Both bikes are great! Ktm 990A is less off-road oriented than the f800gs is.. This bike great all-around! For the sport drive , off-road, touring.. Fuel capacity is average..But, if you need an extra fuel capacity you can always buy the Touratech fuel tank.. But i think this is plenty enough(300km)?! That all depends on the driver.. I have a taller windscreen, engine protection.. The rest is standard...
I personally think this is the best bike for 10.000e..The best compromise for on-off road..
To guy's who write about bikes that they didn't drive: Please..Shut the fuck up! I have an F800GS for about a year now.I go on regular journey's every week ... The most distance i went in one day is about 900km.The bike does great! It's comfortable , and has lot's of power for an enduro.My friend has a 2008 R1200GS and the power of the bikes have the same topspeed, but my gs has better accceleration. And it's far better(lighter to drive) off-road. The r1200gs is just a little more comfortable
The luggage is too small? the fuel tank only lasts 220 miles? 800 cc's too little to haul two people on? Want me to call you a waaambulance? What a bunch of spoiled wussies! My parents rode to Alaska on a 400 Honda...2 up...and my brother followed them on a 175 dirtbike. Did they have a great time? Hell yeah! Please. I'm going to go ride my KLX250 from coast to coast now.
Just wanted to add, that the massive 1200GS is a bad choice if you either plan to travel alone or in, shall we say, very rural areas. It sure looks the business, but is simply way to heavy to handle on extended stretches of for instans sand. I'd say it's more suitable for touring on tar and the occasional dirt/gravel road. Not much else.
As I am a solo traveler, that bike is not for me. I don't ride anything I cant pick up unassisted. Fully loaded ofcourse.
I must give that a try ;) The F800gs is a good bike but IMO, much less of an offroader (more road-oriented) than the ktm990a. And that fuel tank and panniers... :)
First of all you don't know anything about me, so stop fishing. Second of all, Mr. "expert on the subject", I've tried the F800GS, and it is too small for long distance touring. Did you not you noticed it has a tiny fuel tank, tiny seat and tiny panniers? The F800GS is a MEDIUM range dual sport bike. NOT for very long distances with lots of luggage and/or a pillion. About carrying capacity: Did you noticed the standard panniers on the F800GS are half the size those on the R1200GSA?
With regards to the range, I agree completely with you. It's simply laughable to call this a traveling bike with that kind of fuel capacity. The problem is that the fuel tank is located under the seat. It makes it neigh impossible for after market producers to create a solution with a bigger tank (like for the F650GS, the Yam XT660R, etc). Great bike and great handling. But long distance traveling? No thanks.
FYI, my F650GS also has it's fuel tank under the seat...
And it does 1:20 at ease, so no problems there. Yes I have to stop every 300km's, who cares, fuel stations everywhere..
Also, I drive my bike long distances... Record to date is 1100km on one day... If you need a 1200cc because else your back can't hold, get a freakin' 1200LT dude...
I've got the vario panniers on the 650, ideal.. When you travel, just set them to wide, Pack em up, some travel bags on the saddle and you're off!
Well, if there are fuelstations everywhere where you drive, then good for you. When I say travel, I don't mean 1100km up and down the M1. You can do that just as easy (or even easier) on a bike more suited for such driving.
When I said long distance travel, I'm talking VERY rural areas where you don't see a fuelstation for several hundred kms. In that respect, 16l is simply not enough.
It would appear that you and I simply have different views on what long distance travel is. And thats ok.
Dude I think you are way off base on this issue. You should get your motorcycle history and facts in order if you are going to call an 800 too small. Have you actually looked up the carrying capacity of this bike? Have you ever actually gone anywhere on a motorcycle? You are giving bad advice to these people, man.
love it, thinking what to get, the 800gs or the 1200gs, trying to choose if the 800 is good for round world touring. and lol bet you could of got out of that by your self, give it more guts and push that back out to side :-D. great video
the f800 isn't suited for world touring as it's too uncomfortable (seat, wind protection) for massive travel distances and it hasn't got the carrying capacity of bigger cc. models like the BMW R1200GS/Adventure or the KTM990 Adventure. An advantage of the R1200GS/Adventure is it's transmission which doesn't require maintenance, which is very important in remote areas. The R1200Adventure is very well equipped and is the most comfortable altough the Ktm990 handles better offroad
I own an F800GS and have just gone around Europe on it. For wind protection I have the screen extender from Touratech and I use an airhawk on the seat. I traveled 1000km in one day on it without trouble. The big plus for me is that I can pick up the F800GS on my own if I drop it. I haven't really tested it on true Off Road but I'd be tempted to go lighter... maybe the BMW G650 X challenge or the KTM LC4 650. I still love my F800.
For Europe, the F800GS is more than enough, but places with long dirt roads like Africa, Asia, some places in America and Australia... it won't be so comfortable as the KTM990, which is better suited for offroad. Comfort, is also knee protection, carrying capacity, suspension, engine power, rpm vibration, pillion's seat, etc. If you try a BMWR1200GS you'll instantly see what I mean. Don't bother testing the F800 on true offroad because you'll trash it and/or hurt yourself. It's a dual sport...
You can pick up both the R1200GS and the KTM990 also, because it's about technique (just watch the small blonde woman pick up her bike in the Dakar. If you go for a lighter more offroad oriented bike, you'll loose almost all of the touring capability. If you still wanna do it, buy a KTM 690 Enduro, you will really offroad with that one, and it's not bad on the road too (see reviews). (Ktm's are always much better in the offroad)
Nicely done video.I like the fact you did not use music during most of it.Like to hear the bike work.I do have a question,when the bike appeared to stall going up the hill,was it due to selecting a gear too high? Was is
Both bikes are great! Ktm 990A is less off-road oriented than the f800gs is.. This bike great all-around! For the sport drive , off-road, touring.. Fuel capacity is average..But, if you need an extra fuel capacity you can always buy the Touratech fuel tank.. But i think this is plenty enough(300km)?! That all depends on the driver.. I have a taller windscreen, engine protection.. The rest is standard...
I personally think this is the best bike for 10.000e..The best compromise for on-off road..
fmiler92 1 year ago
To guy's who write about bikes that they didn't drive: Please..Shut the fuck up! I have an F800GS for about a year now.I go on regular journey's every week ... The most distance i went in one day is about 900km.The bike does great! It's comfortable , and has lot's of power for an enduro.My friend has a 2008 R1200GS and the power of the bikes have the same topspeed, but my gs has better accceleration. And it's far better(lighter to drive) off-road. The r1200gs is just a little more comfortable
fmiler92 1 year ago
Nice one. Any reliabilty Issues big or small?
I am trying to decide to buy this BMW 800 GS or the Yamaha XTZ 660 Tenere.
biggles72 2 years ago
It is clear that euheide is a dumb ass!
FreakShow320 3 years ago
The luggage is too small? the fuel tank only lasts 220 miles? 800 cc's too little to haul two people on? Want me to call you a waaambulance? What a bunch of spoiled wussies! My parents rode to Alaska on a 400 Honda...2 up...and my brother followed them on a 175 dirtbike. Did they have a great time? Hell yeah! Please. I'm going to go ride my KLX250 from coast to coast now.
jessterr79 3 years ago 12
Just wanted to add, that the massive 1200GS is a bad choice if you either plan to travel alone or in, shall we say, very rural areas. It sure looks the business, but is simply way to heavy to handle on extended stretches of for instans sand. I'd say it's more suitable for touring on tar and the occasional dirt/gravel road. Not much else.
As I am a solo traveler, that bike is not for me. I don't ride anything I cant pick up unassisted. Fully loaded ofcourse.
Creeno1 3 years ago 4
Picking up a fully loaded r1200gsa?
I must give that a try ;) The F800gs is a good bike but IMO, much less of an offroader (more road-oriented) than the ktm990a. And that fuel tank and panniers... :)
euheide 3 years ago
First of all you don't know anything about me, so stop fishing. Second of all, Mr. "expert on the subject", I've tried the F800GS, and it is too small for long distance touring. Did you not you noticed it has a tiny fuel tank, tiny seat and tiny panniers? The F800GS is a MEDIUM range dual sport bike. NOT for very long distances with lots of luggage and/or a pillion. About carrying capacity: Did you noticed the standard panniers on the F800GS are half the size those on the R1200GSA?
euheide 3 years ago
With regards to the range, I agree completely with you. It's simply laughable to call this a traveling bike with that kind of fuel capacity. The problem is that the fuel tank is located under the seat. It makes it neigh impossible for after market producers to create a solution with a bigger tank (like for the F650GS, the Yam XT660R, etc). Great bike and great handling. But long distance traveling? No thanks.
Creeno1 3 years ago
FYI, my F650GS also has it's fuel tank under the seat...
And it does 1:20 at ease, so no problems there. Yes I have to stop every 300km's, who cares, fuel stations everywhere..
Also, I drive my bike long distances... Record to date is 1100km on one day... If you need a 1200cc because else your back can't hold, get a freakin' 1200LT dude...
I've got the vario panniers on the 650, ideal.. When you travel, just set them to wide, Pack em up, some travel bags on the saddle and you're off!
StijnSpijker 2 years ago
Well, if there are fuelstations everywhere where you drive, then good for you. When I say travel, I don't mean 1100km up and down the M1. You can do that just as easy (or even easier) on a bike more suited for such driving.
When I said long distance travel, I'm talking VERY rural areas where you don't see a fuelstation for several hundred kms. In that respect, 16l is simply not enough.
It would appear that you and I simply have different views on what long distance travel is. And thats ok.
Creeno1 2 years ago
Honda africa twin 750 is the best
noussa81 3 years ago
F800GS medium distance touring
R1200GS/Adventure long distance touring
euheide 3 years ago
Dude I think you are way off base on this issue. You should get your motorcycle history and facts in order if you are going to call an 800 too small. Have you actually looked up the carrying capacity of this bike? Have you ever actually gone anywhere on a motorcycle? You are giving bad advice to these people, man.
jessterr79 3 years ago 2
love it, thinking what to get, the 800gs or the 1200gs, trying to choose if the 800 is good for round world touring. and lol bet you could of got out of that by your self, give it more guts and push that back out to side :-D. great video
wintersengland 3 years ago
the f800 isn't suited for world touring as it's too uncomfortable (seat, wind protection) for massive travel distances and it hasn't got the carrying capacity of bigger cc. models like the BMW R1200GS/Adventure or the KTM990 Adventure. An advantage of the R1200GS/Adventure is it's transmission which doesn't require maintenance, which is very important in remote areas. The R1200Adventure is very well equipped and is the most comfortable altough the Ktm990 handles better offroad
euheide 3 years ago
I own an F800GS and have just gone around Europe on it. For wind protection I have the screen extender from Touratech and I use an airhawk on the seat. I traveled 1000km in one day on it without trouble. The big plus for me is that I can pick up the F800GS on my own if I drop it. I haven't really tested it on true Off Road but I'd be tempted to go lighter... maybe the BMW G650 X challenge or the KTM LC4 650. I still love my F800.
EverywhereVirtually 3 years ago
For Europe, the F800GS is more than enough, but places with long dirt roads like Africa, Asia, some places in America and Australia... it won't be so comfortable as the KTM990, which is better suited for offroad. Comfort, is also knee protection, carrying capacity, suspension, engine power, rpm vibration, pillion's seat, etc. If you try a BMWR1200GS you'll instantly see what I mean. Don't bother testing the F800 on true offroad because you'll trash it and/or hurt yourself. It's a dual sport...
euheide 3 years ago
You can pick up both the R1200GS and the KTM990 also, because it's about technique (just watch the small blonde woman pick up her bike in the Dakar. If you go for a lighter more offroad oriented bike, you'll loose almost all of the touring capability. If you still wanna do it, buy a KTM 690 Enduro, you will really offroad with that one, and it's not bad on the road too (see reviews). (Ktm's are always much better in the offroad)
euheide 3 years ago
Dude!!! What are you doing??? Toure on the wrong side of the road!!! ;-)
emdub2mw 3 years ago
Nicely done video.I like the fact you did not use music during most of it.Like to hear the bike work.I do have a question,when the bike appeared to stall going up the hill,was it due to selecting a gear too high? Was is
in first gear?Thanks for this video.
Gatormon 3 years ago
It might have been the unexpected stalling issue. After the 6000 mile service there has been a OBC software update which appears to have fixed it.
EverywhereVirtually 3 years ago
ey raptorama !!! does this bike makes whelies?? i mean if the engine is strong enuff, let me know im interested to get one of that yellow stuff
sergillo3x 3 years ago