Then you agree that He's making us play a betting game for which the ante is our eternal soul. If you don't believe in Him without evidence, you burn in Hell forever. Yet this God can prove his existence to us beyond a doubt at any time. It's the sickest game ever conceived. No good, pure entity would play it with anyone ever. Yet God plays it incessantly with all of us.
Ergo, God doesn't exist, or he's more evil than Satan. Which is it?
"Why is God powerless to grant forgiveness after you're dead?"
"Hang on for a sec...let me just make something up here because I know exactly what God's thinking because he's just a projection of myself anyway. OK, here it comes..."
I don't think people die as a result of punishment from God. I hope that's not what you're saying.
God is all powerful except that he doesn't have power to contradict himself. he doesn't have power to break his promises. Otherwise he would cease to be God.
Adam an Eve were emmortal beings my friend. Because of the fall they were exiled from the garden and given a limited amount of time to live! Because of the fall we are all in sin and all under the curse of a mortal existance. So yes death is a part of our punishment..
@YoungApologetics repeating more of what you were told, sad very sad. You and all of the best scholars have no idea what happened at the being of mans history. The best scholars will admit and say things like we believe or we think or this could be true, no not you weekend warrior you studied you bible a few years maybe 10 these guys have spent there lives and aren't arrogant enough to make the statements you make. Who wrote the second chapter of Genesis? scholars dont know but i'm sure you do.
I think God and Jesus are far more understanding and merciful to people who do not accept him in this life. The reason I say that is because some will never get the opportunity to even hear his name. Once we get the opportunity to really know him. Then it is our choice to follow God's commandments and believe in his Son Jesus.
For those who do not receive an opportunity in this life, they will recieve another in the next phase of life after death, before final judgment.
Is what you mean by next phase the Millennial Reign? In this time every single soul will have the chance to recieve Jesus as Lord those who dont to hell fire any nation who regects the messiah would be cut off from YHVH Kingdom
Yes. I also believe there is Christian missionary work going on in the spirit world prior to the institution of the millenium. Judgment is not my call but the book of mormon puts it best "for charity is the pure love of Christ, and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it shall be well with him." One of my goals in following Jesus is to always have charity in my heart.
@YoungApologetics Classic can you give me a scripture. Its funny how your God is a book, My God is alive and My God is life and life itself is the lesson not a book. Most people through out history infact still today are illiterate or only read at a grade school level. My God knows that and with My God Love is unconditional you dont have to know how to read or know scripture verses. You see some day you will fall in Love and have children then you will know alot more about God. Life is God live.
If you believe in God:
Then you agree that He's making us play a betting game for which the ante is our eternal soul. If you don't believe in Him without evidence, you burn in Hell forever. Yet this God can prove his existence to us beyond a doubt at any time. It's the sickest game ever conceived. No good, pure entity would play it with anyone ever. Yet God plays it incessantly with all of us.
Ergo, God doesn't exist, or he's more evil than Satan. Which is it?
ChipArgyle 4 months ago
"Why is God powerless to grant forgiveness after you're dead?"
"Hang on for a sec...let me just make something up here because I know exactly what God's thinking because he's just a projection of myself anyway. OK, here it comes..."
ChipArgyle 4 months ago
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laurabrooke23 2 years ago
The good Samaritan was not of God's religion and certainly was not a Christian, but I think that man is doing just fine on the other side.
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
It isn't that God is powerless to forgive - when man is dead. Instead: death is another display of God's active judgement against sin...
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nathanielmacrae 2 years ago
I don't think people die as a result of punishment from God. I hope that's not what you're saying.
God is all powerful except that he doesn't have power to contradict himself. he doesn't have power to break his promises. Otherwise he would cease to be God.
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
Adam an Eve were emmortal beings my friend. Because of the fall they were exiled from the garden and given a limited amount of time to live! Because of the fall we are all in sin and all under the curse of a mortal existance. So yes death is a part of our punishment..
YoungApologetics 2 years ago
@YoungApologetics repeating more of what you were told, sad very sad. You and all of the best scholars have no idea what happened at the being of mans history. The best scholars will admit and say things like we believe or we think or this could be true, no not you weekend warrior you studied you bible a few years maybe 10 these guys have spent there lives and aren't arrogant enough to make the statements you make. Who wrote the second chapter of Genesis? scholars dont know but i'm sure you do.
ReligiousFreedom666 1 year ago
I also believe that Jesus died for all those who choose to repent of their sins and keep his commandments(the elect).
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
I think God and Jesus are far more understanding and merciful to people who do not accept him in this life. The reason I say that is because some will never get the opportunity to even hear his name. Once we get the opportunity to really know him. Then it is our choice to follow God's commandments and believe in his Son Jesus.
For those who do not receive an opportunity in this life, they will recieve another in the next phase of life after death, before final judgment.
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
Is what you mean by next phase the Millennial Reign? In this time every single soul will have the chance to recieve Jesus as Lord those who dont to hell fire any nation who regects the messiah would be cut off from YHVH Kingdom
catholichotie 2 years ago
Yes. I also believe there is Christian missionary work going on in the spirit world prior to the institution of the millenium. Judgment is not my call but the book of mormon puts it best "for charity is the pure love of Christ, and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it shall be well with him." One of my goals in following Jesus is to always have charity in my heart.
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
May I ask where you draw this conclusion?
YoungApologetics 2 years ago
I draw this conclusion from my understanding of the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
WordsofMormon 2 years ago
Nice! could you give me a Scripture from the Bible?
YoungApologetics 2 years ago
@YoungApologetics Classic can you give me a scripture. Its funny how your God is a book, My God is alive and My God is life and life itself is the lesson not a book. Most people through out history infact still today are illiterate or only read at a grade school level. My God knows that and with My God Love is unconditional you dont have to know how to read or know scripture verses. You see some day you will fall in Love and have children then you will know alot more about God. Life is God live.
ReligiousFreedom666 1 year ago