when i was younger, i might have agreed more with you. but now i'm older and i suppose, a bit more jaded, i no longer readily believe in this stuff. i'd like to THINK there may be some thing after death... but i don't think i believe as much as i used to. funny - the young - who are furthest from death - believe in life after death. the older - who are closest to death - be come less optimistic about such things. one would think it would be the other way around...
@qwyzl I think that depends on the individual really. I will admit, that being skeptical is the most logical standpoint. Not cynical -skeptical. It is very difficult to investigate "after life" type things while we are still alive. What happens when we die? We obviously can't really know until we're dead. The best evidence we have is usually from large a large similarity of personal accounts (such as NDE's), odd occurences and alleged spirit communication, etc; It is far from empirical.
@429Cage 1 thing i really want 2 know. if there's life after death, why don't the dead come & talk with their still living loved ones & good friends? sure, you hear accounts here & there of ppl who've had "visitations"; but they're not really reliable. if it's such a common thing, why aren't there more accounts by ppl across the board? why don't the dead come & visit relatives & friends? i dunno... may be when i die, & if i find my self still existing, i'll find a nice spooky place & haunt it..
@qwyzl Haha. Well, honestly the accounts of things like that are more widespread than you might think. I've talked to many people who've had paranormal experiences and many of them are just people I already knew, but never expected to have experienced something like that. And as far as why they don't just come and communicate.. Well, for one thing, we don't know how easy it is for spirits, if they exist, to communicate with the living. It could be extemely difficult.
@qwyzl In fact my friend, I've had many, many experiences.. I think that one of the factors that plays a role in this sort of thing is the openness of the individual to it. Still, it could be very difficult for spirits to communicate. Nearly everyone has dreamed of a loved one after they've died. Maybe that is a form of communication. Maybe when a person is asleep they are more in tuned to those "subtle energies". It's possible that they are open to spirit communication then.
@qwyzl And as I said, the dead do come see their relatives and friends. It is actually very, very widespread. And I find the study of crisis apparitions to be extremely interesting evidence for either survival of consciousness or telepathy. I usually adhere to the survival theory though, simply because it would be most logical according to Occams Razor.
@qwyzl You know, I was actually thinking about this topic a while back.. Basically how widespread this reported "phenomena" really is. And... When you really think about it, even though these reports are really widespread, I'd assume that many people who have experiences don't talk about them very openly. I know of several people who are like this.. I wonder how many people are scared to talk about their experiences for fear of ridicule. We really don't know how many unreported cases their are.
@429Cage i'm not saying i'm against an after life - or a return 2 the true form of life as the case may be, this life here on earth being a temporary pit stop along the way - but i never saw any ghosts, had any dreams (that i remember) or any thing like that. when i was a kid, i used 2 have sensations; some times i thought i saw things out of the corner of my eyes; or if my eyes were closed, i thought i saw shadows through them some how. may be some ppl just out grow the ability 2 see things.
@qwyzl That is a theory and it's one that makes sense.. I think kids are very susceptible to "psychic experiences" or whatever you'd like to call them. And I know you aren't "against an afterlife". Lol. You are just open minded, but skeptical.. That is the smartest way to be. And some people never do see ghosts. But I'd say over half the population has had experiences that might be considered "paranormal". I'd estimate that over half of the world population has seen an apparition before.
@qwyzl In fact, I'm still quite the skeptic of every claim. But I have come to the conclusion that something that I can't explain by natural means is going on. I have also concluded that the human personality does survive death. Not through anecdotal accounts, but through personal experiences and seances I've conducted with a few friends of mine. I actually have some of those seance videos on my channel. The majority of them are on a computer that I don't have access to right now though, sadly.
@429Cage it's interesting, but a lot of science fiction writers and horror writers (around the 1800's and up) seem to believe in paranormal stuff. and they're surprisingly modern in what they write; they speak of fourth dimensions and other related stuff that people talk about today. people of the 1800's weren't really so antiquated as we more modern folk might believe. (assuming i used the word "antiquated" right"). by the way, i like your "man cave". pretty cool.
@qwyzl You're quite right. In fact, in Victorian times, many scientific advances were made. A great many Victorians, not only Victorian scientists, were brilliant. Sir Oliver Lodge, Richard Hodgson, F.W.Myers, William James, James Hyslop, and many other brilliant scientists and investigators were convinced that we survived death. And yes you did. The sad thing about my "man cave" is that a tree collapsed on it during Hurricane Irene and destroyed it! Lol.
@429Cage sorry about the destruction of your "man cave". may be you can make a nicer one - not that the other one wasn't nice. what are your views about all this "new age" "ascension" stuff and 2012? though the "new age movement" isn't really so "new". nothing new under the sun, as the saying goes. what about karma and the idea of reincarnation? i'm not sure what i believe about that, though i have my doubts about the "new age" and "ascension" and "spirit guides". just curious what you think.
@qwyzl Honestly, the New Age movement is typically full of people who believe really crazy things.. They don't use science to study the paranormal.. Instead, they typically will believe a lot of "off the wall" things without evidence to support them. The 2012 prophesy was actually a prediction of a particular star alignment that only happens every so many thousands of years. It really has nothing to do with the "end of the world". As far as reincarnation and karma, I take a balanced view.
@qwyzl I think there is quite a bit of suggestive evidence for the reality of reincarnation... But I am not convinced of it. It simply remains "possible" to me. As far as "spirit guides" go, I am not convinced that they are secondary personalities (though they could be). The other explanation for them is that they are simply unconscious, secondary personalities that present themselves as objective beings from the subconscious of the individual. In my experience, I don't know which is true.
@qwyzl In fact, it could be a combination of the two! Whenever you get into the study of the unconscious mind... Everything gets very complex. I know that the mediums I've worked with have gotten communications from alleged spirits. After ruling fraud and the like out, telepathy, super psi or genuine mediumship are the only plausible explanations for how they achieve the information they do. I think that the discarnate spirits idea is the simplest one, which fits the facts the best.
@429Cage i'm not much 4 "new age" stuff either. it's too crazy. i go with the old fashioned notion of spirits, ancestors, beings of some kind we don't under stand. but all that "higher self" & "spirit guide" stuff sounds a bit silly. & if gods really did exist, who's 2 say they're not simply beings who just like 2 mess with us? the way a 16 year old might mess with some kid just starting high school. the 16 year old may seem more advanced 2 the younger kid, but that don't make him a god.
@qwyzl Haha. Well man, I go with a more panthiestic idea of God.. If it exists, then I simply consider it to be the basis of everything (whether conscious of itself and the universe or not). Carl Sagan said that depending on our definition of God, we all believe in one. For example, if we consider God to be the sum of all the laws of physics, then we all believe in God. This is simply because we cannot deny the laws of physics exist! And yes. Those New Agers get out there.
@429Cage i believe some thing like the way you do. except i call it "life". shape less, form less, and some how it gave rise to beings in to which it some how infused bits and pieces of it self... and when we die, who knows? may be we go back to it, the way a drop of water goes back in to the ocean. or may be we retain our separate consciousnesses while being merged with "life". i hope that doesn't sound too weird.
@qwyzl I understood that perfectly actually. And what you're talking about is a complex debate among people. We need to know if some part of our consciousness survives death... And it's a very touchy subject.
@429Cage i don't under stand why it should be touchy. but then, you put two people in a room and give them eggs and bacon and they'll find a way to start an argument over the break fast food.
@qwyzl Yes indeed. And I think it's redudant also. It's touchy because so many people have convictions and beliefs (yes, even in science) that they can't agree to work together to find the real truth of the matter. Instead, they attack other peoples work and ideas -simply out of fear or bigotry.
@qwyzl They don't realize that by arguing, we don't solve any part of the issue. That's one reason why parapsychology has been so slow as establishing itself as a science. There is a lot of resistance to it, and there will be for a while. By arguing the issues till the bitter end instead of agreeing to work in unison to find the truth, despite our different opinions, we put our understandings of the evidence in a state of flux.. And it becomes very difficult to learn beyond them.
@429Cage may be some day that will change, and people will eventually be able to solve the mystery of whether consciousness goes on. i hope so. contemplating the possibility of my non existence upsets me. the universe is a vast thing. and to be come lost to it, never to be aware again... though it does seem that the possibility of consciousness existing out side the body may be there. quantum physics and all that.
@qwyzl Well, not just that. The collective evidence of apparitions, mediums, experimental psi testing, etc; all point to, at least telepathy being the cause (though, depending on the medium, they might've been frauds). If anything, quantum theory only verifies them. They don't contradict it, though you still have to interpret how it could apply in those systems of physics... Einsteins theory of relativity actually does offer a bit of support to psi phenomena.. Especially telepathy.
@qwyzl I believe in it personally.. Or at least I think that it is very possible. I've had dreams that seemed precognitive, trance experiences, I've seen my grandfather's apparition, and I have done well in psychometry experiments. And those are only the things that I can think of which have occurred to me specifically.
@429Cage i've never had experiences like that to that degree. never seen a ghost, never had trance experiences. i used to get deja vu now and again, but not as much now. and i never seem to have precognitive dreams. i used to really believe in that stuff, but never had any real experiences with it. still, i like to think it's possible. i just don't believe as much in it any more. have you done a lot of seances? i never have, but i would like to try it at least once.
@qwyzl Well, that is totally understandable. Many people don't (or at least they aren't aware of the small things that do happen). Seeing my grandfathers "spirit", if you will, really got me involved in this line of work and research. And I used to host seances a few times each month.. We had one last night, but nothing substantial happened (mainly because we didn't hold it in the seance room and the "energies" weren't right). We got automatic writing though.
@qwyzl I'll tell you what... Check out some of my other videos. I have a few seance videos uploaded... And I have one video where I talk about some of the early seances that really stand out to me. Let me know what you think and if you have any questions.
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when i was younger, i might have agreed more with you. but now i'm older and i suppose, a bit more jaded, i no longer readily believe in this stuff. i'd like to THINK there may be some thing after death... but i don't think i believe as much as i used to. funny - the young - who are furthest from death - believe in life after death. the older - who are closest to death - be come less optimistic about such things. one would think it would be the other way around...
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl I think that depends on the individual really. I will admit, that being skeptical is the most logical standpoint. Not cynical -skeptical. It is very difficult to investigate "after life" type things while we are still alive. What happens when we die? We obviously can't really know until we're dead. The best evidence we have is usually from large a large similarity of personal accounts (such as NDE's), odd occurences and alleged spirit communication, etc; It is far from empirical.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage 1 thing i really want 2 know. if there's life after death, why don't the dead come & talk with their still living loved ones & good friends? sure, you hear accounts here & there of ppl who've had "visitations"; but they're not really reliable. if it's such a common thing, why aren't there more accounts by ppl across the board? why don't the dead come & visit relatives & friends? i dunno... may be when i die, & if i find my self still existing, i'll find a nice spooky place & haunt it..
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Haha. Well, honestly the accounts of things like that are more widespread than you might think. I've talked to many people who've had paranormal experiences and many of them are just people I already knew, but never expected to have experienced something like that. And as far as why they don't just come and communicate.. Well, for one thing, we don't know how easy it is for spirits, if they exist, to communicate with the living. It could be extemely difficult.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl In fact my friend, I've had many, many experiences.. I think that one of the factors that plays a role in this sort of thing is the openness of the individual to it. Still, it could be very difficult for spirits to communicate. Nearly everyone has dreamed of a loved one after they've died. Maybe that is a form of communication. Maybe when a person is asleep they are more in tuned to those "subtle energies". It's possible that they are open to spirit communication then.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl And as I said, the dead do come see their relatives and friends. It is actually very, very widespread. And I find the study of crisis apparitions to be extremely interesting evidence for either survival of consciousness or telepathy. I usually adhere to the survival theory though, simply because it would be most logical according to Occams Razor.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl You know, I was actually thinking about this topic a while back.. Basically how widespread this reported "phenomena" really is. And... When you really think about it, even though these reports are really widespread, I'd assume that many people who have experiences don't talk about them very openly. I know of several people who are like this.. I wonder how many people are scared to talk about their experiences for fear of ridicule. We really don't know how many unreported cases their are.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage i'm not saying i'm against an after life - or a return 2 the true form of life as the case may be, this life here on earth being a temporary pit stop along the way - but i never saw any ghosts, had any dreams (that i remember) or any thing like that. when i was a kid, i used 2 have sensations; some times i thought i saw things out of the corner of my eyes; or if my eyes were closed, i thought i saw shadows through them some how. may be some ppl just out grow the ability 2 see things.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl That is a theory and it's one that makes sense.. I think kids are very susceptible to "psychic experiences" or whatever you'd like to call them. And I know you aren't "against an afterlife". Lol. You are just open minded, but skeptical.. That is the smartest way to be. And some people never do see ghosts. But I'd say over half the population has had experiences that might be considered "paranormal". I'd estimate that over half of the world population has seen an apparition before.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl In fact, I'm still quite the skeptic of every claim. But I have come to the conclusion that something that I can't explain by natural means is going on. I have also concluded that the human personality does survive death. Not through anecdotal accounts, but through personal experiences and seances I've conducted with a few friends of mine. I actually have some of those seance videos on my channel. The majority of them are on a computer that I don't have access to right now though, sadly.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage it's interesting, but a lot of science fiction writers and horror writers (around the 1800's and up) seem to believe in paranormal stuff. and they're surprisingly modern in what they write; they speak of fourth dimensions and other related stuff that people talk about today. people of the 1800's weren't really so antiquated as we more modern folk might believe. (assuming i used the word "antiquated" right"). by the way, i like your "man cave". pretty cool.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl You're quite right. In fact, in Victorian times, many scientific advances were made. A great many Victorians, not only Victorian scientists, were brilliant. Sir Oliver Lodge, Richard Hodgson, F.W.Myers, William James, James Hyslop, and many other brilliant scientists and investigators were convinced that we survived death. And yes you did. The sad thing about my "man cave" is that a tree collapsed on it during Hurricane Irene and destroyed it! Lol.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage sorry about the destruction of your "man cave". may be you can make a nicer one - not that the other one wasn't nice. what are your views about all this "new age" "ascension" stuff and 2012? though the "new age movement" isn't really so "new". nothing new under the sun, as the saying goes. what about karma and the idea of reincarnation? i'm not sure what i believe about that, though i have my doubts about the "new age" and "ascension" and "spirit guides". just curious what you think.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Honestly, the New Age movement is typically full of people who believe really crazy things.. They don't use science to study the paranormal.. Instead, they typically will believe a lot of "off the wall" things without evidence to support them. The 2012 prophesy was actually a prediction of a particular star alignment that only happens every so many thousands of years. It really has nothing to do with the "end of the world". As far as reincarnation and karma, I take a balanced view.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl I think there is quite a bit of suggestive evidence for the reality of reincarnation... But I am not convinced of it. It simply remains "possible" to me. As far as "spirit guides" go, I am not convinced that they are secondary personalities (though they could be). The other explanation for them is that they are simply unconscious, secondary personalities that present themselves as objective beings from the subconscious of the individual. In my experience, I don't know which is true.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl In fact, it could be a combination of the two! Whenever you get into the study of the unconscious mind... Everything gets very complex. I know that the mediums I've worked with have gotten communications from alleged spirits. After ruling fraud and the like out, telepathy, super psi or genuine mediumship are the only plausible explanations for how they achieve the information they do. I think that the discarnate spirits idea is the simplest one, which fits the facts the best.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage i'm not much 4 "new age" stuff either. it's too crazy. i go with the old fashioned notion of spirits, ancestors, beings of some kind we don't under stand. but all that "higher self" & "spirit guide" stuff sounds a bit silly. & if gods really did exist, who's 2 say they're not simply beings who just like 2 mess with us? the way a 16 year old might mess with some kid just starting high school. the 16 year old may seem more advanced 2 the younger kid, but that don't make him a god.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Haha. Well man, I go with a more panthiestic idea of God.. If it exists, then I simply consider it to be the basis of everything (whether conscious of itself and the universe or not). Carl Sagan said that depending on our definition of God, we all believe in one. For example, if we consider God to be the sum of all the laws of physics, then we all believe in God. This is simply because we cannot deny the laws of physics exist! And yes. Those New Agers get out there.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage i believe some thing like the way you do. except i call it "life". shape less, form less, and some how it gave rise to beings in to which it some how infused bits and pieces of it self... and when we die, who knows? may be we go back to it, the way a drop of water goes back in to the ocean. or may be we retain our separate consciousnesses while being merged with "life". i hope that doesn't sound too weird.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl I understood that perfectly actually. And what you're talking about is a complex debate among people. We need to know if some part of our consciousness survives death... And it's a very touchy subject.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage i don't under stand why it should be touchy. but then, you put two people in a room and give them eggs and bacon and they'll find a way to start an argument over the break fast food.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Yes indeed. And I think it's redudant also. It's touchy because so many people have convictions and beliefs (yes, even in science) that they can't agree to work together to find the real truth of the matter. Instead, they attack other peoples work and ideas -simply out of fear or bigotry.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl They don't realize that by arguing, we don't solve any part of the issue. That's one reason why parapsychology has been so slow as establishing itself as a science. There is a lot of resistance to it, and there will be for a while. By arguing the issues till the bitter end instead of agreeing to work in unison to find the truth, despite our different opinions, we put our understandings of the evidence in a state of flux.. And it becomes very difficult to learn beyond them.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage may be some day that will change, and people will eventually be able to solve the mystery of whether consciousness goes on. i hope so. contemplating the possibility of my non existence upsets me. the universe is a vast thing. and to be come lost to it, never to be aware again... though it does seem that the possibility of consciousness existing out side the body may be there. quantum physics and all that.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Well, not just that. The collective evidence of apparitions, mediums, experimental psi testing, etc; all point to, at least telepathy being the cause (though, depending on the medium, they might've been frauds). If anything, quantum theory only verifies them. They don't contradict it, though you still have to interpret how it could apply in those systems of physics... Einsteins theory of relativity actually does offer a bit of support to psi phenomena.. Especially telepathy.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage do you believe in astral projection? and have you ever had any kind of esp experiences your self?
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl I believe in it personally.. Or at least I think that it is very possible. I've had dreams that seemed precognitive, trance experiences, I've seen my grandfather's apparition, and I have done well in psychometry experiments. And those are only the things that I can think of which have occurred to me specifically.
429Cage 3 months ago
@429Cage i've never had experiences like that to that degree. never seen a ghost, never had trance experiences. i used to get deja vu now and again, but not as much now. and i never seem to have precognitive dreams. i used to really believe in that stuff, but never had any real experiences with it. still, i like to think it's possible. i just don't believe as much in it any more. have you done a lot of seances? i never have, but i would like to try it at least once.
qwyzl 3 months ago
@qwyzl Well, that is totally understandable. Many people don't (or at least they aren't aware of the small things that do happen). Seeing my grandfathers "spirit", if you will, really got me involved in this line of work and research. And I used to host seances a few times each month.. We had one last night, but nothing substantial happened (mainly because we didn't hold it in the seance room and the "energies" weren't right). We got automatic writing though.
429Cage 3 months ago
@qwyzl I'll tell you what... Check out some of my other videos. I have a few seance videos uploaded... And I have one video where I talk about some of the early seances that really stand out to me. Let me know what you think and if you have any questions.
429Cage 3 months ago