. Ur a lying redneck retard. U lie about living in chicago, working for the hawks and staying u started up a nascar driving thing. I bet u just live in a trailer and r just a giant piece of white trash and uses utube to pretend to be something in this world. get a fucking life, im done wasting time with a fraud. (u should rly stop posting things)

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 What are you a moron who can't read? I never said I worked for the blackhawks I stated my school has me set up (if things go as planned) to possibly have a spot in the blackhawks orginization. I'm going for my BA in Accounting and I've already taken sports managment classes. As for starting up some Nascar thing I have no idea what the fuck drug your mom put in your food tonight but that doesn't exist. Twice I've proven you wrong and you continue to bitch.

[hockeyfano27]

@Kartracer6 u have a lot of free time then even though ur a full-time student in multi fields, ref, looking for job with "hawks" organization, then also u've been open wheel racing for 8 yrs. Uve proven nothing in this video just like the rest.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 it's 10 pm at night on a sunday. Of course I'm not in class or reffing a game. I raced 8 years from age 7-15. What's your point. That was an every other saturday thing. Oh big deal twice a month as a hobby. How does it go from that to me starting up some NASCAR thing? Are you really this stupid. You even admitted I was right in the Shootout video and here you just have failed to discredit my claim (as usual) Oh and I can comment while at work to. Unlike your job at

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Mcdonalds I have access to a computer.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Imagine that whitney got a 2 min instigation. If he didn't it was wrong. With a 2 min instigation the Jersey rule doesn't apply. How ever the attempt to continue the fight should have been called. Some refs call this some don't. I know my hockey you angry 5 year old retard. I've had training in reffing hockey and I've played years of hockey. I've studied the sport and I have more hockey knowledge now then you'll ever dream of having. No bias views just straight facts.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 Here is an idea. If you think your so right about these penalties then why not defend them using facts instead of opinions. I mean come on i've given 2 and reasons why they probably weren't applied. I mean seriously you think you know more then me about this why didn't you use those as defenses. The only one I can't dismiss is the attempting to continue a fight. Seriously I sit here trying to examine what calls may have been missed and you just sit and whine like a baby.

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 46.2 Aggressor – The aggressor in an altercation shall be the player who continues to throw punches in an attempt to inflict punishment on his opponent who is in a defenseless position or who is an unwilling combatant. on Stuart. This one is debatable because "a player must be deemed the aggressor when he has clearly won the fight". But the other penalty would have been

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 46.5 Continuing or Attempting to Continue a Fight - Any player who persists in continuing or attempting to continue a fight or altercation after he has been ordered by the Referee to stop, or who resists a Linesman in the discharge of his duties shall, at the discretion of the Referee, incur a misconduct or game misconduct penalty in addition to any penalties imposed.

and the 3rd penalty that could have been called on Stuart is

[Kartracer6]

@hockeyfano27 46.13 Jerseys....A player who engages in a fight and whose jersey is not properly “tied-down” (jersey properly fastened to pants), and who loses his jersey (completely off his torso) in that altercation, shall receive a game misconduct penalty. So which penalty do you wanna argue first.

[jayrillo0214]

once again, a good clean hit leads to a fight. i dont get it. its supposed to be a contact sport.

[Kartracer6]

@jayrillo0214 it has nothing to do with clean hits. It was done to create momentum. Or perhaps it was out of frustration. A big hit will lead to a fight clean hit or not. The reason guys do this is to make you pay for your big hit. I mean think about it wouldn't you think twice the next time your about to hit my guy if the last time you did it you got popped in the face with a few right hooks?

[jayrillo0214]

@Kartracer6: i agree with that to a point. i mean, scott stevens was one of the most feared hitters there was, but most of his hits were clean. and if they were, he usually didnt have to fight as much back then as guys have to today. i understand protecting your skill guys, but sometimes you just gotta chalk it up and take it like a man. i mean, it's a collision sport, just like football. you're gonna get hit.

[whosStevenn]

@jayrillo0214 100% agreed

[MrJuha82]

its my famous jibberish, like clergyman is writing for small humans and they gets to the panic AIH OUTCH OUH...

Usually i am saying, just stop sending messages to me or you are poor human who isnt good in God's eyes.

[oneofthemdeals]

Talk about clean hits, that was legit and an over reaction. just play the game

[Folgrum1000]

WOW, love Stuart throwing them when Whitney is being held down by the refs. Typical.

[SkeletonRiver]

@Folgrum1000 revenge for what brule did to ericcson

[blackman4550]

@Folgrum1000 hey fucking cunt licker how about brule getting his ass kick but then the ref putting ericsson in an armlock and letting brule pound away, so know your role and shut your mouth ps how does it feal being a fan of the biggest joke in the league?

[Gollskibros]

Cant the refs just let them fight i mean wtf

[SirBrutus07]

I think that ref should have gotten punched

[MrJuha82]

NO WINNER here, unfair fight to me.

No single shot landed.

[120pure021]

@MrJuha82 stop talking to people, and STOP posting on these fights ... you dont know what your talking about so people get mad at you EASY and also, your English is worse then a grade 2 kid tbh.

[seehound619]

Clear instigator penalty for whitney.... GREAT job by the officials on that one!!!!

[MrJuha82]

@seehound619 i would make that Whitney's move to you if we would meet in ice-hockey game haha...you would deserved it like Yourtearsmakemelaugh guy etcf some bastards more here....

or normal fight where i would punches you to the ground.

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

shut the fuck up you jumpsuit wearing faggot....lol

[MrJuha82]

@yourtearsmakemelaugh lol u dont stop your posting to me because you are falling in love to me.

Of course!! of course you loves me because everyone loves me in internet haha, joke joke.

in fact... i dont care if peoples dont like me, not fucking care.

My jumpsuit is cool and good, better than yours clothes.

[seehound619]

@MrJuha82 r u fucking kidding me???.... listen... I am 6 ft 1 225 pounds of tattoed muscled aggression..... I would put a pot knot on your forehead big enough for a calf to suckle on.

[MrHannan1992]

@seehound619 Sounds like you're lying.

[MrJuha82]

@seehound619 I am grity small guy but i have a good strenght on upperbody and my shoulders arm is strong actually.

Haha nice matchup me and you, the serie would be even one no winner.

and no winner in this verbal war.

Dont take so seriously me, take a piller to your angsty man and dont come fuck em to peoples in internet like someone yourtearsmakemelaugh(who is idiot mental bully clown btw and maybe you are too similar guy than him)

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

you cray ...and you are gay and retarded....lol

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

Juha is gay and wears jumpsuits from 1978....lol

[89MohaA]

@seehound619

nice description of your boyfriend. Is he always that aggressive when you don't get the sandwich prepared

[MrJuha82]

@89MohaA you bunch of guys are asshole-mental bullies who hasnt life outside of the computer.

I have a life even if i dont do much normal works.

I am my own life boss-man who drives by Mercedes Bench car...

You are attacking to each other.

My job is to defend myself in the internet from mental bullies and usually i owns them, as they sends many messages to me actually.

It tells something that they has got hurted or pissed off.

When i stop something, as always that Yourtears is sending messages

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

"Mercedes Bench"...hahahahahaha,,,,fucki­ng priceless

[MrJuha82]

@89MohaA just those idiotsbully dont stop sending messages to me.

i have took already contact to youtube's moderators.

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

you telling your mommy....hahahahaha...fucking idiot

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

a grade 1 girl with no arms would kick your gay, fat jumpsuit wearing ass....lol

[MrJuha82]

@yourtearsmakemelaugh What a kind of person you are outside of the computer??

I think you are similar one guy for sure.

A human shows his stupidity in the computer too like in real life.

[yourtearsmakemelaugh]

a cocksucker shows his faggotry with his jumpsuit....lol

[JerOutlaw]

jesus those linesmen were TERRIBLE

[Bocephitus]

Why is it that every fight video I see the refs allow them to fight but the two wings fights they weren't allowed to?

[morbidangelofdeath1]

on average how much does those pads weight they carry?

[detriotrdwings]

@morbidangelofdeath1 not that much

[morbidangelofdeath1]

@detriotrdwings k i nkow the goalies weight they say about 20 plus pounds.

[hunkatiel]

Watch Ericsson vs Brule, these two linesman don't know what they're doing.

[IJustWatchEm71]

Stupid refs!  Don't they know that they should just let 'em finish?

[PokeMagmortar14]

preety amazing