Beautiful , Lush , magical music . This piece definitely has elements of ; Somewhere in Time , Dances with Wolves , Out of Africa , Born Free , unmistakably from John Barry !!
@DWMF Check the video of Hugo van Lawick's funeral at his tent in the Serengeti - the music is The Beyondness of Things and so appropriate as I'm sure you will agree
Absolutely sublime. My Groundhog Day would be to pilot a Spitfire over England on a blue sky summer's day, whilst listening to this stunning piece of music. It might just be able to stand upto the 'music' of the Rolls Royce Merlin on an equal footing! John Barry=GENIUS.
Someday when my soul gets to see the whole universe out there, when all the beauty of the vast universes are revealed to me, THIS WILL BE THE MUSIC while I am at awe with the beauty of HIS creation. Beautiful music like this reaches the soul. Thank you.
@BalinSilay Aw...that's so nice. 'When my soul gets to see the whole universe' Wouldn't it be lovely if that was the truth? And this music affected you so much, you felt the need to share this with people. Well, I've been around the block a bit, and people often say "what's the meaning to life?" Now I say..."Experience" I think that life is experiencing, well, 'things' that whatever it is that runs the place, can't experience for itself. Well, that's my theory, and I'm sticking with it!
This was a beautiful piece of music. I will always associate it with a UTV documentary I watched on the Titanic and its builder, Thomas Andrews; 'Titanic, Built in Belfast'
my utmost respect to you John Barry, you had a way of writing astounding melodies that made utter sense to me - I will be forever touched by your music sir. Thank you for it. Rest in peace.
It is a wonderful piece of music full of melody and emotion. I used it in a play in 2003 and the only question from the audience was, 'Who wrote that?" RIP John Barry. You are beyond us all now. Many blessings Sir.
I am truly saddened to learn of John's passing. My heart goes out to his dear family and friends. May you and we who loved and admired him, find peace in the gifts of Light and Beautiful music that he gave to us. These will remain with us always, as will his dear spirit within our hearts. Most sincerely with my deepest respect and Love. Maricet
I am truly saddened to learn of John's passing. My heart goes out to his dear family and friends. May you and we who loved and admired him, find peace in the gifts of Light and Beautiful music that he gave to us. These will remain with us always, as will his dear spirit within our hearts. Most sincerely with my deepest respect and Love. Maricet
JB was actually signed-up to 'The Incredibles', but walked off the project early doors. Sadly that's been the case for a number of films before and since
Thank you ever so much for posting this. Your choice of pictures and music are perfect. I have just sat here, watched and listened. Thoroughly enjoyed the show.
Profoundly beautiful~Thank You for this moving piece!!!
@zeekwolfe Perhaps they've strayed far from the beauty of the classical. There is movement and timing in this work, everyone now is in a hurry for the climax.
So beautiful and pleasing to the ear. This type of music was so popular in the 70's I don't know where it went. Thanks to YouTube we can listen to it again. Great job dingorex your video and the music it's wonderful! You got some pretty interesting conversation and smart people going here . We all share one thing in common we all enjoy John Barry's incredible music. So thank you!
its wonderful!! it reminds me about the beauty of life and living, the great connexion we must have with this misterious and complex universe the greatness if everything... its more than beautiful!!!
This sountrack for example, is much similar to music of King Kong '76. Incredible sentimentally, care. Pure gold translate in music. Umbilivable, only umbilivable...
When I am asked what my favourite piece of music is, I reply, "Oh I can't remember its name. Its by John Barry. Something of things. The word I can't remember is one he made up, and its meaning is that of infinity. Something-ing? Look on google for me. Put John Barry of and things into Google. Beyondness of things! Thats the one."
i also think the music from composers of movie soundtracks are the true geniuses of our time. Jean Ives -Thibaudet, Rachel Portman, Alan Silverstri, Christophre Beck...
I believe that this kind of music has actually evolved out of the best classical music and in someways surpasses the music of the great composer...
Can someone explain to me in a lucid and convincing way why "young, modern, composers" are unable to write beautiful and melodic music. I recently a attended a concert at a major university. The audience actually booed and hissed the work of a young many billed as a "genius" and "up and coming" in the music world. Members of the orchestra and the player of a large pipe organ seemed embarrassed. I demanded and received my money back. There were others, too.
@zeekwolfe I think some if not most can, it's just that everyone nowadays is scared sh*tless of writing some real music. Mainly because of the politically correct and braindead masses who control the media slagging them off. It's like you can't go to see a Shakespeare play that is performed as Sakespeare intended, it has to be in a modern setting. etc.
@zeekwolfe i agree. i was actually at a performance where the song had like 5 harps, a large percussion section, and 6 trombones. needless the say the song was terrible. a lot of modern composers thing being atonal is hip, creative and genius. they have the realize that its not unique, but crap. i think too many composers are trying to be beethoven by trying to come up with these random ideas. maybe in 50 years that music will be seen as the new style, but not now.
@zeekwolfe Easy....cos composers like John Barry are of old school musicians. They're in touch with nostalgias of yesteryears. Music of such eras are synonymous with epic films and the latter being as such usually brought out the nostalgic emotions of those veteran composers such as Barry. Composers these days are most attuned to the uptrend markets of today, namely the youths. So it's not surprising that young composers these days have a rather "upbeat" approach to their scoring and music.
@rudyhamzah In December I attended a Christmas concert. The arrangers couldn't fool around with the secular music because of copy write laws, but the Christian music they butchered. For example, the song "In the Bleak Mid-Winter" was dissonant and discordant sounds were nade by an out of tune choir. It was awful and the comments in the parking lot were withering. So much for "upbeat."
@zeekwolfe Certainly, as a young composer myself, who's trying to fight that very pattern your talking about.
Lack of musical training (harmony, orchestration, counter point, and regular music theory) is one thing (whether auto-didactically learnt or formally educated, it doesn't matter - it still counts), the rejection of writing with manuscript paper for Finale/Sibelius, MIDI sequencers and sample libraries, and a lack of inspiration from the past.
@RogueRotting360 I do not have formal musical training, but I know what I like. I'm still trying to get over "In the Bleak Mid-Winter" of last December. A large audience was expecting the familiar melody, yet the music we heard was ugly and unharmonic. The applause...tepid. What possesses arrangers and conductors to air such rubbish? They would not butcher Wagner or Puccini. What is their point in altering other works?
@zeekwolfe I really can't say. I know the carol pretty well, though since I haven't heard of this adaptation, I'd rather not say. I greatly respect 20th modernists, I'm personally influenced by Debussy, Stravinsky, Berg, Scriabin, Shostakovich, Schoenberg, Webern, Messiaen, but I personally personally can't stand the post-modernists, which is what this work you're talking about, most likely is.
I personally will appreciate for its rich harmonies and orchestration, even if there are no themes.
@zeekwolfe What a disgusting thing to do. To boo someone on stage. It is so extremely childish. Unless someone is being overtly offensive you should never act like an animal and demean someone like that.
@keartan At the end of his career, the great Luciano Pavarotti was whistled and jeered at La Scala in Milan when he couldn't hit and maintain a high note in La Boheme. Many others have suffered his fate. The young, up-and-coming "genius" will remember the boos and catcalls of his debut concert and...the give-backs at the box office. He'll write better music next time or change his career.
@keartan I know. I don't understand how you could boo someone on stage. Maybe in a bar where you are wasted out of your mind and the music isn't why you're there. But in a concert, where you pay to listen to people you assumedly respect? I don't get people...
@zeekwolfe A fair point, but remember in ther day, Beethoven, Mozart and Stravinsky among others were all booed and hissed (and look at them now)
I agree with you that lots of 'modern music' is absolutely ghastly, but alot of the time, it is the newness of it, and the move away from conventionalism, which is frightening to audience and which elicits such a negative response. That said, I will take beautiful and melodic any day!
@mtheadedwally I am not a musicologist, but I believe that music began to change into a more modern form in about 1770. An analogy would be modern film making. Movies before 1939 look archaic, after 1939 they look modern. No entrepenure in his right mind would try to fill the Hollywood Bowl with a concert by 'young, modern composers' conducting atonal rubbish. Modern music as now taught sounds like cats on a fence at 2 AM. Since when did anyone boo Mozart
@zeekwolfe Ok, not booing as such, however he did recieve some terrible reviews: "too strongly spiced"; "impenetrable labyrinths"; "bizarre flights of the soul"; "overloaded and overstuffed".
There is a neat little article here: guardian.co.uk/music/2004/jun/04/classicalmusicandopera
Incidentally, I do agree with you - 'modern music' of the 'young kool skool' is generally terrible. However, it is worth noting that some of these dreadful works may one daybe regarded as classics!
@RogueRotting360 And young, modern composers will continue to explore the atonal world of flipping burgers at Jack in the Box. I invite you to review the summer programs of the Hollywood Bowl or other regional summer music scenes in SoCal. Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music, the product of the untalented as taught be bearded eggheads out of touch with reality. Beautiful music...hmm...they sneer because they can't write it themselves..
@zeekwolfe "And young, modern composers will continue to explore the atonal world of flipping burgers at Jack in the Box."
Sorry, could you explain to me this piece of imagery, or are you referring to an actual piece of modern repertoire?
"Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music"
They're loss. On the whole, the public would rather listen to X Factor contestants, Miley Cyrus or Lady Gaga, over any classical opus, tonal or atonal.
@zeekwolfe "Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music"
The public would rather listen to the exalted likes of Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus or various X Factor contestants over any classical piece, tonal or atonal. Obviously you can't appreciate the beauty of ethereal atonality or 20th century expressionism. Your loss.
"the product of the untalented"
Clearly you have no clue on what talent is, if you think it's only constricted to accessible, pleasing, tonal music.
@RogueRotting360 I think you should confine yourself to dedgeridoo music...all two notes...with a joint to help you make sense. And then through the smokey haze tell your friends "...yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, this stuff is good." I'm sorry, Tops in So Cal don't understand the ethereal. The more bread we have, the more notes and melody we have in our music.
@RogueRotting360 Final word...thank you for the knowledgeable discussion of things musical and...especially...non-use of the obscene word for human sexual intercourse. What a nice surprise to find a person on YouTube who does not use the "F" word as an adjective or even a transitive verb. Take care!
@zeekwolfe You know what? I think we agree a lot more than you and I thought. The music you describe at the concert doesn't sound like my cup of tea either. Do you know the name of composer or the piece? I might check it out to see if it's as bad as you say.
@zeekwolfe "As taught be bearded eggheads out of touch with reality."
You seem more out of touch with reality if you only can only appreciate "beautiful, melodic music." Seems more like the haughty arrogance of a musically ignorant listener, with highly circumscribed tastes.
"Beautiful music...hmm...they sneer because they can't write it themselves.. "
Oh they can all right. Take the music of atonal composer and film composer Leonard Rosenman, who wrote both atonal AND exquisite tonal music.
As much as Barry is a hero to me, 'modern' films and their scores now seem to demand a more subtle and less lyrical/thematic approach. Maybe this is one reason.
@0FindGlory Modern films are aimed at teenagers. Music to them comes out of a video game or the stuff on FM radio. Get this: A movie was recently released by the name of "Twilight." I'm not sure what it's about, but I hope the owners make some money. A local 16 year old girl had deeply tatooed on her arm the word "TWILIGHT," and then waited in a long line with a new lifetime scar/mark for a soon forgettable movie. Music is now written for these children and that's why it's so bad.
@zeekwolfe i think a lot of composers feel they have to be daring and progressive as young composers to get attention instead of just being truthful to their own intentions. And I think that idea is maybe self perpetuated? On the other hand a lot of discordant or atonal music can be great. If art makes you feel something (even anger) it can only be a good thing.
@bumblebert Thank you for your wise and point-well-taken reply. This topic interests me and your comments are a welcome relief from some of the private and highly critical e-mails I have received. But how does one apply your comments to Country Music? That genre in time past featured wordsmith lyricists and music writers of great ability. Simple and beautiful melodies are now from the "golden oldie" period, 1980's and earlier. Today? Forgettable songs by sound-alike men singers.
@hyperballadry Sorry, have to disagree. Just been listening to John Hopkins. It's muzak. I have no problem with electronic music but the drum beats on almost every track just cheapen it, and make it very repetitive. John Barry never had to resort to automated drums.
@zeekwolfe Hi, i am a composer of more classical style and I perform many modern composers work on a weekly basis. The musicians are by and large really pissed off with the state of the majority of modern music these days, but it's the 'in' thing, and most critics can't comprehend the music so mostly they say it is genius. It is so much easier to criticise a nice tune as being passe or plagiarism. Occasionally you get a brilliant modern composer come along but they are so few and far between.
@zeekwolfe As a PS I performed with John Barry conducting his music about 10 years ago. he was great. Although a lot of his music is the same dreamy style it is very successful and very descriptive of the films he wrote for. Genius!
@zeekwolfe It's the same reason why filmmakers can't produce a convincing action piece without frenetic editing, fast zooms and shaky-cam. The world is run by lawyers, focused on a quick buck and starving for talent.
i really cannot see how people dont find the universe and all of space as interesting as i do. listening to this song makes and watching this video really shows how amazing space really is.
Have only just found out what this track is called. They've played this on BBC7 a couple of times over the last two weeks around 5am in the morning as part of Cbeebies ( ??). Thank god it was John Barry or I'd never have been able to identify it! My only lead was that it sounded like John Barry so I went to amazon to play a few clips of his albums and what do you know....the first album that comes up is the beyondness of things and track 1 is this one! Very glad as this is an amazing track.
like i shared with a friend my thoughts on this piece of work - like the wind inviting the soul to dance, that transcends above time and the suffering human world. A mediative state when the soul enters into nirvana. Before entering it takes a last reluctant look at earth then enters into this universe nirvana this light which is beyond all things.
@damien9060 I like your thoughts on the meditative state. I've given instructions so that after cremation my ashes will be scattered in Death Valley. My spirit can roam that wild, beautiful and desolate place until the end of time.
I first heard this tune on a UTV (Ulster Television) documentary about Thomas Andrews; the designer of the Titanic in Belfast- it really fitted well. Ive just heard the name on the radio and typed it in- thanks for posting!
When I 1st heard this song on the radio, I missed announcer saying who/what it was but I knew it just HAD to be John Barry. The guy's an absolute genius!!
Would probably make a very good love theme for a bond flick - like the kind of shot where bond spots a love interest getting out of the water on a beach in some exotic locale.
Well the whole cd of music from TBOT is ALL rejected scores of John Barry, 6 cues are from The Horse Whisperer. HE just uses them elsewhere, when he doesn't do rewrites.
The new Bond is more a bad-ass like Connery in Dr. No. I think the 007 Theme (discontinued after Moonraker) and We Have All The Time In the World are the best. This would make a great leitmotif or love theme.
The 2nd cue and 3rd cue from TBOT and 3rd to the last song, cant remember it. Dawn Chorus, Meadow of Delight and Sadness FIT INTO THE HORSE WHISPERER!!! PERFECT FIT. I don't know what was Redford's problem, BUT he interfered with a great composer like Barry. The part where Kristen Scott Thomas tells Redford one last ride BUT gets into her car and rides off. IS the 3rd to last song on TBOT. I truly wished Redford shut his mouth. This would of been one of Barry's best scores. NOT TO BE
Geez, what's wrong with directors! Barry is one of the top composers around. You'd think with his track record filmmakers would have enough sense to trust him to create something truly brilliant. Thanks for posting, Dingorex!
The Back Story of TBOT. First off 5 to 6 cues of TBOT is really from the REJECTED score to The Horse Whisperer. Robert Redford who was the director of The Horse Whisperer hired John Barry to compose the score. He did, but Redford let got Barry after Barry told Redford HE WOULD NOT REWRITE any of the music. So da lame ass Redford got rid of Barry and hired Thomas Newman to come in. So a year later Barry comes out with TBOT and Dawn Chorus, Meadow of Delight and Sadness, The Main Theme to TBOT...
Very interesting info UFOSPACE1999. Thanks for that. Here all this time I thought 'the beyondness of things' was meant to be simply an instrumental release. I'm glad it was not associated with the 'horse whisperer' as 'Beyondness' would never have been released.
Yes, beautiful music...compliments the images perfectly... this is a place we should all throw our worries to from time to time(and allow it take care of us all more often)...The Universe...dedicated to the man I feel much love for too...Thanks dingorex..
Beautiful , Lush , magical music . This piece definitely has elements of ; Somewhere in Time , Dances with Wolves , Out of Africa , Born Free , unmistakably from John Barry !!
Bing6813 2 weeks ago
I have heard this music several times on Classic FM in the UK.
It is incredibly evocative of the African plains, like the Masai Mara or the Serengeti.
Film of the African scenery and wildlife would be a better match than astronomical phenomena.
DWMF 3 weeks ago
@DWMF Check the video of Hugo van Lawick's funeral at his tent in the Serengeti - the music is The Beyondness of Things and so appropriate as I'm sure you will agree
gareth50046 2 days ago
It is so difficult to find anything I do not enjoy greatly Barry composed.
CharlotteFairchild 3 weeks ago
Absolutely sublime. My Groundhog Day would be to pilot a Spitfire over England on a blue sky summer's day, whilst listening to this stunning piece of music. It might just be able to stand upto the 'music' of the Rolls Royce Merlin on an equal footing! John Barry=GENIUS.
LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH 4 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
even with my eyes open stirring example of the multiverses beauti out of this world
urbanqueen100 1 month ago
This is just jaw droppingly beautiful!!
TheFergie1564 2 months ago
i want to live.so i can listen again
blackbahadur 2 months ago
Beautiful. John Barry was certainly one of the best contemporary composers.
Springbokke1000 2 months ago 6
I think my ears just orgasmed :)
JAYSCLASS 3 months ago
Esas notas mueven mi alma y mi corazón. Ponen en equilibrio mi mente y me hacen navegar en otra dimensión de la belleza...
mmonturiolr 3 months ago
How beautiful. What a maestro John Barry was.
scurrie42 5 months ago
Someday when my soul gets to see the whole universe out there, when all the beauty of the vast universes are revealed to me, THIS WILL BE THE MUSIC while I am at awe with the beauty of HIS creation. Beautiful music like this reaches the soul. Thank you.
BalinSilay 6 months ago
@BalinSilay Aw...that's so nice. 'When my soul gets to see the whole universe' Wouldn't it be lovely if that was the truth? And this music affected you so much, you felt the need to share this with people. Well, I've been around the block a bit, and people often say "what's the meaning to life?" Now I say..."Experience" I think that life is experiencing, well, 'things' that whatever it is that runs the place, can't experience for itself. Well, that's my theory, and I'm sticking with it!
theymusthatetesla 6 months ago
One, if not my favourite composer....R.I.P. John Barry, miss more of your masterpieces!!!
geovision 6 months ago
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JustReadings 7 months ago 2
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JustReadings 7 months ago
Masterpiece!!!music and video.
cherubijn100 7 months ago in playlist beschermengel100
captures the majesty and beauty of the universe. id want this on my headphones if i was crossing interstellar space!
bradshawvincent 7 months ago
Thanks for this. John Barry really did give us mere mortals a glimpse of eternity
misodudu 1 year ago 2
RIP John Barry. Your music will transcend the ages, long after we have all stepped forth into the great beyond
lfcjohno1 1 year ago
77 is much to young for such an eternal spirit.
dingorex 1 year ago 9
York's minstrel maestro ! JBP - RIP.
TheRobertTaggart 1 year ago
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TheRobertTaggart 1 year ago
John Barry - a genius.RIP
retroman1962 1 year ago
His best
mulattokid 1 year ago
John Barry RIP
ewaf88 1 year ago
RIP :(
Tonyblack261 1 year ago
RIP John Barry.
This was a beautiful piece of music. I will always associate it with a UTV documentary I watched on the Titanic and its builder, Thomas Andrews; 'Titanic, Built in Belfast'
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
I cant believe hes gone. Im gutted
MarkHevingham 1 year ago
@MarkHevingham I feel the same way. May he now Rest in Peace.
miragemammaries 1 year ago
my utmost respect to you John Barry, you had a way of writing astounding melodies that made utter sense to me - I will be forever touched by your music sir. Thank you for it. Rest in peace.
nickhmusica 1 year ago 2
@nickhmusica Well said, nail hit squarely on the head. What a genius JB was!
LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH 1 year ago
It is a wonderful piece of music full of melody and emotion. I used it in a play in 2003 and the only question from the audience was, 'Who wrote that?" RIP John Barry. You are beyond us all now. Many blessings Sir.
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I am truly saddened to learn of John's passing. My heart goes out to his dear family and friends. May you and we who loved and admired him, find peace in the gifts of Light and Beautiful music that he gave to us. These will remain with us always, as will his dear spirit within our hearts. Most sincerely with my deepest respect and Love. Maricet
vuenu 1 year ago
I am truly saddened to learn of John's passing. My heart goes out to his dear family and friends. May you and we who loved and admired him, find peace in the gifts of Light and Beautiful music that he gave to us. These will remain with us always, as will his dear spirit within our hearts. Most sincerely with my deepest respect and Love. Maricet
vuenu 1 year ago
Wow this is truly gifted man, such a moving theme. :)
TickleMeJewish 1 year ago
such a majestic and rolling theme, reminds me of a time of great introspection...
penumbralad 1 year ago
there are very very few composers who i have felt enriched my life and made it better John Barry is one them, thank you very much Mr. Barry.
MrDigger1969 1 year ago
such beautiful piece half way through u can hear the influences of another of john barrys
masterpiece the lion in winter i am certian he also did the music for the incredibles and the bond influences are there alright sure brilliance
MrMadmust 1 year ago 3
@MrMadmust Michael Giacchino did The Incredibles as a tribute to the 60s Bond movies. In fact the whole movie is a tribute to the Bond pictures.
dingorex 1 year ago 2
@MrMadmust Michael Giacchino did The Incredibles as a tribute to the 60s Bond movies. In fact the whole movie is a tribute to the Bond pictures.
dingorex 1 year ago
JB was actually signed-up to 'The Incredibles', but walked off the project early doors. Sadly that's been the case for a number of films before and since
m4rkver 1 year ago
This music has a timeless quality and I think people will still be listening to it for hundreds of years to come.
place910 1 year ago
Thank you ever so much for posting this. Your choice of pictures and music are perfect. I have just sat here, watched and listened. Thoroughly enjoyed the show.
Thank you again.
cosworth6nut 1 year ago
I think this composition is called 'The Beyondness of Things' but I might be wrong....
gills4thrills 1 year ago
Profoundly beautiful~Thank You for this moving piece!!!
@zeekwolfe Perhaps they've strayed far from the beauty of the classical. There is movement and timing in this work, everyone now is in a hurry for the climax.
the impetuousness of youth perhaps.
mamahenrobin 1 year ago
So beautiful and pleasing to the ear. This type of music was so popular in the 70's I don't know where it went. Thanks to YouTube we can listen to it again. Great job dingorex your video and the music it's wonderful! You got some pretty interesting conversation and smart people going here . We all share one thing in common we all enjoy John Barry's incredible music. So thank you!
minegritachula 1 year ago
John Barry is the only composer that makes me touched.
leandro00000000007 1 year ago
its wonderful!! it reminds me about the beauty of life and living, the great connexion we must have with this misterious and complex universe the greatness if everything... its more than beautiful!!!
patticopa 1 year ago
I wish the rest of this album was up, I can't believe that an album 11 years old is not on YouTube yet lol.
Grathanial 1 year ago
This sountrack for example, is much similar to music of King Kong '76. Incredible sentimentally, care. Pure gold translate in music. Umbilivable, only umbilivable...
WHITEORSE 1 year ago
When I am asked what my favourite piece of music is, I reply, "Oh I can't remember its name. Its by John Barry. Something of things. The word I can't remember is one he made up, and its meaning is that of infinity. Something-ing? Look on google for me. Put John Barry of and things into Google. Beyondness of things! Thats the one."
nicholasthetaylor 2 years ago
Fantastic piece from a great album.
There's another piece on the same album called "Kissably Close" and that's wonderful too.
Jo7welder 2 years ago
i also think the music from composers of movie soundtracks are the true geniuses of our time. Jean Ives -Thibaudet, Rachel Portman, Alan Silverstri, Christophre Beck...
I believe that this kind of music has actually evolved out of the best classical music and in someways surpasses the music of the great composer...
caromia333 2 years ago
Can someone explain to me in a lucid and convincing way why "young, modern, composers" are unable to write beautiful and melodic music. I recently a attended a concert at a major university. The audience actually booed and hissed the work of a young many billed as a "genius" and "up and coming" in the music world. Members of the orchestra and the player of a large pipe organ seemed embarrassed. I demanded and received my money back. There were others, too.
zeekwolfe 2 years ago 17
I agree. Many modern concert pieces lack the lush lyricism of Mr. Barry. The best music comes from film scores these days. Too bad John retired.
dingorex 2 years ago
@zeekwolfe I think some if not most can, it's just that everyone nowadays is scared sh*tless of writing some real music. Mainly because of the politically correct and braindead masses who control the media slagging them off. It's like you can't go to see a Shakespeare play that is performed as Sakespeare intended, it has to be in a modern setting. etc.
Apophisguard 2 years ago
@zeekwolfe i agree. i was actually at a performance where the song had like 5 harps, a large percussion section, and 6 trombones. needless the say the song was terrible. a lot of modern composers thing being atonal is hip, creative and genius. they have the realize that its not unique, but crap. i think too many composers are trying to be beethoven by trying to come up with these random ideas. maybe in 50 years that music will be seen as the new style, but not now.
SergeantMuffins 1 year ago 4
@zeekwolfe Easy....cos composers like John Barry are of old school musicians. They're in touch with nostalgias of yesteryears. Music of such eras are synonymous with epic films and the latter being as such usually brought out the nostalgic emotions of those veteran composers such as Barry. Composers these days are most attuned to the uptrend markets of today, namely the youths. So it's not surprising that young composers these days have a rather "upbeat" approach to their scoring and music.
rudyhamzah 1 year ago
@rudyhamzah In December I attended a Christmas concert. The arrangers couldn't fool around with the secular music because of copy write laws, but the Christian music they butchered. For example, the song "In the Bleak Mid-Winter" was dissonant and discordant sounds were nade by an out of tune choir. It was awful and the comments in the parking lot were withering. So much for "upbeat."
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe Certainly, as a young composer myself, who's trying to fight that very pattern your talking about.
Lack of musical training (harmony, orchestration, counter point, and regular music theory) is one thing (whether auto-didactically learnt or formally educated, it doesn't matter - it still counts), the rejection of writing with manuscript paper for Finale/Sibelius, MIDI sequencers and sample libraries, and a lack of inspiration from the past.
Film scores today aren't much better.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@RogueRotting360 I do not have formal musical training, but I know what I like. I'm still trying to get over "In the Bleak Mid-Winter" of last December. A large audience was expecting the familiar melody, yet the music we heard was ugly and unharmonic. The applause...tepid. What possesses arrangers and conductors to air such rubbish? They would not butcher Wagner or Puccini. What is their point in altering other works?
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe I really can't say. I know the carol pretty well, though since I haven't heard of this adaptation, I'd rather not say. I greatly respect 20th modernists, I'm personally influenced by Debussy, Stravinsky, Berg, Scriabin, Shostakovich, Schoenberg, Webern, Messiaen, but I personally personally can't stand the post-modernists, which is what this work you're talking about, most likely is.
I personally will appreciate for its rich harmonies and orchestration, even if there are no themes.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe What a disgusting thing to do. To boo someone on stage. It is so extremely childish. Unless someone is being overtly offensive you should never act like an animal and demean someone like that.
keartan 1 year ago
@keartan At the end of his career, the great Luciano Pavarotti was whistled and jeered at La Scala in Milan when he couldn't hit and maintain a high note in La Boheme. Many others have suffered his fate. The young, up-and-coming "genius" will remember the boos and catcalls of his debut concert and...the give-backs at the box office. He'll write better music next time or change his career.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago 14
@keartan I know. I don't understand how you could boo someone on stage. Maybe in a bar where you are wasted out of your mind and the music isn't why you're there. But in a concert, where you pay to listen to people you assumedly respect? I don't get people...
CuddleNation 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe A fair point, but remember in ther day, Beethoven, Mozart and Stravinsky among others were all booed and hissed (and look at them now)
I agree with you that lots of 'modern music' is absolutely ghastly, but alot of the time, it is the newness of it, and the move away from conventionalism, which is frightening to audience and which elicits such a negative response. That said, I will take beautiful and melodic any day!
mtheadedwally 1 year ago
@mtheadedwally I am not a musicologist, but I believe that music began to change into a more modern form in about 1770. An analogy would be modern film making. Movies before 1939 look archaic, after 1939 they look modern. No entrepenure in his right mind would try to fill the Hollywood Bowl with a concert by 'young, modern composers' conducting atonal rubbish. Modern music as now taught sounds like cats on a fence at 2 AM. Since when did anyone boo Mozart
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe Ok, not booing as such, however he did recieve some terrible reviews: "too strongly spiced"; "impenetrable labyrinths"; "bizarre flights of the soul"; "overloaded and overstuffed".
There is a neat little article here: guardian.co.uk/music/2004/jun/04/classicalmusicandopera
Incidentally, I do agree with you - 'modern music' of the 'young kool skool' is generally terrible. However, it is worth noting that some of these dreadful works may one daybe regarded as classics!
mtheadedwally 1 year ago
"No entrepenure in his right mind would try to fill the Hollywood Bowl with a concert by 'young, modern composers' "
The public doesn't care about classical music
"Since when did anyone boo Mozart "
Obviously you're clearly uninformed. Mozart was booed as was Beethoven for their more dissonant, daring and a challenging works.
Music can't always be "pretty" and saccharine. To think so is downright insipid.
There's nothing with atonality, on the composer who speaks its language poorly.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe "Can someone explain to me in a lucid and convincing way why "young, modern, composers" are unable to write beautiful and melodic music. "
It's not that they can't, they just chose not to. There are more interesting realms of music to explore than just late romantic tonality.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@RogueRotting360 And young, modern composers will continue to explore the atonal world of flipping burgers at Jack in the Box. I invite you to review the summer programs of the Hollywood Bowl or other regional summer music scenes in SoCal. Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music, the product of the untalented as taught be bearded eggheads out of touch with reality. Beautiful music...hmm...they sneer because they can't write it themselves..
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
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@zeekwolfe "And young, modern composers will continue to explore the atonal world of flipping burgers at Jack in the Box."
Sorry, could you explain to me this piece of imagery, or are you referring to an actual piece of modern repertoire?
"Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music"
They're loss. On the whole, the public would rather listen to X Factor contestants, Miley Cyrus or Lady Gaga, over any classical opus, tonal or atonal.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe "Nope, the public doesn't want to 'explore' unpretty music"
The public would rather listen to the exalted likes of Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus or various X Factor contestants over any classical piece, tonal or atonal. Obviously you can't appreciate the beauty of ethereal atonality or 20th century expressionism. Your loss.
"the product of the untalented"
Clearly you have no clue on what talent is, if you think it's only constricted to accessible, pleasing, tonal music.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@RogueRotting360 I think you should confine yourself to dedgeridoo music...all two notes...with a joint to help you make sense. And then through the smokey haze tell your friends "...yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, this stuff is good." I'm sorry, Tops in So Cal don't understand the ethereal. The more bread we have, the more notes and melody we have in our music.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe Atonal music is 12 tone. Ever note in the chromatic scale arranged to make audience sense, and to produce clear and identifiable themes.
Seems to me like you're describing post-modern minimalism or something.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@RogueRotting360 Final word...thank you for the knowledgeable discussion of things musical and...especially...non-use of the obscene word for human sexual intercourse. What a nice surprise to find a person on YouTube who does not use the "F" word as an adjective or even a transitive verb. Take care!
zeekwolfe 1 year ago 2
@zeekwolfe You know what? I think we agree a lot more than you and I thought. The music you describe at the concert doesn't sound like my cup of tea either. Do you know the name of composer or the piece? I might check it out to see if it's as bad as you say.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe "As taught be bearded eggheads out of touch with reality."
You seem more out of touch with reality if you only can only appreciate "beautiful, melodic music." Seems more like the haughty arrogance of a musically ignorant listener, with highly circumscribed tastes.
"Beautiful music...hmm...they sneer because they can't write it themselves.. "
Oh they can all right. Take the music of atonal composer and film composer Leonard Rosenman, who wrote both atonal AND exquisite tonal music.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe
As much as Barry is a hero to me, 'modern' films and their scores now seem to demand a more subtle and less lyrical/thematic approach. Maybe this is one reason.
0FindGlory 1 year ago
@0FindGlory Modern films are aimed at teenagers. Music to them comes out of a video game or the stuff on FM radio. Get this: A movie was recently released by the name of "Twilight." I'm not sure what it's about, but I hope the owners make some money. A local 16 year old girl had deeply tatooed on her arm the word "TWILIGHT," and then waited in a long line with a new lifetime scar/mark for a soon forgettable movie. Music is now written for these children and that's why it's so bad.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe i think a lot of composers feel they have to be daring and progressive as young composers to get attention instead of just being truthful to their own intentions. And I think that idea is maybe self perpetuated? On the other hand a lot of discordant or atonal music can be great. If art makes you feel something (even anger) it can only be a good thing.
bumblebert 1 year ago
@bumblebert Thank you for your wise and point-well-taken reply. This topic interests me and your comments are a welcome relief from some of the private and highly critical e-mails I have received. But how does one apply your comments to Country Music? That genre in time past featured wordsmith lyricists and music writers of great ability. Simple and beautiful melodies are now from the "golden oldie" period, 1980's and earlier. Today? Forgettable songs by sound-alike men singers.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe if you want to hear a young modern composer who creates stunning music check out Jon Hopkins. it's electronic but my god its beautiful.
hyperballadry 1 year ago
@hyperballadry Sorry, have to disagree. Just been listening to John Hopkins. It's muzak. I have no problem with electronic music but the drum beats on almost every track just cheapen it, and make it very repetitive. John Barry never had to resort to automated drums.
JasonRB02 1 year ago
@JasonRB02 although did on living daylights
RichardpBradshawFILM 5 months ago
@zeekwolfe Hi, i am a composer of more classical style and I perform many modern composers work on a weekly basis. The musicians are by and large really pissed off with the state of the majority of modern music these days, but it's the 'in' thing, and most critics can't comprehend the music so mostly they say it is genius. It is so much easier to criticise a nice tune as being passe or plagiarism. Occasionally you get a brilliant modern composer come along but they are so few and far between.
piccoloxl1 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe As a PS I performed with John Barry conducting his music about 10 years ago. he was great. Although a lot of his music is the same dreamy style it is very successful and very descriptive of the films he wrote for. Genius!
piccoloxl1 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe It's the same reason why filmmakers can't produce a convincing action piece without frenetic editing, fast zooms and shaky-cam. The world is run by lawyers, focused on a quick buck and starving for talent.
aagjmb 1 year ago
@zeekwolfe I know this was a year ago, but will you tell me who the composer was? I'm interested in hearing him...
WanderingChild999 8 months ago
@zeekwolfe Well said! So many of today's soundtracks are just loud, generic, soulless trash!!
bagg10101 5 months ago
Was this part of the soundtrack to the 1979 Disney film "The Black Hole?"
rayssonation 2 years ago
@rayssonation No, definitely not.
walkabou5 1 year ago
this one should've been in 2001
needhate1983 2 years ago
Only John Barry could do this!
leandro00000000007 2 years ago
I get goose bumps all over the body:))
WOW
Australopiticus123 2 years ago
Beautiful. Haunting
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 2 years ago
i really cannot see how people dont find the universe and all of space as interesting as i do. listening to this song makes and watching this video really shows how amazing space really is.
nitroaztecgold 2 years ago
Have only just found out what this track is called. They've played this on BBC7 a couple of times over the last two weeks around 5am in the morning as part of Cbeebies ( ??). Thank god it was John Barry or I'd never have been able to identify it! My only lead was that it sounded like John Barry so I went to amazon to play a few clips of his albums and what do you know....the first album that comes up is the beyondness of things and track 1 is this one! Very glad as this is an amazing track.
Niftified 2 years ago
like i shared with a friend my thoughts on this piece of work - like the wind inviting the soul to dance, that transcends above time and the suffering human world. A mediative state when the soul enters into nirvana. Before entering it takes a last reluctant look at earth then enters into this universe nirvana this light which is beyond all things.
damien9060 2 years ago 5
beautiful comment damien9060
dingorex 2 years ago
@damien9060 I like your thoughts on the meditative state. I've given instructions so that after cremation my ashes will be scattered in Death Valley. My spirit can roam that wild, beautiful and desolate place until the end of time.
zeekwolfe 1 year ago 2
This blows me away every time.Nameste
smalltins 2 years ago
very nice music
vaagen58 2 years ago 2
Masterpiece!
gualty0071 2 years ago
A lovely gentle song. This is real music :)
Pulsar205 2 years ago 3
As an advocate of Gastro-astronomy, I nominate the Saturnian moon Hyperion at 1:02 as the most edible-looking object in the known universe!
alien8ted 2 years ago 2
yeah
biddyficationprocess 2 years ago
Is a soft cheesy flavour,I always thought that they might be crumbly or maybe like cinder toffee
smalltins 2 years ago
Beautiful!!
bs1935 2 years ago
very beautiful, the score seems to transcend the meaning
sfxjames 2 years ago
I had this play at my wedding ceremony while we signed the register. My marriage turned shit but still love this song so much.
vodamerlin 2 years ago
beatiful music, ideed you can recognise john barry right away, beatiful string melody with smooth brass in the backgroud.
btw i do not think of space when i hear this :p. I think of woderfull nature, fields, mountains, rivers, green ... and stuff.
thanks for posting
jonrellim 2 years ago
Bravo John Barry
Bravo dingorex for posting the tune, and the Breathtaking stills.
jarjetward 2 years ago
the whole album is beautiful.........i cry at some of it......memories!
haydn74 2 years ago
Beautiful! You can tell it's John Barry straight away, by his unique style! It's so sad that he has retired now...
RAFDanny 2 years ago
I'm not a fan of most orchestral performances, but this, I thought, was beautiful and brilliant
nicholasthetaylor 2 years ago
Back to weep at God's feet in thanks for the sheer beauty of His world
IAmIsNigh 2 years ago
know how you feel, but he wants us to dance with joy like we would with children
Pulsar205 2 years ago
This is a theme from Barry's work for Disney's "the black hole" from 1979, if i'm not mistaken - let me check if I find it on the CD somewhere...
designfriemel 2 years ago
@designfriemel No it isn't
walkabou5 1 year ago
What pictures, what music - what a combination.
viceroytennis 2 years ago
Oh my god, what is this? A piece of heaven?
leandro00000000007 2 years ago 2
No, it is a piece of earth, and this makes it even better.
Lennyfred 2 years ago
So very very beautiful...My soul feels deeply connected..Thank you for posting
cpapak57 2 years ago
una obra de arte
LINICO1985 2 years ago 2
I am spoiled by the qualtiy and sustainability of classical music.
John Barry's and Burt Bacharach's music have always been exceptionell in their musical expressions.
Their music is accompaning my life since decades. I am not getting exhausted to listen to their spirit. Is it the major 7th harmony?
They both might be environmentalists like Gustav Mahler was.
made3057 2 years ago
Sweet Lord Oh how marvelous are Your ways.
IAmIsNigh 2 years ago 3
I first heard this tune on a UTV (Ulster Television) documentary about Thomas Andrews; the designer of the Titanic in Belfast- it really fitted well. Ive just heard the name on the radio and typed it in- thanks for posting!
CULAVE 2 years ago 2
When I 1st heard this song on the radio, I missed announcer saying who/what it was but I knew it just HAD to be John Barry. The guy's an absolute genius!!
TheDon444 3 years ago
Would probably make a very good love theme for a bond flick - like the kind of shot where bond spots a love interest getting out of the water on a beach in some exotic locale.
djfinex 3 years ago 4
djfinex- I agree; I can see that
CULAVE 2 years ago 2
Well the whole cd of music from TBOT is ALL rejected scores of John Barry, 6 cues are from The Horse Whisperer. HE just uses them elsewhere, when he doesn't do rewrites.
UFOSPACE1999 3 years ago
Why the hell do they not use this as a new Bond theme, I will never know, the most beautiful track I have heard, period.
sabrefox2004 3 years ago 4
The new Bond is more a bad-ass like Connery in Dr. No. I think the 007 Theme (discontinued after Moonraker) and We Have All The Time In the World are the best. This would make a great leitmotif or love theme.
dingorex 3 years ago
the images fit perfectly.
jumesblant 3 years ago
the images may suit you...but, to me, the sound is rather nostalgic. kinda like telling a story from the past.
rudyhamzah 3 years ago 4
After listening to Holst the Planets and then on to this piece by John Barry and the video that accompanies it only makes it so much more awsome!!
jonny7england 3 years ago 2
The 2nd cue and 3rd cue from TBOT and 3rd to the last song, cant remember it. Dawn Chorus, Meadow of Delight and Sadness FIT INTO THE HORSE WHISPERER!!! PERFECT FIT. I don't know what was Redford's problem, BUT he interfered with a great composer like Barry. The part where Kristen Scott Thomas tells Redford one last ride BUT gets into her car and rides off. IS the 3rd to last song on TBOT. I truly wished Redford shut his mouth. This would of been one of Barry's best scores. NOT TO BE
UFOSPACE1999 3 years ago
Geez, what's wrong with directors! Barry is one of the top composers around. You'd think with his track record filmmakers would have enough sense to trust him to create something truly brilliant. Thanks for posting, Dingorex!
vaxxon1 3 years ago
The Back Story of TBOT. First off 5 to 6 cues of TBOT is really from the REJECTED score to The Horse Whisperer. Robert Redford who was the director of The Horse Whisperer hired John Barry to compose the score. He did, but Redford let got Barry after Barry told Redford HE WOULD NOT REWRITE any of the music. So da lame ass Redford got rid of Barry and hired Thomas Newman to come in. So a year later Barry comes out with TBOT and Dawn Chorus, Meadow of Delight and Sadness, The Main Theme to TBOT...
UFOSPACE1999 3 years ago
Very interesting info UFOSPACE1999. Thanks for that. Here all this time I thought 'the beyondness of things' was meant to be simply an instrumental release. I'm glad it was not associated with the 'horse whisperer' as 'Beyondness' would never have been released.
NowPleaseReadThis 3 years ago
Eerily beautiful, both in images and music...
UnsilentE 3 years ago
Sublime music to accompany awesome pictures.
Charles E.
charlesemami 3 years ago
i have "eternal echoes", the following album on this one. time to get "beyondness" i guess...
Lennyfred 3 years ago
Yes, beautiful music...compliments the images perfectly... this is a place we should all throw our worries to from time to time(and allow it take care of us all more often)...The Universe...dedicated to the man I feel much love for too...Thanks dingorex..
FRPeony 4 years ago
profound images to match profound music,thanks dingorex.
permaveg 4 years ago
Actually, the album is called 'The Beyondness Of Things.' A superb representation though. Thanks.
schlafendwolf 4 years ago
Thx
dingorex 4 years ago