Didn't Boener cry? and no rightwinger said anything about him or any other Republican being a whining whoosy "conservative". Typical double standard. They aren't conserving anything but I guess their own money in offshore accounts.
your dreaming....first of all the first question she asks was concerning what a republican stated and notice how we didn't get to hear what the answer was...2nd question deals with what a dem said and notice we don't get to hear the answer...dude you spend too much time analyzing to see the real truth..read a book on U.S. History and get back to me!!
The fact that every time I watch a video on youtube on immigration,Obama,or watch liberal viewer's ,moxnewsdotcom's and other liberals' channels,there is an ad on the side of the page pleading to repeal obamacare,or whether you want Obama to be re-elected and host of other tea party and republican bullshit tell me that the conservatives are fighting a losing battle.
@weseyedwalk YES MATE ,THEY THINK BIN,LARDEN IS THE VICTIM OR WAS THE VICTIM,,.....AND YES I BLAME THEM FOR OUR PROBLEMS TO HERE IN AUSTRALIA , take care mate
@godblessthebest Fuck, that is why I LOVE YOU AUSTRALIANS, you people are honorable and brave, I truly love you guys and would fight for your people, THANK GOD THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD Peace out from America.
fox news is so backwards its like they wont to revert back to the 1800's they act like the 80's was great but dont let the happy go lucky music fool you it was basically the really rich and really poor which they dont talk about
fox news average viewer is like 80 so theres that, plus they always complain about cnn or msnbc glass houses faux news glasses house yeah cause there idea of a debate is a republican moderator and a conservative vs a ultra conseratative and talk how great the 1950's and 1800's while not coming any soultions for anything
@rainfaces They talk about how great the 1950s were while completely omitting the progressive tax rates during that time period. The tax rates were 90% for the upper income tax brackets. That rate dropped 20 points to 70% in the 1960s, to 50% in 1980. They are currently around 35%, less than half what they were during the modern half of America's "Golden Age"
@JesusChristsDick I guess all those othe taxes you pay from cell phone air time taxes to line taxes on your cable bill shouldnt be include huh...and your numbers for flat tax rate in the 50's is jus silly.. maybe your thinking of excise taxes that accounted for around 35% of our gdp in the 40's...look up excise that will give you a clearer picture that corporations are our enemy not fox news...in fact fox news has good and bad stuff as does cnn or msnbc but all o them have corporate funding!
@rainfaces That's because people in there 80's are much wiser than the youth and not easily played by the other fake news stations. I myself am young, but hey, there are always exceptions. peace out homey. I hate Fox because they have liberals on their channel far too often for me, more often than MSNBC has conservatives on their station. But at least Fox is fair.
@elkabong1961 Carter, micheal moore, bill maher, bob woodward the list goes on forever what,,,,,,never watched cnn before hmmm maybe your just conditioned by the lamestream, media to believe that conservatives are just dumber than liberals..Maybe you wont allow yourself to see this world through truly unbiased eyes...It is the only way to get to the truth..
Just wanted to comment and say that I appreciate LiberalViewer. I do not consider myself a liberal, per se - I feel like labels are used to compartmentalize people. I feel like we probably don't agree on everything. But I do appreciate you out there pointing things out that should be obvious to all, and I hope that it is causing some people to stop swallowing the shit they are fed daily by the mouthful, and maybe smell the spoon at the least.
Notice she said "some people" when she "quoted" the liberal side but she had a specific source when she spoke for the other side. i don't understand why these people appear on this show when they know they will have no voice.
Hey LiberalSpewer, Patti Ann Browne has no bias. She has said "We make an effort to give all sides of the story. Notice I don't just say 'both sides' because many times there are more than two sides; there are often many different ways to look at an issue." and don´t use that sick analogy to explain the situation. Umar Farouk Abdulmutawantalawyerabab committed an act of war and is not a citizen of the United States, therefore he should be tried by the military. Plain and simple.
@BrownDogProductions1 Just because she says they make an effort, that doesn't mean she actually does. As for it being an act of war, that's debateable. There are plenty of people who set off bombs in the US that are tried as criminals. This shouldn't be any different. And it doesnt matter that he's not a citizen seeing as the Bill of Rights doesn't even use the word citizen. It says ALL people.
Thank you fro defending the Liberal side, Where I live I only see Conservative views on television and am surrounded by conservative views, you strengthen my political resolve...
Fox News isn't even Faux News anymore....it's the WWF of news. Something you watch knowing it's all bullshit, and that only the least evolved examples of humanity actually think is real.
Isn't FOX owned by an Australian where the Nazis escaped to after World War 11 and the leading contributor after Rupert Murdock is a Saudi Prince? Thanks to the Supreme Court 5 now foreigners like them can buy our government officials and convince you freedom is economic slavery to transnational corporations with their well paid puppets and parrots.
This narrator jackass is bias himself, so he should love this shit. Does he also narrate MSNBC or CNN question by question? No he does'nt! He is just another liberal that cries like Obama when someone ask tough questions.
Well I know that and you know that and some of the people reading this know that but it is safe to say that "most" people don't understand how lines of questioning can contain biases or even fully understand what personal and professional bias is exactly.
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You are one full of crap guy liberal. Fox news has its issues, but by far, it is the fairest of all the major news orginizations. Most of the time on the liberal news stations, you will never see the other side represented. It is amazing how stupid you think everyone is with your BS videos or how stupid you are are. It has to be one if you think most of normal Amerioca buys into your BS.You are as bias if not more so than what you arecomplaining about.
I hope you're not American, because that was the most ignorant thing I have ever seen.
Who cares if Liberal News is wrong, if it is then go make videos pointing out their bias. It's important for people like Liberal Viewer to point out what are clear and gross bias on Fox's part.
Instead of telling someone to shut up simply because some other news station is biased, make your own video's pointing out their bias.
@daverick Do you read before you speak or can you read? The word shut up is not in the post nor is he told at anytime to shut up or anything close to that! And a person has a right to an opinion, but when it is an outright lie and misrepresentation, people should speak up. And the American comment, again are you retarded? You entire post was the words a fool or a small child trying to act adult. Itmade no sense and if you believe people should not confront lies, then you are the ignorant one!
@tavadon777 So you answer none of my valid questions, but yet the best you could come up with is this response. No wonder your side is viewed with such disdain? Try debating with reasonable intelligence or at least try to answer my points with atleast a workable lie! You and your kind seem to forget most of America watches many of the news programs, do not buy into your BS propoganda, and that is why so many liberal org fail and why Fox is byfar number one. Answer why that is!
Well if you look back at your conversation I am not the one you were directing questions to.
"No wonder your side is viewed with such disdain?"
That's a question? Well my answer is that both sides are viewed with disdain.
You want me to answer why Fox is by far number 1. Ok Looking at the recent Nielsen ratings I do see that after Scott Browns victory Fox has many more viewers than the others, really doesn't help your case does it? Bias in the audience most likely means bias in the network,
as ALL networks are biased. Fox is relatively equal to CNN at most other times in the news cycle and in fact only last year in March Fox was solidly in 2nd.
Liberal News stations often try to get the other side on many stories, if they don't it usualy means they can't or don't know there IS another side. FOX on the other hand outright ignores the other side, only presenting their views on what happens, and do very little research. the historic Mass Effect vs. FOX is a perfect example of this: the conservative writer admits she did no research on the game Mass Effect and only appeared becauseof the summary FOX gaver her. Keighly owned her.
@Sputnik312 WOW it is true if someone is fed enough BS they will eventually buy it. Not going to argue with you about this as I watch all the stations and what you are saying is just not true as a general rule. I will simply say that if so many found FOX to be so biased, whay the highest ratings. And if the others were so fair, why do Olberman, Matthews, etc have the lowest rating of almost all the shows on all channels? Why did AirAmerica fail? It is because only the left repeats Olberman BS!
By the way, I don't just watch MSNBC. I watch C-SPAN, Faux Nooze, CNN, CBS and ABC mornings, PBS, sometimes NPR radio. I watch it all. I'm actually watching Faux Nooze right now and Palin is flapping her retard-hole as we speak.
So let me ask u something since u apparently know more than us conservatives or u act like u do anyway. What Constitutional authority does Congress have to enact this health care legislation? Dont tell me the Welfare Clause or Commerce Clause bc it doesnt.
I don't understand your question. I'm sitting here looking at the constitution and I see that they are elected officials and that taxes are all in the constitution. If you're a constitutional minimalist just say so. I think it's an insult to my intelligence but I'll go ahead and say my opinion that they don't inherently have constitutional authority to have the PATRIOT ACT either, or the repeal of Habeus Corpus. I guess you're trying to sound like you care about rights?
Your assuming u know me. I never said i supported the Patriot Act or when Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus. Im asking U a question. Im not a Constitutional minimalist, i look at the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Constitution. I also look at the founders to see what they intended. If the Constitution is a "living document" then there would be no point to the Constitution would there? Therefore, programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and Nationalized Health Care is unconstitutional.
Right. Constitutional Minimalist. You go on this 'original intent' argument, which is still picking and choosing which parts of the constitution are valid. No unleavened taxes and all that. Well, I think the income tax amendment is wrong too but I don't think taxes can be abolished. I'm a realist and I live in the modern world, with respect to the founders. It shouldn't be in the constitution *in my opinion.* That doesn't mean we don't have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
The Constitution prohibits the federal govt from violating certain rights. It says what the federal govt can & cannot do. And thats the way it should be. Taxes cant be abolished, bc its in Article 1 Sec 8 Clause 1. And no i dont pick and chose what is valid. For instance, nothing gives the fed govt the right to nationalize our education system like they have. Or have a Dept of Housing and Urban Development or Dept of Agriculture.
I agree about education and many of the Gerrymandering kind of departments that exist. It'd be more efficient to have one umbrella social system by which to allocate social services to the public, excluding many of the wastes we maintain, and especially as far as education is concerned. But if you're completely minimalist and you don't recognize the modern world's problems v. the 1700's, what *is* the point of a constitution?
Well Medicare, Medicaid, & Social Security (and all transfer payments) take up 43% of the federal budget and is the largest and fastest growing portion of the budget. By 2050, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security alone will take up 100% of the budget its growing so fast. Entitlement programs dont work, they are also unconstitutional. There is nothing in the Constitution that has caused America to hold itself back. Only when the fed govt has crept outside its boundaries when that happens.
I think I understand a little better where you're coming from. I think that you're making a somewhat fair constitutional argument, although I don't know my own opinion on "intent" any better than anyone else. The constitution is very repetitive to the point of limiting government power, which is exactly what any society should do, the Magna Carta for example. If you politicize the constitution, it's arguable all day long but if you're strict constitutionalist, we don't progress.
Well u have to research it for yourself. U have to find writings from the founders and read them. I can recommend some books, "The Heritage Guide to the Constitution" is a great source for this. Also like i said, there is nothing in the Constitution that has held us back, its only when the Constitutional boundaries are broken by the federal government is when we hurt ourselves. Our Constitution is the envy of the world, its perfect. It has been a major portion of our success the past 233 years.
Well, I've seen a lot of what Madison, Jefferson, had to say about liberty and taxes, Federalism etc. but I don't think one man's interpretation is automatically valid more than another but I do love the constitution. I think it is pretty damn good. I don't think it's perfect. lol
Nothing's perfect.
Believing it's perfect seems like an unwarranted dogma in the face of years of brilliant articulation from different constitutional scholars juxtaposed, as well as the writers.
Well u have to admit that there line of thinking and there principles that they laid down for us has brought us very far. We have become the most wealthiest nation in the world, the worlds top economic and military super power. What more can u ask for? lol. Well i do think there were some things that were added to the Constitution that were unconstitutional such as the 18th amendment which outlawed alcohol and things of that nature was dumb. Also, i think the 14th amendment was unconstitutional
Yep. Those motherfuckers tried to amend the constitution for their social agenda. Fucking nazis. I know. That's the kind of thinking that freaks me out --that people keep wanting to amend the constitution to do all sorts of shit. Leave it the fuck alone. lol
But why the 14th amendment? I was looking and the Electoral College comes to mind, but I dunno. lol
Well the constitution was never meant to limit the state govts in anyway just the federal govt. The states were left to govern themselves and make there own constitutions however, they couldnt make any laws contradicting anything in the federal constitution, according to the supremacy clause. I think the founders would have frowned on the 14th amendment. It sounds good when u read it but the U.S. Supreme Court has used the 14th amendment in unconstitutional ways in restricting states rights
In 1940, Cantwell v. Connecticut prohibits the states from enacting any law regarding religion from the 14th amendment thats some how tied to the establishment clause in the 1st amendment. Even after the Constitution was ratified, many states still maintained religious establishments and it was perfectly constitutional. The 1st amendment only applied to the federal govt. Even tho the 14th amendment doesnt say anything regarding religion, they say it embraces the religion clause on the states.
To me this is an example of why the Tea Party movement was dumb. Now while I agree with just about everything the lady says to the reporter, she fails to realize that all of these people are of different motives than her own, so she CAN'T explain it and is, as a result, at a loss for words because they are bent on one phrase "Government is not the only answer!" watch?v=U1nRYw-OQ_E (cont.)
as if it actually meant that government has no place. It's a divisive line of thinking against the actual mainstream that aren't necessarily divided on these lines. A recent Wall Street Journal poll asked a good question (sometimes the question makes the poll worth paying attention to) that the true middle that they fight over every electoral season is somewhere between libertarian and modern liberal. Remember, both have strong social views about where government should and shouldn't be involved
Exactly, the founders were excellent on the subject of what can govt be involved in and what they cant be. Thats why i believe in our founding principles. We have crept away from those principles over the years bc of big government progressives (both republicans and democrats). We need to go back to those principles. Thats what the Tea Party movement is all about. And just bc the liberal media may pick the dumbest person out of the protest and alienate them doesnt mean everybody else is dumb.
Look at me, im apart of the Tea Party movement and i know a hell of alot more than most of the Tea Party ppl on TV. If i was on Chris Matthews' show, i would destroy him. I know i would. And u can bet the liberal media especially MSNBC does that bc they all have an agenda. And thats to promote Obama as much as they can and push for the left-wing agenda like single payer health care, miranda rights for terrorists, cap and trade and so forth.
I don't think those numbers are right, by the way. It's sounds pretty inflated. The CDS market crash was estimated to cost the world something like 1 to 4 times the US GDP so the idea that 43% of the budget is Social Security programs etc. Also we do pay less taxes than socialist countries which provide more social services. In their experience, some are forced efficient by limited budgets. We've been fuckin' with SS and MediCare for awhile now and it's getting stupid, but you could be right.
Well, i just checked my numbers, and i was wrong. Those numbers i gave u were from the 2006 federal budget. Transfer payments were actually 53% of the federal budget in 2008. Social Security was 21%, Medicare and Medicaid was 23% and other mandatory payments were 10%. Defense in case your wondering was 21%. So half the budget is consumed by entitlement programs and the dems wanna add the mother of all entitlement programs to the list. (keep in mind all of this is unconstitutional).
I wasn't arguing that it's inherently constitutional, but that they are elected officials, of a supposed representative government, who in the legislature write laws. Also it's sad how people try to use the constitution against the people. As if the founders would care none at all about the poor or medical insurance monopolies of today. What's the point of ideologically sticking your guns when the fact is, some people who happen to be your countrymen, can't defend themselves against cancer.
There are other solutions besides govt though regarding health care. There are over 1,300 insurance companies in the U.S., but not all of them compete with each other, they only compete within state lines. If we were to open up competition nation-wide, costs will go down. Also, no federal premium taxes or anything like that bc the more u tax them, the higher that drives up costs for consumers. The founders would be for free-market solutions not govt solutions. Adam Smith was a genius.
But the dems AREN'T trying to add the mother of all entitlement programs (which WOULD BE universal health care). They are barely doing anything but bowing to special interests and cutting a few of the bits off the ends for the poor, like making it to where you cannot deny someone coverage. I don't have a particular ideology that requires me to justify letting a bunch of people die because they can't afford HC. I'm not any kind of absolutist like that. It would just be ridiculous.
Well u have to realize that the dems' real plan is too eventually have a universal health care system. Think about it they say they wanna lower premiums but then they add a federal premium tax on all insurers which will cause the insurers to raise costs. Then in addition to doing that they make the public option available to all, but private insurers are still restricted from crossing state lines. There restricting commerce among the states and manipulating the markets to do away w/ the insurers
OK, well, I think you're making a leap because it sounds like you almost think these dems aren't corporate, and aren't paid by insurance companies. The progressive thought I've seen prevalent is to shrink their hold on the market so they can't threaten to dump costs on the consumer, because mainly, if they don't then the system will always be slanted against people like me who can't afford insurance and have massive debts even socialist countries wouldn't allow to occur on their people.
Regarding socialism, it is not meant to help ppl, its all about more power for the govt and less for the ppl. Remember, the goal of socialism is communism. In regards to health care, ppl like u can be helped if the fed govt would lift restrictions on the insurers and let them compete across state lines. The free-market has shown to produce the cheapest and best products on the market. Also, the progressives in Congress dont care about u or me, only themselves. Trust me on what i said before
It's just too sweeping a statement that the goal of socialism is communism. Socialism refers to a particular kind of governance as for providing social services, communism is dictatorial in that the government has all the power. Some things are socialized whether you like it or not, so long as you have taxes to pay for them, they are socialized.
Check out the German HC system. The Bismarck system is a good example of how private hospitals and private doctors can still make buttloads of money and be basically subsidized by the government, and they spend less money than we do per-capita on HC and they have more coverage for all people, without having to be able to pay a bill every year or month, unlike here where we pay MORE and 47 million of us have no coverage at all.
By the way in Germany, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, Australia, you'd be surprised at how many people aren't actually dying in the streets from their "radical socialist governments". You sound like you're extremely invested in a particular political ideology, you say you're "Conservative." I personally don't share a party. I think there's a lot of divisive non-sense coming out of political holes on a daily basis, and yet critical thinking, and rational problem solving are not applied.
I've come to rely on the articles behind the news. CNN writes good articles, NBC, CBS, but also AP, Washington Times, etc. because the media has just been flooded with political bias for so long, the divisive and superficial way that they approach things, it's as if they are relying only, anymore, on the viewership of fucktards who bow to their own text polls.
I don't see how anyone could miss such an astute observation in the face of years of experience with the mainstream media. If you really watch all news shows, unless you're a complete fucking moron, you know that Faux Nooze is retardedly bias.
Keyword here in the vid, he says "Straight Moderator", because traditionally in news they're supposed to be "straight" but hardly any of them on any of the channels are, anymore, at least in any effective way, and Faux is THE worst, and this is a small exp
Liberal Viewer, i would take u seriously if u posted videos on other networks like MSNBC or CNN but since u dont, YOUR THE BIASED ONE! I also seen another video u posted before saying that u dont see bias on MSNBC. Now we all know there numbers are tanking because of the fact they are the most biased network out there. But bc MSNBC fits YOUR point of view and confirms your ideology u dont post videos on them at all. So before u accuse another network of being biased, u might wanna check yourself
MSNBC is the most biased news out there? Now, while I do watch it quite a bit, I have to say that MSNBC by comparison to the others is more 50/50. From Willie Geist, through what seems like 5 hours of Scarborough, Andrea Mitchell (she's married to Alan Greenspan and not too liberal. I've seen her argue against libs a lot. She's been around a LONG time), and then the libertarian had his own two hours. They rotate. Fox is blatantly neo-con. They aren't sweeping true conservatives. They're neo-con.
MSNBC is more 50/50? Did u see them mock the tea party protests? Did u see all of Olbermann's rants on George W. Bush? Did u see all the attacks on Sarah Palin from ppl like Matthews, Olbermann, Shultz and Maddow? Olbermann went as was far as to make up stories like that she "plagiarized" a speech from Newt Gingrich when it was actually clever video editing by Olbermann. Also did u see the Media Research Center's stats on who was more fair in the 2008 election? U might wanna go and look at it.
Yeah, you're just ignoring the fact that it's only in prime-time MSNBC, and that it doesn't actually exist anywhere else. CNN doesn't do it. And you're ignoring that MSNBC switched in prime-time back around 2005-2006 around Katrina, just like CNN kinda did, because Bushes polls were at an all-time low. Also ignoring the fact that until they started Maddows and Shultz, Olbermann was just one guy, and the only one saying anything against the admin. regularly, for years.
Also ignoring the fact that CNN regularly has similar 3-ways, but they mix it up too. A lot of CNNs people are clearly conservative, although maybe not neo-cons. It's not an issue where you have two major ideologies in conflict. You have conservatives taking a backseat to radical Tea Partytards and neo-cons, v. a somewhat 50/50 media, going con and lib, with MSNBC having a couple of outspoken libs, almost counterbalances Faux Nooze.
It exist everywhere, ill give u an example. They showed a clips of a man with an AR-15 at a place where Obama was speaking. They tried to spin it that it was white racist tea party ppl, WHEN THEY FAILED TO SAY THAT IT WAS A BLACK MAN WITH AN AR-15. THEY CROPPED THE VIDEO SO U COULDNT SEE THE GUYS COLOR. This was one of there morning "news" shows too. And the reason why u have the view that tea party ppl are "retards" is bc u watch MSNBC who dishonestly demeans them as a just demonstrated.
Uhm... Wow. I watched him on MSNBC and clearly saw that he was a black man. I don't remember anyone ever saying it was white racism, but it sounds like something Al Sharpton would say or make up. Maybe someone said that but I don't know how that reflects on MSNBC as a whole because AGAIN, they aren't ALL liberals, unlike at Faux Nooze where all the anchors are neo-cons or Christards and kooks of another sort.
Are you sure you weren't victim to a hoax? And I don't think everyone gives a shit what Keith Olbermann thinks like you seem to be implying. He's just some dude. Imagine a channel dedicated to Olbermann. That was Faux for Bush for 8 years straight without a doubt. Every now and then they'd say something opposed to keep it fresh and then turn and deny it whenever they could, and rely on people like you to justify their bias, which is again, missing the point entirely.
I don't think there's any excuse for ideological bias to skew the issues in favor of some politicians' coffers if you're going to call yourself a journalist. It's immoral. Period.
Also Keith Olbermann, like Bill O'Reilly, like Lou Dobbs was, are commentators. And that's all any Faux Nooze anchor could possibly qualify for at all. Not Journalists, yet their motto is "Fair and Balanced." Ironic, but they don't care because they ARE playing to a certainly political view point, blatantly.
The reason I think they're retarded is because they are. By in large I'm a disillusioned individualist. I live in a community. I've defended them in some instances, but for the most part they are wackos, protesting in favor of corporatism indirectly, whether they realize it or not. What they are saying is: "If we raise taxes, the big bad corporation will take mah jerbs!" like the slave mentality to greed, as opposed to wanting HC for children, they'd rather if you can't make it, you should die.
By the way, how could you take a side when the fact is that neither is correctly justified in being bias toward a political spectrum, and it's a total crime against journalism, not to mention the people's right to their airwaves and having at least a somewhat educational or positive experience in dealing with the issues of the day? The fact is journalism is dying in TV right now and instead of being mad, you'd rather say "MSNBC does it, that justifies it!" when Faux Nooze has been for a decade.
I see that prime-time has the liberal swing on MSNBC but it doesn't exist anywhere else and if you remember MSNBC BEFORE 2006, it wasn't very liberal at all with Scarborough and Tucker Carlson having domination over prime-time, competing against Olbermann. CNN, MSNBC, Faux Nooze, they all are bias toward superficiality and sensationalism, but a reasonable person cannot deny the fact that they are an affront to true Journalism, if indeed they are a symptom and result of an entirely diseased media
Maybe if he was treat as a enemy combatant in a military court he would talk , who knows cuz' we had terrorist in Guantanamo that weren't interrogate for more than 3 years and so on. what we need to do is be smart threat him with the death penal and scare the crap out him and sit with the lawyer and remind her she is American that go and make him talk again...
all of you that want him to be water boarding are pretty wrong ..Why cuz' we did that in the last administration and 95%of confections were fake just to stop the pain and the torture...
1. Biases are notoriously hard to eliminate, thus this situation is really not surprising given the fact that Faux news makes no effort to remain neutral.
2. No, I don't think that any intellegent person who has been invited should turn them down; the simple fact is that they have a huge audience. The tactic should be to remain ruthlessly honest in one's opinions of faux and the topics discussed. Christopher Hitchens' many appearances should serve as a guide for how to deal with these morons.
I can't watch Foxnews, at all. Every time I do I get so angry I begin to feel sick. One thing thats always drove me mad was seeing an unfair situation and not being able to do anything about it. What makes it worse is knowing people watch this channel with no irony and totally agree. What does that say about people in this country?
anybody who cites rasmussen with ridiculous polls like that needs to be smacked upside the head. what kind of a question is that? "should waterboarding be used to gain information from the suspected bomber?" why even add that last part about the bomber? its not like we're going to be waterboarding clowns and nuns... obviously, we would waterboard the terrorists. but when you add words like that in a poll question, people will obviously lean over to a certain side. its a very common tactic.
Rasmussen polling used to be downplayed as a joke in the industry, but in the past two years, it's been received as gospel by Conservative idiots who think that there can be some form of bias in the tonal quality of the questioner. You see how stupid Rasmussen polling is in the questions it asks: "Should waterboarding be used..." Really?! Give me a break!
"Civil Libertarian" Civil coming from the word "civis",meaning "citizen" Is this scumbag a citizen?I really can't believe you miss so MANY points here.1)What "leverage does a plea bargain have " for a guy who was going to blow himself up ? 2)Obama,sensing the ineptitude and weakness everyone's seeing here,made a point of saying"We're at War with Al Queda";of course,if we're at war,why does the enemy soldier get a lawyer?You interrogate the enemy for info.you don't let him lawyer up.
First of all, if you don't think the guy was interrogated something fierce, then you're an idiot! Secondly, the man was captured on American soil. He was subdued as a threat and therefore subject to rules of due process, as per the Constitution.
Neither You nor I know how fiercely he was interrogated;the bottom line is he has stopped talking;because instead of him being an enemy soldier,he is a criminal suspect.;and,considering he was a zealot willing to blow himself up,I seriously doubt that the Government has any leverage whatsoever;;so if there are 10 more guys out there with a similar plan,or anything else brewing,we don;know.This War is diferent fromk previous wars;in this war ,information is everything.
Again, you're really stupid if you think nothing was gotten out of the guy. They didn't give him a lawyer to "lawyer up" with before interrogating him. He was a small-time player without much actionable intelligence, or he'd STILL be awaiting pain killing drugs! I don't know why you think our government is full of Boy Scouts, but you're a real moron if you think the guy wasn't bashed a few dozen times just for the sake of intelligence and revenge! There's many examples of this happening before.
darrenmuseYou are stating facts you have no knowledge if.You have insulted me becaude I disagreed with you;This makes you a blowhard,a fool,uncouth,and probably just another Liberal Bedwetter.
Again, there are VAST instances of people being interrogated with very harsh techniques for FAR less than this. Do you disagree? So the fact that you just assume that this guy is getting a handjob from a big titted nurse while eating Prime Rib proves that you're an idiot! The guy isn't getting a pass, he's just not being forced into a naked butt pyramid like what would happen during the last administration! Just chill the fuck out and let justice run its course!
You're right! I imagine we didn't get anything from the guy. You're a dolt! Take your head out of your ass! Just because Fox News hasn't reported on information gotten from the guy doesn't mean that interrogators didn't get anything from him! And SHOCKING you say "it's not about Justice" too! It's never about Justice, just vengeance and revenge, huh? Which is why the American people chose an administration opposite from the past one!
darrenmuse:If you are saying treating this suspect as a criminal defendant,with a lawyer telling him to clam up,is a more effectiveway to get info than treating him as an enemy combatant and REALLY LEANING ON HIM ,then you're either lying or you have the intelligence of Cheeze Whiz.He's an attempted suicide bomber;he was going to kill himself;you think the government has leverage to make him talk?
And what makes you think that a military interrogator is going to get any more from this guy through means of torture?I mean I can't think think of a more painful way to go than to strap a bunch of explosives to your chest.
Let's just ignore all the professionals in interrogation that tell you torture dosen't work.Relatively ineffective to other means.But you're not really concerned about that are you?You just want to hurt someone the truth is secondary.
gamesmaster:When did I use the word torture?but,obviously,a military guy would get more informatio than is presently the case because the guy has lawyered up and isn't talking at all.;and I don't see the government having a lot of leverage .
If you think we got as much information from this guy treating him as a "suspect" and giving him a lawyer as we would have treating him as an enemy combatant,then you have the i.q. of cheezewizz;that said,Obama has the right to go either way,but he shouldn't insult Americans' intelligence;he should honestly state that he thinks treating these scumbags as regular criminals is better pr to the rest of the world and he considers it more important than getting the info needed."
I usualy agree 100% with your videos but, horrified as I am by the content of this one, I think the discussion here is broader and deeper.
I´d point at that the "not being a US cityzen and thereby not having the right to a public speedy trial with formal charges and a lawyer" approach is appalling yet reasonably defendable. Is the 6th ammendment a human right?
Also, waterboarding being discussed so casualy makes me phisycally sick.
Yes. No. If no one will go, Fox will report that everyone on the left was afraid to appear. I love how these people want to put so much power into the hands of the executive and yet scream about fascism.
Yes I definitely think that civil libertarians, democrats etc should refuse to appear on the new Fox Three Way featured program. They should appear on Chris Matthews instead. Chris fires staccato questions at his republican guests without letting them answer at all. Especially when he is drunk. What do you call an MSNBC one way? (think ,think!) Correct ! Masturbation.
I object to liberalviewer calling that show "fox news". It clearly has only a rudimentary resemblance to a news show. Sort of how a merry go round horse is supposed to be a horse. It looks similar but upon closer inspection it is made of wood and only goes in circles.
Reading through these leftest comments is hilarious.
It's a reminder of the type of men that entitlements create. It's like they're locked in time as little children. They failed to ever make the connection between their own lives, creativity, and labors, so thus never grew into manhood.
They're like eternal children, feeding at the government trough, insulting anyone that dares question the quality of the swill.
No it does not represent all that Canada is, just like Germany doesnt represent all that Austria is. Though the two countries are so similar to us that we could hardly really spot the differences, they are still there; there are certian aspects of Canada that America in general still does not possess. Our culture is very similar but we are different, for one we dont have that kick ass revolutionary past! The one thing i disagree with though is that America is not all that the free world is.
Sorry ran out of characters- Most countries claim to be free but many of them are not, Canada and America included, now we have it way better then most places, but we are still not free enough to do whatever we want, that does not harm another pereson. What we need my friend is another revolution, as Thomas Jefferson said Every generation needs a new revolution And both countries are sorely lacking in it. We have almost become apathitic to the way our government treats its citizens ;( VIVA LA
Usually in my day to day life i just say things, not really without thinking about what i say, but what kind of reaction i am going to get, usually i want a shake your head laughing what the fuck is that guy talking about kind of reaction so that why i decided to write that ;) ha
I think that for a fox anchor to bring someone on and ask them unfair and biased questions can be a bad thing, should the person being asked have the knowledge and wisdom to put out strong enough answers, even fox news could be used as a liberal front.
Being that Fox News isn't a real news organization...yes anyone on the left should do whatever they can to avoid Fox News altogether to escape from these situations.
I mean if they want a real interview they should go on the Daily Show with John Stewart. :P
Yes!!! FOX is biased. Where is the debate of Bin Laden's statements to prove to the world he is full of sht by the FOX geniuses? Nobody translated for the public other than a few independent people who couldn't get any prime time news coverage including MSNBC and CNN.
Of course it is bias just like MSNBC whose parent company is GE who is one of the weapons contractors making a profit off the wars while bankrupting our country to do it. MSNBC has more token Liberals than FOX.
I love the way they show the poll as if the public opinion actually matters whatsoever. So a bunch of stupid fox news watching christians think he should be waterboarded. And? It's not their call, as they've no proffessional basis of experience whatsoever when it comes to a decision like that.
Waterboarding or any torture isn't even reliable anyway. People will confess to anything if they're under great duress, so what the fuck would the point be? It wouldn't help garner any new information.
First, the repeated assumption that "treating the suspect as an enemy combatant" (read: torture him) would produce reliable information.
Second, after WWII, we allowed the Nazi's to "lawyer up" and put them on trial (Nuremberg). But today, we need to abandon our principles and "torture" every suspect for our intelligence because "we are at war".
Third, if you are relying on the criminal for your intel, you've already failed.
Didn't Boener cry? and no rightwinger said anything about him or any other Republican being a whining whoosy "conservative". Typical double standard. They aren't conserving anything but I guess their own money in offshore accounts.
JKEJulian 4 months ago
your dreaming....first of all the first question she asks was concerning what a republican stated and notice how we didn't get to hear what the answer was...2nd question deals with what a dem said and notice we don't get to hear the answer...dude you spend too much time analyzing to see the real truth..read a book on U.S. History and get back to me!!
scottyboi76 5 months ago in playlist LiberalViewer videos targeted by YouTube Video ID software
The fact that every time I watch a video on youtube on immigration,Obama,or watch liberal viewer's ,moxnewsdotcom's and other liberals' channels,there is an ad on the side of the page pleading to repeal obamacare,or whether you want Obama to be re-elected and host of other tea party and republican bullshit tell me that the conservatives are fighting a losing battle.
TheeEvilThatMenDo 7 months ago in playlist LiberalViewer videos targeted by YouTube Video ID software
i wonder if "What about that?" was written into her script as often as she said it?
WowUrFcknHxC 7 months ago
YOU LEFTIES WOULD LET HIM GO,,,,,YOU LEFT WINGERS ARE,NUT,,HAVE FUN WITH ISLAM ,,,,LEFTIES
godblessthebest 11 months ago
@godblessthebest Liberals suck, I blame them for most of this countries problems.
weseyedwalk 6 months ago in playlist LiberalViewer videos targeted by YouTube Video ID software
@weseyedwalk YES MATE ,THEY THINK BIN,LARDEN IS THE VICTIM OR WAS THE VICTIM,,.....AND YES I BLAME THEM FOR OUR PROBLEMS TO HERE IN AUSTRALIA , take care mate
godblessthebest 6 months ago
@godblessthebest Fuck, that is why I LOVE YOU AUSTRALIANS, you people are honorable and brave, I truly love you guys and would fight for your people, THANK GOD THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD Peace out from America.
weseyedwalk 6 months ago
fox news is so backwards its like they wont to revert back to the 1800's they act like the 80's was great but dont let the happy go lucky music fool you it was basically the really rich and really poor which they dont talk about
rainfaces 1 year ago
fox news average viewer is like 80 so theres that, plus they always complain about cnn or msnbc glass houses faux news glasses house yeah cause there idea of a debate is a republican moderator and a conservative vs a ultra conseratative and talk how great the 1950's and 1800's while not coming any soultions for anything
rainfaces 1 year ago
@rainfaces They talk about how great the 1950s were while completely omitting the progressive tax rates during that time period. The tax rates were 90% for the upper income tax brackets. That rate dropped 20 points to 70% in the 1960s, to 50% in 1980. They are currently around 35%, less than half what they were during the modern half of America's "Golden Age"
JesusChristsDick 1 year ago
@JesusChristsDick I guess all those othe taxes you pay from cell phone air time taxes to line taxes on your cable bill shouldnt be include huh...and your numbers for flat tax rate in the 50's is jus silly.. maybe your thinking of excise taxes that accounted for around 35% of our gdp in the 40's...look up excise that will give you a clearer picture that corporations are our enemy not fox news...in fact fox news has good and bad stuff as does cnn or msnbc but all o them have corporate funding!
steviewonder417 1 year ago
@steviewonder417 Did I say anything about a flat tax rate? you're a fucking idiot
JesusChristsDick 1 year ago
@rainfaces That's because people in there 80's are much wiser than the youth and not easily played by the other fake news stations. I myself am young, but hey, there are always exceptions. peace out homey. I hate Fox because they have liberals on their channel far too often for me, more often than MSNBC has conservatives on their station. But at least Fox is fair.
weseyedwalk 6 months ago in playlist LiberalViewer videos targeted by YouTube Video ID software
And where are the THOUSANDS of examples of dinosaur liberal lamestream media bias??
elkabong1961 1 year ago
@elkabong1961 Carter, micheal moore, bill maher, bob woodward the list goes on forever what,,,,,,never watched cnn before hmmm maybe your just conditioned by the lamestream, media to believe that conservatives are just dumber than liberals..Maybe you wont allow yourself to see this world through truly unbiased eyes...It is the only way to get to the truth..
steviewonder417 1 year ago
Jealous of the success of Fox News much?
elkabong1961 1 year ago
@elkabong1961 My mama always told me, what's popular isn't always what's right.
redjello333 1 year ago
Some people say, some people say. Who are these some people? You say. Its you there is no some people.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
Fox is less of a three way, and more of a cluster fuck.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago 2
I think its funny that whoever created this video was even more biased in his final questions than the anchor ever was in hers.
ConClaa 1 year ago
Just wanted to comment and say that I appreciate LiberalViewer. I do not consider myself a liberal, per se - I feel like labels are used to compartmentalize people. I feel like we probably don't agree on everything. But I do appreciate you out there pointing things out that should be obvious to all, and I hope that it is causing some people to stop swallowing the shit they are fed daily by the mouthful, and maybe smell the spoon at the least.
Silvertaker 1 year ago
Thank goodness CNN shows no bias. Typical Libtard.
57t2 1 year ago
Notice she said "some people" when she "quoted" the liberal side but she had a specific source when she spoke for the other side. i don't understand why these people appear on this show when they know they will have no voice.
samala5793 1 year ago
Hey LiberalSpewer, Patti Ann Browne has no bias. She has said "We make an effort to give all sides of the story. Notice I don't just say 'both sides' because many times there are more than two sides; there are often many different ways to look at an issue." and don´t use that sick analogy to explain the situation. Umar Farouk Abdulmutawantalawyerabab committed an act of war and is not a citizen of the United States, therefore he should be tried by the military. Plain and simple.
BrownDogProductions1 1 year ago
@BrownDogProductions1 Just because she says they make an effort, that doesn't mean she actually does. As for it being an act of war, that's debateable. There are plenty of people who set off bombs in the US that are tried as criminals. This shouldn't be any different. And it doesnt matter that he's not a citizen seeing as the Bill of Rights doesn't even use the word citizen. It says ALL people.
kilroy227 1 year ago
Asking Fox to stop with Right wing bias is like asking a shark to eat broccoli and leave seals alone.
No matter what it says, Seals are going to be eaten.
Darkfirebrand 1 year ago
Thank you fro defending the Liberal side, Where I live I only see Conservative views on television and am surrounded by conservative views, you strengthen my political resolve...
drganforce10 1 year ago 2
you just dont like that fox ask tough questions of liberals.msnbc ask soft questions of liberals and gotcha questions of conservatives
namtesyalp 1 year ago
you just don't like the fact that you were conceived in a 3 way.. your mom, your dad, and a donkey.
it certainly explains your fascination with bestiality, tho.
lacrymologyst 1 year ago
I love their ticker "Bomb Blot".
Fox News isn't even Faux News anymore....it's the WWF of news. Something you watch knowing it's all bullshit, and that only the least evolved examples of humanity actually think is real.
Eldeecue 1 year ago 2
@ Eldeecue
wow lol, spot on bud :)
chrissphinx 1 year ago
I've been luckily in the middle of a few three-ways before & it was good...yea!
Anyway, I know that someone has to monitor Faux Noise but who in their right (correct) mind would watch this excrement masquerading as news!!
marcostar57 1 year ago
Isn't FOX owned by an Australian where the Nazis escaped to after World War 11 and the leading contributor after Rupert Murdock is a Saudi Prince? Thanks to the Supreme Court 5 now foreigners like them can buy our government officials and convince you freedom is economic slavery to transnational corporations with their well paid puppets and parrots.
JKEJulian 1 year ago
This narrator jackass is bias himself, so he should love this shit. Does he also narrate MSNBC or CNN question by question? No he does'nt! He is just another liberal that cries like Obama when someone ask tough questions.
lesgov69 1 year ago
Well I know that and you know that and some of the people reading this know that but it is safe to say that "most" people don't understand how lines of questioning can contain biases or even fully understand what personal and professional bias is exactly.
Eruptide 2 years ago
i am not sure what you meant.
davisfleetwood 2 years ago
NO OFFENSE...
but we all know FOX is LIBEL...
You might as well hit yourself over the head with a hammer if you watch FOXNEWS.
treid100182 2 years ago
He he, I thought the tongue-in-cheek opening statement by lib'viewer was funny.
underpantssquirrel 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You are one full of crap guy liberal. Fox news has its issues, but by far, it is the fairest of all the major news orginizations. Most of the time on the liberal news stations, you will never see the other side represented. It is amazing how stupid you think everyone is with your BS videos or how stupid you are are. It has to be one if you think most of normal Amerioca buys into your BS.You are as bias if not more so than what you arecomplaining about.
rocky5544 2 years ago
@rocky5544
I hope you're not American, because that was the most ignorant thing I have ever seen.
Who cares if Liberal News is wrong, if it is then go make videos pointing out their bias. It's important for people like Liberal Viewer to point out what are clear and gross bias on Fox's part.
Instead of telling someone to shut up simply because some other news station is biased, make your own video's pointing out their bias.
We don't learn anything if we all shut up.
daverick 2 years ago 2
@daverick Do you read before you speak or can you read? The word shut up is not in the post nor is he told at anytime to shut up or anything close to that! And a person has a right to an opinion, but when it is an outright lie and misrepresentation, people should speak up. And the American comment, again are you retarded? You entire post was the words a fool or a small child trying to act adult. Itmade no sense and if you believe people should not confront lies, then you are the ignorant one!
rocky5544 2 years ago
You aren't confronting lies.
tavadon777 2 years ago
@tavadon777 So you answer none of my valid questions, but yet the best you could come up with is this response. No wonder your side is viewed with such disdain? Try debating with reasonable intelligence or at least try to answer my points with atleast a workable lie! You and your kind seem to forget most of America watches many of the news programs, do not buy into your BS propoganda, and that is why so many liberal org fail and why Fox is byfar number one. Answer why that is!
rocky5544 2 years ago
Well if you look back at your conversation I am not the one you were directing questions to.
"No wonder your side is viewed with such disdain?"
That's a question? Well my answer is that both sides are viewed with disdain.
You want me to answer why Fox is by far number 1. Ok Looking at the recent Nielsen ratings I do see that after Scott Browns victory Fox has many more viewers than the others, really doesn't help your case does it? Bias in the audience most likely means bias in the network,
tavadon777 2 years ago
as ALL networks are biased. Fox is relatively equal to CNN at most other times in the news cycle and in fact only last year in March Fox was solidly in 2nd.
tavadon777 2 years ago
I lol'd.
Liberal News stations often try to get the other side on many stories, if they don't it usualy means they can't or don't know there IS another side. FOX on the other hand outright ignores the other side, only presenting their views on what happens, and do very little research. the historic Mass Effect vs. FOX is a perfect example of this: the conservative writer admits she did no research on the game Mass Effect and only appeared becauseof the summary FOX gaver her. Keighly owned her.
Sputnik312 2 years ago
@Sputnik312 WOW it is true if someone is fed enough BS they will eventually buy it. Not going to argue with you about this as I watch all the stations and what you are saying is just not true as a general rule. I will simply say that if so many found FOX to be so biased, whay the highest ratings. And if the others were so fair, why do Olberman, Matthews, etc have the lowest rating of almost all the shows on all channels? Why did AirAmerica fail? It is because only the left repeats Olberman BS!
rocky5544 2 years ago
If Americans don't respect the rights of other people who live in their country, do they deserve those same rights?
EziekielNightwind 2 years ago 2
@EziekielNightwind Yep, they do. Everyone does. :)
imlan123 2 years ago
Except I'm not American, and am of the mind that America's biggest mistake was leaving Britain in the first place.
I say, if anyone wants someone to be tortured, they themselves has to be tortured.
EziekielNightwind 2 years ago
depends if legally in the country
Rzaforshiza 2 years ago
By the way, I don't just watch MSNBC. I watch C-SPAN, Faux Nooze, CNN, CBS and ABC mornings, PBS, sometimes NPR radio. I watch it all. I'm actually watching Faux Nooze right now and Palin is flapping her retard-hole as we speak.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
So let me ask u something since u apparently know more than us conservatives or u act like u do anyway. What Constitutional authority does Congress have to enact this health care legislation? Dont tell me the Welfare Clause or Commerce Clause bc it doesnt.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
I don't understand your question. I'm sitting here looking at the constitution and I see that they are elected officials and that taxes are all in the constitution. If you're a constitutional minimalist just say so. I think it's an insult to my intelligence but I'll go ahead and say my opinion that they don't inherently have constitutional authority to have the PATRIOT ACT either, or the repeal of Habeus Corpus. I guess you're trying to sound like you care about rights?
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Your assuming u know me. I never said i supported the Patriot Act or when Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus. Im asking U a question. Im not a Constitutional minimalist, i look at the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Constitution. I also look at the founders to see what they intended. If the Constitution is a "living document" then there would be no point to the Constitution would there? Therefore, programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and Nationalized Health Care is unconstitutional.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Right. Constitutional Minimalist. You go on this 'original intent' argument, which is still picking and choosing which parts of the constitution are valid. No unleavened taxes and all that. Well, I think the income tax amendment is wrong too but I don't think taxes can be abolished. I'm a realist and I live in the modern world, with respect to the founders. It shouldn't be in the constitution *in my opinion.* That doesn't mean we don't have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
igytsiycm 2 years ago
The Constitution prohibits the federal govt from violating certain rights. It says what the federal govt can & cannot do. And thats the way it should be. Taxes cant be abolished, bc its in Article 1 Sec 8 Clause 1. And no i dont pick and chose what is valid. For instance, nothing gives the fed govt the right to nationalize our education system like they have. Or have a Dept of Housing and Urban Development or Dept of Agriculture.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
I agree about education and many of the Gerrymandering kind of departments that exist. It'd be more efficient to have one umbrella social system by which to allocate social services to the public, excluding many of the wastes we maintain, and especially as far as education is concerned. But if you're completely minimalist and you don't recognize the modern world's problems v. the 1700's, what *is* the point of a constitution?
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well Medicare, Medicaid, & Social Security (and all transfer payments) take up 43% of the federal budget and is the largest and fastest growing portion of the budget. By 2050, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security alone will take up 100% of the budget its growing so fast. Entitlement programs dont work, they are also unconstitutional. There is nothing in the Constitution that has caused America to hold itself back. Only when the fed govt has crept outside its boundaries when that happens.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
I think I understand a little better where you're coming from. I think that you're making a somewhat fair constitutional argument, although I don't know my own opinion on "intent" any better than anyone else. The constitution is very repetitive to the point of limiting government power, which is exactly what any society should do, the Magna Carta for example. If you politicize the constitution, it's arguable all day long but if you're strict constitutionalist, we don't progress.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well u have to research it for yourself. U have to find writings from the founders and read them. I can recommend some books, "The Heritage Guide to the Constitution" is a great source for this. Also like i said, there is nothing in the Constitution that has held us back, its only when the Constitutional boundaries are broken by the federal government is when we hurt ourselves. Our Constitution is the envy of the world, its perfect. It has been a major portion of our success the past 233 years.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Well, I've seen a lot of what Madison, Jefferson, had to say about liberty and taxes, Federalism etc. but I don't think one man's interpretation is automatically valid more than another but I do love the constitution. I think it is pretty damn good. I don't think it's perfect. lol
Nothing's perfect.
Believing it's perfect seems like an unwarranted dogma in the face of years of brilliant articulation from different constitutional scholars juxtaposed, as well as the writers.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well u have to admit that there line of thinking and there principles that they laid down for us has brought us very far. We have become the most wealthiest nation in the world, the worlds top economic and military super power. What more can u ask for? lol. Well i do think there were some things that were added to the Constitution that were unconstitutional such as the 18th amendment which outlawed alcohol and things of that nature was dumb. Also, i think the 14th amendment was unconstitutional
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Yep. Those motherfuckers tried to amend the constitution for their social agenda. Fucking nazis. I know. That's the kind of thinking that freaks me out --that people keep wanting to amend the constitution to do all sorts of shit. Leave it the fuck alone. lol
But why the 14th amendment? I was looking and the Electoral College comes to mind, but I dunno. lol
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well the constitution was never meant to limit the state govts in anyway just the federal govt. The states were left to govern themselves and make there own constitutions however, they couldnt make any laws contradicting anything in the federal constitution, according to the supremacy clause. I think the founders would have frowned on the 14th amendment. It sounds good when u read it but the U.S. Supreme Court has used the 14th amendment in unconstitutional ways in restricting states rights
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Aaah. Interesting. What Supreme Court case?
igytsiycm 2 years ago
In 1940, Cantwell v. Connecticut prohibits the states from enacting any law regarding religion from the 14th amendment thats some how tied to the establishment clause in the 1st amendment. Even after the Constitution was ratified, many states still maintained religious establishments and it was perfectly constitutional. The 1st amendment only applied to the federal govt. Even tho the 14th amendment doesnt say anything regarding religion, they say it embraces the religion clause on the states.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Ah. Thank you muchly!
igytsiycm 2 years ago
No problem buddy =]
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
To me this is an example of why the Tea Party movement was dumb. Now while I agree with just about everything the lady says to the reporter, she fails to realize that all of these people are of different motives than her own, so she CAN'T explain it and is, as a result, at a loss for words because they are bent on one phrase "Government is not the only answer!" watch?v=U1nRYw-OQ_E (cont.)
igytsiycm 2 years ago
as if it actually meant that government has no place. It's a divisive line of thinking against the actual mainstream that aren't necessarily divided on these lines. A recent Wall Street Journal poll asked a good question (sometimes the question makes the poll worth paying attention to) that the true middle that they fight over every electoral season is somewhere between libertarian and modern liberal. Remember, both have strong social views about where government should and shouldn't be involved
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Exactly, the founders were excellent on the subject of what can govt be involved in and what they cant be. Thats why i believe in our founding principles. We have crept away from those principles over the years bc of big government progressives (both republicans and democrats). We need to go back to those principles. Thats what the Tea Party movement is all about. And just bc the liberal media may pick the dumbest person out of the protest and alienate them doesnt mean everybody else is dumb.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Look at me, im apart of the Tea Party movement and i know a hell of alot more than most of the Tea Party ppl on TV. If i was on Chris Matthews' show, i would destroy him. I know i would. And u can bet the liberal media especially MSNBC does that bc they all have an agenda. And thats to promote Obama as much as they can and push for the left-wing agenda like single payer health care, miranda rights for terrorists, cap and trade and so forth.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
I don't think those numbers are right, by the way. It's sounds pretty inflated. The CDS market crash was estimated to cost the world something like 1 to 4 times the US GDP so the idea that 43% of the budget is Social Security programs etc. Also we do pay less taxes than socialist countries which provide more social services. In their experience, some are forced efficient by limited budgets. We've been fuckin' with SS and MediCare for awhile now and it's getting stupid, but you could be right.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well, i just checked my numbers, and i was wrong. Those numbers i gave u were from the 2006 federal budget. Transfer payments were actually 53% of the federal budget in 2008. Social Security was 21%, Medicare and Medicaid was 23% and other mandatory payments were 10%. Defense in case your wondering was 21%. So half the budget is consumed by entitlement programs and the dems wanna add the mother of all entitlement programs to the list. (keep in mind all of this is unconstitutional).
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
I wasn't arguing that it's inherently constitutional, but that they are elected officials, of a supposed representative government, who in the legislature write laws. Also it's sad how people try to use the constitution against the people. As if the founders would care none at all about the poor or medical insurance monopolies of today. What's the point of ideologically sticking your guns when the fact is, some people who happen to be your countrymen, can't defend themselves against cancer.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
There are other solutions besides govt though regarding health care. There are over 1,300 insurance companies in the U.S., but not all of them compete with each other, they only compete within state lines. If we were to open up competition nation-wide, costs will go down. Also, no federal premium taxes or anything like that bc the more u tax them, the higher that drives up costs for consumers. The founders would be for free-market solutions not govt solutions. Adam Smith was a genius.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
But the dems AREN'T trying to add the mother of all entitlement programs (which WOULD BE universal health care). They are barely doing anything but bowing to special interests and cutting a few of the bits off the ends for the poor, like making it to where you cannot deny someone coverage. I don't have a particular ideology that requires me to justify letting a bunch of people die because they can't afford HC. I'm not any kind of absolutist like that. It would just be ridiculous.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
By the way, how dare you force me to have to defend democrats. lol
That said, they are totally bowing to the insurance companies, always have, and always will.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Well u have to realize that the dems' real plan is too eventually have a universal health care system. Think about it they say they wanna lower premiums but then they add a federal premium tax on all insurers which will cause the insurers to raise costs. Then in addition to doing that they make the public option available to all, but private insurers are still restricted from crossing state lines. There restricting commerce among the states and manipulating the markets to do away w/ the insurers
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
OK, well, I think you're making a leap because it sounds like you almost think these dems aren't corporate, and aren't paid by insurance companies. The progressive thought I've seen prevalent is to shrink their hold on the market so they can't threaten to dump costs on the consumer, because mainly, if they don't then the system will always be slanted against people like me who can't afford insurance and have massive debts even socialist countries wouldn't allow to occur on their people.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Regarding socialism, it is not meant to help ppl, its all about more power for the govt and less for the ppl. Remember, the goal of socialism is communism. In regards to health care, ppl like u can be helped if the fed govt would lift restrictions on the insurers and let them compete across state lines. The free-market has shown to produce the cheapest and best products on the market. Also, the progressives in Congress dont care about u or me, only themselves. Trust me on what i said before
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
It's just too sweeping a statement that the goal of socialism is communism. Socialism refers to a particular kind of governance as for providing social services, communism is dictatorial in that the government has all the power. Some things are socialized whether you like it or not, so long as you have taxes to pay for them, they are socialized.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Check out the German HC system. The Bismarck system is a good example of how private hospitals and private doctors can still make buttloads of money and be basically subsidized by the government, and they spend less money than we do per-capita on HC and they have more coverage for all people, without having to be able to pay a bill every year or month, unlike here where we pay MORE and 47 million of us have no coverage at all.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
By the way in Germany, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, UK, Australia, you'd be surprised at how many people aren't actually dying in the streets from their "radical socialist governments". You sound like you're extremely invested in a particular political ideology, you say you're "Conservative." I personally don't share a party. I think there's a lot of divisive non-sense coming out of political holes on a daily basis, and yet critical thinking, and rational problem solving are not applied.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
I've come to rely on the articles behind the news. CNN writes good articles, NBC, CBS, but also AP, Washington Times, etc. because the media has just been flooded with political bias for so long, the divisive and superficial way that they approach things, it's as if they are relying only, anymore, on the viewership of fucktards who bow to their own text polls.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
I don't see how anyone could miss such an astute observation in the face of years of experience with the mainstream media. If you really watch all news shows, unless you're a complete fucking moron, you know that Faux Nooze is retardedly bias.
Keyword here in the vid, he says "Straight Moderator", because traditionally in news they're supposed to be "straight" but hardly any of them on any of the channels are, anymore, at least in any effective way, and Faux is THE worst, and this is a small exp
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Liberal Viewer, i would take u seriously if u posted videos on other networks like MSNBC or CNN but since u dont, YOUR THE BIASED ONE! I also seen another video u posted before saying that u dont see bias on MSNBC. Now we all know there numbers are tanking because of the fact they are the most biased network out there. But bc MSNBC fits YOUR point of view and confirms your ideology u dont post videos on them at all. So before u accuse another network of being biased, u might wanna check yourself
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
MSNBC is the most biased news out there? Now, while I do watch it quite a bit, I have to say that MSNBC by comparison to the others is more 50/50. From Willie Geist, through what seems like 5 hours of Scarborough, Andrea Mitchell (she's married to Alan Greenspan and not too liberal. I've seen her argue against libs a lot. She's been around a LONG time), and then the libertarian had his own two hours. They rotate. Fox is blatantly neo-con. They aren't sweeping true conservatives. They're neo-con.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
MSNBC is more 50/50? Did u see them mock the tea party protests? Did u see all of Olbermann's rants on George W. Bush? Did u see all the attacks on Sarah Palin from ppl like Matthews, Olbermann, Shultz and Maddow? Olbermann went as was far as to make up stories like that she "plagiarized" a speech from Newt Gingrich when it was actually clever video editing by Olbermann. Also did u see the Media Research Center's stats on who was more fair in the 2008 election? U might wanna go and look at it.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Yeah, you're just ignoring the fact that it's only in prime-time MSNBC, and that it doesn't actually exist anywhere else. CNN doesn't do it. And you're ignoring that MSNBC switched in prime-time back around 2005-2006 around Katrina, just like CNN kinda did, because Bushes polls were at an all-time low. Also ignoring the fact that until they started Maddows and Shultz, Olbermann was just one guy, and the only one saying anything against the admin. regularly, for years.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Also ignoring the fact that CNN regularly has similar 3-ways, but they mix it up too. A lot of CNNs people are clearly conservative, although maybe not neo-cons. It's not an issue where you have two major ideologies in conflict. You have conservatives taking a backseat to radical Tea Partytards and neo-cons, v. a somewhat 50/50 media, going con and lib, with MSNBC having a couple of outspoken libs, almost counterbalances Faux Nooze.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
It exist everywhere, ill give u an example. They showed a clips of a man with an AR-15 at a place where Obama was speaking. They tried to spin it that it was white racist tea party ppl, WHEN THEY FAILED TO SAY THAT IT WAS A BLACK MAN WITH AN AR-15. THEY CROPPED THE VIDEO SO U COULDNT SEE THE GUYS COLOR. This was one of there morning "news" shows too. And the reason why u have the view that tea party ppl are "retards" is bc u watch MSNBC who dishonestly demeans them as a just demonstrated.
bRizzle2009100 2 years ago
Uhm... Wow. I watched him on MSNBC and clearly saw that he was a black man. I don't remember anyone ever saying it was white racism, but it sounds like something Al Sharpton would say or make up. Maybe someone said that but I don't know how that reflects on MSNBC as a whole because AGAIN, they aren't ALL liberals, unlike at Faux Nooze where all the anchors are neo-cons or Christards and kooks of another sort.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
Are you sure you weren't victim to a hoax? And I don't think everyone gives a shit what Keith Olbermann thinks like you seem to be implying. He's just some dude. Imagine a channel dedicated to Olbermann. That was Faux for Bush for 8 years straight without a doubt. Every now and then they'd say something opposed to keep it fresh and then turn and deny it whenever they could, and rely on people like you to justify their bias, which is again, missing the point entirely.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
I don't think there's any excuse for ideological bias to skew the issues in favor of some politicians' coffers if you're going to call yourself a journalist. It's immoral. Period.
Also Keith Olbermann, like Bill O'Reilly, like Lou Dobbs was, are commentators. And that's all any Faux Nooze anchor could possibly qualify for at all. Not Journalists, yet their motto is "Fair and Balanced." Ironic, but they don't care because they ARE playing to a certainly political view point, blatantly.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
The reason I think they're retarded is because they are. By in large I'm a disillusioned individualist. I live in a community. I've defended them in some instances, but for the most part they are wackos, protesting in favor of corporatism indirectly, whether they realize it or not. What they are saying is: "If we raise taxes, the big bad corporation will take mah jerbs!" like the slave mentality to greed, as opposed to wanting HC for children, they'd rather if you can't make it, you should die.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
By the way, how could you take a side when the fact is that neither is correctly justified in being bias toward a political spectrum, and it's a total crime against journalism, not to mention the people's right to their airwaves and having at least a somewhat educational or positive experience in dealing with the issues of the day? The fact is journalism is dying in TV right now and instead of being mad, you'd rather say "MSNBC does it, that justifies it!" when Faux Nooze has been for a decade.
igytsiycm 2 years ago
I see that prime-time has the liberal swing on MSNBC but it doesn't exist anywhere else and if you remember MSNBC BEFORE 2006, it wasn't very liberal at all with Scarborough and Tucker Carlson having domination over prime-time, competing against Olbermann. CNN, MSNBC, Faux Nooze, they all are bias toward superficiality and sensationalism, but a reasonable person cannot deny the fact that they are an affront to true Journalism, if indeed they are a symptom and result of an entirely diseased media
igytsiycm 2 years ago
"some ppl say"
Muzztein 2 years ago
wow u said his name very well
mahyarmohaghegh 2 years ago
Maybe if he was treat as a enemy combatant in a military court he would talk , who knows cuz' we had terrorist in Guantanamo that weren't interrogate for more than 3 years and so on. what we need to do is be smart threat him with the death penal and scare the crap out him and sit with the lawyer and remind her she is American that go and make him talk again...
dominican2911 2 years ago
dominican2911:Why would someone ready to blow themselves up be afraid of the death penalty?
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
all of you that want him to be water boarding are pretty wrong ..Why cuz' we did that in the last administration and 95%of confections were fake just to stop the pain and the torture...
dominican2911 2 years ago
MSNBC does the same thing
MrSpikeowns 2 years ago
should of beaten him for information then executed him as a"citizen" would be executed...cheers :)
utubeismylastresort 2 years ago
1. Biases are notoriously hard to eliminate, thus this situation is really not surprising given the fact that Faux news makes no effort to remain neutral.
2. No, I don't think that any intellegent person who has been invited should turn them down; the simple fact is that they have a huge audience. The tactic should be to remain ruthlessly honest in one's opinions of faux and the topics discussed. Christopher Hitchens' many appearances should serve as a guide for how to deal with these morons.
starguts 2 years ago
I can't watch Foxnews, at all. Every time I do I get so angry I begin to feel sick. One thing thats always drove me mad was seeing an unfair situation and not being able to do anything about it. What makes it worse is knowing people watch this channel with no irony and totally agree. What does that say about people in this country?
EclecticNerd 2 years ago
Because he loves his kid ans has her participate in his work? If he was a conservative, he'd just ignore the kid!
darrenmuse 2 years ago
It's better to be a liberal who is childlike with love and compassion, than a conservative who is childish with hate and fear.
smedleylt 2 years ago 3
anybody who cites rasmussen with ridiculous polls like that needs to be smacked upside the head. what kind of a question is that? "should waterboarding be used to gain information from the suspected bomber?" why even add that last part about the bomber? its not like we're going to be waterboarding clowns and nuns... obviously, we would waterboard the terrorists. but when you add words like that in a poll question, people will obviously lean over to a certain side. its a very common tactic.
GstateBALLER925 2 years ago 3
You should be waterboarded clown
bush1tman 2 years ago
What are you in 5th grade?
darrenmuse 2 years ago
You're scaring away the fish. Take off dummy. I'm trying to get gstate to go off.
bush1tman 2 years ago
Rasmussen polling used to be downplayed as a joke in the industry, but in the past two years, it's been received as gospel by Conservative idiots who think that there can be some form of bias in the tonal quality of the questioner. You see how stupid Rasmussen polling is in the questions it asks: "Should waterboarding be used..." Really?! Give me a break!
darrenmuse 2 years ago
Here, here is a break.
bush1tman 2 years ago
very well illustrated LV. Yes, the bias is clear even in a apparently balanced 3-way.
OriMeissa 2 years ago
"Civil Libertarian" Civil coming from the word "civis",meaning "citizen" Is this scumbag a citizen?I really can't believe you miss so MANY points here.1)What "leverage does a plea bargain have " for a guy who was going to blow himself up ? 2)Obama,sensing the ineptitude and weakness everyone's seeing here,made a point of saying"We're at War with Al Queda";of course,if we're at war,why does the enemy soldier get a lawyer?You interrogate the enemy for info.you don't let him lawyer up.
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
First of all, if you don't think the guy was interrogated something fierce, then you're an idiot! Secondly, the man was captured on American soil. He was subdued as a threat and therefore subject to rules of due process, as per the Constitution.
darrenmuse 2 years ago
Neither You nor I know how fiercely he was interrogated;the bottom line is he has stopped talking;because instead of him being an enemy soldier,he is a criminal suspect.;and,considering he was a zealot willing to blow himself up,I seriously doubt that the Government has any leverage whatsoever;;so if there are 10 more guys out there with a similar plan,or anything else brewing,we don;know.This War is diferent fromk previous wars;in this war ,information is everything.
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
Again, you're really stupid if you think nothing was gotten out of the guy. They didn't give him a lawyer to "lawyer up" with before interrogating him. He was a small-time player without much actionable intelligence, or he'd STILL be awaiting pain killing drugs! I don't know why you think our government is full of Boy Scouts, but you're a real moron if you think the guy wasn't bashed a few dozen times just for the sake of intelligence and revenge! There's many examples of this happening before.
darrenmuse 2 years ago
darrenmuseYou are stating facts you have no knowledge if.You have insulted me becaude I disagreed with you;This makes you a blowhard,a fool,uncouth,and probably just another Liberal Bedwetter.
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
Again, there are VAST instances of people being interrogated with very harsh techniques for FAR less than this. Do you disagree? So the fact that you just assume that this guy is getting a handjob from a big titted nurse while eating Prime Rib proves that you're an idiot! The guy isn't getting a pass, he's just not being forced into a naked butt pyramid like what would happen during the last administration! Just chill the fuck out and let justice run its course!
darrenmuse 2 years ago
dsrrenmuse:Again,you Lib pussy,it's about information,not Justice;.Sorry;I tried being civil but you just don't play that way,I guess.
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
You're right! I imagine we didn't get anything from the guy. You're a dolt! Take your head out of your ass! Just because Fox News hasn't reported on information gotten from the guy doesn't mean that interrogators didn't get anything from him! And SHOCKING you say "it's not about Justice" too! It's never about Justice, just vengeance and revenge, huh? Which is why the American people chose an administration opposite from the past one!
darrenmuse 2 years ago
darrenmuse:If you are saying treating this suspect as a criminal defendant,with a lawyer telling him to clam up,is a more effectiveway to get info than treating him as an enemy combatant and REALLY LEANING ON HIM ,then you're either lying or you have the intelligence of Cheeze Whiz.He's an attempted suicide bomber;he was going to kill himself;you think the government has leverage to make him talk?
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
And what makes you think that a military interrogator is going to get any more from this guy through means of torture?I mean I can't think think of a more painful way to go than to strap a bunch of explosives to your chest.
Let's just ignore all the professionals in interrogation that tell you torture dosen't work.Relatively ineffective to other means.But you're not really concerned about that are you?You just want to hurt someone the truth is secondary.
gamesmaster35 2 years ago
gamesmaster:When did I use the word torture?but,obviously,a military guy would get more informatio than is presently the case because the guy has lawyered up and isn't talking at all.;and I don't see the government having a lot of leverage .
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
If you think we got as much information from this guy treating him as a "suspect" and giving him a lawyer as we would have treating him as an enemy combatant,then you have the i.q. of cheezewizz;that said,Obama has the right to go either way,but he shouldn't insult Americans' intelligence;he should honestly state that he thinks treating these scumbags as regular criminals is better pr to the rest of the world and he considers it more important than getting the info needed."
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
3:27
What would Jesus Do?
No, seriously.
mrfoxtalbot 2 years ago
Beforehand, please pardon my poor English.
Comment:
I usualy agree 100% with your videos but, horrified as I am by the content of this one, I think the discussion here is broader and deeper.
I´d point at that the "not being a US cityzen and thereby not having the right to a public speedy trial with formal charges and a lawyer" approach is appalling yet reasonably defendable. Is the 6th ammendment a human right?
Also, waterboarding being discussed so casualy makes me phisycally sick.
mrfoxtalbot 2 years ago 2
Yes. No. If no one will go, Fox will report that everyone on the left was afraid to appear. I love how these people want to put so much power into the hands of the executive and yet scream about fascism.
newdarnaccount 2 years ago
Fox news 3-way?
Bow chicka wow wow
WashingMachine0 2 years ago
I am conservative and enjoy Fox more than CNN or MSNBC, but you do make a good point here.
I think your observation of this exchange is correct and I'll be looking out for that on all networks.
Temple420org 2 years ago
Yes I definitely think that civil libertarians, democrats etc should refuse to appear on the new Fox Three Way featured program. They should appear on Chris Matthews instead. Chris fires staccato questions at his republican guests without letting them answer at all. Especially when he is drunk. What do you call an MSNBC one way? (think ,think!) Correct ! Masturbation.
bush1tman 2 years ago
That's foxx news for ya, fixed and unbalanced!
elalzu 2 years ago
Not surprising. Depressing. Annoying. But not surprising.
Thanks for uploading.
LittleLexLemon 2 years ago
I object to liberalviewer calling that show "fox news". It clearly has only a rudimentary resemblance to a news show. Sort of how a merry go round horse is supposed to be a horse. It looks similar but upon closer inspection it is made of wood and only goes in circles.
Saromatae 2 years ago
Forget interrogation!, this terrorist should have been shot.
armyvet1977 2 years ago
Reading through these leftest comments is hilarious.
It's a reminder of the type of men that entitlements create. It's like they're locked in time as little children. They failed to ever make the connection between their own lives, creativity, and labors, so thus never grew into manhood.
They're like eternal children, feeding at the government trough, insulting anyone that dares question the quality of the swill.
Enjoy your slops pig boys. I choose life.
FreedomsReigning 2 years ago
:D Coming to theaters this summer:
REPUBLITARD II: RHETORIC HARDER
"In a world full of people that understand how politics work, one man rises up to make a fool out of himself..."
DiggidyFry 2 years ago
@gmcjetpilot
why do you insist that everyone arguing against you is gay?
noarrogance1432 2 years ago
No it does not represent all that Canada is, just like Germany doesnt represent all that Austria is. Though the two countries are so similar to us that we could hardly really spot the differences, they are still there; there are certian aspects of Canada that America in general still does not possess. Our culture is very similar but we are different, for one we dont have that kick ass revolutionary past! The one thing i disagree with though is that America is not all that the free world is.
SleepsAvatar 2 years ago
Sorry ran out of characters- Most countries claim to be free but many of them are not, Canada and America included, now we have it way better then most places, but we are still not free enough to do whatever we want, that does not harm another pereson. What we need my friend is another revolution, as Thomas Jefferson said Every generation needs a new revolution And both countries are sorely lacking in it. We have almost become apathitic to the way our government treats its citizens ;( VIVA LA
SleepsAvatar 2 years ago
REVOLUTION!
SleepsAvatar 2 years ago
@sleepsavatar
i am quite unsure what dawned on you to write that out of the blue.
noarrogance1432 2 years ago
Usually in my day to day life i just say things, not really without thinking about what i say, but what kind of reaction i am going to get, usually i want a shake your head laughing what the fuck is that guy talking about kind of reaction so that why i decided to write that ;) ha
SleepsAvatar 2 years ago
Oh fox you make it so easy lol on the three way quips.
harr77 2 years ago
I think that for a fox anchor to bring someone on and ask them unfair and biased questions can be a bad thing, should the person being asked have the knowledge and wisdom to put out strong enough answers, even fox news could be used as a liberal front.
talrashajj 2 years ago
OMG - best opening line to any video on your channel. once again, thanks, LiberalViewer!
mkushnir 2 years ago
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apocalipsis82 2 years ago
Being that Fox News isn't a real news organization...yes anyone on the left should do whatever they can to avoid Fox News altogether to escape from these situations.
I mean if they want a real interview they should go on the Daily Show with John Stewart. :P
afterhumanity333 2 years ago 2
'Liberal Viewer Presents' kids balls are gonna drop soon
mrjammerz 2 years ago
His dughter's balls?
Loganstanners 2 years ago
ooops... thought it was a boy! Man do i feel like a fool
mrjammerz 2 years ago
That's the problem with young kids, male and female sound almost exactly the same.
BusinessIDBAI 2 years ago
@mrjammerz that's a little girl, funny man. fail.
hollaboutit 2 years ago
How much fox do you watch during the day!??!?!
burkas80 2 years ago
I don't think FOX goes far enough to trash and stomp these liberal SCUM into to mud like the filthy anti-american vermin they are.
if you want to see blatant bias watch some David Shuster over at MSNBCrap. that liberal fucktard should be fired.
I HATE LIBERALS!
friction00815 2 years ago
good to see you diversifying Friction youngturks dont get your troll boner hard anymore?
naliuj 2 years ago
Is it just me or does it seem like Fox's bias is getting more refined/sophisticated over the last few months?
Maybe I'm missing some shows, but in general I'm seeing less "shout down the leftist" and more 'subtle' techniques like:
Using a poll to fuel questions of bias (ie, this poll came out, so why shouldn't we ask questions about it);
Keeping the assumptions quiet (and again, subtle), constantly saying that waterboarding is something that "some people regard as torture."
bushonomics 2 years ago
excellent vidieo!! (as always). enjoyed the bit abouth the questions being longer than the answers. very subtle bias, yet still very functional
robertoandrade113 2 years ago
MSNBC: just another right wing news outlet in the USA
maxine2win 2 years ago
Yes!!! FOX is biased. Where is the debate of Bin Laden's statements to prove to the world he is full of sht by the FOX geniuses? Nobody translated for the public other than a few independent people who couldn't get any prime time news coverage including MSNBC and CNN.
Of course it is bias just like MSNBC whose parent company is GE who is one of the weapons contractors making a profit off the wars while bankrupting our country to do it. MSNBC has more token Liberals than FOX.
JKEJulian 2 years ago
I love the way they show the poll as if the public opinion actually matters whatsoever. So a bunch of stupid fox news watching christians think he should be waterboarded. And? It's not their call, as they've no proffessional basis of experience whatsoever when it comes to a decision like that.
Waterboarding or any torture isn't even reliable anyway. People will confess to anything if they're under great duress, so what the fuck would the point be? It wouldn't help garner any new information.
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
No one ever points out three things:
First, the repeated assumption that "treating the suspect as an enemy combatant" (read: torture him) would produce reliable information.
Second, after WWII, we allowed the Nazi's to "lawyer up" and put them on trial (Nuremberg). But today, we need to abandon our principles and "torture" every suspect for our intelligence because "we are at war".
Third, if you are relying on the criminal for your intel, you've already failed.
BI30 2 years ago 4
Cops rely on criminals all the time for "intel". It's called plea bargaining. And it's better than waterboarding.
There was nothing much "principled" about Nuremburg.
I never liked enemy combatant. I always liked prisoner of war better to describe captured enemies.
bush1tman 2 years ago
Sounds like your daughter is getting a little older. God bless liberalism !!!
coffee396 2 years ago
I thought that was a boy :p
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
can i just say as someone from a different country i can't believe how biased fox news is and i can't believe that it is allowed to get away with it
ThePatch123 2 years ago 2