SCAM ALERT!! Speed Trap Red Light Camera RIPOFF.

[fawkUtube]

I think i went threw one of these today, it wont bother me, i always knew Id make the news one day .... gonna zip over to Taylor Rental and rent me one of them big gas powered concrete/steel saws and work my magic ridding our streets of these anti-constitution invasions of privacy... not to mention our tax dollars pays for the streets and we dont want your god damn government paws on them.

[mortician54]

YOUR A 100% CORRECT ON THAT ONE!! GREAT CALL THANKS!

[rodneyroadkill]

And where are we today more cameras than ever in Melbourne Victoria,road toll the same as last year.The current state government branded the cameras a rort in opposition now they too are drunk on the revenue and installing more than ever I

vote against every government that supports these scameras.Truth is without this revenue Victoria Australia would be further down the S bend financially due to weak leadership and governments with no direction When will we ever get honest strong leadership?

[coeffishant]

The NWO Plan to Chip us all after they have taken every cent off us the, then remove the Age Pension by switching us off from existence Follow the Money its all going to England (The Crown is Rothschilds) Insurance Scams , The Salvation Army are also Rothschilds Praying on the Frail Dying Elderly for their Home, Then Renting them out at a High Lease, Next they will Crash Gold, Silver & then the Internet Not ATMs a Full Global Crash, Invest in your own Countries Economy & Protect your Children

[Cougman1978]

yellow light must slow and stop or behind veh will hit front veh into intersect. most people speed up at yellow light.

[youtoober810]

lets give the children beebee guns. every camera will be out in a week

[Cougman1978]

@youtoober810 good idea, do you have money buy it for them? lol

[jwhiteheadcc]

@Cougman1978 Meh, sling shots and bags of ball bearings if you want to give them a challenge. Although they're making the cameras have Plexiglas or the equivalent around them... Probably why! In many cities and states, they have sling shot control laws like they do for handguns. Hilarious - what will they outlaw next? Big sticks? Rocks? (heh)

[Fkpolitics]

caution my wife and i now stop on yellow cause i dont want another ticket dont rear end me or we will sue you

[ntmd8or]

How about this.. DON"T SPEED or run red lights.. Drive like you actually care about others lives. This ME ME ME thing is killing people.I am a trucker and I drive the speed limit. I learned my lesson years ago. But I am almost always the slowest vehicle on the road. I see vehicles speed through school and construction zones as well every day.. If you feel that you have to speed to get there on time then try this instead.. Leave earlier, plan your day or trip better. Stop putting others at risk.

[jwhiteheadcc]

@ntmd8or How's a truck with a full trailer stop with a 2-second yellow unless going 15MPH in a 40?

[jwhiteheadcc]

@jwhiteheadcc Which is also illegal...

[ntmd8or]

@jwhiteheadcc Google Smith System . Learn about following distances, eye lead times, stale green lights, etc. I can usually predict when a light is going to change just by getting the big picture as I drive. The five keys of the Smith System:

Aim high in steering

Get the big picture

Keep your eyes moving

Leave yourself an out

Make sure they see you

Practice these and you will be a safer driver.

[jwhiteheadcc]

@ntmd8or Oh God, yes - especially #4 and #5!  Yellow doesn't mean "speed up to not miss it" or "slam on brakes to avoid ticket"? Who would have known? :D

[marcosrogeriofff]

where my dad mel gibson

[mortician54]

RED LIGHT CAMERAS ARE NOW BEING TURNED OFF IN MOST CITIES! THIS IS NOW PROVING THAT THEY DO CAUSE ACCIDENTS FROM NOT BEING FAIR TO THE DRIVER...WHY NO COUNTERS AT THESE LIGHTS HELPING THE DRIVER TO DETERMINE THE LIGHT CHANGE? RED CAMERA LIGHTS ARE TRULY FAULTY AND NOW HAVE BEEN PROVN TO CAUSE REAR END ACCIDENTS!! ALL CITIES NEED TO SHUT THEM OFF AND SEND THEM BACK TO ARIZONA

[jwhiteheadcc]

@mortician54 When in downtown, I use crosswalk timers to tell when it's about to turn yellow... Seems that would be the safest? Short yellow + timer?

[ntmd8or]

@mortician54 The cameras or lights do not cause accidents. Irresponsible and distracted drivers cause accidents. Following too closely( the NASCAR syndrome as I call it), Talking or texting on cell, jamming to radio or ipod, talking to passengers, surfing internet on phone or computer. These things cause accidents, not the lights or the cameras.

[xXxdaguitarfreakxXx]

they should just shoot the red light camera with a rocket launcher like they did on johnny english

[DoctorofEducation]

I told the judge that my wife was driving and the car is registered to me alone and they had to let it go without fining me in court. This is a scam like most traffic stops to make money. I've driven in a dozen different countries and the USA is the most conservative of drivers and the lamest. Look at German, they are hell on wheels with less accidents than us. It's not about speed it's about incompetent drivers. I've also seen places with super low speed signs for a giving roadway.

[will3205]

@mugtar100 simple message, but speed cameras make roads less safe. Accidents arise from 3 factors: driver, road, vehicle. Speed is just a variable, which when all other conditions are met, becomes irrelevant. Why then is driver training a joke, vehicles are not safety checked and distressed roads are +177% since '06? Look at Germany, where each factor is taken seriously. Result = no gen. Fwy speed limit, but less road toll. Road safety is too serious to leave to incompetent imbeciles.

[travisrook]

@will3205 I think it's safe to say speeding falls into the "driver" category. To say speeding doesn't cause accidents is ridiculous. If you speed on a road that has a lot of curves...guess what, you just may crash and/or cause an accident. People are just angry when they get caught breaking the law and have to pay for it.

[will3205]

@travisrook ... you may also not crash and/or cause an accident... what is the vaiable? Driver"s ability. Point proven... what do we need to do, increase driver training and ability. Does VicRoads TAC care? Not really... it is far more profitable to book drivers into complying with artificially low limits...

Hence why most European countries have far safer roads, with far higher speed limits (and/or no Federal limit as in Germany).

[ElGatoLoco698]

You know what, I got a better idea. Just pull a DC sniper on these cams. Drill a hold in your trunk. Pull up in some discreet location near the cameras.  Pop a shot off. And drive away nonchalantly,

[ElGatoLoco698]

We don't have these things in Texas. We have red light cameras though. Personally I don't think they could get away with "speed cameras". Lawyers would have a field day with the courts.

I live in Fort Worth TX and they consider red light camera tickets a civil suit. If you don't pay, they won't let you register your car. I really think these cameras are blatantly unconstitutional. You have a reasonable right to privacy in your vehicle, period.

[will3205]

These hopeless and prolifigate state governments need every dollar that they can screw out of us.

Look up "laser slip" and take your case to Court.

[mugtar100]

@will3205 if you want to spite the government then don't run red lights.

[sirHOAX]

Its already been proven that these cameras create more harm than good. They have already done studies proving that people knowing there are cameras accelerate at a much higher rate of speed to make the light. So if they knew this before implementing the technology at intersections. Then why do it in the first place? Motive is not safety? Really? Oh its MONEY RELATED. No shit, sherlock.

[mugtar100]

@sirHOAX the reason they put the red light cameras in even knowing they can cause problems is because the assume ( for some reason ) that the people are smarer then the cameras.

[sirHOAX]

In NY-Nassau County if you get a red-light ticket your hard earned money goes to Ohio. You seriously have to send your money out of state to Ohio. Wait a minute, I got the ticket here in New York. No, don't send your money to NY send it to OHIO. Why? Oh because they take their percentage for providing the service in the first place then the money trickles down to the county it happened in. Fact. This was nothing more than buddy buddy politicians shoveling contracts to their friends. Wake up.

[sirHOAX]

disclaimer: Might not work on EU style plates. :=)

[jaelamadawala]

Accidents on the roads provide opportunities to the governing bodies to conveniently boost statistics, which in turn helps them falsely justify laws that aid the flow of revenues. Speed cameras fall under this category, as they bring in hundreds of millions of dollars to governments, annually. While there are speed related fatalities, the reality might be far from what statistics may indicate, because most road accidents occur as a result of poor judgments as opposed to exceeding speed limits.

[mugtar100]

@jaelamadawala a poor judgement at 35 mph could mean a fender bender. A poor judgement at 60mph means painting the road with your blood for the next 100m.

[jwhiteheadcc]

@mugtar100 A head-on collusion at 35MPH is like hitting a underpass support at 70MPH. Even hitting a tree at 40MPH can easily kill you, especially with no seat belt.

[jwhiteheadcc]

@jaelamadawala I was personally in a wreck where the guy hit us because we were stopped at a red light that just changed to green. It was backed up and he was using _two_ cell phones. I was riding in the front of the van and got to see it lift off the ground for a couple seconds on the front wheels up close and personal. The light shouldn't have been there. Steep hill+highway+no intersection! Ute Pass in Colorado - near Santa's workshop. Light was likely a political favor.

[gsp160]

well the spit bridge mosman nsw is illegal anyway i think only one now is there.they cannot book u twice in 15 seconds as the reporter states once u your speed is checked the first and only infrigement stands. its like a cop checkin yr speed then doing it a second time then booking u twice. once yr checked speeding thats it game over.so if this has happened to u at lease u get out of any extra tickets.this is a clever governemt scam alot people would hav paid twice for one infrigment

[Mikebue11]

these pricks in charge of police think in a bad economy it is a good idea to pump the public for more money. greedy fuckin bastards.

[xilix]

Speed limits were ALWAYS about money. When was the last time you thought "man, if there wasn't a speed limit, I'd be driving 80mph down this little side street"? Yeah well me neither. People who want to speed, will speed, regardless of limits. It's COMMON fucking SENSE how fast you should be going down a certain stretch of road. And the Autobahn is one of the safest roads in the world. Accidents are hardly ever caused by excessive speed, and almost always caused by driver error.

[DR3AM3R91]

I don't understand run a red light get a ticket. Why cant they just make you attend some course about red lights if you run one?? It's all about money

[bradandnicole]

Sorry one last point i am dragging this on a bit to get my opinion across.The socialist labor government have also made the speed limit on a hell of a lot of roads very confusing for example you could be driving down one stretch of road with multible speed limits that range from say 40 klms a hour to 100 klms a hour and it is all deliberately done to catch you out and pay the money and they will keep on doing it as long as no one does anything about it and people just keep on paying the money.

[bradandnicole]

One last point 99 percent of my fines were for going only a few klms over the limit and i didnt deliberately go over the limit but before the socialist labor party got in i never had a problem with accidents or my driving record etc etc and i never got a speeding ticket,thats becuase we had a better government in with a better speed tolerance in place that was fair for most drivers on the roads.I know now that a minority of drivers who go extremely over the limit spoil it for everyone else.

[bradandnicole]

Another thing i drive for a living and had nearly 20000 dollars in fines and had to fight them for years with sheriff visits,being locked up etc etc.I finally won in court and had all my fines dismissed.Dont be mislead it is a absolute conspiracy and most people know that now,i mean if it is not revenue raising then why does the amount of fines keep on getting bigger,I remember when a fine was around 20 or 30 dollars and now they are hundreds of dollars with demerit points added in as well .

[bradandnicole]

Yeah i live in victoria australia and the speed camera issue absolutely exploded when the socialist steve bracks labor party got into government and deliberately dropped the speed tolerance from 10 percent to 3 percent or 3 klms per hour out of line with the federal and other states of which have got a 10 percent speed tolerance.Nothing has changed it has got worse over the years,they are bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars,so dont count on them stopping this when they make so much money

[Crashoverrideao]

i live in chicago and i just got 2 in one month. So i fucked climbed up and spray painted the camrea lense. FCUK U CAMREAS

[803brando]

simple fucking solution let cops give tickets.

[nolifegeeks]

setup where there made to catch people UMM DUH...

[PointOnACurve]

Maybe just, at every light where there is a camera, you stop, even if it a green light, and wait for the next green light so you won'y pay the high cost ticket! You can not chance going through an have the light turn red. Or, maybe require a countdown!

A coutdown would be just as effective, if not better, and people wouldn't be cynical!

[adamkow3166]

revenue, revenue. if it was about safety then anyone involved in a accident would be put on a advanced driving course. we have citizen's now who drove on donkeys now driving cars, what do you expect. No one uses indicators now concentrate on that (it's more dangerous)

[getplaning]

If the vast majority of citizens want these cash mach- I mean speed cameras removed, the governments should remove them. The fact that they don't makes it clear. It's the revenue.

People need to take pipe cutters to these damn things.

[jackiechan511]

Just climb onto the camera and cover it with a black garbage bag so that way it cant see anything

[fubecabr]

Actually, it's better to get a tyre and fill it with petrol and set it alight.

[mugtar100]

@jackiechan511 or don't speed?

[jwhiteheadcc]

@jackiechan511 Not that I've done it but a more subtle method I've heard of from reading online is to use something 'cloudy' that isn't as obvious as paint or a bag. Paint balls with cooking oil? :P

[sirHOAX]

Just got a $75 ticket in NYC. These things are illegal as they come. It was almost set up. If you look at the photo it just caught my vehicle doing 20miles an hour in the rain directly behind the white line. The yellow was lit for less than 2-3 seconds, it was raining! My car is a 1978 diesel it doesn't accelerate or do i want to slam on the brakes.

You have the right to destroy these cameras since they are illegal and a fscking SCAM!

DESTROY THESE CAMERAS AT WILL, ITS YOUR RIGHT.

[colinf94404]

why dont you destroy them?

[mugtar100]

@sirHOAX if you took geometry in high school you could prove that you weren't speeding but judging by your post you probably didn't finish elementary school.

[sirHOAX]

@mugtar100 coming from you that is a compliment. best wishes to your next of kin. or good luck rather. you can't share an alternate perspective. your loss no one else's gain.

Very easy to combat these cameras. You cut out a piece of LEXAN shaped like a shark-fin. You sand it with light grit sand paper, makes it non-transparent. you mount it directly center of your plate. can't see the 2nd half of the plate from an angle if the thing is proportioned correctly to the plate in question. BLOW ME!

[mugtar100]

@sirHOAX or don't speed / run red lights and you won't have a problem.

[sirHOAX]

@mugtar100 or just put a device on your plate that stops someone illegally taking photos of your vehicle and there is no problem. there is a difference you know, to someone running a red-light and some drunk running a red light. a camera can't do anything for catching someone driving drunk can it? No! real police work can do this, not photo cameras. lazy police unions are behind this. now they really can just sit around and eat donuts. trading technology for real world police work is laughable.

[mugtar100]

@sirHOAX yeah sure the cops are just lazy not horribly under funded right now like every other public service. near where I live 80 cops just got layed off. you're too fucking lazy to stop at red light but you say the cops are the lazy ones. If the cameras were illegal they would be taken down but they haven't been so they are legal.

[sirHOAX]

@mugtar100 They are illegal in Mississippi so get your facts straight. If you had any understanding how LAW works in the first place, and had any understanding of what a precedent is, then MAYBE just maybe you would know what you are talking about. Once a court of law sets a precedent. Case Law, law established by following earlier judicial decisions. Which is proof of this being illegal in the case of Mississippi determining this is in fact the case. You are clueless they are ILLEGAL.

[sirHOAX]

@mugtar100 Bad cop, No donut. Same for our government. Bunch of lackey failures, which would trade real world police work for technology. Its nothing but a failure. If you think otherwise your the idiot. The smart people will deter ppl from taking photos of your plate. I already pay through the nose in car insurance, understand? They have no right to pass judgement without an eye-witness at the scene of the so-called crime in question. Its a scam, corporate venture money maker. FACT SCAM SCAM!!

[mugtar100]

@sirHOAX trade real world police work for technology huh? too bad they also voted to remove several cameras near here as well.

JESUS CHRIST IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE THEN DON'T FUCKING RUN RED LIGHTS DIPSHIT. I drive through no less than 10 redlight cameras a day and I have never gotten a ticket from one its not hard. if you can't manage that you are too fucking stupid to drive.

[travisrook]

@sirHOAX maybe you shouldn't be speeding when it rains? the camera's don't cause accidents by the way, it's people who speed in cars when it's raining and don't want to use their brakes. just sayin

[olstar18]

@sirHOAX So you ran a red light and your blaming the camera. Congratulations you fail.

[MaxWatt1]

I got a ticket the other day. I´m in spain and the notice was in catalan. I wrote a notice in english requesting their notice be translated as I do not understand it. You can discharge any notice if you do not understand it. (See Bursting bubbles government deception) Their notice back said that they do not translate. Then I wrote another notice saying well then how can I help you? Lol.

[razoredge45]

Then take the money pay for the cameras and prove it!!! make sure every bit of revenue goes towords driver education for kids in school? and to help the devistated victoms familys to help them recover after a loss of the main provider in the home? there is nothing noble about this scam!!! if this was what it was about I could swallow that ! but not for new cop car's every 2 years and high tech gadgets and retirement after 20 years with full pay and benifits till the day they die!!!

[razoredge45]

What ever happend to no harm no fowl?they could just put a tabs in the street, and make your car's computer wont let you speed? and then we wont need the police on the road and all those cameras? and then we can get rid of ladders,forks,and anything sharp in the world,no more guns,and opinionated radio! dont ever look up-set you may have to go to the place for angry people! and get help! and no more suger! and god help you if you dont smile all the time! its coming little by little!

[ArizonaSean]

The Redflex scum have made it to America!

[sirHOAX]

Getting the photo plate blocker fsck these zionist pigs..

[dieselscience]

OPEN LETTER - EVERYONE (at least some of us) should get PORTABLE TESLA COILS (powered with a car battery) AND SPARK THESE THINGS! THE CAMERAS WILL MALFUNCTION AND/OR FAIL, THIS WILL WORK. WHEN THE Gov't looses enough money repairing them, they'll stop using them.

[supatipanno]

My arguement has been that if the Government wants to fine people at this rate, then drop the Demerit Point system, take our money which is what they want, dont take our licenses awat for petty things like this.

[startxxx]

nazi robots

[Pookatube]

BAN SPEED AND RED LIGHT CAMERAS!!!

[Tr2u1ck]

being procecuted by city via red light cameras is unconstitutional, btw

[havik82]

i think there should only be one rule of the road. Drive at your own risk. it would make it so much easier.

[baybeerayper]

Now, how would lawyers and other such types be able to send their snotty, never-work-a-day-in-their-live­s kids to Europe on holidays if we all thought like you?

[ymnkmn]

If cameras are about saving money the money generated from the tickets should go to the local hospitals to build better facilities!

[telecasterluva666]

People who DON'T do the speed limit should be the ones pulled over and booked. They cause more accidents due to the frustration of sitting behind them for mile after mile than doing a few kms over the limit would. I'm not talking about blatant stupid speeding here, but a few kms leeway wouldn't hurt. And let's don't forget that speeding is attributed to less than 4% of deaths on the road annually, even though there are more and more drivers on the road each year. It's only a huge money winner.

[dutto75man]

Revenue raising is a voluntary tax, dont speed and you dont have to pay fuckers. hahaha ''tolerances too low my fuckin ass''. I know the real tolerances and i can tell you if they're too low then drivers are more incompetant than i thought. Whats so hard about scanning your speedo evey now and then. Get off the road .

[operationnorthwoodz]

Lawyers agree, just throw Redflex robocop tickets in the trash and ignore them, for lacking personal service of process, as required in all civil lawsuits. The govt don;t get the money, Redflex Corp gets 90% to 110% of the ticket revenue. That's the definition of fascism, and the 6th Plank of the communist Manifesto. PirateNews * or / kill-robocops * html

[Partspare]

The solution is simple. The money collected should be returned equally to the citizens of the country. That way the penalty for speeding remains, but the incentive for the police to use it as 'revenue enhancement' is eliminated.

[bbaddog]

excellent report

thanks