Does cobra shot also regenerate focus like steady shot so i don't have to use steady shot anymore? I can't check right now as i don't have WoW on this computer.
Anyone who says all pets have the same base dps are fucking idiots.
I have tamed cats from stv, and tamed King Bangalash too, King Bangalash DOES do more base dps.
I have compared them myself, same abilities/talents/level. That said it is extremely hard to find a WoW DPS pet guide. All of them say that pets do the same base damage, and won't give the names of special pets that do more dps.
I was just thinking, would it be possible for a hunter to first tame an exotic pet, then reset talents and spec in e.g. Survival and still be able to use the exotic pet?
at 07:38-07:39 your hunter gains the improved steady shot aura? am I seeing that right? If yea how? O_O? if not....please help me understand what that was. O_O Thanks :)
. ...just started playing & checking things out on YT. This was far better then what I see on forums, although as with the forums I find its a year out of date & I have to wonder how things panned out.
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time to keep searching for me, would be nice to have a video comment as a update.
Quick question. How low should your Focus be before you use Cobra shot and how high should it be to use Arcane Shot? I mean, say you are at 0 Focus and use Cobra Shot. This would quickly bring you up to about 15 Focus while gaining focus during the casting of cobra shot. Now, Is it better to wait the extra 7 seconds to use Arcane Shot or should you use Cobra Shot again? And how high would your focus need to be before shooting/spamming arcane shot?
Beast Mastery hunters in LK but i thank you for the 2 trap talents next time keep up explosive trap too i tried hard for it not to be aoe but it does help
I just did a test myself and i pulled 9.6k dps im most likely less geared too ive seen the rest of your videos your good at survival marksman but beastmastery not too much... Beast Mastery relies on your pet obviously but you need to make sure he does 38% to 60% of your damage mine did 44% i used a core hound too maybe cover your pets talents as well because it will change your damage the spec is kinda what i was going for i see that you have brought back traps wich was the secret to
(Part 1) the RIGHT BM Rotation: Opening: Bestial Wrath -> KC -> Arcane Shot x4 -> Serpent Sting -> KC -> Arcane Shot x2-3 -> Fervor -> KC Rotation: KC -> Cobra Shot x2 -> Arcane Shot -> Repeat Talents: BM Talent tree is obvious. Only use 1 point in SV Tree to increase haste by 1%. Put ALL leftover talents into everything in the MM Tree except for Rapid Killing and Improved Steady Shot. Keep in mind your pet will be doing on average 45-50% of your total damage. Continue to part 2 for glyphs
@SuperSima15 aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh you meant the mob's name, i knew that one, i thought you meant his pets name, the name he put for his corehound lol
So sorry for the noob question, but how did you get your bottom bars to say what buttons you have to press to enable them.. I've been trying to figure that out for a while. Is it a special addon? Thanks in advanced
you are talking about why 2 arcane shots does more dps than a kill command, im not a good hunter but i hope its a bug. but it could be either like this cause of your pet? maybe use devilsaur or a spirit beast :D good video thanks for talent build and rotation!
I have dualspecced BM/MM and use BM when I'm solo questing and MM for dungeons & raids. BM is great for solo PvE because it makes your pet a much better tank so you can hang back and unload!
im confused should i make a beast mastery hunter or enhancement shaman? im looking for something fun to play yet powerful aswell - please help everyone thnx :)
@Skepta12 hunter its fun because you can choose the pet you want (every pet has different abilites, auras, stuns, bloodlust, slows ecc) and if u have engineering its even better, im talking about pvp not pve
I can do 12k dps with ease as beastmaster hunter in heroics with 341 IL, with 30% pet damage increase from mastery. My MM dps is 14k and survival 12.5-13k.. but those 2 are boring so i roll as BM
i hear alot of peps screaming about dps crits. How good a class is isnt all about the crits but also the speed of the abilities. Of course casters will do more dmg on each spell but hunters can be aa freaking machinegun. So its not about the crit but about the average dps and the ability to stay alive. I know several hunters in real life which are all up there in both raids and arena.
most people dont relize that when ur raiding and your a hunter THAT they DONT drop launch there immolation trap whitch is a 1k dps boost basically when im raiding with my guild thats how i hit 20k dps
I love your video's and I am leveling a hunter ATM, my death knight is currently 85 but I did some research and , in the end I made my death knight pvp and gonna make my soon to be hunter 85 pve, where do u get that core hound?
Not to nit pick, but the guys over at Elitist Jerks have done some serious number crunching and a few things you have said are dead wrong. Two that stick out the most are the prime glyph choices and the marksman talent choices. Kill Command Glyph and Kill shot glyphs are the only "required" prime glyphs for BM hunter according to their math and Go for the Throat and Sic 'em are also pretty big DPS boosts for your pet...and as BM hunters the pet IS our dps basically.
I've got a question: I've got my hunter dual specced in Survival and Beast Mastery. I know that you can only tame exotic pets like Core Hounds and Devilsaurs with BM, but lets say that I tame a Core Hound while in my BM spec, and then switch to Survival; do I lose my exotic pet, or is he just unable to be summoned while I'm Survival?
You say that the pet barely uses enough focus, but as of what I can see it uses it all. Having sic em would more or less make your pet's bite dmg go up by 120%. wouldn't it be better?
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft Steady shot is stronger as survival why would u use cobra shot as BM?. im currently BM and survival, i do about 12-13k dps with ilvl 339 as survival, and 7-8k as BM.
@Canseenox I would say 2h unless you find 2 1h weapons that equal more stats. as for pathfinding i dont find faster move speed useful in a raid. if you have a bad group then yeah it will help recover from a wipe faster but that build in the video is probably assuming you have a good raid/instance group and you wont die.
so i dont quite understand why hunters need weapons besides a bow... the whole point of a hunter is ranged dps obviously, and with your pet you almost never get attacked so whats the point? to make them look cooler...?
hey i'm a new Beast Master hunter and i just dinged 80 in time for cataclysm.My hunter is my first and oly character and i would like to learn how to better play a BM hunter so if anyone has any good hunter macros and/or keybindings could you please reply it would be greatly appreciated. :D
waste of 2 talents in improve SS, cause u fire it at the beginning of the fight and then just refreshing it... just check the video where the recount is displayed and u will see> Improve SS used 1
A tip for all u hunters out there,it could really affect your pet's dps if you turn off growl,it gets your pet boss aggro,and it could be focus spent on claw,smach,bite,or it's special ability,so if you're in a raid TURN OFF GROWL
@thejedi543 Hunters used to gem armor pen unless survival ( survival gemmed agility ) Since Armpen turned to crit it's useless, so hunters gem pure agility maybe some hit if not capped but gear should provide it.
Also as a bm hunter you dont have the imp mend pet glyph?? oh right because in the perfect world hunters pet never die and we wouldnt need the ability to heal in the first place god wtf is that about...
@rockinfire69 I do have glyph of mend pet, and it doesn't affect pets dying, it gives pets happiness without having to waste food, so I'm not sure what you're going on about.
Its such a wasted talent for the improve ice trap for the crit! why?? because most major bosses are immune to slow effects like our trap so they wont be effected. Alot of the major glyphs may seem like total trash to huntards but really the glyph of disengage is terrific for pve fights where there will be lots of movement; I would say is a no brainier to GOOD hunters.
This goes back to the old days when pet autocasting was very slow. Hunters would include /cast Bite/Rabid/whatever in every ability they had. For example their Steady Should would be replaced with:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast Bite
/cast Rabid
/cast Steady Shot
I'm not sure how much pet autocasting has improved, but I dont see any downsides in using this macro. You can also make sure it only sends those commands if your pet has a target. The conditional syntax should be at wowwiki
recount will only show the pet dps if you havent got recount to. Sync pets /w owners. the pet is showing its own dps. its not included with yours on the test. it shows that its doing 20% of dmg done on the fight not 20% of your dmg. it will mean that if you sync them. theres one way to find out. log on and do your dps. then set the option if you dps increases by the ammount your pet has done. then im right. if not then you are, ive done the test on live and im 99% sure im right.
@Neame1991 If what you're saying was true, I'd be doing almost 9k total dps. Trust, me, I'm not :) It's easily testable. Auto-attack in melee with no weapon equipped; you'll be doing no damage. Order your pet to attack, and your dps will skyrocket. You'll see that the pet damage is included in your damage automatically. Plus, as I show in the video, hover over your DPS and the tooltip tells you what % of your damage came from your pet. It was 28% in my first test.
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft i would agree with the 9k Dps. in the live test ive only spent an hour on the test dummbies but im hitting up to 11k and sustaining 9.5 at 80. pre patch i was hitting 9k and sustaining 8-8.5k in MM ofcourse. i know 85 will have be a bit at a disadvantage with lower hit than the cap. low crit and Ap intended for the class at the start. i havent played the beta but 9k would be a good estimate to me for you to be doing. ill check other hunters dps on youtube. there arnt many. =S
@Neame1991 No, it's not 9k. Your numbers are at 80 versus a raid dummy (assuming you are hitting the raid dummies) that have stats matching a level 80 raid boss. I'm hitting a raid dummy with stats matching a level 85 raid dummy. I'm not even close to hit capped, and my crit is abysmal. No, I'm not doing 9k solo against a dummy.
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft My hunters Name is Snippz on Darksorrow. EU if you want to check it out for any reasons to see its gear or something. its not any good in pve for me. i gave up on pve about 3 months ago. after i moved to Uk from Aus, im not good on acsents but i think your american so you cant come chat on my server. and test this.
the problem is with your test there when you compared the kill command and your arcane. the over all hunter dps was higher on the arcane shot run by 100 or so. but what i noticed from from your vid. the pets dmg on the first round was 500 more than the second round. in the live game you will have all pet dmg and hunter dmg. and any other classes with pets. On sync. so in actual fact when you put the 2 dps rounds together the killcommand dps was 400 Dps higher than the arcane.
@Neame1991 I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but Recount includes pet DPS in your personal DPS. That 100 dps higher is just plain 100 dps higher. I didn't consider that statistically significant (maybe if I shot the dummy for an hour it would be) but it's clear that the rotation does not lose DPS when you drop Kill Command entirely. The pet just does a smaller % of your damage.
Make sure you turn off Growl and any non-used utility pet abilities when dpsing, as the pet GCD is wasted and it may result in fewer frequency Rabid/Basic Attack casts.
@intercasso But, I wouldn't be a proper Huntard if I didn't leave Growl on while DPSing! Actually, thanks for the suggestion. When I do my next hunter vid I'll test your theory.
Does cobra shot also regenerate focus like steady shot so i don't have to use steady shot anymore? I can't check right now as i don't have WoW on this computer.
Flygonair 2 days ago
i have 7k dps at lvl 80 =/
Monenoke 1 month ago
Anyone who says all pets have the same base dps are fucking idiots.
I have tamed cats from stv, and tamed King Bangalash too, King Bangalash DOES do more base dps.
I have compared them myself, same abilities/talents/level. That said it is extremely hard to find a WoW DPS pet guide. All of them say that pets do the same base damage, and won't give the names of special pets that do more dps.
CaveofTwoLovers 1 month ago 2
@CaveofTwoLovers I love you.
fallensparrowbetch 1 week ago
Why do you keep using Cobra shot while Bestial wrath buff? It's stupid loss of dps
Barbassico 1 month ago
help i can't find my aimed shot after i logina nd login out i am lvl 70 now and i train all the skill i can.
cyabits1 1 month ago
I was just thinking, would it be possible for a hunter to first tame an exotic pet, then reset talents and spec in e.g. Survival and still be able to use the exotic pet?
rolfvdhulst 1 month ago
@rolfvdhulst no they cant if you try to call out an exotic pet with out the talent in BM it will say that its exotic and cant be summoned
SFPentertainment 1 month ago
This hunter is bad geared... :p
Hunterfoffo 1 month ago
Good buff the Kill command that will be the best.... if not i do more than 25-30k change to MM (Marksman Hunter)
Hunterfoffo 1 month ago
its KEI ME RAH! not chimerah
bacanhunter 1 month ago
i love this vdo i was going to give up on my lvl 61 hunter
MASTERxANDREW 2 months ago
Your damange suck my lvl82 mm hunter crits 30k whit chimera shot on lvl 85s whit full pvp gear
dty19 2 months ago
@dty19 post a video?
Monsterchronic 1 month ago
He does not take out Kill Command, he just doesn't mention it. But if you watch closely you can see it go on cool down.
RedemptionReloaded 2 months ago
YOU SUCK MY HUNTER DO 26 K DPS
palahunt 2 months ago
at 07:38-07:39 your hunter gains the improved steady shot aura? am I seeing that right? If yea how? O_O? if not....please help me understand what that was. O_O Thanks :)
BurgerLegacy 2 months ago
my kill command damage like 20 - 31k :P:P
kriz10and 3 months ago
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xkingx54896 3 months ago
u sound like u have somthing in ur mouth
TheMonkeyshit4 3 months ago
. ...just started playing & checking things out on YT. This was far better then what I see on forums, although as with the forums I find its a year out of date & I have to wonder how things panned out.
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time to keep searching for me, would be nice to have a video comment as a update.
TheSupersurgical 3 months ago
how do you have points in every spec
kwfsuperstar 4 months ago
@kwfsuperstar After you have put 31 points in your primary talent tree (the one you have selected) you can put points in other trees.
BBSniper48 4 months ago
Need a good talent build for Beast Mastery?
/watch?v=2bB3EsFklE8
TheEducatedStranger 5 months ago
Quick question. How low should your Focus be before you use Cobra shot and how high should it be to use Arcane Shot? I mean, say you are at 0 Focus and use Cobra Shot. This would quickly bring you up to about 15 Focus while gaining focus during the casting of cobra shot. Now, Is it better to wait the extra 7 seconds to use Arcane Shot or should you use Cobra Shot again? And how high would your focus need to be before shooting/spamming arcane shot?
SinisterComplex 5 months ago
nice vid!
Msyodamaster 6 months ago
Why would you take Kill Command out of the Rotation? As a Lvl.84 BM Hunter - my pet Crits for around 21k (granted, my tree looks quiet different)
Taking Kill Command out of a BM Hunters rotation is like taking Poisons from a Rogue.
CosmicClash 6 months ago 21
@CosmicClash I'm a level 20 BM hunter, and Kill Command is my best attack. It usually crits for 450-550.
PandaWithAShotgun 5 months ago
Beast Mastery hunters in LK but i thank you for the 2 trap talents next time keep up explosive trap too i tried hard for it not to be aoe but it does help
p2puser2000 6 months ago
I just did a test myself and i pulled 9.6k dps im most likely less geared too ive seen the rest of your videos your good at survival marksman but beastmastery not too much... Beast Mastery relies on your pet obviously but you need to make sure he does 38% to 60% of your damage mine did 44% i used a core hound too maybe cover your pets talents as well because it will change your damage the spec is kinda what i was going for i see that you have brought back traps wich was the secret to
p2puser2000 6 months ago
Think of it as kimera noe ch k the h is silent smarty :P
p2puser2000 6 months ago
Your dps is so low I usually like your videos but this one is kinda bad cus I do more dps on my 77 dk :) but keep posting videos
abergil 6 months ago
lol at chimera
Graveguard1992 7 months ago
CHImera, lol! It's said Kai-merah
xXGhostReaverXx 7 months ago 11
@xXGhostReaverXx I cringed when he said it....no offence to him, great vid, just...lol
ptkernest 3 months ago
I do more dps than that on my lvl 75 mage haha(: but it all good. I really like the BM spec. Im thinking about switching my MM hunter to it.
TheEpicVikings 7 months ago
(Part 2)
Glyphs:
PRIME: Kill Command - Arcane Shot - Kill Shot
MAJOR: Bestial Wrath - Disengage - (Raptor Strike or Trap Launcher)
MINOR: Feign Death - Aspect of the Pack - Revive Pet
GaymingWizard 7 months ago
GaymingWizard 7 months ago
Why is the dps only around 7-8k? I had almost same gear and I did like 11-12k dps on that dummy.
Elitelukio 7 months ago
mm is the best in pve
8GreenMan 7 months ago
Thanks for showing the glyphs, completely missed the kill shot glyph when i did mine =)
knightsnumber22 7 months ago
Can anyone please tell me the name of his pet ! ! ! ! ! :)
SuperSima15 8 months ago
@SuperSima15 Rex
Karabiner07 8 months ago
@Karabiner07 hahahahah its not Rex its Core hound :)
SuperSima15 8 months ago
@SuperSima15 aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh you meant the mob's name, i knew that one, i thought you meant his pets name, the name he put for his corehound lol
Karabiner07 8 months ago
@Karabiner07 hahahahaha lol :)
SuperSima15 8 months ago
Is there any way to reset pet talents ?
FrEaKzZzOuT1 8 months ago
@FrEaKzZzOuT1 pet trainer, unless they remowed it
nobady9752 8 months ago
u got an unspent pet talent xD
darkyodk 8 months ago
how much dps are u doing?and how do u m ake ur action bar like that?
darkyodk 8 months ago
BM or SURV??
alexandrosccc 8 months ago
no mana for hunters... nice ^_^
darknecromancer34 8 months ago
What is that damage/DPS addon you're using?
PandoraNYC1 9 months ago
So sorry for the noob question, but how did you get your bottom bars to say what buttons you have to press to enable them.. I've been trying to figure that out for a while. Is it a special addon? Thanks in advanced
xHarubi 9 months ago
you are talking about why 2 arcane shots does more dps than a kill command, im not a good hunter but i hope its a bug. but it could be either like this cause of your pet? maybe use devilsaur or a spirit beast :D good video thanks for talent build and rotation!
goblomatic> boulderfist
milanthebest609 9 months ago
m8. My level 82 Hunter dpses more than you.
Fadjii 9 months ago
I have dualspecced BM/MM and use BM when I'm solo questing and MM for dungeons & raids. BM is great for solo PvE because it makes your pet a much better tank so you can hang back and unload!
JarnBjorn72 9 months ago
im confused should i make a beast mastery hunter or enhancement shaman? im looking for something fun to play yet powerful aswell - please help everyone thnx :)
Skepta12 9 months ago
@Skepta12 hunters have it much more easy then meele so i would go for that and i have them both
Razzor19111 9 months ago
@Skepta12 BM is the weakest dps in hunters but ok for leveling
Mrdudesirman 9 months ago
@Skepta12 hunter its fun because you can choose the pet you want (every pet has different abilites, auras, stuns, bloodlust, slows ecc) and if u have engineering its even better, im talking about pvp not pve
ShadwHunter 9 months ago
I can do 12k dps with ease as beastmaster hunter in heroics with 341 IL, with 30% pet damage increase from mastery. My MM dps is 14k and survival 12.5-13k.. but those 2 are boring so i roll as BM
roinable 10 months ago
can i know hwick graghic card u using ? =)
aringring 10 months ago
To be honest, it's pronounced like: Kai-mee-rah
kleokof 10 months ago
It's pronounced Ki-Mirr-Ar
thestarcraftsaga 10 months ago
this is Perfect man! LOve this vid :)
TheSammyBLIVE 10 months ago
I dont even think that you know your class that good xD
How can you do 6k dps as a lvl 85 hunter ? !
Even a 85 MM hunter that spams steady shot willl get more dps then that.
xB3EX3CUTiON 10 months ago
@xB3EX3CUTiON /agreed
Mgonza2182 10 months ago
bad, hunter is bad.
Patrickdrums6732 11 months ago
i hear alot of peps screaming about dps crits. How good a class is isnt all about the crits but also the speed of the abilities. Of course casters will do more dmg on each spell but hunters can be aa freaking machinegun. So its not about the crit but about the average dps and the ability to stay alive. I know several hunters in real life which are all up there in both raids and arena.
terjeb78 11 months ago
i have a 85 druid :D i can crit 60k !!! with Item Lvl on 335 :D No buff !!! haha noob hunter :d
teamtrible 11 months ago
@teamtrible he doesn't have that item lvl on that hunter, u can tell by his hp and aimed shot could reach that crit on marksman hunter.
scottishgamer15 11 months ago
@teamtrible TAKE A LOOK ON A MM HUNTER YOU DUMB ASS
uyfjhvf 11 months ago
@uyfjhvf
Dude look! I know you think High dps is a mean sto get into my wifes pants but youre never gonna get any.
inachu 11 months ago
@inachu your wife? you mean that ugly piece of cheat? no thak you
uyfjhvf 11 months ago
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Sunvaultofthecentury 11 months ago
hunters look like alot of fun i have a 85 mage there vary fun 2 ima get a hunter or warlocks i like the pets
Takei299 11 months ago
thats weird. i could do 7.5k with 320 item level unbuffed.
SoulSocietyCinemas 11 months ago
@SoulSocietyCinemas i do 13k with 339 IL unbuffed
TheFryMan2 11 months ago
they buffed kill command... anyone know how the dps is now for beast master? good... still bad?
ranger16410 1 year ago
most people dont relize that when ur raiding and your a hunter THAT they DONT drop launch there immolation trap whitch is a 1k dps boost basically when im raiding with my guild thats how i hit 20k dps
ninjahquick 1 year ago
This is just hilarious, who the hell plays beast mastery anymore? Go survival. You crit more and your dps wont suck
33mballer 1 year ago
hunters doing rly low crits
123Slovenija 1 year ago
@123Slovenija I don't think 50-60k aimed shot crits are that low.
CyB3rM3GaMUUMI 1 year ago
you should take off corehounds special it dosent increase dps also you should use a cat.
jhjackjh 1 year ago
can you only get that pet if your a beast master?????
skinnysumo1 1 year ago
@skinnysumo1 yes
jhjackjh 1 year ago
Beast Mastery <3 <3 <3
CrashBandic00t96 1 year ago
Useless guide is useless.
meleniumz 1 year ago
cool pet :D
Bascod6 1 year ago
why be good when you can just spam arcane shot?
111imstupid111 1 year ago
Why have serpent sting as 4 if you barely use it on this video!
ZeroGravityo 1 year ago
Btw for the horde!!
brassassin117 1 year ago
I love your video's and I am leveling a hunter ATM, my death knight is currently 85 but I did some research and , in the end I made my death knight pvp and gonna make my soon to be hunter 85 pve, where do u get that core hound?
brassassin117 1 year ago
I can do 10k dps on my hunters off spec (BM for pvp)
TriggerManxL 1 year ago
tyvm
rocker12347 1 year ago
I cried when i saw point of no escape
Zehh35 1 year ago
how come all your video is around 5k dps?
lolasdtw0 1 year ago
The pet is core hound and you can find them in molten core or mount hyjal.
Gameboy561 1 year ago
great advice but its pronounced kim-era(chimera) lol-no matter ty
malakai1 1 year ago
were did you get that pet I cna you tell me
dobbyrulesforeverat 1 year ago
should have put your amory on the discription
jelloicecream 1 year ago
@jelloicecream Dude its Tgnhunter they name all their classes tgn(class)
Technomanx1 1 year ago
Not to nit pick, but the guys over at Elitist Jerks have done some serious number crunching and a few things you have said are dead wrong. Two that stick out the most are the prime glyph choices and the marksman talent choices. Kill Command Glyph and Kill shot glyphs are the only "required" prime glyphs for BM hunter according to their math and Go for the Throat and Sic 'em are also pretty big DPS boosts for your pet...and as BM hunters the pet IS our dps basically.
TPund 1 year ago
Hey dude, I love your video's and I love hunters, so, I'm wondering, which would be the most efficient dps?? :) Thanks alot :D
MrShadowBunny 1 year ago
I've got a question: I've got my hunter dual specced in Survival and Beast Mastery. I know that you can only tame exotic pets like Core Hounds and Devilsaurs with BM, but lets say that I tame a Core Hound while in my BM spec, and then switch to Survival; do I lose my exotic pet, or is he just unable to be summoned while I'm Survival?
DOOBAGE69 1 year ago
@DOOBAGE69 You wont lose it, you will only be unable to summon it so dont worry about that.
steenis1 1 year ago
what pet is that?
omgweedman 1 year ago
Point of no escape... ReaLLY fail
franklinZac 1 year ago
what addon is that he's using to see his dps?
rocospi 1 year ago
@rocospi
LOL.
pateuvasiliu 1 year ago
You can do the film where you catch this exotic pet?
Ares12354 1 year ago
"Chim-era" I couldn't help but "lol" at that. It's "Ki-Mera". xD
blackhorse1988 1 year ago
You say that the pet barely uses enough focus, but as of what I can see it uses it all. Having sic em would more or less make your pet's bite dmg go up by 120%. wouldn't it be better?
nahiag 1 year ago
i dont get , if u go BM or SV u cant use aimed shot?
MrNightcall 1 year ago
I'm always at least above 12k dps on My survival hunter with average item level 329 5k dps is really really bad
ihatecats666 1 year ago
5k dps isnt high at all. Really all the tgn guides doesnt get over 5k dps.. Pretty sad..
Linjalful 1 year ago
dak?
gasandpipe 1 year ago
BTW if you use arcane shot its lower focus then kill pet so you can hit twice by the time you can use one kill command...
MrRandomStuffs 1 year ago
weird how cata dps is worse than WoTlK :s
Iamnotslow 1 year ago 2
I cringed when he said "chimmeruh"
Cooltrolls 1 year ago 2
are you sure not using kill command of CD everytime isnt a dps loss? :O seems wrong to me
paldankt 1 year ago
@paldankt They buffed it. I wanted to do a new video testing it after the buff but I never got the chance before beta closed.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft WIAT WHY? do u use the freezing trap?
ravageone1 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft Steady shot is stronger as survival why would u use cobra shot as BM?. im currently BM and survival, i do about 12-13k dps with ilvl 339 as survival, and 7-8k as BM.
olfan92 1 year ago
@olfan92 steady shot is horrible for survival...
IDKwutName 1 year ago
@IDKwutName sorry xD i ment steady shot is stronger as BM, Cobra is best for surv ;)
olfan92 1 year ago
Explain to me again why its good to keep your frost traps up????
Jpman1001 1 year ago
why is pathfinding not useful and should a bm hunter use dual wield or or 2-hand?
Canseenox 1 year ago
@Canseenox I would say 2h unless you find 2 1h weapons that equal more stats. as for pathfinding i dont find faster move speed useful in a raid. if you have a bad group then yeah it will help recover from a wipe faster but that build in the video is probably assuming you have a good raid/instance group and you wont die.
mth31216 1 year ago
why is pathfinding not useful?
Canseenox 1 year ago
Some of these comments made by folks really put into perspective why people call our class "huntards." /facepalm.
ALFies20 1 year ago
so i dont quite understand why hunters need weapons besides a bow... the whole point of a hunter is ranged dps obviously, and with your pet you almost never get attacked so whats the point? to make them look cooler...?
Canseenox 1 year ago
@Canseenox there is no point in actually using them, but i kinda figured it would be common sense that melee weapons mean extra stats?
mth31216 1 year ago
@mth31216 lol ur right
Canseenox 1 year ago
@Canseenox well, then why warriors, rogues etc.. can equip bows then? its the same as hunters, just for the extra haste, crit...
mohsenj4 1 year ago
hey i'm a new Beast Master hunter and i just dinged 80 in time for cataclysm.My hunter is my first and oly character and i would like to learn how to better play a BM hunter so if anyone has any good hunter macros and/or keybindings could you please reply it would be greatly appreciated. :D
canadienbackbacon 1 year ago
thumbs up if you think blizz should implement racial themed quivers...it's sad they disappeared visually.
atweedz 1 year ago
what about aspect of the fox is that pretty much for pvp? and how is bm hunters in raiding
matthewjc85 1 year ago
waste of 2 talents in improve SS, cause u fire it at the beginning of the fight and then just refreshing it... just check the video where the recount is displayed and u will see> Improve SS used 1
jaris30 1 year ago
@jaris30 This video is on beta, not on live. On beta, Improved Serpent Sting adds 10% crit to the periodic damage.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft It still does increase your crit by 10%. Tho is it worth it not speccing into Sic' Em!
Wizduder 1 year ago
A tip for all u hunters out there,it could really affect your pet's dps if you turn off growl,it gets your pet boss aggro,and it could be focus spent on claw,smach,bite,or it's special ability,so if you're in a raid TURN OFF GROWL
killerwowmaster 1 year ago
@killerwowmaster Growl does not cost focus. Yeah, you should turn it off, but not because it affects DPS.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago 9
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft
sorry for posting here, i don't know where to post new comments
what is the name of the damage meter add on you are using
Kilanon 1 year ago
@Kilanon That's called "Recount"
TheGuildExecution 1 year ago
how should a BM hunter gem?
thejedi543 1 year ago
@thejedi543 Hunters used to gem armor pen unless survival ( survival gemmed agility ) Since Armpen turned to crit it's useless, so hunters gem pure agility maybe some hit if not capped but gear should provide it.
TheGuildExecution 1 year ago
If your pet isn't using his focus, should you try macroing his focus dump to certain attacks so that he is always using it when it's useful/avaiable
ArsArma 1 year ago
Also as a bm hunter you dont have the imp mend pet glyph?? oh right because in the perfect world hunters pet never die and we wouldnt need the ability to heal in the first place god wtf is that about...
rockinfire69 1 year ago
@rockinfire69 I do have glyph of mend pet, and it doesn't affect pets dying, it gives pets happiness without having to waste food, so I'm not sure what you're going on about.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago 4
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft was actually talking about the major glyph sorry for the confusion.
rockinfire69 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft Not anymore :/
Mgonza2182 10 months ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft It dont matter now ;)
MrReavi 10 months ago
Its such a wasted talent for the improve ice trap for the crit! why?? because most major bosses are immune to slow effects like our trap so they wont be effected. Alot of the major glyphs may seem like total trash to huntards but really the glyph of disengage is terrific for pve fights where there will be lots of movement; I would say is a no brainier to GOOD hunters.
rockinfire69 1 year ago
How do I get the Ui to minimize, the original wow ui is just like this but more profecient?
MrTubbymunkins 1 year ago
This may be descent for Raiding, dunno about that since I don`t raid much, but for PVP it leaves much to be desired...
mcbrite 1 year ago
PS: Love your videos, keep em coming!
intercasso 1 year ago
Another tip:
This goes back to the old days when pet autocasting was very slow. Hunters would include /cast Bite/Rabid/whatever in every ability they had. For example their Steady Should would be replaced with:
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast Bite
/cast Rabid
/cast Steady Shot
I'm not sure how much pet autocasting has improved, but I dont see any downsides in using this macro. You can also make sure it only sends those commands if your pet has a target. The conditional syntax should be at wowwiki
intercasso 1 year ago
Chimera is pronounced ka-eye-mare-ah -- ki-mar-a
greedlusthate 1 year ago
recount will only show the pet dps if you havent got recount to. Sync pets /w owners. the pet is showing its own dps. its not included with yours on the test. it shows that its doing 20% of dmg done on the fight not 20% of your dmg. it will mean that if you sync them. theres one way to find out. log on and do your dps. then set the option if you dps increases by the ammount your pet has done. then im right. if not then you are, ive done the test on live and im 99% sure im right.
Neame1991 1 year ago
@Neame1991 If what you're saying was true, I'd be doing almost 9k total dps. Trust, me, I'm not :) It's easily testable. Auto-attack in melee with no weapon equipped; you'll be doing no damage. Order your pet to attack, and your dps will skyrocket. You'll see that the pet damage is included in your damage automatically. Plus, as I show in the video, hover over your DPS and the tooltip tells you what % of your damage came from your pet. It was 28% in my first test.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft i would agree with the 9k Dps. in the live test ive only spent an hour on the test dummbies but im hitting up to 11k and sustaining 9.5 at 80. pre patch i was hitting 9k and sustaining 8-8.5k in MM ofcourse. i know 85 will have be a bit at a disadvantage with lower hit than the cap. low crit and Ap intended for the class at the start. i havent played the beta but 9k would be a good estimate to me for you to be doing. ill check other hunters dps on youtube. there arnt many. =S
Neame1991 1 year ago
@Neame1991 No, it's not 9k. Your numbers are at 80 versus a raid dummy (assuming you are hitting the raid dummies) that have stats matching a level 80 raid boss. I'm hitting a raid dummy with stats matching a level 85 raid dummy. I'm not even close to hit capped, and my crit is abysmal. No, I'm not doing 9k solo against a dummy.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft My hunters Name is Snippz on Darksorrow. EU if you want to check it out for any reasons to see its gear or something. its not any good in pve for me. i gave up on pve about 3 months ago. after i moved to Uk from Aus, im not good on acsents but i think your american so you cant come chat on my server. and test this.
Neame1991 1 year ago
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Neame1991 1 year ago
the problem is with your test there when you compared the kill command and your arcane. the over all hunter dps was higher on the arcane shot run by 100 or so. but what i noticed from from your vid. the pets dmg on the first round was 500 more than the second round. in the live game you will have all pet dmg and hunter dmg. and any other classes with pets. On sync. so in actual fact when you put the 2 dps rounds together the killcommand dps was 400 Dps higher than the arcane.
Neame1991 1 year ago
@Neame1991 I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but Recount includes pet DPS in your personal DPS. That 100 dps higher is just plain 100 dps higher. I didn't consider that statistically significant (maybe if I shot the dummy for an hour it would be) but it's clear that the rotation does not lose DPS when you drop Kill Command entirely. The pet just does a smaller % of your damage.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
did they take out place holders for gear and put in the acctuall stuff???
anumbertwopencil 1 year ago
Make sure you turn off Growl and any non-used utility pet abilities when dpsing, as the pet GCD is wasted and it may result in fewer frequency Rabid/Basic Attack casts.
intercasso 1 year ago
@intercasso But, I wouldn't be a proper Huntard if I didn't leave Growl on while DPSing! Actually, thanks for the suggestion. When I do my next hunter vid I'll test your theory.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
will you make a MM vid too? (pls if you do give it your all even if you like BM more)
jackdarkraven 1 year ago