Ive just found the books of enoch online along with the book of jubilees and some books entitled the suppressed gospels ,about 9 in total .the book that led me to them is called the missing peices of the bible ,and it talks about the Bible being edited and cut in the 4th century by the emporor at the time ,and also churches took books out of the Bible,I think that its important to look into the books that were edited out ,just to see what they say .
Personally I'm here to bring scripture up to the 21st century. The fall was a vibrational shift that put mankind in a frozen molecular structured world.. The true world has no restrictions and creation is instantaneous. Christ attempted to show mankind that by this statement: "These things I have done you shall do but greater things." So what has mankind done but cause chaos... When is man going to lay their hands on the sick instead of laying their hands on a gun trigger?
Yeshua said to the rich man in the guff, that he gave Moses and the prophets. Yeshua did not specify which prophets, he said prophets. Yes, I believe the book of Enoch should be in the bible. The ethiopian bible has the book included. Do you think that they are being told lies or false doctrine? No, man deemed Enoch to be a fairy tale, unworthy to read. Ask God what he thinks.
In relation to the terms "young earth" and "old earth" creation paradigms,
I suggest all take a step back and realize this;
Adam(created) was made as an ADULT(old), AND YET, he only existed ONE DAY(young).
All creation was done the SAME WAY, the EARTH while being OLD in appearance, is YOUNG in existance(6000, not 8).
To YAH a day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day. We are nearing the 7TH DAY of Messiah in His Kingdom. The 7th day didnt have a "evening and morning"
@redsox141978 The earth is not 6000 years mankind from the creation of Adam is. In the beginning the earth was void & without form according to the Bible. This means that earth was in existence but was in ruins from either the Ice age or one of the previous times earth was destroyed. Also. Yah said let us create man in our image & likeness. This could also point out to the existence of cave men who were of a different appearance to modern-day man after Adam. Research & d truth will be revealed!
@SimpleK1987 Incorrect, all creation happened within 6 days. The light from the stars was made to already be shining on the earth. The earth can be as old as the religion of science wants to proclaim, the fact is it has only existed 6000 years.
@redsox141978 I've made a couple of videos explaining that the Hebrew word "yom" that is translated into the english word day has several meanings. Simply do a concordance search for the word DAY and you will find the various definitions.
Genesis includes only a readers digest version of the story of creation. You, unfortunately, have bought into the lie that the bible includes ALL of God's word.
@Redsox Pt 2 The bible is a historical and prophetic account of the last 8,000 yrs mankinds existence on this planet as we know it. Six thousand of those 8,000 yrs have passed, with somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 yrs left.
We are at the end of the 6th day, which ends with the great tribulation and Christ's 2nd coming. The 7th day is a 1,000 yrs of peace, ending with the final war between good and evil. The 8th day will see a new earth and heaven created.
@Redsox Pt 3 The Hebrews understood that the word yom did not represent 6 literal 24 hour periods. The word day is used to explain the 8 days of prophecy for mankind, in addition to the importance of keeping the sabbath.
It is important to understand a bit about ancient Hebrew culture and language when interpreting scripture. And it is equally important to have ALL of God's word.
The earth being billions of years old is not in conflict with scripture.
@redsox141978 As you can see b4 i cleared up what i said, someone already did. @TrustinJC. I am aware of all the false being thought by scientists & christian leader world wide. I am aware of all the pagan practices in Christianity & the true name of God (Yahuah,Yahuwah) and his son Jesus (Yahushua, Yahusha, Yeshua) But the theory of earth being billions i believe could be true cuz it doesn't go against scripture. But believe nothing you were thought in this world. Research & Reproof!!!
I have added this vidoe series to my favourites, its very well presented despite the "extreme wish" the book of Enoch was included in Inspired Tanakh. It wasnt.
Its always been midrash and history, neither of which makes qualifed as Inspired from YAH, and what He intended us to have.
Should we take heed, and read these Historical writings? Sure, they give a lot of info and perspective, However, they are NOT needed for Justifying our FAITH which YAH gave us, and the Gospels themselves declare that more writings of Messiah may have been done, or could have been done, and there wouldnt be enough paper in the world to put them on. Just because we find writings that support other scriptures, does not make them inspired in TOTALITY.
Does the books of Enoch, Macabees, Jasper, etc.... carry good info? OH, you bet ya.
Are the entire writings TRUTH and INSPIRED.? Not by a long shot, nor should they be. The Ruach HaKodesh(Holy Spirit) has given us the GOOD NEWS and accompanying writings necessary to DECLARE YAH's Salvation in Yahu'shua, the Son of the Living YAH.
Jasper in the very first chapter refers to SNOW AND ICE, before the flood.
W R O N G. And its about the body of ENOCH. The water canopy covered the earth before.
2Pe 3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 2Pe 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Here wee see without any help of a anti-semitic council whats inspired.
The APOCHRYPHAL books have always been considered HISTORY, ORAL TRADITION AND FANTASY, in respects to INSPIRATION, and I am talking in the eys of the Zekanim(elders) in the days of Messiah, and BEFORE. The writings of the Kings, the writing of the WARS OF YAH, they were NEVER Inspired in TOTALITY. What I dont need, is to have the PAGAN CATHOLICS and her REBELIIOUS DAUGHTER protestants tell me whats inspired, cause Peter referenced Pauls writings inspired WAY before they did.
The Torah, or as the pagans reference "pentateuch", is clearly , and has always been 5, THATS RIGHT, 5 books. Genesis/Beresheit may indeed, be a OUTLINE of the history of the events from Adam to Joseph, but this OUTLINE(Genesis) mentions by name, the book of Adam, in genesis 5, but YAH for some reason DIDNT WRITE WITH HIS OWN FINGER(found in Exodus) the ENTIRE book of Adam, and made it part of "books of Moses", which Messiah Himself references in Luke 24, the Tanakh(Moses,prophets,psalms)
All the writings of Messiah's day were on individual scrolls, like the ones found in the caves. They were kept in "the ark" of the synagogues and assemblies. Yahu'shau reads from Isaiah 61 in one of the Gospel accounts.
The 1611 KJV, which was the 3RD translation into english, and a politically inspired one I might add, giving he gave 15 rules of translations to his translators, had the APOCHRYPHA, and yes that is the CORRECT term, not deutero-canonical, IN THE MIDDLE of the testaments.
Sorry, "salvation/justification" is NOT, i repeat, NOT at stake based on "assumed"
misplacings of writings/books. Is it not enough, that YAH decided the Son Yahu'shua to purchase us, and Redeem us from the fallen sin nature? We need to "add more writings" to SAVE US?
There are 11 scriptures about Enoch and he was very important to God and before their was the Old Testament they read the Bible of Enoch. He was an Ethiopian Jew and since he was loved by God why wouldn't he be in the canon? Because man decided this" . There is a lot that is not in the bible
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
If you really wont to know the truth, go to ETHIOPIA. Don’t west your time with ignorant people. Every thing start from ETHIOPIA, Every ignorant white people know that.
I just love the "paradox" type of Bible questions. Where there seems 2 be no answer in the Bible for (being the Bible interprets itself)."Thou shalt not kill",a command both given by God,yet we find God telling man 2 kill groups of people. All in His Name to boot. Righteousness does not give itself a pass, does it? How about that deluge?Hmmm! Many more like this. I think the BoE will just make the knot tighter. I knowHe is sovereign. He is God & does whatever he wishes. SIGH,what an excuse too
@fanof2cards Also, to add my 2 cents: God wiped that all out for a better reason, than for His entertainment. He meant us to not repeat history and go down HIs intended path. Alas, man still intends to still go down the wide road, doesn't he? I have a different hope in me, that make all that the BoE a little more than a passing fancy. It's "old" news and doesn't "more" to my life now. The Bible, Now that is most expansive, I am finding out.
Do not fall into this lie that there is a book of the True Bible called "Enoch". Why is there not any writings from Enoch? Well Enoch was one of the ancestors of Noah mentioned in Genesis chapter 5. He is also the first one ever that God Raptured. He will most likely be one of the two prophets that prophesy in Revelation. When Noah came along we had the food, and God destroyed EVERYTHING! So no book written by Enoch would have even survived. Besides Moses wrote the first of the Bible.
Enoch passed his writings onto his sons who passed them on just as every other scroll ever written was passed onto succesive generations. Noah would have had copies.
The two witnesses will far more likely be Elija and Moses, as the feats of the two witnesses prophecised in Revelations match what Moses and Elija did.
Don't be fooled into believing the bible contains "all" of God's word.
Of course, you'd have to be a Young-Earth Creationist to accept that passing on of the book. But for me, as an Old-Earth Creationist, Enoch lived 40,000+ years ago and thus could not have written a book.
With that in mind, I believe the book to be of divine inspiration, written (or copied) by Moshe(Moses) along with Job.
hmm. perhaps you should head over to reasons . org to see what I am talking about.
As I place Adam and Eve around 52,000 years ago. because there is blatant evidence of humans (with music and clothing) at that exact time, with no link to the prior time. Disproving evolution wholesale.
@TrustinJC What a false statement. Noah took nothing but what he needed. As in, water, food, clothing, and the animals. Just read the Bible God has allowed us to have, the 66 book Cannon.
@TrustinJC All that is necessary for me. The rest, God, vua the Holy Spirit, will supply the rest. I do not trust the arm of flesh. Been down the road of mind control and man taking spiritual control of other men. I trust the spirit in everything. I have a one on one connection with the Creator, God, and all that He is. Even that is much to behold for one soul on a dying world.
@ArmorOfGodMinistries True comment brother. Dont let trustinjc lie. He also preaches against once saved always saved because he thinks christians who believe osas believe they can just sin all they want which is a lie. No one who is of God wants to sin. And I told him "you show me someone who believes this and i will show you someone that is not saved". He does not understand salvation but proclaims the book of enoch is inspired.
Well I preach against OSAS. I teach Perseverance Of The Saints. This book of Enoch is nothing more then false Jewish or Catholic writings just like the Sea Scrolls.
@ArmorOfGodMinistries YOU are RIGHT and WHOSOEVER corrupts my Father's WORD which IS ONLY the BIBLE, may the Lord Jesus Christ have MERCY for the corruption of His CHILDREN. God Bless you for STANDING for TRUTH. And to YOU Lavern, God HELP you Lavern..
@Queenyinthehouse God has helped me. He has removed the scales from my eyes. I only wish you would allow Him to do the same with you. But you reject the Holy Ghost. You prefer the traditions and teachings of man to that of God. you reject God's Holy Word because you do not recognize the voice of God. You allow demons and evil spirits to oppress you and enslave. The demons and evil spirits are using you to attack God's word. It is time to repent and ask God to deliver you from the evil one.
@ArmorOfGodMinistries I have studied this and i agree ! It was brought to me as i read the book of Genesis over and over from the Holy Spirit to study the book of Enoch. I started to wonder why Enoch is not mention more then he was since God loved him? Enoch was the great grandfather of Noah and The bible was the book of Enoch in those times. Man decided that it was not canonical and not God. I don't think it was divine to leave it out ., otherwise our attention wouldn't be brought to it.
As most people think it will be two prophets returning, but in truth it will be Enoch returning for a second time and will be referred to as the "Two Witness Prophet." He will be born not appear on Earth and will hail from Phila. Pa. and is the prophet spoken of in the Book of Revelation who presides from the Church of Phila.
HIs mission is to open up the scroll spoken of in Rev. 10 and 11 and prepare Earth for the shift. (caught up Rapture) As stated "he must return to prophesie once again!"
i dont know much about the bible but i believe the book of Enoch should be included.Also its good to see a person on here whose open to other peoples opinions.
@cahoonu Sirry, but I think there are very good reasons to keep it on the periphery during these final moments in History. Not to say looking on it and gleening anything from it. As far spiritual matters, well, I can see why it didn't stack up to the cannonizers, not the original Apostles. Again, not that it is devoid of any particular use. Shouldn't be burned.
Hi TrustinJC ! You are one of the few Christians on youtube you actually put God the first priority, so I really admire that. But I have to disagree with you on the book of Enoch, eventhought it is quoted in Jude's letter (Jesus' teaching not convincing since all of it come from the torah) + Enoch like Job (both should not be cannonized in my view) why their story are not in Genesis if they took place in Genesis ??? Like the book of Jubilees both were man made most biblical scholars would agree!
Amen brother, I agree it should have been added. It actually helps clear up why after cain kills abel and there are only 3 alive Adam, Eve and cain,,God feels its necessary to put a mark on cain before sending him away from the only other 2 people in the world so nobody will kill him.
Also cain leaves the only woman in the world and marries and has children. I think there were two creations and the Bible backs it if your not brainwashed by the church. It also backs this Books importants. TY
Moses is mentioned 79 times in the New Testament, David is mentioned 58 times (Psalms is the most referenced book in the New Testament by far), and Isaiah is mentioned 22 times (all of which are quotes from Isaiah). Enoch is only mentioned 3 times and there is only 1 direct quote. (once in the genealogy of Jesus and again in Hebrews) Greek Pagan poetry is directly quoted more often than Enoch. I don't think it was as important to the NT writers or they would have mentioned it more.
@ Trustin JC It is not a sin to return evil for evil, it is a right that God gave us which make perfect sense. Jesus do not go against the OT eye for an eye but instead we do better if you don't return evil for evil, of coarse it depends on what kind of evil has been committed, just as Paul states in his letter that someone who remains single and devote his whole life to God will do better than someone who marries, but both do not sin if you marry or don't marry...
@TrustinJC I have studied this and i agree ! It was brought to me as i read the book of Genesis over and over from the Holy Spirit to study the book of Enoch. I started to wonder why Enoch is not mention more then he was since God loved him? Enoch was the great grandfather of Noah and The bible was the book of Enoch in those times. Man decided that it was not canonical and not God. I don't think it was divine to leave it out ., otherwise our attention wouldn't be brought to it.
Your comment is not true, if you do a quick study you will find the book was part of there daily reading, and if there is a connection with the essenes at all, you will see the book of Enoch was a must.
To those who state as a fact, what is "God breathed" or "God inspired": Have you spoken to Him personally? Probably not. And neither have those who "canonized" the Bible. Your opinion, like theirs, is exactly that....an opinion. The Book of Enoch and the Book of Adam and Eve explain some things that most Christians are afraid go near, for some reason.... like for starters.....where Cain got a wife when supposedly, there were only 3 other people in the world and one of them was his Mom.
The words of the blessing with which Enoch blessed the chosen and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed.
i Agree with you Lavern, Enoch is God inspired!! Bless you for having the courage to speak out!! i believe every Christian should read the book of Enoch!! i agree its (((satan))) that does not want believers to know what is contained in there.
I believe it contains some good stuff maybe, but to base our doctrine on it seems wrong. I don't see how this book keeps us from falling into false doctrine. God bless.
Hello, Harry, read Jeremiah 17:9, the heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? I don't know that much about the book of Enoch. After I saw this video I read alot of it. To me it doesn't sound totally inspired by God. Maybe some of it was and that is why it was refered to in Jude, but it just didn't sit right in my spirit. So I think the scholars were wise to not place it with the rest of the books as a book that was breathed by God.
You need more than words in a book to Seek God.Who named God God ? There was None before to name.You Call on God with your Heart not in any name nor words from books.
What is the mouth of God ? I picked up a feather and touched my head above my eye with it. God dose not need words on paper to talk,nor even a voice of mortal mouth.Use your Haert and you will Hear the voice of God...
Brother i read the bible and any other books i can get my hands on,the book of Enoch i believe would be another truth finding book,as the bible and the koran and many others,but the Word Of God is Pure,he who hears it is Alone.
I disagree that there are "many" truth finding books.
I do believe that we must be caeful what we call inspired works and/or scripture.
I hope I'm not sounding negative towards your comments. I do agree that we need to listen to the holy spirit and seek Gods voice. For even if we do have all of Gods written word it is still possible to be decieved by satan. We do, as I believe you are suggesting, need to listen to Gods voice and the counsel of the holy spirit.
And what did you learn about Gods nature from the feather? What did you learn about sin, Gods wrath, eternal death, eternal life, satan, your nature, salvation, the cross, the two paths, and son from this feather?
Again I must apologize if I'm sounding too disagreeable. I think there is some emotional spill over from discussions I'm having with others concerning this topic on the other videos in this series and through PM's.
It's just that I don't want to give the impression that I think there are a lot of ways to God or that there are a lot of writings out there to be considered holy scripture. I believe the writings of Enoch and the Didache are the exception, and not the rule.
I know i walked into the darkness on a December night on St Andrews beach.I know i climed into a furnace in the belief its Gods will if im saved. You can read my page or leave it,i dont look for a witness.Turn a stone,split a piece of wood,im nobody but ill stay last before i will run...
Where do you draw the line. If the Book of Enoch is inspired, then why not the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas, the Apostles Creed, and many, many, many more?
You are speaking of NT writers while I am focusing on an OT writer that is referenced and quoted by the apostles and Christ. There is a huge difference.
Also, some of those you suggest were writen early enough for scholars to know that they were forgeries. The exception to the rule concerning NT writings is the Didache.
Some will get to heaven having used the catholic bible, some having used the protestants and some having never owned a bible. But the chances of someone living as God commands will vary depending on whether or not they live by all of Gods word. Today, many are missing the mark because they do not have all of His word. Satan has not only taken advantage of the situation, he is the one who orchestrated it. That will be made clear when I explain the canon process.
So, our "salvation is at stake" if we don't use the book of Enoch? We are doomed to a life of lies and deceptions without the book of Enoch? Who is denying you access to the book of Enoch. I have more than one copy. I haven't been denied access to it? This sounds rather alramist and cult-ish to me. I look forward to seeing the next video.
Most protestant denominations do not accept anything outside of the 66 books of the protestant bible. It is based on the rule of sola scriptura and the acceptance of the notion that there is no scripture to be considered divinely inspired outside of the 66 books.
And many people will not recieve salvation because they base there understanding on only part of Gods word. This makes room for deception by satan.
its been a few years since I read the book of Enoch i will have to get it out agian, but i compared it to the bible and there are some thing that do not match up
Some Brothers and Sister in Christ did a study on the Book of Enoch in StickamChat about a year ago. I wasn't able to attend, but from what I saw and heard, it was an eye opening study. I'm looking forward to yours. Thanks for doing this. :)
Im not so sure that the Book of Enoch is part of God's Holy inspired written word, but....also, I have never read it. So, I'm open to this study of it. We'll see at the end of it. :)
Only 1 Enoch is inspired and probably just the first fewbooks of it as it should be consider 5 seperate independent works brought together
ahmalala 4 months ago
Ive just found the books of enoch online along with the book of jubilees and some books entitled the suppressed gospels ,about 9 in total .the book that led me to them is called the missing peices of the bible ,and it talks about the Bible being edited and cut in the 4th century by the emporor at the time ,and also churches took books out of the Bible,I think that its important to look into the books that were edited out ,just to see what they say .
THEENGLISHGHOUL 7 months ago
Personally I'm here to bring scripture up to the 21st century. The fall was a vibrational shift that put mankind in a frozen molecular structured world.. The true world has no restrictions and creation is instantaneous. Christ attempted to show mankind that by this statement: "These things I have done you shall do but greater things." So what has mankind done but cause chaos... When is man going to lay their hands on the sick instead of laying their hands on a gun trigger?
spaceship9 11 months ago
@spaceship9 So Christ came to right the vibrational shift? Is that it?
And what caused the vibrational shift?
And how did Christ's sacrifice on the cross work to put the vibration back in tune with the universe?
TrustinJC 11 months ago
Yeshua said to the rich man in the guff, that he gave Moses and the prophets. Yeshua did not specify which prophets, he said prophets. Yes, I believe the book of Enoch should be in the bible. The ethiopian bible has the book included. Do you think that they are being told lies or false doctrine? No, man deemed Enoch to be a fairy tale, unworthy to read. Ask God what he thinks.
TheCandaceH 1 year ago
Type "book of enoch exposed" into Google and look at the first result. Do you feel Stewart makes a good case against Enoch?
rxvp9000 1 year ago
In relation to the terms "young earth" and "old earth" creation paradigms,
I suggest all take a step back and realize this;
Adam(created) was made as an ADULT(old), AND YET, he only existed ONE DAY(young).
All creation was done the SAME WAY, the EARTH while being OLD in appearance, is YOUNG in existance(6000, not 8).
To YAH a day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day. We are nearing the 7TH DAY of Messiah in His Kingdom. The 7th day didnt have a "evening and morning"
redsox141978 1 year ago
@redsox141978 The earth is not 6000 years mankind from the creation of Adam is. In the beginning the earth was void & without form according to the Bible. This means that earth was in existence but was in ruins from either the Ice age or one of the previous times earth was destroyed. Also. Yah said let us create man in our image & likeness. This could also point out to the existence of cave men who were of a different appearance to modern-day man after Adam. Research & d truth will be revealed!
SimpleK1987 9 months ago
@SimpleK1987 Incorrect, all creation happened within 6 days. The light from the stars was made to already be shining on the earth. The earth can be as old as the religion of science wants to proclaim, the fact is it has only existed 6000 years.
redsox141978 9 months ago
@redsox141978 I've made a couple of videos explaining that the Hebrew word "yom" that is translated into the english word day has several meanings. Simply do a concordance search for the word DAY and you will find the various definitions.
Genesis includes only a readers digest version of the story of creation. You, unfortunately, have bought into the lie that the bible includes ALL of God's word.
Con't
TrustinJC 9 months ago
@Redsox Pt 2 The bible is a historical and prophetic account of the last 8,000 yrs mankinds existence on this planet as we know it. Six thousand of those 8,000 yrs have passed, with somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 yrs left.
We are at the end of the 6th day, which ends with the great tribulation and Christ's 2nd coming. The 7th day is a 1,000 yrs of peace, ending with the final war between good and evil. The 8th day will see a new earth and heaven created.
con't
TrustinJC 9 months ago
@Redsox Pt 3 The Hebrews understood that the word yom did not represent 6 literal 24 hour periods. The word day is used to explain the 8 days of prophecy for mankind, in addition to the importance of keeping the sabbath.
It is important to understand a bit about ancient Hebrew culture and language when interpreting scripture. And it is equally important to have ALL of God's word.
The earth being billions of years old is not in conflict with scripture.
TrustinJC 9 months ago
@redsox141978 As you can see b4 i cleared up what i said, someone already did. @TrustinJC. I am aware of all the false being thought by scientists & christian leader world wide. I am aware of all the pagan practices in Christianity & the true name of God (Yahuah,Yahuwah) and his son Jesus (Yahushua, Yahusha, Yeshua) But the theory of earth being billions i believe could be true cuz it doesn't go against scripture. But believe nothing you were thought in this world. Research & Reproof!!!
SimpleK1987 9 months ago
I have added this vidoe series to my favourites, its very well presented despite the "extreme wish" the book of Enoch was included in Inspired Tanakh. It wasnt.
Its always been midrash and history, neither of which makes qualifed as Inspired from YAH, and what He intended us to have.
redsox141978 1 year ago
Should we take heed, and read these Historical writings? Sure, they give a lot of info and perspective, However, they are NOT needed for Justifying our FAITH which YAH gave us, and the Gospels themselves declare that more writings of Messiah may have been done, or could have been done, and there wouldnt be enough paper in the world to put them on. Just because we find writings that support other scriptures, does not make them inspired in TOTALITY.
redsox141978 1 year ago
Does the books of Enoch, Macabees, Jasper, etc.... carry good info? OH, you bet ya.
Are the entire writings TRUTH and INSPIRED.? Not by a long shot, nor should they be. The Ruach HaKodesh(Holy Spirit) has given us the GOOD NEWS and accompanying writings necessary to DECLARE YAH's Salvation in Yahu'shua, the Son of the Living YAH.
Jasper in the very first chapter refers to SNOW AND ICE, before the flood.
W R O N G. And its about the body of ENOCH. The water canopy covered the earth before.
redsox141978 1 year ago
2Pe 3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 2Pe 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Here wee see without any help of a anti-semitic council whats inspired.
redsox141978 1 year ago
The APOCHRYPHAL books have always been considered HISTORY, ORAL TRADITION AND FANTASY, in respects to INSPIRATION, and I am talking in the eys of the Zekanim(elders) in the days of Messiah, and BEFORE. The writings of the Kings, the writing of the WARS OF YAH, they were NEVER Inspired in TOTALITY. What I dont need, is to have the PAGAN CATHOLICS and her REBELIIOUS DAUGHTER protestants tell me whats inspired, cause Peter referenced Pauls writings inspired WAY before they did.
redsox141978 1 year ago
The Torah, or as the pagans reference "pentateuch", is clearly , and has always been 5, THATS RIGHT, 5 books. Genesis/Beresheit may indeed, be a OUTLINE of the history of the events from Adam to Joseph, but this OUTLINE(Genesis) mentions by name, the book of Adam, in genesis 5, but YAH for some reason DIDNT WRITE WITH HIS OWN FINGER(found in Exodus) the ENTIRE book of Adam, and made it part of "books of Moses", which Messiah Himself references in Luke 24, the Tanakh(Moses,prophets,psalms)
redsox141978 1 year ago
All the writings of Messiah's day were on individual scrolls, like the ones found in the caves. They were kept in "the ark" of the synagogues and assemblies. Yahu'shau reads from Isaiah 61 in one of the Gospel accounts.
The 1611 KJV, which was the 3RD translation into english, and a politically inspired one I might add, giving he gave 15 rules of translations to his translators, had the APOCHRYPHA, and yes that is the CORRECT term, not deutero-canonical, IN THE MIDDLE of the testaments.
redsox141978 1 year ago
Sorry, "salvation/justification" is NOT, i repeat, NOT at stake based on "assumed"
misplacings of writings/books. Is it not enough, that YAH decided the Son Yahu'shua to purchase us, and Redeem us from the fallen sin nature? We need to "add more writings" to SAVE US?
NO. Amen.
redsox141978 1 year ago
There are 11 scriptures about Enoch and he was very important to God and before their was the Old Testament they read the Bible of Enoch. He was an Ethiopian Jew and since he was loved by God why wouldn't he be in the canon? Because man decided this" . There is a lot that is not in the bible
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
hapi2bee 1 year ago
If you really wont to know the truth, go to ETHIOPIA. Don’t west your time with ignorant people. Every thing start from ETHIOPIA, Every ignorant white people know that.
masreethio 1 year ago
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rencas 1 year ago
I just love the "paradox" type of Bible questions. Where there seems 2 be no answer in the Bible for (being the Bible interprets itself)."Thou shalt not kill",a command both given by God,yet we find God telling man 2 kill groups of people. All in His Name to boot. Righteousness does not give itself a pass, does it? How about that deluge?Hmmm! Many more like this. I think the BoE will just make the knot tighter. I knowHe is sovereign. He is God & does whatever he wishes. SIGH,what an excuse too
BarJabba 1 year ago
@fanof2cards Also, to add my 2 cents: God wiped that all out for a better reason, than for His entertainment. He meant us to not repeat history and go down HIs intended path. Alas, man still intends to still go down the wide road, doesn't he? I have a different hope in me, that make all that the BoE a little more than a passing fancy. It's "old" news and doesn't "more" to my life now. The Bible, Now that is most expansive, I am finding out.
BarJabba 1 year ago
Do not fall into this lie that there is a book of the True Bible called "Enoch". Why is there not any writings from Enoch? Well Enoch was one of the ancestors of Noah mentioned in Genesis chapter 5. He is also the first one ever that God Raptured. He will most likely be one of the two prophets that prophesy in Revelation. When Noah came along we had the food, and God destroyed EVERYTHING! So no book written by Enoch would have even survived. Besides Moses wrote the first of the Bible.
ArmorOfGodMinistries 1 year ago
@ArmorOfGodMinistries
Enoch passed his writings onto his sons who passed them on just as every other scroll ever written was passed onto succesive generations. Noah would have had copies.
The two witnesses will far more likely be Elija and Moses, as the feats of the two witnesses prophecised in Revelations match what Moses and Elija did.
Don't be fooled into believing the bible contains "all" of God's word.
TrustinJC 1 year ago
@TrustinJC
Of course, you'd have to be a Young-Earth Creationist to accept that passing on of the book. But for me, as an Old-Earth Creationist, Enoch lived 40,000+ years ago and thus could not have written a book.
With that in mind, I believe the book to be of divine inspiration, written (or copied) by Moshe(Moses) along with Job.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord Not so. I've made seveal videos explaining that I'm an old earth creationist.
The bible is a historical and prophetic account of the "last" 8,000 years of creation, and not the first 6,000 as young earth creationists teach.
TrustinJC 1 year ago
@TrustinJC
hmm. perhaps you should head over to reasons . org to see what I am talking about.
As I place Adam and Eve around 52,000 years ago. because there is blatant evidence of humans (with music and clothing) at that exact time, with no link to the prior time. Disproving evolution wholesale.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@TrustinJC What a false statement. Noah took nothing but what he needed. As in, water, food, clothing, and the animals. Just read the Bible God has allowed us to have, the 66 book Cannon.
ArmorOfGodMinistries 1 year ago
@TrustinJC All that is necessary for me. The rest, God, vua the Holy Spirit, will supply the rest. I do not trust the arm of flesh. Been down the road of mind control and man taking spiritual control of other men. I trust the spirit in everything. I have a one on one connection with the Creator, God, and all that He is. Even that is much to behold for one soul on a dying world.
BarJabba 1 year ago
@ArmorOfGodMinistries True comment brother. Dont let trustinjc lie. He also preaches against once saved always saved because he thinks christians who believe osas believe they can just sin all they want which is a lie. No one who is of God wants to sin. And I told him "you show me someone who believes this and i will show you someone that is not saved". He does not understand salvation but proclaims the book of enoch is inspired.
whinda4702 1 year ago
Well I preach against OSAS. I teach Perseverance Of The Saints. This book of Enoch is nothing more then false Jewish or Catholic writings just like the Sea Scrolls.
ArmorOfGodMinistries 1 year ago
@ArmorOfGodMinistries YOU are RIGHT and WHOSOEVER corrupts my Father's WORD which IS ONLY the BIBLE, may the Lord Jesus Christ have MERCY for the corruption of His CHILDREN. God Bless you for STANDING for TRUTH. And to YOU Lavern, God HELP you Lavern..
Queenyinthehouse 1 year ago
@Queenyinthehouse God has helped me. He has removed the scales from my eyes. I only wish you would allow Him to do the same with you. But you reject the Holy Ghost. You prefer the traditions and teachings of man to that of God. you reject God's Holy Word because you do not recognize the voice of God. You allow demons and evil spirits to oppress you and enslave. The demons and evil spirits are using you to attack God's word. It is time to repent and ask God to deliver you from the evil one.
TrustinJC 1 year ago
@ArmorOfGodMinistries I have studied this and i agree ! It was brought to me as i read the book of Genesis over and over from the Holy Spirit to study the book of Enoch. I started to wonder why Enoch is not mention more then he was since God loved him? Enoch was the great grandfather of Noah and The bible was the book of Enoch in those times. Man decided that it was not canonical and not God. I don't think it was divine to leave it out ., otherwise our attention wouldn't be brought to it.
hapi2bee 1 year ago
As most people think it will be two prophets returning, but in truth it will be Enoch returning for a second time and will be referred to as the "Two Witness Prophet." He will be born not appear on Earth and will hail from Phila. Pa. and is the prophet spoken of in the Book of Revelation who presides from the Church of Phila.
HIs mission is to open up the scroll spoken of in Rev. 10 and 11 and prepare Earth for the shift. (caught up Rapture) As stated "he must return to prophesie once again!"
spaceship9 11 months ago
i dont know much about the bible but i believe the book of Enoch should be included.Also its good to see a person on here whose open to other peoples opinions.
cahoonu 1 year ago
@cahoonu Sirry, but I think there are very good reasons to keep it on the periphery during these final moments in History. Not to say looking on it and gleening anything from it. As far spiritual matters, well, I can see why it didn't stack up to the cannonizers, not the original Apostles. Again, not that it is devoid of any particular use. Shouldn't be burned.
BarJabba 1 year ago
Hi TrustinJC ! You are one of the few Christians on youtube you actually put God the first priority, so I really admire that. But I have to disagree with you on the book of Enoch, eventhought it is quoted in Jude's letter (Jesus' teaching not convincing since all of it come from the torah) + Enoch like Job (both should not be cannonized in my view) why their story are not in Genesis if they took place in Genesis ??? Like the book of Jubilees both were man made most biblical scholars would agree!
JCYTT1I3777 2 years ago
Amen brother, I agree it should have been added. It actually helps clear up why after cain kills abel and there are only 3 alive Adam, Eve and cain,,God feels its necessary to put a mark on cain before sending him away from the only other 2 people in the world so nobody will kill him.
Also cain leaves the only woman in the world and marries and has children. I think there were two creations and the Bible backs it if your not brainwashed by the church. It also backs this Books importants. TY
bobhawkins1966 2 years ago
Moses is mentioned 79 times in the New Testament, David is mentioned 58 times (Psalms is the most referenced book in the New Testament by far), and Isaiah is mentioned 22 times (all of which are quotes from Isaiah). Enoch is only mentioned 3 times and there is only 1 direct quote. (once in the genealogy of Jesus and again in Hebrews) Greek Pagan poetry is directly quoted more often than Enoch. I don't think it was as important to the NT writers or they would have mentioned it more.
fanof2cards 2 years ago
fan
The problem is that because people have not read Enoch, they do not recognize the number of times he is quoted and referenced.
Much of christs teachings come from Enoch.
Do not return evil for evil, for example. This goes against the eye for an eye in the OT but is taught by Jesus.
Do not make a vow to God but rather let your yes be yes and your no be no is seen first in Enoch and then by Christ.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
@ Trustin JC It is not a sin to return evil for evil, it is a right that God gave us which make perfect sense. Jesus do not go against the OT eye for an eye but instead we do better if you don't return evil for evil, of coarse it depends on what kind of evil has been committed, just as Paul states in his letter that someone who remains single and devote his whole life to God will do better than someone who marries, but both do not sin if you marry or don't marry...
JCYTT1I3777 2 years ago
@TrustinJC I have studied this and i agree ! It was brought to me as i read the book of Genesis over and over from the Holy Spirit to study the book of Enoch. I started to wonder why Enoch is not mention more then he was since God loved him? Enoch was the great grandfather of Noah and The bible was the book of Enoch in those times. Man decided that it was not canonical and not God. I don't think it was divine to leave it out ., otherwise our attention wouldn't be brought to it.
hapi2bee 1 year ago
Your comment is not true, if you do a quick study you will find the book was part of there daily reading, and if there is a connection with the essenes at all, you will see the book of Enoch was a must.
TheTruthseekerman 2 years ago
To those who state as a fact, what is "God breathed" or "God inspired": Have you spoken to Him personally? Probably not. And neither have those who "canonized" the Bible. Your opinion, like theirs, is exactly that....an opinion. The Book of Enoch and the Book of Adam and Eve explain some things that most Christians are afraid go near, for some reason.... like for starters.....where Cain got a wife when supposedly, there were only 3 other people in the world and one of them was his Mom.
eiriansilver 2 years ago
Qāla barakat za-Hēnōk zakama bārraka ḫirūyāna wa-ṣādḳāna 'ila halaw yikūnū baʿilata mindābē la'asaslō kʷilū 'ikūyān wa-rasīʿān
The words of the blessing with which Enoch blessed the chosen and righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed.
(1Enoch 1:1)
JESUSRULZZZAMEN 2 years ago
i Agree with you Lavern, Enoch is God inspired!! Bless you for having the courage to speak out!! i believe every Christian should read the book of Enoch!! i agree its (((satan))) that does not want believers to know what is contained in there.
JESUSRULZZZAMEN 2 years ago
Enoch is not God inspired. It is a apocrypha writing, which was rejected by the Christian Church.
anticultwatch 2 years ago
@anticultwatch It's actually in the Pseudepigrapha. But I am not sure if it is inspired or not. Sounds kinda crazy. I wanna study it though.
Pinkindian1 1 year ago
I believe it contains some good stuff maybe, but to base our doctrine on it seems wrong. I don't see how this book keeps us from falling into false doctrine. God bless.
krushingu 2 years ago
Krushingu
If you watch the series of vids to the end it will become clear.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
Hello, Harry, read Jeremiah 17:9, the heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? I don't know that much about the book of Enoch. After I saw this video I read alot of it. To me it doesn't sound totally inspired by God. Maybe some of it was and that is why it was refered to in Jude, but it just didn't sit right in my spirit. So I think the scholars were wise to not place it with the rest of the books as a book that was breathed by God.
krushingu 2 years ago
You need more than words in a book to Seek God.Who named God God ? There was None before to name.You Call on God with your Heart not in any name nor words from books.
HarryJackson1 2 years ago
Harry
Then why did Jesus say that we are to live by every word that come from the mouth of God?
TrustinJC 2 years ago
What is the mouth of God ? I picked up a feather and touched my head above my eye with it. God dose not need words on paper to talk,nor even a voice of mortal mouth.Use your Haert and you will Hear the voice of God...
HarryJackson1 2 years ago
Brother i read the bible and any other books i can get my hands on,the book of Enoch i believe would be another truth finding book,as the bible and the koran and many others,but the Word Of God is Pure,he who hears it is Alone.
God Bless. Keep up the good work.
HarryJackson1 2 years ago
Harry
I disagree that there are "many" truth finding books.
I do believe that we must be caeful what we call inspired works and/or scripture.
I hope I'm not sounding negative towards your comments. I do agree that we need to listen to the holy spirit and seek Gods voice. For even if we do have all of Gods written word it is still possible to be decieved by satan. We do, as I believe you are suggesting, need to listen to Gods voice and the counsel of the holy spirit.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
Harry
And what did you learn about Gods nature from the feather? What did you learn about sin, Gods wrath, eternal death, eternal life, satan, your nature, salvation, the cross, the two paths, and son from this feather?
Scripture tells us our heart is decietful.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
Harry
Again I must apologize if I'm sounding too disagreeable. I think there is some emotional spill over from discussions I'm having with others concerning this topic on the other videos in this series and through PM's.
It's just that I don't want to give the impression that I think there are a lot of ways to God or that there are a lot of writings out there to be considered holy scripture. I believe the writings of Enoch and the Didache are the exception, and not the rule.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
I know i walked into the darkness on a December night on St Andrews beach.I know i climed into a furnace in the belief its Gods will if im saved. You can read my page or leave it,i dont look for a witness.Turn a stone,split a piece of wood,im nobody but ill stay last before i will run...
HarryJackson1 2 years ago
Amen the Book of Enoch is a great source of information.
The Council of trent, those idiots refused to accept it, they are probably damned for denying some of God's word from the Bible.
riddick7819 2 years ago
Where do you draw the line. If the Book of Enoch is inspired, then why not the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas, the Apostles Creed, and many, many, many more?
cwfell1 2 years ago
cwfell1
You are speaking of NT writers while I am focusing on an OT writer that is referenced and quoted by the apostles and Christ. There is a huge difference.
Also, some of those you suggest were writen early enough for scholars to know that they were forgeries. The exception to the rule concerning NT writings is the Didache.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
So can I go to heave with just the 66 books of the commonly accepted bible?
cwfell1 2 years ago
Some will get to heaven having used the catholic bible, some having used the protestants and some having never owned a bible. But the chances of someone living as God commands will vary depending on whether or not they live by all of Gods word. Today, many are missing the mark because they do not have all of His word. Satan has not only taken advantage of the situation, he is the one who orchestrated it. That will be made clear when I explain the canon process.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
So, our "salvation is at stake" if we don't use the book of Enoch? We are doomed to a life of lies and deceptions without the book of Enoch? Who is denying you access to the book of Enoch. I have more than one copy. I haven't been denied access to it? This sounds rather alramist and cult-ish to me. I look forward to seeing the next video.
cwfell1 2 years ago
cwfell1:
Most protestant denominations do not accept anything outside of the 66 books of the protestant bible. It is based on the rule of sola scriptura and the acceptance of the notion that there is no scripture to be considered divinely inspired outside of the 66 books.
And many people will not recieve salvation because they base there understanding on only part of Gods word. This makes room for deception by satan.
TrustinJC 2 years ago
Good stuff TrustinJC
TellittoJesus 2 years ago
My Pastor just offered to lend this to me the other day. I think I'll take him up on it.
nexxus111 2 years ago
greets in the name of Yesu Christ,
its been a few years since I read the book of Enoch i will have to get it out agian, but i compared it to the bible and there are some thing that do not match up
resurrectionway 2 years ago
Some Brothers and Sister in Christ did a study on the Book of Enoch in StickamChat about a year ago. I wasn't able to attend, but from what I saw and heard, it was an eye opening study. I'm looking forward to yours. Thanks for doing this. :)
soulpeaceinchrist 2 years ago
Im not so sure that the Book of Enoch is part of God's Holy inspired written word, but....also, I have never read it. So, I'm open to this study of it. We'll see at the end of it. :)
God's peace and blessings to you
GodsGraceMyFreedom 2 years ago