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  • you dunce adam was killed by plastic wrapping by amanda smothering him. DUR DI DUR!

  • 1. There isn't gonna be a Saw 8, there may be one, but for now there isn't going to be therefore meaning I doubt whatever is going to be in it would have been planned from the start and 2. We clearly see Amanda kill Adam by suffocating him. There was no reason for that to be staged as no one was there to see it so it could have been left as though he died of starvation. And if they did bring him back, what would be the point? Wouldn't be that big of a deal

  • WHY IS JIGSAW SUCH AN ASS

  • well Amanda came back and killed him in saw 2

  • It is a great theory... but he is not yet in the movie Saw 8... maybe he will appear in saw 9 if there will be saw 9...

  • indeed beautiful proofs

  • That's a great theory

  • who is the dude who bashes his foot up to get out which film ?

  • @PortableGrill Dr, Gordon... he is the one who care for Jigsaw while he is still alive.. 

  • @PortableGrill That was Eric Mathews at the start of Saw 3

  • I think its very possible Adam is alive. Id be surprsied if he is alive but disapointed if he isnt. Im not entirely sure Amanda did kill Adam but im not sure. Plus if you watch the end of Saw 3d when Hoffman got caught there was two other people with Dr Gordon and its possible one of them could of been Adam. Another thing every Saw film always ends up with a fucked up twist so id say it is possible Adam is still alive. I also read there will be 10 saw films so we will find out soon hopefully. :)

  • BUTT TAPP IS BOLD YOU MORON! THAT BODY HAS HAIR!

  • in Saw 3 you see Adam getting killed by Amanda (u fuk up)

  • How can you say Amanda did not killl adam. She got a bag and wrapped it around his head :S

  • I truly don't know, I see what Amanda did, and I think that Adam gave up very soon no? Could not he make a hole in the bag with one finger? And, furthemore, the evidence what Kakiemark bring us (yes yes, evidence, the shoot in chest is mortal, the shoot in shoulder not) but Adam seem to be truly dead when Amanda did that fact, not?

    Saw movies are very accurate and detailed, are not perfect (as all movies I think), but close, and this person, Kakiemark, are thinking as a smart follower of Saw.

  • but he looked pretty dead to me

  • i just watched this because i could lol :D

  • You only said not to comment about Amanda killing Adam because you knew it would ruin your whole conspiracy theory. He's fucking dead, dumbass.

  • chain on foot= movie mistake

    bullet hole= another movie mistake

    gordons promise= empty promise

    what jigsaw says about appreciating life= monologue from earlier in the film to add dramatic effect and to display an overall message about the movie at the end of the movie... the audio was actually ripped and reused from when he was talking to amanda when she passed the reverse bear claw trap

    whole entire video= overthought and a desperate need to get a life

  • Who the fuck would design this twisted shit man

  • Hmm.. I think Adam may really survive :O

  • Just so ya'll know, that thing at the end where Kramer said that Adam was no longer ungrateful to be alive, he didn't actually say that. Earlier in the movie you hear the lil doll say the same thing to Amanda, they just threw in the sound to that. Listen in the movie when Kramer says "Game Over". It echos, because of the way the room is, so if Kramer really said that one line, why did it sound so different? 

  • Oh wow, so the people who made the Saw movies aren't so hot on the details when you only see the body for 5 seconds. They probably didn't even know they were going to get funded for a sequel when they made the first movie. There's no proof of Adam's survival. He died because of Amanda, suffocating him.

  • oh my God your right but how do you know tha there will be a saw 8

  • Why is Saw 8 confirmed...because you said so?

  • @TheCrazyplaying lionsgate has said that saw will be back eventually. they havent released a date or anything yet. michael burns said it in an interview with cnbc. saw was a big money maker for them and right now they arent bringing in much money. so well see

  • also in SAW 7 the three pigs it was gordon and 2 other people maybe he is alive

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  • all the SAW movies are great cause when you saw the first one ur like wats going to happen next!:o Then in 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th you say that why that happened

  • Well I knew Dr gordon was alive since the secound movie :) Nobody believed me untill they saw it with there own eyes however I think this is just a movie mistake, I think Adam really is dead :)

  • well i think sense the cop killed jigsaw's wife Jill that that would be the end because there would be no point in making saw 8 because no one else had a connection to the family or any other members of the saw traps plus what are the odds of him still being alive like come on people Adam is DEAD!

  • yeah but the key do free adam is lost in the beggining of the 1º movie so...mehh whatever, guess there will be no saw 8 either lol

  • you do realise they were all buried in saw V Rigg,Kerry,Matthews,and Tapp

  • @Nuclearifcation as I recall, the bathroom where Tapp died (or that general area) was never actually found, hence the reason Adam's (maybe Tapp's) corpse is still in the room. If this is true, then how could they have buried Tapp in V? Odds are, they buried an empty casket.

  • @cryoutBenehime sorry it was a memorial service not a funeral

  • its just no attetin to detail

  • dude your dumb and btw he is not coming back in saw 8. why? because there is no saw 8 saw 7 was the last get over it.

  • @Bardock41703 Ive heard "There wont be a saw (insert number)" over and over since saw 2

  • @Bardock41703 Im not entirely sure but I read in a nuts magazine there will be 10 saw films. Im not saying its definate but thats just what I saw..

  • @Bardock41703 Another Saw movie has been confirmed for Halloween 2012. 

  • @GenerationSam nope nothing has been confirmed yet, all that has been said is that there is a 'possibility' for it to return, and that return will not be at the end of this year.

  • @Bardock41703 prequels maybe?

  • @Bardock41703 you dont know that the crew said that they would definately make a saw 8 if they get an idea

  • you are stupid think that adam live

  • who cares about adam seriously he was a pussy he didnt even cut his foot off LOL

  • Indeed Adam is alive and will return in the next part of Resident Evil...

  • the guy in saw 3d the guy in 3 saws trap with girl and 2 boys the guy on the left looks like adam

  • ""Numerous errors throughout the franchise have led some fans to believe that Adam is alive, and the corpse shackled in the bathroom is not him. However, it was confirmed on the official Saw site that Adam is dead."" Your argument is invalid, you dumb fuck.

  • @VongolaThunderRing watch out guys, we're dealing with a badass over here

  • Adam died. Accept it, and move on. Dumb ass.

  • Yeah..Because a corpse that's been rotting for years may still be alive..

  • u should be a crime scene investigator. U read out the hints that no one else could see

  • but amanda killed adam right ?

  • In 2:46 he looks retarded when he throws the saw

  • IS GREAT!! AND IS FAKE? ITS MY IS REAL!!

  • maybe jigsaw was talking to the other guy ?

  • no way it was on the same foot befor making videos think and search more.

  • i did not get it

  • i do not get it

  • Amanda mata a Adam en SAW 3

  • you guys do realize that they showed amanda killing adam in one of the movies so why does any of this matter when there is irefutable evidence that he is dead?

  • @luk3mz are you stupid or something?

    Read the fuckin description.

  • @luk3mz notice how when she suffocates adam he hits his head on the toilet. that could have dazed him enough to make him stop moving, making amanda think she killed him. also, has no one questioned how the corpse in saw 2 is muscular and bald as opposed to adam who was thin and had black hair???

  • @bloodrain744 the muscular part I won't dispute. however if I remember right, there is a fair amount of time between Saws 1 and 2, probably enough time for the corpse to rot. and it is hard to tell just how muscular the corpse is, with how much it has rotted.

  • @cryoutBenehime that still leaves the factor of the corpse being bald. it isnt that far into rotting, so it should still have hair. in saw 2, zepps dead corpse still had its hair and they both "died" right around the same time, so why the lack of hair on adams corpse?? plus the chain on the wrong foot is still an unsolved mystery

  • @bloodrain744 the chain being on the wrong foot could easily be a mistake, but there is the possibility, same goes for the bullet hole. And when watching it, I actually cannot find Zepp's corpse, but I plan to pay closer attention next time I watch the movies through. I am not saying for sure that is Adam there, but either way is possible.

  • @cryoutBenehime zepps corpse is the one laying next to adams. when it flashes to zepps corpse im pretty sure you hear him go "im gonna kill your husband now" in a flashback so that will let you know when you see zepps corpse

  • @bloodrain744 Also, there is still the question of how Adam survived Amanda killing him. the description says Amanda didn't kill Adam so don't mention it, but they don't give any proof

  • @cryoutBenehime well, something fishy about that is about how when she "killed" him she left him laying on his side, but the corpse you see in saw 2 is leaning up against the wall almost as if he was propped up there

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  • @luk3mz manda mostro q adan estaba muerto q Por Ella Lo asfixiaba pero no hay evidencia del Cuerpo muerto x q no se le vi00, Gordon prometio a adan x el venir yo creo q entro Gordon Justo CUANDO Amanda intentaba matar un adan y sí he impedio cambiaron y El Cuerpo, Todos los q VIMOS la saga sabemos Que Gordon FUE auxiliado y le pusieron la ESA terribles pata asi q ya sabemos lo q sí Viene

    rousemary2012 Hace 1 Segundo.

  • i just thought saw vii is set probably months after the first. think about it there is no big space of time inbetween each movie

  • if u listen to the saw commentary the writer says , who was adam, that doctor gordon wouldnt have got 2 blocks. he was bleeding badly. so i dont think they originally invisioned Adam being saved

  • @TheAllen1105 thats saw 7 u dumbass -.-

  • @BaNaNaSaNdWiChXD hahaha ya

  • what is everyone talking about saw 8 did came out its called saw the final chapter and adam dided and gordon is alive

  • WOW!!! you really amuse me and im not being sarcastic i think you might just be right :)

  • its called a movie mistake... surely there will be a saw 8 (sadly enough), but I doubt it will be about adam..

  • Clearly you havnt seen saw 3

  • in the end where he said that to adam it was just a memory of when he was talking to amanda to give dramatic effect why he was doing this to them. tapps shirt was black the one on adam was white Tapp and Adam where my two fave characters so i hope to god your right but that is my thought

  • I was thinking, he can't be alive because how did he get out the shackel? The key went in the sink in the 1st 1

  • Adam Say's : I'm Alive , I'm Coming Saw 8 and i Kill Doctor Gordon.

  • I hope that Adam is alive <3

  • Great study :-) you'r welcome :-)

  • Hey man you make a lot of sense on saying that adam is alive im hoping there is a saw viii.

  • @slipknotmaggot666ist He makes no sense at all...

  • I thought this would be a pop up phew

  • well cant it be the other guy

  • Naw dawg, it went like this:

    "Wow, somehow, I managed to unlock the chain! But I'm supposed to play by the rules, so I'll lock it on my other leg."

    You're welcome.

  • i want to play role in saw next movie...

    please

  • Well, if he is still alive, who's the corps with the white shirt, eh?

  • @S0PHIEMCD0NNELL Tapp possibly

  • @S0PHIEMCD0NNELL pudo ser cambiado por otro muertito

  • This idea is reinforced by Jigsaw saying coldly, "Game over," as he shuts the door. So to conclude: The corpse can't be Tapp, Gordon couldn't have rescued him before we see him suffocated, and Jigsaw wouldn't have saved him because he failed his test.

    Sorry about leaving three comments, but I had too many ideas for 600 characters! :/

  • And Gordan wouldn't have been in any shape to rescue Adam by the time we see his body in Saw II; he was still being treated by Jigsaw. And even if he was, he wouldn't have let Gordon rescue him because Adam failed his test; he didn't cut off his leg like Gordon. We can tell that this is what Jigsaw intended because he left two saws in the room. So even though Adam "appreciated life" by the end of his test, Jigsaw still would've left him to die for not completing it successfully.

  • @Ncik1e5 that comment he makes at the end " some people are so ungrateful of their life, but not you..not anymore" that was referenced to amanda when she passes her reverse bear trap test.

  • Tapp doesn't die from that gunshot wound. In the Saw video game, it's revealed that Tapp is healed by Jigsaw, then placed in a trap of his own. After escaping the trap he commits suicide in his apartment. It makes no sense that the corpse is Tapp. Why would they steal Tapp's body, dress him up like Adam, then hide his body in that bathroom with his leg chained up? The set designers just made a few minor mistakes in filming the sequels. And any idiot with a camera can take photographs.

  • he is dead in one saw movie it shows that amanda sufficates him

  • That black guy doens't wear a white shirt..

    Anyway: great theorie

    (ik vind het echt goed bedacht. Ik ga het er zometeen met mijn vriend over hebben. Vind het wel interessant worden ;-) )

  • also one thing that some of you may have forgotten is that Amanda admit it to have killed Adam by suffocation. she said it was mercy killing.

  • @hgdge yes thats right.True is that she killed him.

  • I hope so! He is my fav!!

  • i'm not sure, but i think i read that Tapp survived, and ended up in the saw video game. 

  • It's called a mistake. it happens all the time when making movies. Adam as far as the story line goes, is dead.

  • she is dead bro

  • Okay, theories are always nice. I´m a huge fan also but my opinion is that it should be over now. And have you guys ever heard "movie makers mistakes" ?? These just might be mistakes, regarding to left or right leg and the bullet whole(+bullet whole looks to be in different place in different picture ankle). Or there is a possibility that they made these "mistakes" purposely in thoughts of making S8 but then realized that there´s no reason to make Saw 8 anymore?

  • @JustifiedCrime SAW 8 can still happen. There have been discussions amongst the producers. The chance is still slim, however.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 I know it still could happen but i see no reason why. 3Ds ending was the typical 360-plot twist that usually ends long term movies. And obvious sign that 3D was the last is the fact we got to see Jigsaw ONLY once in 3D. In 4,5 and 6 the extra spice was particularly the Kramer flashbacks. And of course Hoffman could do "Eric Mathews" to get out of the chain, but isnt that already done once. So I find it hard to find any good plot to the eight Saw.

  • @JustifiedCrime Aah, but the extra spice in SAW 8 (if it ever exists) would be seeing how Dr Gordon works in terms of Jigsaw's role.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 And what would the plot be? Cause we have seen three movies already concerning about Hoffman continuing Jigsaw´s legacy. And now it would be Dr.Gordon what... making new games for his own personal fuckep up minds pleasure?

  • @JustifiedCrime The whole purpose of Jigsaw's games isn't to watch them die and be happy about it. He wants them to survive, he said so himself. So did Amanda, in SAW 2.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 Yeah, I´m very aware of Jigsaw´s point and the point of his games :) I just don´t see why we should continue anymore. Gordon is the "sole survivor" now and okay, he´s suffering the Stockholm Syndrome(Jigsaw seems to have thing for SS-people;) ) but there´s nothing left to "proof". Or just maybe if they think it like this "Jigsaw´s game never ends. There are always people who need some little testing" :)

  • Why would they bring Tapp into the bathroom and dress him exactly like Adam was dressed? What's the point?

    I'm sorry, but a lot of your theory sounds like, as aron10194 said, reading into things that aren't there.

  • these things are called continuity errors. its the same as if in one scene 2 people are talking and the clock in the background says 5:15, then when the camera brings the background clock back into frame, it says 8:43, this stuff happens all the time. its nice to have a theory, but sometimes, you might be reading into something that just isn't there

  • Okay...Thats WAYYY interesting!how many times have you seen the movies to notice that kinnd of differences?But come on it's a movie!I think they just forgot what they did to the previous and thought that we wouldn't notice it:/What's more all the other guys didn't wear jeans and white shirt sooo...nah...i think he's TOO dead to stare at the saw 8!

  • It's impossible for the purpose of Adam's shackle change to be a potential plot point: It would've been more pronounced, and the legs would've been purposely placed in the middle to create a focal point, rather than his legs to be placed to the side (1:22). A lot of different things happened between the events of SAW and SAW 3D, so it is rather inconceivable that Adam's gunshot placement was conveniently placed for a movie placed 6 more along the timeline.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 John Kramer (Jigsaw) states near the end of SAW 3D "Without you, my work over the last few years would not have been possible." "The last few years". I ask you, how much decomposition can occur in an average body over a few years? Enough to, say, change the position of the clothing? Perhaps the clothing slid down. It's possible, considering the location of the neckline of the shirt in SAW 3D in comparison to SAW.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 Detective David Tapp's body would have been too large to replace Adam's without arousing suspicion amongst viewers, even with decomposition. Jigsaw never stated that Adam appreciated life. He simply stated to Adam that he now valued his life, because certain death was upon him. In SAW 3, we see Amanda enter the bathroom and strangle him with a bit of plastic.

  • @MrHatAndClogs1001001 Why would Dr Gordon re-enter the bathroom to save Adam, create an elaborate plan to replace Adam's "corpse" with Detective Tapp's body while avoiding Jigsaw in the same area (Jigsaw wouldn't tolerate a breaking of his games rules)? Please don't create a hypothesis when it is full of holes and devoid of proof.

  • wow, can you say stupid conspiracy theory wild goose chase thumb up your ass?

  • I am a huge Saw fan. You did a great job trying to analyze if there will be a 8th. But watching you video I noticed a mistake that would of made me believe you 100%. The locks on the different ankles where accurate but the bullet holes left me puzzled. When you showed the 2movie part when the Corpse had the chain on the opposite leg concluding it was a diff corpse but the bullet hole was in the same spot as Adam originally got shot....

  • @YoursTrulyHL ..... but in the last movie the Corpse had the bullet hole in Taps area of wound. But why wouldnt Taps corpse be the one used in the 2nd movie? Feel me. Hopefully there will be another one but Saws have been slip"n HARD. the 7th was HORRIBLE, they didnt even try to trick anybody. the 1st, 2nd, and 6th were the best. IN THAT ORDER

  • Guys Jigsaw made Hoffman (guy who cut off his foot) his apprentice so he didn't send for help

  • @zongpakto25 The man who cut off his foot was Dr Lawrence Gordon, not Mark Hoffman... Get your facts straight.

  • speechless. i think your right.

  • Did you guys miss that he died in saw 3?

  • @werefunnyandyourenot Yes but did not know that saw 3 when bleeding from the mouth of Adam in the bag when you are drowning was not because he was drowning was because he hit against the lid of the toilet and that caused her swoon and if you saw that in the 3 did not have the chain on either foot? maybe when I woke up when I am unconscious and as it was tied escaped not happened to you?

  • @werefunnyandyourenot he could of easily faked that

  • @werefunnyandyourenot you don't die, you padd out and then return to normal breathing

  • @werefunnyandyourenot who killed him? We saw Amanda but in Saw 3 we heard John say that Amanda ISNT a murderer

  • @werefunnyandyourenot

    not fact

  • @werefunnyandyourenot Well acually he died in the first one, they just didn't show it till the third one. 

  • This is just over analysis imo... Everything here is probably nothing more than a mistake they made while filming and obviously wasn't noticed. Saw is a washed up franchise anyway... The first one was miles better than every other film in the franchise, and the series just failed to live up to that first movie.

  • You are a very intresting minded person. Nice Big Fan from now on.

  • How many saw movies are there?

  • your theory is right.Adam is alive and well.its hard to find out, but tapps corpse is where adam is supposed to be.but i cant help but wonder why tapps shirt is white like adams

  • Gordon was alive in the first one sorry mistake below : /

  • GORDON WAS NEVER ALIVE!! It was jigsaw! You'll know once you see how Jigsaw walks out of the bathroom in the 1st movie and how gordon walks out in the 7th! they walk EXCACLY the same!

  • guys i know the real reason in saw 8 dr lawrence i think his name was put the inspector in their after johns death

  • Yeah, Gordon couldn't forget about Adam, when he was saved by Jigsaw

  • Good thing he got strangled by Amanda, eh?

  • very good theory in my opinion. nice work spotting these things :)

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  • but the dead body is wearing the same clothes as adam was, and is in no way the same build as the black detective

  • @birminghamcity123 It's possible they switched clothes with the dead detective. In SAW, Adam's clothes are kind of baggy, the legs on his jeans practically touch the floor. In SAW 2, the jean legs on the corpse are above the ankles.

  • @CSIperea

    it's possible, you're right. if they were to release SAW 9 with this included it would be epic because adam shouldn't die!

  • i think that in lionsgate rely on their fans to make the plot for them :D

  • I think it may just bve errors by the film makers, can't be 100% perfect in every movie, that and IU don't think they watch their own films or pay extremely close attention when they do.

  • dr.gordon.freeman

  • gordon

  • Is it real of fake in Saw 8 @@

  • ya watching that got me to thinkin and now that i think about it there were 2 pigheads with dr.gordon in the 7th saw oh but do you ever figuer out who the other pighead is i mean do they ever revel any of the pigheads in any of the movies exept for the firest one because it's jigsaw in the firest one.if you have the answer to that go to my channel and coment on it i realy want to know who the pigheads are and do they ever reveal them.

  • check ''amanda ends up adam's suffering'' video on youtube

  • well u have some strong proofs and hay good job noticing all that especially that the corpse could be tapp's I agree with that but if u remember in saw 3 there is a scene showing amanda killing adam so what is your thought about that???

  • I WOULD LOVE YOUR THEORY TO BE CORRECT OR ANY OTHER THEORY BECAUSE ALL I WANT ITS MORE SAW MOVIES!

  • Dude jeep it really nicly done good theroy

  • wtf idgaf wat yall say that shit crai

  • hey man... you have done a good work... i like your theory.. :)

  • 1.You are a dick who can't appreciate a good movie series

    2.we don't care

    3.They had an option of Adam living and Lawrence dying but it went the other way around

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  • Adam  is still alive so, there should be another movie ( VIII) coming this halloween

  • Where did it say it was going to be confirmed?

  • tenés razón chabon, por ahí si sale una 8 podrían usar tus puntos de vistas!!

  • Also watch the special features for saw 7, they even said that it's over and that was it. There will be no saw 8 and they said they think it's a great way to end the series.