@ivvanahh I did read your comment; I know you didn't mention today, but you DID mention a monarchy. I was simply giving an idea of what it would be like by using a modern example.
@ivvanahh Well, if you want an example of the monarchy bit, you may want to look to Saudi Arabia and ask how it's treating them, because that's the kind of government you're likely to get. As to the dresses and the speech, just go visit a renaissance festival... we try our best to get the outward trappings of the time without all the nasty reality, which is I think what you're going for.
@ivvanahh Spain, Norway, Sweden, and of course, England, are just some of quite a number of countries that have Monarchies...they're just not 'that powerful'...but I'm sure they have 'really nice clothes' ;))
@ivvanahh I completely agree. romantic courting with real men who can fill their boots, striking ambitious, brilliant women like anne boleyn, beautiful outfits and a powerful court as the centre of fashion, politics and royal life.
I actually wouldn't mind living in those times no matter what the circumstances. At least we would know about corruption as it happens, not like today where everything in the government is covered up and you can never find a decent source of news.
@NewDawnFades608 Do you honestly think that anyone of the regular people knew about the corruption in the upper classes? They knew less than we know today because the media, such as it was, was completely the creation of the royalty-- in the rare cases that there was any kind of media at all. Remember, no TV, no radio, and the printing press had been in Europe for less than a century. So today, where it's difficult to find a decent news source? Back then, it was literally impossible.
@persephone1933 What do you think the Reformation was? The French Revolution? Back then if people thought they weren't being treated right, it was because of whoever was in power. Do you honestly think that the president holds real power? Whenever we have a problem here, everyone blames him. At least back then you knew who had the power since the society was based on feudalism/absolute monarchy, and its survival depended on how well it functioned. It doesn't take a scholar to figure it out.
@NewDawnFades608 I don't think I remember talking about mediaeval/Renaissance/Enlightenment-era power bases. I was talking about obvious versus obscure corruption and the availability of information via modern or traditional media. It's fairly obvious to anyone who studies governments then and now what the differences are in power as opposed to the illusion of it; however, that has nothing to do with my comment. Or your original one, for that matter.
@persephone1933 It has everything to do with my original comment. It's all based upon living in different eras and under different regimes and knowing how to sense corruption and flaws within the government. It *is* what one's survival may depend upon, after all. In fact, regarding the general population, ignorance may have been safer back then than it is now.
@ivvanahh I totally understand what you mean, except I wouldn't want a monarchy, and I wouldn't want a king who's mere word would mean off with my head. And I wouldn't want my soul purpose to be produce a son. Other than that, the costumes and language are beautiful.
Every time I hear this song, I can't help but cry. I see all the men dying, and poor Anne mourning from the window. Trevor did a wonderful job with this song
it's terrifiying when Anne's "lovers" are all executed, including her beloved brother George, and she can see it from the window. damn. thank God we live in different times.
I know what you mean. So many people look at period movies, and say they wish they lived back then. As beautiful as the dresses were, and as romantic the speech, it was no glamorous thing to live in the Sixteenth Century. One could be burned for saying the wrong thing, women had no rights and unless you were nobility, you worked 16 hour days and had little to eat.
@AngelinaLaFleur Totally agree with that..people say that in the hopes of having the best of both worlds, but it doesn't work that way..it doesn't work any way lol
@AngelinaLaFleur You had no rights if you were nobility, either. As cliche as it is to say it, upper-class women were little more than brood mares and expected to be always either pregnant or trying to conceive within weeks of giving birth. Things were a bit more equal in the lower classes, but everyone's lot was rubbish for them, so that hardly counts for anything. Basically, yes, wish you lived then-- as a king or one of his favourite men.
@TheLeaveTaking Do We?? It depends on what 'part of the world you live on'--there's way too many places where women are treated like as second class citizens...which means they're treated like trash--many have no rights, too many die in childbirth, girl-babies are not wanted, and women can be killed/stoned for just being accused of adultery--without proof. And you tell me 'we live in different times'--sadly, it's not true for so many...
"These bloody days have broken my heart
My lust, my youth did them depart
and blind desire of estate
who hasts to climb seeks to revert
Of truth, circa Regnant tonat
about the throne the thunder rolls" (Thomas Wyatt)
TheSweden000 3 months ago 6
Very sad but beautyfull... I love the second seasson of "The Tudors" and his soundtrack:)
Velmoniq 5 months ago
Poor Anne
windsorbays 5 months ago
@ivvanahh I did read your comment; I know you didn't mention today, but you DID mention a monarchy. I was simply giving an idea of what it would be like by using a modern example.
persephone1933 11 months ago
@ivvanahh Well, if you want an example of the monarchy bit, you may want to look to Saudi Arabia and ask how it's treating them, because that's the kind of government you're likely to get. As to the dresses and the speech, just go visit a renaissance festival... we try our best to get the outward trappings of the time without all the nasty reality, which is I think what you're going for.
persephone1933 11 months ago
@ivvanahh Spain, Norway, Sweden, and of course, England, are just some of quite a number of countries that have Monarchies...they're just not 'that powerful'...but I'm sure they have 'really nice clothes' ;))
EmmaRose473 1 year ago
These bloody days have broken my heart,
My lust, my youth did them depart...
Watchoutapiano 1 year ago 8
its magnificent ......truly something you cannot forget once you've heard it
olga19971 1 year ago
@ivvanahh I completely agree. romantic courting with real men who can fill their boots, striking ambitious, brilliant women like anne boleyn, beautiful outfits and a powerful court as the centre of fashion, politics and royal life.
lucyluuuxxxx 1 year ago
I actually wouldn't mind living in those times no matter what the circumstances. At least we would know about corruption as it happens, not like today where everything in the government is covered up and you can never find a decent source of news.
NewDawnFades608 1 year ago
@NewDawnFades608 Do you honestly think that anyone of the regular people knew about the corruption in the upper classes? They knew less than we know today because the media, such as it was, was completely the creation of the royalty-- in the rare cases that there was any kind of media at all. Remember, no TV, no radio, and the printing press had been in Europe for less than a century. So today, where it's difficult to find a decent news source? Back then, it was literally impossible.
persephone1933 11 months ago
@persephone1933 What do you think the Reformation was? The French Revolution? Back then if people thought they weren't being treated right, it was because of whoever was in power. Do you honestly think that the president holds real power? Whenever we have a problem here, everyone blames him. At least back then you knew who had the power since the society was based on feudalism/absolute monarchy, and its survival depended on how well it functioned. It doesn't take a scholar to figure it out.
NewDawnFades608 9 months ago
@NewDawnFades608 I don't think I remember talking about mediaeval/Renaissance/Enlightenment-era power bases. I was talking about obvious versus obscure corruption and the availability of information via modern or traditional media. It's fairly obvious to anyone who studies governments then and now what the differences are in power as opposed to the illusion of it; however, that has nothing to do with my comment. Or your original one, for that matter.
persephone1933 9 months ago
@persephone1933 It has everything to do with my original comment. It's all based upon living in different eras and under different regimes and knowing how to sense corruption and flaws within the government. It *is* what one's survival may depend upon, after all. In fact, regarding the general population, ignorance may have been safer back then than it is now.
NewDawnFades608 6 months ago
@ivvanahh I totally understand what you mean, except I wouldn't want a monarchy, and I wouldn't want a king who's mere word would mean off with my head. And I wouldn't want my soul purpose to be produce a son. Other than that, the costumes and language are beautiful.
stitchgrl777 1 year ago
Is this song not the same like Smeatons Sad Violin? It sounds the same...
kittiicat91 2 years ago
it is the same, near enough, this song has slight little changes to it.
LaurenEvans123 2 years ago
this is a beautiful piece but also incredibly tragic and it makes the executions so vivid in your mind.
lucyluuuxxxx 2 years ago
Every time I hear this song, I can't help but cry. I see all the men dying, and poor Anne mourning from the window. Trevor did a wonderful job with this song
nataliedormerfan 2 years ago
it's terrifiying when Anne's "lovers" are all executed, including her beloved brother George, and she can see it from the window. damn. thank God we live in different times.
TheLeaveTaking 2 years ago 7
Agreed!
meut14 2 years ago
I know what you mean. So many people look at period movies, and say they wish they lived back then. As beautiful as the dresses were, and as romantic the speech, it was no glamorous thing to live in the Sixteenth Century. One could be burned for saying the wrong thing, women had no rights and unless you were nobility, you worked 16 hour days and had little to eat.
AngelinaLaFleur 2 years ago 34
@AngelinaLaFleur Very well Said; I agree with you
piratesse4 1 year ago
@AngelinaLaFleur Totally agree with that..people say that in the hopes of having the best of both worlds, but it doesn't work that way..it doesn't work any way lol
MikeMcMikerson 1 year ago
@AngelinaLaFleur You had no rights if you were nobility, either. As cliche as it is to say it, upper-class women were little more than brood mares and expected to be always either pregnant or trying to conceive within weeks of giving birth. Things were a bit more equal in the lower classes, but everyone's lot was rubbish for them, so that hardly counts for anything. Basically, yes, wish you lived then-- as a king or one of his favourite men.
persephone1933 11 months ago
@TheLeaveTaking Do We?? It depends on what 'part of the world you live on'--there's way too many places where women are treated like as second class citizens...which means they're treated like trash--many have no rights, too many die in childbirth, girl-babies are not wanted, and women can be killed/stoned for just being accused of adultery--without proof. And you tell me 'we live in different times'--sadly, it's not true for so many...
EmmaRose473 1 year ago 3
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SueScarlett 2 years ago
heartbreaking and so beautiful melody!
SueScarlett 2 years ago 12
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